Re: PESO - Walkin' My Baby Back Home (new crop)
On 27 May 2012 02:55, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From the what the hell was I thinking? department. Here's the first one, posted earlier: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/walkin-my-baby-back-home.html I guess I thought the feet and crap in the background added environment or atmosphere or place or something. After having looked a bunch of times I realize they added clutter and useless crap. Here's the new (and I think improved) crop: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/walkin-my-baby-back-home-new-crop.html What do you think? Improvement? Hope you enjoy. Comments encouraged. cheers, frank Yep, definitely. It's decluttered. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Walkin' My Baby Back Home (new crop)
i like the concept, and I think the new crop is improved, although it still includes some distracting elements and less of the figures. An ideal solution might be to retain your original crop and clone out the annoying bits. That way you set the scene with the street and curb but have a clean presentation. A nice photo though. Paul On May 26, 2012, at 9:55 PM, frank theriault wrote: From the what the hell was I thinking? department. Here's the first one, posted earlier: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/walkin-my-baby-back-home.html I guess I thought the feet and crap in the background added environment or atmosphere or place or something. After having looked a bunch of times I realize they added clutter and useless crap. Here's the new (and I think improved) crop: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/walkin-my-baby-back-home-new-crop.html What do you think? Improvement? Hope you enjoy. Comments encouraged. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Walkin' My Baby Back Home
two toes up and (as if you didn't know) the third pair of people shoes stakes this one there for me. ann On 5/26/2012 12:51, frank theriault wrote: As yet another reminder that June PUG is looming (I've already submitted mine) I stole this title from the Nat King Cole song: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/walkin-my-baby-back-home.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
A Short Tale of Three 50s
http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/Compare50 A blackberry blossom in our back yard. A quick comparison of the FA 50/1.4, M 50/1.4, A 50/2.8 Macro. Shot was hand-held. 1/100 @ f9, just to hit close to the sweet spot of each lens. I know a lot of people are excited by the M, but that whole series has never given me much encouragement. This sample did not do poorly at all, but is clearly not as sharp as the FA A. But I must give the M credit for its color cast. It matches the FA and, imnsho, both better the A with its cool character. So the A might be better for resolving power, but not for color accuracy. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Walkin' My Baby Back Home (new crop)
Yup. I often find it hard to distinguish between clutter and context-establishing detail in my shots too, as you probably know! Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 9:55 PM Subject: PESO - Walkin' My Baby Back Home (new crop) From the what the hell was I thinking? department. Here's the first one, posted earlier: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/walkin-my-baby-back-home.html I guess I thought the feet and crap in the background added environment or atmosphere or place or something. After having looked a bunch of times I realize they added clutter and useless crap. Here's the new (and I think improved) crop: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/walkin-my-baby-back-home-new-crop.html What do you think? Improvement? Hope you enjoy. Comments encouraged. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: nanda devi/ milam glacier trek photos
On 5/25/2012 21:39, Subash wrote: thanks Ann, it was an amazing trek :). you are right, the photo is of the glacier's 'snout' but i wasn't making the point you thought i was. all that *is* solid ice, covered with a thin layer of soil so it all looks brown. ahhh still - would be intresting to see a photo from the same spot taken say, twenty years ago, fifty years ago, etc. about the snake fossil, i've just added the only other photo i took. hope that gives it some kind of scale: https://picasaweb.google.com/117979942681874882460/Nandadevi#5746649077613675042 thanks for looking. appreciate your comments... Ok - as suspected - it's metamorphic rock.. not fossil at all looks like schist to me... (pun thread threat) The surrounding rock regardless of scale is the tip off but the coins help.. as did your location. Thanks for the un-closeup. ann On Fri, 25 May 2012 19:12:12 -0400 Ann Sanfedeleann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Loved the tour -- I was glad to see the shots that were a bit more in the distance of the mountain - that worked better for me for scale. The portraits all very strong, but I particularly liked the one of the tiny figure at the base of the Glacier's terminal moraine. at least, I think that is what I'm looking at.. don't see any glacial ice - but I guess that was your point, no? The snake cries out for scale for me... looks like a metamorphic product - I'm bothered I can just blurt out exactly what is happening there - :-) what an wonderful trip that msut ahve been! ann On 5/24/2012 22:09, Subash wrote: On Wed, 23 May 2012 21:06:50 -0400 Stan Halpins...@stans-photography.info wrote: A very nice photo essay! thanks Stan. and everyone else who had a look. appreciate it :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
re: Post size limit
From: Jeffery Smith Are the rest of you getting your posts kicked back to you to if they exceed about 5 lines of text? I'm deleting the post that I'm responding to, but the posts are getting kicked back to me as being too large (over 10k). The size limit to me seems Twitter-sized, but I see other posts that are several screen long. Do these longer messages nood to be approved by the admins every time? Sent from my iPad Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, Louisiana USA I've never noticed anything like that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Post size limit
Never seen that here either. G On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 7:10 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Jeffery Smith Are the rest of you getting your posts kicked back to you to if they exceed about 5 lines of text? I'm deleting the post that I'm responding to, but the posts are getting kicked back to me as being too large (over 10k). The size limit to me seems Twitter-sized, but I see other posts that are several screen long. Do these longer messages nood to be approved by the admins every time? Sent from my iPad Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, Louisiana USA I've never noticed anything like that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Post size limit
Like an idiot, I had RTF format checked off, which did little more than increase the message size since I type in black and white without italics, boldface, etc. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Never seen that here either. G On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 7:10 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Jeffery Smith Are the rest of you getting your posts kicked back to you to if they exceed about 5 lines of text? I'm deleting the post that I'm responding to, but the posts are getting kicked back to me as being too large (over 10k). The size limit to me seems Twitter-sized, but I see other posts that are several screen long. Do these longer messages nood to be approved by the admins every time? Sent from my iPad Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, Louisiana USA I've never noticed anything like that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Post size limit
That was it. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 26, 2012, at 11:32 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Plain text only? No problems here on my laptop! Bob S. On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: Are the rest of you getting your posts kicked back to you to if they exceed about 5 lines of text? I'm deleting the post that I'm responding to, but the posts are getting kicked back to me as being too large (over 10k). The size limit to me seems Twitter-sized, but I see other posts that are several screen long. Do these longer messages nood to be approved by the admins every time? Sent from my iPad Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, Louisiana USA -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A Short Tale of Three 50s
My vote goes to Pentax FA 50/1.4. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 7:30 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/Compare50 A blackberry blossom in our back yard. A quick comparison of the FA 50/1.4, M 50/1.4, A 50/2.8 Macro. Shot was hand-held. 1/100 @ f9, just to hit close to the sweet spot of each lens. I know a lot of people are excited by the M, but that whole series has never given me much encouragement. This sample did not do poorly at all, but is clearly not as sharp as the FA A. But I must give the M credit for its color cast. It matches the FA and, imnsho, both better the A with its cool character. So the A might be better for resolving power, but not for color accuracy. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Putting weather sealing to the test
Not a good day to be a cow in parts of Nebraska and Kansas today. Hoping to catch some photogenic supercells today, and maybe a tornado closer to evening if the Force is With Us. In any event, I'll probably be making use of the weather sealing of the K-5 today, although something tells me that those seals won't be any match for baseball sized hail. Today looks like an active weather day in my neck of the woods. Not a good sign when the weather service is mentioning giant hail (as in baseball-sized or bigger) as they are for parts of KS NE. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Putting weather sealing to the test
The rubber, (in the most generic term), gaskets will hold up fine, the terminal velocity hard water will smash the camera body flat however. On 5/27/2012 1:31 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Not a good day to be a cow in parts of Nebraska and Kansas today. Hoping to catch some photogenic supercells today, and maybe a tornado closer to evening if the Force is With Us. In any event, I'll probably be making use of the weather sealing of the K-5 today, although something tells me that those seals won't be any match for baseball sized hail. Today looks like an active weather day in my neck of the woods. Not a good sign when the weather service is mentioning giant hail (as in baseball-sized or bigger) as they are for parts of KS NE. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
card FAIL?
Yesterday I was trying to catch a few shots of my guy in action at the state division track meet. I had my trusty k-5 plus 50-135 combo. I had just reformatted the sd card, and took some pics, just to chimp. So far, so good. The race started -- the one mile event -- and I shot off a burst as the runners came past me. Since they have to travel another 400 meters before they come around again, I took the opportunity to peek at what I got... only the previews weren't yet available. OK, I wait but the little red light stayed on... and wouldn't go off... and now here the runners come again (66 seconds later) crap, there they go, and still my camera is hung up. No shooting, no previews, just a little red light. I turn off the camera. Red light remains, and on the top lcd screen, the image remaining count still shows, approx 216 shots left. Then, I forget exactly what I did -- probably turned it off on, swore at it a few times, and cheered for my runner -- but in the end, memory card error on the back screen, and a remaining image count now at 0. And then the race was over. I've never had a memory card fail on me this way... it was traumatic! I think it's just the card -- I popped another one in, and there were no other problems. Does this behavior fit the profile of sd card failures you've known? How much worse do you think I made the situation with my frantic button-pushing? ;) Thanks, -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: card FAIL?
Cards do fail, very occasionally, but it's rare. Buy premium quality cards - Sandisk Extreme, Lexar pro, etc - for reduced incidence of failures. I've never had a card fail. G On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Yesterday I was trying to catch a few shots of my guy in action at the state division track meet. I had my trusty k-5 plus 50-135 combo. I had just reformatted the sd card, and took some pics, just to chimp. So far, so good. The race started -- the one mile event -- and I shot off a burst as the runners came past me. Since they have to travel another 400 meters before they come around again, I took the opportunity to peek at what I got... only the previews weren't yet available. OK, I wait but the little red light stayed on... and wouldn't go off... and now here the runners come again (66 seconds later) crap, there they go, and still my camera is hung up. No shooting, no previews, just a little red light. I turn off the camera. Red light remains, and on the top lcd screen, the image remaining count still shows, approx 216 shots left. Then, I forget exactly what I did -- probably turned it off on, swore at it a few times, and cheered for my runner -- but in the end, memory card error on the back screen, and a remaining image count now at 0. And then the race was over. I've never had a memory card fail on me this way... it was traumatic! I think it's just the card -- I popped another one in, and there were no other problems. Does this behavior fit the profile of sd card failures you've known? How much worse do you think I made the situation with my frantic button-pushing? ;) Thanks, -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: card FAIL?
On 5/27/2012 2:36 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Yesterday I was trying to catch a few shots of my guy in action at the state division track meet. I had my trusty k-5 plus 50-135 combo. I had just reformatted the sd card, and took some pics, just to chimp. So far, so good. The race started -- the one mile event -- and I shot off a burst as the runners came past me. Since they have to travel another 400 meters before they come around again, I took the opportunity to peek at what I got... only the previews weren't yet available. OK, I wait but the little red light stayed on... and wouldn't go off... and now here the runners come again (66 seconds later) crap, there they go, and still my camera is hung up. No shooting, no previews, just a little red light. I turn off the camera. Red light remains, and on the top lcd screen, the image remaining count still shows, approx 216 shots left. Then, I forget exactly what I did -- probably turned it off on, swore at it a few times, and cheered for my runner -- but in the end, memory card error on the back screen, and a remaining image count now at 0. And then the race was over. I've never had a memory card fail on me this way... it was traumatic! I think it's just the card -- I popped another one in, and there were no other problems. Does this behavior fit the profile of sd card failures you've known? How much worse do you think I made the situation with my frantic button-pushing? ;) Thanks, -c I've never had a card fail that way, I've had the case crack and the write protect tab fall out, (why the heck do we have a feature that first appeared on floppy disks, and wasn't such a good idea then still on a solid state memory device). It sounds like a reasonable error message. The camera cannot access the card, so of course the camera will report that there is space for 0 images. That doesn't rule out that the read/write device in the camera isn't defective and somehow damaged the card, but it seems much more likely that the card simply died. Like all electronics heat stress will eventually kill it. Sandisk claims a MTBF of 1,000,000 hours, I don't know what brand you use, I could find a number for Sandisk, but that's an arithmetic average, so a card could die at any time, it just has the probability of lasting about 114 years, (if I did the math correctly). -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: card FAIL?
For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... :/ -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 2:53 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/27/2012 2:36 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Yesterday I was trying to catch a few shots of my guy in action at the state division track meet. I had my trusty k-5 plus 50-135 combo. I had just reformatted the sd card, and took some pics, just to chimp. So far, so good. The race started -- the one mile event -- and I shot off a burst as the runners came past me. Since they have to travel another 400 meters before they come around again, I took the opportunity to peek at what I got... only the previews weren't yet available. OK, I wait but the little red light stayed on... and wouldn't go off... and now here the runners come again (66 seconds later) crap, there they go, and still my camera is hung up. No shooting, no previews, just a little red light. I turn off the camera. Red light remains, and on the top lcd screen, the image remaining count still shows, approx 216 shots left. Then, I forget exactly what I did -- probably turned it off on, swore at it a few times, and cheered for my runner -- but in the end, memory card error on the back screen, and a remaining image count now at 0. And then the race was over. I've never had a memory card fail on me this way... it was traumatic! I think it's just the card -- I popped another one in, and there were no other problems. Does this behavior fit the profile of sd card failures you've known? How much worse do you think I made the situation with my frantic button-pushing? ;) Thanks, -c I've never had a card fail that way, I've had the case crack and the write protect tab fall out, (why the heck do we have a feature that first appeared on floppy disks, and wasn't such a good idea then still on a solid state memory device). It sounds like a reasonable error message. The camera cannot access the card, so of course the camera will report that there is space for 0 images. That doesn't rule out that the read/write device in the camera isn't defective and somehow damaged the card, but it seems much more likely that the card simply died. Like all electronics heat stress will eventually kill it. Sandisk claims a MTBF of 1,000,000 hours, I don't know what brand you use, I could find a number for Sandisk, but that's an arithmetic average, so a card could die at any time, it just has the probability of lasting about 114 years, (if I did the math correctly). -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: card FAIL?
On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: card FAIL?
Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Sundowners
Phone snap of adventurous people outside my local this evening: http://www.web-options.com/CuttySarkPub.jpg B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: card FAIL?
All of the 2 gigs cards I bought for the K10 have failed, but over years of shooting and tens of thousands of read/right cycles. I won't mention the brand because I don't feel like the cards owed me anything - they simply wore out. They lasted through my K10 and K7 years and failed more recently in the K5. The failures were orderly - I'd pop in the camera and get an error message that the card was not formatted. A couple times they formatted Ok but then failed later, other times they refused to format at all. A sudden failure of what sounds like a fairly new card - like you had - is not something I have experienced. MCC On 5/27/2012 2:36 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Yesterday I was trying to catch a few shots of my guy in action at the state division track meet. I had my trusty k-5 plus 50-135 combo. I had just reformatted the sd card, and took some pics, just to chimp. So far, so good. The race started -- the one mile event -- and I shot off a burst as the runners came past me. Since they have to travel another 400 meters before they come around again, I took the opportunity to peek at what I got... only the previews weren't yet available. OK, I wait but the little red light stayed on... and wouldn't go off... and now here the runners come again (66 seconds later) crap, there they go, and still my camera is hung up. No shooting, no previews, just a little red light. I turn off the camera. Red light remains, and on the top lcd screen, the image remaining count still shows, approx 216 shots left. Then, I forget exactly what I did -- probably turned it off on, swore at it a few times, and cheered for my runner -- but in the end, memory card error on the back screen, and a remaining image count now at 0. And then the race was over. I've never had a memory card fail on me this way... it was traumatic! I think it's just the card -- I popped another one in, and there were no other problems. Does this behavior fit the profile of sd card failures you've known? How much worse do you think I made the situation with my frantic button-pushing? ;) Thanks, -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2012 - 055 - GDG
Finally had time and energy to do some photography yesterday on my walk in Guadalupe River Park. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/7282337352/lightbox or http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/7282337352/ Thanks for looking. Comments appreciated. Godfrey - http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A Short Tale of Three 50s
On 27/05/2012 14:30, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: http://www.brendemuehl.net/images/Compare50 A blackberry blossom in our back yard. A quick comparison of the FA 50/1.4, M 50/1.4, A 50/2.8 Macro. Shot was hand-held. 1/100 @ f9, just to hit close to the sweet spot of each lens. I know a lot of people are excited by the M, but that whole series has never given me much encouragement. This sample did not do poorly at all, but is clearly not as sharp as the FA A. But I must give the M credit for its color cast. It matches the FA and, imnsho, both better the A with its cool character. So the A might be better for resolving power, but not for color accuracy. It's quite difficult to judge but the first two seem to be focused on the nearer edge of the nearest petal. Only the last is focused on the stamens. -- No fixed Adobe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: card FAIL?
I've never had a card fail. I'm a Lexar shooter, mostly. Calumet photo makes an sd card that I use and no problems there either. Cheers, Christine/Chicago On May 27, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Yesterday I was trying to catch a few shots of my guy in action at the state division track meet. I had my trusty k-5 plus 50-135 combo. I had just reformatted the sd card, and took some pics, just to chimp. So far, so good. The race started -- the one mile event -- and I shot off a burst as the runners came past me. Since they have to travel another 400 meters before they come around again, I took the opportunity to peek at what I got... only the previews weren't yet available. OK, I wait but the little red light stayed on... and wouldn't go off... and now here the runners come again (66 seconds later) crap, there they go, and still my camera is hung up. No shooting, no previews, just a little red light. I turn off the camera. Red light remains, and on the top lcd screen, the image remaining count still shows, approx 216 shots left. Then, I forget exactly what I did -- probably turned it off on, swore at it a few times, and cheered for my runner -- but in the end, memory card error on the back screen, and a remaining image count now at 0. And then the race was over. I've never had a memory card fail on me this way... it was traumatic! I think it's just the card -- I popped another one in, and there were no other problems. Does this behavior fit the profile of sd card failures you've known? How much worse do you think I made the situation with my frantic button-pushing? ;) Thanks, -c -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sundowners
On 5/27/2012 5:24 PM, Bob W wrote: Phone snap of adventurous people outside my local this evening: http://www.web-options.com/CuttySarkPub.jpg B Looks like a fun time on a summer's eve... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: card FAIL?
For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric I've had good success with the Transcend cards. The only kind that's ever failed on me was a Lexar 8GB. It was one I bought at Target in an emergency so it cost twice what it should had I purchased it online. I started noticing weird things within weeks of purchase. I've had film bind/strip on the sprocket more times than a card failure. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: card FAIL?
I've had two Transcend cards fail almost right away. Transcends that didn't fail immediately seem okay. But I'm most fond of Sandisk Extreme. Never had one fail. The 16 gig card that I now use most often has about 20,000 exposures on it. I'm going to stick with Sandisk going forward. Paul On May 27, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: card FAIL?
I seem to always buy SanDisk, and not one of them will work in a Leica M8. I just ordered a Kingston in hopes that it will work. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've had two Transcend cards fail almost right away. Transcends that didn't fail immediately seem okay. But I'm most fond of Sandisk Extreme. Never had one fail. The 16 gig card that I now use most often has about 20,000 exposures on it. I'm going to stick with Sandisk going forward. Paul On May 27, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Today's Peace Rally
That's a really good set. Your technique and composition are excellent. On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: On May 21, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: As to the protesters, I only regret I don't have my old F-4B available to pay them a visit. Very cool. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA eew...@bellsouth.net What is man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, men would die from a great loneliness of spirit. - Chief Seattle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: card FAIL?
Hmmm. Sounds like a camera problem. On May 27, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I seem to always buy SanDisk, and not one of them will work in a Leica M8. I just ordered a Kingston in hopes that it will work. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've had two Transcend cards fail almost right away. Transcends that didn't fail immediately seem okay. But I'm most fond of Sandisk Extreme. Never had one fail. The 16 gig card that I now use most often has about 20,000 exposures on it. I'm going to stick with Sandisk going forward. Paul On May 27, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO a bit of Hollywood glam
Thanks, Dave! On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:45 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Great job on the light. But your model seems to be tense. Paul Thats because she has heard of the PDML.:-) Great job Bruce Dave On May 24, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Was introduced to a lovely lady who wanted to do a creative shoot. I suggested Hollywood glamour ala George Hurrell and she said yeah ... http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7262010996/lightbox/ This is the first of a few I'll be retouching. The goal was BW, but I couldn't resist keeping this one colour. The shoot took place yesterday in The Gallery Studio Cafe in New Toronto. There's a piano, which of course we made use of, and a nicely decorated bar with a big ol' espresso machine, which also made it into some shots. We basically had the run of the place. Dorothy enlisted two of her ex-colleagues (she was an on-air personality with a talk show on Rogers cable TV) for makeup and hair and they did a superb job. I have BTS shots of the two of them working on Dorothy simultaneously. I wanted to get the focussed-light with rapid fall-off look typical of George Hurrell's work, so I used the ring-light-in-a-softbox that I created especially for the shoot and tested on my wife last week. George used multiple big hotlights with fresnel lenses to get his look, so we clearly would only be able to approximate it but I think we didn't do too badly. He also spent hours dodging and burning to get his deep shadows and body contouring, so at least that part I'll be able to emulate accurately! :-) K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 39mm/f:8.0, 100 ISO, 125th sec. AF160 ringlight in 18 Westcott Apollo softbox on monopod, held above and in front of subject's face. AF540 in 42 silvered umbrella for fill, camera-left. AF540 with snoot for hair, well back camera-right. Cowboy Studios radio triggers. Lr and Ps for post and retouching. Comments welcome! -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO a bit of Hollywood glam
Okay, Paul, did that. Also lightened-up her hair and much ofthe whole left side of her face. I think that reduces that lazy eye illusion plus revealing her nice hair a lot more. Thanks for your critique and pointers, Paul! On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: You could probably release a bit of the tension in her face by smoothing out her brow above her left eye. Worth a try IMO. Paul On May 25, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: I'm sure you've seen Hurrell's work, if you've seen any bw shots of Hollywood stars. https://www.google.com/search?q=george+hurrelltbm=isch I agree her hair needs to be revealed more, and I need to brighten her eye as well, per Paul's suggestion, so I'm off to do some dodge'n'burn. :-) Thanks, Bob! On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce, I don't know George Hurrell's style at all, but I enjoyed the photo. For such a glamorous shot, I miss her luxurious hair...needs light! Regards, Bob S. On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Was introduced to a lovely lady who wanted to do a creative shoot. I suggested Hollywood glamour ala George Hurrell and she said yeah ... http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7262010996/lightbox/ This is the first of a few I'll be retouching. The goal was BW, but I couldn't resist keeping this one colour. The shoot took place yesterday in The Gallery Studio Cafe in New Toronto. There's a piano, which of course we made use of, and a nicely decorated bar with a big ol' espresso machine, which also made it into some shots. We basically had the run of the place. Dorothy enlisted two of her ex-colleagues (she was an on-air personality with a talk show on Rogers cable TV) for makeup and hair and they did a superb job. I have BTS shots of the two of them working on Dorothy simultaneously. I wanted to get the focussed-light with rapid fall-off look typical of George Hurrell's work, so I used the ring-light-in-a-softbox that I created especially for the shoot and tested on my wife last week. George used multiple big hotlights with fresnel lenses to get his look, so we clearly would only be able to approximate it but I think we didn't do too badly. He also spent hours dodging and burning to get his deep shadows and body contouring, so at least that part I'll be able to emulate accurately! :-) K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 39mm/f:8.0, 100 ISO, 125th sec. AF160 ringlight in 18 Westcott Apollo softbox on monopod, held above and in front of subject's face. AF540 in 42 silvered umbrella for fill, camera-left. AF540 with snoot for hair, well back camera-right. Cowboy Studios radio triggers. Lr and Ps for post and retouching. Comments welcome! -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT GESO - Fuji came through
Glad to hear that Fuji did the right thing and you're properly enabled. #4 is terrific! On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: OK, not really a resurrection. Fuji gave me a brand new X100, after sending mine in four times for service. All is forgiven, because the new one performs beautifully, and the exposure comp dial is tighter. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_05/12_05_resurrection/index.htm -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO a bit of Hollywood glam
You're welcome, Bruce. Your photo was excellent to begin with, so it's worth making it as perfect as possible. When it comes to fixing photos that are less than perfect, I have more experience than I care to admit to. Can we see the result? On May 27, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Okay, Paul, did that. Also lightened-up her hair and much ofthe whole left side of her face. I think that reduces that lazy eye illusion plus revealing her nice hair a lot more. Thanks for your critique and pointers, Paul! On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: You could probably release a bit of the tension in her face by smoothing out her brow above her left eye. Worth a try IMO. Paul On May 25, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: I'm sure you've seen Hurrell's work, if you've seen any bw shots of Hollywood stars. https://www.google.com/search?q=george+hurrelltbm=isch I agree her hair needs to be revealed more, and I need to brighten her eye as well, per Paul's suggestion, so I'm off to do some dodge'n'burn. :-) Thanks, Bob! On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce, I don't know George Hurrell's style at all, but I enjoyed the photo. For such a glamorous shot, I miss her luxurious hair...needs light! Regards, Bob S. On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Was introduced to a lovely lady who wanted to do a creative shoot. I suggested Hollywood glamour ala George Hurrell and she said yeah ... http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7262010996/lightbox/ This is the first of a few I'll be retouching. The goal was BW, but I couldn't resist keeping this one colour. The shoot took place yesterday in The Gallery Studio Cafe in New Toronto. There's a piano, which of course we made use of, and a nicely decorated bar with a big ol' espresso machine, which also made it into some shots. We basically had the run of the place. Dorothy enlisted two of her ex-colleagues (she was an on-air personality with a talk show on Rogers cable TV) for makeup and hair and they did a superb job. I have BTS shots of the two of them working on Dorothy simultaneously. I wanted to get the focussed-light with rapid fall-off look typical of George Hurrell's work, so I used the ring-light-in-a-softbox that I created especially for the shoot and tested on my wife last week. George used multiple big hotlights with fresnel lenses to get his look, so we clearly would only be able to approximate it but I think we didn't do too badly. He also spent hours dodging and burning to get his deep shadows and body contouring, so at least that part I'll be able to emulate accurately! :-) K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 39mm/f:8.0, 100 ISO, 125th sec. AF160 ringlight in 18 Westcott Apollo softbox on monopod, held above and in front of subject's face. AF540 in 42 silvered umbrella for fill, camera-left. AF540 with snoot for hair, well back camera-right. Cowboy Studios radio triggers. Lr and Ps for post and retouching. Comments welcome! -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO a bit of Hollywood glam
Absolutely! I replaced it on Flickr, so if you look at the same link as before ... http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7262010996/lightbox/ you'll see the revised one. On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: You're welcome, Bruce. Your photo was excellent to begin with, so it's worth making it as perfect as possible. When it comes to fixing photos that are less than perfect, I have more experience than I care to admit to. Can we see the result? On May 27, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Okay, Paul, did that. Also lightened-up her hair and much ofthe whole left side of her face. I think that reduces that lazy eye illusion plus revealing her nice hair a lot more. Thanks for your critique and pointers, Paul! On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: You could probably release a bit of the tension in her face by smoothing out her brow above her left eye. Worth a try IMO. Paul On May 25, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: I'm sure you've seen Hurrell's work, if you've seen any bw shots of Hollywood stars. https://www.google.com/search?q=george+hurrelltbm=isch I agree her hair needs to be revealed more, and I need to brighten her eye as well, per Paul's suggestion, so I'm off to do some dodge'n'burn. :-) Thanks, Bob! On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce, I don't know George Hurrell's style at all, but I enjoyed the photo. For such a glamorous shot, I miss her luxurious hair...needs light! Regards, Bob S. On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Was introduced to a lovely lady who wanted to do a creative shoot. I suggested Hollywood glamour ala George Hurrell and she said yeah ... http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7262010996/lightbox/ This is the first of a few I'll be retouching. The goal was BW, but I couldn't resist keeping this one colour. The shoot took place yesterday in The Gallery Studio Cafe in New Toronto. There's a piano, which of course we made use of, and a nicely decorated bar with a big ol' espresso machine, which also made it into some shots. We basically had the run of the place. Dorothy enlisted two of her ex-colleagues (she was an on-air personality with a talk show on Rogers cable TV) for makeup and hair and they did a superb job. I have BTS shots of the two of them working on Dorothy simultaneously. I wanted to get the focussed-light with rapid fall-off look typical of George Hurrell's work, so I used the ring-light-in-a-softbox that I created especially for the shoot and tested on my wife last week. George used multiple big hotlights with fresnel lenses to get his look, so we clearly would only be able to approximate it but I think we didn't do too badly. He also spent hours dodging and burning to get his deep shadows and body contouring, so at least that part I'll be able to emulate accurately! :-) K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 39mm/f:8.0, 100 ISO, 125th sec. AF160 ringlight in 18 Westcott Apollo softbox on monopod, held above and in front of subject's face. AF540 in 42 silvered umbrella for fill, camera-left. AF540 with snoot for hair, well back camera-right. Cowboy Studios radio triggers. Lr and Ps for post and retouching. Comments welcome! -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: card FAIL?
It is. My first M8 came non-functioning with a shutter fault message every time I tried to trip the shutter. It took two months to get Leica to return a phone call. I finally, through the LUG, got the email of the president of the US division of Leica, and he replaced the camera. It came non-functioning with a card error and Leica would not return my phone calls (you have to convince them that you are a professional photographer or they won't acknowledge you). I waited a year or so until the next firmware upgrade came out and that seemed to fix the problem, for about a month. It has been in a drawer until this week when I installed the latest firmware upgrade. Same problem. An error message of SD card is write protected!. When I bitched about it on the LUG (after someone referred to Leica's customer support as the best in the world), I was excoriated and ended up quitting the LUG. On a positive note, I bought a few Pentaxes and have lived happily ever after, though I lie awake some nights thinking about how much I spent on a camera that only shot about 8 frames. That's about $900 per frame, and they were just test shots. Think I can sell them on ebay? They are of my electric light meter on the side of my house, and I was using a Pentax 43 LE lens. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Hmmm. Sounds like a camera problem. On May 27, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I seem to always buy SanDisk, and not one of them will work in a Leica M8. I just ordered a Kingston in hopes that it will work. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've had two Transcend cards fail almost right away. Transcends that didn't fail immediately seem okay. But I'm most fond of Sandisk Extreme. Never had one fail. The 16 gig card that I now use most often has about 20,000 exposures on it. I'm going to stick with Sandisk going forward. Paul On May 27, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: card FAIL?
I final note…the guys on the LUG told me that I should have been using Transcend cards (which were the cheapest SD cards at BHPhoto at the time). I bought some. They didn't work in the Leica, nor did they work more than a few weeks in the Pentax. I think they are considered to be one-use cards, like Depends undergarments. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Hmmm. Sounds like a camera problem. On May 27, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I seem to always buy SanDisk, and not one of them will work in a Leica M8. I just ordered a Kingston in hopes that it will work. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've had two Transcend cards fail almost right away. Transcends that didn't fail immediately seem okay. But I'm most fond of Sandisk Extreme. Never had one fail. The 16 gig card that I now use most often has about 20,000 exposures on it. I'm going to stick with Sandisk going forward. Paul On May 27, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO a bit of Hollywood glam
Her hair looked a bit too dark before, now it looks kind of posterized. On 5/27/2012 9:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Absolutely! I replaced it on Flickr, so if you look at the same link as before ... http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7262010996/lightbox/ you'll see the revised one. On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: You're welcome, Bruce. Your photo was excellent to begin with, so it's worth making it as perfect as possible. When it comes to fixing photos that are less than perfect, I have more experience than I care to admit to. Can we see the result? On May 27, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Okay, Paul, did that. Also lightened-up her hair and much ofthe whole left side of her face. I think that reduces that lazy eye illusion plus revealing her nice hair a lot more. Thanks for your critique and pointers, Paul! On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: You could probably release a bit of the tension in her face by smoothing out her brow above her left eye. Worth a try IMO. Paul On May 25, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: I'm sure you've seen Hurrell's work, if you've seen any bw shots of Hollywood stars. https://www.google.com/search?q=george+hurrelltbm=isch I agree her hair needs to be revealed more, and I need to brighten her eye as well, per Paul's suggestion, so I'm off to do some dodge'n'burn. :-) Thanks, Bob! On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce, I don't know George Hurrell's style at all, but I enjoyed the photo. For such a glamorous shot, I miss her luxurious hair...needs light! Regards, Bob S. On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Was introduced to a lovely lady who wanted to do a creative shoot. I suggested Hollywood glamour ala George Hurrell and she said yeah ... http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7262010996/lightbox/ This is the first of a few I'll be retouching. The goal was BW, but I couldn't resist keeping this one colour. The shoot took place yesterday in The Gallery Studio Cafe in New Toronto. There's a piano, which of course we made use of, and a nicely decorated bar with a big ol' espresso machine, which also made it into some shots. We basically had the run of the place. Dorothy enlisted two of her ex-colleagues (she was an on-air personality with a talk show on Rogers cable TV) for makeup and hair and they did a superb job. I have BTS shots of the two of them working on Dorothy simultaneously. I wanted to get the focussed-light with rapid fall-off look typical of George Hurrell's work, so I used the ring-light-in-a-softbox that I created especially for the shoot and tested on my wife last week. George used multiple big hotlights with fresnel lenses to get his look, so we clearly would only be able to approximate it but I think we didn't do too badly. He also spent hours dodging and burning to get his deep shadows and body contouring, so at least that part I'll be able to emulate accurately! :-) K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 39mm/f:8.0, 100 ISO, 125th sec. AF160 ringlight in 18 Westcott Apollo softbox on monopod, held above and in front of subject's face. AF540 in 42 silvered umbrella for fill, camera-left. AF540 with snoot for hair, well back camera-right. Cowboy Studios radio triggers. Lr and Ps for post and retouching. Comments welcome! -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: card FAIL?
I've been using PNY Class 10 cards lately, I have a number of Sandisk class 4 cards for backup. However the only two cards I had problems with were Sandisk when their cases separated and I lost the write protect tabs. I used them in the *ist-Ds with a bit of tape over the gap. The tolerances in the K20D's card slot were too tight for me to get away with that. On 5/27/2012 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsench...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: card FAIL?
Maybe the camera's a snob. On 5/27/2012 9:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Hmmm. Sounds like a camera problem. On May 27, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I seem to always buy SanDisk, and not one of them will work in a Leica M8. I just ordered a Kingston in hopes that it will work. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've had two Transcend cards fail almost right away. Transcends that didn't fail immediately seem okay. But I'm most fond of Sandisk Extreme. Never had one fail. The 16 gig card that I now use most often has about 20,000 exposures on it. I'm going to stick with Sandisk going forward. Paul On May 27, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsench...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: card FAIL?
It occurred to me to sell it, and then ignore all of the phone calls of the shafted buyer. It wouldn't be unprecedented. I wish they would just do away with the write protect feature. It is just another thing to go wrong and require many fixes to defeat it. Regards, Jeffery _ Jeffery Smith Irish Channel, New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 9:38 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Maybe the camera's a snob. On 5/27/2012 9:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Hmmm. Sounds like a camera problem. On May 27, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I seem to always buy SanDisk, and not one of them will work in a Leica M8. I just ordered a Kingston in hopes that it will work. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've had two Transcend cards fail almost right away. Transcends that didn't fail immediately seem okay. But I'm most fond of Sandisk Extreme. Never had one fail. The 16 gig card that I now use most often has about 20,000 exposures on it. I'm going to stick with Sandisk going forward. Paul On May 27, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsench...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Walkin' My Baby Back Home (new crop)
Thanks Rick, and thanks to everyone else who commented on both this one and the original. Seems that the near consensus (Ann being the exception) prefers this one. Also, thanks to all who looked. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com Sent: May 27, 2012 5/27/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Walkin' My Baby Back Home (new crop) Yup. I often find it hard to distinguish between clutter and context-establishing detail in my shots too, as you probably know! Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 9:55 PM Subject: PESO - Walkin' My Baby Back Home (new crop) From the what the hell was I thinking? department. Here's the first one, posted earlier: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/walkin-my-baby-back-home.html I guess I thought the feet and crap in the background added environment or atmosphere or place or something. After having looked a bunch of times I realize they added clutter and useless crap. Here's the new (and I think improved) crop: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/walkin-my-baby-back-home-new-crop.html What do you think? Improvement? Hope you enjoy. Comments encouraged. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO a bit of Hollywood glam
I think you've solved the problem with the eye. The tension is still there. I might try to go further working on the brow, although I can see that it would be difficult to do it well. Not sure I could. The hair brightening may be a minus. Because some of the shadow have no detail, the result of lightening the hair overall is somewhat of a disconnect between the bright areas and the deep shadows. You may want to stick with the original lighting on the hair. Of course it's all subjective. As you well know, rendering is always a puzzle with numerous solutions and lots of ways of getting to them. Finding the right solution is the hard part. On May 27, 2012, at 9:40 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Absolutely! I replaced it on Flickr, so if you look at the same link as before ... http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7262010996/lightbox/ you'll see the revised one. On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: You're welcome, Bruce. Your photo was excellent to begin with, so it's worth making it as perfect as possible. When it comes to fixing photos that are less than perfect, I have more experience than I care to admit to. Can we see the result? On May 27, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Okay, Paul, did that. Also lightened-up her hair and much ofthe whole left side of her face. I think that reduces that lazy eye illusion plus revealing her nice hair a lot more. Thanks for your critique and pointers, Paul! On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: You could probably release a bit of the tension in her face by smoothing out her brow above her left eye. Worth a try IMO. Paul On May 25, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: I'm sure you've seen Hurrell's work, if you've seen any bw shots of Hollywood stars. https://www.google.com/search?q=george+hurrelltbm=isch I agree her hair needs to be revealed more, and I need to brighten her eye as well, per Paul's suggestion, so I'm off to do some dodge'n'burn. :-) Thanks, Bob! On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce, I don't know George Hurrell's style at all, but I enjoyed the photo. For such a glamorous shot, I miss her luxurious hair...needs light! Regards, Bob S. On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Was introduced to a lovely lady who wanted to do a creative shoot. I suggested Hollywood glamour ala George Hurrell and she said yeah ... http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/7262010996/lightbox/ This is the first of a few I'll be retouching. The goal was BW, but I couldn't resist keeping this one colour. The shoot took place yesterday in The Gallery Studio Cafe in New Toronto. There's a piano, which of course we made use of, and a nicely decorated bar with a big ol' espresso machine, which also made it into some shots. We basically had the run of the place. Dorothy enlisted two of her ex-colleagues (she was an on-air personality with a talk show on Rogers cable TV) for makeup and hair and they did a superb job. I have BTS shots of the two of them working on Dorothy simultaneously. I wanted to get the focussed-light with rapid fall-off look typical of George Hurrell's work, so I used the ring-light-in-a-softbox that I created especially for the shoot and tested on my wife last week. George used multiple big hotlights with fresnel lenses to get his look, so we clearly would only be able to approximate it but I think we didn't do too badly. He also spent hours dodging and burning to get his deep shadows and body contouring, so at least that part I'll be able to emulate accurately! :-) K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 39mm/f:8.0, 100 ISO, 125th sec. AF160 ringlight in 18 Westcott Apollo softbox on monopod, held above and in front of subject's face. AF540 in 42 silvered umbrella for fill, camera-left. AF540 with snoot for hair, well back camera-right. Cowboy Studios radio triggers. Lr and Ps for post and retouching. Comments welcome! -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
RE: Sundowners
Wonderful light and composition. Looks like a great way to spend a warm spring evening: a couple of pints then sit on the edge of a pier. Must try it sometime. ;-) Btw, what body of water? The Thames? Lovely photo. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Sent: May 27, 2012 5/27/12 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: Sundowners Phone snap of adventurous people outside my local this evening: http://www.web-options.com/CuttySarkPub.jpg B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO 2012 - 055 - GDG
As always, beautifully rendered. Interesting composition. Like it! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com Sent: May 27, 2012 5/27/12 To: PAW Picture-A-Week project p...@micapeak.com, SeePhoto Talk seeph...@micapeak.com, BAPhotoShooters BAPA baphotoshoot...@yahoogroups.com, PDML List PDML@pdml.net Subject: PESO 2012 - 055 - GDG Finally had time and energy to do some photography yesterday on my walk in Guadalupe River Park. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/7282337352/lightbox or http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/7282337352/ Thanks for looking. Comments appreciated. Godfrey - http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT GESO - Fuji came through
Agree on all counts. #4 is also my fave from a very strong set. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Sent: May 27, 2012 5/27/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT GESO - Fuji came through Glad to hear that Fuji did the right thing and you're properly enabled. #4 is terrific! On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: OK, not really a resurrection. Fuji gave me a brand new X100, after sending mine in four times for service. All is forgiven, because the new one performs beautifully, and the exposure comp dial is tighter. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_05/12_05_resurrection/index.htm -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Today's Peace Rally
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: As to the protesters, I only regret I don't have my old F-4B available to pay them a visit. Spoken like a true fuckhead. Regards William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: card FAIL?
Are you formatting the card with the camera? Jonathan [ma...@redwoodhorses.com] -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 6:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: card FAIL? Hmmm. Sounds like a camera problem. On May 27, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I seem to always buy SanDisk, and not one of them will work in a Leica M8. I just ordered a Kingston in hopes that it will work. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've had two Transcend cards fail almost right away. Transcends that didn't fail immediately seem okay. But I'm most fond of Sandisk Extreme. Never had one fail. The 16 gig card that I now use most often has about 20,000 exposures on it. I'm going to stick with Sandisk going forward. Paul On May 27, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5025 - Release Date: 05/27/12 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: card FAIL?
Can't. It refuses to format a card that it thinks is write protected. But it would read the firmware update. Jeffery Sent from my iPad Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, Louisiana USA On May 27, 2012, at 22:33, ma...@redwoodhorses.com wrote: Are you formatting the card with the camera? Jonathan [ma...@redwoodhorses.com] -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 6:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: card FAIL? Hmmm. Sounds like a camera problem. On May 27, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: I seem to always buy SanDisk, and not one of them will work in a Leica M8. I just ordered a Kingston in hopes that it will work. Regards, Jeffery __ Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA www.400tx.com On May 27, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I've had two Transcend cards fail almost right away. Transcends that didn't fail immediately seem okay. But I'm most fond of Sandisk Extreme. Never had one fail. The 16 gig card that I now use most often has about 20,000 exposures on it. I'm going to stick with Sandisk going forward. Paul On May 27, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Ah geez... noted! :) -c On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Eric Featherstone eric.featherst...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2012 21:37, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: For the record, it was a PNY Professional 8gb Class 10 card... Honestly, I've never paid too close attention to the cards, beyond size, and I do look for class 10s these days. I do have some SanDisk Extremes, too... and a couple of others I've picked up in drugstores in emergencies... Maybe it's time to pay attention... For what it's worth, the only cards I've had fail were PNY, and both of mine failed. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2176 / Virus Database: 2425/5025 - Release Date: 05/27/12 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: NHRA drag race shooting tips?
Hi all, First, please forgive my lack of participation in the list of late, in the event it caused any sleepless nights among this peculiar throng of photographers great and small. Life has just been busy, the weather inhospitable, and I have been too tired, lazy and mired in a photographic rut -- so, I haven't had any shots to share. That said, come the end of September I'll be going to the NHRA drag races in St. Louis. I've taken plenty of shots at drag races, but nothing like the ones that'll be happening that day. But, from what I understand, I'll be in a good place for taking photos -- assuming I have a clue what I'm doing, which is no small caveat. I know a few of the guys on the list have a lot of experience shooting motorsports, so I figured I'd ask for any pointers on how to get interesting shots. One of the main drawbacks of the drag races I've shot before is the sheer monotony of the photos given the limited number of vantage points available from which to shoot. Most of the shots I've taken in the past have been from the starting line, where I try to capture the action at take-off -- the warped tire walls, wheel stands, etc. I suspect the NHRA cars are going to be more of a challenge in that aspect, given that they'll be moving a whole lot faster off the line. So, any pointers on how to get decent images out of this opportunity will be greatly appreciated. Thanks for any input y'all might have! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO One more trillium
Thanks to all who looked and/or commented. This was a color I've never seen before, either. On 5/23/2012 3:25 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Very nice capture ! Great light. I'd never seen one that color. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com Subject: PESO One more trillium From a foray into the wilds of Minnesota a couple weeks ago... http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/images/IMGP1822.jpg Comments critiques welcome -p -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: NHRA drag race shooting tips?
Hi Walt, I'm admittedly not into drag racing, and would probably rely on shooting people pictures moments before the race rather than the cars. Or the audience. If the focus is on the cars, I might try a solid tripod and long shutter speeds. Probably not too helpful, but it't the thought that counts. :-) Jeffery Sent from my iPad Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, Louisiana USA On May 27, 2012, at 23:11, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, First, please forgive my lack of participation in the list of late, in the event it caused any sleepless nights among this peculiar throng of photographers great and small. Life has just been busy, the weather inhospitable, and I have been too tired, lazy and mired in a photographic rut -- so, I haven't had any shots to share. That said, come the end of September I'll be going to the NHRA drag races in St. Louis. I've taken plenty of shots at drag races, but nothing like the ones that'll be happening that day. But, from what I understand, I'll be in a good place for taking photos -- assuming I have a clue what I'm doing, which is no small caveat. I know a few of the guys on the list have a lot of experience shooting motorsports, so I figured I'd ask for any pointers on how to get interesting shots. One of the main drawbacks of the drag races I've shot before is the sheer monotony of the photos given the limited number of vantage points available from which to shoot. Most of the shots I've taken in the past have been from the starting line, where I try to capture the action at take-off -- the warped tire walls, wheel stands, etc. I suspect the NHRA cars are going to be more of a challenge in that aspect, given that they'll be moving a whole lot faster off the line. So, any pointers on how to get decent images out of this opportunity will be greatly appreciated. Thanks for any input y'all might have! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Hit Proof
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15803433 Comments are welcome Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
LX... got one
So... I got LX... Locally from friend of a friend, very good deal on a very good body... Thanks everyone here, who (off list) offered help! This was really helpful and really appreciated. No hard feelings that I did not got yours :) While working on getting LX, I got together a list of thing, which need to be checked. Found good checklist here and also added tips from PDML. Below is the full list, if anyone is interested... • LED’s not stable when ISO dial touched or wriggled • Mirror foam missing or deteriorating. Should be dealt with immediately before contamination and permanent damage to focusing screen occurs. • Hot shoe loose. • Mirror hesitates or does not release, normally on first one or two exposures after a period of non-use but can occur more often in severe cases. • Mirror stays in the up position in auto or manual speeds from 1/60 downwards. This fault although similar to sticking mirror fault is quite different and is known as “magnet warning” and can occur in bright lighting conditions only. • Red exposure compensation flag in viewfinder not working. • Viewfinder infinity focus inaccurate caused by worn or missing mirror rubber. • Condition of titanium foil shutter blinds. • Rapid battery drain or meter not switching off. Cause can be due to malajusted main switch or more seriously, defective electronic countdown circuit within main printed circuit board. • Rewind shaft not perpendicular and is angled slightly inwards. To check, pull the rewind knob upwards so that all of the rewind shaft is exposed. This fault is caused by impact and in many cases there could be no other visual evidence of impact although the rewind knob could also be distorted and ISO dial defective. • Operation of Multi function lever. • Finder not locking onto body due to defective lock lever on body. • Shutter release lock collar ineffective. • Shutter speeds from 1/60 downwards erratic or shutter stays open at slower speeds. This is normally due to a fault in the shutter speed control assembly situated immediately under the shutter speed dial. • Other “unusual” faults not listed are very rare and are, we find, generally the result of previous poor quality repair work carried out by other repairers. • Open the shutter in a darkened room, leave, and it will expose the film for many minutes or even hours and then shut down when the correct exposure is achieved. Test to be sure it does longer exposures - at least 15 minutes. The real time metering on mine still works - turn on the room lights and the shutter closes - it just does not work in fairly dim situations for really long exposures. Dmitry -- //DG LOC(NJ) //* -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LX... got one
No matter what the issue, Essex in NJ seems to make it right when locals say they can't. Jeffery Sent from my iPad Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, Louisiana USA On May 27, 2012, at 23:55, Dmitry Gromov grom...@gmail.com wrote: rubber. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LX... got one
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: No matter what the issue, Essex in NJ seems to make it right when locals say they can't. Are you talking about Essex Camera repair? Never used them, however remember them being advertised by Popular Photography... If not - could you please decipher your note for me? :) Dmitry -- //DG LOC(NJ) //* -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: LX... got one
You got it right. I sent a non-functioning Rolleicord and a non-functioning Konica III to them, and they came back to me in perfect working order. And the price was reasonable. I don't know if they do digital well, but they do wonders with mechanical. Jeffery Sent from my iPad Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, Louisiana USA On May 28, 2012, at 0:30, Dmitry Gromov grom...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: No matter what the issue, Essex in NJ seems to make it right when locals say they can't. Are you talking about Essex Camera repair? Never used them, however remember them being advertised by Popular Photography... If not - could you please decipher your note for me? :) Dmitry -- //DG LOC(NJ) //* -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
