Re: K-r successor coming soon?

2012-03-20 Thread mike wilson

On 19/03/2012 19:53, Larry Colen wrote:


I think that the single biggest thing Pentax could do to sell more cameras is 
to get them into stores where people can buy them.


Would work for me, so Mark!


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OT Rallycross Caddy

2012-03-20 Thread Larry Colen
I ran across this picture taken with a POS cheap digicam.  I was riding in the 
back seat during a Rallycross:
http://www.red4est.com/jasmine/jaspix/rallyx.021124/caddy/pict0489.jpg

A few more of the day:
the car:
http://www.red4est.com/jasmine/jaspix/rallyx.021124/caddy/pict0504.jpg
http://www.red4est.com/jasmine/jaspix/rallyx.021124/caddy/pict0515.jpg
http://www.red4est.com/jasmine/jaspix/rallyx.021124/caddy/pict0517.jpg
http://www.red4est.com/jasmine/jaspix/rallyx.021124/caddy/pict0644.jpg

Unfortunately the supercharger on Jasmine put me in the unlimited class, even 
though I was on street tires:
http://www.purelyhip.com/i-club/rally-x/november2002/page/image121.html

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Re: Photographing artwork for prints

2012-03-20 Thread Anthony Farr
On 21 March 2012 13:00, Mark C  wrote:
> The second biggest challenge was getting the image exactly registered with
> the film plane - no perspective tilts.

Put at mirror on the copy plane.  When the lens's reflection is in the
centre of the viewfinder then you've got perfectly parallel image and
focal planes.  Re-position the artwork (without altering its tilt) to
centre up the framing, but don't move the camera again for this setup.
 Batch the paintings into similar sized groups to minimize the number
of setup changes you'll need.

Works with low textural relief can be treated as simple copies using
equal lights from each side, or from each corner if the work is larger
than 50cm a side.  If the work has high textural relief then light it
as a 3D object, but watch out for falloff of illumination, because the
light will be predominantly one-sided.  One trick is to feather the
light so that the bright centre of the beam is directed to the further
edge, while the nearer edge to the light gets the dimmer boundary of
the illumination circle.  Half of the light will be wasted, so be
careful that it doesn't reflect back into the copy area.  Use barn
doors if you can.  With care and luck the light spread will be even.
And, importantly, ensure that the light appears to come from "above",
i.e. the dominant light should come from the top edge of the artwork,
even if you've laid it down or have it hanging/standing sideways.

regards, Anthony

   "Of what use is lens and light
    to those who lack in mind and sight"
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Re: PUG - Restoring the Missing Galleries

2012-03-20 Thread David Mann
On Mar 20, 2012, at 6:22 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

>> I was just about getting used to those spiders, too (golden orb).
> 
> We have them here.  Beautiful creatures, except when they spin a web across a 
> well used path during the night and you walk into it next morning

Whenever I saw the webs I also saw the spider sitting right in the middle of 
it.  So walking through one would not be a pleasant experience!

I decided that we would not do any forest walks first thing in the morning.  
Let some other poor bastard clean up all the webs across the paths.  I still 
kept a very careful lookout...

Dave


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PESO: Watching Sunset #4

2012-03-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15380334

Comments are welcome.

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Re: PESO - A Scooter Named Desire

2012-03-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Cute title, and nice image.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:17 PM, frank theriault
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> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/03/scooter-named-desire.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Sorry about the title.  Comments always welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: OT-One of my pics at www.PlaneaDay.com

2012-03-20 Thread Jack Davis
Really nice shot. Love the darkish overcast sky. You appear to be somewhat 
above or at least on the same level as the plane. How did you get that angle?

Jack



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Subject: OT-One of my pics at www.PlaneaDay.com

I recently submitted some of my pics from an air show to
http://www.planeaday.com    They published one today. :-)

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Re: PUG - Restoring the Missing Galleries

2012-03-20 Thread William Robb

On 20/03/2012 9:38 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:





However, the pugmeister at the time was humbled enough to suggest a restart, and
Bill Robb took over as pugmeister/promoter/ring master of the circus.
The rest is history.
Looking at the old stuff, I miss some of those guys!

The PUGMeister when I took over was none other than Mark Cassino who was 
doing a very fine job of looking after the gallery. I was a mere cog in 
the machine, waiting, learning, and biding my time in the hope that one 
day I would be given the opportunity to serve as PUGMeister.

Or something...

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Re: PUG - Restoring the Missing Galleries

2012-03-20 Thread William Robb

On 19/03/2012 2:54 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

A project I've had in mind since taking over as PUG-meister, was to try
to find and restore the first few PUG galleries from 1997/98.

Great job. That was one of the projects I had always wanted to do but 
never found the time. When I was maintaining the PUG, it was all coded 
by hand, so it was rather time consuming.
I recall a bunch of files from what I presumed were the geocities days 
were in a directory called archives, I hadn't realized that was Igor's 
hand that had done that.


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Re: PESO - A Scooter Named Desire

2012-03-20 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 20, 2012, at 7:17 PM, frank theriault wrote:

> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/03/scooter-named-desire.html
> 
> Hope you enjoy.  Sorry about the title.  Comments always welcome.

Very nice job, excellent composition and rendering. 

I suspect that the photo would have worked well in color too.

> 

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Re: PUG - Restoring the Missing Galleries

2012-03-20 Thread Mark C

On 3/19/2012 4:54 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

A project I've had in mind since taking over as PUG-meister, was to 
try to find and restore the first few PUG galleries from 1997/98.


As 2012 is the PUG's 15th anniversary, I decided that now would be a 
good time. In any case, it hasn't stopped raining here for weeks so 
I've spent a lot more time at the computer than is usual...


In the 'Previous Galleries' page on Komkon, we already had all 
galleries back to March 1998. As it turned out, galleries from April 
1997 (the very first PUG) to August 1997 were, in fact, already stored 
away on the Komkon server.  They were just hidden away in the archives 
folder and not readily accessible.  Restoring those was a fairy simple 
exercise.


This left galleries from September 1997 to February 1998 still 
'missing'.  These were galleries stored on the now departed GeoCities 
system.


Enter - The Wayback Machine.

Fortunately, I had a web address for one of the GeoCities galleries 
and, by fiddling with the URLs I was able to locate galleries for Dec 
97, Jan 98 and Feb 98.


All of these galleries have now been restored to the 'Previous 
Galleries' page. So, what about Sep/Oct/Nov 97?  I don't know, but as 
they aren't in the archives and don't seem to be on the Wayback 
Machine, I'm guessing that there weren't any PUGs for those months.


If you want to take a look back at PDML history, check out these early 
PUGs at:


http://pug.komkon.org/general/pastgalleries.html

Remember - these were dial-up days when bandwidth for posting images 
was limited, so the images are very small by the standards of today's 
PUG.  And, of course, all were taken on film cameras and had to be 
scanned.


It's interesting to see who of today's regular PDMLers were active 
back then. Doug Brewer is the only name I recognise in the April 97 
gallery but JCO and Derby show up in May 97 with Luiz and Dario also 
appearing in '97.





Thanks for you work doing this - it was a great trip back through memory 
lane. Back in the 90's were were kind of leading the curve by having an 
online presence.


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Re: PESO - A Scooter Named Desire

2012-03-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Fun stuff. Nicely composed.
Paul
On Mar 20, 2012, at 10:24 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

> Great shot, Frank!
> 
> Love the white-walls, especially.
> 
> -- Walt
> 
> On 3/20/2012 9:17 PM, frank theriault wrote:
>> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/03/scooter-named-desire.html
>> 
>> Hope you enjoy.  Sorry about the title.  Comments always welcome.
>> 
>> cheers,
>> frank
>> 
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Re: Spring come slowly.

2012-03-20 Thread Mark C

On 3/19/2012 5:09 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:


Spring Comes Slowly to the Lake Land the ice goes out, the grass 
begins to green, the trees throw out hesitant buds and the hikers 
begin to hope.


Just a prosaic landscape open to C&C

http://donspix.posterous.com/spring-comes-slowly-to-the-lakeland-photo#!/

The 'brown season' can be a bear to photograph but you have done a nice 
job capturing it here. The high tones on the water and the lighting in 
the brown grass and early spring green grass is very good. The lines in 
the photo - the water, the mowed grass, the bridge - are a little 
zig-zaggy and lead the eye around, but the overall mood and painterly 
quality is great.


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Re: GESO "Call me a cab!"

2012-03-20 Thread Mark C
Very impressive set of images. The lighting and color is spot you. Your 
attention to detail in the costume, props, and of course posing and 
composition is really impressive. I'm not a studio photog and aside form 
a couple of classes have never played around in the studio - but from 
the little experience I've had in the arena I can appreciate the amount 
of effort it takes to make photos like these. The one minor nit I would 
have is with the backgrounds - the halo effect around the model in the 
first two is a little distracting and the way the white backdrop blends 
with the carpet in the third shots tends to draw my eye to that and away 
from the more interesting elements in the frame. But - minor nits, these 
are very high caliber shots and evidence a lot of planning, hard work, 
and skill.


Mark C.

On 3/19/2012 4:25 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

For the studio fans (all four of you): two more finished images in my
Postmodern Pinups project:
http://goo.gl/udU3k

I had hoped to get to more of last week's Posing Workshop shoot, but
learning how to do decent background extraction using a copy of the
blue channel in Ps took up all my spare weekend time.

By the way, I had an unbelievable Duh! moment. With a flash of utter
brilliance, I rotated my second monitor, an older Dell LCD, to
portrait position and was able to edit these portrait orientation
images so as to completely cover the now vertical screen, increasing
their area roughly 400%! I have had this monitor now for about 6 years
and this is the very first fecking time I've thought to do that. Live
and -- eventually -- learn. It's like buying a brand new 30" monitor,
for portraits anyway.

Kit:
K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8, ISO 100.
4 Bowens 400WS strobes, 2 barn-doored on backdrop; 2 in 42" gridded softboxes.
Lr, Ps.

Thanks to Bob W for the "Postmodern" moniker.

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Re: PESO - A Scooter Named Desire

2012-03-20 Thread Walt Gilbert

Great shot, Frank!

Love the white-walls, especially.

-- Walt

On 3/20/2012 9:17 PM, frank theriault wrote:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/03/scooter-named-desire.html

Hope you enjoy.  Sorry about the title.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Fishy Daffy

2012-03-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like it. Very dramatic.

On Mar 20, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

> We interrupt this program of pix from Lancaster to bring you one taken today 
> on the way to work:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15392295&size=lg
> 
> (K-7, DA 10-17 fisheye, about 2cm from the flower, between puffs of wind)
> 
> Comments craved.
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Re: Dick Johnson, RIP

2012-03-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Doug. I'm very careful these days. Quit drinking a couple of months ago, 
so I'm kind of boring and hopelessly in control.

Paul

On Mar 20, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

> On 3/20/12 5:30 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15391056
>> 
>> I shot Dick Johnson, my boss and good friend, about a dozen years ago while 
>> he was critiquing the television scripts that had been hung on the wall of 
>> BBDO's war room.  Last night, he passed away after a long bout with cardiac 
>> problems.He was a brilliant and witty man who served as creative director on 
>> the Dodge national advertising account from the late eighties through about 
>> 2001, He took the brand from an also ran to a place o prominence in the U.S. 
>> automobile market and was loved by both his staff and the clients. He had a 
>> knack for managing the creative team, of which I was a member for most of 
>> those years. He'd stay out of our way until he sensed it was time to get 
>> involved, then he'd simply say "let's gather." He always professed that he 
>> had done okay for a guy whose two names were both synonyms for the male sex 
>> organ. He was well known in the industry for both the work that his teams 
>> turned out and the parties he hosted: adult beverages, no spouses, cab rides 
>> home. 
> We will honor his passing at a service, but in keeping with his wishes, we 
> will also bid him adieu with a long night of heavy partying. Cabs will be 
> provided.
>> 
>> Paul
> 
> So sorry to read this about your friend, Paul. He sounds like he a lot of 
> fun, and I think you and the others will be doing him a great honor. Just 
> please be careful.
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Re: Dick Johnson, RIP

2012-03-20 Thread Walt Gilbert

On 3/20/2012 4:30 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15391056

I shot Dick Johnson, my boss and good friend, about a dozen years ago while he was 
critiquing the television scripts that had been hung on the wall of BBDO's war room.  
Last night, he passed away after a long bout with cardiac problems.He was a brilliant and 
witty man who served as creative director on the Dodge national advertising account from 
the late eighties through about 2001, He took the brand from an also ran to a place o 
prominence in the U.S. automobile market and was loved by both his staff and the clients. 
He had a knack for managing the creative team, of which I was a member for most of those 
years. He'd stay out of our way until he sensed it was time to get involved, then he'd 
simply say "let's gather." He always professed that he had done okay for a guy 
whose two names were both synonyms for the male sex organ. He was well known in the 
industry for both the work that his teams turned out and the parties he hosted: adult 
beverages, no spouses, cab rides home. We will honor his passing at a service, but in 
keeping with his wishes, we will also bid him adieu with a long night of heavy partying. 
Cabs will be provided.

Paul
My sincerest condolences to you and all he knew and loved him, Paul. 
I'll tip one back in his name next time I get out.


-- Walt


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PESO - A Scooter Named Desire

2012-03-20 Thread frank theriault
http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/03/scooter-named-desire.html

Hope you enjoy.  Sorry about the title.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
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Re: Photographing artwork for prints

2012-03-20 Thread Mark C
I did this kind of project once,some time ago. I shot  slides of the 
paintings, scanned them, matched up the colors in the scans and sold the 
files to the artist. The biggest challenge was matching up the colors - 
I used a netural daylight balanced slide film and shot under natural 
light - fortunately the artist had a studio with a skylight and diffuse 
natural light. The second biggest challenge was getting the image 
exactly registered with the film plane - no perspective tilts. Regarding 
rights - this is one situation where I'd sell the full rights to the 
photo. Since I didn't have rights to use an image of someone else's work 
for my use, the exposures were of no use to me. I'm sure some of the 
prints sold well, others did not. Whether they sold or not had little to 
do with my photography but everything to do with the original image. We 
agreed to fair compensation for my services, I did the ob, and that was 
that.


It was a fun project.

Mark C.

On 3/20/2012 3:05 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

Hello all, and happy spring!

I come to you again, seeking wisdom...  I've had an inquiry from a
client about photographing artwork (painted canvases) for the purpose
of creating prints... for sale.  A couple of issues come to mind:

1) The actual photography... I'm assuming hi-resolution is the name of
the game here.  Not sure yet how big they want to go with prints... I
think some of the actual canvases are fairly large (30 x40?)
themselves.  From the research I've done, I'd think my K-5 is up to
the task... Should I consider renting a larger-format camera?
Alternatively,  at what point should I consider 'stitching" images
together for large pieces?

2) Rights.  So, this where I really have no idea...  my standard
agreement doesn't provide for the sale of my images by clients.  How
does that work?  I'm reading up -
http://asmp.org/tutorials/licensing-guide.html has been helpful, btw -
but has anyone out there ever taken on this kind of project or
provided that kind of license?

Any thoughts or experiences you have to share are very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

-c




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PESO: Hold Still

2012-03-20 Thread Walt Gilbert

Hi all,

One of the good things about the Front Porch Photography thing is that 
it's easy to get to, and every time you do it, you increase your odds of 
getting a good shot. I was pretty happy with it and just wanted to share 
it. I shot it with my K-x fitted with the Tokina 28-200 f/3.5-5.3 manual 
focus zoom which I've really grown fond of in recent days. Here's what I 
got late this afternoon.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7001663069/
f/6.3, 1/125 sec, ISO 250

Thanks for looking! Comments and suggestions are appreciated as always.

-- Walt

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Re: OT-One of my pics at www.PlaneaDay.com

2012-03-20 Thread Rick Womer
That's a great pic, against a very dramatic sky.


Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


- Original Message -
From: Walter Hamler 
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Subject: OT-One of my pics at www.PlaneaDay.com

I recently submitted some of my pics from an air show to
http://www.planeaday.com    They published one today. :-)

Walt

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PESO - Fishy Daffy

2012-03-20 Thread Rick Womer
We interrupt this program of pix from Lancaster to bring you one taken today on 
the way to work:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15392295&size=lg

(K-7, DA 10-17 fisheye, about 2cm from the flower, between puffs of wind)

Comments craved.

Rick

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Re: Dick Johnson, RIP

2012-03-20 Thread Doug Brewer

On 3/20/12 5:30 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15391056

I shot Dick Johnson, my boss and good friend, about a dozen years ago while he was critiquing the television scripts that had been hung on the wall of BBDO's war room.  Last night, he passed away after a long bout with cardiac problems.He was a brilliant and witty man who served as creative director on the Dodge national advertising account from the late eighties through about 2001, He took the brand from an also ran to a place o prominence in the U.S. automobile market and was loved by both his staff and the clients. He had a knack for managing the creative team, of which I was a member for most of those years. He'd stay out of our way until he sensed it was time to get involved, then he'd simply say "let's gather." He always professed that he had done okay for a guy whose two names were both synonyms for the male sex organ. He was well known in the industry for both the work that his teams turned out and the parties he hosted: adult beverages, no spouses, cab rides home. 

We will honor his passing at a service, but in keeping with his wishes, we will 
also bid him adieu with a long night of heavy partying. Cabs will be provided.


Paul


So sorry to read this about your friend, Paul. He sounds like he a lot 
of fun, and I think you and the others will be doing him a great honor. 
Just please be careful.


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Re: Photographing artwork for prints

2012-03-20 Thread David Parsons
Unless the contract specifically states that you are working under a
work-for-hire, you shouldn't assume that the job is automatically WFH.
 The Copyright act has very specific conditions that qualify for WFH.

http://masslawblog.com/copyright/the-work-for-hire-trap/

http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ09.pdf#search=%22work%20for%20hire%20nine%20categories%20copyright%20act%22

The short answer, talk to a lawyer that is versed in copyright or IP law.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 7:02 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

> Assuming the client owns the rights to the artwork, I think you're looking
> at "work for hire", and the person who is hiring the work done will own the
> rights to the photographs. You may want to retain some rights to use the
> image for self promotion. All that should be spelled out in detail in the
> contract.

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Re: PUG - Restoring the Missing Galleries

2012-03-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Great fun. Thanks for your efforts, Brian. 

On Mar 20, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

> 
> 
> Ok, I guess it's time for me to chime in.
> 
> First, I will refer to my 2-year old post to PDML where
> I described my recollections about the PUG history.
> http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg480710.html
> 
>> As it turned out, galleries from April
>> 1997 (the very first PUG) to August 1997 were, in fact, already stored
>> away on the Komkon server.  They were just hidden away in the archives
>> folder and not readily accessible.  Restoring those was a fairy simple
>> exercise.
> 
> The secret of those galleries was that
> I saved them by mirroring them from the geocities just before that site 
> became defunct. I was trying to find the rest, asked Doug Brewer about
> them, but he didn't have them or didn't respond.. I don't remember.
> 
> Brian, I am glad you were able to find some of the missing ones.
> 
> Igor
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Messaggio originale- 
> From: Brian Walters
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 9:54 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: PUG - Restoring the Missing Galleries
> 
> G'day all
> 
> A project I've had in mind since taking over as PUG-meister, was to
> try to find and restore the first few PUG galleries from 1997/98.
> 
> As 2012 is the PUG's 15th anniversary, I decided that now would be a
> good time. In any case, it hasn't stopped raining here for weeks so
> I've spent a lot more time at the computer than is usual...
> 
> In the 'Previous Galleries' page on Komkon, we already had all
> galleries back to March 1998. As it turned out, galleries from April
> 1997 (the very first PUG) to August 1997 were, in fact, already stored
> away on the Komkon server.  They were just hidden away in the archives
> folder and not readily accessible.  Restoring those was a fairy simple
> exercise.
> 
> This left galleries from September 1997 to February 1998 still
> 'missing'.  These were galleries stored on the now departed GeoCities
> system.
> 
> Enter - The Wayback Machine.
> 
> Fortunately, I had a web address for one of the GeoCities galleries
> and, by fiddling with the URLs I was able to locate galleries for Dec
> 97, Jan 98 and Feb 98.
> 
> All of these galleries have now been restored to the 'Previous
> Galleries' page. So, what about Sep/Oct/Nov 97?  I don't know, but as
> they aren't in the archives and don't seem to be on the Wayback
> Machine, I'm guessing that there weren't any PUGs for those months.
> 
> If you want to take a look back at PDML history, check out these early
> PUGs at:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/pastgalleries.html
> 
> Remember - these were dial-up days when bandwidth for posting images
> was limited, so the images are very small by the standards of today's
> PUG.  And, of course, all were taken on film cameras and had to be
> scanned.
> 
> It's interesting to see who of today's regular PDMLers were active
> back then. Doug Brewer is the only name I recognise in the April 97
> gallery but JCO and Derby show up in May 97 with Luiz and Dario also
> appearing in '97.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: OT-One of my pics at www.PlaneaDay.com

2012-03-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Excellent shot!  Congratulations.
Paul
On Mar 20, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> Great.
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Walter Hamler  wrote:
>> I was on the ground, Dan. Wish I were up there , but they were flying
>> pretty close to the crowd. And, the 300mm equivalent lens on the m4/3
>> camera brought them in close.
>> I got some great shots of a B2 Stealth bomber as well. They may be
>> published in future dates, I'm hoping.
>> 
>> Walt
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  
>> wrote:
>>> Congratulations!  That is a fine image.  What were you in when you
>>> made that shot?
>>> 
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Walter Hamler  
>>> wrote:
 I recently submitted some of my pics from an air show to
 http://www.planeaday.comThey published one today. :-)
 
 Walt
 
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Re: OT-One of my pics at www.PlaneaDay.com

2012-03-20 Thread Walt Gilbert

That's great!

I'd be very proud to have taken that shot.

-- Walt G.

On 3/20/2012 6:58 PM, Walter Hamler wrote:

I was on the ground, Dan. Wish I were up there , but they were flying
pretty close to the crowd. And, the 300mm equivalent lens on the m4/3
camera brought them in close.
I got some great shots of a B2 Stealth bomber as well. They may be
published in future dates, I'm hoping.

Walt

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

Congratulations!  That is a fine image.  What were you in when you
made that shot?

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Walter Hamler  wrote:

I recently submitted some of my pics from an air show to
http://www.planeaday.comThey published one today. :-)

Walt

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Re: OT-One of my pics at www.PlaneaDay.com

2012-03-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Great.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



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> I was on the ground, Dan. Wish I were up there , but they were flying
> pretty close to the crowd. And, the 300mm equivalent lens on the m4/3
> camera brought them in close.
> I got some great shots of a B2 Stealth bomber as well. They may be
> published in future dates, I'm hoping.
>
> Walt
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  
> wrote:
>> Congratulations!  That is a fine image.  What were you in when you
>> made that shot?
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Walter Hamler  
>> wrote:
>>> I recently submitted some of my pics from an air show to
>>> http://www.planeaday.com    They published one today. :-)
>>>
>>> Walt
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Re: PUG - Restoring the Missing Galleries

2012-03-20 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 07:54:34AM +1100, Brian Walters wrote:
> G'day all
> 
> If you want to take a look back at PDML history, check out these
> early PUGs at:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/pastgalleries.html

Looks like my first entry was in June 1998.
Sounds about right to me.


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Re: OT-One of my pics at www.PlaneaDay.com

2012-03-20 Thread Walter Hamler
I was on the ground, Dan. Wish I were up there , but they were flying
pretty close to the crowd. And, the 300mm equivalent lens on the m4/3
camera brought them in close.
I got some great shots of a B2 Stealth bomber as well. They may be
published in future dates, I'm hoping.

Walt

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> Congratulations!  That is a fine image.  What were you in when you
> made that shot?
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Walter Hamler  wrote:
>> I recently submitted some of my pics from an air show to
>> http://www.planeaday.com    They published one today. :-)
>>
>> Walt
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RE: Photographing artwork for prints

2012-03-20 Thread John Sessoms

From: Christine Nielsen


Hello all, and happy spring!

I come to you again, seeking wisdom...  I've had an inquiry from a
client about photographing artwork (painted canvases) for the purpose
of creating prints... for sale.  A couple of issues come to mind:

1) The actual photography... I'm assuming hi-resolution is the name of
the game here.  Not sure yet how big they want to go with prints... I
think some of the actual canvases are fairly large (30 x40?)
themselves.  From the research I've done, I'd think my K-5 is up to
the task... Should I consider renting a larger-format camera?
Alternatively,  at what point should I consider 'stitching" images
together for large pieces?

2) Rights.  So, this where I really have no idea...  my standard
agreement doesn't provide for the sale of my images by clients.  How
does that work?  I'm reading up -
http://asmp.org/tutorials/licensing-guide.html has been helpful, btw -
but has anyone out there ever taken on this kind of project or
provided that kind of license?

Any thoughts or experiences you have to share are very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,


1. First of all, consider the resolution of the print & how the print is 
going to be made. A 30x40 print at 300ppi is 9000x12000 pixels.


K-5 sensor 4928x3264
300ppi - 16.42"x10.88"
240ppi - 20.5"x13.6"
150ppi - 32.85"x21.76"

I included 240ppi because I believe that's the default resolution 
recommended for Epson printers. Take that with a grain of salt, I'm not 
certain about it.


When I was running the photo-lab, I could make an acceptable print on 
Kodak glossy paper (C-print, aka RA-4 photographic print) with as little 
as 150ppi given the right image.


If you want a 30x40 @ 300ppi resolution without up-scaling you'd likely 
have to stitch. Figure at least 3x3; 4x4 might be even better.


2. First question, does the person who wants you to photograph the 
artwork own the rights to the artwork? Is this client the painter or 
someone who bought the painting?


Assuming the client owns the rights to the artwork, I think you're 
looking at "work for hire", and the person who is hiring the work done 
will own the rights to the photographs. You may want to retain some 
rights to use the image for self promotion. All that should be spelled 
out in detail in the contract.


Charge accordingly for the taking and for the post-process assembling 
the print-ready image.


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K-5 battery

2012-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
When ever i buy a new camera, Nikon, Pentax or Canon, i run the
supplied battery right into the ground and see how many images i get.
The K-5 died at our club meeting, just after taking a group shot.

My fully charged Pentax battery gave me 370 photos, each with an LCD
chimp, 4 20" movies and a number of menu look sees and such.

Not bad i suppose.

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Re: OT-One of my pics at www.PlaneaDay.com

2012-03-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Congratulations!  That is a fine image.  What were you in when you
made that shot?

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> I recently submitted some of my pics from an air show to
> http://www.planeaday.com    They published one today. :-)
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Re: PUG - Restoring the Missing Galleries

2012-03-20 Thread Igor Roshchin


Ok, I guess it's time for me to chime in.

First, I will refer to my 2-year old post to PDML where
I described my recollections about the PUG history.
http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg480710.html

> As it turned out, galleries from April
> 1997 (the very first PUG) to August 1997 were, in fact, already stored
> away on the Komkon server.  They were just hidden away in the archives
> folder and not readily accessible.  Restoring those was a fairy simple
> exercise.

The secret of those galleries was that
I saved them by mirroring them from the geocities just before that site 
became defunct. I was trying to find the rest, asked Doug Brewer about
them, but he didn't have them or didn't respond.. I don't remember.

Brian, I am glad you were able to find some of the missing ones.

Igor





-Messaggio originale- 
From: Brian Walters
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 9:54 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: PUG - Restoring the Missing Galleries

G'day all

A project I've had in mind since taking over as PUG-meister, was to
try to find and restore the first few PUG galleries from 1997/98.

As 2012 is the PUG's 15th anniversary, I decided that now would be a
good time. In any case, it hasn't stopped raining here for weeks so
I've spent a lot more time at the computer than is usual...

In the 'Previous Galleries' page on Komkon, we already had all
galleries back to March 1998. As it turned out, galleries from April
1997 (the very first PUG) to August 1997 were, in fact, already stored
away on the Komkon server.  They were just hidden away in the archives
folder and not readily accessible.  Restoring those was a fairy simple
exercise.

This left galleries from September 1997 to February 1998 still
'missing'.  These were galleries stored on the now departed GeoCities
system.

Enter - The Wayback Machine.

Fortunately, I had a web address for one of the GeoCities galleries
and, by fiddling with the URLs I was able to locate galleries for Dec
97, Jan 98 and Feb 98.

All of these galleries have now been restored to the 'Previous
Galleries' page. So, what about Sep/Oct/Nov 97?  I don't know, but as
they aren't in the archives and don't seem to be on the Wayback
Machine, I'm guessing that there weren't any PUGs for those months.

If you want to take a look back at PDML history, check out these early
PUGs at:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/pastgalleries.html

Remember - these were dial-up days when bandwidth for posting images
was limited, so the images are very small by the standards of today's
PUG.  And, of course, all were taken on film cameras and had to be
scanned.

It's interesting to see who of today's regular PDMLers were active
back then. Doug Brewer is the only name I recognise in the April 97
gallery but JCO and Derby show up in May 97 with Luiz and Dario also
appearing in '97.




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Re: OT-One of my pics at www.PlaneaDay.com

2012-03-20 Thread Bruce Walker
Wow, nice, Walt. That's a beauty!

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Walter Hamler  wrote:
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> I recently submitted some of my pics from an air show to
> http://www.planeaday.com    They published one today. :-)
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OT-One of my pics at www.PlaneaDay.com

2012-03-20 Thread Walter Hamler
I recently submitted some of my pics from an air show to
http://www.planeaday.comThey published one today. :-)

Walt

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Dick Johnson, RIP

2012-03-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15391056

I shot Dick Johnson, my boss and good friend, about a dozen years ago while he 
was critiquing the television scripts that had been hung on the wall of BBDO's 
war room.  Last night, he passed away after a long bout with cardiac 
problems.He was a brilliant and witty man who served as creative director on 
the Dodge national advertising account from the late eighties through about 
2001, He took the brand from an also ran to a place o prominence in the U.S. 
automobile market and was loved by both his staff and the clients. He had a 
knack for managing the creative team, of which I was a member for most of those 
years. He'd stay out of our way until he sensed it was time to get involved, 
then he'd simply say "let's gather." He always professed that he had done okay 
for a guy whose two names were both synonyms for the male sex organ. He was 
well known in the industry for both the work that his teams turned out and the 
parties he hosted: adult beverages, no spouses, cab rides home. We will honor 
his passing at a service, but in keeping with his wishes, we will also bid him 
adieu with a long night of heavy partying. Cabs will be provided.

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Re: PESO: Daffy Day

2012-03-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Dave. And thanks to all who commented or had a look.

On Mar 20, 2012, at 10:03 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

> Great shot
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Paul Stenquist  
> wrote:
>> The first daffodil bloomed today. Earliest by at least ten days for my 20 
>> years in Michigan, and within a day of the earliest I ever saw them in New 
>> Jersey. After hundreds of daffodil pics, tried for a bit of a different look 
>> here. Had the DA* 60-250 mounted, so I used it. f11, IS) 400, 1/250th, 250 
>> mm.
>> 
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Pentax to replace K-01 with K-02

2012-03-20 Thread P. J. Alling
with features that Pentax users actually want and improved ergonomics, 
eventually...


and yes I am bored, thank you very much.

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Re: Photographing artwork for prints

2012-03-20 Thread Mark Roberts
AlunFoto wrote:

>Hi Christine,
>I'm working on a project to record the works of my great granddad, to
>be represented in an exhibition in Lofoten in June. It's as Peter
>says, colour is critical. I use a grey card thingy from Lastolite to
>shoot a reference shot, and then adjust WB in post. According to the
>printer guy it works pretty well. He also appreciates that I use
>ProPhotoRGB in Lightroom for my colour space, and says it gives him
>the latitude he needs.
>
>I believe the K-5 would suffice for most paintings. It depends on
>their size, really. In my case all the reproductions will be in 1:1,
>so I guess anything over two square meters of canvas could deserve a
>stitchup of two or more shots. For my own part I use the 645D since I
>can, but I would have got by with K-5.
>
>My usual "trick" for lighting is to place the paintings on the floor
>and position the camera perpendicularly above on a tall tripod. If
>possible I do it in a room with a white-painted ceiling to bounce a
>flash off. It works pretty well in most cases. Avoid having other
>bright light sources around if you can.
>
>I bought my edition of "Light; Science and magic" in 1989. Possibly my
>best photographic investment, even though -or perhaps because- I
>mostly use ambient light. :-)

The only thing I'd add to this is that you need to see the paintings
and know how the artist works  before choosing a lighting set up -
some painters use techniques like palette knife, or even just very
heavily loaded brushes, which make their paintings' texture vitally
important to the look: They can be quite literally three-dimensional
works of art. In cases like this you'll need some amount of side
lighting to show the effect accurately.
 
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Re: Posterous acquired by Twitter

2012-03-20 Thread Walt Gilbert

On 3/20/2012 3:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Mar 20, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


One of my former law partners (now deceased) wrote to a judge "I
intended to write a much shorter brief, but I didn't have the time."

One thing that writing and photography share in common, is that so often the 
best way to improve either is by taking stuff out, rather than putting it in.

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That's quite true. And I say that from the regrettable perspective of 
being a long-winded, edit-on-the-fly writer with an aversion to 
proof-reading.


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Re: Photographing artwork for prints

2012-03-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Once upon a time, I did a lot of art capture—primarily for the artists
to have good quality images of their work for their portfolio and for
exhibition submission use.

As PJ said, the biggest problems in capture are how to obtain the same
colors in the photographic reproduction as are in the original art (in
the film days, this was a freakkin' nightmare) and all the usual
concerns of doing small and large scale copy work with respect to
proper lighting, elimination of glare, etc etc. Whether you need a
larger, higher resolution camera for the job has to do with what the
clients' end purpose for the photographs might be. If the originals
are 30x40 inch and they want to make same size 30x40 inch reproduction
prints from the photographs, you're going to need a lot of pixel
resolution to achieve the detailing of the original ... if that's
important. However, if the goal is to make more modest repros and the
target isn't necessarily such a high resolution output, you can get
away with a lot less.

Regards licensing, if they are looking for the photographs as a means
to generate reproductions for sale, then you are looking at an
exclusive license with open reproduction/redistribution rights, or you
want them to buy the originals and rights to use them at their need.
At which point you set your price for the job based not on a
time-based license use but on the hours it takes to complete the job
to spec, the equipment needed, and the amount of revenue you might
expect from license sales of the photos. Generally speaking, unless
you have a license from an artist to make reproductions of their
original art for re-distribution, you can't resell or license them
anyway.

I usually just figure it as an hourly billable job and retain only the
rights to use the captures in my portfolio and marketing efforts,
giving the client full reign to use the products of the job for
whatever purposes they deem important. I deliver the products, as
described in the contract, to them and that's that ... I retain a copy
purely as backup, not as part of my 'stock in trade for sale and
licensing.' If they need additional work done with them by me after
the fact, that's just more billable hours if/when it comes up.

My overriding notion in maintaining good client relationships: Keep It
As Simple As Possible But No Simpler. Funny, I think Einstein said
something like that about cosmology... :-)

G

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
> Hello all, and happy spring!
>
> I come to you again, seeking wisdom...  I've had an inquiry from a
> client about photographing artwork (painted canvases) for the purpose
> of creating prints... for sale.  A couple of issues come to mind:
>
> 1) The actual photography... I'm assuming hi-resolution is the name of
> the game here.  Not sure yet how big they want to go with prints... I
> think some of the actual canvases are fairly large (30 x40?)
> themselves.  From the research I've done, I'd think my K-5 is up to
> the task... Should I consider renting a larger-format camera?
> Alternatively,  at what point should I consider 'stitching" images
> together for large pieces?
>
> 2) Rights.  So, this where I really have no idea...  my standard
> agreement doesn't provide for the sale of my images by clients.  How
> does that work?  I'm reading up -
> http://asmp.org/tutorials/licensing-guide.html has been helpful, btw -
> but has anyone out there ever taken on this kind of project or
> provided that kind of license?
>
> Any thoughts or experiences you have to share are very much appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -c
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Re: Posterous acquired by Twitter

2012-03-20 Thread Larry Colen

On Mar 20, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> One of my former law partners (now deceased) wrote to a judge "I
> intended to write a much shorter brief, but I didn't have the time."

One thing that writing and photography share in common, is that so often the 
best way to improve either is by taking stuff out, rather than putting it in.

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Re: Photographing artwork for prints

2012-03-20 Thread AlunFoto
Hi Christine,
I'm working on a project to record the works of my great granddad, to
be represented in an exhibition in Lofoten in June. It's as Peter
says, colour is critical. I use a grey card thingy from Lastolite to
shoot a reference shot, and then adjust WB in post. According to the
printer guy it works pretty well. He also appreciates that I use
ProPhotoRGB in Lightroom for my colour space, and says it gives him
the latitude he needs.

I believe the K-5 would suffice for most paintings. It depends on
their size, really. In my case all the reproductions will be in 1:1,
so I guess anything over two square meters of canvas could deserve a
stitchup of two or more shots. For my own part I use the 645D since I
can, but I would have got by with K-5.

My usual "trick" for lighting is to place the paintings on the floor
and position the camera perpendicularly above on a tall tripod. If
possible I do it in a room with a white-painted ceiling to bounce a
flash off. It works pretty well in most cases. Avoid having other
bright light sources around if you can.

I bought my edition of "Light; Science and magic" in 1989. Possibly my
best photographic investment, even though -or perhaps because- I
mostly use ambient light. :-)

best,
Jostein

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Re: Photographing artwork for prints

2012-03-20 Thread Christine Nielsen
Just so happens, Light: Science & Magic has been my bedtime reading
(works great!) lately.  A very good resource, that one.   :)

Funny you should mention work for hire... I was reading about those
distinctions the other day for some other reason, and remember
gleaning that it was something to avoid, for my purposes at the time.
But, maybe this is the perfect application of the concept.  As you
say, I have no real need of the "copy" of their artwork...  I'm just
in unfamiliar territory with this request & want to make sure I give
them a reasonable quote.

Thanks!

-c

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 3:28 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> Your biggest problem will be getting the colors in the prints to come close
> enough to the colors in the painting, The sensor will be out of gamut.  The
> second will be glare off the paints which will can be a bitch to remove.
>  There are all kinds of methods none will work in every instance.  You know
> I hate to recommend this but you should find a book on copy photography.
>  There are a few out there and the   Resolution?  The first time I did this
> digitally it was with the *ist D.  So a larger format camera than the k-5 is
> probably not necessary unless your client want's larger than life size
> prints.  Rights, this is work for hire, you don't have any rights.  You can
> probably insist on getting limited rights for yourself to show off as
> samples of your work.  Somewhere I have a sample contract, though I don't
> know where it is.  I work these on a handshake basis.  I have no particular
> wish to claim anyone else' work as my own so it's easy not to violate.  I
> find most artists don't want paperwork, it can lead to taxes.
>
>
> On 3/20/2012 3:05 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:
>>
>> Hello all, and happy spring!
>>
>> I come to you again, seeking wisdom...  I've had an inquiry from a
>> client about photographing artwork (painted canvases) for the purpose
>> of creating prints... for sale.  A couple of issues come to mind:
>>
>> 1) The actual photography... I'm assuming hi-resolution is the name of
>> the game here.  Not sure yet how big they want to go with prints... I
>> think some of the actual canvases are fairly large (30 x40?)
>> themselves.  From the research I've done, I'd think my K-5 is up to
>> the task... Should I consider renting a larger-format camera?
>> Alternatively,  at what point should I consider 'stitching" images
>> together for large pieces?
>>
>> 2) Rights.  So, this where I really have no idea...  my standard
>> agreement doesn't provide for the sale of my images by clients.  How
>> does that work?  I'm reading up -
>> http://asmp.org/tutorials/licensing-guide.html has been helpful, btw -
>> but has anyone out there ever taken on this kind of project or
>> provided that kind of license?
>>
>> Any thoughts or experiences you have to share are very much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> -c
>>
>
>
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Re: Photographing artwork for prints

2012-03-20 Thread P. J. Alling
Your biggest problem will be getting the colors in the prints to come 
close enough to the colors in the painting, The sensor will be out of 
gamut.  The second will be glare off the paints which will can be a 
bitch to remove.  There are all kinds of methods none will work in every 
instance.  You know I hate to recommend this but you should find a book 
on copy photography.  There are a few out there and the   Resolution?  
The first time I did this digitally it was with the *ist D.  So a larger 
format camera than the k-5 is probably not necessary unless your client 
want's larger than life size prints.  Rights, this is work for hire, you 
don't have any rights.  You can probably insist on getting limited 
rights for yourself to show off as samples of your work.  Somewhere I 
have a sample contract, though I don't know where it is.  I work these 
on a handshake basis.  I have no particular wish to claim anyone else' 
work as my own so it's easy not to violate.  I find most artists don't 
want paperwork, it can lead to taxes.


On 3/20/2012 3:05 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

Hello all, and happy spring!

I come to you again, seeking wisdom...  I've had an inquiry from a
client about photographing artwork (painted canvases) for the purpose
of creating prints... for sale.  A couple of issues come to mind:

1) The actual photography... I'm assuming hi-resolution is the name of
the game here.  Not sure yet how big they want to go with prints... I
think some of the actual canvases are fairly large (30 x40?)
themselves.  From the research I've done, I'd think my K-5 is up to
the task... Should I consider renting a larger-format camera?
Alternatively,  at what point should I consider 'stitching" images
together for large pieces?

2) Rights.  So, this where I really have no idea...  my standard
agreement doesn't provide for the sale of my images by clients.  How
does that work?  I'm reading up -
http://asmp.org/tutorials/licensing-guide.html has been helpful, btw -
but has anyone out there ever taken on this kind of project or
provided that kind of license?

Any thoughts or experiences you have to share are very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

-c




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Re: Spring come slowly.

2012-03-20 Thread Don Guthrie

From: "knarftheria...@gmail.com" 
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Subject: RE: Spring come slowly.
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The snow's gone but the fields are just not quite ready (despite the 
unseasonably warm temperatures) to don their spring colours just yet.

That is beautiful photo! Compelling composition.

Cheers,
frank


Thanks Frank. Just talking about Spring read like poetry.



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On Mar 20, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:


http://donspix.posterous.com/spring-comes-slowly-to-the-lakeland-photo#!/

Nice, I'm really pining to run that trail, wherever it goes.  Actually I'm 
pining to run any trail at the moment.

I have a followup appointment with my sports doc tomorrow, followed with a 
podiatrist.  Hopefully my stress fracture has healed by now and I can start 
running again!

And it's getting cold here... which isn't helping the post-holiday blues.

Dave


Thanks Dave. I can appreciate that restless felling. I was laid up 
inside for two months last year and I didn't feel "healed" until that 
1st walk with a camera in my hand.




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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 00:12:15 -0500
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I like that shot a lot, Don.

Very nice light and shadows.

-- Walt


I was very pleased the way the K-5 handled the shadows. Thanks for noticing.


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If anything shown here lately deserves to be called painterly, this
does. It would look stupendous printed large and hanging above a
mantelpiece.

Great work, Don!

Your very kind, Bruce. My late sister-in-law was an accomplished oil 
painter who painted from photographs. I always said my photographs 
looked more like paintings than her paintings looked like photos.




Message: 7
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 06:30:22 -0700 (PDT)
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Don, I'm ambivalent about this one. ?I like very much the peaceful atmosphere, 
the lighting, and the colors and textures. ?My problem is the way the 
composition seems to tug my eyeballs this way and that: the path leads to the 
right and back across the bridge, and the grass and stream lead to the left and 
back, and then to the right, and then to the left again.

Rick


I can't argue about the lines. I will say that after sometime as my 
wallpaper I liked the complexity and the various angles in the photo and 
that's when I decided to post it. As always I value your opinion and I 
am happy with ambivalence over indifference.



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Don,
That's a very nice scene.  Excellent composition, good execution, fine photo.
Regards,  Bob S.


Bob, glad you liked it. I am glad I accomplished what I set out to do. I 
have shot many lousy pics in and around that bridge. It wasn't until 
last week it came to me to walk a different route and get this angle. 
Lesson learned.





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Photographing artwork for prints

2012-03-20 Thread Christine Nielsen
Hello all, and happy spring!

I come to you again, seeking wisdom...  I've had an inquiry from a
client about photographing artwork (painted canvases) for the purpose
of creating prints... for sale.  A couple of issues come to mind:

1) The actual photography... I'm assuming hi-resolution is the name of
the game here.  Not sure yet how big they want to go with prints... I
think some of the actual canvases are fairly large (30 x40?)
themselves.  From the research I've done, I'd think my K-5 is up to
the task... Should I consider renting a larger-format camera?
Alternatively,  at what point should I consider 'stitching" images
together for large pieces?

2) Rights.  So, this where I really have no idea...  my standard
agreement doesn't provide for the sale of my images by clients.  How
does that work?  I'm reading up -
http://asmp.org/tutorials/licensing-guide.html has been helpful, btw -
but has anyone out there ever taken on this kind of project or
provided that kind of license?

Any thoughts or experiences you have to share are very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

-c

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Re: Posterous acquired by Twitter

2012-03-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
One of my former law partners (now deceased) wrote to a judge "I
intended to write a much shorter brief, but I didn't have the time."

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> "I would have made the document shorter if only I had a bit more time
> to work on it."

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Re: PESO: Daffy Day

2012-03-20 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:
> On 3/20/2012 1:53 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
>>
>> If you're photos turn out looking like you want them to, you don't have to
>> apologize for the tools you used.
>>
> Thanks, John.
>
> Sometimes they do, and sometimes they don't. But, I'm at a loss to come up
> with a single instance where it's been the software's fault. ;-)
>
> -- Walt

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Re: PESO: Daffy Day

2012-03-20 Thread Walt Gilbert

On 3/20/2012 1:53 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Walt Gilbert


Thanks, Rick.

I do shoot RAW exclusively nowadays, but I don't have Lightroom. I do
all my editing with freeware applications and plugins -- pretty much
Picasa as an organizer and quick & dirty editor, IrfanView with a few
Photoshop plugins for noise reduction (which I almost NEVER use anymore,
but like to have) and some B/W conversions, and GIMP for saturation,
curves, contrast, etc. I haven't messed around with the luminance
channels, so that's something I need to dip my toe into, obviously.

I'm definitely not getting all that I can out of my photos that way, but
dollar-for-dollar, I'm getting reasonable bang for my buck on an
absurdly limited income.


If you're photos turn out looking like you want them to, you don't 
have to apologize for the tools you used.



Thanks, John.

Sometimes they do, and sometimes they don't. But, I'm at a loss to come 
up with a single instance where it's been the software's fault. ;-)


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Re: PESO: Daffy Day

2012-03-20 Thread John Sessoms

From: Walt Gilbert


Thanks, Rick.

I do shoot RAW exclusively nowadays, but I don't have Lightroom. I do
all my editing with freeware applications and plugins -- pretty much
Picasa as an organizer and quick & dirty editor, IrfanView with a few
Photoshop plugins for noise reduction (which I almost NEVER use anymore,
but like to have) and some B/W conversions, and GIMP for saturation,
curves, contrast, etc. I haven't messed around with the luminance
channels, so that's something I need to dip my toe into, obviously.

I'm definitely not getting all that I can out of my photos that way, but
dollar-for-dollar, I'm getting reasonable bang for my buck on an
absurdly limited income.


If you're photos turn out looking like you want them to, you don't have 
to apologize for the tools you used.


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Watching Sunset #3 [Was Re: ]

2012-03-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Godfrey and Walt.

This is the third in my "Watching Sunset"  series, and I have
corrected the subject line.

I thought this couple looked quite romantic, and that is what
attracted me.  There were lots of people on the beach to their right,
and lots of people on the grassy hill behind them, but they chose a
spot where they could be alone.  I tried to emphasize that my
including quite a bit of sand around them.  I also liked the colors in
his shirt, the beach towel around her shoulders, and the towel on
which they were sitting.  The temperature was in the low 70s, but
there was a breeze that might have chilled her a bit, especially if
they had been in the ocean.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> Very nicely done. The deep blue tones look great!
>
> G
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
>  wrote:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15380349
>>
>> Comments will be appreciated.
>>
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Re: PESO: Daffy Day

2012-03-20 Thread John Sessoms

From: David Mann


On Mar 20, 2012, at 2:07 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:


I just realized that Daffy is a black duck.

I've never seen a real black duck.

We have lots of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Scaup


Frank would be more likely to have seen these & not recognized them. 
They look like a really dark female mallard.


The key is noticing there's no racing stripe on the wings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Black_Duck

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Re: Posterous acquired by Twitter

2012-03-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 4:38 PM, P. J. Alling
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> I wonder how much time is considered ample, by a service that considers, 140
> characters a thesis.

"I would have made the document shorter if only I had a bit more time
to work on it."

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Re: Posterous acquired by Twitter

2012-03-20 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 1:48 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: Darren Addy
>
>> I know a lot of PDMLers use Posterous, so you probably got (or will
>> get) the same email that I just did informing you that Posterous has
>> been acquired by Twitter. Not sure what they have in mind, but the
>> "Acquisition FAQ" only says that "ample time" will be given of any
>> service or terms changes.
>
>
> Blog entries will now be *very* short.

Executives from both companies are glaring at each other across a
boardroom table.

"We thought you had a plan for making money!"

"No, we thought *you* had a plan!"


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Posterous acquired by Twitter

2012-03-20 Thread John Sessoms

From: Darren Addy


I know a lot of PDMLers use Posterous, so you probably got (or will
get) the same email that I just did informing you that Posterous has
been acquired by Twitter. Not sure what they have in mind, but the
"Acquisition FAQ" only says that "ample time" will be given of any
service or terms changes.


Blog entries will now be *very* short.

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Re:

2012-03-20 Thread Walt Gilbert

I like it a lot, Dan!

They certainly coordinated well before heading out for the day -- almost 
as though they expected to be photographed at some point.


-- Walt

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Re:

2012-03-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Very nicely done. The deep blue tones look great!

G

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2012-03-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15380349

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Re: PESO: Watching Sunset #2

2012-03-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Walt
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On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:
> I agree with those dudes. It's a great idea, loaded with potential.
>
> -- Walt
>
>
> On 3/20/2012 11:49 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Frank and David.
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:26 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
>>   wrote:
>>>
>>> With this and #1 you've got the beginnings of a fun and interesting
>>> series here!
>>>
>>> This one is very well done. The glow on their skin is most impressive!
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> frank
>>>
>>> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." --
>>> Christopher Hitchens
>>>
>>> --- Original Message ---
>>>
>>> From: "Daniel J. Matyola"
>>> Sent: March 19, 2012 3/19/12
>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
>>> Subject: PESO: Watching Sunset #2
>>>
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Re: PESO: Watching Sunset #2

2012-03-20 Thread Walt Gilbert

I agree with those dudes. It's a great idea, loaded with potential.

-- Walt

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Thanks, Frank and David.
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On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:26 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
  wrote:

With this and #1 you've got the beginnings of a fun and interesting series here!

This one is very well done. The glow on their skin is most impressive!

:-)

cheers,
frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: "Daniel J. Matyola"
Sent: March 19, 2012 3/19/12
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Subject: PESO: Watching Sunset #2

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Re: PESOs: Tractor and Sunset - 3/19/12

2012-03-20 Thread Walt Gilbert

On 3/20/2012 11:44 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Both are fine images.

Thank you, Dan!



The sunset image is lovely, and not at all cliche.  (After 5 weeks in
Maui, photographing sunsets virtually every night, I consider myself
an expert in cliche sunsets.)
You did manage to discover an interesting perspective in the process. 
Photographs of people sunset gazing is something I wouldn't have thought 
of -- unless I'd been on a nude beach during the week leading into the 
Ms. World pageant, that is.




The tractor image is even more interesting.  I like the contrast
between the regular patterns of the silo and the tractor grill and the
irregular ones created by the grass and the saplings.  I think it
works very well indeed.
Thanks again! I'll be revisiting that location in the future. It's a 
great-looking old tractor and I want to take a stab at some color shots 
when the light is better. I just picked a bad day and a bad time of day 
to take my stroll.


-- Walt



Dan


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On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:

Hi all,

Here's a shot I grabbed yesterday evening after distractedly looking toward
the horizon for a good 15 minutes as the sun went down. Yes, it's a sunset
photo -- so, I was reluctant to share it here after hammering the list with
flower after cliché flower photo. But, it got a pretty nice reception on my
Facebook page, so I figured, "What the hell?"

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6998558287/
K-x, Tokina 28-200 SZ-X 3.5-5.3, f/7.1, 1/125, ISO 500

And now for something only slightly less cliché: Here's a shot of a tractor
next to an old grain bin I shot on my photowalk yesterday -- which proved to
be less than productive as the sun was just too bright and the sky too
damned cloudless.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6852460184/
K100D, A-50/1.7, f/5.6, 1/200, ISO 200

Let the heaping of derision commence in earnest.

-- Walt

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Re: Photo Rumors: K-r successor

2012-03-20 Thread steve harley

on 2012-03-19 23:16 Brian Walters wrote

The problem for many people (me included) is that while you can use almost any
lens on other mirrorless systems, you lose autofocus. I still have and use the
odd manual focus lens but more and more I'm becoming dependent on autofocus.
Laziness is part of the issue, I'm suppose


i've had the opposite experience, though it depends on a good viewfinder and 
lenses with good focus rings — i stopped using AF much, mostly due to 
circumstances (non-AF lenses that i found enjoyable, taking lots of macro 
shots, AF becoming sketchy on my 16-45) and learned that in many cases manual 
focus simply works better and i enjoy it more; this despite presbyopia setting 
in hard over the last few years


that led to trying a Macro-Takumar 50mm onto a Panasonic GH1 (micro 4/3) and 
finding that the EVF (such as it is) makes it easier to work with the lens in a 
few ways: manual focus is aided by the center magnify feature, and working 
stopped down is aided by the EVF compensating for low light (thus avoiding 
two-step metering clumsiness); and now i'm eager for a better manual focus + 
EVF experience (NEX-7, OM-D, Pentax ...)


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Re: PESOs: Tractor and Sunset - 3/19/12

2012-03-20 Thread Walt Gilbert

On 3/20/2012 11:38 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Here's my steaming heap: I love that tractor! Good stuff!
Thanks, Bruce!  I really want to get back out there on a cloudier day. I 
thought it was a great subject that could really use better light than 
it was given yesterday.




Like the colour in the sunset, but it doesn't grab me, sorry.
That's entirely understandable. Non-photographers really seemed to dig 
it, so it made for good Facebook fodder at least.


-- Walt




On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:

Hi all,

Here's a shot I grabbed yesterday evening after distractedly looking
toward the horizon for a good 15 minutes as the sun went down. Yes, it's a
sunset photo -- so, I was reluctant to share it here after hammering the
list with flower after cliché flower photo. But, it got a pretty nice
reception on my Facebook page, so I figured, "What the hell?"

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6998558287/
K-x, Tokina 28-200 SZ-X 3.5-5.3, f/7.1, 1/125, ISO 500

And now for something only slightly less cliché: Here's a shot of a
tractor next to an old grain bin I shot on my photowalk yesterday -- which
proved to be less than productive as the sun was just too bright and the sky
too damned cloudless.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6852460184/
K100D, A-50/1.7, f/5.6, 1/200, ISO 200

Let the heaping of derision commence in earnest.

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Re: PESO: Watching Sunset #2

2012-03-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Frank and David.
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On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:26 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> With this and #1 you've got the beginnings of a fun and interesting series 
> here!
>
> This one is very well done. The glow on their skin is most impressive!
>
> :-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
> Christopher Hitchens
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
> Sent: March 19, 2012 3/19/12
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: PESO: Watching Sunset #2
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15386098
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Re: PESO 2012 - 042 - GDG

2012-03-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That sounds like a wonderful workshop!
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>> A new entry to the posterous blog last evening. Trying to keep it to one per 
>> week.
>>  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/jumble
>
> Thank you all for commenting, and taking the time to look!
>
> News of the moment:
> I've just been accepted into a juried workshop on photo book making
> for this Spring at Stanford U. Really looking forward to it. My
> project will be to produce a book from a selection of the photos in my
> "Communicating 2011" set. Woo Hoo! :-)
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Re: OT -- Help

2012-03-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Great sense of humor.  I think my camera would like very much to send
me that message!
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Re: PESOs: Tractor and Sunset - 3/19/12

2012-03-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Both are fine images.

The sunset image is lovely, and not at all cliche.  (After 5 weeks in
Maui, photographing sunsets virtually every night, I consider myself
an expert in cliche sunsets.  )

The tractor image is even more interesting.  I like the contrast
between the regular patterns of the silo and the tractor grill and the
irregular ones created by the grass and the saplings.  I think it
works very well indeed.

Dan


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On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Here's a shot I grabbed yesterday evening after distractedly looking toward
> the horizon for a good 15 minutes as the sun went down. Yes, it's a sunset
> photo -- so, I was reluctant to share it here after hammering the list with
> flower after cliché flower photo. But, it got a pretty nice reception on my
> Facebook page, so I figured, "What the hell?"
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6998558287/
> K-x, Tokina 28-200 SZ-X 3.5-5.3, f/7.1, 1/125, ISO 500
>
> And now for something only slightly less cliché: Here's a shot of a tractor
> next to an old grain bin I shot on my photowalk yesterday -- which proved to
> be less than productive as the sun was just too bright and the sky too
> damned cloudless.
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6852460184/
> K100D, A-50/1.7, f/5.6, 1/200, ISO 200
>
> Let the heaping of derision commence in earnest.
>
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Re: PESOs: Tractor and Sunset - 3/19/12

2012-03-20 Thread Bruce Walker
Here's my steaming heap: I love that tractor! Good stuff!

Like the colour in the sunset, but it doesn't grab me, sorry.


On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Here's a shot I grabbed yesterday evening after distractedly looking
> toward the horizon for a good 15 minutes as the sun went down. Yes, it's a
> sunset photo -- so, I was reluctant to share it here after hammering the
> list with flower after cliché flower photo. But, it got a pretty nice
> reception on my Facebook page, so I figured, "What the hell?"
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6998558287/
> K-x, Tokina 28-200 SZ-X 3.5-5.3, f/7.1, 1/125, ISO 500
>
> And now for something only slightly less cliché: Here's a shot of a
> tractor next to an old grain bin I shot on my photowalk yesterday -- which
> proved to be less than productive as the sun was just too bright and the sky
> too damned cloudless.
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6852460184/
> K100D, A-50/1.7, f/5.6, 1/200, ISO 200
>
> Let the heaping of derision commence in earnest.
>
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Re: PESO - Coot dive

2012-03-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Rehearsal or not, that is a stunning image!

I love the way we can see the head, including the beak and the eye,
under the water.  That makes it quite special, to me at least.  Also,
the patterns of the disturbed water around its feet is a fascinating
detail.

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On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 7:01 AM, AlunFoto  wrote:
> Another pic from this week.
> In context: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2012/03/coot-dive-rehearsal.html
> Image only: http://turl.no/jvf
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Re:

2012-03-20 Thread Walt Gilbert

On 3/19/2012 2:32 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Mar 19, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Theodore Beilby wrote:


Dave, I have always been accused of having too dark images, except when I was
taking photography at Bakersfield College back in the 70's. I had to be careful,
printing for school, prints were expected to have a full tonal range, while when
I was printing at the studio, I had to be sure to print lighter for reproduction
in the newspaper. I still like my images towards the darker side with a full
range of tones.  Are you comparing my rhino shot to Walt? At least Walt could
fit in my car when he visited.

He must have gained a few pounds between visiting you and me, I had to drive 
him around in my van.

--
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est
Well, you guys caught me in different seasons -- Ted in early fall, 
before I'd had a chance to put on that extra layer of fat to get me 
through the lean winter months, Larry in the early spring, before I'd 
had a chance to burn it off.


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Re: PESO: Daffy Day

2012-03-20 Thread Walt Gilbert

Thanks, Rick.

I do shoot RAW exclusively nowadays, but I don't have Lightroom. I do 
all my editing with freeware applications and plugins -- pretty much 
Picasa as an organizer and quick & dirty editor, IrfanView with a few 
Photoshop plugins for noise reduction (which I almost NEVER use anymore, 
but like to have) and some B/W conversions, and GIMP for saturation, 
curves, contrast, etc. I haven't messed around with the luminance 
channels, so that's something I need to dip my toe into, obviously.


I'm definitely not getting all that I can out of my photos that way, but 
dollar-for-dollar, I'm getting reasonable bang for my buck on an 
absurdly limited income. ;)


-- Walt

On 3/19/2012 10:24 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

Walt,

For yellow daffys (and red tulips), I shoot RAW, and pull down the luminance of 
the yellow (or red) channel in Lightroom.  It is remarkable how much detail is 
there when the channel appears to be blown out.

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Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: PESO: Daffy Day

On 3/18/2012 3:36 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

The first daffodil bloomed today. Earliest by at least ten days for my 20 years 
in Michigan, and within a day of the earliest I ever saw them in New Jersey. 
After hundreds of daffodil pics, tried for a bit of a different look here. Had 
the DA* 60-250 mounted, so I used it. f11, IS) 400, 1/250th, 250 mm.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15378457

Paul, I don't know how you do it.

I have the hardest time trying to get a decent exposure on yellow daffodils.

What's the big secret?

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Re: PESO: Daffy Day

2012-03-20 Thread Walt Gilbert

On 3/20/2012 9:03 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:

I went ahead and set up my K-x to display the histogram and light/dark
regions,

You'll be happy you did this. I live for histograms

Dave
I think I already am. One of the reasons I never used it before was 
because I didn't really have a strong sense for how they translate to 
the images displayed on-screen -- and also because I have an aesthetic 
preference for darker shadows, so I didn't want to start second guessing 
shots that seemed a little heavy in the darker regions.


I think I have a better grasp on the translation now than I did before, 
and I think actually using the histograms may get me further down the road.


-- Walt


-- Walt


On 3/19/2012 8:57 AM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

You should also be monitoring the in camera histogram if you can - making
sure you aren't blowing out that particular highlight color R, G or B ie the
specific curve is not cut off on the RH side.

If you can't monitor the histogram (I don't remember what camera body
you're shooting with) continue to go for slightly underexposed, cause once
the highlights are blown out you've lost any data in that area while you can
recover modestly under exposed features.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Walt Gilbert"
Subject: Re: PESO: Daffy Day



Hmm. I guess I'm using the wrong exposure mode, but I always seem to get
severely blown highlights when I try to shoot them. The last time I tried, I
set exposure compensation at -1 and /still/ managed to get some blown
highlights.

I may have had it set to spot metering.

-- Walt

On 3/18/2012 8:11 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

No secret here. I shoot RAW with the K-5 in multi-point exposure mode. I
think I had it set to +0.3 exposure comp, then some minor tweaking in
conversion.
Paul
On Mar 18, 2012, at 9:08 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:


On 3/18/2012 3:36 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

The first daffodil bloomed today. Earliest by at least ten days for my
20 years in Michigan, and within a day of the earliest I ever saw them in
New Jersey. After hundreds of daffodil pics, tried for a bit of a different
look here. Had the DA* 60-250 mounted, so I used it. f11, IS) 400, 1/250th,
250 mm.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15378457

Paul, I don't know how you do it.

I have the hardest time trying to get a decent exposure on yellow
daffodils.

What's the big secret?

-- Walt





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PESOs: Tractor and Sunset - 3/19/12

2012-03-20 Thread Walt Gilbert

Hi all,

Here's a shot I grabbed yesterday evening after distractedly looking 
toward the horizon for a good 15 minutes as the sun went down. Yes, it's 
a sunset photo -- so, I was reluctant to share it here after hammering 
the list with flower after cliché flower photo. But, it got a pretty 
nice reception on my Facebook page, so I figured, "What the hell?"


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6998558287/
K-x, Tokina 28-200 SZ-X 3.5-5.3, f/7.1, 1/125, ISO 500

And now for something only slightly less cliché: Here's a shot of a 
tractor next to an old grain bin I shot on my photowalk yesterday -- 
which proved to be less than productive as the sun was just too bright 
and the sky too damned cloudless.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6852460184/
K100D, A-50/1.7, f/5.6, 1/200, ISO 200

Let the heaping of derision commence in earnest.

-- Walt

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OT -- Help

2012-03-20 Thread P. J. Alling

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-y5gWye2vlvQ/TxmRghL2eGI/C60/0jkY-42zcog/s640/help2.jpg

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Re: GESO: St. Patrick's Day Photowalk

2012-03-20 Thread Walt Gilbert

Thank you, Bob!

Yeah, the flowers and blossoms are already fading. I'm going to head 
down this afternoon and take another few shots at the place with the 
tulips. They should be in full bloom in the next day, or so. I think the 
reason it gets better the further in is because, after a certain point, 
the road goes down a bit of a hill and into a tree-lined valley, where 
the light is more diffuse. It's a nice spot to shoot.


-- Walt

On 3/20/2012 10:23 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Walt,
That's a good gallery.
It gets better as you move into it.
Keep shooting as the flowers won't last at these temps.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 7:34 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
  wrote:

I thought for sure that I commented on this before, but this morning I can find 
no evidence that I did.

So I will now:  Wonderful gallery, especially (as others have said) the first 
one.

Fine work!

cheers,
frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Walt Gilbert
Sent: March 19, 2012 3/19/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Subject: Re: GESO: St. Patrick's Day Photowalk

Many thanks, David.

That is my favorite of the set, and as I mentioned in a previous reply,
it's the one that inspired my photowalk. You can't just go and put the
camera up when you think you might have a capture like that. :)

-- Walt

On 3/19/2012 6:56 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

Enjoyable set but the first one is great

Dave

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Walt Gilbertwrote:

Hi all,

Rather than hang out with friends and drink beer today, I decided to take
the K-x out for a stroll. I actually used something besides my A-50/1.7 or K
50/1.4, believe it or not. This time, I used my crusty old Tokina SZ-X
28-200 f/3.5-5.3. I really don't know why I don't use it more often. As far
as I'm concerned, it's one hell of a lens -- a much better performer than
any of my auto-focus zooms.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629242881952/

I even got a shot of some fungi for Larry.

As usual, comments, suggestions and critiques are heartily encouraged.

-- Walt

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Re: PUG - Restoring the Missing Galleries

2012-03-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
Yes Brian, thanks for restoring those pages.
The PUG was on hiatus for a while when I first started reading the pdml.
Some fellow in the Philippines or Indonesia proposed a gallery and
asked for submissions.
I sent him a picture of a squirrel on my bird feeder hunkered in
during a snowstorm.
He tarted it all up with a ragged mat to emphasize the snow and that
was the end for me.
However, the pugmeister at the time was humbled enough to suggest a restart, and
Bill Robb took over as pugmeister/promoter/ring master of the circus.
The rest is history.
Looking at the old stuff, I miss some of those guys!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Dario Bonazza
 wrote:
> Excellent! Thank-you so much for restoring those pages.
> Dario
>
> -Messaggio originale- From: Brian Walters
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 9:54 PM
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> Subject: PUG - Restoring the Missing Galleries
>
> G'day all
>
> A project I've had in mind since taking over as PUG-meister, was to
> try to find and restore the first few PUG galleries from 1997/98.
>
> As 2012 is the PUG's 15th anniversary, I decided that now would be a
> good time. In any case, it hasn't stopped raining here for weeks so
> I've spent a lot more time at the computer than is usual...
>
> In the 'Previous Galleries' page on Komkon, we already had all
> galleries back to March 1998. As it turned out, galleries from April
> 1997 (the very first PUG) to August 1997 were, in fact, already stored
> away on the Komkon server.  They were just hidden away in the archives
> folder and not readily accessible.  Restoring those was a fairy simple
> exercise.
>
> This left galleries from September 1997 to February 1998 still
> 'missing'.  These were galleries stored on the now departed GeoCities
> system.
>
> Enter - The Wayback Machine.
>
> Fortunately, I had a web address for one of the GeoCities galleries
> and, by fiddling with the URLs I was able to locate galleries for Dec
> 97, Jan 98 and Feb 98.
>
> All of these galleries have now been restored to the 'Previous
> Galleries' page. So, what about Sep/Oct/Nov 97?  I don't know, but as
> they aren't in the archives and don't seem to be on the Wayback
> Machine, I'm guessing that there weren't any PUGs for those months.
>
>
> If you want to take a look back at PDML history, check out these early
> PUGs at:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/pastgalleries.html
>
> Remember - these were dial-up days when bandwidth for posting images
> was limited, so the images are very small by the standards of today's
> PUG.  And, of course, all were taken on film cameras and had to be
> scanned.
>
> It's interesting to see who of today's regular PDMLers were active
> back then. Doug Brewer is the only name I recognise in the April 97
> gallery but JCO and Derby show up in May 97 with Luiz and Dario also
> appearing in '97.
>
>
>
>
> --
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>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
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> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
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Re: GESO: St. Patrick's Day Photowalk

2012-03-20 Thread Walt Gilbert

Many thanks, Frank!

I've meant to comment on your "Waiting" photo, but it would have been a 
repetition of all the accolades it's gotten from everyone else. It 
really is a fine image, and the composition is just perfect to my eye.


-- Walt

On 3/20/2012 7:34 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

I thought for sure that I commented on this before, but this morning I can find 
no evidence that I did.

So I will now:  Wonderful gallery, especially (as others have said) the first 
one.

Fine work!

cheers,
frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Walt Gilbert
Sent: March 19, 2012 3/19/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Subject: Re: GESO: St. Patrick's Day Photowalk

Many thanks, David.

That is my favorite of the set, and as I mentioned in a previous reply,
it's the one that inspired my photowalk. You can't just go and put the
camera up when you think you might have a capture like that. :)

-- Walt

On 3/19/2012 6:56 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

Enjoyable set but the first one is great

Dave

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Walt Gilbert   wrote:

Hi all,

Rather than hang out with friends and drink beer today, I decided to take
the K-x out for a stroll. I actually used something besides my A-50/1.7 or K
50/1.4, believe it or not. This time, I used my crusty old Tokina SZ-X
28-200 f/3.5-5.3. I really don't know why I don't use it more often. As far
as I'm concerned, it's one hell of a lens -- a much better performer than
any of my auto-focus zooms.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629242881952/

I even got a shot of some fungi for Larry.

As usual, comments, suggestions and critiques are heartily encouraged.

-- Walt

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Re: GESO "Call me a cab!"

2012-03-20 Thread Walt Gilbert

That LED array does sound like a tempting piece of equipment.

There've been several obstacles to my wanting to get too deeply into 
flash photography -- the biggest one being affordability. Another is 
that I'm just not crazy about carrying around anything more than I 
absolutely have to.


Still, at some point, I do need to step out of the little comfort zone 
I've built around natural and ambient light. When I do, I'll definitely 
look into an LED array.


Thanks for the info!

-- Walt

On 3/20/2012 6:51 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Temperament, schmemperament. :-)

Walt, learning how to light is all about two things for me: light
shaping, and personal growth. When I started 5 years ago I told
everyone I was a "natural light shooter". I eventually figured out
that this is really a code-phrase for "I'm afraid I'll suck at flash."

Everything you learn about photography has good effects on everything
else you do in photography, and possibly elsewhere besides.

If I was starting out with lighting experiments today I'd go straight
into LED lighting. I have a battery-powered 160-LED array and I can
tell you it's an awesome tool, and cheap; $50. Because it's continuous
you can see the effects immediately: the highlights and where the
shadows fall.

"Man's mind, once stretched by a new idea, never regains its original
dimensions."
 --Oliver Wendell Holmes


On "Cab": when I first saw that in Lightroom it immediately reminded
me of Botticelli's Venus, so I figured I had a keeper.

Thanks, Walt!


On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 1:37 AM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:

I actually love studio photography, but I love /other people/ doing it. I
just don't think I have the temperament for it. I also love Paul Stenquist's
car work, but I'll be damned if I'd want to try and make a living at it. I'm
pretty sure I'd be awful at it.

That said, I like all the shots, but I really love the "Call me a cab!"
shot -- particularly the pose. Classically feminine.

-- Walt


On 3/19/2012 3:25 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

For the studio fans (all four of you): two more finished images in my
Postmodern Pinups project:
http://goo.gl/udU3k

I had hoped to get to more of last week's Posing Workshop shoot, but
learning how to do decent background extraction using a copy of the
blue channel in Ps took up all my spare weekend time.

By the way, I had an unbelievable Duh! moment. With a flash of utter
brilliance, I rotated my second monitor, an older Dell LCD, to
portrait position and was able to edit these portrait orientation
images so as to completely cover the now vertical screen, increasing
their area roughly 400%! I have had this monitor now for about 6 years
and this is the very first fecking time I've thought to do that. Live
and -- eventually -- learn. It's like buying a brand new 30" monitor,
for portraits anyway.

Kit:
K20D, DA* 50-135/2.8, ISO 100.
4 Bowens 400WS strobes, 2 barn-doored on backdrop; 2 in 42" gridded
softboxes.
Lr, Ps.

Thanks to Bob W for the "Postmodern" moniker.

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Re: GESO: St. Patrick's Day Photowalk

2012-03-20 Thread Walt Gilbert

Thanks, Rick!

I added a touch of softening on that one and wondered whether that was a 
good idea or not. The fact that you picked it as a favorite leads me to 
believe I might have been onto something.


-- Walt

On 3/20/2012 8:39 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

That is a lovely gallery, Walt.  My favorite is #84--a lovely use of lighting, 
composition, color, and DOF.


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- Original Message -
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Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: GESO: St. Patrick's Day Photowalk

Many thanks, David.

That is my favorite of the set, and as I mentioned in a previous reply,
it's the one that inspired my photowalk. You can't just go and put the
camera up when you think you might have a capture like that. :)

-- Walt

On 3/19/2012 6:56 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

Enjoyable set but the first one is great

Dave

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Walt Gilbert   wrote:

Hi all,

Rather than hang out with friends and drink beer today, I decided to take
the K-x out for a stroll. I actually used something besides my A-50/1.7 or K
50/1.4, believe it or not. This time, I used my crusty old Tokina SZ-X
28-200 f/3.5-5.3. I really don't know why I don't use it more often. As far
as I'm concerned, it's one hell of a lens -- a much better performer than
any of my auto-focus zooms.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629242881952/

I even got a shot of some fungi for Larry.

As usual, comments, suggestions and critiques are heartily encouraged.

-- Walt

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Re: GESO: St. Patrick's Day Photowalk

2012-03-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
Walt,
That's a good gallery.
It gets better as you move into it.
Keep shooting as the flowers won't last at these temps.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 7:34 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> I thought for sure that I commented on this before, but this morning I can 
> find no evidence that I did.
>
> So I will now:  Wonderful gallery, especially (as others have said) the first 
> one.
>
> Fine work!
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
> Christopher Hitchens
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: Walt Gilbert 
> Sent: March 19, 2012 3/19/12
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: GESO: St. Patrick's Day Photowalk
>
> Many thanks, David.
>
> That is my favorite of the set, and as I mentioned in a previous reply,
> it's the one that inspired my photowalk. You can't just go and put the
> camera up when you think you might have a capture like that. :)
>
> -- Walt
>
> On 3/19/2012 6:56 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
>> Enjoyable set but the first one is great
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Rather than hang out with friends and drink beer today, I decided to take
>>> the K-x out for a stroll. I actually used something besides my A-50/1.7 or K
>>> 50/1.4, believe it or not. This time, I used my crusty old Tokina SZ-X
>>> 28-200 f/3.5-5.3. I really don't know why I don't use it more often. As far
>>> as I'm concerned, it's one hell of a lens -- a much better performer than
>>> any of my auto-focus zooms.
>>>
>>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629242881952/
>>>
>>> I even got a shot of some fungi for Larry.
>>>
>>> As usual, comments, suggestions and critiques are heartily encouraged.
>>>
>>> -- Walt
>>>
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Re: OT: any flash developers out there?

2012-03-20 Thread Darren Addy
I'm not much on hiring developers to reinvent the wheel.
My philosophy is that if I want to do it, then somebody has already
beaten me to it and has made it available - I just need to find it.

First off, any design or redesign of a web site today should be using
Responsive Web Design. It is a Design Once, and Look Good on Any Size
Screen approach (including tablet and smart phones). For a manual on
how to do that, I recommend the $9 ebook:
http://www.abookapart.com/products/responsive-web-design

You want an image carousel. Today, that is most likely going to be
accomplished with jQuery.  So if you are set on hiring a developer,
I'd say you want a jQuery or jQuery Mobile developer. However there is
a LOT of cool jQuery stuff already written that can be adopted into
your web site. Specifically to fit into a Responsive Web Design you
could look at something like Blueberry:
http://marktyrrell.com/labs/blueberry/

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Re: OT: any flash developers out there?

2012-03-20 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
I'm wanting to do some image carousel work.
I don't need Flash for Android for that.  Just for the PC.

Unless there are other recommendations ...

Sincerely, 

Collin Brendemuehl 
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Re: OT: any flash developers out there?

2012-03-20 Thread P. J. Alling

On 3/20/2012 10:14 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

I have an AF 360 and 2 SB800's if that helps.

Dave

I deserved that.
Adobe Flash.


Adobe pushed it long enough so that it's no longer a solution in search 
of a problem, but it's still the work of the devil but I repeat myself.



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Re: PUG - Restoring the Missing Galleries

2012-03-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thank you so much for doing this, Brian.  It is really wonderful being
able to look at the early galleries.  It was great seeing the work of
some of the PUGsters who are no longer participating on the list.
There are a lot of familiar names I haven't seen in years.

I was not a member of the group when the PUG started.  I lurked for a
year or so, and didn't have the nerve to submit an entry until Feb
2000.  I remember what a job it was getting a good scan back then.
Mostly I worked from prints rather than slides or negatives, and the
results weren't always great (but neither were my images).  I was
surprised to recall that one of my earliest entries was a black and
white image with the old 6X7.  What a camera that was .  .  .  .

Thanks again for all your efforts on behalf of the group.

Dan


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On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> Great job, Brian. I enjoyed the trip back in time. You are right that there
> were months with no galleries; I sometimes couldn't get images, sometimes
> didn't have time, and the attitude was very much in the "whenever" mode. It
> was a year or two before we decided to make it a regular thing.
>
> Like all that fancy code? I tell you, I was a whiz at HTML. =cough=
>
>
>
>
> On 3/19/12 4:54 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
>>
>> G'day all
>>
>> A project I've had in mind since taking over as PUG-meister, was to try
>> to find and restore the first few PUG galleries from 1997/98.
>>
>> As 2012 is the PUG's 15th anniversary, I decided that now would be a
>> good time. In any case, it hasn't stopped raining here for weeks so I've
>> spent a lot more time at the computer than is usual...
>>
>> In the 'Previous Galleries' page on Komkon, we already had all galleries
>> back to March 1998. As it turned out, galleries from April 1997 (the
>> very first PUG) to August 1997 were, in fact, already stored away on the
>> Komkon server. They were just hidden away in the archives folder and not
>> readily accessible. Restoring those was a fairy simple exercise.
>>
>> This left galleries from September 1997 to February 1998 still
>> 'missing'. These were galleries stored on the now departed GeoCities
>> system.
>>
>> Enter - The Wayback Machine.
>>
>> Fortunately, I had a web address for one of the GeoCities galleries and,
>> by fiddling with the URLs I was able to locate galleries for Dec 97, Jan
>> 98 and Feb 98.
>>
>> All of these galleries have now been restored to the 'Previous
>> Galleries' page. So, what about Sep/Oct/Nov 97? I don't know, but as
>> they aren't in the archives and don't seem to be on the Wayback Machine,
>> I'm guessing that there weren't any PUGs for those months.
>>
>> If you want to take a look back at PDML history, check out these early
>> PUGs at:
>>
>> http://pug.komkon.org/general/pastgalleries.html
>>
>> Remember - these were dial-up days when bandwidth for posting images was
>> limited, so the images are very small by the standards of today's PUG.
>> And, of course, all were taken on film cameras and had to be scanned.
>>
>> It's interesting to see who of today's regular PDMLers were active back
>> then. Doug Brewer is the only name I recognise in the April 97 gallery
>> but JCO and Derby show up in May 97 with Luiz and Dario also appearing
>> in '97.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Spring come slowly.

2012-03-20 Thread Bob Sullivan
Don,
That's a very nice scene.  Excellent composition, good execution, fine photo.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:12 AM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:
> I like that shot a lot, Don.
>
> Very nice light and shadows.
>
> -- Walt
>
> On 3/19/2012 4:09 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:
>>
>>
>> Spring Comes Slowly to the Lake Land the ice goes out, the grass begins to
>> green, the trees throw out hesitant buds and the hikers begin to hope.
>>
>> Just a prosaic landscape open to C&C
>>
>> http://donspix.posterous.com/spring-comes-slowly-to-the-lakeland-photo#!/
>>
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Re: OT: any flash developers out there?

2012-03-20 Thread Bruce Walker
Yes, I think the correct question is: are there any HTML5 developers
out there? :-)


On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> If you don't have your pick of Flash developers now, you soon will as
> most will have to be moving in other directions or be unemployed.
> You don't want to develop in Flash in 2012 (if you ever did).
> What is it you are trying to accomplish that you want a Flash developer for?
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Re: OT: any flash developers out there?

2012-03-20 Thread Darren Addy
If you don't have your pick of Flash developers now, you soon will as
most will have to be moving in other directions or be unemployed.
You don't want to develop in Flash in 2012 (if you ever did).
What is it you are trying to accomplish that you want a Flash developer for?

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Re: Anybody still shooting wet plates?

2012-03-20 Thread Darren Addy
On this subject, I have a book to recommend, if the historical
processes [and how they work(ed)] interest you:
"The Keepers of Light" (subtitle: A History & Working Guide to Early
Photographic Processes) copyright 1979.

Wow, WHAT a book. It provides an interesting historical account, but
beyond that it is also a completely practical "how-to" for those who
want to try their hand at:
• Salted Paper
• Ambrotype
• Platinum
• Palladium
• Kallitype
• Carbon
• Carbro
• Three-Color Carbo
• Gum Dichromate
• Oil
• Bromoil
• Photogravure

I was fortunate enough to snag a hardcover copy of this "out of print"
book for 1/3 of the going price, but after seeing it I can say that it
is definitely worth having if you are interested in learning about (or
pursuing) any of these processes. 301 pages of content (before pages
of footnotes).

Paperback on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Keepers-Light-Photographic-Processes/dp/0871001586/
Hardcover on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Keepers-Light-Photographic-Processes/dp/0871001683/

Reader reviews of the book on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Keepers-Light-History-Photographic-Processes/product-reviews/0871001586/

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Re: PUG - Restoring the Missing Galleries

2012-03-20 Thread Doug Brewer
Great job, Brian. I enjoyed the trip back in time. You are right that 
there were months with no galleries; I sometimes couldn't get images, 
sometimes didn't have time, and the attitude was very much in the 
"whenever" mode. It was a year or two before we decided to make it a 
regular thing.


Like all that fancy code? I tell you, I was a whiz at HTML. =cough=



On 3/19/12 4:54 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

A project I've had in mind since taking over as PUG-meister, was to try
to find and restore the first few PUG galleries from 1997/98.

As 2012 is the PUG's 15th anniversary, I decided that now would be a
good time. In any case, it hasn't stopped raining here for weeks so I've
spent a lot more time at the computer than is usual...

In the 'Previous Galleries' page on Komkon, we already had all galleries
back to March 1998. As it turned out, galleries from April 1997 (the
very first PUG) to August 1997 were, in fact, already stored away on the
Komkon server. They were just hidden away in the archives folder and not
readily accessible. Restoring those was a fairy simple exercise.

This left galleries from September 1997 to February 1998 still
'missing'. These were galleries stored on the now departed GeoCities
system.

Enter - The Wayback Machine.

Fortunately, I had a web address for one of the GeoCities galleries and,
by fiddling with the URLs I was able to locate galleries for Dec 97, Jan
98 and Feb 98.

All of these galleries have now been restored to the 'Previous
Galleries' page. So, what about Sep/Oct/Nov 97? I don't know, but as
they aren't in the archives and don't seem to be on the Wayback Machine,
I'm guessing that there weren't any PUGs for those months.

If you want to take a look back at PDML history, check out these early
PUGs at:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/pastgalleries.html

Remember - these were dial-up days when bandwidth for posting images was
limited, so the images are very small by the standards of today's PUG.
And, of course, all were taken on film cameras and had to be scanned.

It's interesting to see who of today's regular PDMLers were active back
then. Doug Brewer is the only name I recognise in the April 97 gallery
but JCO and Derby show up in May 97 with Luiz and Dario also appearing
in '97.







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Re: OT: any flash developers out there?

2012-03-20 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
>I have an AF 360 and 2 SB800's if that helps.
>
>Dave

I deserved that.
Adobe Flash.

Sincerely, 

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Re: PESO: Watching Sunset #2

2012-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:26 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> With this and #1 you've got the beginnings of a fun and interesting series 
> here!
>
> This one is very well done. The glow on their skin is most impressive!

Agreed

Dave
>
> :-)
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
> Christopher Hitchens
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
> Sent: March 19, 2012 3/19/12
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: PESO: Watching Sunset #2
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15386098
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Re: PESO: Daffy Day

2012-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
Great shot

Dave

On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> The first daffodil bloomed today. Earliest by at least ten days for my 20 
> years in Michigan, and within a day of the earliest I ever saw them in New 
> Jersey. After hundreds of daffodil pics, tried for a bit of a different look 
> here. Had the DA* 60-250 mounted, so I used it. f11, IS) 400, 1/250th, 250 mm.
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Re: PESO: Daffy Day

2012-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:
> I went ahead and set up my K-x to display the histogram and light/dark
> regions,

You'll be happy you did this. I live for histograms

Dave
>
> -- Walt
>
>
> On 3/19/2012 8:57 AM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
>>
>> You should also be monitoring the in camera histogram if you can - making
>> sure you aren't blowing out that particular highlight color R, G or B ie the
>> specific curve is not cut off on the RH side.
>>
>> If you can't monitor the histogram (I don't remember what camera body
>> you're shooting with) continue to go for slightly underexposed, cause once
>> the highlights are blown out you've lost any data in that area while you can
>> recover modestly under exposed features.
>>
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Walt Gilbert" 
>> Subject: Re: PESO: Daffy Day
>>
>>
>>> Hmm. I guess I'm using the wrong exposure mode, but I always seem to get
>>> severely blown highlights when I try to shoot them. The last time I tried, I
>>> set exposure compensation at -1 and /still/ managed to get some blown
>>> highlights.
>>>
>>> I may have had it set to spot metering.
>>>
>>> -- Walt
>>>
>>> On 3/18/2012 8:11 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 No secret here. I shoot RAW with the K-5 in multi-point exposure mode. I
 think I had it set to +0.3 exposure comp, then some minor tweaking in
 conversion.
 Paul
 On Mar 18, 2012, at 9:08 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

> On 3/18/2012 3:36 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>
>> The first daffodil bloomed today. Earliest by at least ten days for my
>> 20 years in Michigan, and within a day of the earliest I ever saw them in
>> New Jersey. After hundreds of daffodil pics, tried for a bit of a 
>> different
>> look here. Had the DA* 60-250 mounted, so I used it. f11, IS) 400, 
>> 1/250th,
>> 250 mm.
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15378457
>
> Paul, I don't know how you do it.
>
> I have the hardest time trying to get a decent exposure on yellow
> daffodils.
>
> What's the big secret?
>
> -- Walt
>>
>>
>>
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Re: OT: any flash developers out there?

2012-03-20 Thread David J Brooks
I have an AF 360 and 2 SB800's if that helps.

Dave

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Collin Brendemuehl
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>
> Sincerely,
>
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OT: any flash developers out there?

2012-03-20 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

Sincerely, 

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Re: PESO 2012 - 042 - GDG

2012-03-20 Thread Bruce Walker
Congrats re workshop. Looking forward to hearing of your adventures /
cadging free advice. :-)


On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>
> > A new entry to the posterous blog last evening. Trying to keep it to one
> > per week.
> >  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/jumble
>
> Thank you all for commenting, and taking the time to look!
>
> News of the moment:
> I've just been accepted into a juried workshop on photo book making
> for this Spring at Stanford U. Really looking forward to it. My
> project will be to produce a book from a selection of the photos in my
> "Communicating 2011" set. Woo Hoo! :-)
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Re: GESO: St. Patrick's Day Photowalk

2012-03-20 Thread Rick Womer
That is a lovely gallery, Walt.  My favorite is #84--a lovely use of lighting, 
composition, color, and DOF.


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Subject: Re: GESO: St. Patrick's Day Photowalk

Many thanks, David.

That is my favorite of the set, and as I mentioned in a previous reply, 
it's the one that inspired my photowalk. You can't just go and put the 
camera up when you think you might have a capture like that. :)

-- Walt

On 3/19/2012 6:56 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
> Enjoyable set but the first one is great
>
> Dave
>
> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Rather than hang out with friends and drink beer today, I decided to take
>> the K-x out for a stroll. I actually used something besides my A-50/1.7 or K
>> 50/1.4, believe it or not. This time, I used my crusty old Tokina SZ-X
>> 28-200 f/3.5-5.3. I really don't know why I don't use it more often. As far
>> as I'm concerned, it's one hell of a lens -- a much better performer than
>> any of my auto-focus zooms.
>>
>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629242881952/
>>
>> I even got a shot of some fungi for Larry.
>>
>> As usual, comments, suggestions and critiques are heartily encouraged.
>>
>> -- Walt
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