Re: PAW--Week 38--Fall Begins

2011-09-25 Thread DagT
Beautiful mood.

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Den 26. sep. 2011 kl. 02.26 skrev Christine Aguila:

> ;-)  cheers, Christine
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Re: PESO: Happiness is a Warm Kea

2011-09-25 Thread David Mann
On Sep 25, 2011, at 8:53 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

> I remember the Keas well around the Homer Tunnel to Milford Sound, even
> though it was over 30 years ago.  I've probably got a photo stashed away
> somewhere.

They'll go right down to sea level at Milford Sound.  We stayed there overnight 
about 10 years go and I remember being woken by them at dawn as they called 
from the forest.  Amazing experience.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO: Happiness is a Warm Kea

2011-09-25 Thread David Mann
On Sep 26, 2011, at 8:14 AM, Walter Hamler wrote:

> Back in my days in NZ while in the Navy I went up a mountain near
> Blenheim with friend. He had a Range Rover and I figured we would be
> good to go. Well, we got stuck in some deep rotten snow and had to dig
> ourselves out. While we were doing so a Kea came up to us and we were
> amazed at how tame he/she was, seemingly. It was very curious at
> everything we did, even jumping on the shovel as if to help. It never
> got aggressive, nor was it a nuisance really, just persistent!

I'm surprised it didn't pull the Range Rover to pieces.  They're very friendly 
and entertaining birds but turn your back on them and they'll start ripping all 
the rubber bits out from around the windows.

It wouldn't surprise me if it was looking for food as tourists often feed them, 
even though they're not supposed to.

They'll often work in groups.  The one you didn't see was the one sitting on 
the waist-high fence starting to nibble on Janet's handbag while that little 
fellow was engaging in his antics on her shoulder.

Thanks to everyone who looked & commented.

Cheers,
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Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-25 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Sep 25, 2011, at 20:52 , William Robb wrote:

> On 25/09/2011 2:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>> I don't care who said it, it is an ignorant and arrogant comment,
>> unworthy of a great artist.
>> 
> Quite often, the great artists are both ignorant and arrogant.
> They are, after all, merely differently gifted versions of ourselves, and 
> they have, by dint of their gift, more reason than most to be arrogant.
> Why should someone who can slap paint on a canvas in a pleasing way, or press 
> a button on a little black box at the right time be any less of a human being 
> than anyone else?
> Besides, it might have been said in jest.

I'll second Robb's explanation. 

San Francisco in the 60s. One of my good friends, an amazing artist, at that 
time using gesso and Rapidographs of the smallest wire, was drawing complex 
miniature scenes on poster board that at first and from a distance seemed to be 
a portrait, or a Haight street scene. Once you stepped in and studied it, you 
became enthralled in the internal goings on. He has since moved on, and grown 
into painting, sculpture, studied in France and God knows where else. He never 
went to school after high school. After failing as a real estate magnate (never 
started) and drug distributor, he never had another job. Everything was his 
art, and being social enough to the right people who would buy his works, or 
send him on his way to travel and paint, sculpt, etc..

I stopped by his studio some 20 years ago when I was in San Francisco for 
MacWorld, thinking how great it would be to catch up after a long absence. 
Found him working on the largest piece of jade I'd ever seen (could have been 
something similar, but he told me jade) that a woman had shipped to him to do 
with as he saw fit for her. He had fashioned it generally as the bust of a 
Roman warrior, wearing a helmet with a crest that was tall in front, small at 
the back. The crest consisted of a dozen elephants, each one smaller than the 
one in front. Each was topped with the large, covered hathi howdah the Maharaja 
would use, the drapings from that were detailed in bas-relief. Inside of each 
was a person sitting on a supported pillow. The person was about 1/2 inch tall 
and smaller, but had details on the face of a nose, eyes, mouth, and topped 
with a hat. The rest of the helmet was similarly detailed, as was what showed 
of his garment. The skin was smooth and flawless.

As I remarked on the piece, Jim blasted me with a long tirade about how I had 
graduated from art school, but had wasted my talents by working for "the man", 
learning about technology, a turncoat to the art world, a useless turd on the 
face of the earth. Followed by, "Get out!".

That sound like a true artist?   http://www.artwithin.com/art/d0/a19/

He used to be on Facebook. Not there anymore. I don't know if he is still alive.

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Re: PAW--Week 38--Fall Begins

2011-09-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 25, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

> ;-)  cheers, Christine
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VEry nice

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Re: Another color or black & white choice: Filter Question

2011-09-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 25, 2011, at 10:31 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

> I'd consider what color is blocked and what is passed through the filter, 
> then work with the luminance to get the effect.  So, yes...a red filter would 
> block blue and some green.

yeah, but the luminance sliders seem to work on the "mixed" colors, rather than 
the primary signals from the sensor.  

And, thanks Doug for pointing me at the presets.  I realize how foolish it is 
that I haven't even tried them out yet.

I think that led me to the treatment I wanted, interestingly using the blue 
filter instead of a red:
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Re: Another color or black & white choice: Filter Question

2011-09-25 Thread Paul Sorenson
I'd consider what color is blocked and what is passed through the 
filter, then work with the luminance to get the effect.  So, yes...a red 
filter would block blue and some green.


-p

On 9/26/2011 12:19 AM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Sep 25, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:


They're both very nice.  You might try reducing the green luminance some to 
darken the ferns and make the tan leaves stand out more.  I think that will 
make a difference in both the b/w and color images.




This gives me an idea.  What if I want to see what the picture would look like 
had I shot it through a red filter.  How would I do that?  Just drop the green 
and blue luminance? Twiddle with camera calibration sliders?  Is there a better 
way?


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Re: Another color or black & white choice: Filter Question

2011-09-25 Thread Doug Brewer

On 9/26/11 1:19 AM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Sep 25, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:


They're both very nice.  You might try reducing the green luminance some to 
darken the ferns and make the tan leaves stand out more.  I think that will 
make a difference in both the b/w and color images.




This gives me an idea.  What if I want to see what the picture would look like 
had I shot it through a red filter.  How would I do that?  Just drop the green 
and blue luminance? Twiddle with camera calibration sliders?  Is there a better 
way?


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I think you're using LR3. If you load the photo into the Develop module, 
then look in the LR presets, there's a B&W Red Filter Preset.


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Re: Another color or black & white choice: Filter Question

2011-09-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 25, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

> They're both very nice.  You might try reducing the green luminance some to 
> darken the ferns and make the tan leaves stand out more.  I think that will 
> make a difference in both the b/w and color images.
> 


This gives me an idea.  What if I want to see what the picture would look like 
had I shot it through a red filter.  How would I do that?  Just drop the green 
and blue luminance? Twiddle with camera calibration sliders?  Is there a better 
way?


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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-25 Thread Paul Sorenson
The big problem was in the instructions of paper placement.  I clearly 
remember teachers telling us to turn the paper so the top of the paper 
is pointed toward the upper left corner of our desks.  That's great if 
you're right-handed.  Being left-handed and kind of a perverse little 
kid I turned mine so the top was pointed toward the upper right desk 
corner.  That kept me from having to tie my hand in a knot to write and 
I didn't drag my hand through the fresh ink.  Unfortunately nothing has 
ever worked to improve my penmanship...


-p

On 9/25/2011 2:26 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

They were taught to write without curling the left hand around above the line.  
I know several lefties who use fountain pens.

Rick


--- On Sun, 9/25/11, Steven Desjardins  wrote:


So what did lefties do before
ballpoints?

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 12:22 PM, John Francis
wrote:


I tried writing upside-down for a while.  It was

slow, but it

was almost worth it to watch the double takes from the

teachers!



On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 09:25:27AM -0400, Bruce Walker

wrote:

Just learn to write right-to-left or switch to a

language (Arabic,

Hebrew) that works that way.


On 11-09-24 10:54 PM, John Francis wrote:

Not if you're left-handed ...

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 06:57:32PM -0700, Rick

Womer wrote:

Damn!  I =still= use a fountain pen,

every day.  It does the job better than anything else.


Rick

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there wouldn't have been 25 year gap

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Re: Another color or black & white choice:

2011-09-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 25, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

> They're both very nice.  You might try reducing the green luminance some to 
> darken the ferns and make the tan leaves stand out more.  I think that will 
> make a difference in both the b/w and color images.

Good advice, I just tried it, and updated the shots.

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Re: Another color or black & white choice:

2011-09-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 25, 2011, at 9:43 PM, David Parsons wrote:

> It's close, but the color does it for me.
> 

Thanks.  I saw the color as one that would work in B&W, but wasn't sure whether 
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Re: Another color or black & white choice:

2011-09-25 Thread Paul Sorenson
They're both very nice.  You might try reducing the green luminance 
some to darken the ferns and make the tan leaves stand out more.  I 
think that will make a difference in both the b/w and color images.


-p

On 9/25/2011 10:24 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Is one better? Or are they merely different?

Black and white:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6182623519/in/set-72157627752114722/lightbox/

Color:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6183106998/in/set-72157627752114722/lightbox/

I tried photographing my redwood grove from the riverbed. It didn't really work 
for two reasons. First, they sky is overcast, so the sky is brighter than the 
trees, and it just didn't work. Also, too much foliage has grown in over the 
summer.  In need to try in the spring, when the trees down by the river are a 
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Re: Another color or black & white choice:

2011-09-25 Thread David Parsons
It's close, but the color does it for me.

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> Is one better? Or are they merely different?
>
> Black and white:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6182623519/in/set-72157627752114722/lightbox/
>
> Color:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6183106998/in/set-72157627752114722/lightbox/
>
> I tried photographing my redwood grove from the riverbed. It didn't really 
> work for two reasons. First, they sky is overcast, so the sky is brighter 
> than the trees, and it just didn't work. Also, too much foliage has grown in 
> over the summer.  In need to try in the spring, when the trees down by the 
> river are a lot more bare.
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Re: PESO Moves PhotoShopped

2011-09-25 Thread Paul Sorenson

Looks much better.  I'll bet it looks great on paper.

-p

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I'm turning out a big print order today and had room on the last sheet for an 
extra 8x 12, so I decided to print yesterday's pic of Grace doing downhill 
cardboard. So I figured I ought to bite the bullet and clone out the red stuff 
at lower left in the original.

Here's the new version:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14279752

And the original:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14274513


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Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-25 Thread William Robb

On 25/09/2011 2:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I don't care who said it, it is an ignorant and arrogant comment,
unworthy of a great artist.




Quite often, the great artists are both ignorant and arrogant.
They are, after all, merely differently gifted versions of ourselves, 
and they have, by dint of their gift, more reason than most to be arrogant.
Why should someone who can slap paint on a canvas in a pleasing way, or 
press a button on a little black box at the right time be any less of a 
human being than anyone else?

Besides, it might have been said in jest.

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Re: PAW90 - Drops

2011-09-25 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Sep 25, 2011, at 15:03 , DagT wrote:

> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
> K-5, DA*50-135mm@135, 1/200s, f/5-6, ISO100.

Peaceful. Quiet. Thanks…

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Re: PAW--Week 38--Fall Begins

2011-09-25 Thread Tim Bray
Good stuff; I love the multilayering. -T

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Re: PAW90 - Drops

2011-09-25 Thread Tim Bray
Very elegant, thanks. -T

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Re: PESO Ashley

2011-09-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 25, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> Cool! Your perspective makes it more than a picture of someone else's art. 
> Well done.

Thank you Paul.  Especially since, while I didn't think of it in exactly those 
terms, you put in words what I was trying to do.


> Paul
> On Sep 25, 2011, at 6:50 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
>> From the same SIMBY(*) photo walk, some graffiti under the bridge up the 
>> river from my house:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6182588449/in/set-72157627752114722/lightbox/
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Another color or black & white choice:

2011-09-25 Thread Larry Colen
Is one better? Or are they merely different?

Black and white:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6182623519/in/set-72157627752114722/lightbox/

Color:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6183106998/in/set-72157627752114722/lightbox/

I tried photographing my redwood grove from the riverbed. It didn't really work 
for two reasons. First, they sky is overcast, so the sky is brighter than the 
trees, and it just didn't work. Also, too much foliage has grown in over the 
summer.  In need to try in the spring, when the trees down by the river are a 
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Re: Pentax Sighting at the Strobist

2011-09-25 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Sep 25, 2011, at 17:40 , Bruce Walker wrote:

> On 11-09-25 8:12 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:
>> On Sep 25, 2011, at 11:10 , Bruce Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11-09-25 12:38 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
 Pentax 67, (who says film is dead), but lots of Gallic silliness and naked 
 people.  NSFW, so you've been warned.
 
 http://strobist.blogspot.com/2011/09/and-now-your-nsfw-underwear-shoot-bts.html
 
>>> That's Gallic with an F, btw.
>>  I'm sure you meant Ph , Bruce.   :-)
> 
> Yeah, I was thinking fonetically at the time.

That 'F' word is always the easy way to describe.


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Re: PESO - Happiness is a Warm Kitten

2011-09-25 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 7:19 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Well done. Great expression

Bruce, Jack, Steve, Dave, thanks for looking and commenting.  Glad you
all liked it.

Thanks to everyone else who looked.  Hope you enjoyed.

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RE: It's official, my FA 50 mm f1.4

2011-09-25 Thread Jeffery Johnson
Sorry to read that Christine so when is the funeral and will you be burying
it in the back yard.


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is dead.  Wouldn't work while in field today.  Ugh.  Damn.

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Re: PAW--Week 38--Fall Begins

2011-09-25 Thread Stan Halpin
I like the framing, as it were.

stan

On Sep 25, 2011, at 7:26 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

> ;-)  cheers, Christine
> 
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Re: PAW90 - Drops

2011-09-25 Thread Stan Halpin
Very nice. Simple, sparse, elegant.

stan

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> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
> K-5, DA*50-135mm@135, 1/200s, f/5-6, ISO100.
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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
OK.  I was a ballpoint baby so it was never an issue.  At my Catholic
school, no Inquisition for the lefties.

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> Used a pencil or got ink on the side of my left hand.
>
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> - Original Message - From: "Steven Desjardins" 
> Subject: Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?
>
>
> So what did lefties do before ballpoints?
>
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 12:22 PM, John Francis  wrote:
>>
>> I tried writing upside-down for a while. It was slow, but it
>> was almost worth it to watch the double takes from the teachers!
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 09:25:27AM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>>
>>> Just learn to write right-to-left or switch to a language (Arabic,
>>> Hebrew) that works that way.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11-09-24 10:54 PM, John Francis wrote:
>>> >Not if you're left-handed ...
>>> >
>>> >On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 06:57:32PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote:
>>> >>Damn! I =still= use a fountain pen, every day. It does the job better
>>> >> >>than anything else.
>>> >>
>>> >>Rick
>>> >>
>>> >>--- On Sat, 9/24/11, Larry Colen wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>I was one of
>>> >>>those kids that used a fountain pen, just because it was
>>> >>>archaic and different.? If decent digital cameras and
>>> >>>processing had been around when I lost darkroom access,
>>> >>>there wouldn't have been 25 year gap in my serious
>>> >>>shooting.
>>> >>>
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>>> >>>sent from i4est
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Re: Pentax Sighting at the Strobist

2011-09-25 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-09-25 8:12 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

On Sep 25, 2011, at 11:10 , Bruce Walker wrote:


On 11-09-25 12:38 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

Pentax 67, (who says film is dead), but lots of Gallic silliness and naked 
people.  NSFW, so you've been warned.

http://strobist.blogspot.com/2011/09/and-now-your-nsfw-underwear-shoot-bts.html


That's Gallic with an F, btw.

  I'm sure you meant Ph , Bruce.   :-)


Yeah, I was thinking fonetically at the time.


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Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-25 Thread David Parsons
He's still human and entitled to any opinion.  The 'greats' may have
been contemporaries, but they wouldn't necessarily like each other or
their work.

It's really no different than someone saying why have a space program
when there are homeless people here on Earth.  Or why do anything for
foreigners, when there are homeless people here in America.

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> I don't care who said it, it is an ignorant and arrogant comment,
> unworthy of a great artist.
>
> Dan
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>
>
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> Then the first one up against the wall will be HCB himself.
>>
>> "The world is going to pieces and Adams and Weston are photographing rocks
>> and trees."
>> -- Henri Cartier-Bresson
>>
>> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/ansel/filmmore/pt.html
>>
>> If you didn't wade through the entire thread you likely missed this.
>>
>> -bmw
>>
>> On 11-09-24 10:08 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
>>>
>>> The reason Adams' work seems kitsch is that he defined the genera, and any
>>> critic who thinks that social relevance defines "Art" should be taken out
>>> and shot immediately.
>>>
>>> On 9/19/2011 8:42 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Talk about Ansel Adams (see "A door to nowhere" thread) had me searching
 for something about a repeated criticism of Ansel Adams that I've run
 across: that he's the Normal Rockwell of photogs; that his output is kitsch
 rather than art; that his belief in beauty above all rather then social
 relevance, left him on the bottom rung of fine arts.

 So I located this excellent essay:

 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/ansel-adams-but-is-it-art-749574.html

 Criticism of AA seems to boil down to a fashion thing. It seems to be
 safe to like Adams again. :)

 -bmw

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PAW--Week 38--Fall Begins

2011-09-25 Thread Christine Aguila
;-)  cheers, Christine

http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/

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Re: PESO 2011 - 136 - GDG

2011-09-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like that. Very graphic.

Paul
On Sep 25, 2011, at 8:08 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> One more and I'm done for the weekend. 
> 
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6182888125/lightbox/
> or
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6182888125/
> 
> Well, not quite. I made a small set of the tree photos from yesterday's walk 
> in Guadalupe River Park too. 
> 
> Tree Scenes: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157627752634750/ 
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Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
HCB had trouble getting things in focus. That's okay, because he worked in an 
entirely different genre than Adams. But his critique is simply bullshit. 
Evidence of a small mind and a big ego.

Paul

Paul
On Sep 25, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> I don't care who said it, it is an ignorant and arrogant comment,
> unworthy of a great artist.
> 
> Dan
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> 
> 
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> Then the first one up against the wall will be HCB himself.
>> 
>> "The world is going to pieces and Adams and Weston are photographing rocks
>> and trees."
>> -- Henri Cartier-Bresson
>> 
>> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/ansel/filmmore/pt.html
>> 
>> If you didn't wade through the entire thread you likely missed this.
>> 
>> -bmw
>> 
>> On 11-09-24 10:08 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
>>> 
>>> The reason Adams' work seems kitsch is that he defined the genera, and any
>>> critic who thinks that social relevance defines "Art" should be taken out
>>> and shot immediately.
>>> 
>>> On 9/19/2011 8:42 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
 
 Talk about Ansel Adams (see "A door to nowhere" thread) had me searching
 for something about a repeated criticism of Ansel Adams that I've run
 across: that he's the Normal Rockwell of photogs; that his output is kitsch
 rather than art; that his belief in beauty above all rather then social
 relevance, left him on the bottom rung of fine arts.
 
 So I located this excellent essay:
 
 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/ansel-adams-but-is-it-art-749574.html
 
 Criticism of AA seems to boil down to a fashion thing. It seems to be
 safe to like Adams again. :)
 
 -bmw
 
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>>> avoid a lengthily search.
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Re: PAW90 - Drops

2011-09-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Minimalist and compelling.

Dan
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Re: Pentax Sighting at the Strobist

2011-09-25 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Sep 25, 2011, at 11:10 , Bruce Walker wrote:

> On 11-09-25 12:38 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
>> Pentax 67, (who says film is dead), but lots of Gallic silliness and naked 
>> people.  NSFW, so you've been warned.
>> 
>> http://strobist.blogspot.com/2011/09/and-now-your-nsfw-underwear-shoot-bts.html
>>  
>> 
> 
> That's Gallic with an F, btw.

 I'm sure you meant Ph , Bruce.   :-)


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PESO 2011 - 136 - GDG

2011-09-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
One more and I'm done for the weekend. 

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6182888125/lightbox/
or
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6182888125/

Well, not quite. I made a small set of the tree photos from yesterday's walk in 
Guadalupe River Park too. 

Tree Scenes: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157627752634750/ 

enjoy!
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Re: PESO: Percussion

2011-09-25 Thread Joseph McAllister
on Sep 25, 2011, at 09:16 , Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=141
> 
> Comments and criticisms are invited.

Nice shot, Dan. Blur in the mallets, sharp everywhere else.

The title is OK if you're going for abstract, but in the trade, they are known 
as percussionists, which actually refers to any musician who is practiced in 
the art of whacking things with hand or sticks. Those instruments in your 
photograph are called Timpani, a plural noun, though kettledrums have always 
been in use in many languages. Even the dictionary uses kettledrums in it's 
definition. And one who specializes in playing the Timpani is a Timpanist. Sort 
of like calling a Marine a Jarhead though, ya know.

When I was a percussionist in various bands and orchestras, I was often the 
timpanist in the orchestra. But I was tone deaf, so any change of pitch that I 
had to do during a performance saw me with a pitch pipe in one hand, my ear 
inches from the head, lightly tapping with my mallet, or finger, until they 
seemed to match. Usually I played a peddle timpani, though not all of the drums 
in front of me were peddle tuned. Those that had to be pre-tuned with 8 or 12 
tuning pegs were used at the ends of the series in front of the player. 
Depending on the demands of the score, even those had to be bumped up or down 
during a lull in the work.

Again, more than most wanted to know, for the few that do.  [Mark!]


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Re: PAW90 - Drops

2011-09-25 Thread David J Brooks
Very interesting

Dave

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Re: PAW90 - Drops

2011-09-25 Thread Christine Aguila
Wonderful!  cheers, Christine


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Re: It's official, my FA 50 mm f1.4

2011-09-25 Thread Christine Aguila


On Sep 25, 2011, at 6:24 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> That attachment thing may be true in general, but not after you've used the 
> DA* 55 for a while. :-)
> 
As you know, I've had my eye on that lens for some time now.  It may be on my 
nearish future.  :-). Cheers,  Christine---ah ,Bears lost.  Thank the gods the 
pain is over.  Tough game to watch

> Sorry to hear that your FA50 is deceased.
> 
> -bmw
> 
> On 11-09-25 7:12 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
>> Yep, I thought about replacement when it dropped--and I thought about the 
>> DA* 55, and I'll be happy with that lens, but you get attached to lenses 
>> that have served you well, don't you?  I'll try repair first.  Cheers, 
>> Christine
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>>> Sorry to hear that. But it can probably  be repaired.If not, replace it 
>>> with the DA* 55 or the FA 43 limited:-)
>>> Paul
>>> On Sep 25, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
>>> 
 is dead.  Wouldn't work while in field today.  Ugh.  Damn.
 
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Re: It's official, my FA 50 mm f1.4

2011-09-25 Thread Bruce Walker
That attachment thing may be true in general, but not after you've used 
the DA* 55 for a while. :-)


Sorry to hear that your FA50 is deceased.

-bmw

On 11-09-25 7:12 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Yep, I thought about replacement when it dropped--and I thought about the DA* 
55, and I'll be happy with that lens, but you get attached to lenses that have 
served you well, don't you?  I'll try repair first.  Cheers, Christine

On Sep 25, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:


Sorry to hear that. But it can probably  be repaired.If not, replace it with 
the DA* 55 or the FA 43 limited:-)
Paul
On Sep 25, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:


is dead.  Wouldn't work while in field today.  Ugh.  Damn.




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Re: It's official, my FA 50 mm f1.4

2011-09-25 Thread Christine Aguila
Yep, I thought about replacement when it dropped--and I thought about the DA* 
55, and I'll be happy with that lens, but you get attached to lenses that have 
served you well, don't you?  I'll try repair first.  Cheers, Christine

On Sep 25, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> Sorry to hear that. But it can probably  be repaired.If not, replace it with 
> the DA* 55 or the FA 43 limited:-)
> Paul
> On Sep 25, 2011, at 6:40 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
> 
>> is dead.  Wouldn't work while in field today.  Ugh.  Damn.
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Re: Pentax Sighting at the Strobist

2011-09-25 Thread P. J. Alling

On 9/25/2011 4:41 PM, Bob W wrote:

I'm not sure I entirely believe this. Nobody in France has ever told me they
like Jerry Lewis, yet they're forever asking me why I killed Joan of Arc.


Probably an attempt at deflection over the shame of it all...

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Re: It's official, my FA 50 mm f1.4

2011-09-25 Thread Christine Aguila
Camera doesn't acknowledge it.  All other lenses work.  Lens also rattles quite 
a bit.  Wow, Bears interception.  I'll be right back.

On Sep 25, 2011, at 5:44 PM, "J.C. O'Connell"  wrote:

> what went wrong?
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Re: PESO Ashley

2011-09-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Cool! Your perspective makes it more than a picture of someone else's art. Well 
done.
Paul
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> From the same SIMBY(*) photo walk, some graffiti under the bridge up the 
> river from my house:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6182588449/in/set-72157627752114722/lightbox/
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Re: It's official, my FA 50 mm f1.4

2011-09-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Sorry to hear that. But it can probably  be repaired.If not, replace it with 
the DA* 55 or the FA 43 limited:-)
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> is dead.  Wouldn't work while in field today.  Ugh.  Damn.
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PESO Ashley

2011-09-25 Thread Larry Colen
>From the same SIMBY(*) photo walk, some graffiti under the bridge up the river 
>from my house:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6182588449/in/set-72157627752114722/lightbox/

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RE: It's official, my FA 50 mm f1.4

2011-09-25 Thread J.C. O'Connell
what went wrong?

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Re: Pentax Sighting at the Strobist

2011-09-25 Thread David Parsons
I wasn't disputing the effectiveness, just describing what it is.

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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> On Sep 25, 2011, at 11:36 AM, David Parsons wrote:
>
>> It's a behind-the-scenes of an underwear shoot.  Supposedly to make
>> the models comfortable, everyone else got naked.  It was probably
>> released as part of the campaign to promote the photographer as much
>> as the client's products.
>
> It got you to look didn't it?
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It's official, my FA 50 mm f1.4

2011-09-25 Thread Christine Aguila
is dead.  Wouldn't work while in field today.  Ugh.  Damn.

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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-25 Thread Ken Waller

Used a pencil or got ink on the side of my left hand.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Steven Desjardins" 

Subject: Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?


So what did lefties do before ballpoints?

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 12:22 PM, John Francis  wrote:


I tried writing upside-down for a while. It was slow, but it
was almost worth it to watch the double takes from the teachers!


On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 09:25:27AM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:

Just learn to write right-to-left or switch to a language (Arabic,
Hebrew) that works that way.


On 11-09-24 10:54 PM, John Francis wrote:
>Not if you're left-handed ...
>
>On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 06:57:32PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote:
>>Damn! I =still= use a fountain pen, every day. It does the job better 
>>than anything else.

>>
>>Rick
>>
>>--- On Sat, 9/24/11, Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>>>I was one of
>>>those kids that used a fountain pen, just because it was
>>>archaic and different.? If decent digital cameras and
>>>processing had been around when I lost darkroom access,
>>>there wouldn't have been 25 year gap in my serious
>>>shooting.
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PAW90 - Drops

2011-09-25 Thread DagT
http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
K-5, DA*50-135mm@135, 1/200s, f/5-6, ISO100.

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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
My wife, who is a lefty, had to write with a fountain pen through her first few 
years in school. She said she'd come home ink stained, and that she sometimes 
had to start an assignment over after smearing it. Her older brother, on the 
other hand (no pun intended), was beat with a yardstick until he learned to 
write with his right hand. 
Paul
On Sep 25, 2011, at 4:48 PM, John Francis wrote:

> 
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 02:34:21PM -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote:
>> So what did lefties do before ballpoints?
> 
> Kept quiet about it.
> 
> My grandmother wasn't allowed to be a lefty - she was forced to eat,
> write, etc. with her right hand.
> 
> That was the norm in her generation.  I don't know if she would have
> allowed my mother to be left-handed, but the problem never arose.
> 
> Being allowed to use a ballpoint pen rather than a fountain pen
> was pretty radical when I was at school. Fortunately for me most
> of the schools I attended were quite progressive in their views;
> some of the other schools in the area still insisted on "real" pens.
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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-25 Thread John Francis

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 02:34:21PM -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote:
> So what did lefties do before ballpoints?

Kept quiet about it.

My grandmother wasn't allowed to be a lefty - she was forced to eat,
write, etc. with her right hand.

That was the norm in her generation.  I don't know if she would have
allowed my mother to be left-handed, but the problem never arose.

Being allowed to use a ballpoint pen rather than a fountain pen
was pretty radical when I was at school. Fortunately for me most
of the schools I attended were quite progressive in their views;
some of the other schools in the area still insisted on "real" pens.


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Re: PESO Moves PhotoShopped

2011-09-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I like the new version better.  The "red stuff" was just too close to
her hand, and a bit of a distraction.

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> I'm turning out a big print order today and had room on the last sheet for an 
> extra 8x 12, so I decided to print yesterday's pic of Grace doing downhill 
> cardboard. So I figured I ought to bite the bullet and clone out the red 
> stuff at lower left in the original.
>
> Here's the new version:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14279752
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> And the original:
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> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14274513
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PESO Moves PhotoShopped

2011-09-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm turning out a big print order today and had room on the last sheet for an 
extra 8x 12, so I decided to print yesterday's pic of Grace doing downhill 
cardboard. So I figured I ought to bite the bullet and clone out the red stuff 
at lower left in the original.

Here's the new version:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14279752

And the original:

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RE: Pentax Sighting at the Strobist

2011-09-25 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> John Sessoms
> 
> Yeah, it's an underwear commercial for a French brand, Athena.
> 
> http://great-ads.blogspot.com/2011/09/athletes-and-ad-agency-crew-get-
> naked.html
> 
> It's a sight gag. It makes sense if you remember the French think Jerry
> Lewis is the greatest comic who ever lived. 

I'm not sure I entirely believe this. Nobody in France has ever told me they
like Jerry Lewis, yet they're forever asking me why I killed Joan of Arc.

Nevertheless, I have just found a book entitled "Why the French love Jerry
Lewis: From Cabaret to Early Cinema"
< http://www.amazon.co.uk/Why-French-Love-Jerry-Lewis/dp/0804738947>

Apparently "Comic performance style drew from a group of nervous disorders
characterized by the psychological automatism emanating from the lower
faculties: nervous reflex, motor impulses, sensation, and instinct."

I'm tempted to buy one of the used copies, but I can't decide whether to
order the one for £1.00 or the one for £280.92.

> The naked pole vaulter is
> supposed to land in the underwear that's there in place of the cross
> bar.
> 
> He'll never make it. Pendulum effects will throw his timing off every
> time.
> 

I think it's rather witty of them to pixelate the pole.

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Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I don't care who said it, it is an ignorant and arrogant comment,
unworthy of a great artist.

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On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> Then the first one up against the wall will be HCB himself.
>
> "The world is going to pieces and Adams and Weston are photographing rocks
> and trees."
> -- Henri Cartier-Bresson
>
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/ansel/filmmore/pt.html
>
> If you didn't wade through the entire thread you likely missed this.
>
> -bmw
>
> On 11-09-24 10:08 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
>>
>> The reason Adams' work seems kitsch is that he defined the genera, and any
>> critic who thinks that social relevance defines "Art" should be taken out
>> and shot immediately.
>>
>> On 9/19/2011 8:42 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>>
>>> Talk about Ansel Adams (see "A door to nowhere" thread) had me searching
>>> for something about a repeated criticism of Ansel Adams that I've run
>>> across: that he's the Normal Rockwell of photogs; that his output is kitsch
>>> rather than art; that his belief in beauty above all rather then social
>>> relevance, left him on the bottom rung of fine arts.
>>>
>>> So I located this excellent essay:
>>>
>>> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/profiles/ansel-adams-but-is-it-art-749574.html
>>>
>>> Criticism of AA seems to boil down to a fashion thing. It seems to be
>>> safe to like Adams again. :)
>>>
>>> -bmw
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Re: PESO: Free Lunch

2011-09-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Tim

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Re: PESO: Happiness is a Warm Kea

2011-09-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very nice expression on Janet's face, very interesting bird, great image!

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On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 2:59 AM, David Mann  wrote:
> My partner Janet took me to Willowbank Wildlife Reserve yesterday as an early 
> birthday present.  It's a small zoo just out of town which is very popular 
> with kids both big and small.
>
> In one section they have a large aviary where you can walk in and roam free 
> with several kea, the world's only alpine parrot, which is endemic to NZ.  
> They're a very curious bird that adapts readily to human activity... and they 
> also have a real knack for pulling things apart so you have to keep a very 
> good eye on them.
>
> http://www.multi.net.nz/kea/
>
> Apologies to Frank for the subject line but his recent kitten photo inspired 
> me to post this :)
>
> I didn't take the K10D so I took it using Janet's little Panasonic compact 
> and gave it a highlights & shadows tweak in Photoshop.
>
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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-25 Thread John Sessoms

From: Steven Desjardins


So what did lefties do before ballpoints?


Refused to testify.  ;-D

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Re: Pentax Sighting at the Strobist

2011-09-25 Thread John Sessoms

Yeah, it's an underwear commercial for a French brand, Athena.

http://great-ads.blogspot.com/2011/09/athletes-and-ad-agency-crew-get-naked.html

It's a sight gag. It makes sense if you remember the French think Jerry 
Lewis is the greatest comic who ever lived. The naked pole vaulter is 
supposed to land in the underwear that's there in place of the cross bar.


He'll never make it. Pendulum effects will throw his timing off every time.

From: Steven Desjardins

I know we are seeing this because of the 6x7, but what was the point
of the video otherwise.  Underwear commercIal?  My french isn't good
enough to tell.

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

On 11-09-25 12:38 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

Pentax 67, (who says film is dead), but lots of Gallic silliness and naked
people. ?NSFW, so you've been warned.


?http://strobist.blogspot.com/2011/09/and-now-your-nsfw-underwear-shoot-bts.html


That's Gallic with an F, btw.



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Re: Pentax Sighting at the Strobist

2011-09-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 25, 2011, at 11:36 AM, David Parsons wrote:

> It's a behind-the-scenes of an underwear shoot.  Supposedly to make
> the models comfortable, everyone else got naked.  It was probably
> released as part of the campaign to promote the photographer as much
> as the client's products.

It got you to look didn't it?


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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 25, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

> I'm not sure about this.  When i was young, there weren't that many
> folks shooting period because film and processing cost money.   Now
> with cell phones and the internet there are an enormous number of
> images being taken.  I'll bet there are at least as many, and I think
> more, young folks taking photography seriously, but they get lost in
> the facebook noise.  Of course, the whole lomography thing really
> confuses what we think of as serious photography.


I can think of a couple of ways to define serious photography.  The first one 
would be someone that not only takes photographs, but who puts time and effort 
into improving their craft, so that they get better at taking the photographs 
that they intend to.  I suspect that most people on this list define serious 
photography as someone who takes photographs that they happen to like.  So for 
one person Adams did serious photography and HCB didn't, and another it's the 
other way around.

Frankly, I think too many people have a big stick up their ass about what 
photos other people take and what they use to take them.  I don't care whether 
Pentax makes some camera that I have no need for, or interest in, I care 
whether they stay in business and make the gear that I want to buy.  If they 
take risks in designing and marketing new systems, it might hurt their bottom 
line, but if they don't take risks, there will be nothing to differentiate them 
and no reason for people to buy their cameras rather than those of the big name 
brands.  And, while you may not think that point and shoots matter, I was 
recently talking to a high schooler who was interested in learning more about 
photography and he told me that he wanted Canon gear because when he used Canon 
point and shoots, they were easier for him to use than Nikon point and shoots.  
So, not only do people make choices on the entry level line based on the 
flagships, they make choices on the luxury line based on the economy models.  I 
suspect that brand loyalty, or at least habit, goes deeper than any of us 
suspect, and a transition path from point and shoot all of the way up to 645D 
is important.


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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-25 Thread Bruce Walker

They were retrained by teachers to be "normal" righties, often with a stick.

On 11-09-25 2:34 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

So what did lefties do before ballpoints?

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 12:22 PM, John Francis  wrote:

I tried writing upside-down for a while.  It was slow, but it
was almost worth it to watch the double takes from the teachers!


On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 09:25:27AM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:

Just learn to write right-to-left or switch to a language (Arabic,
Hebrew) that works that way.


On 11-09-24 10:54 PM, John Francis wrote:

Not if you're left-handed ...

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 06:57:32PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote:

Damn!  I =still= use a fountain pen, every day.  It does the job better than 
anything else.

Rick

--- On Sat, 9/24/11, Larry Colenwrote:


I was one of
those kids that used a fountain pen, just because it was
archaic and different.? If decent digital cameras and
processing had been around when I lost darkroom access,
there wouldn't have been 25 year gap in my serious
shooting.

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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-25 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 25, 2011, at 5:53 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> If I remember my penmanship lessons, from the dark ages when they still 
> taught such things in school, you're not supposed to rest your hand on the 
> paper, so that's no excuse.

When I broke my left thumb "getting off" my motorcycle, or as I refer to it 
among people who practice aikido "impromptu ukemi practice", all of the writing 
I did for a while was with my left hand.  I'm very right handed, and I found 
that it worked best if I just turned the paper upside down.  It was easier for 
me to reverse "near and far" in my brain, than "in and out".  It also had the 
advantage of my being able to see what I wrote.  Using a fountain pen, the ink 
on the previous line would be drier than the ink on the previous word, as your 
hand wiped across it.


> 
> On 9/24/2011 10:54 PM, John Francis wrote:
>> Not if you're left-handed ...
>> 
>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 06:57:32PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote:
>>> Damn!  I =still= use a fountain pen, every day.  It does the job better 
>>> than anything else.

With my handwriting, I find that keyboards work best. That is if I want to be 
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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-25 Thread Rick Womer
They were taught to write without curling the left hand around above the line.  
I know several lefties who use fountain pens.

Rick


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> So what did lefties do before
> ballpoints?
> 
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 12:22 PM, John Francis 
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> >
> > I tried writing upside-down for a while.  It was
> slow, but it
> > was almost worth it to watch the double takes from the
> teachers!
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 09:25:27AM -0400, Bruce Walker
> wrote:
> >> Just learn to write right-to-left or switch to a
> language (Arabic,
> >> Hebrew) that works that way.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11-09-24 10:54 PM, John Francis wrote:
> >> >Not if you're left-handed ...
> >> >
> >> >On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 06:57:32PM -0700, Rick
> Womer wrote:
> >> >>Damn!  I =still= use a fountain pen,
> every day.  It does the job better than anything else.
> >> >>
> >> >>Rick
> >> >>
> >> >>--- On Sat, 9/24/11, Larry Colen
>  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>I was one of
> >> >>>those kids that used a fountain pen,
> just because it was
> >> >>>archaic and different.? If decent
> digital cameras and
> >> >>>processing had been around when I lost
> darkroom access,
> >> >>>there wouldn't have been 25 year gap
> in my serious
> >> >>>shooting.
> >> >>>
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Re: PESO: Happiness is a Warm Kea

2011-09-25 Thread Walter Hamler
Back in my days in NZ while in the Navy I went up a mountain near
Blenheim with friend. He had a Range Rover and I figured we would be
good to go. Well, we got stuck in some deep rotten snow and had to dig
ourselves out. While we were doing so a Kea came up to us and we were
amazed at how tame he/she was, seemingly. It was very curious at
everything we did, even jumping on the shovel as if to help. It never
got aggressive, nor was it a nuisance really, just persistent!


Walt

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> My partner Janet took me to Willowbank Wildlife Reserve yesterday as an early 
> birthday present.  It's a small zoo just out of town which is very popular 
> with kids both big and small.
>
> In one section they have a large aviary where you can walk in and roam free 
> with several kea, the world's only alpine parrot, which is endemic to NZ.  
> They're a very curious bird that adapts readily to human activity... and they 
> also have a real knack for pulling things apart so you have to keep a very 
> good eye on them.
>
> http://www.multi.net.nz/kea/
>
> Apologies to Frank for the subject line but his recent kitten photo inspired 
> me to post this :)
>
> I didn't take the K10D so I took it using Janet's little Panasonic compact 
> and gave it a highlights & shadows tweak in Photoshop.
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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-25 Thread John Sessoms

Press down too hard and tear right through the paper.

From: John Francis


They make left-handed nibs, but that doesn't address the fundamental
problem that as you write, your hand moves across the paper. If you
write with your left hand this means the hand holding the pen smears
the freshly-applied and still wet ink. Ball-point pens (and fine
point ones, at that) solve that problem. On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at

08:46:58AM -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote:


Don't they make left handed fountain pens?

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 10:54 PM, John Francis 
wrote:

Not if you're left-handed ...

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 06:57:32PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote:


Damn! ?I =still= use a fountain pen, every day. ?It does the
job better than anything else.

Rick

--- On Sat, 9/24/11, Larry Colen  wrote:


I was one of those kids that used a fountain pen, just
because it was archaic and different.? If decent digital
cameras and processing had been around when I lost darkroom
access, there wouldn't have been 25 year gap in my serious
shooting.


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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'm not sure about this.  When i was young, there weren't that many
folks shooting period because film and processing cost money.   Now
with cell phones and the internet there are an enormous number of
images being taken.  I'll bet there are at least as many, and I think
more, young folks taking photography seriously, but they get lost in
the facebook noise.  Of course, the whole lomography thing really
confuses what we think of as serious photography.

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 2:36 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> Most of the young people I know are *NOT* doing "serious" shooting. The few
> who are, are using DSLRs or video.
>
> But most people who buy cameras are not "photographers". That seems
> particularly true of young people today. They don't care about the image
> itself, only that it's a picture of them having fun with their friends.
>
>
> From: "P. J. Alling"
>
>> Most of the "young people", I know doing serious shooting are using B&W
>> film in vintage SLRs.
>>
>> On 9/22/2011 1:10 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Tom C

 It doesn't validate it to me. I'm not sure what camera companies are
 thinking, but it seems to be along the lines of  'hey, there's some
 sucker out there that will buy anything if we make it and market it
 right'. It's almost like they're deliberately attempting to insult the
 consumers intelligence. Maybe image quality (IQ) = intelligence
 quotient (IQ).
>>>
>>> Their target market is young people. We're not.
>>>
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Re: Pentax Sighting at the Strobist

2011-09-25 Thread David Parsons
It's a behind-the-scenes of an underwear shoot.  Supposedly to make
the models comfortable, everyone else got naked.  It was probably
released as part of the campaign to promote the photographer as much
as the client's products.

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> I know we are seeing this because of the 6x7, but what was the point
> of the video otherwise.  Underwear commercIal?  My french isn't good
> enough to tell.
>
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> On 11-09-25 12:38 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
>>>
>>> Pentax 67, (who says film is dead), but lots of Gallic silliness and naked
>>> people.  NSFW, so you've been warned.
>>>
>>>
>>>  http://strobist.blogspot.com/2011/09/and-now-your-nsfw-underwear-shoot-bts.html
>>>
>>
>> That's Gallic with an F, btw.
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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-25 Thread John Sessoms
Most of the young people I know are *NOT* doing "serious" shooting. The 
few who are, are using DSLRs or video.


But most people who buy cameras are not "photographers". That seems 
particularly true of young people today. They don't care about the image 
itself, only that it's a picture of them having fun with their friends.



From: "P. J. Alling"


Most of the "young people", I know doing serious shooting are using B&W film in 
vintage SLRs.

On 9/22/2011 1:10 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Tom C

It doesn't validate it to me. I'm not sure what camera companies are
thinking, but it seems to be along the lines of  'hey, there's some
sucker out there that will buy anything if we make it and market it
right'. It's almost like they're deliberately attempting to insult the
consumers intelligence. Maybe image quality (IQ) = intelligence
quotient (IQ).

Their target market is young people. We're not.



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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
So what did lefties do before ballpoints?

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 12:22 PM, John Francis  wrote:
>
> I tried writing upside-down for a while.  It was slow, but it
> was almost worth it to watch the double takes from the teachers!
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 09:25:27AM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:
>> Just learn to write right-to-left or switch to a language (Arabic,
>> Hebrew) that works that way.
>>
>>
>> On 11-09-24 10:54 PM, John Francis wrote:
>> >Not if you're left-handed ...
>> >
>> >On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 06:57:32PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote:
>> >>Damn!  I =still= use a fountain pen, every day.  It does the job better 
>> >>than anything else.
>> >>
>> >>Rick
>> >>
>> >>--- On Sat, 9/24/11, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>I was one of
>> >>>those kids that used a fountain pen, just because it was
>> >>>archaic and different.? If decent digital cameras and
>> >>>processing had been around when I lost darkroom access,
>> >>>there wouldn't have been 25 year gap in my serious
>> >>>shooting.
>> >>>
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>> >>>sent from i4est
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Re: Pentax Sighting at the Strobist

2011-09-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
I know we are seeing this because of the 6x7, but what was the point
of the video otherwise.  Underwear commercIal?  My french isn't good
enough to tell.

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> On 11-09-25 12:38 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
>>
>> Pentax 67, (who says film is dead), but lots of Gallic silliness and naked
>> people.  NSFW, so you've been warned.
>>
>>
>>  http://strobist.blogspot.com/2011/09/and-now-your-nsfw-underwear-shoot-bts.html
>>
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> That's Gallic with an F, btw.
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RE: I may have hosed myself: dilemma of a PS novice

2011-09-25 Thread John Sessoms

From: "Collin Brendemuehl"


Shot a bunch of pics in RAW at a campout a few weeks ago.
But I may have changed the colorspace or something.
Now PSElements will not load them.
What can be done?


Did you open them in PSElements and do something to them and now can't 
open them again?


Or do you mean you haven't been able to open them in PSElements at all?

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Re: Pentax Sighting at the Strobist

2011-09-25 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-09-25 12:38 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Pentax 67, (who says film is dead), but lots of Gallic silliness and 
naked people.  NSFW, so you've been warned.


 http://strobist.blogspot.com/2011/09/and-now-your-nsfw-underwear-shoot-bts.html 





That's Gallic with an F, btw.


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PESO 2011 - 129 - GDG

2011-09-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
A diptych for your entertainment.

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6182139782/in/photostream/lightbox/
or
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6182139782/in/photostream/

Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated. 

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Re: Pentax Sighting at the Strobist

2011-09-25 Thread P. J. Alling

Even more apparent at 1:41

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PDML/PESO%20--%20Pentax%2067%20and%20naked%20french%20photographer2.html

On 9/25/2011 12:57 PM, David Parsons wrote:

I saw that the other day but couldn't tell if it was actually Pentax.

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 12:38 PM, P. J. Alling
  wrote:

Pentax 67, (who says film is dead), but lots of Gallic silliness and naked
people.  NSFW, so you've been warned.

  
http://strobist.blogspot.com/2011/09/and-now-your-nsfw-underwear-shoot-bts.html

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Re: PESO - Exhibits

2011-09-25 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Dave.  I spent about 15 minutes on that balcony and took a couple dozen 
shots at various shutter speeds.  This was the only one that was adequately 
sharp, and had colorful people moving in the right places.

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> Subject: Re: PESO - Exhibits
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> I like the contrast between moving
> and stationary subjects
> 
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> 
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Rick Womer 
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> minimize my time in them.
> >
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Re: Pentax Sighting at the Strobist

2011-09-25 Thread P. J. Alling

At 1:33 into the clip it's pretty unmistakable.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PDML/PESO%20--%20Pentax%2067%20and%20naked%20french%20photographer.html

On 9/25/2011 12:57 PM, David Parsons wrote:

I saw that the other day but couldn't tell if it was actually Pentax.

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  wrote:

Pentax 67, (who says film is dead), but lots of Gallic silliness and naked
people.  NSFW, so you've been warned.

  
http://strobist.blogspot.com/2011/09/and-now-your-nsfw-underwear-shoot-bts.html

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Re: PESO - Swirl

2011-09-25 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks, Tim!

Rick

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PESO 2011 - 128 - GDG

2011-09-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Another zone plate image from the same day as the last:

  
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Re: Pentax Sighting at the Strobist

2011-09-25 Thread David Parsons
I saw that the other day but couldn't tell if it was actually Pentax.

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 12:38 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> Pentax 67, (who says film is dead), but lots of Gallic silliness and naked
> people.  NSFW, so you've been warned.
>
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Pentax Sighting at the Strobist

2011-09-25 Thread P. J. Alling
Pentax 67, (who says film is dead), but lots of Gallic silliness and 
naked people.  NSFW, so you've been warned.


 http://strobist.blogspot.com/2011/09/and-now-your-nsfw-underwear-shoot-bts.html

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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-25 Thread John Francis

I tried writing upside-down for a while.  It was slow, but it
was almost worth it to watch the double takes from the teachers!


On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 09:25:27AM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:
> Just learn to write right-to-left or switch to a language (Arabic,
> Hebrew) that works that way.
> 
> 
> On 11-09-24 10:54 PM, John Francis wrote:
> >Not if you're left-handed ...
> >
> >On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 06:57:32PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote:
> >>Damn!  I =still= use a fountain pen, every day.  It does the job better 
> >>than anything else.
> >>
> >>Rick
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> >>
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> >>>those kids that used a fountain pen, just because it was
> >>>archaic and different.? If decent digital cameras and
> >>>processing had been around when I lost darkroom access,
> >>>there wouldn't have been 25 year gap in my serious
> >>>shooting.
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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-25 Thread John Francis

They make left-handed nibs, but that doesn't address the fundamental
problem that as you write, your hand moves across the paper. If you
write with your left hand this means the hand holding the pen smears
the freshly-applied and still wet ink.

Ball-point pens (and fine point ones, at that) solve that problem.



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> Don't they make left handed fountain pens?
> 
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 10:54 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> >
> > Not if you're left-handed ...
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 06:57:32PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote:
> >> Damn! ?I =still= use a fountain pen, every day. ?It does the job better 
> >> than anything else.
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >> > processing had been around when I lost darkroom access,
> >> > there wouldn't have been 25 year gap in my serious
> >> > shooting.
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Re: PESO 2011 - 127 - GDG

2011-09-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thanks Bob!

I've done that before too, but I'd never made a zone plate that way
which worked particularly well. The Skink setup is a kit with a
nicely-made, machined carrier for pinhole/zone plate disks. The disks
surrounding the refracting aperture make them easy to handle and
protect them from damage.


On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Bob W  wrote:
> That has a nice old-fashioned feel. I made a pinhole by making a small hole
> in a body cap - produced pretty decent results.
>
> Bob
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>> Godfrey DiGiorgi
>> Sent: 25 September 2011 17:05
>> To: DUG; PAW Picture-A-Week project; SeePhoto Talk; PDML List;
>> BAPhotoShooters
>> Subject: PESO 2011 - 127 - GDG
>>
>> Something different (again). I've wanted to try some pinhole and zone
>> plate photography, found a "Skink pinhole kit" in Leica thread and
>> bayonet mount with pinhole and two zone plates for $90. It arrived a
>> week and some ago; I fitted the f/47 zone plate to the M4-2 body and
>> loaded up a roll of Ilford XP2 Super for last Saturday's morning walk.
>> All exposures were in the range of 1/15 to 1/2 second.
>>
>>   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6180399270/in/set-
>> 72157625672485865/lightbox/
>> or
>>   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6180399270/in/set-
>> 72157625672485865/
>>
>> Thanks for looking, comments appreciated!
>>
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PESO: Percussion

2011-09-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=141

Comments and criticisms are invited.

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RE: PESO 2011 - 127 - GDG

2011-09-25 Thread Bob W
That has a nice old-fashioned feel. I made a pinhole by making a small hole
in a body cap - produced pretty decent results.

Bob

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: 25 September 2011 17:05
> To: DUG; PAW Picture-A-Week project; SeePhoto Talk; PDML List;
> BAPhotoShooters
> Subject: PESO 2011 - 127 - GDG
> 
> Something different (again). I've wanted to try some pinhole and zone
> plate photography, found a "Skink pinhole kit" in Leica thread and
> bayonet mount with pinhole and two zone plates for $90. It arrived a
> week and some ago; I fitted the f/47 zone plate to the M4-2 body and
> loaded up a roll of Ilford XP2 Super for last Saturday's morning walk.
> All exposures were in the range of 1/15 to 1/2 second.
> 
>   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6180399270/in/set-
> 72157625672485865/lightbox/
> or
>   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6180399270/in/set-
> 72157625672485865/
> 
> Thanks for looking, comments appreciated!
> 
> Godfrey
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PESO 2011 - 127 - GDG

2011-09-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Something different (again). I've wanted to try some pinhole and zone plate 
photography, found a "Skink pinhole kit" in Leica thread and bayonet mount with 
pinhole and two zone plates for $90. It arrived a week and some ago; I fitted 
the f/47 zone plate to the M4-2 body and loaded up a roll of Ilford XP2 Super 
for last Saturday's morning walk. All exposures were in the range of 1/15 to 
1/2 second. 

  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6180399270/in/set-72157625672485865/lightbox/
or 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/6180399270/in/set-72157625672485865/

Thanks for looking, comments appreciated! 

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Re: PESO: Two sheep

2011-09-25 Thread Tim Øsleby
Here is mine
http://www.photosight.org/photo.php?photoid=34389&ref=author

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Stan's nephew's band (Blog and GESOs)

2011-09-25 Thread Chris Mitchell
I saw Richmond Fontaine last night in Bedford and very good it was
too. The band were happy for me to take photos and I had long chats
with Dave (said nephew) and the music was good.

Support was provided by Laura Gibson and she was good too - if a
little quirky (but I like quirky).

Blog with 2 pictures here:
http://chrismphotouk.blogspot.com

Follow the links to the GESOs.

As ever, lighting was challenging - Richmond Fontaine insisted on only
red lights with a little white fill so the good old B&W conversion
comes into play quite a bit.

Thanks to Stan for making me aware of the gig - an indication of the
diverse range of things that we can get involved with as a result of
being PDMLers...

Chris

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Re: PESO - Swirl

2011-09-25 Thread Tim Øsleby
I really like the tonality and texture of the first abstract.

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Re: PESO: Free Lunch

2011-09-25 Thread Tim Øsleby
I likes Free lunch.

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Re: OT Knock knock.

2011-09-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
Well done! Congratulations.
Paul


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RE: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-25 Thread Bob W
Leonardo da Vinci invented one, but it was lost to the world because he
smudged the drawing.

> 
> Don't they make left handed fountain pens?
> 
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 10:54 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> >
> > Not if you're left-handed ...
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 06:57:32PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote:
> >> Damn!  I =still= use a fountain pen, every day.  It does the job
> better than anything else.
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >> --- On Sat, 9/24/11, Larry Colen  wrote:
> >>
> >> > I was one of
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> >> > archaic and different.? If decent digital cameras and
> >> > processing had been around when I lost darkroom access,
> >> > there wouldn't have been 25 year gap in my serious
> >> > shooting.
> >> >
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RE: OT Knock knock.

2011-09-25 Thread Bob W
> 
> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
> 
> 98% complete. Some minor trim and paint. its been a long tiring 2
> months but worth it. I learned a lot. Watching all of those home reno
> shows paid off.LOL
> 
> Dave

Well done. I think we've all been on a journey together. There's been
laughter, there's been tears. There's been drunken rages, but most of all
there's been sheds.

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Re: OT Knock knock.

2011-09-25 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> On 11-09-25 8:22 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
>>
>> 98% complete. Some minor trim and paint. its been a long tiring 2
>> months but worth it. I learned a lot. Watching all of those home reno
>> shows paid off.LOL

crime is up, other wize a 1x1 would suffice.:-)

Dave
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
> It looks great, Dave.
>
> You are very fortunate living in a part of the world where a short piece of
> 1x2 is a sufficient lock. :-)
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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-25 Thread Bruce Walker
Just learn to write right-to-left or switch to a language (Arabic, 
Hebrew) that works that way.



On 11-09-24 10:54 PM, John Francis wrote:

Not if you're left-handed ...

On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 06:57:32PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote:

Damn!  I =still= use a fountain pen, every day.  It does the job better than 
anything else.

Rick

--- On Sat, 9/24/11, Larry Colen  wrote:


I was one of
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Re: OT Knock knock.

2011-09-25 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-09-25 8:22 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/

98% complete. Some minor trim and paint. its been a long tiring 2
months but worth it. I learned a lot. Watching all of those home reno
shows paid off.LOL

Dave



It looks great, Dave.

You are very fortunate living in a part of the world where a short piece 
of 1x2 is a sufficient lock. :-)


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Re: OT Knock knock.

2011-09-25 Thread Drew

On 25/09/11 13:22, David J Brooks wrote:

http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/

98% complete. Some minor trim and paint. its been a long tiring 2
months but worth it. I learned a lot. Watching all of those home reno
shows paid off.LOL

Dave


Looks good, Norm Abram would be proud!

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