Re: GESO - My Svalbard images - THE PUN THREAD

[AlunFoto]

2011/3/30 mike wilson :
 But you have the 645D - almost the equivalent of a full frame
 Canon in
 bear dissuasion parameters. 8-)
>>> On the other hand, a bear will try much harder to get a 645D from you
>>> than a full-frame Canon!
>> Whatever you say, honey.
> The only thing that'll scare 'em off might be Dave Brooks' snoring
 You shouldn't panda to him.
>>> He's a photographer, so it would be just another Kodiak momennt
>> This thread gives one paws
> Jostein's bear pictures are hauntingly beautiful but he has a way to go
> before he reaches the brutal realism of Claude Balls.

That's tricky in all the clothes you have to wear for the outdoors.
Better to seal it up, really.


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Re: GESO - My Svalbard images - THE PUN THREAD

[AlunFoto]

2011/3/30 Larry Colen :
> But you have the 645D - almost the equivalent of a full frame
> Canon in
> bear dissuasion parameters. 8-)
 On the other hand, a bear will try much harder to get a 645D from you
 than a full-frame Canon!
>>> Whatever you say, honey.
>> The only thing that'll scare 'em off might be Dave Brooks' snoring
> You shouldn't panda to him.
 He's a photographer, so it would be just another Kodiak momennt
>>> This thread gives one paws
>> Jostein's bear pictures are hauntingly beautiful but he has a way to go 
>> before he reaches the brutal realism of Claude Balls.
> Yes, there's a vas deferns between their work.

One can hardly put that to testes, though.

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Re: As big as a submarine

[Cotty]

On 30/3/11, Collin Brendemuehl, discombobulated, unleashed:



At that price there's a small team secreted inside who pop out and help
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PESO - Roedeer

[AlunFoto]

Observed this guy about 150 m from my house this morning:
http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/03/roedeer.html



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Re: As big as a submarine

[eckinator]

Actually the case weighs 1.5 times more than the lens. It is a run of
the mill Otterbox type. There were two of these lenses in the bay from
an official sigma outlet after photokina, one Canon, one Nikon. they
went for 7K€ each compared to a list price of 20. seems demand or
appreciation isnt that huge. not surprisingly so, seeing this is a
specialist lens such as for vehicle mounted wildlife shooting etc.

2011/3/30 Jeffery Johnson :
> Yeah and so is that price and for that price wonder if they have someone
> that comes along with it to carrying for you.
>
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> Attack or missile?   Damn that's big. They need to attach it to a Olympus
> Pen with an adapter for maximum contrast.
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New Pentax System...April fools'?

[Jaume Lahuerta]

http://k-rumors.com/first-pictures-of-the-pentax-nc-1-system/


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OT: Old printer in new computer

[Jaume Lahuerta]

Hi,

My uncle has bought a new desktop replacing a +10 yers old one. The old 
computer 
came bundled with a printer (HP 720c) and a scanner.
The scanner has USB connection but the printer has still only parallel port.

My question: is it possible to connect the printer to the new desktop with only 
USB ports? It seems that there are drivers for Windows 7 but I am not sure 
about 
parallel to USB converters...does this exist and work with not too much hassle? 
Any experiences?

Printers are cheap these days but I hate having to buy new things when the old 
ones are still capable to do the job...

Thanks,
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Re: OT: Old printer in new computer

[David Parsons]

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=471&name=USB%20Parallel%20Adapter

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Jaume Lahuerta  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My uncle has bought a new desktop replacing a +10 yers old one. The old 
> computer
> came bundled with a printer (HP 720c) and a scanner.
> The scanner has USB connection but the printer has still only parallel port.
>
> My question: is it possible to connect the printer to the new desktop with 
> only
> USB ports? It seems that there are drivers for Windows 7 but I am not sure 
> about
> parallel to USB converters...does this exist and work with not too much 
> hassle?
> Any experiences?
>
> Printers are cheap these days but I hate having to buy new things when the old
> ones are still capable to do the job...
>
> Thanks,
> Jaume
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a fat enablement

[Krisjanis Linkevics]

This one K-5, the lucky guy, has fifteen wives. Some are sexy silver-bodied 
limiteds, others are nice compact black beauties. And then there is the EX 
bunch.. and this one is the fattest of them all. I asked him why he wanted 
another one.. he said that sure, one could live with just the fourteen he had 
and granted, the newest one was fat and stumpy.. but dude, she can cook like no 
other!

Enter wife 15 looking like a can of tomatoes or green peas.. she has a gravity 
of her own. [And then..] and then she does the thing that only she can do. And 
I instantly know, this K-5 had his reasons.

http://foto.ri-ki.lv/details.php?image_id=35

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Re: GESO - My Svalbard images - THE PUN THREAD

[Steven Desjardins]

Oh, pooh.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:12 AM, AlunFoto  wrote:
> 2011/3/30 Larry Colen :
>> But you have the 645D - almost the equivalent of a full frame
>> Canon in
>> bear dissuasion parameters. 8-)
> On the other hand, a bear will try much harder to get a 645D from you
> than a full-frame Canon!
 Whatever you say, honey.
>>> The only thing that'll scare 'em off might be Dave Brooks' snoring
>> You shouldn't panda to him.
> He's a photographer, so it would be just another Kodiak momennt
 This thread gives one paws
>>> Jostein's bear pictures are hauntingly beautiful but he has a way to go 
>>> before he reaches the brutal realism of Claude Balls.
>> Yes, there's a vas deferns between their work.
>
> One can hardly put that to testes, though.
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RE: a fat enablement

[Krisjanis Linkevics]

She actually remarked that her sister 12-24 was even fatter and heavier and got 
genuinely upset at the "can of tomatoes" remark, asked if I had ever seen a tin 
can with such a beautiful bulbous glass top. I had to reassure her that K-5 
would never mount a tin can unless she had some extremely nice features - and 
that I had never seen one that would even come close.

kris 

P.S. Yes I have too much work to do and am looking for distractions.. PDML is 
letting me down today (this far). Procrastination ftw.

> This one K-5, the lucky guy, has fifteen wives. Some are sexy silver-
> bodied limiteds, others are nice compact black beauties. And then there
> is the EX bunch.. and this one is the fattest of them all. I asked him
> why he wanted another one.. he said that sure, one could live with just
> the fourteen he had and granted, the newest one was fat and stumpy..
> but dude, she can cook like no other!
> 
> Enter wife 15 looking like a can of tomatoes or green peas.. she has a
> gravity of her own. [And then..] and then she does the thing that only
> she can do. And I instantly know, this K-5 had his reasons.
> 
> http://foto.ri-ki.lv/details.php?image_id=35
> 
> kris

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Re: New Pentax System...April fools'?

[eckinator]

I think April fool's, too. That's not an EVIL/MILC but an
interchangeable lens P&S. Why would anyone in their right mind spend
money for a system camera where sensor IQ is the limiting factor?

2011/3/30 Jaume Lahuerta :
> http://k-rumors.com/first-pictures-of-the-pentax-nc-1-system/
>
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Re: New Pentax System...April fools'?

[Thibouille]

For the same reason people think m43 is too big (at least in current
incarnations).
But, as you point it out, it brings problems inherent to sensor size
(noise and DOF).
It may get a market though. I know I wish my LX3 could change lens.
Even with its small sensor (bigger than the 1/2.33 chosen for NC-1 though).

As long as Pentax does indeed introduce a second system with APS
sensor I don't care much except that this NC-1 is.. UGLY.
'nuff said ;)

2011/3/30 eckinator :
> I think April fool's, too. That's not an EVIL/MILC but an
> interchangeable lens P&S. Why would anyone in their right mind spend
> money for a system camera where sensor IQ is the limiting factor?
>
> 2011/3/30 Jaume Lahuerta :
>> http://k-rumors.com/first-pictures-of-the-pentax-nc-1-system/
>>
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Re: GESO: I visited the Miniaturwunderland in Hamburg

[Thomas Bohn]

2011/3/29 Joseph McAllister :

> Man, if you could spend a day in there with a LensBaby, you could get some 
> good stuff that looked like it was real!

Yeah, but I just have my 35 mm lens, so I would like to see those. But
the MiWuLa is a very photographers-friendly place. They even provide a
station for charging batteries.

They know that those photographs are advertising for free.

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Re: Welcome back Boris

[Boris Liberman]

On 3/29/2011 4:10 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:


Welcome back Boris. Good to hear that you are feeling secure. Also
nice to hear once again of Galia's progress in photography. You have
proved to be an excellent mentor.

Paul


Thanks, Paul! I really appreciate your kind words on and off list.

Boris

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Re: Being back

[Boris Liberman]

On 3/29/2011 9:02 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:

Welcome Back, Boris :)

Hope we can take a glimpse at a few shots of her; not that we disregard yours ;)

Bulent
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Thanks, Bulent.

I posted a link some time ago to Top 12 of 2010. These are by Galia:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157625821103004/

Some of them are in the book. I may need a bit of time, but hopefully 
I'd get around to posting a set of 25 photos from the book on Flickr.


Boris


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Re: Being back

[Boris Liberman]

On 3/29/2011 6:30 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

We're all glad to have you back, and we agree that Galia has developed
into a wonderful photographer!

Dan


As long as she does not decide to compete with me directly I am fine 
with that assessment.


Boris (who still can not use smileys)

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Re: APOD: Today's Astronomy Picture of the Day

[Bob Sullivan]

John,
I'm disappointed too.  Heinlein, Asimov and Clarke really
underestimated the energy/fuel costs to get us into space.  Perhaps
the latest private efforts will have better results.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:24 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> Still, 50 years after the Wright Brothers commercial aviation had come a lot
> farther than commercial spaceflight has 50 years after Gagarin.
>
> Having grown up on Heinlein, Asimov and Clarke, I'm pretty disappointed by
> our progress (or more like lack of).
>
> From: Walter Hamler
>
>> Thanks, Bob. I find it amazing that within my lifetime I have seen us
>> go from barely flying jets and knowing nothing about the solar system
>> other than rudimentary knowledge, to cataloging thousands of planets
>> around other stars in our galactic neighborhood. Truly exciting times
>> for us all!
>>
>> Walt
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Bob Sullivan 
>> wrote:

 Walt, Thanks for the reference. In '67 a close friend was
 graduating from MIT in Physics, and heading to grad school in
 astronomy at CalTech. ?We talked about other life, and he point
 out how inevitable it was given the size of the universe. This
 composite photo helps prove the proposition. Regards, ?Bob S.

 On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Walter Hamler
  wrote:
>>
>> http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
>>
>>
>> This is one to blow your mind. Be sure to click on the links
>> that get you to the high res version so you can see all the
>> smaller planets (like Earth!). If you ever wondered "are we
>> alone in the Universe?", this pic goes a long way toward a
>> possible answer.
>>
>> Walt
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Re: PESO - Roedeer

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nice image.  The deer is quite horny already, and in full velvet.

Dan

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> Observed this guy about 150 m from my house this morning:
> http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/03/roedeer.html
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Re: PESO Mr & Ms Finch

[Ann Sanfedele]

Thanks, Alastair!
ann

Alastair Robertson wrote:


oh it's Mr Chaffinch and Mrs something else - may well be a chiffchaff
as Toine suggests

Alastair

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
 


Toine wrote:

   


Yes very nice. Warm and very dry. Amazing to see all those snow pictures.

Actually mrs Finch isn't who I think she was. In real live it's a
Tjiftjaf.In the UK Chiffchaff.
 


ah  - well I didn't recognize that partciular male finch either I took
your word for it about mrs. finch being his lady.
Who is Mr Finch?
ann
   


I don't think it's available in the US.

On 28 March 2011 22:35, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

 


Nice weather?!  - brave of you to post here now :-)

I like Mrs Finch just as she is... would like to see that very sharp shot
of
Mr Finch cropped to a non-square.

ann


Toine wrote:


   


A sunny sunday and nice weather. A400/5.6 playtime:

http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/176

Toine



 


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Re: PESO - Roedeer

[Ann Sanfedele]

aw!
ann

AlunFoto wrote:


Observed this guy about 150 m from my house this morning:
http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/03/roedeer.html



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Re: PESO - Roedeer

[David J Brooks]

Nice lighting and detail

Dave

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> http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/03/roedeer.html
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Re: GESO: I visited the Miniaturwunderland in Hamburg

[David J Brooks]

I like the last shot of the steam shovel

Dave

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Thomas Bohn  wrote:
> I visited the Miniaturwunderland (MiWuLa) in Hamburg and brought some
> photos home:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/thbohn/BesuchImMiWuLaMarz2011
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> Feedback is always welcome.
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Re: As big as a submarine

[David J Brooks]

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Jeffery Johnson
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> I wonder how good this would be taking it out for nature captures.

At least it comes with a handy handle for long walks.

Dave
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/551435-REG/Sigma_597101_200_500mm_f_2_
> 8_EX_DG.html
>
> And a similar color, too.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Collin Brendemuehl
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Re: As big as a submarine

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On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Cotty  wrote:
> On 30/3/11, Collin Brendemuehl, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>  Sigma_597101_200_500mm_f_2_8_EX_DG.html>
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> At that price there's a small team secreted inside who pop out and help
> hold it when you forget your tripod.

That explains why we have not seen Cesar for a while then

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Re: PESO - Along the Seine

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He's ignoring you.

Dave

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> One of the many characterful merchants along the Seine in Paris:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12868898
>
> (K7, FA 24-90)
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> Rick
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Re: Peso: watch the birdies

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On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
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> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Random-stuff/2607384_N3Nso/1/1233417907_UNjpX/Medium

PDML head office.???

>
> from a Kodachrome slide - shot in 1988.   The slide looks really sharp with
> a loupe but my scan isn't really very good.

Scan it with the loupe then:-)

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Re: OT: Old printer in new computer

[Jaume Lahuerta]

- Mensaje original 

> De: David Parsons 
uter
> 
>http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=471&name=USB%20Parallel%20Adapter
>r
> 
> On  Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Jaume Lahuerta  wrote:
> >  Hi,
> >
> > My uncle has bought a new desktop replacing a +10 yers old  one. The old 
>computer
> > came bundled with a printer (HP 720c) and a  scanner.
> > The scanner has USB connection but the printer has still only  parallel 
port.
> >
> > My question: is it possible to connect the  printer to the new desktop with 
>only
> > USB ports? It seems that there are  drivers for Windows 7 but I am not sure 
>about
> > parallel to USB  converters...does this exist and work with not too much 
>hassle?
> > Any  experiences?
> >
> > Printers are cheap these days but I hate having to  buy new things when the 
>old
> > ones are still capable to do the  job...
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jaume
> >
> >



Thanks David.

I had already seen these converters, but for some reason (probably  something I 
read) it didn't seem as easy as plug and play. I just wanted  to know if 
someone 
had experience connecting a parallel printer to a  modern computer before 
investing on the cable and ink for the old  printer. 


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Re: Peso: watch the birdies

[Ann Sanfedele]

David J Brooks wrote:


On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
 


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Random-stuff/2607384_N3Nso/1/1233417907_UNjpX/Medium
   



PDML head office.???


yes!


from a Kodachrome slide - shot in 1988.   The slide looks really sharp with
a loupe but my scan isn't really very good.
   



Scan it with the loupe then:-)

Dave
 


Now there's an idea.. otoh  - it may just be my old eyes again

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Re: Being back

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On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Hello there.
>
> It seems that the hostilities have paused for the time being. I am pretty
> much back to my normal mode of functioning.
>
> I sincerely appreciate everyone's comments and concerns expressed on and off
> the list which in fact quite amazes me - to know that so many people do
> care.
>
> Again, in order to negate even the most remote possibility of the flame, I
> am asking to please leave this message unanswered or at least not answered
> in a way that could provoke the other person to respond in tone.
>
> As a matter of on-topic point, I should say that this weekend Galia and I
> spent about an hour choosing and polishing her best photos over past 3 years
> (since she was 6 and shooting with Optio W30). All together 25 photos were
> chosen, a JAlbum book ordered and now we're anticipating its arrival. In my
> somewhat biased view, Galia is making steady progress in photography as well
> as in her other activities.
>
> Thanks again for your kind words!

Well, welcome back, Boris.  Glad to hear that all of you are safe.

I must admit, I've not been on-list much over the last week, and I
didn't see your initial post WRT the conflict and how it affected your
family - for that reason I'm not sending my best wishes until now.

I bet Galia's JAlbum will be stunning - her work is very strong for a
photographer of any age.

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Re: PESO Mr & Ms Finch

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On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Toine  wrote:
> A sunny sunday and nice weather. A400/5.6 playtime:
>
> http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/176

The first one really appeals to me - love that bright blue sky, and
the bird's posing quite beautifully.

The second is too cluttered and busy for me, but is certainly a good
shot of the bird in and of itself.

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Re: Peso: watch the birdies

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On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Random-stuff/2607384_N3Nso/1/1233417907_UNjpX/Medium
>
> from a Kodachrome slide - shot in 1988.   The slide looks really sharp with
> a loupe but my scan isn't really very good.
>

Love it!!

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Re: PESO - The Pedestrian

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> I like it.  You got the pedestrian at the perfect point in his stride, and 
> the composition is very effective with the passenger on the right.
>
> If it was Philadelphia with that much snow, the pedestrian would have been 
> moving faster than the tram.  How about in Toronto?

In Toronto, the streetcars are the most reliable form of
transportation in the snow - except that it's difficult for them to
get around accidents and stuck cars due to being on tracks.  But as
far as movement through snow itself, they're great!

Glad you liked it.

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Re: PESO - The Pedestrian

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On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Christine  Aguila
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> Very cool, Frank!  Cheers, Christine

Thanks, Christine, and thanks to everyone else who looked and commented.

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Re: GFM

[frank theriault]

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Scott Loveless  wrote:
> Anyone going this year?

Not me.  Wish I could, but I can't see my ongoing money issues
suddenly dissolving.

:-(

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Re: PESO - Along the Seine

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On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> One of the many characterful merchants along the Seine in Paris:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12868898
>
> (K7, FA 24-90)

Terrific shot!

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Re: PESO - Along the Seine

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On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:57 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> He's ignoring you.

He's French.  He's ignoring everybody.

;-)

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Re: PESO - Roedeer

[frank theriault]

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 4:38 AM, AlunFoto  wrote:
> Observed this guy about 150 m from my house this morning:
> http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2011/03/roedeer.html

That's just lovely, Jostein.

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Re: GESO: I visited the Miniaturwunderland in Hamburg

[frank theriault]

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Thomas Bohn  wrote:
> I visited the Miniaturwunderland (MiWuLa) in Hamburg and brought some
> photos home:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/thbohn/BesuchImMiWuLaMarz2011
>
> Feedback is always welcome.

I could never figure out the allure of these miniature village things.
 To see the end result of years of OCD-fueled single-mindedness?

Okay, so they're pretty cool, and I have to admit, it's amazing what they do.

But I can't help asking myself:  Why?

;-)

Good pix of the place, though.

;-)

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Re: OT: Friends in high places

[frank theriault]

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Cotty  wrote:

> I just shown them my reservation in Hell!

I'm sure that's where I'll end up, which is just as well.  All my
friends will be there...

;-)

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Re: GESO - My Svalbard images

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On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:57 AM, AlunFoto  wrote:
> Gathered them here instead of posting them piecemeal:
> http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=26
>
> Jostein


http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?album=26&pos=21#nav_pic

Looks like the drive-through at the Tim Horton's in Moosonee, Ontario.

;-)

Seriously, terrific gallery of photos, Jostein.

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Re: PESO - Balconies

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On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> Another from Paris.  I love the combination of stone facades, wrought iron 
> balconies, and flowers.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12868902&size=lg
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> (K7, DA 50-200)

Beautiful!

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Re: New Pentax System...April fools'?

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This system has been rumored for a while, so it may not be a 4/1 one.  ;-)

http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/pentax-mirrorless-system-with-ultratiny-sensor-5x/

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Thibouille  wrote:
> For the same reason people think m43 is too big (at least in current
> incarnations).
> But, as you point it out, it brings problems inherent to sensor size
> (noise and DOF).
> It may get a market though. I know I wish my LX3 could change lens.
> Even with its small sensor (bigger than the 1/2.33 chosen for NC-1 though).
>
> As long as Pentax does indeed introduce a second system with APS
> sensor I don't care much except that this NC-1 is.. UGLY.
> 'nuff said ;)
>
> 2011/3/30 eckinator :
>> I think April fool's, too. That's not an EVIL/MILC but an
>> interchangeable lens P&S. Why would anyone in their right mind spend
>> money for a system camera where sensor IQ is the limiting factor?
>>
>> 2011/3/30 Jaume Lahuerta :
>>> http://k-rumors.com/first-pictures-of-the-pentax-nc-1-system/
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Re: Being back

[Steven Desjardins]

Some day I can say, "I knew of Galia Liberman when she was little and
hadn't yet won the Pulitzer . . ."

(Welcome back, BTW)

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:28 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
>> Hello there.
>>
>> It seems that the hostilities have paused for the time being. I am pretty
>> much back to my normal mode of functioning.
>>
>> I sincerely appreciate everyone's comments and concerns expressed on and off
>> the list which in fact quite amazes me - to know that so many people do
>> care.
>>
>> Again, in order to negate even the most remote possibility of the flame, I
>> am asking to please leave this message unanswered or at least not answered
>> in a way that could provoke the other person to respond in tone.
>>
>> As a matter of on-topic point, I should say that this weekend Galia and I
>> spent about an hour choosing and polishing her best photos over past 3 years
>> (since she was 6 and shooting with Optio W30). All together 25 photos were
>> chosen, a JAlbum book ordered and now we're anticipating its arrival. In my
>> somewhat biased view, Galia is making steady progress in photography as well
>> as in her other activities.
>>
>> Thanks again for your kind words!
>
> Well, welcome back, Boris.  Glad to hear that all of you are safe.
>
> I must admit, I've not been on-list much over the last week, and I
> didn't see your initial post WRT the conflict and how it affected your
> family - for that reason I'm not sending my best wishes until now.
>
> I bet Galia's JAlbum will be stunning - her work is very strong for a
> photographer of any age.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: New Pentax System...April fools'?

[Steven Desjardins]

Pentax is also supposed to be working on a bigger (m43 or APS-C) Milc.
 However, I suspect that Hoya is a more clever company and sees a
profit from a retro system like this, especially in the Japanese
market.  After all, it will be really small and in the high end P&S
market it is a nice little camera.  Of course, they also have to price
it like a high end P&S.  More likely to sell accessories, e.g.,
lenses, then you would for a P&S,however.  I wonder if they will make
an adapter for old Pentax glass?


On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> This system has been rumored for a while, so it may not be a 4/1 one.  ;-)
>
> http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/pentax-mirrorless-system-with-ultratiny-sensor-5x/
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 8:24 AM, Thibouille  wrote:
>> For the same reason people think m43 is too big (at least in current
>> incarnations).
>> But, as you point it out, it brings problems inherent to sensor size
>> (noise and DOF).
>> It may get a market though. I know I wish my LX3 could change lens.
>> Even with its small sensor (bigger than the 1/2.33 chosen for NC-1 though).
>>
>> As long as Pentax does indeed introduce a second system with APS
>> sensor I don't care much except that this NC-1 is.. UGLY.
>> 'nuff said ;)
>>
>> 2011/3/30 eckinator :
>>> I think April fool's, too. That's not an EVIL/MILC but an
>>> interchangeable lens P&S. Why would anyone in their right mind spend
>>> money for a system camera where sensor IQ is the limiting factor?
>>>
>>> 2011/3/30 Jaume Lahuerta :
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Re: GESO: I visited the Miniaturwunderland in Hamburg

[Bob Sullivan]

Frank,
Did you never make models as a little boy?
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:03 AM, frank theriault
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> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Thomas Bohn  wrote:
>> I visited the Miniaturwunderland (MiWuLa) in Hamburg and brought some
>> photos home:
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/thbohn/BesuchImMiWuLaMarz2011
>>
>> Feedback is always welcome.
>
> I could never figure out the allure of these miniature village things.
>  To see the end result of years of OCD-fueled single-mindedness?
>
> Okay, so they're pretty cool, and I have to admit, it's amazing what they do.
>
> But I can't help asking myself:  Why?
>
> ;-)
>
> Good pix of the place, though.
>
> ;-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: New Pentax System...April fools'?

[Tim Bray]

Well, the sensor IQ on my little Canon S90 is astounding given how
small it is.  Something that small that could be both a pocket cam
and, when you need it, take a telephoto or F1.4 or whatever, would be
a compelling package. I guess you'd need a k-adapter, although the
thought of one of my heavy chunks of k-glass stuck on the front of the
teeny little Canon feels sort of perverted. -T

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 5:10 AM, eckinator  wrote:
> I think April fool's, too. That's not an EVIL/MILC but an
> interchangeable lens P&S. Why would anyone in their right mind spend
> money for a system camera where sensor IQ is the limiting factor?
>
> 2011/3/30 Jaume Lahuerta :
>> http://k-rumors.com/first-pictures-of-the-pentax-nc-1-system/
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Re: GESO: I visited the Miniaturwunderland in Hamburg

[Daniel J. Matyola]

"If you build it, they will come."

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On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:03 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:

> Okay, so they're pretty cool, and I have to admit, it's amazing what they do.
>
> But I can't help asking myself:  Why?

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Re: a fat enablement

[Tim Bray]

Not that I want to get all intimately pedantic, isn't the camera body
more like a matriarch in a polyandrous society with a bunch of
husbands who, um, take their occasional turns at the, um, mount?  -T

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics
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> limiteds, others are nice compact black beauties. And then there is the EX 
> bunch.. and this one is the fattest of them all. I asked him why he wanted 
> another one.. he said that sure, one could live with just the fourteen he had 
> and granted, the newest one was fat and stumpy.. but dude, she can cook like 
> no other!
>
> Enter wife 15 looking like a can of tomatoes or green peas.. she has a 
> gravity of her own. [And then..] and then she does the thing that only she 
> can do. And I instantly know, this K-5 had his reasons.
>
> http://foto.ri-ki.lv/details.php?image_id=35
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Re: New Pentax System...April fools'?

[John Francis]

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 02:10:18PM +0200, eckinator wrote:
> I think April fool's, too. That's not an EVIL/MILC but an
> interchangeable lens P&S. Why would anyone in their right mind spend
> money for a system camera where sensor IQ is the limiting factor?

Name one system where sensor IQ is not the limiting factor.

With the exception of Jens, *everyone* on this list has chosen
a system camera (often more than one) because the convenience
of a smaller form factor outweighs the loss of image quality.

A K-5 may be 'good enough' for most people (for that matter,
a *ist-D is still good enough for a lot of purposes), but the
image quality still enters into the equation.


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Re: OT: Friends in high places

[Darren Addy]

Burns me up.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:08 AM, frank theriault
>  wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Cotty  wrote:
>>
>>> I just shown them my reservation in Hell!
>>
>> I'm sure that's where I'll end up, which is just as well.  All my
>> friends will be there...
>
> True of ALL of us, since the original Hebrew and Greek words (Sheol
> and Hades) that are often translated "hell" are also translated
> "grave" or "pit" (often by the same translations in other verses)
> simply meant the common grave of all mankind (state of death).
> However, that benign understanding of the word wasn't loaded with as
> much potential for profit for the Church as was the concept that Dante
> (a comedic playwrite) popularized. That idea really caught fire.
>

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Re: OT: Friends in high places

[Darren Addy]

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:08 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Cotty  wrote:
>
>> I just shown them my reservation in Hell!
>
> I'm sure that's where I'll end up, which is just as well.  All my
> friends will be there...

True of ALL of us, since the original Hebrew and Greek words (Sheol
and Hades) that are often translated "hell" are also translated
"grave" or "pit" (often by the same translations in other verses)
simply meant the common grave of all mankind (state of death).
However, that benign understanding of the word wasn't loaded with as
much potential for profit for the Church as was the concept that Dante
(a comedic playwrite) popularized. That idea really caught fire.

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Re: New Pentax System...April fools'?

[mike wilson]

On 30/03/2011 14:10, eckinator wrote:

I think April fool's, too. That's not an EVIL/MILC but an
interchangeable lens P&S. Why would anyone in their right mind spend
money for a system camera where sensor IQ is the limiting factor?

2011/3/30 Jaume Lahuerta:

http://k-rumors.com/first-pictures-of-the-pentax-nc-1-system/


Didn't you just describe a large portion of the dslr world?

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Re: New Pentax System...April fools'?

[mike wilson]

On 30/03/2011 14:10, eckinator wrote:

I think April fool's, too. That's not an EVIL/MILC but an
interchangeable lens P&S. Why would anyone in their right mind spend
money for a system camera where sensor IQ is the limiting factor?

2011/3/30 Jaume Lahuerta:

http://k-rumors.com/first-pictures-of-the-pentax-nc-1-system/



And.. APS.

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Re: a fat enablement

[William Robb]

On 30/03/2011 10:30 AM, Tim Bray wrote:

Not that I want to get all intimately pedantic, isn't the camera body
more like a matriarch in a polyandrous society with a bunch of
husbands who, um, take their occasional turns at the, um, mount?  -T



Are we about to have a Sermon on the Mount?

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Re: APOD: Today's Astronomy Picture of the Day

[Darren Addy]

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Walter Hamler  wrote:
> I find it amazing that within my lifetime I have seen us
> go from barely flying jets and knowing nothing about the solar system
> other than rudimentary knowledge, to cataloging thousands of planets
> around other stars in our galactic neighborhood.

Very true. My great-grandfather's and grandfather's (now 97)
generations were perhaps the greatest changes in a single lifetime.
They went from an age when (from time immemorial) farmers broke ground
with oxen or horses to the mechanical age to landing a man on the moon
(in my great-grandfather's case). That is an incredible explosion of
technology. If you were graphing it it would be astounding how much it
has spiked.

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Re: GESO: I visited the Miniaturwunderland in Hamburg

[Ken Waller]

But I can't help asking myself:  Why?


I ask myself the same thing about some genres of photography.

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- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" 

Subject: Re: GESO: I visited the Miniaturwunderland in Hamburg


On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Thomas Bohn  wrote:

I visited the Miniaturwunderland (MiWuLa) in Hamburg and brought some
photos home:

http://picasaweb.google.com/thbohn/BesuchImMiWuLaMarz2011

Feedback is always welcome.


I could never figure out the allure of these miniature village things.
To see the end result of years of OCD-fueled single-mindedness?

Okay, so they're pretty cool, and I have to admit, it's amazing what they 
do.


But I can't help asking myself:  Why?

;-)

Good pix of the place, though.

;-)

cheers,
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Re: GESO - My Svalbard images

[Ken Waller]

Looks like the drive-through at the Tim Horton's in Moosonee, Ontario.


Nah. Not enough snow machines.

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- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" 

Subject: Re: GESO - My Svalbard images


On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:57 AM, AlunFoto  wrote:

Gathered them here instead of posting them piecemeal:
http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=26

Jostein



http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/displayimage.php?album=26&pos=21#nav_pic

Looks like the drive-through at the Tim Horton's in Moosonee, Ontario.

;-)

Seriously, terrific gallery of photos, Jostein.

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Re: New Pentax System...April fools'?

[Steven Desjardins]

What's funny is that even though we all know the "cropping factor" is
what gives "equivalent focal length", you have still jammed a whole
bunch of pixels into a tiny area.  If you have decent light, its like
a tiny center crop of a stupidly high MP FF sensor, about 400 MP using
rough numbers.  If you stick any M or K 50 on that thing with an
adapter, you have a 280 (35 equivalent lens).  Which is exactly how
Pentax will sell it.   Maybe they're hoping this will be like the I-10
in terms of buzz but with better IQ.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:59 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
> On 30/03/2011 14:10, eckinator wrote:
>>
>> I think April fool's, too. That's not an EVIL/MILC but an
>> interchangeable lens P&S. Why would anyone in their right mind spend
>> money for a system camera where sensor IQ is the limiting factor?
>>
>> 2011/3/30 Jaume Lahuerta:
>>>
>>> http://k-rumors.com/first-pictures-of-the-pentax-nc-1-system/
>
>
> And.. APS.
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Re: APOD: Today's Astronomy Picture of the Day

[John Francis]

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:13:28PM -0500, Darren Addy wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Walter Hamler  wrote:
> >?I find it amazing that within my lifetime I have seen us
> > go from barely flying jets and knowing nothing about the solar system
> > other than rudimentary knowledge, to cataloging thousands of planets
> > around other stars in our galactic neighborhood.
> 
> Very true. My great-grandfather's and grandfather's (now 97)
> generations were perhaps the greatest changes in a single lifetime.
> They went from an age when (from time immemorial) farmers broke ground
> with oxen or horses to the mechanical age to landing a man on the moon
> (in my great-grandfather's case). That is an incredible explosion of
> technology. If you were graphing it it would be astounding how much it
> has spiked.

That's the nature of exponential growth.

James Burke had a popular TV series called "The Day the Universe Changed"
showing how some technologies totally disrupted the society of their time.

Apart from the change we see today (based on the internal combustion engine
at the start of the century, and computers about half as long ago), there
is also the advance in medical technology - spare part surgery is so common
that people rarely even think about it.  And radio, and the atom bomb, and ...

But there was just as much of an upheaval two centuries earlier, with the
coming of the industrial age, and the move from the country to cities.

Before that there was Gutenberg, who created the first information age.
And so backwards through the ages to the introduction of various metals,
agriculture, timekeeping, navigation, etc.

I'm sure every age feels that theirs is the culmination of human advancement.
I just wonder what our grandchildren (if we have any) will consider to be the
defining technology of their time. It's probably surfaced by now, but hasn't
yet progressed much beyond the laboratory.





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Re: Photo Annual 2011: Uploaded

[Miserere]

What Mark is too humble to add is this: The PDML 2011 looks even
better than the 2010 edition. Mark did a great job with the design and
has set himself up for massive failure with PDML 2012, as I don't see
how he could possibly outdo himself once more  :-)


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> I've just uploaded the prototype (beta) version of the 2011 book. I
> have ordered a copy from Blurb and should have it within two weeks.
>
> If all goes well I'll have only minor corrections/adjustments to make
> and should be able to upload the final version shortly thereafter.
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Re: a fat enablement

[Steven Desjardins]

Hold on guys.  Let me go make some popcorn.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:09 PM, William Robb
 wrote:
> On 30/03/2011 10:30 AM, Tim Bray wrote:
>>
>> Not that I want to get all intimately pedantic, isn't the camera body
>> more like a matriarch in a polyandrous society with a bunch of
>> husbands who, um, take their occasional turns at the, um, mount?  -T
>>
>
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Re: New Pentax System...April fools'?

[Miserere]

I just received an e-mail from Pentax HQ and they told me they're
still working on what "NC" will stand for. These are some of the
options they have in mind:

No Comment
Niche Camera
Not Crap
Nifty Compact
Nadie Compra (for the Spanish-speaking market)
Nice Compromise
Never Crop
Need Cash

I think they'll have it figured out by April 1st.


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On 30 March 2011 07:07, Jaume Lahuerta  wrote:
> http://k-rumors.com/first-pictures-of-the-pentax-nc-1-system/
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RE: New Pentax System...April fools'?

[Bob W]

> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Jaume Lahuerta


> 
> http://k-rumors.com/first-pictures-of-the-pentax-nc-1-system/
> 

pitched squarely at the pimp market.

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Re: APOD: Today's Astronomy Picture of the Day

[Miserere]

For those not reading this message on the day it was written, the link
to the image that blew Walter's mind is this one:

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap110329.html

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On 29 March 2011 15:38, Walter Hamler  wrote:
> http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
>
>
> This is one to blow your mind. Be sure to click on the links that get
> you to the high res version so you can see all the smaller planets
> (like Earth!).
> If you ever wondered "are we alone in the Universe?", this pic goes a
> long way toward a possible answer.
>
> Walt
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RE: a fat enablement

[Bob W]

> This one K-5, the lucky guy, has fifteen wives. Some are sexy silver-
> bodied limiteds, others are nice compact black beauties. And then there
> is the EX bunch.. and this one is the fattest of them all. I asked him
> why he wanted another one.. he said that sure, one could live with just
> the fourteen he had and granted, the newest one was fat and stumpy..
> but dude, she can cook like no other!
> 
> Enter wife 15 looking like a can of tomatoes or green peas.. she has a
> gravity of her own. [And then..] and then she does the thing that only
> she can do. And I instantly know, this K-5 had his reasons.
> 
> http://foto.ri-ki.lv/details.php?image_id=35
> 
> kris

have you been sniffing glue?

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RE: a fat enablement

[Bob W]

> > Not that I want to get all intimately pedantic, isn't the camera body
> > more like a matriarch in a polyandrous society with a bunch of
> > husbands who, um, take their occasional turns at the, um, mount?  -T
> >
> 
> Are we about to have a Sermon on the Mount?
> 
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there's a photo of Jesus here, boasting about the size of his lens.
http://www.goodsalt.com/details/ebsps1123.html

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RE: APOD: Today's Astronomy Picture of the Day

[Bob W]

> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> John Francis
> 
> That's the nature of exponential growth.
> 
> James Burke had a popular TV series called "The Day the Universe
> Changed"
> showing how some technologies totally disrupted the society of their
> time.
> 

[...]

> Before that there was Gutenberg, who created the first information age.
> And so backwards through the ages to the introduction of various
> metals,
> agriculture, timekeeping, navigation, etc.
> 

Jared Diamond has written some very good books about that sort of thing. In
particular, the influence on history of the domestication of the horse, and
the much later invention of the stirrup. He discusses these in Guns, Germs
and Steel. Well worth a read.

> I'm sure every age feels that theirs is the culmination of human
> advancement.

I seem to recall reading somewhere about a director of the patent office
somewhere - New York, I think - towards the end of the 19th century
resigning because there was 'nothing left to invent'. Next thing you know,
Edison's walking through the door...

> I just wonder what our grandchildren (if we have any) will consider to
> be the
> defining technology of their time. It's probably surfaced by now, but
> hasn't
> yet progressed much beyond the laboratory.

Personal jet-packs

B


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Re: pesos cormy and friend

[Walter Gilbert]

   I had an absolute blast running around shooting the countryside with 
Larry, and got more photos than I even know what to do with at this 
point.  I'm working on getting some cleaned up to post for the folks who 
originally hosted me on the trip at the moment, but I'll be posting some 
of the shots I took with Larry in the very near future.  I just need to 
take care of a little business first, but once I have a good start on 
it, I'll get to work on the pleasure photos.


Many thanks, Larry!  You were a kind, generous, and helpful host throughout!

-- Walt

On 3/29/2011 4:08 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

Before Walt leaves for Kentucky tomorrow, I brought him down to twin lakes 
beach / Schwann lagoon to see if we could find any cormorants.  Just before 
dark, I saw an osprey flying with a fish in its talons. Shortly thereafter a 
cormorant landed in the same tree, not far away.   I spent some time shooting 
from across the lagoon with my 300/2.8 adaptall and its 2x TC. Just as the 
light was fading, I realized that if I walked around the lagoon I could get a 
lot closer, and in the fading light, I'd do better with the 300/2.8 from 100 
feet below rather than 500 feet away across the lagoon.

I wasn't having tremendously good luck, I even tried the pop-up flash on the 
K-5. Just as I was walking away, I remembered I had my AF540 in my pack.  It 
took a few tries to get it to even fire, but once I did, and bumped up the ISO 
to 4,000, I got some decent shots.

You gonna finish that?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5570042123/in/set-72157626252702803/

whatcha lookin at?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5570302097/

demon cormorant
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5570302411/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5570303399/

The flash didn't fire, so I played with with the shot a bit:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5570303399/

These and a few more that I've picked out are in this set:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157626252702803/

I've learned that for birding, especially late in the day, a monopod just isn't 
enough. I'm gaining more respect for how skill, and equipment, intensive 
birding is, and will probably stick with something easy, like photographing 
dancers in dark rooms.

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Re: APOD: Today's Astronomy Picture of the Day

[Bill Owens]

Just shows how insignificant we are

Bill

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Re: New Pentax System...April fools'?

[Steven Desjardins]

If only.  That market has money and buys stuff.

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>> -Original Message-
>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>> Jaume Lahuerta
>
>
>>
>> http://k-rumors.com/first-pictures-of-the-pentax-nc-1-system/
>>
>
> pitched squarely at the pimp market.
>
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Re: APOD: Today's Astronomy Picture of the Day

[steve harley]

On 2011-03-30 11:59 , John Francis wrote:

I just wonder what our grandchildren (if we have any) will consider to be the
defining technology of their time. It's probably surfaced by now, but hasn't
yet progressed much beyond the laboratory.


an interesting article on one such tech surfaced today on TOP:



however my thinking is that it's not technology per se, but the social 
structures technology has begun to enable, that will produce the most 
dramatic upcoming changes



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Re: APOD: Today's Astronomy Picture of the Day

[Miserere]

>From a purely photographic point of view, this APOD (actually and
AVOD) is quite beautiful:

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap110328.html

No worries, it won't blow your eyes out.

Cheers,


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On 29 March 2011 15:38, Walter Hamler  wrote:
> http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
>
>
> This is one to blow your mind. Be sure to click on the links that get
> you to the high res version so you can see all the smaller planets
> (like Earth!).
> If you ever wondered "are we alone in the Universe?", this pic goes a
> long way toward a possible answer.
>
> Walt

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Re: Photo Annual 2011: Uploaded

[Bulent Celasun]

I can realize the work behind the book(s) easily as I am far behind my
schedule fr a project that should have been finished more than a year
ago!
Anxious to see the 2011 volume.

Thanks Mark!

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Re: New Pentax System...April fools'?

[Collin Brendemuehl]

>I just received an e-mail from Pentax HQ and they told me they're
>still working on what "NC" will stand for. These are some of the
>options they have in mind:

I'll wait for model NC-1701
At that point I will make a trek to my local vendor.

Sincerely, 

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Re: APOD: Today's Astronomy Picture of the Day

[John Francis]

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 07:43:32PM +0100, Bob W wrote:
> 
> Jared Diamond has written some very good books about that sort of thing. In
> particular, the influence on history of the domestication of the horse, and
> the much later invention of the stirrup. He discusses these in Guns, Germs
> and Steel. Well worth a read.

Thanks for the tip - I've put in a request at my local library
(all without even leaving my desk, or picking up a telephone).
I could have made the request using my phone, though - there's
an app for that.


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Re: New Pentax System...April fools'?

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On Mar 30, 2011, at 12:44 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

>> I just received an e-mail from Pentax HQ and they told me they're
>> still working on what "NC" will stand for. These are some of the
>> options they have in mind:
> 
> I'll wait for model NC-1701
> At that point I will make a trek to my local vendor.

I know NC-17  and NCC-1701, the mashup of the two of them could be an 
interesting enterprise.

> 
> Sincerely, 
> 
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> http://kerygmainstitute.org 
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Re: New Pentax System...April fools'?

[John Francis]

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 07:44:12PM +, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
> >I just received an e-mail from Pentax HQ and they told me they're
> >still working on what "NC" will stand for. These are some of the
> >options they have in mind:
> 
> I'll wait for model NC-1701
> At that point I will make a trek to my local vendor.

I'd wait for the later variants; I'll bet it takes them three or
four tries before they get a version with most of the bugs out.


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OT using a 12" powerbook for showing photos

[Larry Colen]

If I had unlimited funds, I'd get one of the new notepads just for showing off 
my photos. Sometimes I have at least a tenuous grasp on reality, so I'm not 
going to get one, at least not this week.  My 12" iPod, aka my G4 power book, 
might actually do well for showing photos, and would be easier to carry than a 
stack of albums.

What software options are there for showing photos on an older mac?  I abhor 
iPhoto, though it may work for this purpose, the bar isn't very high for there 
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RE: OT using a 12" powerbook for showing photos

[Bob W]

> If I had unlimited funds, I'd get one of the new notepads just for
> showing off my photos. Sometimes I have at least a tenuous grasp on
> reality, so I'm not going to get one, at least not this week.  My 12"
> iPod, aka my G4 power book, might actually do well for showing photos,
> and would be easier to carry than a stack of albums.
> 
> What software options are there for showing photos on an older mac?  I
> abhor iPhoto, though it may work for this purpose, the bar isn't very
> high for there to be something better.
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why not use Lightroom's slideshow?

B


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RE: a fat enablement

[Krisjanis Linkevics]

> > kris
>
>have you been sniffing glue?

No just sensor dust..

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Re: OT using a 12" powerbook for showing photos

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I use Keynote to display photos. It's very easy to build a beautiful
Keynote presentation and also to output it to a QuickTime movie for
automated running or presentation on the web. The iWork '09 package
(Pages, Keynote and Numbers) runs fine still on PowerPC G4 laptops.

Godfrey

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> If I had unlimited funds, I'd get one of the new notepads just for showing 
> off my photos. Sometimes I have at least a tenuous grasp on reality, so I'm 
> not going to get one, at least not this week.  My 12" iPod, aka my G4 power 
> book, might actually do well for showing photos, and would be easier to carry 
> than a stack of albums.
>
> What software options are there for showing photos on an older mac?  I abhor 
> iPhoto, though it may work for this purpose, the bar isn't very high for 
> there to be something better.
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Re: OT using a 12" powerbook for showing photos

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Oh yeah: iWork '09 costs $79.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> I use Keynote to display photos. It's very easy to build a beautiful
> Keynote presentation and also to output it to a QuickTime movie for
> automated running or presentation on the web. The iWork '09 package
> (Pages, Keynote and Numbers) runs fine still on PowerPC G4 laptops.
>
> Godfrey
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> If I had unlimited funds, I'd get one of the new notepads just for showing 
>> off my photos. Sometimes I have at least a tenuous grasp on reality, so I'm 
>> not going to get one, at least not this week.  My 12" iPod, aka my G4 power 
>> book, might actually do well for showing photos, and would be easier to 
>> carry than a stack of albums.
>>
>> What software options are there for showing photos on an older mac?  I abhor 
>> iPhoto, though it may work for this purpose, the bar isn't very high for 
>> there to be something better.
>>
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Re: OT using a 12" powerbook for showing photos

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Lightroom 3 cannot run on a PowerBook G4. It requires an Apple
Intel-cpu system.


On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> If I had unlimited funds, I'd get one of the new notepads just for
>> showing off my photos. Sometimes I have at least a tenuous grasp on
>> reality, so I'm not going to get one, at least not this week.  My 12"
>> iPod, aka my G4 power book, might actually do well for showing photos,
>> and would be easier to carry than a stack of albums.
>>
>> What software options are there for showing photos on an older mac?  I
>> abhor iPhoto, though it may work for this purpose, the bar isn't very
>> high for there to be something better.
>>
>> --
>> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est
>
> why not use Lightroom's slideshow?
>
> B
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Re: OT using a 12" powerbook for showing photos

[Bruce Walker]

On 11-03-30 4:11 PM, Bob W wrote:

If I had unlimited funds, I'd get one of the new notepads just for
showing off my photos. Sometimes I have at least a tenuous grasp on
reality, so I'm not going to get one, at least not this week.  My 12"
iPod, aka my G4 power book, might actually do well for showing photos,
and would be easier to carry than a stack of albums.

What software options are there for showing photos on an older mac?  I
abhor iPhoto, though it may work for this purpose, the bar isn't very
high for there to be something better.

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why not use Lightroom's slideshow?

B


I assume you mean the HTML/Javascript created by LR and view it in a web 
browser?  Good luck getting LR itself to work on a 1GHz PowerPC Mac.  
Pretty sure LR is Intel Mac only.


I've tried to display photos to people on my 2003 vintage 12" 
PowerBook.  I just loaded it up with JPEGs and used Preview to step 
through them.  Unfortunately, the PB's TN display with its low contrast 
and poor viewing angles made that less than stellar.  In fact one image 
came out almost completely black no matter how it was viewed.  But it 
*can* work.


I can highly recommend using an iPad for this though. It has a builtin 
image gallery (it can be set into rotating picture frame mode if you 
like) and it has a gorgeous IPS display. Photos on that device look 
great.  You should be able to pick up a 1st gen iPad for cheap since the 
iPad 2's are in great demand.


-bmw

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Re: OT using a 12" powerbook for showing photos

[Bruce Walker]

You could even pick up Keynote alone for $20 via the App Store.  Great 
to know it still works on PowerPC.  I still drag my old G4 to meetings.


-bmw


On 11-03-30 4:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I use Keynote to display photos. It's very easy to build a beautiful
Keynote presentation and also to output it to a QuickTime movie for
automated running or presentation on the web. The iWork '09 package
(Pages, Keynote and Numbers) runs fine still on PowerPC G4 laptops.

Godfrey

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

If I had unlimited funds, I'd get one of the new notepads just for showing off my 
photos. Sometimes I have at least a tenuous grasp on reality, so I'm not going to 
get one, at least not this week.  My 12" iPod, aka my G4 power book, might 
actually do well for showing photos, and would be easier to carry than a stack of 
albums.

What software options are there for showing photos on an older mac?  I abhor 
iPhoto, though it may work for this purpose, the bar isn't very high for there 
to be something better.

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Re: As big as a submarine

[drd1135]

Wheels might be more appropriate. 
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On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Jeffery Johnson
 wrote:
> I wonder how good this would be taking it out for nature captures.

At least it comes with a handy handle for long walks.

Dave
>
> -Original Message-
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> Collin Brendemuehl
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 8:45 PM
> To: pdml
> Subject: As big as a submarine
>
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/551435-REG/Sigma_597101_200_500mm_f_2_
> 8_EX_DG.html
>
> And a similar color, too.
>
> Sincerely,
>
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Re: OT using a 12" powerbook for showing photos

[steve harley]

On 2011-03-30 13:57 , Larry Colen wrote:

What software options are there for showing photos on an older mac?


Keynote's a good idea, but since you already use Flickr, if you can 
stomach Flash, why not set it up in Flickr and use full-screen mode?


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Re: OT using a 12" powerbook for showing photos

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on Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> I assume you mean the HTML/Javascript created by LR and view it in a web
> browser?  Good luck getting LR itself to work on a 1GHz PowerPC Mac.  Pretty
> sure LR is Intel Mac only.

LR2 ran fine on a 1-1.6 Ghz PowerBook G4s. Not fast, of course, but
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Re: OT using a 12" powerbook for showing photos

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

That pre-supposes a good web connection, steve.

G

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:46 PM, steve harley  wrote:
> On 2011-03-30 13:57 , Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>> What software options are there for showing photos on an older mac?
>
> Keynote's a good idea, but since you already use Flickr, if you can stomach
> Flash, why not set it up in Flickr and use full-screen mode?
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Re: OT using a 12" powerbook for showing photos

[Tim Bray]

You could do worse than just selecting them all in Finder then opening
them in Preview, which isn't exactly a slideshow but does allow you to
click through the pictures. And it's fast. -T

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> If I had unlimited funds, I'd get one of the new notepads just for showing 
> off my photos. Sometimes I have at least a tenuous grasp on reality, so I'm 
> not going to get one, at least not this week.  My 12" iPod, aka my G4 power 
> book, might actually do well for showing photos, and would be easier to carry 
> than a stack of albums.
>
> What software options are there for showing photos on an older mac?  I abhor 
> iPhoto, though it may work for this purpose, the bar isn't very high for 
> there to be something better.
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Re: OT using a 12" powerbook for showing photos

[eckinator]

I received a mail this evening that I can pick up my iPad 2 WiFi & 3G
64 GB tomorrow morning. They had me over a barrel because I needed one
Monday latest so they sold me the biggest one saying it is the only
one I can have. Had to buy it for my business. I doubt it will see
much use and it upsets me that I have no money to replace my dying
K10D but need to buy that thing which sure is nice but adds no
productivity whatsoever to my life.

oh well, might as well try to get some mileage out of it now that I
have it. and some time in winter I will be required to buy an Android
Honeycomb tablet. I guess that means no camera replacement for a while
yet to come...

2011/3/30 Larry Colen :
> If I had unlimited funds, I'd get one of the new notepads just for showing 
> off my photos. Sometimes I have at least a tenuous grasp on reality, so I'm 
> not going to get one, at least not this week.  My 12" iPod, aka my G4 power 
> book, might actually do well for showing photos, and would be easier to carry 
> than a stack of albums.
>
> What software options are there for showing photos on an older mac?  I abhor 
> iPhoto, though it may work for this purpose, the bar isn't very high for 
> there to be something better.
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Re: OT using a 12" powerbook for showing photos

[steve harley]

On 2011-03-30 14:48 , Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

That pre-supposes a good web connection, steve.


i suppose it does

another option is Preview -- drag the batch of photos onto it and press 
command-shift-f for slideshow


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Re: OT using a 12" powerbook for showing photos

[steve harley]

On 2011-03-30 14:48 , Tim Bray wrote:

You could do worse than just selecting them all in Finder then opening
them in Preview, which isn't exactly a slideshow but does allow you to
click through the pictures. And it's fast. -T


Preview does have a slideshow feature

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Re: OT using a 12" powerbook for showing photos

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

The App Store cannot run in anything other than Snow Leopard v10.6.6,
which requires an Intel processor.

Godfrey

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> You could even pick up Keynote alone for $20 via the App Store.  Great to
> know it still works on PowerPC.  I still drag my old G4 to meetings.
>
> -bmw
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> On 11-03-30 4:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>
>> I use Keynote to display photos. It's very easy to build a beautiful
>> Keynote presentation and also to output it to a QuickTime movie for
>> automated running or presentation on the web. The iWork '09 package
>> (Pages, Keynote and Numbers) runs fine still on PowerPC G4 laptops.
>>
>> Godfrey
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>>
>>> If I had unlimited funds, I'd get one of the new notepads just for
>>> showing off my photos. Sometimes I have at least a tenuous grasp on reality,
>>> so I'm not going to get one, at least not this week.  My 12" iPod, aka my G4
>>> power book, might actually do well for showing photos, and would be easier
>>> to carry than a stack of albums.
>>>
>>> What software options are there for showing photos on an older mac?  I
>>> abhor iPhoto, though it may work for this purpose, the bar isn't very high
>>> for there to be something better.
>>>
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Re: OT using a 12" powerbook for showing photos

[Bruce Walker]

Sure, but once downloaded on an Intel Mac, you should be able to copy 
Keynote over to the PowerBook and run it.  *Unless* of course the App 
Store delivers a thin Intel-only binary.  That wouldn't surprise me either.


-bmw


On 11-03-30 4:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

The App Store cannot run in anything other than Snow Leopard v10.6.6,
which requires an Intel processor.

Godfrey

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

You could even pick up Keynote alone for $20 via the App Store.  Great to
know it still works on PowerPC.  I still drag my old G4 to meetings.

-bmw


On 11-03-30 4:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I use Keynote to display photos. It's very easy to build a beautiful
Keynote presentation and also to output it to a QuickTime movie for
automated running or presentation on the web. The iWork '09 package
(Pages, Keynote and Numbers) runs fine still on PowerPC G4 laptops.

Godfrey

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Larry Colenwrote:

If I had unlimited funds, I'd get one of the new notepads just for
showing off my photos. Sometimes I have at least a tenuous grasp on reality,
so I'm not going to get one, at least not this week.  My 12" iPod, aka my G4
power book, might actually do well for showing photos, and would be easier
to carry than a stack of albums.

What software options are there for showing photos on an older mac?  I
abhor iPhoto, though it may work for this purpose, the bar isn't very high
for there to be something better.

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Re: New Pentax System...April fools'?

[Dario Bonazza]

Miserere wrote:

I just received an e-mail from Pentax HQ and they told me they're
still working on what "NC" will stand for. These are some of the
options they have in mind:

No Comment
Niche Camera
Not Crap
Nifty Compact
Nadie Compra (for the Spanish-speaking market)
Nice Compromise
Never Crop
Need Cash

I think they'll have it figured out by April 1st.

Not Competing

Dario

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Re: OT using a 12" powerbook for showing photos

[David J Brooks]

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> If I had unlimited funds, I'd get one of the new notepads just for showing 
> off my photos. Sometimes I have at least a tenuous grasp on reality, so I'm 
> not going to get one, at least not this week.  My 12" iPod, aka my G4 power 
> book, might actually do well for showing photos, and would be easier to carry 
> than a stack of albums.
>
> What software options are there for showing photos on an older mac?  I abhor 
> iPhoto, though it may work for this purpose, the bar isn't very high for 
> there to be something better.
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Larry, I use my iBook which is close to your power book, I think, and
use it for just this purpose, showing photos to clients.
I just use the slideshow in Preview.

Dave
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Re: GESO - My Svalbard images

[Steven Desjardins]

An amazing gallery, then night shots especially.  The one with the
three light poles is sublime.

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:57 AM, AlunFoto  wrote:
> Gathered them here instead of posting them piecemeal:
> http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=26
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Re: OT using a 12" powerbook for showing photos

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Here's a quicky presentation of my "Communicating" series, rolled
through Keynote to add some effects and a sound track, then output as
a QuickTime web presentation. Took about ten minutes to produce.

http://www.gdgphoto.com/communicating25/

G

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> I use Keynote to display photos. It's very easy to build a beautiful
> Keynote presentation and also to output it to a QuickTime movie for
> automated running or presentation on the web. The iWork '09 package
> (Pages, Keynote and Numbers) runs fine still on PowerPC G4 laptops.
>
> Godfrey
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> If I had unlimited funds, I'd get one of the new notepads just for showing 
>> off my photos. Sometimes I have at least a tenuous grasp on reality, so I'm 
>> not going to get one, at least not this week.  My 12" iPod, aka my G4 power 
>> book, might actually do well for showing photos, and would be easier to 
>> carry than a stack of albums.
>>
>> What software options are there for showing photos on an older mac?  I abhor 
>> iPhoto, though it may work for this purpose, the bar isn't very high for 
>> there to be something better.
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