RE: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs
Dario had one when we met in Ravenna. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Wednesday, 25 January 2012 11:40 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs eI don't care how good the damned things imaging capabilities are if no one, (relatively speaking), buys it and Pentax Ricoh stops building K mount cameras and lenses. Hasn't Pentax done that already, except the Q is cute as a button. Except for WW I don't think any serious photographer has bought one. Well no one else on this list anyway. On 1/24/2012 6:26 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On 1/24/2012 3:10 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Just what the camera buying public wants a butt ugly interchangeable lens camera with no viewfinder... (Can somebody remind me why I stick with Pentax again?) Because they're a company willing to take risks on products that don't just appeal to the lowest common denominator, and some of the things they produce are cameras that appeal to you, even if they don't necessarily appeal to Joe Sixpack? As for myself, I don't much care what the camera looks like, I mostly care what the pictures I get from it look like. I already have a camera with a great viewfinder, what I don't have is a camera with a good sensor and live view that works well. If the body works with my lenses, has performance on a par with the K-5, and gives me good functionality with live view (i.e. not two seconds of shutter lag while it changes modes three times), I might actually be interested in it. If it's ugly, I hope I can just push that ugliness over the top and get it in Hello Kitty pink. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs
John Coyle wrote about of the Q: Dario had one when we met in Ravenna. Not mine. I got it from Pentax importers for testing and tell them my opinion. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: We don't need no steenking beach chairs
On Jan 24, 2012, at 5:43 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: On 1/24/2012 6:28 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On 1/24/2012 10:43 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Thanks, Steve. They were happy and proud, and loved it that I wanted to take a photo of their entrenchment. I'm envious. I've never had the never to go up to a woman I don't know on the beach and ask if I could take pictures of her trench. Had to or had the courage to? That second never should have been nerve. Interesting typo, or braino, whatever. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG
On Jan 24, 2012, at 18:40 , steve harley wrote: on 2012-01-24 00:36 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote I took the M9 up to Alameda for a photo walk at the USS Hornet on Sunday. It was really the wrong camera for the task, but I wanted to get to know it better and push myself a bit. Quickie output ... thirty five photos in this set: http://gallery.me.com/godders#100435 A most enjoyable set. In real life carriers are a lot dirtier, with grime and streaked dirty grey paint. The interior lighting I see in your photos looks much more even and bright than I remember. this is very real; the details, for one who has some sense of the convoluted systems on these ships, are very suggestive of the whole (i could do without the people-shots, the airplanes, and the vignettes) just read a bit about the scuttling of the German High Seas Fleet, and a few months ago read an eye-opening (for a baby-boomer at least) book on the battle of Guadalcanal; i think warships, and how their little systems worked, are perhaps the perfect expression of the 20th century machine age; looking at controls and gauges, etc., one is forced to imagine the physical reality of the people who operated them Spent 10 months at sea and in various ports in 1965/66 in the south china sea on a carrier that is even newer than the one your were on, CVA-31, the Bon Homme Richard, built in New York in 1944. The thing you can't capture with a camera, or even sense in port is the incredible amount of noise those things make when at speed (40-45 knots), the steam turbines in the engine room hissing and whining, the screech of the arresting gear playing out every 45 seconds, the rumble of that heavy cable being drawn back across the deck for the next 20 something pilot to thump his plane onto the deck, all diminished by the undulating movements and rumbling sound of the entire steel envelope you are in being pushed through water by 4 huge brass propellers. The ship creates exclusive sounds at differing speeds, from the aforementioned rumble to a sound like shaking a large china cabinet so it beats against the wall, but more metallic. I've also been on more modern carriers (the Lincoln) but only cruising from Everett to Seattle, never exceeding 10 knots, if that. And was most surprised once stopped in Elliot Bay, beginning flight ops! Launching one or two of each type of aircraft aboard, then recovering them. The Bonnie Dick had to have at least 35 knots of wind down the deck to do that! We tourists toeing the yellow safety line on the angled deck catapult, which meant the wingtips of the F-14s and 18s passed about 4 feet in front of our noses as they were pulled into the sky pointing right at downtown, a mile or closer to our bow. Then came 9.11.01, and these publicity cruises stopped happening here. Probably everywhere. Well worth the $20 fee, 'cause you got lunch and free roam of the ship. Thanks for reading my memories. Images in a year or so when I start getting my slides scanned. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com The Big Bang was silent, and invisible in it's beginning moments. Photons were one of the earliest particles to develop, but I don't think any were able to escape for a little bit more. Once they could, there would have been a flash during expansion. No one would notice, of course, for another 4.2 billion years. Now we are trying to catch up by looking out, and back in time to that infinitesimally small fraction of a millisecond in an attempt to see what caused that singularity to become the Big Bang. This attempt will fail in any visual way, as the furthest galaxies and elements are now moving faster than light by recent theory, making the information sought beyond a theoretical event horizon. — update to the Pentaxian's thoughts on particle physics, so far. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: first images @ work
use your lighting to separate the item from the background Yes, that makes the most sense. Thanks, David! On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:31 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: Thats when you use a shim or prop underneath to raise it off the paper and use your lighting to separate the item from the background. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I was just wondering about the edge case, literally. If you have a rounded brushed metal part (eg a valve-stem), that surface will appear very white and appear to fade smoothly into the white background. That would cause jaggy and ill-defined boundaries when attempting the cutout. Of course one could/should use the pen tool to define the path, but the CS5 refine edge tool is just so incredibly nice for that. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:55 PM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote: If he's doing cutouts, there's no point in using green. White will work fine, and it won't introduce any color casts that need to be fixed later. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG
I really like these. I didn't recall you getting the M9, but that's only a small example of my forgetfulness. If I had gotten an M9, it would be the right camera for a long time ;-) What lens? On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: On Jan 24, 2012, at 18:40 , steve harley wrote: on 2012-01-24 00:36 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote I took the M9 up to Alameda for a photo walk at the USS Hornet on Sunday. It was really the wrong camera for the task, but I wanted to get to know it better and push myself a bit. Quickie output ... thirty five photos in this set: http://gallery.me.com/godders#100435 A most enjoyable set. In real life carriers are a lot dirtier, with grime and streaked dirty grey paint. The interior lighting I see in your photos looks much more even and bright than I remember. this is very real; the details, for one who has some sense of the convoluted systems on these ships, are very suggestive of the whole (i could do without the people-shots, the airplanes, and the vignettes) just read a bit about the scuttling of the German High Seas Fleet, and a few months ago read an eye-opening (for a baby-boomer at least) book on the battle of Guadalcanal; i think warships, and how their little systems worked, are perhaps the perfect expression of the 20th century machine age; looking at controls and gauges, etc., one is forced to imagine the physical reality of the people who operated them Spent 10 months at sea and in various ports in 1965/66 in the south china sea on a carrier that is even newer than the one your were on, CVA-31, the Bon Homme Richard, built in New York in 1944. The thing you can't capture with a camera, or even sense in port is the incredible amount of noise those things make when at speed (40-45 knots), the steam turbines in the engine room hissing and whining, the screech of the arresting gear playing out every 45 seconds, the rumble of that heavy cable being drawn back across the deck for the next 20 something pilot to thump his plane onto the deck, all diminished by the undulating movements and rumbling sound of the entire steel envelope you are in being pushed through water by 4 huge brass propellers. The ship creates exclusive sounds at differing speeds, from the aforementioned rumble to a sound like shaking a large china cabinet so it beats against the wall, but more metallic. I've also been on more modern carriers (the Lincoln) but only cruising from Everett to Seattle, never exceeding 10 knots, if that. And was most surprised once stopped in Elliot Bay, beginning flight ops! Launching one or two of each type of aircraft aboard, then recovering them. The Bonnie Dick had to have at least 35 knots of wind down the deck to do that! We tourists toeing the yellow safety line on the angled deck catapult, which meant the wingtips of the F-14s and 18s passed about 4 feet in front of our noses as they were pulled into the sky pointing right at downtown, a mile or closer to our bow. Then came 9.11.01, and these publicity cruises stopped happening here. Probably everywhere. Well worth the $20 fee, 'cause you got lunch and free roam of the ship. Thanks for reading my memories. Images in a year or so when I start getting my slides scanned. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com The Big Bang was silent, and invisible in it's beginning moments. Photons were one of the earliest particles to develop, but I don't think any were able to escape for a little bit more. Once they could, there would have been a flash during expansion. No one would notice, of course, for another 4.2 billion years. Now we are trying to catch up by looking out, and back in time to that infinitesimally small fraction of a millisecond in an attempt to see what caused that singularity to become the Big Bang. This attempt will fail in any visual way, as the furthest galaxies and elements are now moving faster than light by recent theory, making the information sought beyond a theoretical event horizon. — update to the Pentaxian's thoughts on particle physics, so far. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs
What was your opinion, Dario? On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: John Coyle wrote about of the Q: Dario had one when we met in Ravenna. Not mine. I got it from Pentax importers for testing and tell them my opinion. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: first images @ work
I do hope that you are keeping a notebook with good notes on your different lighting setups. Once you get things dialed in, you should have some base settings that are very close to perfect, and will probably be good enough for most of your subjects. Larry, I've not kept a notebook, but I am maintaining a clear strategy. Putting in on paper is always a good idea. My first principle is always keeping the lights at the same distance to the subject, no matter the angle. That means a consistent exposure setting on the camera. I was just wondering about the edge case, literally. If you have a rounded brushed metal part (eg a valve-stem), that surface will appear very white and appear to fade smoothly into the white background. That would cause jaggy and ill-defined boundaries when attempting the cutout. Of course one could/should use the pen tool to define the path, but the CS5 refine edge tool is just so incredibly nice for that. Bruce, That feature is also in Elements 10. I make regular use of it. Thats when you use a shim or prop underneath to raise it off the paper and use your lighting to separate the item from the background. Dave, That's the plan. Here is a reason for it: http://www.brendemuehl.net/49528b.jpg And here is another improved exposure http://www.brendemuehl.net/49529b.jpg Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:40:10 -0500 P. J. Alling wrote: eI don't care how good the damned things imaging capabilities are if no one, (relatively speaking), buys it and Pentax Ricoh stops building K mount cameras and lenses. Hasn't Pentax done that already, except the Q is cute as a button. Except for WW I don't think any serious photographer has bought one. Well no one else on this list anyway. Well I did :-) Very good as an 'always carry with you' camera, and very solidly built too. And with the Q to PK adapter it is VERY good at macro, I have made some stunning images of microelectronics and EPROM chips internals using that and the A* 200mm macro. Object area just over 1 millimeter in length when stacking a 50mm F/1.4 on that ... That said, the rumoured K-01 does not sound that attractive of there is no eye-level VF either. (the missing VF is the weakest point on the Q as well) Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: first images @ work
If he's doing cutouts, there's no point in using green. White will work fine, and it won't introduce any color casts that need to be fixed later. Ding Ding Ding! Especially with the polished reflective surfaces. Turn that magic wanding into a Real Nightmare with color of any kind. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Copyright - Most Worrying!
This would make all those fancy photoshop plugins illegal. Only the first user can claim copyright. Toine On 25 January 2012 08:03, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/01/25/Imitated_Image_Copyright_Case -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Copyright - Most Worrying!
On Jan 25, 2012, at 1:03, Cotty wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/01/25/Imitated_Image_Copyright_Case Favorite comment so far: This means that any photographer who has used Selective Color can be called a criminal. Maybe that's a good thing. It's clear that the concept was copied. I also think the copy image is better than the original. However, I think the judge in this case is a bit off the mark. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Copyright - Most Worrying!
And I thought American copyright decisions were confounding. This takes the cake. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Copyright - Most Worrying!
That would be a relief :-) DagT Den 25. jan. 2012 kl. 15:17 skrev Toine: This would make all those fancy photoshop plugins illegal. Only the first user can claim copyright. Toine On 25 January 2012 08:03, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/01/25/Imitated_Image_Copyright_Case -- Cheers, Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Copyright - Most Worrying!
On 1/25/2012 9:39 AM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Jan 25, 2012, at 1:03, Cotty wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/01/25/Imitated_Image_Copyright_Case Favorite comment so far: This means that any photographer who has used Selective Color can be called a criminal. Maybe that's a good thing. It's clear that the concept was copied. I also think the copy image is better than the original. However, I think the judge in this case is a bit off the mark. -Charles I'd say lets be fair, but no I don't want to be fair and I don't believe this idiot of a judge deserves fairness, he has no understanding of reality or the law. Judicial decisions such as these are one of the many reasons the law falls into disrepute. -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG
Thanks for all the comments! Steve, The M9 just arrived last Friday evening so this is all hot off the presses. :-) These photos were taken with the Voigtländer Ultron 28mm f/2 and Color-Skopar 50mm f/2.5. G On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I really like these. I didn't recall you getting the M9, but that's only a small example of my forgetfulness. If I had gotten an M9, it would be the right camera for a long time ;-) What lens? -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Copycat or Copyright?
Bob W wrote: it's absurd to apply that to such a common cliched image as a London bus crossing Westminster Bridge, with only the red retained. That sort of picture has been knocking around since the Victorian period. I can't imagine a judgement like this surviving an appeal. The surest way to beat it would be to find an earlier picture that's similar. Shouldn't be too difficult. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
How would you answer THIS question?
I thought it would be amusing to hear your answer to this tweet that I saw this morning... (it was retweeted by a film proponent/processor). When i look at a photo, I always need to find out if film or digital. If digital, appeal of photo goes down. What does that make me? A snob? Looking forward to your thoughts/responses. :) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How would you answer THIS question?
Ok, so he readily admits he cannot objectively tell the difference between a photo that originated as film or digital, (just a few years ago that was easy, film, even 35mm, could produce much greater detail, but today, not so much). So the answer to is he a snob is simple. Yes. On 1/25/2012 10:25 AM, Darren Addy wrote: I thought it would be amusing to hear your answer to this tweet that I saw this morning... (it was retweeted by a film proponent/processor). When i look at a photo, I always need to find out if film or digital. If digital, appeal of photo goes down. What does that make me? A snob? Looking forward to your thoughts/responses. :) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Copycat or Copyright?
On Jan 25, 2012, at 1:59 AM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au: Inspired is the wrong word here, copied is correct. Company A decides not to pay for an image from Company B, but instead gets another photographer to make something that looks similar. They have intentionally copied the concept. There's a bigger version playing out at the moment with David La Chapelle suing the creators of a video clip for Rhianna for recreating elements from one of his photos. You can be as inspired as you like and generally not run into trouble, but if what you do is being used as a substitute for the original then you will be at risk of this sort of law-suit. Point taken, but I think the second image is sufficiently different from the first to have a degree of originality. But I did say my knowledge of copyright law is basic. :-) Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ I looked at a few of the comments on the site where the note was posted. I particularly liked this one: The judge should instead have fined BOTH photographers for poor taste and boring us with their photographs. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
What the heck is the release tab on a D-BG-1 battery grip?
Just bought a Pentax D-BG-1battery grip from KEH (bargain condition, $10). It was described as Release tab cracked/works. Trying to figure out what the Release tab is, since the D-BG1 operating manual uses no such language. Hoping it is something I can fix/reinforce that will allow me to extend its life. Anyone have any idea what they are referring to (or what part had a tendency to crack?) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How would you answer THIS question?
Tell them its film and go from there. Dave On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I thought it would be amusing to hear your answer to this tweet that I saw this morning... (it was retweeted by a film proponent/processor). When i look at a photo, I always need to find out if film or digital. If digital, appeal of photo goes down. What does that make me? A snob? Looking forward to your thoughts/responses. :) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How would you answer THIS question?
How about ... When i look at a person, I always need to find out if natural or Caesarean. If Caesarean, appeal of person goes down. What does that make me? A snob? Nah, just stupid. On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I thought it would be amusing to hear your answer to this tweet that I saw this morning... (it was retweeted by a film proponent/processor). When i look at a photo, I always need to find out if film or digital. If digital, appeal of photo goes down. What does that make me? A snob? Looking forward to your thoughts/responses. :) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
When your motto is don't be evil, just maybe you are.
*http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jn8rdj Makes me glad that pretty much the only Google service I use is Gmail. (I usually search through startpage). Nobody should ever send me any e-mail they don't expect the whole world to eventually be able to read. * -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How would you answer THIS question?
A tosser Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I thought it would be amusing to hear your answer to this tweet that I saw this morning... (it was retweeted by a film proponent/processor). When i look at a photo, I always need to find out if film or digital. If digital, appeal of photo goes down. What does that make me? A snob? Looking forward to your thoughts/responses. :) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How would you answer THIS question?
On Jan 25, 2012, at 9:25, Darren Addy wrote: I thought it would be amusing to hear your answer to this tweet that I saw this morning... (it was retweeted by a film proponent/processor). When i look at a photo, I always need to find out if film or digital. If digital, appeal of photo goes down. What does that make me? A snob? It makes him a dumbass! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How would you answer THIS question?
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Larry Colen, l...@red4est.com (From Droid) l...@red4est.com wrote: A tosser Caber or dwarf? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How would you answer THIS question?
snobs have class or try to. this sounds more like a barista who thinks he's creative... 2012/1/25 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Larry Colen, l...@red4est.com (From Droid) l...@red4est.com wrote: A tosser Caber or dwarf? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Copycat or Copyright?
Those wascally Brits are at it again! -Original Message- From: Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org Subject: OT - Copycat or Copyright? If you haven't seen it in DPReview: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/01/25/Imitated_Image_Copyright_Case It's about a rather interesting, albeit controversial decision.. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When your motto is don't be evil, just maybe you are.
It seems that the big change is that rather than aggregating data from each product separately, they aggregate them together. My only surprise is that they didn't already do this, especially with their insistance of one account for everything. If you don't want this to happen, have separate google accounts for different products. If you aren't paying for something, you are what's being sold. P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: *http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jn8rdj Makes me glad that pretty much the only Google service I use is Gmail. (I usually search through startpage). Nobody should ever send me any e-mail they don't expect the whole world to eventually be able to read. PJ, email is sent in the clear. It's not quite like the old bangpath days, but it has always been possible for someone on any computer on the path, or connected to the same network, to read your email. Expecting privacy in email is like expecting privacy on a cell phone call on a public street, or on CB radio. * -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How would you answer THIS question?
I believe that in most fields, a True Snob doesn't have to ask; they can simply discern a difference. Since this person has to ask before discerning a difference, I believe that what he is being would be called a pseudosnob. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When your motto is don't be evil, just maybe you are.
On 1/25/2012 11:15 AM, Larry Colen, l...@red4est.com (From Droid) wrote: It seems that the big change is that rather than aggregating data from each product separately, they aggregate them together. My only surprise is that they didn't already do this, especially with their insistance of one account for everything. If you don't want this to happen, have separate google accounts for different products. If you aren't paying for something, you are what's being sold. P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: *http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jn8rdj Makes me glad that pretty much the only Google service I use is Gmail. (I usually search through startpage). Nobody should ever send me any e-mail they don't expect the whole world to eventually be able to read. PJ, email is sent in the clear. It's not quite like the old bangpath days, but it has always been possible for someone on any computer on the path, or connected to the same network, to read your email. Expecting privacy in email is like expecting privacy on a cell phone call on a public street, or on CB radio. True, but it took effort before. Now Google despite privacy settings is probably archiving everything. Which means eventually it will be made public. For the PDML I don't care,. its a public list. I never expected privacy on e-mail anyway. This is just less private than most people expect. Personally I don't care. I use Gmail through the pop server so I never see their adverts in my emails. Since I started using startpage I haven't gotten any google smart adverts about anything but photogear. So I know they're reading my mail. * -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How would you answer THIS question?
Underpaid N. Overpentaxed wrote: snobs have class or try to. this sounds more like a barista who thinks he's creative... Best answer yet! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What the heck is the release tab on a D-BG-1 battery grip?
Hum, does it have a clip that holds the batter carrier? I couldn't find a BG-1 manual on line so I can't even make a good guess. On 1/25/2012 10:39 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Just bought a Pentax D-BG-1battery grip from KEH (bargain condition, $10). It was described as Release tab cracked/works. Trying to figure out what the Release tab is, since the D-BG1 operating manual uses no such language. Hoping it is something I can fix/reinforce that will allow me to extend its life. Anyone have any idea what they are referring to (or what part had a tendency to crack?) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What the heck is the release tab on a D-BG-1 battery grip?
Sorry, here's the D-BG1 manual: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/attachments/pentax-camera-field-accessories/22526d1226954357-need-instructions-d-bg1-d-bg2-d-bg1.pdf (not that it helped me answer the question). : ) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What the heck is the release tab on a D-BG-1 battery grip?
On 1/25/2012 11:31 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Sorry, here's the D-BG1 manual: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/attachments/pentax-camera-field-accessories/22526d1226954357-need-instructions-d-bg1-d-bg2-d-bg1.pdf (not that it helped me answer the question). : ) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska I would assume based on that manual that the clip they're referring to is the battery door latch, either the movable part in the door or the fixed part in the grip body. If it still holds somewhat just put a bit of black electrical tape over the door when it's closed as insurance, it works wonders. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax EVIL rumor, with specs
Steven Desjardins wrote: What was your opinion, Dario? In brief: a nice little toy, perfoming better than expected regarding IQ, but too expensive for what it is. Not my cup of tea. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How would you answer THIS question?
To be fair, he openly admits to his reaction and tacitly acknowledges a problem with it. He needs the photo equivalent of AA. On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Underpaid N. Overpentaxed wrote: snobs have class or try to. this sounds more like a barista who thinks he's creative... Best answer yet! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Copyright - Most Worrying!
On Jan 24, 2012, at 23:03 , Cotty wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/01/25/Imitated_Image_Copyright_Case All the more reason to go through all those images you've taken in the last 50 years, with a lawyer at your side and a stack of Copyright infringement forms ready to be filled out. Unbelievable! Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com I couldn't remember most of what I know today if it weren't for others sharing their knowledge of my past on the Internet. Thank you… -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How would you answer THIS question?
On Jan 25, 2012, at 08:12 , Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Larry Colen, l...@red4est.com (From Droid) l...@red4est.com wrote: A tosser Caber or dwarf? Dwarf. Better distance, unless he's armed, then caber, unless it's a gooey pine log, then dwarf. If it doesn’t excite you, This thing that you see, Why in the world, Would it excite me? —Jay Maisel Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How would you answer THIS question?
I thought it would be amusing to hear your answer to this tweet that I saw this morning... (it was retweeted by a film proponent/processor). When i look at a photo, I always need to find out if film or digital. If digital, appeal of photo goes down. What does that make me? A snob? Looking forward to your thoughts/responses. :) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska Since he's tweeting, likely the way he's viewing a given image is on a monitor, i,e, a digitized image, which makes the point pretty much moot. Nor was any rationale for that viewpoint provided. To claim that that there's one right way to capture an image is like claiming there's one right way to catch a fish. Furthermore, it misses the real point, and that is, Is the image pleasing to the viewer? Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Copyright - Most Worrying!
As with most news stories this one leaves out a lot of the (rather important) details. My son-in-law (who does a lot of stock photography with Getty, etc.) follows this stuff closely. His brief take... - - - I think the judge was a bit overzealous (I mean this was a pretty standard tourist destination and no doubt there are probably 10,000 other images similar to these out there), but it's a myth that a photo has to be an exact copy to be an infringement. Context matters a lot, too -- and in this context, from what I read of the ruling, it sounds like the company originally just out and out stole the photographer's photograph, the photographer told them to knock it off, they knocked it off, and THEN they sent one of their own employees out to go and try to reproduce the photograph on location and in Photoshop. - - - Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Copyright - Most Worrying!
On 1/25/2012 12:36 PM, Darren Addy wrote: As with most news stories this one leaves out a lot of the (rather important) details. My son-in-law (who does a lot of stock photography with Getty, etc.) follows this stuff closely. His brief take... - - - I think the judge was a bit overzealous (I mean this was a pretty standard tourist destination and no doubt there are probably 10,000 other images similar to these out there), but it's a myth that a photo has to be an exact copy to be an infringement. Context matters a lot, too -- and in this context, from what I read of the ruling, it sounds like the company originally just out and out stole the photographer's photograph, the photographer told them to knock it off, they knocked it off, and THEN they sent one of their own employees out to go and try to reproduce the photograph on location and in Photoshop. - - - Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska Worse things get done in Hollywood. Not a defense. But this is clearly not a copyright issue. It's some other type of intellectual property issue. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Interesting: Sony improvements in phone-size sensors
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/01/23/Sony_Backsideilluminated_CMOS You may recall that it was the backside illumination Sony Exmor chip that was used in (at least) the K-x and first delivered the low noise high-iso performance that continued with the K-r and K-5. I think it is very smart of Sony to do their initial development of ideas like this on phone-sized sensors. I would imagine that they can take lessons learned and build them into larger sensors down the road. In the meantime they can sell a metric buttload of them. (For example, if used in future iPhones, sales of iPhones in the last quarter alone was 37 million units). That's a lot of phone camera sensors. This got me thinking that if this development track is true (small sensors on up to larger ones) for cost and sales numbers reasons) ... then a full frame camera would probably be the last one in the chain to reap the benefits, chronologically. (APS-C would see it sooner). Sure, it's unadulterated speculation but it's High Quality Grade A unadulterated speculation in HD. : ) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Copyright - Most Worrying!
I've already contacted my lawyer. We're suing every photographer who ever made money off a tilted, blurry street photo. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Cotty cotty...@mac.com Sent: January 25, 2012 1/25/12 To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Copyright - Most Worrying! http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/01/25/Imitated_Image_Copyright_Case -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: How would you answer THIS question?
It doesn't make him a snob. It doesn't make him anything. It's evidence that he's pretentious. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com Sent: January 25, 2012 1/25/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: How would you answer THIS question? I thought it would be amusing to hear your answer to this tweet that I saw this morning... (it was retweeted by a film proponent/processor). When i look at a photo, I always need to find out if film or digital. If digital, appeal of photo goes down. What does that make me? A snob? Looking forward to your thoughts/responses. :) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How would you answer THIS question?
On 1/25/2012 9:19 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote: On Jan 25, 2012, at 08:12 , Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Larry Colen, l...@red4est.com (From Droid)l...@red4est.com wrote: A tosser Caber or dwarf? Dwarf. Better distance, unless he's armed, then caber, unless it's a gooey pine log, then dwarf. Real men *catch* the caber. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How would you answer THIS question?
This guy probably hasn't committed to digital photography (as yet) and is attempting to salve his personal image for not having done so. Jack - Original Message - From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 9:24 AM Subject: Re: How would you answer THIS question? I thought it would be amusing to hear your answer to this tweet that I saw this morning... (it was retweeted by a film proponent/processor). When i look at a photo, I always need to find out if film or digital. If digital, appeal of photo goes down. What does that make me? A snob? Looking forward to your thoughts/responses. :) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska Since he's tweeting, likely the way he's viewing a given image is on a monitor, i,e, a digitized image, which makes the point pretty much moot. Nor was any rationale for that viewpoint provided. To claim that that there's one right way to capture an image is like claiming there's one right way to catch a fish. Furthermore, it misses the real point, and that is, Is the image pleasing to the viewer? Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How would you answer THIS question?
On 1/25/2012 1:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On 1/25/2012 9:19 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote: On Jan 25, 2012, at 08:12 , Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Larry Colen, l...@red4est.com (From Droid)l...@red4est.com wrote: A tosser Caber or dwarf? Dwarf. Better distance, unless he's armed, then caber, unless it's a gooey pine log, then dwarf. Real men *catch* the caber. If they do it poorly they cease to be real men. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When your motto is don't be evil, just maybe you are.
I sign up for stuff on the internet using my high school fake id. I'm good to go. Dave On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:42 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: *http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jn8rdj Makes me glad that pretty much the only Google service I use is Gmail. (I usually search through startpage). Nobody should ever send me any e-mail they don't expect the whole world to eventually be able to read. * -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: When your motto is don't be evil, just maybe you are.
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling *http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jn8rdj Makes me glad that pretty much the only Google service I use is Gmail. From the article: Consumers could also benefit, the company said. When someone is searching for the word jaguar, Google would have a better idea of whether the person was interested in the animal or the car. But what if you're searching for the word cougar? B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: How would you answer THIS question?
I thought it would be amusing to hear your answer to this tweet that I saw this morning... (it was retweeted by a film proponent/processor). When i look at a photo, I always need to find out if film or digital. If digital, appeal of photo goes down. What does that make me? A snob? Looking forward to your thoughts/responses. :) he's thinking about the wrong thing. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Copyright - Most Worrying!
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/01/25/Imitated_Image_Copyright_Case All the more reason to go through all those images you've taken in the last 50 years, with a lawyer at your side and a stack of Copyright infringement forms ready to be filled out. Unbelievable! I imagine the same judgement means that legal precedent is a breach of copyright... B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How would you answer THIS question?
on 2012-01-25 08:25 Darren Addy wrote I thought it would be amusing to hear your answer to this tweet that I saw this morning... (it was retweeted by a film proponent/processor). When i look at a photo, I always need to find out if film or digital. If digital, appeal of photo goes down. What does that make me? A snob? i wouldn't answer -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT Valentine gift
I present a perfect gift from/for a PDMLer ... http://goo.gl/e0IqO -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Not being evil (was: When your motto is don't be evil, just maybe you are.
This is an interesting story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-16726193 The school is less than 2 miles from my house. And his foundation gives an enormous amount of money to the NGO I work for. This is just a few months after Johnny Depp dropped in unexpectedly on another local school less than 1 mile from here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11498980 B -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: 25 January 2012 19:18 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: When your motto is don't be evil, just maybe you are. From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling *http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jn8rdj Makes me glad that pretty much the only Google service I use is Gmail. From the article: Consumers could also benefit, the company said. When someone is searching for the word jaguar, Google would have a better idea of whether the person was interested in the animal or the car. But what if you're searching for the word cougar? B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Valentine gift
On 1/25/2012 12:00 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: I present a perfect gift from/for a PDMLer ... http://goo.gl/e0IqO And I quote: Riding in style doesn’t mean you can’t be packing. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Valentine gift
It doesn't look that sturdy. On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On 1/25/2012 12:00 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: I present a perfect gift from/for a PDMLer ... http://goo.gl/e0IqO And I quote: Riding in style doesn’t mean you can’t be packing. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When your motto is don't be evil, just maybe you are.
The Email system at my University keeps every email sent. It's required by US law. On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling *http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jn8rdj Makes me glad that pretty much the only Google service I use is Gmail. From the article: Consumers could also benefit, the company said. When someone is searching for the word jaguar, Google would have a better idea of whether the person was interested in the animal or the car. But what if you're searching for the word cougar? B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG
I was just commenting to a friend that many of my photography friends were reaching the age where they are were finally buying that camera they always wanted. In that regard, the M9 would be high on my list. On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all the comments! Steve, The M9 just arrived last Friday evening so this is all hot off the presses. :-) These photos were taken with the Voigtländer Ultron 28mm f/2 and Color-Skopar 50mm f/2.5. G On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I really like these. I didn't recall you getting the M9, but that's only a small example of my forgetfulness. If I had gotten an M9, it would be the right camera for a long time ;-) What lens? -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How would you answer THIS question?
steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2012-01-25 08:25 Darren Addy wrote I thought it would be amusing to hear your answer to this tweet that I saw this morning... (it was retweeted by a film proponent/processor). When i look at a photo, I always need to find out if film or digital. If digital, appeal of photo goes down. What does that make me? A snob? i wouldn't answer Not until after he revealed whether he was right-handed or left-handed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Valentine gift
Should ask Knarf how well this works. ;) Jack - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:00 PM Subject: OT Valentine gift I present a perfect gift from/for a PDMLer ... http://goo.gl/e0IqO -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How would you answer THIS question?
On 25/1/12, Darren Addy, discombobulated, unleashed: When i look at a photo, I always need to find out if film or digital. If digital, appeal of photo goes down. What does that make me? A snob? Complete firking idiot. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What the heck is the release tab on a D-BG-1 battery grip?
Quoting P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: On 1/25/2012 11:31 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Sorry, here's the D-BG1 manual: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/attachments/pentax-camera-field-accessories/22526d1226954357-need-instructions-d-bg1-d-bg2-d-bg1.pdf (not that it helped me answer the question). : ) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska I would assume based on that manual that the clip they're referring to is the battery door latch, either the movable part in the door or the fixed part in the grip body. If it still holds somewhat just put a bit of black electrical tape over the door when it's closed as insurance, it works wonders. I agree. There's nothing else that could be described as a 'release tab'. Looking at my D-BG1, even if the battery door is completely separated from the body of the grip, a piece of electrical tape should hold the whole thing in place. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - Sand Sculpting
Quoting knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com: Wow! Those are amazing! And wonderfully captured by you. Fun gallery. Thanks, Flank. Glad you enjoyed it :-) And thanks to all who looked. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ --- Original Message --- From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org Sent: January 24, 2012 1/24/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO - Sand Sculpting G'day all Just a few shots from the sand sculpting competition being held at Windsor, New South Wales on the banks of the Hawkesbury River. I'm pretty much in awe of the artists involved - it's a long way from a plastic bucket at the beach! Each sculpture was created in 4 days using 20 tonnes of sand. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Windsor-Sand-Sculptures/index.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Selective color
Given the recent copyright issue with that pic of a bus in London, I decided to come out of lurking mode to post a PESO: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=1935 I only do selective color when it I don't need software for it :) (Pentax K10D, forgot what lens I used) j -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Selective color
That is a WOMDERFUL photo! On 1/25/2012 1:47 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: Given the recent copyright issue with that pic of a bus in London, I decided to come out of lurking mode to post a PESO: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=1935 I only do selective color when it I don't need software for it :) (Pentax K10D, forgot what lens I used) j -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Sand Sculpting
On 1/25/2012 1:43 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com: Wow! Those are amazing! And wonderfully captured by you. Fun gallery. Thanks, Flank. Would that mean Flank steak is a garden burger? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How would you answer THIS question?
I thought it would be amusing to hear your answer to this tweet that I saw this morning... (it was retweeted by a film proponent/processor). When i look at a photo, I always need to find out if film or digital. If digital, appeal of photo goes down. What does that make me? A snob? Foolish. Biased. An inept viewer of photographs. A firkin' idjut. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Selective color
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Juan Buhler Given the recent copyright issue with that pic of a bus in London, I decided to come out of lurking mode to post a PESO: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=1935 I only do selective color when it I don't need software for it :) Damn! Now I have to throw all my cameras away. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Selective color
... and I still hate you... On 1/25/2012 4:47 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: Given the recent copyright issue with that pic of a bus in London, I decided to come out of lurking mode to post a PESO: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=1935 I only do selective color when it I don't need software for it :) (Pentax K10D, forgot what lens I used) j -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Copycat or Copyright?
From: Brian Walters Quoting Paul Ewins paulew...@optusnet.com.au: Inspired is the wrong word here, copied is correct. Company A decides not to pay for an image from Company B, but instead gets another photographer to make something that looks similar. They have intentionally copied the concept. There's a bigger version playing out at the moment with David La Chapelle suing the creators of a video clip for Rhianna for recreating elements from one of his photos. You can be as inspired as you like and generally not run into trouble, but if what you do is being used as a substitute for the original then you will be at risk of this sort of law-suit. Point taken, but I think the second image is sufficiently different from the first to have a degree of originality. But I did say my knowledge of copyright law is basic. This is the second infringement lawsuit brought by the same plaintiff against the same defendant regarding the same original image. The defendants previously entered into a license agreement to reproduce the original photo that ended up as a copyright infringement case between the parties due to a dispute regarding the amount of royalties due to the photographer. The court found for the plaintiff in that first case. The defendant then had a graphic design firm create a new image using the major design elements from the original image specifically to avoid paying the royalties due to the photographer from that first infringement case. The second image *IS* a copy of the first image. Not an exact copy, but a copy none-the-less. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I was just commenting to a friend that many of my photography friends were reaching the age where they are were finally buying that camera they always wanted. In that regard, the M9 would be high on my list. Not quite my situation. I owned Leica gear for many years prior to the digital era, only reason I sold it was that at the time (2001-2002) there was no confidence that Leica itself would survive at all *and* no good confidence that it would even be possible to make these lovely lenses work correctly with a digital sensor. AND there was the opportunity to sell off my Leica gear and buy into a Hassy Superwide and 500C/M setup, something I'd always wanted to try. I've simply returned to where I was a decade ago with the acquisition of the M4-2 and M9. Where I was a decade ago, albeit then with all Leica lenses at 1/4 the price it would cost me now. It will take a while to afford all the same lenses again if I find I really need/want them. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How would you answer THIS question?
From: Matthew Hunt On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Larry Colen, l...@red4est.com (From Droid) l...@red4est.com wrote: A tosser Caber or dwarf? Cookies -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Sand Sculpting
I also enjoyed them very much, Brian. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com: Wow! Those are amazing! And wonderfully captured by you. Fun gallery. Thanks, Flank. Glad you enjoyed it :-) And thanks to all who looked. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ --- Original Message --- From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org Sent: January 24, 2012 1/24/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO - Sand Sculpting G'day all Just a few shots from the sand sculpting competition being held at Windsor, New South Wales on the banks of the Hawkesbury River. I'm pretty much in awe of the artists involved - it's a long way from a plastic bucket at the beach! Each sculpture was created in 4 days using 20 tonnes of sand. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Windsor-Sand-Sculptures/index.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: When your motto is don't be evil, just maybe you are.
From: Bob W From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling *http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jn8rdj Makes me glad that pretty much the only Google service I use is Gmail. From the article: Consumers could also benefit, the company said. When someone is searching for the word jaguar, Google would have a better idea of whether the person was interested in the animal or the car. But what if you're searching for the word cougar? B SS-DD -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: What the heck is the release tab on a D-BG-1 battery grip?
From: Darren Addy Just bought a Pentax D-BG-1battery grip from KEH (bargain condition, $10). It was described as Release tab cracked/works. Trying to figure out what the Release tab is, since the D-BG1 operating manual uses no such language. Hoping it is something I can fix/reinforce that will allow me to extend its life. Anyone have any idea what they are referring to (or what part had a tendency to crack?) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska I would guess it's the little fold-up handle that locks/unlocks the battery tray. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Selective color
LOL. Thanks guys. I'm still shooting Pentax, with a K5 for the last year. Now what I would really like is for Pentax to jump on the retro bandwagon and make a full frame digital MX :) j On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 2:28 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: ... and I still hate you... On 1/25/2012 4:47 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: Given the recent copyright issue with that pic of a bus in London, I decided to come out of lurking mode to post a PESO: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=1935 I only do selective color when it I don't need software for it :) (Pentax K10D, forgot what lens I used) j -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG
Like I said, you're finally buying the camera I always wanted. ;-) On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I was just commenting to a friend that many of my photography friends were reaching the age where they are were finally buying that camera they always wanted. In that regard, the M9 would be high on my list. Not quite my situation. I owned Leica gear for many years prior to the digital era, only reason I sold it was that at the time (2001-2002) there was no confidence that Leica itself would survive at all *and* no good confidence that it would even be possible to make these lovely lenses work correctly with a digital sensor. AND there was the opportunity to sell off my Leica gear and buy into a Hassy Superwide and 500C/M setup, something I'd always wanted to try. I've simply returned to where I was a decade ago with the acquisition of the M4-2 and M9. Where I was a decade ago, albeit then with all Leica lenses at 1/4 the price it would cost me now. It will take a while to afford all the same lenses again if I find I really need/want them. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Selective color
Juan Buhler wrote: Given the recent copyright issue with that pic of a bus in London, I decided to come out of lurking mode to post a PESO: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=1935 I only do selective color when it I don't need software for it :) (Pentax K10D, forgot what lens I used) I saw that on Facebook not long ago. Stunning shot. Are you going to send it in to the PDML Photo Annual? :-) -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Sand Sculpting
Quoting Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: On 1/25/2012 1:43 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com: Wow! Those are amazing! And wonderfully captured by you. Fun gallery. Thanks, Flank. Would that mean Flank steak is a garden burger? Dunno - but it was a deliberate mistake (a reference to a post by Frank in another thread) :-) -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Sand Sculpting
Quoting Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com: I also enjoyed them very much, Brian. Thanks, Dan. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com: Wow! Those are amazing! And wonderfully captured by you. Fun gallery. Thanks, Flank. nbsp;Glad you enjoyed it :-) And thanks to all who looked. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ --- Original Message --- From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org Sent: January 24, 2012 1/24/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO - Sand Sculpting G'day all Just a few shots from the sand sculpting competition being held at Windsor, New South Wales on the banks of the Hawkesbury River. I'm pretty much in awe of the artists involved - it's a long way from a plastic bucket at the beach! Each sculpture was created in 4 days using 20 tonnes of sand. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Windsor-Sand-Sculptures/index.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Selective color
Ha ! good one, Juan -- or I could just say good Juan ann On 1/25/2012 16:47, Juan Buhler wrote: Given the recent copyright issue with that pic of a bus in London, I decided to come out of lurking mode to post a PESO: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=1935 I only do selective color when it I don't need software for it :) (Pentax K10D, forgot what lens I used) j -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Sand Sculpting
Terrific art and well captured, Brian. I guess they pray for drought there. :) On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day all Just a few shots from the sand sculpting competition being held at Windsor, New South Wales on the banks of the Hawkesbury River. I'm pretty much in awe of the artists involved - it's a long way from a plastic bucket at the beach! Each sculpture was created in 4 days using 20 tonnes of sand. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Windsor-Sand-Sculptures/index.html -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Selective color
Most excellent! On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Juan Buhler juanbuh...@gmail.com wrote: Given the recent copyright issue with that pic of a bus in London, I decided to come out of lurking mode to post a PESO: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=1935 I only do selective color when it I don't need software for it :) (Pentax K10D, forgot what lens I used) j -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
anyone in Topeka??
Once again, one of my poems is going to be performed in a high school program. If you live in the area and want more info, let me know -- you may have already seen it mentioned on your local TV station.. It has to do with the Cancer Poetry Project. it starts tomorrow, I think The work is called Richard Leaving and some of you know it already. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Selective color
That is a ~great~ photo! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Juan Buhler juanbuh...@gmail.com Sent: January 25, 2012 1/25/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Selective color Given the recent copyright issue with that pic of a bus in London, I decided to come out of lurking mode to post a PESO: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=1935 I only do selective color when it I don't need software for it :) (Pentax K10D, forgot what lens I used) j -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO 2012 - USS Hornet - GDG
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Like I said, you're finally buying the camera I always wanted. ;-) MARK! -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: anyone in Topeka??
Congratulations, Ann. It is nice to be appreciated, isn't it. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Once again, one of my poems is going to be performed in a high school program. If you live in the area and want more info, let me know -- you may have already seen it mentioned on your local TV station.. It has to do with the Cancer Poetry Project. it starts tomorrow, I think The work is called Richard Leaving and some of you know it already. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: How would you answer THIS question?
Probably - it's either a good photo or it's not. Choice of the medium is up to the taker, and that will be decided by a large number of factors, including suitability for purpose amongst others. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Darren Addy Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2012 1:25 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: How would you answer THIS question? I thought it would be amusing to hear your answer to this tweet that I saw this morning... (it was retweeted by a film proponent/processor). When i look at a photo, I always need to find out if film or digital. If digital, appeal of photo goes down. What does that make me? A snob? Looking forward to your thoughts/responses. :) Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Selective color
Wouldn't we all, well except for Godfrey... On 1/25/2012 6:25 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: LOL. Thanks guys. I'm still shooting Pentax, with a K5 for the last year. Now what I would really like is for Pentax to jump on the retro bandwagon and make a full frame digital MX :) j On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 2:28 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: ... and I still hate you... On 1/25/2012 4:47 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: Given the recent copyright issue with that pic of a bus in London, I decided to come out of lurking mode to post a PESO: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=1935 I only do selective color when it I don't need software for it :) (Pentax K10D, forgot what lens I used) j -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: anyone in Topeka??
Does anyone actually live in Topeka? Exist maybe. Other parts of Kansas might be all right though... On 1/25/2012 6:52 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Once again, one of my poems is going to be performed in a high school program. If you live in the area and want more info, let me know -- you may have already seen it mentioned on your local TV station.. It has to do with the Cancer Poetry Project. it starts tomorrow, I think The work is called Richard Leaving and some of you know it already. ann -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: anyone in Topeka??
I can say with some confidence that I will not be in Topeka. :-) But that is wonderful news. Congratulations! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com Sent: January 25, 2012 1/25/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: anyone in Topeka?? Once again, one of my poems is going to be performed in a high school program. If you live in the area and want more info, let me know -- you may have already seen it mentioned on your local TV station.. It has to do with the Cancer Poetry Project. it starts tomorrow, I think The work is called Richard Leaving and some of you know it already. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Selective color
On Jan 25, 2012, at 7:48 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Wouldn't we all, well except for Godfrey... And me. Why would I want a retro camera? The viewfinder would be nice, but that's about it. On 1/25/2012 6:25 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: LOL. Thanks guys. I'm still shooting Pentax, with a K5 for the last year. Now what I would really like is for Pentax to jump on the retro bandwagon and make a full frame digital MX :) j On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 2:28 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: ... and I still hate you... On 1/25/2012 4:47 PM, Juan Buhler wrote: Given the recent copyright issue with that pic of a bus in London, I decided to come out of lurking mode to post a PESO: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com/index.php?showimage=1935 I only do selective color when it I don't need software for it :) (Pentax K10D, forgot what lens I used) j -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: anyone in Topeka??
Excellent. Congratulations. Paul On Jan 25, 2012, at 6:52 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Once again, one of my poems is going to be performed in a high school program. If you live in the area and want more info, let me know -- you may have already seen it mentioned on your local TV station.. It has to do with the Cancer Poetry Project. it starts tomorrow, I think The work is called Richard Leaving and some of you know it already. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Sailor's Delight
Thanks, Steve and Ann! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I couldnt get it to enlarge the first time I looked... the fulls screen image is a WOW.. the nit picker in me would crop down from the top and some of the bottom left - I like the silhouettes , the constructed one as well.. but not so much the more lump stuff to the buildings left. ann On 1/24/2012 22:00, steve harley wrote: on 2012-01-21 17:12 Daniel J. Matyola wrote Red sky in the morning, sailor take warning; red sky at night, sailor's delight. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15026340 a guru's dream; would be stronger with the trees, but without the constructed shape; thanks for putting up a large version -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When your motto is don't be evil, just maybe you are.
FWIW, if you want to read the actual new policy, rather than the journo's take on it, it's pretty simple and short: http://www.google.com/policies/privacy/preview/ If someone finds something in there that seems evil, I'd like to hear about it, and I could relay such a finding to where people who matter would read it. When you're thinking about Google, it's helpful to bear in mind that G is really driven by two business motivations: - Make your experience at G satisfactory so you'll come back again - Increase the probability that you'll care about the ads you get shown. It's not obvious to me that being evil would actually help achieve either of those things, and there's not much else that G really cares about. -T On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 7:42 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: *http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jn8rdj Makes me glad that pretty much the only Google service I use is Gmail. (I usually search through startpage). Nobody should ever send me any e-mail they don't expect the whole world to eventually be able to read. * -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: We don't need no steenking beach chairs
Thanks, Larry, Frank, Brian and all who looked and commented. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com: Two young women dug into the sand to make their own beach chairs: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15039016 Comments and criticisms invited. Innovative use of sand Good 'lifestyle' catch. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: When your motto is don't be evil, just maybe you are.
I don't thing Google is evil. Neither do I think they are benevolent. I think they are benign. Their motivation is (as with any other commercial enterprise) to make money. I'm fine with that, but it's something that really must not be forgotten. All that being said, I don't think that Google will do anything bad with any info it collects on me, although I do find it rather disquieting that they can track me by my Android's movements. Hell, it's not in their best interests to piss off clients. No, what scares me is that they ~could~ do evil things with that info. Or more to the point if that information gets into the wrong hands it could be used for malevolent purposes. As well, the technology could easily get into the wrong hands and be mis-used. Lord knows there are plenty of hackers out there... Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com Sent: January 25, 2012 1/25/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: When your motto is don't be evil, just maybe you are. FWIW, if you want to read the actual new policy, rather than the journo's take on it, it's pretty simple and short: http://www.google.com/policies/privacy/preview/ If someone finds something in there that seems evil, I'd like to hear about it, and I could relay such a finding to where people who matter would read it. When you're thinking about Google, it's helpful to bear in mind that G is really driven by two business motivations: - Make your experience at G satisfactory so you'll come back again - Increase the probability that you'll care about the ads you get shown. It's not obvious to me that being evil would actually help achieve either of those things, and there's not much else that G really cares about. -T On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 7:42 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: *http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jn8rdj Makes me glad that pretty much the only Google service I use is Gmail. (I usually search through startpage). Nobody should ever send me any e-mail they don't expect the whole world to eventually be able to read. * -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Peso: Olde Tyme
My grandfather's gold pocket watch, form about 1965: http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/pdml/15174580_3zgwM8#!i=1686454339k=74x4rtLlb=1s=O It's a pretty thing and still works perfectly. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
