Re: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

[Larry Colen]

On Apr 25, 2012, at 11:24 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

> On 4/25/2012 11:17 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> On Apr 25, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:
>> 
>>> I may be asked never to bring a camera to another wedding. The only one 
>>> I've ever photographed (a couple of months ago as a favor to the bride and 
>>> groom, both longtime friends of mine) didn't even survive the honeymoon and 
>>> was annulled within a week.
>> Damn!  I should have had you photography my wedding. It would have saved me 
>> nearly a year of grief.
>> 
>> 
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> I wish there were some way I could guarantee that success rate.

There is,  take photos at your own wedding(s).

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Re: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

[Walt Gilbert]

On 4/25/2012 11:17 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Apr 25, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:


I may be asked never to bring a camera to another wedding. The only one I've 
ever photographed (a couple of months ago as a favor to the bride and groom, 
both longtime friends of mine) didn't even survive the honeymoon and was 
annulled within a week.

Damn!  I should have had you photography my wedding. It would have saved me 
nearly a year of grief.


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I wish there were some way I could guarantee that success rate.

-- Walt

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Re: Vet ER

[Bulent Celasun]

Strong set.
I should not have looked at them (esp. the last ones) just before a
visit to our vet :(

Bulent
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http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun


2012/4/26 jn289 :
> Don't know if I showed this before, but the photos went with a newspaper
> story. Two photos at the end was when the little brown and white dog left
> this world. The story was about life and death in an vet hospital..Joe
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=857764
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Re: Vet ER

[David Mann]

On Apr 26, 2012, at 2:34 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

> Everything on the screen, except for your pictures, looks like dogshit.

Mark!

Dave


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Re: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

[David Mann]

On Apr 26, 2012, at 7:48 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

> Here's a survey question... as an invited guest at a wedding, do you
> bring your dslr?

I read our wedding photographer's contract the other day and she asks that any 
guest with a DSLR must shoot at a different angle from her own shots.  I don't 
know how strict she'd be about enforcing it.  She was happy with being 
surrounded by relatives with P&S cameras and those are becoming pretty good 
these days.

I would guess that the contract is fairly generic so it's likely to be a common 
clause around here.

The reason I read the contract was to clarify copyright before thinking about 
putting an album online.  We're planning to talk to her at some stage because 
it's hard for us to take print orders when we show relatives using the iPad.  I 
figure a pile of 6x4 prints where we can write on the back would be easier as 
there's no other way we can uniquely identify each pic (there are a few groups 
of similar photos).

Dave


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Re: The Text Man

[David Mann]

On Apr 26, 2012, at 1:32 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

> It's illegal to use any handheld PED while operating any vehicle (including 
> bikes) here in Ontario. This guy is a perfect example of why.

We have a similar rule but I don't know if it extends to bikes.

It led to a new problem.  People who decide their ringing / beeping phone is so 
important that they'll pull over on yellow lines to attend to it, usually 
blocking a cycle lane or footpath in the process as well.

Further ranting abridged :)

Dave


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Re: Tiny-GESO: Rainy Day Rose (comparison shots)

[Walt Gilbert]

I did a little tweak to the K20D shot, thinking it would make a pretty 
nice greeting card image:


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7114814549/

-- Walt

On 4/25/2012 9:18 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Hi all,

Cilche as hell, I know, but I just wanted to post these two shots for 
comparison purposes.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7114470527/
K100D, F 35-135/3.5-5.3, ISO 200, 1/250, f/6.3

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6968391742/
K20D, A 50/1.7, ISO 160, 1/800, f/2.8

I'd say the the K100D w/ F 35-135 combo holds its own, considering it 
was zoomed all the way out to its extreme end.


-- Walt



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Re: Tiny-GESO: Rainy Day Rose (comparison shots)

[Walt Gilbert]

On 4/25/2012 11:25 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Comparing that K100D versus a K20D by taking photos of flowers.  Who'd do such 
a thing?

That's a question I dare not ask myself.



http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157616985839165
That's some pretty impressive stuff from both bodies. I've always been 
really impressed with the K100D's IQ, and there's just something 
intangible about the images it produces -- a certain subtle quality that 
I always felt was absent from my K-x's images. I still haven't been able 
to quantify it.


(imgp = k100  lrc in the file name = k20)

On Apr 25, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:


Thanks for the reminder, Frank! ;)

I think the second one was a little more color-faithful to the outer petals. 
The first shot probably would have been closer, but I have the saturation 
cranked down a bit on the K100D to help preserve detail. I may have gone just a 
little too far.

Exposure looks a bit different between the two.You can't do a fair 
comparison between the two without using the same lens.
That's very true. I guess I wasn't really going for a head-to-head test 
at the time, but when I pulled the images off the cards, I was really 
pleased with the K100D's images compared to the K20D's, especially given 
the disparities between them, both in the glass (zoom at full reach vs. 
50mm prime) and the resolution (6Mp vs. 14Mp). So, I couldn't help 
making the comparison.


I just really enjoy shooting with both of them.

-- Walt




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Re: Tiny-GESO: Rainy Day Rose (comparison shots)

[Larry Colen]

Comparing that K100D versus a K20D by taking photos of flowers.  Who'd do such 
a thing?

http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157616985839165/

(imgp = k100  lrc in the file name = k20)

On Apr 25, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

> Thanks for the reminder, Frank! ;)
> 
> I think the second one was a little more color-faithful to the outer petals. 
> The first shot probably would have been closer, but I have the saturation 
> cranked down a bit on the K100D to help preserve detail. I may have gone just 
> a little too far.

Exposure looks a bit different between the two.You can't do a fair 
comparison between the two without using the same lens.


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Re: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

[Larry Colen]

On Apr 25, 2012, at 4:29 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

> I may be asked never to bring a camera to another wedding. The only one I've 
> ever photographed (a couple of months ago as a favor to the bride and groom, 
> both longtime friends of mine) didn't even survive the honeymoon and was 
> annulled within a week.

Damn!  I should have had you photography my wedding. It would have saved me 
nearly a year of grief.


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Re: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

[Larry Colen]

On Apr 25, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

> Here's a survey question... as an invited guest at a wedding, do you
> bring your dslr?

I've only been to one wedding since I got my DSLR, and I brought my gear.  The 
first thing I did when I got to the wedding was look for the pro to tell him to 
let me know if I was ever in his way.  In one of those small world moments, he 
was someone I took photography with in Jr. High school.

I sat someplace where I'd have clear line of sight to the ceremony, but 
wouldn't be in Mark's way.  I managed to get some decent shots over the course 
of the day. And since they weren't depending on me, I actually had fun.  I 
could go for the higher risk, but cool if they turn out, shots.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622260949366/


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Re: Tripod

[Larry Colen]

On Apr 25, 2012, at 6:47 PM, jn289 wrote:

> Looking for some thoughts on a good pod to hold Pentax 300 F2.8, 500 F.4 
> Sigma Mirror, and the 500 F4.5 Pentax..What was I using last night was just 
> shaking a little on moon photos..Thanks Joe

I hate to tell you this, but there isn't any tripod that'll do what you need.  
You should just mail the lenses to me so you won't have to deal with continual 
disappointment.


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RE: PESOs - I can just hear Bill Cosby

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

I must be getting old (okay, I can drop the "getting" part) but I gotta agree 
with Bill on this one.

:-)

Btw (and I think you already saw this one) you can ride a bike that way:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/04/its-all-about-style.html?m=1

But it's got to be the right type of bike.

Cheers,
frank 

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
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From: jn289 
Sent: April 25, 2012 4/25/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESOs - I can just hear Bill Cosby

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15604774

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15604772

Just a point and shoot camera.
This is what Bill Cosby always talks about...Joe

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Re: PESO- Baby gets food

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

That's one determined baby!

;-)

Terrific grab, Joe.

Cheers,
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Sent: April 25, 2012 4/25/12
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Subject: Re: PESO- Baby gets food

Thanks to all that looked, Joe


>Baby gets food, in a park on  up on a hill, LX Camera, 300mm  F4.0 Pentax lens
>
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Re: GESO: tumblr update

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Yeah, brilliant stuff...

Cheers,
frank

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From: Mark C 
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Subject: Re: GESO: tumblr update

On 4/24/2012 6:31 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote:
> An imaginary field-trip to belgrade and more at:
> http://tamoneki.tumblr.com
>
Excellent collection! I feel like I've been to a huge banquet (for the 
eyes)...

MCC

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LR4 question, pick and reject

[Larry Colen]

In Lightroom 3,  When you copied files into a collection, or a set to be 
exported to flickr, facebook etc.  All of the pick & reject flags would 
disappear, so that a photo that was "picked" in the folder view wouldn't 
necessarily be picked in the collection view.

It seems that in LR4 the pick and reject flags are following the photo from 
folder, to collection and so forth.  Is there anyway to turn this off?

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Re: Tiny-GESO: Rainy Day Rose (comparison shots)

[Walt Gilbert]

Thanks for the reminder, Frank! ;)

I think the second one was a little more color-faithful to the outer 
petals. The first shot probably would have been closer, but I have the 
saturation cranked down a bit on the K100D to help preserve detail. I 
may have gone just a little too far.


-- Walt

On 4/25/2012 10:21 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

There's something about the second one, it's just more "real" to my eyes.

Btw, I've said it before and I'll say it now: If you don't like it, it's 
"cliche", if you do like it, it's ~genre~.

;-)

Both very good shots.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Walt Gilbert
Sent: April 25, 2012 4/25/12
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Subject: Tiny-GESO: Rainy Day Rose (comparison shots)

Hi all,

Cilche as hell, I know, but I just wanted to post these two shots for
comparison purposes.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7114470527/
K100D, F 35-135/3.5-5.3, ISO 200, 1/250, f/6.3

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6968391742/
K20D, A 50/1.7, ISO 160, 1/800, f/2.8

I'd say the the K100D w/ F 35-135 combo holds its own, considering it
was zoomed all the way out to its extreme end.

-- Walt




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Re: Tiny-GESO: Rainy Day Rose (comparison shots)

[Walt Gilbert]

Thanks, Tim!

That's what I was angling for with both shots, oddly enough!

-- Walt

On 4/25/2012 10:04 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

A, so pretty. -T

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:

Hi all,

Cilche as hell, I know, but I just wanted to post these two shots for
comparison purposes.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7114470527/
K100D, F 35-135/3.5-5.3, ISO 200, 1/250, f/6.3

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6968391742/
K20D, A 50/1.7, ISO 160, 1/800, f/2.8

I'd say the the K100D w/ F 35-135 combo holds its own, considering it was
zoomed all the way out to its extreme end.

-- Walt

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Re: PESO - Auto Service

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Love it!

"Hey, dad, hurry up. I'm boored!"

cheers,
frank

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From: jn289 
Sent: April 25, 2012 4/25/12
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Subject: Re: PESO - Auto Service

Thanks, Charles. Shot this from car window stopped at traffic light, Joe


>On Apr 23, 2012, at 21:29, jn289 wrote:
>
>>  Auto Service,  LX Camera, Joe
>>
>>  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15593713
>>
>
>Cute!
>
>  -Charles
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RE: Tiny-GESO: Rainy Day Rose (comparison shots)

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

There's something about the second one, it's just more "real" to my eyes. 

Btw, I've said it before and I'll say it now: If you don't like it, it's 
"cliche", if you do like it, it's ~genre~.

;-)

Both very good shots.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Walt Gilbert 
Sent: April 25, 2012 4/25/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Tiny-GESO: Rainy Day Rose (comparison shots)

Hi all,

Cilche as hell, I know, but I just wanted to post these two shots for 
comparison purposes.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7114470527/
K100D, F 35-135/3.5-5.3, ISO 200, 1/250, f/6.3

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6968391742/
K20D, A 50/1.7, ISO 160, 1/800, f/2.8

I'd say the the K100D w/ F 35-135 combo holds its own, considering it 
was zoomed all the way out to its extreme end.

-- Walt

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RE: PESO Vet ER

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

That's a very poignant and moving set, Joe.

Cheers,
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From: jn289 
Sent: April 25, 2012 4/25/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO  Vet ER

Ok Ann, yell at me again as I forgot the PESO Word.Joe

Don't know if I showed this before, but the photos went with a 
newspaper story. Two photos at the end was when the little brown and 
white dog left this world. The story was about life and death in an 
vet hospital..Joe

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=857764

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Re: Tiny-GESO: Rainy Day Rose (comparison shots)

[Tim Bray]

A, so pretty. -T

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Cilche as hell, I know, but I just wanted to post these two shots for
> comparison purposes.
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7114470527/
> K100D, F 35-135/3.5-5.3, ISO 200, 1/250, f/6.3
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6968391742/
> K20D, A 50/1.7, ISO 160, 1/800, f/2.8
>
> I'd say the the K100D w/ F 35-135 combo holds its own, considering it was
> zoomed all the way out to its extreme end.
>
> -- Walt
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Re: Tiny-GESO: Rainy Day Rose (comparison shots)

[Walt Gilbert]

Thanks, Joe.

I mostly just neededa little reassurance that the K100D was as good a 
camera as I remembered it being, since the K-x will be out of commission 
for a while.


I can't complain.

-- Walt

On 4/25/2012 9:33 PM, jn289 wrote:

Walt, they are both very nice..Joe



Hi all,

Cilche as hell, I know, but I just wanted to post these two shots for 
comparison purposes.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7114470527/
K100D, F 35-135/3.5-5.3, ISO 200, 1/250, f/6.3

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6968391742/
K20D, A 50/1.7, ISO 160, 1/800, f/2.8

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Re: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

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I got married once. It was about (OMG!) 33 years ago. My fiancee 
(soon-to-be-wife and now ex-wife) and I  both agreed "no photos in the church". 
Hey, I may be an atheist (okay, for those hair-splitters among you I'm an 
atheistic agnostic) but I ~do~ have a sense of sacred and I just don't think 
it's appropriate or respectful to be snapping away in a church during what is 
supposed to be, after all, a pious ceremony.

We had a Real Wedding Photographer (who did a great job, btw) who was a bit 
miffed, and after some discussion we decided to allow photos (by everyone) in 
the church during the signing of the register only. 

Hey, we got photos taken before the ceremony, immediately after, at a park 
setting during the time between church and reception, then finally at the 
reception. 

We figured that was enough. 

Happily everyone respected our "no photos in the church" request. And we still 
got a lovely bunch of wedding photos, which have long outlived the marriage.

;-)

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Bob Sullivan 
Sent: April 25, 2012 4/25/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

Christine,
I don't think it was the bride's idea for no pictures...all from the preacher.
I've seen few who were so rigid.  Only Rabbi's in the sanctuary.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>> Jack,
>> Last wedding I was at, the preacher told her congregation to not take photos.
>> 'They have a professional photographer here and you should please not
>> take photos during the ceremony.'
>> I watched the 'Pro' for a little while and thought she was a 'Guy with
>> a Rebel', so just ignored the Preacher.
>> (I'm a heathen anyway...)
>
> Yikes.  I wonder if that was her standard warning at weddings, or a
> request of the bride & groom..? Or of the photographer?
>
> I can see how "everyone's a photographer" might inspire a bride to
> want to rein it in a little bit.  As she walks down the aisle, instead
> of seeing the loving gazes of all her friends & family, she sees a
> phalanx of iPhones held up to their faces, as they snap & flash
> away... And of course, before the ceremony is over, the images have
> been uploaded to facebook & tagged.  lol.
>
> But, if the pro is a "Guy With a Rebel", well... then you do what you gotta 
> do.
>
> :)
> -c
>
>
>
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>>> In answer to your "survey" question; ..no.
>>> In the case of a good friend, I'd subtly reaffirm that you're still "into" 
>>> it, but are hesitant to bring along your SLR so as not to appear to be 
>>> competing with the pro. The next comment must then come from the friend. If 
>>> you hear only crickets, leave it home..
>>>
>>> From: Christine Nielsen 
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 12:48 PM
>>> Subject: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...
>>>
>>> Here's a survey question... as an invited guest at a wedding, do you
>>> bring your dslr?
>>>
>>> A good friend of mine got married this weekend... I almost didn't
>>> bring it, but in the end, I threw the k-5 & FA 50 in my purse "just in
>>> case" I wanted it later
>>>
>>> It's funny territory, I think.  There's a pro on hand to capture the
>>> day.  Yet, the number of cell phone and p&s cams being held aloft in
>>> the pews is almost comical... On the other hand, maybe the dslr seems
>>> a bit much? I mean, you don't want to be Uncle Harry, elbowing the pro
>>> out of the way to get your shot of the happy couple...
>>>
>>> Hmm.  Maybe the K-01 (in white, of course) for this type of occasion
>>> would be appropriate.  I'll have to see if it fits in an evening
>>> bag...
>>>
>>> :)
>>> -c
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Re: Vet ER

[Tim Bray]

That’s a powerful, beautifully-captured set.  But you’d be doing
yourself a huge favor if you got off photo.net.  Everything on the
screen, except for your pictures, looks like dogshit. And there are
many excellent free alternatives.

 Pardon my bluntness. -Tim

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 7:06 PM, jn289  wrote:
> Don't know if I showed this before, but the photos went with a newspaper
> story. Two photos at the end was when the little brown and white dog left
> this world. The story was about life and death in an vet hospital..Joe
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Re: Tiny-GESO: Rainy Day Rose (comparison shots)

[jn289]

Walt, they are both very nice..Joe



Hi all,

Cilche as hell, I know, but I just wanted to post these two shots 
for comparison purposes.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7114470527/
K100D, F 35-135/3.5-5.3, ISO 200, 1/250, f/6.3

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6968391742/
K20D, A 50/1.7, ISO 160, 1/800, f/2.8

I'd say the the K100D w/ F 35-135 combo holds its own, considering 
it was zoomed all the way out to its extreme end.


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Re: Vet ER

[Walt Gilbert]

Wow, Joe -- that's pretty powerful, and those last two photos are just 
heartrending. I've witnessed that firsthand but it was before I started 
pursuing photography. It sure brings back poignant memories, though.


Thanks for sharing.

-- Walt

On 4/25/2012 9:06 PM, jn289 wrote:
Don't know if I showed this before, but the photos went with a 
newspaper story. Two photos at the end was when the little brown and 
white dog left this world. The story was about life and death in an 
vet hospital..Joe


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Re: Tripod

[jn289]

Thanks Jeff, I do have two like this and are not sturdy enough..Joe


Manfrotto is pricing itself steeply these days. This Slik looks good 
for the price.


http://www.amazon.com/Slik-Heavy-Duty-Tripod-Fluid-Effect-Built-In/dp/B6HOKW/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1335406182&sr=1-2

Hard to tell how solid it is. This is one thing that is best bought 
in a camera store. I have two light, flimsy tripods that seem to 
have been designed for point-and-shoots.


Jeffery

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 Looking for some thoughts on a good pod to hold Pentax 300 F2.8, 
500 F.4 Sigma Mirror, and the 500 F4.5 Pentax..What was I using 
last night was just shaking a little on moon photos..Thanks Joe


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PESO Vet ER

[jn289]

Ok Ann, yell at me again as I forgot the PESO Word.Joe

Don't know if I showed this before, but the photos went with a 
newspaper story. Two photos at the end was when the little brown and 
white dog left this world. The story was about life and death in an 
vet hospital..Joe


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Re: PESO: Killdeer in Flight

[Walt Gilbert]

On 4/25/2012 9:09 PM, steve harley wrote:

on 2012-04-24 19:43 Walt Gilbert wrote
Caught this one through the passenger-side window of my sister's car 
with the M
50/2 on the K20D. Didn't have a zoom on hand, unfortunately. Still, I 
was
pretty happy with the results, all things considered. It's a fairly 
tight crop,

but I'm happy with the overall resolution, too.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7111327281/
ISO 320, 1/1000 sec, f/2.8


i'd be happy with that shot too; good job focusing at f/2.8; the 
background makes it a very realistic environmental portrait



Thanks, Steve!

The walkway in the background is actually a disabled-accessible 
wheelchair ramp/fishing pier, which is a nice touch for the place. I 
know a lot of older folks who grew up fishing the local ponds, but just 
aren't able to do it anymore. It's a really great thing for those folks 
to have at their disposal.


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Tiny-GESO: Rainy Day Rose (comparison shots)

[Walt Gilbert]

Hi all,

Cilche as hell, I know, but I just wanted to post these two shots for 
comparison purposes.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7114470527/
K100D, F 35-135/3.5-5.3, ISO 200, 1/250, f/6.3

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6968391742/
K20D, A 50/1.7, ISO 160, 1/800, f/2.8

I'd say the the K100D w/ F 35-135 combo holds its own, considering it 
was zoomed all the way out to its extreme end.


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Re: Tripod

[Jeffery Smith]

Manfrotto is pricing itself steeply these days. This Slik looks good for the 
price.

http://www.amazon.com/Slik-Heavy-Duty-Tripod-Fluid-Effect-Built-In/dp/B6HOKW/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1335406182&sr=1-2

Hard to tell how solid it is. This is one thing that is best bought in a camera 
store. I have two light, flimsy tripods that seem to have been designed for 
point-and-shoots.

Jeffery

Sent from my iPad

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> Sigma Mirror, and the 500 F4.5 Pentax..What was I using last night was just 
> shaking a little on moon photos..Thanks Joe
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RE: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Btw, nice shot!

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Christine Nielsen 
Sent: April 25, 2012 4/25/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

Here's a survey question... as an invited guest at a wedding, do you
bring your dslr?

A good friend of mine got married this weekend... I almost didn't
bring it, but in the end, I threw the k-5 & FA 50 in my purse "just in
case" I wanted it later

It's funny territory, I think.  There's a pro on hand to capture the
day.  Yet, the number of cell phone and p&s cams being held aloft in
the pews is almost comical... On the other hand, maybe the dslr seems
a bit much? I mean, you don't want to be Uncle Harry, elbowing the pro
out of the way to get your shot of the happy couple...

Hmm.  Maybe the K-01 (in white, of course) for this type of occasion
would be appropriate.  I'll have to see if it fits in an evening
bag...

:)
-c
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Re: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

[Bob Sullivan]

Christine,
I don't think it was the bride's idea for no pictures...all from the preacher.
I've seen few who were so rigid.  Only Rabbi's in the sanctuary.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>> Jack,
>> Last wedding I was at, the preacher told her congregation to not take photos.
>> 'They have a professional photographer here and you should please not
>> take photos during the ceremony.'
>> I watched the 'Pro' for a little while and thought she was a 'Guy with
>> a Rebel', so just ignored the Preacher.
>> (I'm a heathen anyway...)
>
> Yikes.  I wonder if that was her standard warning at weddings, or a
> request of the bride & groom..? Or of the photographer?
>
> I can see how "everyone's a photographer" might inspire a bride to
> want to rein it in a little bit.  As she walks down the aisle, instead
> of seeing the loving gazes of all her friends & family, she sees a
> phalanx of iPhones held up to their faces, as they snap & flash
> away... And of course, before the ceremony is over, the images have
> been uploaded to facebook & tagged.  lol.
>
> But, if the pro is a "Guy With a Rebel", well... then you do what you gotta 
> do.
>
> :)
> -c
>
>
>
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>>> In answer to your "survey" question; ..no.
>>> In the case of a good friend, I'd subtly reaffirm that you're still "into" 
>>> it, but are hesitant to bring along your SLR so as not to appear to be 
>>> competing with the pro. The next comment must then come from the friend. If 
>>> you hear only crickets, leave it home..
>>>
>>> From: Christine Nielsen 
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 12:48 PM
>>> Subject: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...
>>>
>>> Here's a survey question... as an invited guest at a wedding, do you
>>> bring your dslr?
>>>
>>> A good friend of mine got married this weekend... I almost didn't
>>> bring it, but in the end, I threw the k-5 & FA 50 in my purse "just in
>>> case" I wanted it later
>>>
>>> It's funny territory, I think.  There's a pro on hand to capture the
>>> day.  Yet, the number of cell phone and p&s cams being held aloft in
>>> the pews is almost comical... On the other hand, maybe the dslr seems
>>> a bit much? I mean, you don't want to be Uncle Harry, elbowing the pro
>>> out of the way to get your shot of the happy couple...
>>>
>>> Hmm.  Maybe the K-01 (in white, of course) for this type of occasion
>>> would be appropriate.  I'll have to see if it fits in an evening
>>> bag...
>>>
>>> :)
>>> -c
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Re: PESO: Killdeer in Flight

[steve harley]

on 2012-04-24 19:43 Walt Gilbert wrote

Caught this one through the passenger-side window of my sister's car with the M
50/2 on the K20D. Didn't have a zoom on hand, unfortunately. Still, I was
pretty happy with the results, all things considered. It's a fairly tight crop,
but I'm happy with the overall resolution, too.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7111327281/
ISO 320, 1/1000 sec, f/2.8


i'd be happy with that shot too; good job focusing at f/2.8; the background 
makes it a very realistic environmental portrait


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RE: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

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That's an easy one:  I bring it. 

Mostly for the reception, and as you said, "just in case" but I want one there.

That being said if I had something smaller and very high quality (Fuji X Pro 1? 
M9? Hey, I can dream) I might prefer that. A bit less conspicuous than a dslr 
might be nice, but I have always gotten nice feedback from the wedding party 
and/or guests when I've shared photos of such events afterwards.

Hey, the paid photographer can't be everywhere. As long as no one gets in 
his/her way, I don't see a problem.

Geez, I've even had a wedding photog sidle up next to me and say, "Yeah, this 
is the shot, thanks!".

Sorry to go on so. To summarize, I vote "bring".

;-)

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Christine Nielsen 
Sent: April 25, 2012 4/25/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

Here's a survey question... as an invited guest at a wedding, do you
bring your dslr?

A good friend of mine got married this weekend... I almost didn't
bring it, but in the end, I threw the k-5 & FA 50 in my purse "just in
case" I wanted it later

It's funny territory, I think.  There's a pro on hand to capture the
day.  Yet, the number of cell phone and p&s cams being held aloft in
the pews is almost comical... On the other hand, maybe the dslr seems
a bit much? I mean, you don't want to be Uncle Harry, elbowing the pro
out of the way to get your shot of the happy couple...

Hmm.  Maybe the K-01 (in white, of course) for this type of occasion
would be appropriate.  I'll have to see if it fits in an evening
bag...

:)
-c
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Vet ER

[jn289]

Don't know if I showed this before, but the photos went with a 
newspaper story. Two photos at the end was when the little brown and 
white dog left this world. The story was about life and death in an 
vet hospital..Joe


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Re: Good news/bad news

[Walt Gilbert]

Thanks, Frank.

Actually, despite the performance differences, my K20D has supplanted 
the K-x as my primary body -- at least when the light is good. And, 
also, I still have the K100D as backup in case disaster (read: idiocy) 
strikes again.


As to the cosmos and all, very seldom have I ever regretted having a 
positive thought. And, generally speaking, those regrets have always 
been ameliorated with positive thoughts. :)



-- Walt

On 4/25/2012 8:49 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Too bad about the body. Good thing you have the K20d as a backup body.

;-)

Hopefully it will be a cheap fix.

Nice to hear of the blessed arrival.

As for praying, I'll send out positive thoughts to the cosmos. It won't change 
anything but it might make both of us feel better.

:-)

Cheers,
frank

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From: Walt Gilbert
Sent: April 25, 2012 4/25/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Subject: Good news/bad news

Hi all,

Welp! As the subject line implies, there's good news and bad news to report.

First, the bad news: The potential "hidden damage" to my K-x someone
alluded to in my post wherein I lamented the loss of my A 50/1.7 is no
longer potential, nor hidden. It is quite real and apparent. It seems
the AF/MF switch is jammed in the MF position, but with the AF contact
extended so that the camera is in permanent AF. It still focuses with
either type of lens on it, though you can't manually focus an AF lens
(at least not without risking damage to the lens motor, I'm assuming).
So, the camera is still plenty operable, but obviously needs to be repaired.

Now the good news: I received my replacement A 50/1.7 today, so all is
almost right with the world. I did a little lens swapping with a PDML'er
(who contacted me privately to make the deal, so I'll respect that
privacy by not naming them or giving any details of the swap unless they
care to identify themselves). It was a permanent replacement rather than
the indefinite loan John Francis so kindly and generously offered me, so
I felt compelled to accept the other offer rather than take advantage of
a kindhearted gesture that would have deprived a fellow Pentaxian of a
fine (if underutilized) lens.

So, you take the good with the bad. I'm hoping the repair for the K-x
will be relatively simple and inexpensive. Everything else about the
camera seems to be working just fine, though. And, now that things are
beginning to pick up a little around the workplace, I may be able to
afford the repair sooner rather than later. One can only hope and/or
pray -- depending upon one's personal religious convictions or lack thereof.

-- Walt




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RE: Good news/bad news

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Too bad about the body. Good thing you have the K20d as a backup body. 

;-)

Hopefully it will be a cheap fix.

Nice to hear of the blessed arrival.

As for praying, I'll send out positive thoughts to the cosmos. It won't change 
anything but it might make both of us feel better.

:-)

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From: Walt Gilbert 
Sent: April 25, 2012 4/25/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Good news/bad news

Hi all,

Welp! As the subject line implies, there's good news and bad news to report.

First, the bad news: The potential "hidden damage" to my K-x someone 
alluded to in my post wherein I lamented the loss of my A 50/1.7 is no 
longer potential, nor hidden. It is quite real and apparent. It seems 
the AF/MF switch is jammed in the MF position, but with the AF contact 
extended so that the camera is in permanent AF. It still focuses with 
either type of lens on it, though you can't manually focus an AF lens 
(at least not without risking damage to the lens motor, I'm assuming). 
So, the camera is still plenty operable, but obviously needs to be repaired.

Now the good news: I received my replacement A 50/1.7 today, so all is 
almost right with the world. I did a little lens swapping with a PDML'er 
(who contacted me privately to make the deal, so I'll respect that 
privacy by not naming them or giving any details of the swap unless they 
care to identify themselves). It was a permanent replacement rather than 
the indefinite loan John Francis so kindly and generously offered me, so 
I felt compelled to accept the other offer rather than take advantage of 
a kindhearted gesture that would have deprived a fellow Pentaxian of a 
fine (if underutilized) lens.

So, you take the good with the bad. I'm hoping the repair for the K-x 
will be relatively simple and inexpensive. Everything else about the 
camera seems to be working just fine, though. And, now that things are 
beginning to pick up a little around the workplace, I may be able to 
afford the repair sooner rather than later. One can only hope and/or 
pray -- depending upon one's personal religious convictions or lack thereof.

-- Walt

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Tripod

[jn289]

Looking for some thoughts on a good pod to hold Pentax 300 F2.8, 500 
F.4 Sigma Mirror, and the 500 F4.5 Pentax..What was I using last 
night was just shaking a little on moon photos..Thanks Joe


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Re: 5DmkIII impressions

[Matthew Hunt]

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 9:39 PM, William Robb
 wrote:

>> http://www.petapixel.com/2012/04/24/ridiculous-nikon-6mm-lens-reappears-priced-at-16-in-the-uk/
>
> I've used that lens. It was quite a blast.
> I think I could have bought the one I used for a few K.
> 20:20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.

That lens provides hindsight. At the same time as foresight,
leftsight, and rightsight.

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Re: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

[William Robb]

On 25/04/2012 1:48 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

Here's a survey question... as an invited guest at a wedding, do you
bring your dslr?



Yes. Going to a wedding without a camera just doesn't seem right. For a 
girl that my wife works with, it's a good thing. Her photographer was an 
idiot who blew the wedding. I got much better pictures, and ended up 
shooting their portraits for them on their first anniversary.



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Re: 5DmkIII impressions

[William Robb]

On 25/04/2012 2:25 PM, Bryan Jacoby wrote:

I think this Nikon 6mm wins:
http://www.petapixel.com/2012/04/24/ridiculous-nikon-6mm-lens-reappears-priced-at-16-in-the-uk/



I've used that lens. It was quite a blast.
I think I could have bought the one I used for a few K.
20:20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.

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Re: The Text Man

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

The "move the pole" button is in LR4...

;-)

cheers,
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From: Don Guthrie 
Sent: April 25, 2012 


If only Photoshop had a "move the pole 1ft left" button. 
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Re: PESO: Killdeer in Flight

[Walt Gilbert]

Thank you, Frank!

I was kind of worried that the pier might seem too distracting or 
out-of-place, but it seemed to work out OK when I got it on the computer.


-- Walt

On 4/25/2012 8:12 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Nice shot! I especially like that you got so much environment in there.

Well done!

cheers,
frank

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From: Walt Gilbert
Sent: April 25, 2012 4/25/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
Subject: Re: PESO: Killdeer in Flight

Thanks, Jack!

I do like the lens, and have been able to get surprisingly sharp shots
even wide-open, and really sharp ones at 2.8 on up to 16. (Oddly enough,
I can't think of a time when I've shot with a narrower aperture than
that.) But for the lack of aperture contacts, I might have used it more
than my 50/1.7.

The passenger window is on the right side of the car in this case, as I
was riding shotgun while my sister drove.

-- Walt

On 4/25/2012 7:08 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Nice wing shot, Walt! I keep an M 50 f/2 around because it doesn't take up a 
lot of room and the mid f stops surprisingly sharp.
Is the "passenger window" on the left side of the car?

Jack

- Original Message -
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Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:43 PM
Subject: PESO: Killdeer in Flight

Hi all,

Caught this one through the passenger-side window of my sister's car with the M 
50/2 on the K20D. Didn't have a zoom on hand, unfortunately. Still, I was 
pretty happy with the results, all things considered. It's a fairly tight crop, 
but I'm happy with the overall resolution, too.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7111327281/
ISO 320, 1/1000 sec, f/2.8

Comments and critiques are welcome, as always.

Thanks,

Walt

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Re: PESO: Killdeer in Flight

[Walt Gilbert]

On 4/25/2012 8:14 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:


Caught this one through the passenger-side window of my sister's car with
the M 50/2 on the K20D. Didn't have a zoom on hand, unfortunately. Still, I
was pretty happy with the results, all things considered. It's a fairly
tight crop, but I'm happy with the overall resolution, too.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7111327281/
ISO 320, 1/1000 sec, f/2.8

Didn't anyone ever tell you that you can't do bird photography like
that with a 50mm lens?


Ha! Well, yes -- but, luckily, they forgot to tell the bird!

-- Walt

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Re: The Text Man

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Jumping in late with comment.

Love it! Wonderful example of Darwinism in action. 

;-)

It's illegal to use any handheld PED while operating any vehicle (including 
bikes) here in Ontario. This guy is a perfect example of why.

Fun shot, beautifully rendered.

Cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Don Guthrie 
Sent: April 25, 2012 4/25/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: The Text Man

Thanks Larry, yeah exposure,focus timing,composition you can't think of 
everything. I wanted to get him just short of the pole but... oh well. 
If only Photoshop had a "move the pole 1ft left" button. h I suppose 
you could. Glad you like liked, it not my usual territory.



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> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:35:02 -0700
> From: Larry Colen 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: The Text Man
> Message-ID: <6d223e9d-d469-4184-b463-d065991ae...@red4est.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> On Apr 24, 2012, at 1:17 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:
>
>> With a nod to Godfrey's communicating series and Knarf's bicycle photos, I 
>> snapped this on my evening prowl.
>>
>>
>> http://donspix.posterous.com/no-one-stops-the-dedicated-man-from-retrievin
>>
>>
>> C&C as always important to me.
> A slightly blurry photo of a guy on a bike, all it needs to be perfect is to 
> be looking down some stairs.
>
>
> Seriously though, it's a great shot.  Great exposure, nearly perfect 
> composition (I'd prefer a smidge of space between the front tire and the 
> light pole).
>
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Re: OT: Fun new photographic meme

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

I've never planked so I guess I'm not a hipster.

Not that I ever thought I was one...

Cheers,
frank (not hip and proud of it)

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From: "P. J. Alling" 
Sent: April 25, 2012 4/25/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: OT: Fun new photographic meme

Hipster is a state of mind...

On 4/24/2012 10:58 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
> Some of them looked a little long in the tooth for hipsters.
>
> From: David Parsons
>
>> It's the new thing for hipsters to do since planking is passe.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 
>>  wrote:
>>> Can you explain how this is "fun"?
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Darren Addy  
>>> wrote:
 As with all things meme-ish, your mileage may vary.
 http://epicowling.com/epic/
>


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Re: PESO: Killdeer in Flight

[Matthew Hunt]

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:

> Caught this one through the passenger-side window of my sister's car with
> the M 50/2 on the K20D. Didn't have a zoom on hand, unfortunately. Still, I
> was pretty happy with the results, all things considered. It's a fairly
> tight crop, but I'm happy with the overall resolution, too.
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7111327281/
> ISO 320, 1/1000 sec, f/2.8

Didn't anyone ever tell you that you can't do bird photography like
that with a 50mm lens?

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Re: PESO: Killdeer in Flight

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Nice shot! I especially like that you got so much environment in there.

Well done!

cheers,
frank

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From: Walt Gilbert 
Sent: April 25, 2012 4/25/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: PESO: Killdeer in Flight

Thanks, Jack!

I do like the lens, and have been able to get surprisingly sharp shots 
even wide-open, and really sharp ones at 2.8 on up to 16. (Oddly enough, 
I can't think of a time when I've shot with a narrower aperture than 
that.) But for the lack of aperture contacts, I might have used it more 
than my 50/1.7.

The passenger window is on the right side of the car in this case, as I 
was riding shotgun while my sister drove.

-- Walt

On 4/25/2012 7:08 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
> Nice wing shot, Walt! I keep an M 50 f/2 around because it doesn't take up a 
> lot of room and the mid f stops surprisingly sharp.
> Is the "passenger window" on the left side of the car?
>
> Jack
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Walt Gilbert
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Cc:
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:43 PM
> Subject: PESO: Killdeer in Flight
>
> Hi all,
>
> Caught this one through the passenger-side window of my sister's car with the 
> M 50/2 on the K20D. Didn't have a zoom on hand, unfortunately. Still, I was 
> pretty happy with the results, all things considered. It's a fairly tight 
> crop, but I'm happy with the overall resolution, too.
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7111327281/
> ISO 320, 1/1000 sec, f/2.8
>
> Comments and critiques are welcome, as always.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Walt
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Re: PESO: Mahrous

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

I asked his name at the end of our conversation and then asked him to spell it. 
I may have got it wrong but that's my recollection of the spelling of his name. 
He was middle eastern as far as I could tell.

Seemed like a very nice fellow. I was surprised that he tried to look fierce 
(even if it was only mocking fierce); he was anything but during our 
conversation.

I was thinking of asking for a nice smile but when I take these photos I prefer 
to just let the subjects look the way they choose without any prompting or 
comment from me.

Thanks for the comment, and thanks as well for your comment on Trust and Obey. 
Interesting article you linked to...

Thanks to Walt, Jack, Dave (I think I didn't miss anyone) and all who looked.

cheers,
frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: Derby Chang 
Sent: April 25, 2012 4/25/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: PESO: Mahrous


This is saturated with personality. Is "mahrous" his name?



On 25/04/2012 12:54 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
> Yet another "street portrait":
>
> After I spent a few minutes shooting the "Trust and obey Jesus" folks, this 
> fellow told me I took good pictures.
>
> I asked him how he would know since he'd never seen one and he replied that 
> he could "just tell".
>
> After a few minutes of chatting I asked him if he wanted me to take a picture 
> of him. He said yes and (for some reason) made this face:
>
>   http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/04/mahrous.html?m=1
>
> ;-)
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comment welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

[Ann Sanfedele]

I always bring the good camera to a wedding and reception.  Allows me to 
hide behind it and not have to deal with all the standard gooey stuff.. 
Unless I've promised to be the photographer for them, they expect some 
shots as a present from me. Either that or they have paid me to shoot.


That being said, I've ended up enjoying a number of the ones I was paid 
to shoot because the bride and groom were offspring of friends.


Most of the time the pro hired to shoot is fine with me shooting too...
and I dont' use flash.  But once one of them got rather amusingly 
competitive... he checked out what I was doing and copied me! lol!


ann


On 4/25/2012 19:16, David J Brooks wrote:

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:

Here's a survey question... as an invited guest at a wedding, do you
bring your dslr?


Yes i do, but as some one stated, i stay out of the way avoid flash,
and take candid shots of our area. If i don't bring a camera to
weddings people think i don't like them/:-)

Dave


A good friend of mine got married this weekend... I almost didn't
bring it, but in the end, I threw the k-5&  FA 50 in my purse "just in
case" I wanted it later

It's funny territory, I think.  There's a pro on hand to capture the
day.  Yet, the number of cell phone and p&s cams being held aloft in
the pews is almost comical... On the other hand, maybe the dslr seems
a bit much? I mean, you don't want to be Uncle Harry, elbowing the pro
out of the way to get your shot of the happy couple...

Hmm.  Maybe the K-01 (in white, of course) for this type of occasion
would be appropriate.  I'll have to see if it fits in an evening
bag...

:)
-c
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Re: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

[Paul Stenquist]

When I was shooting weddings, I generally didn't mind guest snappers, as long 
as they didn't use flash. But flashers can screw up exposures, so I would 
usually buttonhole those types and ask them to put the flash away. I've also 
run into a few snappers who wouldn't hesitate to step right in front of me. 
They always got a tap on the shoulder and a very direct suggestion in regard to 
where they should go.
Paul
On Apr 25, 2012, at 8:17 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>> Jack,
>> Last wedding I was at, the preacher told her congregation to not take photos.
>> 'They have a professional photographer here and you should please not
>> take photos during the ceremony.'
>> I watched the 'Pro' for a little while and thought she was a 'Guy with
>> a Rebel', so just ignored the Preacher.
>> (I'm a heathen anyway...)
> 
> Yikes.  I wonder if that was her standard warning at weddings, or a
> request of the bride & groom..? Or of the photographer?
> 
> I can see how "everyone's a photographer" might inspire a bride to
> want to rein it in a little bit.  As she walks down the aisle, instead
> of seeing the loving gazes of all her friends & family, she sees a
> phalanx of iPhones held up to their faces, as they snap & flash
> away... And of course, before the ceremony is over, the images have
> been uploaded to facebook & tagged.  lol.
> 
> But, if the pro is a "Guy With a Rebel", well... then you do what you gotta 
> do.
> 
> :)
> -c
> 
> 
> 
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>>> In answer to your "survey" question; ..no.
>>> In the case of a good friend, I'd subtly reaffirm that you're still "into" 
>>> it, but are hesitant to bring along your SLR so as not to appear to be 
>>> competing with the pro. The next comment must then come from the friend. If 
>>> you hear only crickets, leave it home..
>>> 
>>> From: Christine Nielsen 
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 12:48 PM
>>> Subject: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...
>>> 
>>> Here's a survey question... as an invited guest at a wedding, do you
>>> bring your dslr?
>>> 
>>> A good friend of mine got married this weekend... I almost didn't
>>> bring it, but in the end, I threw the k-5 & FA 50 in my purse "just in
>>> case" I wanted it later
>>> 
>>> It's funny territory, I think.  There's a pro on hand to capture the
>>> day.  Yet, the number of cell phone and p&s cams being held aloft in
>>> the pews is almost comical... On the other hand, maybe the dslr seems
>>> a bit much? I mean, you don't want to be Uncle Harry, elbowing the pro
>>> out of the way to get your shot of the happy couple...
>>> 
>>> Hmm.  Maybe the K-01 (in white, of course) for this type of occasion
>>> would be appropriate.  I'll have to see if it fits in an evening
>>> bag...
>>> 
>>> :)
>>> -c
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Fighting with the K-5

[Larry Colen]

I was the official photographer at the SF Blues Exchange last weekend.  I was 
amused to note that two other guys each seemed to spend more time than I did 
taking photos.  Josh with his new 5D3, and Chris with his 60D.  I suspect that 
someone talked to Chris at some point at late night on Friday, because he'd 
been using flash all night long. At one point I asked him if he had any faster 
lenses so that he didn't need to use flash, he replied that he didn't and 
continued using the flash for about another 40 minutes, and then I never saw 
him use flash again.  
I did have one friend comment to me on Saturday that I should market my IR 
flash to other dance photographers.

All weekend long I felt like I was fighting with my K-5, rather than just using 
it.  I suspect that a lot of my problems were with my inexpensive split prism 
focusing screen.  At least the metering problems.  When I put the 18-250 on the 
metering flat out didn't work.  Even with faster glass, most of the metering 
indoors was 0.7-2.0 stops under, and not consistently either.  Unfortunately, 
the lighting indoors tended to be rather uneven and I blew a lot of photos by 
not keeping a better eye on exposure. 

Focusing tended to be a problem too.  I ended up throwing away a lot of what 
would have been great photos because of poor focus.  Poor autofocus is 
something I probably can't (accurately) blame on the focusing screen.  There's 
no easy way, however, to see which blown focus shots were done with auto focus 
and which with manual focus.

My sigma 20/1.8 did it's usual magic.  It seems that most of the photos I got 
with it were crap, but when it worked, it was wonderful.  My feeling is that 
the glass is great, but there is something about the mechanics of it that makes 
it tough to focus, even in autofocus.  I wonder how it would work with some 
sort of SDM motor.  On the other hand I have a wonderful lens of the same 
speed, that originally had the same AOV as I'm getting with the sigma 20, but 
that would require a 24x36 sensor to use with my FA31.  I have to admit that I 
also blew a lot of photos with the 31 as well.

I think that part of my issue was that since the light was difficult, but for 
the most part not impossible (or at least improbable), I didn't give it enough 
respect. The only time I pulled my monopod out was when shooting with long 
glass outside.  It's also possible that a better focusing aid would really 
help.  It's too bad I cant get something like a laser based cross that I could 
project based on where the focus point was selected.

I did get a few good shots this weekend, but they almost seem to have been in 
spite of my gear, rather than because of it.

It will also be interesting to see what the other guys got.

If you're curious to see the mass post of snapshots this weekend, and are on 
facebook, just look in my profile.
I need to go through those and start culling them down to the few that are not 
just snapshots of fun moments for the people there, but which are actually good 
photos that someone who wasn't there might want to see.


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Re: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

[Christine Nielsen]

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Jack,
> Last wedding I was at, the preacher told her congregation to not take photos.
> 'They have a professional photographer here and you should please not
> take photos during the ceremony.'
> I watched the 'Pro' for a little while and thought she was a 'Guy with
> a Rebel', so just ignored the Preacher.
> (I'm a heathen anyway...)

Yikes.  I wonder if that was her standard warning at weddings, or a
request of the bride & groom..? Or of the photographer?

I can see how "everyone's a photographer" might inspire a bride to
want to rein it in a little bit.  As she walks down the aisle, instead
of seeing the loving gazes of all her friends & family, she sees a
phalanx of iPhones held up to their faces, as they snap & flash
away... And of course, before the ceremony is over, the images have
been uploaded to facebook & tagged.  lol.

But, if the pro is a "Guy With a Rebel", well... then you do what you gotta do.

:)
-c



> Regards,  Bob S.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> In answer to your "survey" question; ..no.
>> In the case of a good friend, I'd subtly reaffirm that you're still "into" 
>> it, but are hesitant to bring along your SLR so as not to appear to be 
>> competing with the pro. The next comment must then come from the friend. If 
>> you hear only crickets, leave it home..
>>
>> From: Christine Nielsen 
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 12:48 PM
>> Subject: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...
>>
>> Here's a survey question... as an invited guest at a wedding, do you
>> bring your dslr?
>>
>> A good friend of mine got married this weekend... I almost didn't
>> bring it, but in the end, I threw the k-5 & FA 50 in my purse "just in
>> case" I wanted it later
>>
>> It's funny territory, I think.  There's a pro on hand to capture the
>> day.  Yet, the number of cell phone and p&s cams being held aloft in
>> the pews is almost comical... On the other hand, maybe the dslr seems
>> a bit much? I mean, you don't want to be Uncle Harry, elbowing the pro
>> out of the way to get your shot of the happy couple...
>>
>> Hmm.  Maybe the K-01 (in white, of course) for this type of occasion
>> would be appropriate.  I'll have to see if it fits in an evening
>> bag...
>>
>> :)
>> -c
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May PUG - Counting Down....

[Brian Walters]

The deadline is getting close, people.

So far there are 8 submissions for our 'Blue' theme.


The details:

Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html


The main requirements are:

* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 pixels on the longest side.
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body  
or lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to  
ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line.

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Re: GESO: tumblr update

[Mark C]

On 4/24/2012 6:31 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote:

An imaginary field-trip to belgrade and more at:
http://tamoneki.tumblr.com

Excellent collection! I feel like I've been to a huge banquet (for the 
eyes)...


MCC

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Re: micro 4/3 body, only $159???

[Stan Halpin]

Cameta is very reliable in my experience. And a friend/former colleague is a 
cousin of Cameta's owner so I have a backdoor route to file complaints if it 
were ever needed. But it never has been necessary for the several new and used 
items I have bought through them.

stan

On Apr 25, 2012, at 11:28 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

> I've never dealt with Cameta, I don't know if they're reliable or not.  You 
> will need a lens however, what are they asking for one?
> 
> On 4/24/2012 2:48 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
>> http://www.cameta.com/Olympus-Pen-E-PL1-Micro-4-3-Digital-Camera-Body-Black-
>> 66752.cfm
>> 
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Re: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

[Walt Gilbert]

I may be asked never to bring a camera to another wedding. The only one 
I've ever photographed (a couple of months ago as a favor to the bride 
and groom, both longtime friends of mine) didn't even survive the 
honeymoon and was annulled within a week.


The important thing, though, is that I got back the great old pool cue I 
lost on a bet 20 years ago in return for the favor. I almost feel bad 
enough to give it back to the groom. *Almost*.


-- Walt

On 4/25/2012 6:16 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

Yes i do, but as some one stated, i stay out of the way avoid flash,
and take candid shots of our area. If i don't bring a camera to
weddings people think i don't like them/:-)

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Re: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

[Matthew Hunt]

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 7:16 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:

> If i don't bring a camera to weddings people think i don't like them/:-)

"Oh, it not that, of course! You're just ugly."

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Re: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

[David J Brooks]

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
> Here's a survey question... as an invited guest at a wedding, do you
> bring your dslr?

Yes i do, but as some one stated, i stay out of the way avoid flash,
and take candid shots of our area. If i don't bring a camera to
weddings people think i don't like them/:-)

Dave
>
> A good friend of mine got married this weekend... I almost didn't
> bring it, but in the end, I threw the k-5 & FA 50 in my purse "just in
> case" I wanted it later
>
> It's funny territory, I think.  There's a pro on hand to capture the
> day.  Yet, the number of cell phone and p&s cams being held aloft in
> the pews is almost comical... On the other hand, maybe the dslr seems
> a bit much? I mean, you don't want to be Uncle Harry, elbowing the pro
> out of the way to get your shot of the happy couple...
>
> Hmm.  Maybe the K-01 (in white, of course) for this type of occasion
> would be appropriate.  I'll have to see if it fits in an evening
> bag...
>
> :)
> -c
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Re: PESO - Auto Service

[jn289]

Thanks, Charles. Shot this from car window stopped at traffic light, Joe



On Apr 23, 2012, at 21:29, jn289 wrote:


 Auto Service,  LX Camera, Joe

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15593713



Cute!

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PESOs - I can just hear Bill Cosby

[jn289]

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15604774

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15604772

Just a point and shoot camera.
This is what Bill Cosby always talks about...Joe

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Re: PESO - Auto Service

[Charles Robinson]

On Apr 23, 2012, at 21:29, jn289 wrote:

> Auto Service,  LX Camera, Joe
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15593713
> 

Cute!

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Re: PESO- Baby gets food

[jn289]

Thanks to all that looked, Joe



Baby gets food, in a park on  up on a hill, LX Camera, 300mm  F4.0 Pentax lens


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Re: PESO - Auto Service

[jn289]

Thanks to all that looked..Joe




Great catch.

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:02 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:

 Love it

 Dave

 On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 10:29 PM, jn289  wrote:

 Auto Service,  LX Camera, Joe

  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15593713


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Re: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

[Walt Gilbert]

BAH!

Sharpness, composition, white balance, lighting: All are bourgeois concepts!

-- Walt

On 4/25/2012 4:39 PM, Derby Chang wrote:

Reminds me of this

http://www.petapixel.com/2012/04/23/couple-pays-750-for-the-worst-wedding-photos-ever/ 




On 26/04/2012 7:21 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Jack,
Last wedding I was at, the preacher told her congregation to not take 
photos.

'They have a professional photographer here and you should please not
take photos during the ceremony.'
I watched the 'Pro' for a little while and thought she was a 'Guy with
a Rebel', so just ignored the Preacher.
(I'm a heathen anyway...)
Regards,  Bob S.


On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:

In answer to your "survey" question; ..no.
In the case of a good friend, I'd subtly reaffirm that you're still 
"into" it, but are hesitant to bring along your SLR so as not to 
appear to be competing with the pro. The next comment must then come 
from the friend. If you hear only crickets, leave it home..


From: Christine Nielsen
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 12:48 PM
Subject: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

Here's a survey question... as an invited guest at a wedding, do you
bring your dslr?

A good friend of mine got married this weekend... I almost didn't
bring it, but in the end, I threw the k-5&  FA 50 in my purse "just in
case" I wanted it later

It's funny territory, I think.  There's a pro on hand to capture the
day.  Yet, the number of cell phone and p&s cams being held aloft in
the pews is almost comical... On the other hand, maybe the dslr seems
a bit much? I mean, you don't want to be Uncle Harry, elbowing the pro
out of the way to get your shot of the happy couple...

Hmm.  Maybe the K-01 (in white, of course) for this type of occasion
would be appropriate.  I'll have to see if it fits in an evening
bag...

:)
-c
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Re: The Text Man

[jn289]

This reminds me of the lady that fell in the shopping center. She was 
texting while walking...Joe



With a nod to Godfrey's communicating series and Knarf's bicycle 
photos, I snapped this on my evening prowl.



http://donspix.posterous.com/no-one-stops-the-dedicated-man-from-retrievin


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Re: PESO: One Little Joy

[Walt Gilbert]

Thanks again, Joe!

-- Walt

On 4/25/2012 4:44 PM, jn289 wrote:

Walt, very nice, Joe




Hi all,

Having pulled out of my despondency with knowledge that I have a 
replacement for my A50/1.7 on the way, I thought I might as well pull 
out my original beloved lens, the M 50/2 -- the one I feared was 
destroyed when my cat knocked it off the dresser. It still feels a 
little weird while focusing -- though, that could be due to the fact 
that I'd gotten so used to using the A 50/1.7 & K 50/1.4.


In any event, I took it out into the yard and popped off a few shots 
before I headed out for a bit this evening. I have to say I'm pleased 
with the sharpness it produces -- I think it may even be just a 
smidge sharper than the A50/1.7. Here's one of the few shots I 
knocked out late this afternoon -- it's my next door neighbor's 
daughter, who happened to be outside playing while I was taking a few 
flower shots for my own amusement. I have to say, I'm pretty happy 
with the results:


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7108383777/
K20D, M 50/2, ISO 100, 1/200 sec, f/3.5(?)

Freckles are one of my weaknesses when it comes to human subjects. I 
just find them enchanting.


Nevertheless, this was a bit of a therapeutic shot. I still really 
like the lens -- a lot. I just wish it had A contacts. Is the A 50/2 
as nice a lens as the M 50/2? I may look into one someday if it is.


Comments, critiques and suggestions are, as always, eagerly solicited.

Thanks!

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RE: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

[John Sessoms]

Depends on whether you want to take photos or not.

The main advantage I see for the DSLR (when shooting as a guest) is the 
flash doesn't turn on automatically as it does with many P&S cameras. 
That could be a factor in some church weddings where they don't allow 
flash during the ceremony.


From: Christine Nielsen


Here's a survey question... as an invited guest at a wedding, do you
bring your dslr?

A good friend of mine got married this weekend... I almost didn't
bring it, but in the end, I threw the k-5 & FA 50 in my purse "just in
case" I wanted it later

It's funny territory, I think.  There's a pro on hand to capture the
day.  Yet, the number of cell phone and p&s cams being held aloft in
the pews is almost comical... On the other hand, maybe the dslr seems
a bit much? I mean, you don't want to be Uncle Harry, elbowing the pro
out of the way to get your shot of the happy couple...

Hmm.  Maybe the K-01 (in white, of course) for this type of occasion
would be appropriate.  I'll have to see if it fits in an evening
bag...

:)
-c
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Re: Good news/bad news

[Walt Gilbert]

Thanks, Joe!

I figure I'm pretty fortunate already, but after the past couple of 
years, I reckon I've earned it. ;-)


-- Walt

On 4/25/2012 4:20 PM, jn289 wrote:

Walt, GOOD LUCK, Joe



Hi all,

Welp! As the subject line implies, there's good news and bad news to 
report.


First, the bad news: The potential "hidden damage" to my K-x someone 
alluded to in my post wherein I lamented the loss of my A 50/1.7 is 
no longer potential, nor hidden. It is quite real and apparent. It 
seems the AF/MF switch is jammed in the MF position, but with the AF 
contact extended so that the camera is in permanent AF. It still 
focuses with either type of lens on it, though you can't manually 
focus an AF lens (at least not without risking damage to the lens 
motor, I'm assuming). So, the camera is still plenty operable, but 
obviously needs to be repaired.


Now the good news: I received my replacement A 50/1.7 today, so all 
is almost right with the world. I did a little lens swapping with a 
PDML'er (who contacted me privately to make the deal, so I'll respect 
that privacy by not naming them or giving any details of the swap 
unless they care to identify themselves). It was a permanent 
replacement rather than the indefinite loan John Francis so kindly 
and generously offered me, so I felt compelled to accept the other 
offer rather than take advantage of a kindhearted gesture that would 
have deprived a fellow Pentaxian of a fine (if underutilized) lens.


So, you take the good with the bad. I'm hoping the repair for the K-x 
will be relatively simple and inexpensive. Everything else about the 
camera seems to be working just fine, though. And, now that things 
are beginning to pick up a little around the workplace, I may be able 
to afford the repair sooner rather than later. One can only hope 
and/or pray -- depending upon one's personal religious convictions or 
lack thereof.


-- Walt

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Re: PESO: Mahrous

[Derby Chang]

This is saturated with personality. Is "mahrous" his name?



On 25/04/2012 12:54 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Yet another "street portrait":

After I spent a few minutes shooting the "Trust and obey Jesus" folks, this 
fellow told me I took good pictures.

I asked him how he would know since he'd never seen one and he replied that he could 
"just tell".

After a few minutes of chatting I asked him if he wanted me to take a picture 
of him. He said yes and (for some reason) made this face:

  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/04/mahrous.html?m=1

;-)

Hope you enjoy. Comment welcome.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO: One Little Joy

[jn289]

Walt, very nice, Joe




Hi all,

Having pulled out of my despondency with knowledge that I have a 
replacement for my A50/1.7 on the way, I thought I might as well 
pull out my original beloved lens, the M 50/2 -- the one I feared 
was destroyed when my cat knocked it off the dresser. It still feels 
a little weird while focusing -- though, that could be due to the 
fact that I'd gotten so used to using the A 50/1.7 & K 50/1.4.


In any event, I took it out into the yard and popped off a few shots 
before I headed out for a bit this evening. I have to say I'm 
pleased with the sharpness it produces -- I think it may even be 
just a smidge sharper than the A50/1.7. Here's one of the few shots 
I knocked out late this afternoon -- it's my next door neighbor's 
daughter, who happened to be outside playing while I was taking a 
few flower shots for my own amusement. I have to say, I'm pretty 
happy with the results:


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7108383777/
K20D, M 50/2, ISO 100, 1/200 sec, f/3.5(?)

Freckles are one of my weaknesses when it comes to human subjects. I 
just find them enchanting.


Nevertheless, this was a bit of a therapeutic shot. I still really 
like the lens -- a lot. I just wish it had A contacts. Is the A 50/2 
as nice a lens as the M 50/2? I may look into one someday if it is.


Comments, critiques and suggestions are, as always, eagerly solicited.

Thanks!

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Re: GESO: tumblr update

[Derby Chang]

As always, Luka, I love your dreamlike excursions



On 25/04/2012 8:31 AM, Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote:

An imaginary field-trip to belgrade and more at:
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Re: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

[Derby Chang]

Reminds me of this

http://www.petapixel.com/2012/04/23/couple-pays-750-for-the-worst-wedding-photos-ever/


On 26/04/2012 7:21 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Jack,
Last wedding I was at, the preacher told her congregation to not take photos.
'They have a professional photographer here and you should please not
take photos during the ceremony.'
I watched the 'Pro' for a little while and thought she was a 'Guy with
a Rebel', so just ignored the Preacher.
(I'm a heathen anyway...)
Regards,  Bob S.


On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:

In answer to your "survey" question; ..no.
In the case of a good friend, I'd subtly reaffirm that you're still "into" it, 
but are hesitant to bring along your SLR so as not to appear to be competing with the 
pro. The next comment must then come from the friend. If you hear only crickets, leave it 
home..

From: Christine Nielsen
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 12:48 PM
Subject: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

Here's a survey question... as an invited guest at a wedding, do you
bring your dslr?

A good friend of mine got married this weekend... I almost didn't
bring it, but in the end, I threw the k-5&  FA 50 in my purse "just in
case" I wanted it later

It's funny territory, I think.  There's a pro on hand to capture the
day.  Yet, the number of cell phone and p&s cams being held aloft in
the pews is almost comical... On the other hand, maybe the dslr seems
a bit much? I mean, you don't want to be Uncle Harry, elbowing the pro
out of the way to get your shot of the happy couple...

Hmm.  Maybe the K-01 (in white, of course) for this type of occasion
would be appropriate.  I'll have to see if it fits in an evening
bag...

:)
-c
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Re: GESO: tumblr update

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I like the cell phone, hear plug photo..Joe



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Re: 5DmkIII impressions

[Bryan Jacoby]

It still wins. :)

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Eric Featherstone
 wrote:
> On 25 April 2012 21:25, Bryan Jacoby  wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
>>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Eric Featherstone
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 There was the Sigma AF 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 EX DG designed for both film
 and APS-C digital.
>>>
>>> Nice, I wasn't aware of that one. Sigma seems to be doing nice work in
>>> the wide angle market these days.
>>>
>> I think this Nikon 6mm wins:
>> http://www.petapixel.com/2012/04/24/ridiculous-nikon-6mm-lens-reappears-priced-at-16-in-the-uk/
>
> Nah, that's cheating. It's a fisheye not rectilinear :)
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Re: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

[Bob Sullivan]

Jack,
Last wedding I was at, the preacher told her congregation to not take photos.
'They have a professional photographer here and you should please not
take photos during the ceremony.'
I watched the 'Pro' for a little while and thought she was a 'Guy with
a Rebel', so just ignored the Preacher.
(I'm a heathen anyway...)
Regards,  Bob S.


On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> In answer to your "survey" question; ..no.
> In the case of a good friend, I'd subtly reaffirm that you're still "into" 
> it, but are hesitant to bring along your SLR so as not to appear to be 
> competing with the pro. The next comment must then come from the friend. If 
> you hear only crickets, leave it home..
>
> From: Christine Nielsen 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 12:48 PM
> Subject: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...
>
> Here's a survey question... as an invited guest at a wedding, do you
> bring your dslr?
>
> A good friend of mine got married this weekend... I almost didn't
> bring it, but in the end, I threw the k-5 & FA 50 in my purse "just in
> case" I wanted it later
>
> It's funny territory, I think.  There's a pro on hand to capture the
> day.  Yet, the number of cell phone and p&s cams being held aloft in
> the pews is almost comical... On the other hand, maybe the dslr seems
> a bit much? I mean, you don't want to be Uncle Harry, elbowing the pro
> out of the way to get your shot of the happy couple...
>
> Hmm.  Maybe the K-01 (in white, of course) for this type of occasion
> would be appropriate.  I'll have to see if it fits in an evening
> bag...
>
> :)
> -c
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Re: Good news/bad news

[jn289]

Walt, GOOD LUCK, Joe



Hi all,

Welp! As the subject line implies, there's good news and bad news to report.

First, the bad news: The potential "hidden damage" to my K-x someone 
alluded to in my post wherein I lamented the loss of my A 50/1.7 is 
no longer potential, nor hidden. It is quite real and apparent. It 
seems the AF/MF switch is jammed in the MF position, but with the AF 
contact extended so that the camera is in permanent AF. It still 
focuses with either type of lens on it, though you can't manually 
focus an AF lens (at least not without risking damage to the lens 
motor, I'm assuming). So, the camera is still plenty operable, but 
obviously needs to be repaired.


Now the good news: I received my replacement A 50/1.7 today, so all 
is almost right with the world. I did a little lens swapping with a 
PDML'er (who contacted me privately to make the deal, so I'll 
respect that privacy by not naming them or giving any details of the 
swap unless they care to identify themselves). It was a permanent 
replacement rather than the indefinite loan John Francis so kindly 
and generously offered me, so I felt compelled to accept the other 
offer rather than take advantage of a kindhearted gesture that would 
have deprived a fellow Pentaxian of a fine (if underutilized) lens.


So, you take the good with the bad. I'm hoping the repair for the 
K-x will be relatively simple and inexpensive. Everything else about 
the camera seems to be working just fine, though. And, now that 
things are beginning to pick up a little around the workplace, I may 
be able to afford the repair sooner rather than later. One can only 
hope and/or pray -- depending upon one's personal religious 
convictions or lack thereof.


-- Walt

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Re: 5DmkIII impressions

[Eric Featherstone]

On 25 April 2012 21:25, Bryan Jacoby  wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Eric Featherstone
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> There was the Sigma AF 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 EX DG designed for both film
>>> and APS-C digital.
>>
>> Nice, I wasn't aware of that one. Sigma seems to be doing nice work in
>> the wide angle market these days.
>>
> I think this Nikon 6mm wins:
> http://www.petapixel.com/2012/04/24/ridiculous-nikon-6mm-lens-reappears-priced-at-16-in-the-uk/

Nah, that's cheating. It's a fisheye not rectilinear :)


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Re: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

[Jack Davis]

In answer to your "survey" question; ..no. 
In the case of a good friend, I'd subtly reaffirm that you're still "into" it, 
but are hesitant to bring along your SLR so as not to appear to be competing 
with the pro. The next comment must then come from the friend. If you hear only 
crickets, leave it home..

From: Christine Nielsen 
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List  
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 12:48 PM
Subject: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

Here's a survey question... as an invited guest at a wedding, do you
bring your dslr?

A good friend of mine got married this weekend... I almost didn't
bring it, but in the end, I threw the k-5 & FA 50 in my purse "just in
case" I wanted it later

It's funny territory, I think.  There's a pro on hand to capture the
day.  Yet, the number of cell phone and p&s cams being held aloft in
the pews is almost comical... On the other hand, maybe the dslr seems
a bit much? I mean, you don't want to be Uncle Harry, elbowing the pro
out of the way to get your shot of the happy couple...

Hmm.  Maybe the K-01 (in white, of course) for this type of occasion
would be appropriate.  I'll have to see if it fits in an evening
bag...

:)
-c
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Re: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

[Bruce Walker]

Christine, I agree with every word that Bob said.

When my old colleague got married last fall I sat a couple of rows
back from the front and shot from the pews with my DA* 55. The "pro"
was apparently one of the many Guy With A Rebel sorts and missed much
that I got. And vice-versa of course--he did zillions of posed wedding
party shots that I would never attempt.

At the reception, he had no flash and only slow zooms, so he twiddled
his thumbs while I got a lot of dancing shots by dragging the shutter
and bouncing flash. The MIL's were thrilled I hear. I put my shots up
on Facebook for them and they were very well received. Some are in my
portfolio now. :-)


On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>
> Christine,
> I always take my camera and shoot photos.
> I stay out of the hired photographer's way and
> often shoot from the pews or background.
> I usually put the best shots up on Picasa and
> send the link to the bride and groom.
> Mothers of the B&G often love the quick feedback.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Christine Nielsen 
> wrote:
> > Here's a survey question... as an invited guest at a wedding, do you
> > bring your dslr?
> >
> > A good friend of mine got married this weekend... I almost didn't
> > bring it, but in the end, I threw the k-5 & FA 50 in my purse "just in
> > case" I wanted it later
> >
> > It's funny territory, I think.  There's a pro on hand to capture the
> > day.  Yet, the number of cell phone and p&s cams being held aloft in
> > the pews is almost comical... On the other hand, maybe the dslr seems
> > a bit much? I mean, you don't want to be Uncle Harry, elbowing the pro
> > out of the way to get your shot of the happy couple...
> >
> > Hmm.  Maybe the K-01 (in white, of course) for this type of occasion
> > would be appropriate.  I'll have to see if it fits in an evening
> > bag...
> >
> > :)
> > -c
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Re: 5DmkIII impressions

[Bryan Jacoby]

I think this Nikon 6mm wins:
http://www.petapixel.com/2012/04/24/ridiculous-nikon-6mm-lens-reappears-priced-at-16-in-the-uk/

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
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>> There was the Sigma AF 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 EX DG designed for both film
>> and APS-C digital.
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Re: Pentaxes in the classroom, and reliability

[John Sessoms]

From: Bong Manayon


On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 2:54 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

I have no idea how other brands fare as student cameras, ?but consistent multiple 
failures is a serious issue. ?Is there anyone at Pentax I could point him to? ?At the 
very least, they might find his class a good source of "torture testing", as 
the cameras probably get a lot more usage than the vast majority of entry level cameras. 
?His problems are kind of a shame, because I think that a big part of the reason that the 
K1000 was such an iconic student camera was its robustness.


Okay...here's some observation in the school I teach in:

1. The Fuji S2s (ca.2002) are now dead.
2. The Nikon D70s (2004) are barely hanging on; some the LCDs are
gone, some the buttons or dials does not work anymore and in some the
viewfinder LEDs are dead.
3. The Canon 350Ds (2003? but they outwardly appear to be newer
compared to the D70s) are beginning to go "Error 99" but when they
work...they work.

There are a couple of Canon 5Ds but are kept for faculty use; there
are newer Canon 450Ds and Nikon D90s that are farely new.

I've seen students drop them, allow them to swing off the strap to hit
desk and what have you and even heard of a story of a student actually
poking the sensor with his finger to see what "photo" would come out
(I suppose while on B with the lens off)...

Bong


Where I went to school, photography students were required to have a 
medium-format film camera. Didn't matter what kind as long as it could 
handle 120 film and was not a Holga.


They've recently dropped that requirement & bought a bunch of Mamiya 
645s the students can check out. The requirement now is for every 
student to have a DSLR. IF the student equips with CaNikon, the school 
has lenses the students can check out. If you use any other brand, 
you're on your own.


There was surprisingly little breakage considering the majority of 
students were 1 year out of high school.


Fortunately, I already had a selection of lenses in Pentax mount to meet 
the requirements (fast tele-prime for baseball).



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Re: The Text Man

[John Sessoms]

From: Don Guthrie


Thanks Larry, yeah exposure,focus timing,composition you can't think of
everything. I wanted to get him just short of the pole but... oh well.
If only Photoshop had a "move the pole 1ft left" button. h I suppose
you could. Glad you like liked, it not my usual territory.


Photoshop CS6 has that. Google "content aware move". ;-D

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Re: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

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On Apr 25, 2012, at 14:48, Christine Nielsen wrote:

> Here's a survey question... as an invited guest at a wedding, do you
> bring your dslr?
> 

Yes.  Used sparingly and appropriately (ie, don't get in the way of the pro 
doing the posed stuff) you get good stuff that way.

And why not?

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Re: Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

[Bob Sullivan]

Christine,
I always take my camera and shoot photos.
I stay out of the hired photographer's way and
often shoot from the pews or background.
I usually put the best shots up on Picasa and
send the link to the bride and groom.
Mothers of the B&G often love the quick feedback.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
> Here's a survey question... as an invited guest at a wedding, do you
> bring your dslr?
>
> A good friend of mine got married this weekend... I almost didn't
> bring it, but in the end, I threw the k-5 & FA 50 in my purse "just in
> case" I wanted it later
>
> It's funny territory, I think.  There's a pro on hand to capture the
> day.  Yet, the number of cell phone and p&s cams being held aloft in
> the pews is almost comical... On the other hand, maybe the dslr seems
> a bit much? I mean, you don't want to be Uncle Harry, elbowing the pro
> out of the way to get your shot of the happy couple...
>
> Hmm.  Maybe the K-01 (in white, of course) for this type of occasion
> would be appropriate.  I'll have to see if it fits in an evening
> bag...
>
> :)
> -c
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Wedding photography (or not), + peso...

[Christine Nielsen]

Here's a survey question... as an invited guest at a wedding, do you
bring your dslr?

A good friend of mine got married this weekend... I almost didn't
bring it, but in the end, I threw the k-5 & FA 50 in my purse "just in
case" I wanted it later

It's funny territory, I think.  There's a pro on hand to capture the
day.  Yet, the number of cell phone and p&s cams being held aloft in
the pews is almost comical... On the other hand, maybe the dslr seems
a bit much? I mean, you don't want to be Uncle Harry, elbowing the pro
out of the way to get your shot of the happy couple...

Hmm.  Maybe the K-01 (in white, of course) for this type of occasion
would be appropriate.  I'll have to see if it fits in an evening
bag...

:)
-c
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Re: OT: Fun new photographic meme

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Hipsters?

You've GOT to be kidding me.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 11:10 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> Hipster is a state of mind...
>
> On 4/24/2012 10:58 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
>>
>> Some of them looked a little long in the tooth for hipsters.
>>
>> From: David Parsons
>>
>>> It's the new thing for hipsters to do since planking is passe.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 
>>> wrote:

 Can you explain how this is "fun"?
 Dan Matyola
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 On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Darren Addy 
 wrote:
>
> As with all things meme-ish, your mileage may vary.
> http://epicowling.com/epic/
>>
>>
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RE: OT - The state of the arts (in the US)

[John Sessoms]

From: David Savage


Long, but worth reading:



DS


Well, while I have sympathy for the plight of artists (looking, as it 
were, from the inside out), it's not really a new phenomena. And it 
ain't going to get better even if the economy does improve.


There's a reason why "don't quit your day job" and "starving artist" are 
both long-standing clichés.


My hat's off to anyone who can make a full time living as an artist. 
Most artists have to have at least a part time "real job".


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Re: micro 4/3 body, only $159???

[P. J. Alling]

You could always side step the whole issue by getting one of these, a 
Leica D Vario-Elmar 14-150mm f/3.5-5.6 Asph. OIS.  Then you'd be 
spending maybe 10-20 times the money for a lens than you had on the 
body, but you'd probably never need another lens, though you would need 
a 4:3 to m4:3 adapter.


On 4/25/2012 1:41 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

thats a pretty good deal but it sucks when the kit lens costs nearly
as much as the digital body

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On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Steven Desjardins
wrote:


You can get the kit zoom under $200 or the 17 mm for ~$250 new.  I haven't

checked

used prices.  The trick is that brings the total up to $350-400, and there

are E-Pl2 kits

fro only a little more.

Instead of buying separately, you can get the E-PL1 with 14-42 kit
lens for under $300. For example, $286.99 at Amazon:

http://stdw.us/JGp9aI




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Re: The state of the arts (in the US)

[Bob Sullivan]

The life of an artist is a very hard one in the USA.  If you have
other skills, you use them to earn a living and persue art on the
side.  Those who stick with art for a college degree and then beyond
rarely leave the college student payscale or lifestyle.  Sad but true.
 Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Bipin Gupta  wrote:
> I have been visiting America since 1978, and have great praise for its
> Institutions of Higher Learning. I trained with General Motors, was a
> Management specialist, an MIS Manager for some time and then went back
> to General Management till I retired as an Advisor in one of the
> world's biggest conglomerate.
> 1978 through 1987 I visited many ancillary and small industries and
> was astounded at the skills of American workers of all colors,
> including women. These folks were very humorous and kind too as seen
> by the beer and soda bottles left in the cartons shipped to us in
> India.
> But then America decided to move many of these ancillary industries to
> China loosing many of the basic skills. Now there are no more
> apprentices being imparted these basic skills like making knives,
> scissors, glass bottles, cans etc, as these have all been
> sub-contracted abroad.
> And without these basic skills one cannot learn the higher skills
> required for a nation to grow and sustain itself.
> Asian kids have overtaken the world with a storm at schools and
> colleges, whereas others need calculators to add 12 + 17.
> God Bless America and wish it wakes up to the hard reality - bring
> back manufacturing - every thing - toys, needles, spoons 
> including Computer Science at the Florida College that has dropped it
> from the curriculum.
> Bipin - from a far away enchanting land
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Re: 5DmkIII impressions

[Matthew Hunt]

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Eric Featherstone
 wrote:

> There was the Sigma AF 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 EX DG designed for both film
> and APS-C digital.

Nice, I wasn't aware of that one. Sigma seems to be doing nice work in
the wide angle market these days.

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Re: 5DmkIII impressions

[Eric Featherstone]

On 25 April 2012 19:04, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:56 PM, P. J. Alling
>  wrote:
>
>> Actually no, I'm not.  I remember seeing one somewhere, but I was looking
>> for a link just now and can't find it.  Even a lens with the equivalent of a
>> 12mm AOV on 35mm for APS-C would  be 8mm.  Still a made out of unobtanium.
>
> Yeah, but you're not getting 12mm on a full-frame DSLR, either. It's a
> rangefinder lens that doesn't need to deal with the flange distance
> imposed by a mirror box. The fair comparison is 14mm full-frame DSLR
> vs. 10mm APS-C... that's 114 vs. 102 degrees. There's a difference,
> but it's not earth shattering.

There was the Sigma AF 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 EX DG designed for both film
and APS-C digital.

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Good news/bad news

[Walt Gilbert]

Hi all,

Welp! As the subject line implies, there's good news and bad news to report.

First, the bad news: The potential "hidden damage" to my K-x someone 
alluded to in my post wherein I lamented the loss of my A 50/1.7 is no 
longer potential, nor hidden. It is quite real and apparent. It seems 
the AF/MF switch is jammed in the MF position, but with the AF contact 
extended so that the camera is in permanent AF. It still focuses with 
either type of lens on it, though you can't manually focus an AF lens 
(at least not without risking damage to the lens motor, I'm assuming). 
So, the camera is still plenty operable, but obviously needs to be repaired.


Now the good news: I received my replacement A 50/1.7 today, so all is 
almost right with the world. I did a little lens swapping with a PDML'er 
(who contacted me privately to make the deal, so I'll respect that 
privacy by not naming them or giving any details of the swap unless they 
care to identify themselves). It was a permanent replacement rather than 
the indefinite loan John Francis so kindly and generously offered me, so 
I felt compelled to accept the other offer rather than take advantage of 
a kindhearted gesture that would have deprived a fellow Pentaxian of a 
fine (if underutilized) lens.


So, you take the good with the bad. I'm hoping the repair for the K-x 
will be relatively simple and inexpensive. Everything else about the 
camera seems to be working just fine, though. And, now that things are 
beginning to pick up a little around the workplace, I may be able to 
afford the repair sooner rather than later. One can only hope and/or 
pray -- depending upon one's personal religious convictions or lack thereof.


-- Walt

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Re: 5DmkIII impressions

[Matthew Hunt]

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:56 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:

> Actually no, I'm not.  I remember seeing one somewhere, but I was looking
> for a link just now and can't find it.  Even a lens with the equivalent of a
> 12mm AOV on 35mm for APS-C would  be 8mm.  Still a made out of unobtanium.

Yeah, but you're not getting 12mm on a full-frame DSLR, either. It's a
rangefinder lens that doesn't need to deal with the flange distance
imposed by a mirror box. The fair comparison is 14mm full-frame DSLR
vs. 10mm APS-C... that's 114 vs. 102 degrees. There's a difference,
but it's not earth shattering.

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Re: 5DmkIII impressions

[George Sinos]

Sigma makes an 8-16mm zoom, specifically for APS-C, in several mounts.
 It's $1100 list, but street price is around $700.  They had one of
these at the local camera store but I didn't have much time to look at
it.



gs

George Sinos

gsi...@gmail.com
www.georgesphotos.net
plus.georgesinos.com


On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 12:56 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> Actually no, I'm not.  I remember seeing one somewhere, but I was looking
> for a link just now and can't find it.  Even a lens with the equivalent of a
> 12mm AOV on 35mm for APS-C would  be 8mm.  Still a made out of unobtanium.
>
> On 4/25/2012 1:48 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:33 PM, P. J. Alling
>>   wrote:
>>
>>> Ultra wide is the biggest deficiency.  You can get 10mm rectilinear
>>> lenses
>>> for 24x36mm formats, the equivalent in APS-C would ~6.7mm.  Which would
>>> seem
>>> to be extremely difficult to engineer, at a reasonable price with
>>> reasonable
>>> quality.
>>
>> Are you sure about that? The widest rectilinear full-frame lenses on
>> Canon and Nikon's websites are 14mm, and this (undated) Luminous
>> Landscape article says the widest overall is a 12mm Voigtländer (for
>> rangefinder, not SLR):
>>
>> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/ultrawide.shtml
>>
>> The 10-20mm APS-C zooms aren't quite as wide as the 14mm full-frame
>> lenses, but it's pretty close.
>>
>
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The state of the arts (in the US)

[Bipin Gupta]

I have been visiting America since 1978, and have great praise for its
Institutions of Higher Learning. I trained with General Motors, was a
Management specialist, an MIS Manager for some time and then went back
to General Management till I retired as an Advisor in one of the
world's biggest conglomerate.
1978 through 1987 I visited many ancillary and small industries and
was astounded at the skills of American workers of all colors,
including women. These folks were very humorous and kind too as seen
by the beer and soda bottles left in the cartons shipped to us in
India.
But then America decided to move many of these ancillary industries to
China loosing many of the basic skills. Now there are no more
apprentices being imparted these basic skills like making knives,
scissors, glass bottles, cans etc, as these have all been
sub-contracted abroad.
And without these basic skills one cannot learn the higher skills
required for a nation to grow and sustain itself.
Asian kids have overtaken the world with a storm at schools and
colleges, whereas others need calculators to add 12 + 17.
God Bless America and wish it wakes up to the hard reality - bring
back manufacturing - every thing - toys, needles, spoons 
including Computer Science at the Florida College that has dropped it
from the curriculum.
Bipin - from a far away enchanting land

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Re: 5DmkIII impressions

[P. J. Alling]

Actually no, I'm not.  I remember seeing one somewhere, but I was 
looking for a link just now and can't find it.  Even a lens with the 
equivalent of a 12mm AOV on 35mm for APS-C would  be 8mm.  Still a made 
out of unobtanium.


On 4/25/2012 1:48 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:33 PM, P. J. Alling
  wrote:


Ultra wide is the biggest deficiency.  You can get 10mm rectilinear lenses
for 24x36mm formats, the equivalent in APS-C would ~6.7mm.  Which would seem
to be extremely difficult to engineer, at a reasonable price with reasonable
quality.

Are you sure about that? The widest rectilinear full-frame lenses on
Canon and Nikon's websites are 14mm, and this (undated) Luminous
Landscape article says the widest overall is a 12mm Voigtländer (for
rangefinder, not SLR):

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/ultrawide.shtml

The 10-20mm APS-C zooms aren't quite as wide as the 14mm full-frame
lenses, but it's pretty close.




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Re: micro 4/3 body, only $159???

[Matthew Hunt]

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:41 PM, J.C. O'Connell  wrote:

> thats a pretty good deal but it sucks when the kit lens costs nearly
> as much as the digital body

I was going to say that it sucks that a Canon FD mount adapter costs
nearly as much as the body. (The first one I saw at B&H was $179, but
then I found others for under $100.)

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