Re: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG
On 24 January 2012 07:36, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: I took the M9 up to Alameda for a photo walk at the USS Hornet on Sunday. It was really the wrong camera for the task, but I wanted to get to know it better and push myself a bit. Quickie output ... thirty five photos in this set: http://gallery.me.com/godders#100435 Hope you enjoy! Godfrey Nice set. Proves the old adage the best camera is the one you've got with you. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Sv: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG
Hello Godfrey, I am a long-time lurker on PDML and rarely write anything, but when I saw this very fine GESO I immediately thought that there would be interest for it on a history discussion forum I participate in. Very nice photos and double interest, both history and a nice ship (there are some real naval nerds). Would you mind if I post a link to your GESO on it (forum.skalman.nu)? Thanks anyway for a nice GESO, I did enjoy it! Best regards, Jörgen Ursprungligt meddelande Från: ramar...@mac.com Datum: 2012-01-24 08:36 Till: SeePhoto Talkseeph...@micapeak.com, PAW Picture-A-Week project p...@micapeak.com, BAPhotoShooters BAPAbaphotoshoot...@yahoogroups.com, PDML ListPDML@pdml.net Ärende: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG I took the M9 up to Alameda for a photo walk at the USS Hornet on Sunday. It was really the wrong camera for the task, but I wanted to get to know it better and push myself a bit. Quickie output ... thirty five photos in this set: http://gallery.me.com/godders#100435 Hope you enjoy! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Some sellers ...
I was watching a KEH-listed FA 35/2 @ $399. The ad ended, but they relisted it @ $429. Strange. At least the relist has a make offer on it. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?
Body styling is obviously an important part of how a camera works since you have to hold it to use it. I'm not a fan of retro per se as much as I'm not a fan of modern styling for the sake of being different. Body styling also affects compactness as a dove bar will slide in your pocket whereas something with a big grip is easy to hold. I also like manual controls. One person's styling is often another person's function. However, I will put up with a lot if the IQ is really good. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:03 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: An exciting new camera is of more than passing interest to this group because (and this is just my unscientific opinion) many here are photographers first, Pentaxians second. That is evidenced by the fact that so many own other brands along with their Pentaxes; some have even discarded their Pentaxes ~in toto~ and remain on the list for reasons other than their loyalty to the brand. You of all people, Godfrey, who look beyond Pentax to satisfy your photographic needs, will understand that. If there's one thing that I've always liked about this list it's the love/hate relationship that so many seem to have with Pentax. No blindly spewing the company line, no my camera maker right or wrong, it's more like, here's what I want and if you don't make it I'll still love you but I will go elsewhere. There are very few measurebaters compared to other places; we're just people who like taking pictures, on whatever equipment is out there that suits our needs. That, I suppose, is why the latest Oly is of more than passing interest. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com Sent: January 23, 2012 1/23/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net snip I don't know why speculation about an Olympus camera would be of more than just passing interest for the Pentax community, however. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: We don't need no steenking beach chairs
That's great. They look pretty happy about it as well. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Two young women dug into the sand to make their own beach chairs: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15039016 Comments and criticisms invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?
As for Olympus, I've noticed that many folks who use mu43 are current or former Pentax users. The most obvious overlap is a preference for small SLRs. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Body styling is obviously an important part of how a camera works since you have to hold it to use it. I'm not a fan of retro per se as much as I'm not a fan of modern styling for the sake of being different. Body styling also affects compactness as a dove bar will slide in your pocket whereas something with a big grip is easy to hold. I also like manual controls. One person's styling is often another person's function. However, I will put up with a lot if the IQ is really good. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:03 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: An exciting new camera is of more than passing interest to this group because (and this is just my unscientific opinion) many here are photographers first, Pentaxians second. That is evidenced by the fact that so many own other brands along with their Pentaxes; some have even discarded their Pentaxes ~in toto~ and remain on the list for reasons other than their loyalty to the brand. You of all people, Godfrey, who look beyond Pentax to satisfy your photographic needs, will understand that. If there's one thing that I've always liked about this list it's the love/hate relationship that so many seem to have with Pentax. No blindly spewing the company line, no my camera maker right or wrong, it's more like, here's what I want and if you don't make it I'll still love you but I will go elsewhere. There are very few measurebaters compared to other places; we're just people who like taking pictures, on whatever equipment is out there that suits our needs. That, I suppose, is why the latest Oly is of more than passing interest. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com Sent: January 23, 2012 1/23/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net snip I don't know why speculation about an Olympus camera would be of more than just passing interest for the Pentax community, however. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: largest digital camera in the world
Perhaps of passing interest to the group is the largest digital camera in the world: The Pan-STARRS http://pan-starrs.ifa.hawaii.edu/public/ This is of interest (at least to me) on a couple of levels. 1) it uses over a Gigabyte of pixels in a sensor octagonal sensor array (corners unimportant since the quality of the image circle is lacking there) They call it a 64x64 sensor array, but it is not square. http://pan-starrs.ifa.hawaii.edu/public/design-features/cameras.html 2) it has discovered a comet (way way out) that may be our next Hale-Bopp in 2013. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/06/110622-new-comet-found-2013-visible-space-science/ Not a lot has been written about the comet since its orbit was determined, and it will probably be fine-tuned. However the JPL Horizons prediction is that it will be brightest between March 8-12, 2013 with a magnitude near -0.5. (about the brightness of Arcturus... one of the night sky's guideposts). This will be it's one and only trip through the solar system as it rounds the sun and get's tossed out. Enter C/2011 L4 in the search box of the Small Objects Database browser http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi and then click Orbit Diagram and you can play its orbit forward and backwards (zooming in and out, as necessary). Java required to use the Small Objects Database browser. I've long wondered what would prevent camera manufacturers from using sensor arrays instead of single larger sensors. I imagine that it is possible, but would require so much more from the image processing engine (along with added complexities of bus channel management, writing to card, etc.) that it just isn't worth it on a small scale, when compared to using a single larger sensor. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: largest digital camera in the world
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I've long wondered what would prevent camera manufacturers from using sensor arrays instead of single larger sensors. For one thing, there's gaps between sensors due to the sensor packaging. It's not a big deal for most astronomical applications, because you typically combine multiple exposures, and offset the telescope slightly between exposures to fill in the gaps. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: All you WORK are belong to us! (Apple)
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On 1/23/2012 9:26 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: It's a business decision akin to signing a book contract with a publisher on an exclusive basis, with the added bonus in that if you don't want to sell your work, you can distribute it freely without Apple's involvement at all, and you can transform it into a more industry generic form and still sell it any other way you wish. I read it that even if you transform it into an industry generic form, if you used iBook author, you still have to sell it through the iBookstore. Your notion seems to be in direct contradiction to this portion of the EULA: B. Distribution of your Work. As a condition of this License and provided you are in compliance with its terms, your Work may be distributed as follows: (i) if your Work is provided for free (at no charge), you may distribute the Work by any available means; ... However if you wish to SELL your work, you may only sell it through the iStore and only if Apple chooses your work to be sold. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: We don't need no steenking beach chairs
good one dave On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Two young women dug into the sand to make their own beach chairs: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15039016 Comments and criticisms invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG
Very enjoyable set. Dave On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:36 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: I took the M9 up to Alameda for a photo walk at the USS Hornet on Sunday. It was really the wrong camera for the task, but I wanted to get to know it better and push myself a bit. Quickie output ... thirty five photos in this set: http://gallery.me.com/godders#100435 Hope you enjoy! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG
Sure, no problem Jörgen! Thank you for the compliment. Godfrey On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:13 AM, jb.l...@telia.com jb.l...@telia.com wrote: Hello Godfrey, I am a long-time lurker on PDML and rarely write anything, but when I saw this very fine GESO I immediately thought that there would be interest for it on a history discussion forum I participate in. Very nice photos and double interest, both history and a nice ship (there are some real naval nerds). Would you mind if I post a link to your GESO on it (forum.skalman.nu)? Thanks anyway for a nice GESO, I did enjoy it! Best regards, Jörgen Ursprungligt meddelande Från: ramar...@mac.com Datum: 2012-01-24 08:36 Till: SeePhoto Talkseeph...@micapeak.com, PAW Picture-A-Week project p...@micapeak.com, BAPhotoShooters BAPAbaphotoshoot...@yahoogroups.com, PDML ListPDML@pdml.net Ärende: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG I took the M9 up to Alameda for a photo walk at the USS Hornet on Sunday. It was really the wrong camera for the task, but I wanted to get to know it better and push myself a bit. Quickie output ... thirty five photos in this set: http://gallery.me.com/godders#100435 Hope you enjoy! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Stouffville camera club
Hey gang. Well i signed up over the holidays. First meeting was two weeks ago just as an intro and to see what level(s) every one was at, and what people wanted ot learn and do. We are a group of eight, the group of seven has already been done, with every one but myself and the president owner of the group as pretty much raw newbies. Every one wanted to learn how to get out of auto mode and use the cameras they have at full potential, which was good to hear. We have a dedicated website hosted by a company that specializes in camera clubs so we can do galleries contests etc. http://www.stouffvillecameraclub.ca/ I will be helping out with the monthly discussions and learning cureves with the other members, so that is kinda exciting., Several walks and hikes are being schedules to practice what Ken and i preach. So far so good i'd say. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
first images @ work
Lighting is Interfit CoolLite 6 on a white table. This one uses the on-camera flash for fill as it is a darker unit. http://www.brendemuehl.net/IMGP6653r.jpg This one has a little reflection glare that is not a real problem, but I'm still going to get control of it. http://www.brendemuehl.net/IMGP6655r.jpg Here I used a polarizer. The loss of glare is good, but it needs more light. I'll try going to a longer shutter speed. http://www.brendemuehl.net/IMGP6649r.jpg Still a few adjustments to make. But overall it is coming along just fine. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fun with 100mm
Thanks for reminding me. I still have to test my FA 100 macro on the K-5. dave On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote: So, here's how to have some fun at a social gathering or business meeting. Take your K-5 along, (or some other camera, if there is one, that combines unobtrusiveness, image stabilization, and is happy up to ISO3200). Mount a 100mm prime on it, e.g. the D-FA 100mm or the fancy new WR; once again, small and unobtrusive win. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stouffville camera club
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:00:19 -0500 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: I will be helping out with the monthly discussions and learning cureves with the other members, so that is kinda exciting., Several walks and hikes are being schedules to practice what Ken and i preach. So far so good i'd say. Dave Hi my name is bran and i am a social media addict. either that or it is morning. I was looking for some form of a button to click to indicate my approval for this message. While I have never become a good photographer I have learnt how it should work and love sharing that with people. In many ways I should have taught as a profession but have very much enjoyed it as a secondary hobby along the way. Have much fun. Bran -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax Forums, looking for all images by a certain lens
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com: Hi all, I know the Pentax Forum site is strictly verboten, but does anyone know how to search for images by a certain lens? I think I saw an email recently saying that you could find all photos by lex X for example. I don't know if you can do this in Pentax Forums but you can in the Pentax Photo Gallery. I case you don't know about this feature, go to the PPG, and select 'Cameras and Lenses' from the top right. I thought I was thinking PF, but maybe I was really thinking PPG. Thanks for that pointer! (Not that I have any business browser photos by lens as I lack both time and money!). --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: largest digital camera in the world
On Jan 24, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I've long wondered what would prevent camera manufacturers from using sensor arrays instead of single larger sensors. For one thing, there's gaps between sensors due to the sensor packaging. It's not a big deal for most astronomical applications, because you typically combine multiple exposures, and offset the telescope slightly between exposures to fill in the gaps. Sensor arrays are used on large format backs. I watched a shooter work with a 4 x 5 camera and a digital back tethered to a computer. The complete image, without gaps, resolved almost immediately on the monitor screen. I don't know if the back was gap free or if software corrections were made. But the results were outstanding. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: largest digital camera in the world
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Sensor arrays are used on large format backs. I watched a shooter work with a 4 x 5 camera and a digital back tethered to a computer. The complete image, without gaps, resolved almost immediately on the monitor screen. I don't know if the back was gap free or if software corrections were made. But the results were outstanding. You're sure it was a mosaic of sensors, and not a scanning back? It's possible that someone's come up with gapless packaging for sensors, but in the photographs of the Pan-STARRS focal plane, you can see the blind margin at each edge of the chips. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG
Nice collection of images. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com Subject: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG I took the M9 up to Alameda for a photo walk at the USS Hornet on Sunday. It was really the wrong camera for the task, but I wanted to get to know it better and push myself a bit. Quickie output ... thirty five photos in this set: http://gallery.me.com/godders#100435 Hope you enjoy! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: largest digital camera in the world
On Jan 24, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Sensor arrays are used on large format backs. I watched a shooter work with a 4 x 5 camera and a digital back tethered to a computer. The complete image, without gaps, resolved almost immediately on the monitor screen. I don't know if the back was gap free or if software corrections were made. But the results were outstanding. You're sure it was a mosaic of sensors, and not a scanning back? Yes, the shooter told me it was a four-sensor array. This was about a dozen years ago. We were shooting a Dodge Nascar vehicle in a Michigan studio. It's possible that someone's come up with gapless packaging for sensors, but in the photographs of the Pan-STARRS focal plane, you can see the blind margin at each edge of the chips. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Steve jobs-looked-to-reinvent-apples-iphone-photography
My son keeps amazing me with what he's able to do with his i-phone and the photo apps he has. He sent me this and I thought some on the list might enjoy. http://9to5mac.com/2012/01/23/steve-jobs-looked-to-reinvent-apples-iphone-photography-with-instant-capture-system-advanced-light-field-sensors/ Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: largest digital camera in the world
Based on the year that this was done, it must have been what they call a multiple-exposure single-shot back, generating one image each for RGB. I think I remember the shooter telling me that it was an array, but I can't find any evidence to support the existence of such a back at that point in history. On Jan 24, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Jan 24, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Sensor arrays are used on large format backs. I watched a shooter work with a 4 x 5 camera and a digital back tethered to a computer. The complete image, without gaps, resolved almost immediately on the monitor screen. I don't know if the back was gap free or if software corrections were made. But the results were outstanding. You're sure it was a mosaic of sensors, and not a scanning back? Yes, the shooter told me it was a four-sensor array. This was about a dozen years ago. We were shooting a Dodge Nascar vehicle in a Michigan studio. It's possible that someone's come up with gapless packaging for sensors, but in the photographs of the Pan-STARRS focal plane, you can see the blind margin at each edge of the chips. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG
What Ken said. Focusing on details served you well. Paul On Jan 24, 2012, at 11:16 AM, kwal...@peoplepc.com kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Nice collection of images. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com Subject: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG I took the M9 up to Alameda for a photo walk at the USS Hornet on Sunday. It was really the wrong camera for the task, but I wanted to get to know it better and push myself a bit. Quickie output ... thirty five photos in this set: http://gallery.me.com/godders#100435 Hope you enjoy! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Back Alley
Thanks, Steve! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: steve harley p...@paper-ape.com Sent: January 23, 2012 1/23/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Back Alley on 2012-01-22 19:40 frank theriault wrote We got a dusting of snow on the weekend, too. Maybe the second or third light snowfall this year, only an inch or so fell, but it was nice. Taken on Friday night during the gentle snowfall: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2012/01/back-alley.html i really like it; i see the person helplessly deposited into a great oppositional dance of light (freedom) and dark (constraint) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: first images @ work
Looking very good, Collin, especially #3. But if that's a white table your subjects are parked on, these are all quite underexposed. Have you a meter? On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: Lighting is Interfit CoolLite 6 on a white table. This one uses the on-camera flash for fill as it is a darker unit. http://www.brendemuehl.net/IMGP6653r.jpg This one has a little reflection glare that is not a real problem, but I'm still going to get control of it. http://www.brendemuehl.net/IMGP6655r.jpg Here I used a polarizer. The loss of glare is good, but it needs more light. I'll try going to a longer shutter speed. http://www.brendemuehl.net/IMGP6649r.jpg Still a few adjustments to make. But overall it is coming along just fine. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Wind Farm
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15039215 Comments and criticisms are appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Back Alley
Thanks Brian. That's very kind of you. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org Sent: January 23, 2012 1/23/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Back Alley Quoting frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com: We got a dusting of snow on the weekend, too. Maybe the second or third light snowfall this year, only an inch or so fell, but it was nice. Taken on Friday night during the gentle snowfall: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2012/01/back-alley.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. One of your recent best. The person walking, although small in the frame, adds a bit of extra 'mood' to the shot. Excellent! -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: largest digital camera in the world
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:18:39AM -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Jan 24, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Sensor arrays are used on large format backs. I watched a shooter work with a 4 x 5 camera and a digital back tethered to a computer. The complete image, without gaps, resolved almost immediately on the monitor screen. I don't know if the back was gap free or if software corrections were made. But the results were outstanding. You're sure it was a mosaic of sensors, and not a scanning back? Yes, the shooter told me it was a four-sensor array. This was about a dozen years ago. We were shooting a Dodge Nascar vehicle in a Michigan studio. I've heard of these - that's mostly a mechanical (or cost) limitation. It's all but impossible to make a reasonanbly defect-free sensor above a certain size (although the limiting size changes with the technology). But it is possible to design a sensor so that all the connections, c. are made along one or two edges, with only a very thin gap between the edge of the package and the actual sensor cells on the other two edges. That means you can combine four sensors into a larger composite unit. This is almost as good as a single sensor of the same size, but has the advantage that it's a whole lot cheaper. For example, I think the sensor used in the 645D was initially priced at around $1000. That means you could probably make a four-sensor array of comparable chips for somewhere around $5000. I'd expect a single sensor design to be at least an order of magnitude more expensive, simply due to the mathematics of yield rate in chip manufacture. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: All you WORK are belong to us! (Apple)
On 1/24/2012 9:34 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Godfrey DiGiorgi On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On 1/23/2012 9:26 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: It's a business decision akin to signing a book contract with a publisher on an exclusive basis, with the added bonus in that if you don't want to sell your work, you can distribute it freely without Apple's involvement at all, and you can transform it into a more industry generic form and still sell it any other way you wish. I read it that even if you transform it into an industry generic form, if you used iBook author, you still have to sell it through the iBookstore. Your notion seems to be in direct contradiction to this portion of the EULA: B. Distribution of your Work. As a condition of this License and provided you are in compliance with its terms, your Work may be distributed as follows: (i) if your Work is provided for free (at no charge), you may distribute the Work by any available means; ... However if you wish to SELL your work, you may only sell it through the iStore and only if Apple chooses your work to be sold. They're taking the prerogatives of a publisher without doing any of the work. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: largest digital camera in the world
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:54 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: But it is possible to design a sensor so that all the connections, c. are made along one or two edges, with only a very thin gap between the edge of the package and the actual sensor cells on the other two edges. That means you can combine four sensors into a larger composite unit. To give a sense of the numbers, I worked on a 6-CCD mosaic imaging camera at Palomar Observatory. The CCDs were arranged as you describe, with the readout edges at the periphery, not between chips, to minimize the gap. The effective gap between chips was about 80 pixels, each pixel being 15 microns. This instrument was built around 1998-99, so improvements to the packaging may have slimmed down that gap in newer designs. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?
For me the styling is unimportant. Retro that works is controls and ergonomics. Since it's a m43 camera I doubt it will allow the use of legacy lenses better than any other m43 system camera so I'm not particularly excited. I don't own any OM-Zuiko glass anyway, but many were outstanding lenses. I have friends who have OM systems, and they are a bit disappointed that Olympus didn't make as much effort as Pentax did to keep their old lenses compatible. Most have moved on to low to mid level Canons... Using my existing lens kit is much more important than what the camera looks like. Right now I have a system that can use every single bit of legacy gl\ass I own. If you want retro for retro sake, look at the Epson RD-1, now that's retro, even more so than the Leica M-9. On 1/24/2012 7:48 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: As for Olympus, I've noticed that many folks who use mu43 are current or former Pentax users. The most obvious overlap is a preference for small SLRs. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Steven Desjardinsdrd1...@gmail.com wrote: Body styling is obviously an important part of how a camera works since you have to hold it to use it. I'm not a fan of retro per se as much as I'm not a fan of modern styling for the sake of being different. Body styling also affects compactness as a dove bar will slide in your pocket whereas something with a big grip is easy to hold. I also like manual controls. One person's styling is often another person's function. However, I will put up with a lot if the IQ is really good. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:03 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: An exciting new camera is of more than passing interest to this group because (and this is just my unscientific opinion) many here are photographers first, Pentaxians second. That is evidenced by the fact that so many own other brands along with their Pentaxes; some have even discarded their Pentaxes ~in toto~ and remain on the list for reasons other than their loyalty to the brand. You of all people, Godfrey, who look beyond Pentax to satisfy your photographic needs, will understand that. If there's one thing that I've always liked about this list it's the love/hate relationship that so many seem to have with Pentax. No blindly spewing the company line, no my camera maker right or wrong, it's more like, here's what I want and if you don't make it I'll still love you but I will go elsewhere. There are very few measurebaters compared to other places; we're just people who like taking pictures, on whatever equipment is out there that suits our needs. That, I suppose, is why the latest Oly is of more than passing interest. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Godfrey DiGiorgigdigio...@gmail.com Sent: January 23, 2012 1/23/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net snip I don't know why speculation about an Olympus camera would be of more than just passing interest for the Pentax community, however. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Some sellers ...
Makes me wish I'd bought one when BH had them new at $299. On 1/24/2012 6:58 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I was watching a KEH-listed FA 35/2 @ $399. The ad ended, but they relisted it @ $429. Strange. At least the relist has a make offer on it. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?
Agreed. I like my old cameras because the controls worked so well. The presence of automatic modes makes these controls an afterthought, and this becomes clear when you use the camera. Most shots work fine on auto but that actually makes it worse. You don't' use the manual controls as often, and when needed it's hard to react quickly. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:29 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: For me the styling is unimportant. Retro that works is controls and ergonomics. Since it's a m43 camera I doubt it will allow the use of legacy lenses better than any other m43 system camera so I'm not particularly excited. I don't own any OM-Zuiko glass anyway, but many were outstanding lenses. I have friends who have OM systems, and they are a bit disappointed that Olympus didn't make as much effort as Pentax did to keep their old lenses compatible. Most have moved on to low to mid level Canons... Using my existing lens kit is much more important than what the camera looks like. Right now I have a system that can use every single bit of legacy gl\ass I own. If you want retro for retro sake, look at the Epson RD-1, now that's retro, even more so than the Leica M-9. On 1/24/2012 7:48 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: As for Olympus, I've noticed that many folks who use mu43 are current or former Pentax users. The most obvious overlap is a preference for small SLRs. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Steven Desjardinsdrd1...@gmail.com wrote: Body styling is obviously an important part of how a camera works since you have to hold it to use it. I'm not a fan of retro per se as much as I'm not a fan of modern styling for the sake of being different. Body styling also affects compactness as a dove bar will slide in your pocket whereas something with a big grip is easy to hold. I also like manual controls. One person's styling is often another person's function. However, I will put up with a lot if the IQ is really good. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:03 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: An exciting new camera is of more than passing interest to this group because (and this is just my unscientific opinion) many here are photographers first, Pentaxians second. That is evidenced by the fact that so many own other brands along with their Pentaxes; some have even discarded their Pentaxes ~in toto~ and remain on the list for reasons other than their loyalty to the brand. You of all people, Godfrey, who look beyond Pentax to satisfy your photographic needs, will understand that. If there's one thing that I've always liked about this list it's the love/hate relationship that so many seem to have with Pentax. No blindly spewing the company line, no my camera maker right or wrong, it's more like, here's what I want and if you don't make it I'll still love you but I will go elsewhere. There are very few measurebaters compared to other places; we're just people who like taking pictures, on whatever equipment is out there that suits our needs. That, I suppose, is why the latest Oly is of more than passing interest. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Godfrey DiGiorgigdigio...@gmail.com Sent: January 23, 2012 1/23/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net snip I don't know why speculation about an Olympus camera would be of more than just passing interest for the Pentax community, however. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Some sellers ...
Amen, brother. Easily the dumbest lens non-purchase I ever made. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:31 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Makes me wish I'd bought one when BH had them new at $299. On 1/24/2012 6:58 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: I was watching a KEH-listed FA 35/2 @ $399. The ad ended, but they relisted it @ $429. Strange. At least the relist has a make offer on it. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: We don't need no steenking beach chairs
Thanks, Steve. They were happy and proud, and loved it that I wanted to take a photo of their entrenchment. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: That's great. They look pretty happy about it as well. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Two young women dug into the sand to make their own beach chairs: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15039016 Comments and criticisms invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: We don't need no steenking beach chairs
Thanks, Dave. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:53 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: good one dave On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Two young women dug into the sand to make their own beach chairs: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15039016 Comments and criticisms invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: first images @ work
Looking very good, Collin, especially #3. But if that's a white table your subjects are parked on, these are all quite underexposed. Have you a meter? That very subject is detailed in the book I mentioned earlier. I don't need the white table to come out white, but the unit to be exposed properly. Then I can magic-wand cut the table out. It works really well. I am going to give a try with a digital PL as they do allow more light to pass. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: All you WORK are belong to us! (Apple)
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:08 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: They're taking the prerogatives of a publisher without doing any of the work. As I mentioned previously, the iBookstore team curates, tests, promotes and distributes submissions offered for sale. They also run the accounting, handle customer payments, and delivers income to authors. That is the basis of the fees charged per item sold. What other work do you expect the iBookstore team to do for their $0.30 on the dollar? Oh yes: Unlike a publisher, they don't vet whether your book is salable, supply advances, or charge you for leftover/excess/returned inventory. Nor do they expect you to store the excess inventory of your product, or take a year to deliver any payments on sales, or expect you to take returns and do reimbursements up to three years later. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: All you WORK are belong to us! (Apple)
on 2012-01-24 11:08 P. J. Alling wrote They're taking the prerogatives of a publisher without doing any of the work. none of the work, really? it seems like Apple has a made big investment in the the publishing system, facilitating the process and offering an audience in a way different from, but clearly parallel to how print publishers work -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. I like my old cameras because the controls worked so well. The presence of automatic modes makes these controls an afterthought, and this becomes clear when you use the camera. Most shots work fine on auto but that actually makes it worse. You don't' use the manual controls as often, and when needed it's hard to react quickly. One of the reasons I fell in love all over again with the M4-2, which led to my buying the M9, is that I find I get better results, more consistently, with all manual controls on cameras that are designed with manual control as a priority. Using manual controls on cameras primarily designed to be used with automation invariably presents some awkwardness in use, which makes using manual control less effective and obtaining top notch results less consistent. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling If you want retro for retro sake, look at the Epson RD-1, now that's retro, even more so than the Leica M-9. The Epson RD-1's not retro, it's steampunk. The M9 is not retro either, any more than the M7 was retro, it's simply the continuation of a successful design. If it was retro it would be more like the recent MP, which was styled to look like the M3. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Wind Farm
Nice sky to horizon balance, Dan. Have to admit I'd preferred the frame include all blades on the far left charger and the right edge cropped a bit. Rich sky and foreground colors. Jack - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:46 AM Subject: PESO: Wind Farm http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15039215 Comments and criticisms are appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
The marching band king.
Something different for me. I don't like to make photos of someone's art, but I do like this rendering of Karl King the famous bandmaster. He was a student of John Phillips Sousa and wrote many band classics that are still played today. This statue stands on the town square of his hometown Ft Dodge IA. http://donspix.posterous.com/the-statue-in-the-park-karl-king-marching-ban#!/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The marching band king.
Very nice. You've gone way beyond taking a picture of someone's art with your positioning of the out-of-focus lamp and pole.An excellent composition, nicely rendered. Well done. Paul On Jan 24, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Don Guthrie wrote: Something different for me. I don't like to make photos of someone's art, but I do like this rendering of Karl King the famous bandmaster. He was a student of John Phillips Sousa and wrote many band classics that are still played today. This statue stands on the town square of his hometown Ft Dodge IA. http://donspix.posterous.com/the-statue-in-the-park-karl-king-marching-ban#!/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO - Sand Sculpting
G'day all Just a few shots from the sand sculpting competition being held at Windsor, New South Wales on the banks of the Hawkesbury River. I'm pretty much in awe of the artists involved - it's a long way from a plastic bucket at the beach! Each sculpture was created in 4 days using 20 tonnes of sand. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Windsor-Sand-Sculptures/index.html -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Sand Sculpting
Amazing art and well recorded by you. Will they be washed away by the rain? Paul On Jan 24, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Brian Walters wrote: G'day all Just a few shots from the sand sculpting competition being held at Windsor, New South Wales on the banks of the Hawkesbury River. I'm pretty much in awe of the artists involved - it's a long way from a plastic bucket at the beach! Each sculpture was created in 4 days using 20 tonnes of sand. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Windsor-Sand-Sculptures/index.html -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Given this groups propensity to enjoy retro, i'm a bit surprised that no one has yet said anything about the upcoming Olympus OM-D (or did I just miss it?). http://www.digphoto.org/content/olympus-om-d-camera-leaked-photo-revealed/71710031 http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-57360493-264/olympus-going-even-more-retro-with-om-d-camera/ http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-oh-my-goodness-olympus-is-coming-big/ I'm not into 4/3, but something tells me that his could be a home run in attention-getting for Olympus. Will probably be headline competition for whatever it is that Pentax announces around the same timeframe. Link #2 mentions the expectation that the new OM-D camera will have a weather sealed body. That is one area that will cause a more direct competition with Pentax. I am a new camera slut. I want to hold them, feel them, and twist their knobs. --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: More than rumor?
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it will be a nice counterpoint to all those retro designs . . . On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure the design standpoint comment has to do with Marc Newson's hand and it is the mirrorless k-5 sensor camera that has been rumored... http://www.marc-newson.com/ProjectMosaic.aspx?GroupSelected=0 I hope the design keeps the ergonomics and ease of use as a primary goal. If they do a great job, then this can attract lots of buyers. I have bumped into a bunch of people now who are considering the Nikon 1 series cameras because they are cute. These people have no desire to change lenses and have no clue about photography. They just want a nice cute camera. --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: first images @ work
On Jan 24, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Lighting is Interfit CoolLite 6 on a white table. This one uses the on-camera flash for fill as it is a darker unit. http://www.brendemuehl.net/IMGP6653r.jpg This one has a little reflection glare that is not a real problem, but I'm still going to get control of it. http://www.brendemuehl.net/IMGP6655r.jpg Here I used a polarizer. The loss of glare is good, but it needs more light. I'll try going to a longer shutter speed. http://www.brendemuehl.net/IMGP6649r.jpg Interesting. I seem to remember from Light Science and Magic that light coming off a conductive surface is never polarized. Still a few adjustments to make. But overall it is coming along just fine. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Sand Sculpting
Quoting Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: Amazing art and well recorded by you. Will they be washed away by the rain? Thanks, Paul. I wondered about how 'rain-proof' they might be especially as we had some torrential rain here a few days after the sculptures were created. I was amazed how stable they were. When we went a few days after the rain, all the sculptures looked fine. According to the info I received the sculptures are sprayed with a water repellent substance. Apparently it works really well! There are also a couple of artists on hand to carry out repairs of any minor damage. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Paul On Jan 24, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Brian Walters wrote: G'day all Just a few shots from the sand sculpting competition being held at Windsor, New South Wales on the banks of the Hawkesbury River. I'm pretty much in awe of the artists involved - it's a long way from a plastic bucket at the beach! Each sculpture was created in 4 days using 20 tonnes of sand. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Windsor-Sand-Sculptures/index.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?
Quoting Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com: snip I am a new camera slut. I want to hold them, feel them, and twist their knobs. Well - that's a MARK. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: first images @ work
Interesting. I seem to remember from Light Science and Magic that light coming off a conductive surface is never polarized. The effort may prove to be futile for that reason. But there is something about a vertical reflection from a cylinder. It's not the same as polarization, but it is has more directionality than a flat surface and that appears controllable. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: first images @ work
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: Looking very good, Collin, especially #3. But if that's a white table your subjects are parked on, these are all quite underexposed. Have you a meter? That very subject is detailed in the book I mentioned earlier. I don't need the white table to come out white, but the unit to be exposed properly. Then I can magic-wand cut the table out. It works really well. Believe me, as someone who has magic-wanded out more backgrounds that I care to admit... it works really well SOME of the time. Other times you a messing around with the magic wand sensitivity setting to keep it from grabbing portions of your object. Bruce is correct. Your images are seriously underexposed. The light table should be white. It's the same principle as shooting something on a snow bank. The meter will make the snowbank 18% grey and underexpose the subject. That's what you've got here. You'll save a lot of work in post if you expose correctly. Either get off automatic to manual or use exposure compensation. Also, if you have photoshop you may find that working with levels or curves (to define your white) will save you a lot of time with the magic wand. Trust me, you don't want to rely on the magic wand. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: first images @ work
Other times you a messing around with the magic wand sensitivity should be Other times you are messing around with the magic wand sensitivity :\ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?
On 1/24/2012 3:41 PM, Sam L wrote: I want to hold them, feel them, and twist their knobs. Mark!! -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?
On 1/24/2012 4:00 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com: snip I am a new camera slut. I want to hold them, feel them, and twist their knobs. Well - that's a MARK. Not enough editing. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?
Quoting P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: On 1/24/2012 4:00 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com: snip I am a new camera slut. I want to hold them, feel them, and twist their knobs. Well - that's a MARK. Not enough editing. True. But this being a photography list. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Sam L Link #2 mentions the expectation that the new OM-D camera will have a weather sealed body. That is one area that will cause a more direct competition with Pentax. I am a new camera slut. I want to hold them, feel them, and twist their knobs. the top-end 4/3rds bodies (E-1, E-3, E-5) and the medium- and top-end lenses have always been weather-sealed. They've been ahead of Pentax for years in that respect. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Wind Farm
Not having been there I don't know what you were dealing with lighting wise, but I would have tried for a brighter foreground and definitely would have given more room on the LH edge to the nearest wind turbine. Metering off the foreground would have helped the exposure issue. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Subject: PESO: Wind Farm http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15039215 Comments and criticisms are appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: All you WORK are belong to us! (Apple)
Apple doesn't do any individual work on your project. For them it's cookie cutter. The framework exists weather your work gets accepted or not. Apple has almost none of the costs associated with publishing, and reaps more of the profits. Their restrictions are, well onerous. A good publisher will supply an editor, (human, not software), to shepherd your project to completion.in a form suitable to be published. So without help you put your blood sweat and tears into producing a work, which Apple's representatives decide for some reason cannot be sold through their store. So now you've got no ability to try to sell it on your own? Bullshit. On 1/24/2012 2:21 PM, steve harley wrote: on 2012-01-24 11:08 P. J. Alling wrote They're taking the prerogatives of a publisher without doing any of the work. none of the work, really? it seems like Apple has a made big investment in the the publishing system, facilitating the process and offering an audience in a way different from, but clearly parallel to how print publishers work -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: No discussion of the Olympus OM-D ?
On 1/24/2012 1:00 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com: snip I am a new camera slut. I want to hold them, feel them, and twist their knobs. Well - that's a MARK. That's Mark-baiting. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Sand Sculpting
Good captures of some talented sculptor's work. All the sand sculptures I've ever seen have been on the beach - these look like they were in a park. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org Subject: GESO - Sand Sculpting G'day all Just a few shots from the sand sculpting competition being held at Windsor, New South Wales on the banks of the Hawkesbury River. I'm pretty much in awe of the artists involved - it's a long way from a plastic bucket at the beach! Each sculpture was created in 4 days using 20 tonnes of sand. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Windsor-Sand-Sculptures/index.html -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Stouffville camera club
Quoting David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: Hey gang. Well i signed up over the holidays. First meeting was two weeks ago just as an intro and to see what level(s) every one was at, and what people wanted ot learn and do. We are a group of eight, the group of seven has already been done, with every one but myself and the president owner of the group as pretty much raw newbies. Every one wanted to learn how to get out of auto mode and use the cameras they have at full potential, which was good to hear. We have a dedicated website hosted by a company that specializes in camera clubs so we can do galleries contests etc. http://www.stouffvillecameraclub.ca/ I will be helping out with the monthly discussions and learning cureves with the other members, so that is kinda exciting., Several walks and hikes are being schedules to practice what Ken and i preach. So far so good i'd say. Dave Good luck with it. It looks like cat photography features prominently. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Sand Sculpting
Quoting kwal...@peoplepc.com: Good captures of some talented sculptor's work. All the sand sculptures I've ever seen have been on the beach - these look like they were in a park. They were (or 'are' actually - they'll be there until the coming weekend) - and about 60 km inland. The sand was trucked in from local quarries and will be stored for use next year, so I'm told. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org Subject: GESO - Sand Sculpting G'day all Just a few shots from the sand sculpting competition being held at Windsor, New South Wales on the banks of the Hawkesbury River. I'm pretty much in awe of the artists involved - it's a long way from a plastic bucket at the beach! Each sculpture was created in 4 days using 20 tonnes of sand. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Windsor-Sand-Sculptures/index.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: first images @ work
Believe me, as someone who has magic-wanded out more backgrounds that I care to admit... it works really well SOME of the time. Other times you a messing around with the magic wand sensitivity setting to keep it from grabbing portions of your object. Bruce is correct. Your images are seriously underexposed. The light table should be white. It's the same principle as shooting something on a snow bank. The meter will make the snowbank 18% grey and underexpose the subject. That's what you've got here. You'll save a lot of work in post if you expose correctly. Either get off automatic to manual or use exposure compensation. Also, if you have photoshop you may find that working with levels or curves (to define your white) will save you a lot of time with the magic wand. Trust me, you don't want to rely on the magic wand. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska I am shooting in Manual mode. Yes, the Magic Wand has been useful. So many circular objects are more easily cut with the oval selection tool. As to the exposure, I only saw that on a couple of shots, obvious on the #3 with the PL. I took it off and have not put it back on. Shots #1 #2, once separated from the background (about 10 seconds of work) displays the detail perfectly for the customer's application. The sense of being underexposed went away with the image on a different background -- pure white. The paper should not be all white, but perhaps white-er than it is. I will be adding some reflectors in the next day. Still, the boss is more than happy with the results achieved. Tomorrow I will put up one of the better, later pics with improved exposure. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: A PDMLer's dirty little secret finally outed
Imagine my surprise when I found the following about William Robb: From a humble background, Robb spent his formative years in Aberdeen, as an apprentice to a lithographer, before developing his artistic skills in Paris and London. A part of the 'New Romantic' movement', he exhibited at Aberdeen Artist's Society, the Royal Academy in London., and the Paris Salon. He specialised in still life portraits, later painting idyllic musical soiree's And there was I thinking he just did home renovations and nekkid beauties. http://www.theantiquedealers.com/product.php?cat=37 B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: A PDMLer's dirty little secret finally outed
Semi-nekkid if you please. On 1/24/2012 4:55 PM, Bob W wrote: Imagine my surprise when I found the following about William Robb: From a humble background, Robb spent his formative years in Aberdeen, as an apprentice to a lithographer, before developing his artistic skills in Paris and London. A part of the 'New Romantic' movement', he exhibited at Aberdeen Artist's Society, the Royal Academy in London., and the Paris Salon. He specialised in still life portraits, later painting idyllic musical soiree's And there was I thinking he just did home renovations and nekkid beauties. http://www.theantiquedealers.com/product.php?cat=37 B -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: All you WORK are belong to us! (Apple)
on 2012-01-24 14:33 P. J. Alling wrote Apple doesn't do any individual work on your project. i don't think that matters; the work Apple does is to create a process which is an alternative to traditional publishers, and the user must decide if the tradeoffs are worth it; if not, skip it — there are plenty of other options — but i predict there will be some very successful authors who may not have done so well with a traditional publisher Apple has almost none of the costs associated with publishing, and reaps more of the profits. i don't see how that would be so; do you have any idea how little most authors make with traditional publishers? they are lucky to get 15% of the sales, and there are all kinds of ifs whens; if they play it well with Apple's system, they'll get 70%, and Apple may be able to give them a bigger market than other self-publishing venues i'm a little cautious about it myself, but the theory is that the iBooks ecosystem will work as well as the App Store has for small app makers (some of whose products are actually more like interactive books); for example the maker of Camera+, a simple camera app, has _netted_ over $5 million in about a year and a half; without the help of the App Store what do you suppose this small company would have earned? and assuming their sales would have been anywhere near as high, how much more would it have cost to manage all parts of the sales process for 6 million units? A good publisher will supply an editor, (human, not software), to shepherd your project to completion.in a form suitable to be published. absolutely true, that's a major difference; and publishers may also decide your book is not worth publishing; editors need not be employed by a publisher to do good work, however, and i can foresee a good market for the services of freelance editors and iBooks packagers; even though Apple has big publishers on board, they are probably quite afraid that their control over the industry will slip; my guess is they realized it will slip whether or not they work with Apple So without help you put your blood sweat and tears into producing a work, which Apple's representatives decide for some reason cannot be sold through their store.So now you've got no ability to try to sell it on your own? for most books, the real work is in authorship; the only thing you can't sell on your own is the widgety stuff, and you can make those other ways if you want to; so write the book, wrap it in iBooks format, and if Apple declines to sell it, you haven't given up the copyright on the text, so package it some other way (even the widgety stuff can be done without Apple's tools, but perhaps it will be more work) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: All you WORK are belong to us! (Apple)
On 25/01/2012, at 9:24 AM, steve harley wrote: for most books, the real work is in authorship; the only thing you can't sell on your own is the widgety stuff, and you can make those other ways if you want to; so write the book, wrap it in iBooks format, and if Apple declines to sell it, you haven't given up the copyright on the text, so package it some other way (even the widgety stuff can be done without Apple's tools, but perhaps it will be more work) And that is the crux of it. This isn't a multi-platform tool, it is just for iBooks. If you are wanting to sell an e-book nowadays you have to reformat for multiple file formats and then navigate the submission processes for the various platforms which is not as straight forward as you might think. Basically, almost all of your work should be done in your favourite text editor (Word or whatever) and then tweaked separately for each different platform. The i-books app sounds like it will allow you to go a lot further than you could on a Kindle for instance. This is Apple's way of fighting back against Amazon's desire for an e-book monopoly, by allowing the author to create works that look much better than those on Amazon, so it is no surprise that they don't allow you to sell the end product outside the i-books store. It isn't a copyright grab, just a restriction on how you use the output of a free product. There is nothing stopping you using some other tool to create the same product and selling it elsewhere. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Hey, Wendy! Great dog photo on NatGeo's cover of current issue!
Just an FYI. The article looks interesting as well! Hope all is well with you and the dog world! Cheers, Christine/Chicago http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2012/02/table-of-contents -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: first images @ work
On 1/24/2012 1:48 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Believe me, as someone who has magic-wanded out more backgrounds that I care to admit... it works really well SOME of the time. Other times you a messing around with the magic wand sensitivity setting to keep it from grabbing portions of your object. Bruce is correct. Your images are seriously underexposed. The light table should be white. It's the same principle as shooting something on a snow bank. The meter will make the snowbank 18% grey and underexpose the subject. That's what you've got here. You'll save a lot of work in post if you expose correctly. Either get off automatic to manual or use exposure compensation. Also, if you have photoshop you may find that working with levels or curves (to define your white) will save you a lot of time with the magic wand. Trust me, you don't want to rely on the magic wand. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska I am shooting in Manual mode. Yes, the Magic Wand has been useful. So many circular objects are more easily cut with the oval selection tool. As to the exposure, I only saw that on a couple of shots, obvious on the #3 with the PL. I took it off and have not put it back on. Shots #1 #2, once separated from the background (about 10 seconds of work) displays the detail perfectly for the customer's application. The sense of being underexposed went away with the image on a different background -- pure white. The paper should not be all white, but perhaps white-er than it is. I will be adding some reflectors in the next day. Still, the boss is more than happy with the results achieved. Tomorrow I will put up one of the better, later pics with improved exposure. Since you are shooting in manual mode (and I presume RAW), until you get the system dialed in, why not try some shots where you keep cranking up the exposure? I would suggest two variations on expose to the right: 1) simply looking at the histogram, this will probably put the table just under clipping. 2) Expose to the right based on the object and let the table clip. The histogram should be bi-modal. There should be a peak for the table, and one for the object. When you expose to the right, ignore the the bump for the table and just keep increasing your exposure until the object itself is exposed to the right. This, of course, has issues if there are sections of your object that are close in albedo to that of the table. The alternative would be to put your subject on a dark background, do your test shots to expose to the right and set your exposure, then remove the dark background, and let the exposure of the table fall where it may. I do hope that you are keeping a notebook with good notes on your different lighting setups. Once you get things dialed in, you should have some base settings that are very close to perfect, and will probably be good enough for most of your subjects. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Sand Sculpting
On 1/24/2012 12:20 PM, Brian Walters wrote: G'day all Just a few shots from the sand sculpting competition being held at Windsor, New South Wales on the banks of the Hawkesbury River. Very nice. I'm glad that you don't have compunctions about photographing other people's artwork. :-) I'm pretty much in awe of the artists involved - it's a long way from a plastic bucket at the beach! Each sculpture was created in 4 days using 20 tonnes of sand. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Windsor-Sand-Sculptures/index.html -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: All you WORK are belong to us! (Apple)
on 2012-01-24 14:33 P. J. Alling wrote A good publisher will supply an editor, (human, not software), to shepherd your project to completion.in a form suitable to be published. for more perspective what benefits a publisher gives an author, check out this first hand account: http://dimsumthinking.com/2012/01/21/a-writers-eula/ it gets more to the point in paragraph nine, and the last five (short) paragraphs are particularly telling -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs
On 22 January 2012 16:31, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting kwal...@peoplepc.com: I'd like to know the price tag :-) Since its a rumor, make it anything you want ! OK. I'd like it to be in K-r replacement territory (where I'm interested) rather than K-5 replacement territory (where I'm not). Cheers Brian Your wish might be granted! More rumours, and this time from someone who appears to have seen the camera. Valentín Sama, the editor of DSLR Magazine and originator of the rumour, is a respected Spanish journalist who often gets previews of new gear, so I have no reason to doubt him. What he said (tweeted) today about the Pentax mirrorless: * It's slightly smaller than the K-r * It's butt-ugly * It has a K mount able to accept current Pentax lenses * It has no eye-level viewfinder No info on the price, Brian, so continue to make it whatever you wish. Cheers, —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Sand Sculpting
Great art and great pictures Dave On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all Just a few shots from the sand sculpting competition being held at Windsor, New South Wales on the banks of the Hawkesbury River. I'm pretty much in awe of the artists involved - it's a long way from a plastic bucket at the beach! Each sculpture was created in 4 days using 20 tonnes of sand. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Windsor-Sand-Sculptures/index.html -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 2012 PDML Photo Annual: Week three report
On 21 January 2012 22:10, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: We have reached the Heinz point: 57 images submitted so far. I hope mine cut the mustard. Good job February is a leap year or I mayonaised have had time to submit my picks. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs
Just what the camera buying public wants a butt ugly interchangeable lens camera with no viewfinder... (Can somebody remind me why I stick with Pentax again?) On 1/24/2012 6:04 PM, Miserere wrote: On 22 January 2012 16:31, Brian Waltersapathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting kwal...@peoplepc.com: I'd like to know the price tag :-) Since its a rumor, make it anything you want ! OK. I'd like it to be in K-r replacement territory (where I'm interested) rather than K-5 replacement territory (where I'm not). Cheers Brian Your wish might be granted! More rumours, and this time from someone who appears to have seen the camera. Valentín Sama, the editor of DSLR Magazine and originator of the rumour, is a respected Spanish journalist who often gets previews of new gear, so I have no reason to doubt him. What he said (tweeted) today about the Pentax mirrorless: * It's slightly smaller than the K-r * It's butt-ugly * It has a K mount able to accept current Pentax lenses * It has no eye-level viewfinder No info on the price, Brian, so continue to make it whatever you wish. Cheers, —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs
2012/1/25 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: (Can somebody remind me why I stick with Pentax again?) Plain stupidity? (Like the rest of us) -- MaritimTim My private photo blog: http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ My photo class blog: http://z-fotokurs.blogspot.com/ To err is human to arr is pirate -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs
On 1/24/2012 3:10 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Just what the camera buying public wants a butt ugly interchangeable lens camera with no viewfinder... (Can somebody remind me why I stick with Pentax again?) Because they're a company willing to take risks on products that don't just appeal to the lowest common denominator, and some of the things they produce are cameras that appeal to you, even if they don't necessarily appeal to Joe Sixpack? As for myself, I don't much care what the camera looks like, I mostly care what the pictures I get from it look like. I already have a camera with a great viewfinder, what I don't have is a camera with a good sensor and live view that works well. If the body works with my lenses, has performance on a par with the K-5, and gives me good functionality with live view (i.e. not two seconds of shutter lag while it changes modes three times), I might actually be interested in it. If it's ugly, I hope I can just push that ugliness over the top and get it in Hello Kitty pink. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: We don't need no steenking beach chairs
On 1/24/2012 10:43 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Thanks, Steve. They were happy and proud, and loved it that I wanted to take a photo of their entrenchment. I'm envious. I've never had the never to go up to a woman I don't know on the beach and ask if I could take pictures of her trench. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Fuji X Pro 1 (X100 + interchangeable lenses)
On 12 January 2012 04:12, li...@thrane.name wrote: Brian Walters wrote: Well, I dunno. I'm not a fan of the fad for ever smaller cameras. My K200D is about right. I've handled a K-r and it's too small. An APS mirrorless camera of any size has an advantage over a DSLR in being able to accept virtually any lens (provided appropriate adapters are available). To me, that's the main advantage. Size isn't an issue. Price is. :-( Brian, don't mistake me for a Q-size fan, which I'm far from being. For a rangefinder-style camera, I'd like a size comparable to the E-P3, or an MX, if you prefer. In fact, I'm still waiting for an MX-D (now possible, by using the mirrorless technology). Assuming that one already owns a medium-size APS DSLR system, I don't see the point of the X-Pro 1 because it does not give noticeable size/weight advantage. Oh, and I can already use all of my lenses on a K-5 ;-) Dario I agree. I was a little excited about the X Pro 1, until I discovered that it is almost the same size as K-5. DagT That was my feeling too, Dag. Although the lack of a grip and pentaprism hump might make it a lot more carryable. I'm now waiting for the CP+ show where Samsung is meant to announce the new NX20. I'm hoping it'll be the size of the NX10, which I find near perfect (size-wise) for a MILC, though I do hate the DSLR shape and much prefer the EVF in the corner, as the NEX-7 and X-Pro 1 have. Cheers, —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: MARK!!! (London PDML meet)
Thanks for the gallery, Chris. Good seeing Karin again...can't say the same for you! I thought there would've been at least ONE group shot. Don't be shy! :-) It's been a LONG time since I went to Greenwich and jumped over the meridian. Made me nostalgic now. I think I'll take a break and have a good cry. Cheers, —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 9 January 2012 15:33, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: Hi all Just a few snaps to show that we got together on a rather dull day in Greenwich on Sunday. http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/mark/ And most enjoyable it was too. A good chat, a stroll through the clocks and telescopes and the camera obscura at the Royal Observatory and a spot of lunch in an excellent pub. Cheers Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
What has happened to Ned Bunnell?
Strikes me as odd that Ned Bunnell has gone so silent. Used to be a fairly regular blogger at blogspot. Then moved to Posterous. http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/ Virtually all Posterous posts are about the Q. Last one: Oct. 9, 2011. He has a Twitter account, but only tweet of even minimal substance (since the Oct. 9/10 polarizer filter) is an iPhone photo of the Pentax booth at CES on 1/11/2012 For a guy who supposedly enjoys photography and blogging he certainly not showing much lately, let alone representing Pentax publicly in much of a meaningful way. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Sand Sculpting
Quoting Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: On 1/24/2012 12:20 PM, Brian Walters wrote: G'day all Just a few shots from the sand sculpting competition being held at Windsor, New South Wales on the banks of the Hawkesbury River. Very nice. I'm glad that you don't have compunctions about photographing other people's artwork. :-) Not at all - but but I like to credit the original artist. ;-) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ I'm pretty much in awe of the artists involved - it's a long way from a plastic bucket at the beach! Each sculpture was created in 4 days using 20 tonnes of sand. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Windsor-Sand-Sculptures/index.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What has happened to Ned Bunnell?
On 24 January 2012 18:47, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Strikes me as odd that Ned Bunnell has gone so silent. Used to be a fairly regular blogger at blogspot. Then moved to Posterous. http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/ Virtually all Posterous posts are about the Q. Last one: Oct. 9, 2011. He has a Twitter account, but only tweet of even minimal substance (since the Oct. 9/10 polarizer filter) is an iPhone photo of the Pentax booth at CES on 1/11/2012 For a guy who supposedly enjoys photography and blogging he certainly not showing much lately, let alone representing Pentax publicly in much of a meaningful way. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska I exchanged e-mails with him some time before the Q announcement and he was very busy with the Ricoh buyout. I know nothing else. I wonder if he was politely asked by a Japanese boss to stop being so open online...? —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
The K-r has arrived and I'm quite impressed
What a cute little camera. I wasn't aware that it's so much smaller than my K-5. It snuggles in to my hand just like my *istDS used to do. If it weren't for the second thumbwheel, the bigger viewfinder, and the top display, I'd really be tempted to use one instead of the K-5 which still causes cramps in my right hand during intense shooting sessions. Michael seems to be quite impressed, at least by his standards. Unlike myself, he usually has a totally unemotional attitude towards technical equipment. He's spent the whole evening with the manual and testing the video functions. At least I can now send my K-5 for some long overdue service attention and use the K-r as a back-up. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: first images @ work
You could do all that fiddling and tweaking, or, since this is a budgeted project, you could spring for an incident light meter. (Sekonic L-308S: $199 at BH) 1. place lightmeter on table and arm it. 2. fire flash(es). 3. read meter and set camera accordingly. 4. take one perfectly exposed shot. 5. swap subject part for another part ... go to step 4. If you alter the lighting, go to step 1. Now with all the time you've saved, take more shots of more subjects, or savour a coffee. Since you are doing cutouts, you might consider using green screen techniques. Either paint your background with green chroma-key paint (eg Rosco 5711) or just get a roll of green screen background. You'd have to make sure that none of the green reflects back onto your subjects, so this idea may not work well for you. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On 1/24/2012 1:48 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Believe me, as someone who has magic-wanded out more backgrounds that I care to admit... it works really well SOME of the time. Other times you a messing around with the magic wand sensitivity setting to keep it from grabbing portions of your object. Bruce is correct. Your images are seriously underexposed. The light table should be white. It's the same principle as shooting something on a snow bank. The meter will make the snowbank 18% grey and underexpose the subject. That's what you've got here. You'll save a lot of work in post if you expose correctly. Either get off automatic to manual or use exposure compensation. Also, if you have photoshop you may find that working with levels or curves (to define your white) will save you a lot of time with the magic wand. Trust me, you don't want to rely on the magic wand. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska I am shooting in Manual mode. Yes, the Magic Wand has been useful. So many circular objects are more easily cut with the oval selection tool. As to the exposure, I only saw that on a couple of shots, obvious on the #3 with the PL. I took it off and have not put it back on. Shots #1 #2, once separated from the background (about 10 seconds of work) displays the detail perfectly for the customer's application. The sense of being underexposed went away with the image on a different background -- pure white. The paper should not be all white, but perhaps white-er than it is. I will be adding some reflectors in the next day. Still, the boss is more than happy with the results achieved. Tomorrow I will put up one of the better, later pics with improved exposure. Since you are shooting in manual mode (and I presume RAW), until you get the system dialed in, why not try some shots where you keep cranking up the exposure? I would suggest two variations on expose to the right: 1) simply looking at the histogram, this will probably put the table just under clipping. 2) Expose to the right based on the object and let the table clip. The histogram should be bi-modal. There should be a peak for the table, and one for the object. When you expose to the right, ignore the the bump for the table and just keep increasing your exposure until the object itself is exposed to the right. This, of course, has issues if there are sections of your object that are close in albedo to that of the table. The alternative would be to put your subject on a dark background, do your test shots to expose to the right and set your exposure, then remove the dark background, and let the exposure of the table fall where it may. I do hope that you are keeping a notebook with good notes on your different lighting setups. Once you get things dialed in, you should have some base settings that are very close to perfect, and will probably be good enough for most of your subjects. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: first images @ work
Back in my strobe days, we'd use a Wein WP500 Manuals: http://www.butkus.org/chinon/flashes_meters/honeywell_wp500p_wp1000/honeywell_wp500b_wp1000.htm They are dirt cheap on ebay these days. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: We don't need no steenking beach chairs
Love the bright colours. Also like the beach activities going on behind them. Especially like that bright sunshine! cheers, frank, on another grey, wet Toronto winter day --- Original Message --- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Sent: January 24, 2012 1/24/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: We don't need no steenking beach chairs Two young women dug into the sand to make their own beach chairs: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15039016 Comments and criticisms invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - Sand Sculpting
--- Original Message --- From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org Sent: January 24, 2012 1/24/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO - Sand Sculpting G'day all Just a few shots from the sand sculpting competition being held at Windsor, New South Wales on the banks of the Hawkesbury River. I'm pretty much in awe of the artists involved - it's a long way from a plastic bucket at the beach! Each sculpture was created in 4 days using 20 tonnes of sand. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Windsor-Sand-Sculptures/index.html -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - Sand Sculpting
Wow! Those are amazing! And wonderfully captured by you. Fun gallery. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org Sent: January 24, 2012 1/24/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO - Sand Sculpting G'day all Just a few shots from the sand sculpting competition being held at Windsor, New South Wales on the banks of the Hawkesbury River. I'm pretty much in awe of the artists involved - it's a long way from a plastic bucket at the beach! Each sculpture was created in 4 days using 20 tonnes of sand. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Windsor-Sand-Sculptures/index.html -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs
You stick with Pentax because of the lenses. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Sent: January 24, 2012 1/24/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs Just what the camera buying public wants a butt ugly interchangeable lens camera with no viewfinder... (Can somebody remind me why I stick with Pentax again?) On 1/24/2012 6:04 PM, Miserere wrote: On 22 January 2012 16:31, Brian Waltersapathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting kwal...@peoplepc.com: I'd like to know the price tag :-) Since its a rumor, make it anything you want ! OK. I'd like it to be in K-r replacement territory (where I'm interested) rather than K-5 replacement territory (where I'm not). Cheers Brian Your wish might be granted! More rumours, and this time from someone who appears to have seen the camera. Valentín Sama, the editor of DSLR Magazine and originator of the rumour, is a respected Spanish journalist who often gets previews of new gear, so I have no reason to doubt him. What he said (tweeted) today about the Pentax mirrorless: * It's slightly smaller than the K-r * It's butt-ugly * It has a K mount able to accept current Pentax lenses * It has no eye-level viewfinder No info on the price, Brian, so continue to make it whatever you wish. Cheers, —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: A PDMLer's dirty little secret finally outed
OMG! Pentax is so bad it drove Bill to painting! On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:59 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Semi-nekkid if you please. On 1/24/2012 4:55 PM, Bob W wrote: Imagine my surprise when I found the following about William Robb: From a humble background, Robb spent his formative years in Aberdeen, as an apprentice to a lithographer, before developing his artistic skills in Paris and London. A part of the 'New Romantic' movement', he exhibited at Aberdeen Artist's Society, the Royal Academy in London., and the Paris Salon. He specialised in still life portraits, later painting idyllic musical soiree's And there was I thinking he just did home renovations and nekkid beauties. http://www.theantiquedealers.com/product.php?cat=37 B -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs
(Can somebody remind me why I stick with Pentax again?) Because you can't paint like Bill. One advantage of retro is that it is easier to avoid butt ugly. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 7:58 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: You stick with Pentax because of the lenses. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Sent: January 24, 2012 1/24/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs Just what the camera buying public wants a butt ugly interchangeable lens camera with no viewfinder... (Can somebody remind me why I stick with Pentax again?) On 1/24/2012 6:04 PM, Miserere wrote: On 22 January 2012 16:31, Brian Waltersapathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting kwal...@peoplepc.com: I'd like to know the price tag :-) Since its a rumor, make it anything you want ! OK. I'd like it to be in K-r replacement territory (where I'm interested) rather than K-5 replacement territory (where I'm not). Cheers Brian Your wish might be granted! More rumours, and this time from someone who appears to have seen the camera. Valentín Sama, the editor of DSLR Magazine and originator of the rumour, is a respected Spanish journalist who often gets previews of new gear, so I have no reason to doubt him. What he said (tweeted) today about the Pentax mirrorless: * It's slightly smaller than the K-r * It's butt-ugly * It has a K mount able to accept current Pentax lenses * It has no eye-level viewfinder No info on the price, Brian, so continue to make it whatever you wish. Cheers, —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: A PDMLer's dirty little secret finally outed
I believe that Bill is the only one painting Regina, Saskatchewan's idyllic musical soirees. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Sent: January 24, 2012 1/24/12 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: A PDMLer's dirty little secret finally outed Imagine my surprise when I found the following about William Robb: From a humble background, Robb spent his formative years in Aberdeen, as an apprentice to a lithographer, before developing his artistic skills in Paris and London. A part of the 'New Romantic' movement', he exhibited at Aberdeen Artist's Society, the Royal Academy in London., and the Paris Salon. He specialised in still life portraits, later painting idyllic musical soiree's And there was I thinking he just did home renovations and nekkid beauties. http://www.theantiquedealers.com/product.php?cat=37 B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs
On 1/24/2012 6:24 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote: 2012/1/25 P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com: (Can somebody remind me why I stick with Pentax again?) Plain stupidity? (Like the rest of us) Thanks Tim, now I remember, it's like hitting myself on the head with a hammer, it feels so good when I stop. -- MaritimTim My private photo blog: http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ My photo class blog: http://z-fotokurs.blogspot.com/ To err is human to arr is pirate -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: You stick with Pentax because of the lenses. And because of the fine people of the PDML. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Stouffville camera club
They'll be needing a spelling co-ordinator and you'll be the man for the jib! :-) Seriously, sounds like fun. I know they'll learn a great deal from you. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Sent: January 24, 2012 1/24/12 To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net, Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com Subject: Stouffville camera club Hey gang. Well i signed up over the holidays. First meeting was two weeks ago just as an intro and to see what level(s) every one was at, and what people wanted ot learn and do. We are a group of eight, the group of seven has already been done, with every one but myself and the president owner of the group as pretty much raw newbies. Every one wanted to learn how to get out of auto mode and use the cameras they have at full potential, which was good to hear. We have a dedicated website hosted by a company that specializes in camera clubs so we can do galleries contests etc. http://www.stouffvillecameraclub.ca/ I will be helping out with the monthly discussions and learning cureves with the other members, so that is kinda exciting., Several walks and hikes are being schedules to practice what Ken and i preach. So far so good i'd say. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs
eI don't care how good the damned things imaging capabilities are if no one, (relatively speaking), buys it and Pentax Ricoh stops building K mount cameras and lenses. Hasn't Pentax done that already, except the Q is cute as a button. Except for WW I don't think any serious photographer has bought one. Well no one else on this list anyway. On 1/24/2012 6:26 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On 1/24/2012 3:10 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Just what the camera buying public wants a butt ugly interchangeable lens camera with no viewfinder... (Can somebody remind me why I stick with Pentax again?) Because they're a company willing to take risks on products that don't just appeal to the lowest common denominator, and some of the things they produce are cameras that appeal to you, even if they don't necessarily appeal to Joe Sixpack? As for myself, I don't much care what the camera looks like, I mostly care what the pictures I get from it look like. I already have a camera with a great viewfinder, what I don't have is a camera with a good sensor and live view that works well. If the body works with my lenses, has performance on a par with the K-5, and gives me good functionality with live view (i.e. not two seconds of shutter lag while it changes modes three times), I might actually be interested in it. If it's ugly, I hope I can just push that ugliness over the top and get it in Hello Kitty pink. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
