Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread David Mann
On Sep 18, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would now love to hear from our photographer friends, a) for whom a
 filter is absolutely sacrilege, b) the Buddha's middle path takers who
 say they take the filter off for important events, and c) those who
 swear by the filter.

I use no filters.  Pentax lenses are tough as nails.  In my opinion a hood 
offers adequate protection.

Cheers,
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RE: PESO - Wonky Hyatt

2012-09-18 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Rick Womer
 
 The Atlanta Hyatt in which I stayed reflected in the office building
 opposite:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16464255
 

Turn on, tune in and drop out, man.

Wonky Hyatt is a spoonerism of White Honky...

Ow!
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RE: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Bipin Gupta
 
[...]
 to drop too. So bits of bird droppings broken up and propelled by the
 wind do hit your camera and the lens. I was not spared.
 Back at the hotel, I tried cleaning the filter with a blower brush and
 the Japanese high fiber lens cloth (no China stuff). Faint spots still
 remained on the Hoya 77mm Pro 1 Filter. Back home I tried a lens
 cleaner. No luck. I could still see very faint spotting on the filter.
 My daughter was quick to point out that bird droppings have strong
 chemicals that can stain a lens coating, perhaps damage it.
 I would now love to hear from our photographer friends, a) for whom a
 filter is absolutely sacrilege, b) the Buddha's middle path takers who
 say they take the filter off for important events, and c) those who
 swear by the filter.

If you didn't have a filter then that stuff would probably be on your lens.

I typically use a hood and a filter on all of my lenses. I make sure I buy
the best quality filters, usually B+W. 

Logically speaking there is some inevitable degradation of image quality,
but nobody has ever pointed any out to me, so as far as I'm concerned it's a
non-issue. 

B


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Re: PESO- I believe I can fly

2012-09-18 Thread Joseph McAllister
You see flying, I'm thinking a career in pole dancing.

But that 's just me… 

She does look like she is far away thinking peaceful thoughts of becoming a 
ballerina.


On Sep 17, 2012, at 11:04 , Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Superb. A wonderful moment and concept.
 
 Paul
 
 
 On Sep 17, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
 
 Been a while since I posted a PESO, and some of you have seen this if you're 
 following me elsewhere, but still, I think it's a pretty decent shot.
 
 http://dougbrewer.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/i-believe-i-can-fly/
 
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Re: Testing some K Mount lenses on the Q

2012-09-18 Thread Igor Roshchin

That's a very interesting set of studies and collection, Mark!
I enjoyed it.

I also noticed a new lens there: A* 3900mm f4
It must be the new secret, yet to be announced lens (announcement #8)
to match the yet-to-be-announced FF with aperture s[t]imulator (#9).
:-)

Cheers,

Igor


Mon Sep 17 22:30:45 EDT 2012
Mark C wrote:

I've been trying to find the right combination of K mount lenses to use 
with an adapter on  the Pentax Q, for macro and bird shots.

Samples form my tests so far, with actual pixel images and a comparison 
to the K5 and MZ-S for bird shots:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/testing-the-pentax-q-and-k-mount-lenses

Summary: Some lenses work well, others, not so much.

But then, how good do you ever have to be, really?

Mark


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Re: Testing some K Mount lenses on the Q

2012-09-18 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Mark,

On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 22:30:45 -0400 Mark C wrote:

I've been trying to find the right combination of K mount lenses to use with 
an adapter on  the Pentax Q, for macro and bird shots.

Samples form my tests so far, with actual pixel images and a comparison to the 
K5 and MZ-S for bird shots:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/testing-the-pentax-q-and-k-mount-lenses

Very nice summary, and good to see the big differences between lenses.

I got a K-to-Q adapter shortly after getting the Q itself, but have been using 
it mainly
on a copy-stand with the A* 200mm macro for extreme macro shots of electronic
parts including the inside of memory chips (and it works very well for that :-)

I still want to do some tests with the FA 50mm macro, which should be
pretty good on the Q for insects and similar small stuff, but unfortunately
the focusing ring of the FA is not very well suited for manual focus.

I also have a M 100mm f/4 macro, which DOES have excellent focussing
but it is a tad long perhaps ...

Summary: Some lenses work well, others, not so much.

But then, how good do you ever have to be, really?

Better never hurts, awaiting the new 06 zoom lens (80-250mm f/2.8 equivalent),  
which 
should be a nice complement to the standard 01 which is the only other Q lens I 
have.

Regards, JvW


PS:
The upcoming Pentax K-to-Q adapter seems pretty expensive,
I saw a price around 250 dollars mentioned somewhere ...


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Re: seemingly ignored advantage of 24x36

2012-09-18 Thread Boris Liberman
Larry, I should point out (in the most friendly and non-criticizing
manner) that the thinking about the focal length and the effective
angle of view or whatever has become irrelevant for me since I got the
little Ricoh camera. Although at the moment I have the only lens for
it (technically it is 33/2.5 1:2 macro with 9 lenses in 8 groups, one
being aspheric or something like this) which they consistently mark as
50 mm f2.5 macro. And such it is. I no longer think in terms of
equvalent focal lenght. And I think - it is the correct way to go.
Granted, the range of 24 to 90 mm focal lengths is where 99.99% of my
photo interests are but I kind of resolved to not think about EFL any
longer. It just confuses.

Now, I've just checked DPReview and it seems that Pentax won't be
showing any more new products this year. This is expected given the
recent merge with Ricoh. Still IMPVHO it is somewhat demotivating.

Hopefully what I am about to type next won't get me ostracized from
the PDML, but it seems I am about to start parting ways with my Pentax
gear. I don't have firm plans how to proceed, but I am seeing a FF
DSLR with the likes of 28-70/2.8 (or may be simply Sigma 24-60/2.8 in
the respective mount (*) ) and a modern flash for all things where I
have to shoot semi-officially, such as my daughter's class events and
a very select collection of lenses built around Leica M mount.

At the moment the electronic viewfinder for the Ricoh GXR is on its
way to me. If it proves to be as precise and easy for manual focusing
as it is said to be, I will buy an M-module and at least the likes of
12/5.6 and 40/1.4 Voigtlander lenses. Or may be I will look for 50 mm
lens, may be even second hand Leica 50/2.5 to complement my 33/2.5
(have to use actual F.L. here to allow proper comparison). The image
quality I am getting from my current set is superb and answers all my
needs (**). The compactness and lightness and ergonomic convenience
are second to none, therefore that's the route I'd be taking. I recon
that by collecting 2-3 Leica M mount lenses I would be able to change
cameras as the progress moves along. And it will be possible to switch
between cropped cameras (such as this Ricoh, or Fuji X system, or even
Sony NEX (***) ) and FF cameras when they would become affordable for
my vallet.

We can continue this talk off the list if you wish. I'd rather not
start a flame war in the midst of [strike]Olympic games[/strike]
Photokina.

(*) I haven't decided yet which mount it will be.
(**) I am practically cured from the illness that I had where I was
longing for the lenses such as 50/1.2 only in order to get the look of
the photos that I personally find pleasant. It can be done without
this kind of extremes.
(***) I handled yesterday a number of Sony NEX cameras (including
NEX-7) in one of the local stores at where I am now. The only one that
I could say was comfortable in my hand is NEX-7, but it is bigger and
heavier than my Ricoh. Solid piece of gear that NEX-7 is. Solid
indeed.

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 For me, the biggest advantage of getting a full frame body is one that I'm 
 surprised that I hardly every see mentioned.  It would effectively nearly 
 double the number of lenses that I have.  The vast majority of my lenses will 
 work on a 24x36 sensor.  My 31 will go from being a standard to a wide. Same 
 effective focal length as my 20 on APS, but a lot sharper.  My Sigma 20, 
 already a FF lens, will become a much wider lens, if a bit less sharp in the 
 corners.  My 50s will become standards again. I expect that my DA40 should 
 work as a wide standard.  My FA77 becomes a short portrait lens, rather than 
 a long portrait lens, and so forth.  My 18-55, 16-50 and 18-250 will no 
 longer work at the wide ends, which is fine, they can stay on the K-5.

 It seems that almost every conversation about some camera technology is 
 whether it is better than another technology.  For me, it is not a case of 
 which one is best, but what each one is best at.  I don't see full frame 
 versus APS as competing, but rather complimentary.  Granted, by cropping, one 
 can basically treat a full frame as an APS, but that's almost like saying, I 
 don't need both my full sized van and a honda, because I can always just 
 drive the van with just me in it.

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Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
I never use a filter, other than a polarizer or an ND when needed for 
photographic purposes. I do use hoods all the time and haven't damaged a front 
element in recent years. (Back in the seventies when I shot a lot of drag 
racing and cleaned the rubber off the front element with my shirt, I pretty 
much destroyed the front element of my Vivitar 200:-).
Paul
On Sep 18, 2012, at 1:12 AM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

 I'm in the 'C' camp, I use the best filters, aways a skylight  or UV on all 
 my lenses. I can't tell the difference with or without the filter. Its cheap 
 insurance IMO.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
 - Original Message - From: Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com
 Subject: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens
 
 
 Yes this is an oft repeated old stuff. But here is a version bottled
 anew. Since my retirement I have been travelling a lot. Last weekend
 we were in San Francisco. We love the wharf area and pier 39 plus the
 rides on the historic cable cars. A very windy and chilly day. Lots
 and lots of birds flying around for scraps of food. And eat means they
 have to drop too. So bits of bird droppings broken up and propelled by
 the wind do hit your camera and the lens. I was not spared.
 Back at the hotel, I tried cleaning the filter with a blower brush and
 the Japanese high fiber lens cloth (no China stuff). Faint spots still
 remained on the Hoya 77mm Pro 1 Filter. Back home I tried a lens
 cleaner. No luck. I could still see very faint spotting on the filter.
 My daughter was quick to point out that bird droppings have strong
 chemicals that can stain a lens coating, perhaps damage it.
 I would now love to hear from our photographer friends, a) for whom a
 filter is absolutely sacrilege, b) the Buddha's middle path takers who
 say they take the filter off for important events, and c) those who
 swear by the filter.
 Bipin.
 camp: San Mateo, CA and not from the far away enchanting land.
 
 
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Re: Sanicole Sunset Airhow 2012

2012-09-18 Thread Bruce Walker
I do indeed like these, Emil, especially those night shots with lights
and incendiary stuff and smoke. I've never seen an airshow held at
night.


On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Emil emyl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 Here is some of my shots from Sanicole Sunset Airshow held 14th Sept. 2012

 http://emylius.blogspot.hu/2012/09/20120914-15-sanicole-antwerpen.html

 Shots taken with Pentax equipment: K-5 body (mostly in TAv mode, iso
 100-6400) and 55-300 zoom lens or da* 4/300 (+ 1,7x tc when it was
 needed)

 I hope you like them :)

 Best regards,
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Re: Testing some K Mount lenses on the Q

2012-09-18 Thread Mark C
Thanks, Igor! I edited out the reference to the A* 3900...  I promised 
Pentax I'd keep that one a secret...


Mark

On 9/18/2012 4:55 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

That's a very interesting set of studies and collection, Mark!
I enjoyed it.

I also noticed a new lens there: A* 3900mm f4
It must be the new secret, yet to be announced lens (announcement #8)
to match the yet-to-be-announced FF with aperture s[t]imulator (#9).
:-)

Cheers,

Igor


Mon Sep 17 22:30:45 EDT 2012
Mark C wrote:

I've been trying to find the right combination of K mount lenses to use
with an adapter on  the Pentax Q, for macro and bird shots.

Samples form my tests so far, with actual pixel images and a comparison
to the K5 and MZ-S for bird shots:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/testing-the-pentax-q-and-k-mount-lenses

Summary: Some lenses work well, others, not so much.

But then, how good do you ever have to be, really?

Mark





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Re: Testing some K Mount lenses on the Q

2012-09-18 Thread Mark C

On 9/18/2012 12:15 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

Thanks for this terrific write-up and samples, Mark. A couple of
technique questions, if I may:
Perhaps a dumb question, but are you hand-holding your macros?
And on your super-telephoto shots, are you using the self-timer?


HI Darren -

Thanks for looking. All of the shots were on a tripod and most of the 
macros were with the self timer. The bird shots and the shots with the 
XR Rikenon were not taken with the self timer. I should also note that 
the K5 and film bird shots were not taken with the self timer either

Mark

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DA 17-70mm AS IS (without correction)

2012-09-18 Thread Roman Melihhov
http://roman.blakout.net/index.php?/category/66

^^^ thanks to pentax with its just another K-5 mockup. Who'd need just
another similar camera with very few modifications. I could keep my
money and finally buy improved DA 17-70mm year 2012 make. It focuses
lightning fast, snaps right to the point and I just love it. Shall
photograph charts to make geometry and tca correction lensfun entry but
I already so love it... Its better than my older make DA* 50-135mm that
obviously running faulty SDM circuitry and focus is AS IS. 'Nuff words,
just few snaps from the fields.

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PESO - Lunch

2012-09-18 Thread frank theriault
http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lunch.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread Christine Nielsen
I am usually diligent about using UV filters for everyday shooting.
As someone else mentioned, they are cheap insurance, and my camera
usually goes everywhere with me, often traveling in the bottom of a
handbag  subject to abuse.  I take them off in the studio, or in the
case of shooting backlit portraits, as I was the other day... I
grabbed the camera the next day to go to the bus stop for the first
day of school.  In our hurry to get out the door on that drizzly
morning, the business end of my 16-50 collided with the pointy metal
end of my daughter's umbrella.  Hard.  GAH!  I was horrified - no
filter!  But -- no problem.  Not a scratch.  The only real damage was
to my blood pressure...

I can see how bird droppings could be pretty caustic  wreck the
coatings on a lens or filter, though... I am at the beach quite often
 use filters there because of the salt  spray... now you've given me
another good reason...

:)
-c


On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes this is an oft repeated old stuff. But here is a version bottled
 anew. Since my retirement I have been travelling a lot. Last weekend
 we were in San Francisco. We love the wharf area and pier 39 plus the
 rides on the historic cable cars. A very windy and chilly day. Lots
 and lots of birds flying around for scraps of food. And eat means they
 have to drop too. So bits of bird droppings broken up and propelled by
 the wind do hit your camera and the lens. I was not spared.
 Back at the hotel, I tried cleaning the filter with a blower brush and
 the Japanese high fiber lens cloth (no China stuff). Faint spots still
 remained on the Hoya 77mm Pro 1 Filter. Back home I tried a lens
 cleaner. No luck. I could still see very faint spotting on the filter.
 My daughter was quick to point out that bird droppings have strong
 chemicals that can stain a lens coating, perhaps damage it.
 I would now love to hear from our photographer friends, a) for whom a
 filter is absolutely sacrilege, b) the Buddha's middle path takers who
 say they take the filter off for important events, and c) those who
 swear by the filter.
 Bipin.
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Re: OT: see the moon

2012-09-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I did indeed appreciate it, Larry;  thanks for the link!
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 There are some very cool photos here that I think others would appreciate:
 http://blog.moonzoo.org/2012/09/17/see-the-moon-as-never-before/

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Re: Sanicole Sunset Airhow 2012

2012-09-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nice action shots, there Emil.  I especially like the 3 parachutes in
formation and the 4 planes all at different angles.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Emil emyl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 Here is some of my shots from Sanicole Sunset Airshow held 14th Sept. 2012

 http://emylius.blogspot.hu/2012/09/20120914-15-sanicole-antwerpen.html

 Shots taken with Pentax equipment: K-5 body (mostly in TAv mode, iso
 100-6400) and 55-300 zoom lens or da* 4/300 (+ 1,7x tc when it was
 needed)

 I hope you like them :)

 Best regards,
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Re: A second Alaskan Coastal Image

2012-09-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I saw your pup and the PPG this morning, and gave it a thumbs up.  It
looks better each time I see it.  Is Misty Alaskan Morning also
yours?
Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:47 PM,  kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 After we left Juneau we cruised to the Tracy Arm and eventually to the
 Sawyer Glacier. This area is off limits to all until late in the summer due
 to the birthing of seal pups. We arrived after the prohibition to several
 hundred pups and adults basking on ice chunks in the blazing sun.
 Caught this pup eying us in the Zodiac.

 20D, 300 FA 4.5, 400 ISO
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16460400

 Comments appreciated.

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Re: PESO- I believe I can fly

2012-09-18 Thread Doug Brewer

On 9/17/12 8:27 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

I agree, Igor--it's lovely, and it's dark.

Almost all of Doug's shots are underexposed, in two ways:

1. His camera should be adjusted to admit more light;

2. More people should see the pics that result.

Rick


1. If I took more pictures, I'd not get much else done, and I barely get 
anything done as it is.


2. Editors/curators seem to disagree.

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OT: Humor For our Canadian Friends

2012-09-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://themetapicture.com/canadian-investigators/
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Re: OT: Humor For our Canadian Friends

2012-09-18 Thread David J Brooks
Thats aboot it

Dave

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 http://themetapicture.com/canadian-investigators/
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Re: PESO: Pounce !

2012-09-18 Thread wendy beard
How could I not smile :-)

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Re: Hey Cory! New Canon 6D has wi-fi!

2012-09-18 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:02 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Mark Roberts



 http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/09/17/Canon-announces-eos-6d-enthusiast-level-wi-fi-capable-full-frame-dslr

 It's full-frame (of course) and has built-in wi-fi connectivity.
 Built-in GPS, too.



 Built in GPS would be a nice to have feature.

It sure would. I can take a photo of my truck keys and when i lose
them know were they are.

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Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread David J Brooks
I use a filter on my VR 70-210 f2.8 and thats about it. I suppose in
hind sight i should have had one on my 18-70 to keep the dust out of
my wedding shots. However in my defense the lens has a tulip hood and
i don't like them., i think they let in to much extra light

Dave

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes this is an oft repeated old stuff. But here is a version bottled
 anew. Since my retirement I have been travelling a lot. Last weekend
 we were in San Francisco. We love the wharf area and pier 39 plus the
 rides on the historic cable cars. A very windy and chilly day. Lots
 and lots of birds flying around for scraps of food. And eat means they
 have to drop too. So bits of bird droppings broken up and propelled by
 the wind do hit your camera and the lens. I was not spared.
 Back at the hotel, I tried cleaning the filter with a blower brush and
 the Japanese high fiber lens cloth (no China stuff). Faint spots still
 remained on the Hoya 77mm Pro 1 Filter. Back home I tried a lens
 cleaner. No luck. I could still see very faint spotting on the filter.
 My daughter was quick to point out that bird droppings have strong
 chemicals that can stain a lens coating, perhaps damage it.
 I would now love to hear from our photographer friends, a) for whom a
 filter is absolutely sacrilege, b) the Buddha's middle path takers who
 say they take the filter off for important events, and c) those who
 swear by the filter.
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Re: PESO Danny blowing the bone

2012-09-18 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 17, 2012, at 10:10 PM, jn289 wrote:

 Larry, I like the following numbers 1808,1826,1837,1841 and 1865. These are 
 all good photographs..The first four I listed here are all nice tight clean 
 shots and the last one (1865) I like the guy looking over to the other 
 player..Joe

thank you Joe.

For what it is worth 1826 is a case of ashat that wasn't quite as sharp as i'd 
like that I used the clarity slider to give it more of a painting feel. 

I'm finding that even with a split prism screen, manually focusing a 200mm lens 
on an active musician from 15 feet away is a bit challenging.


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I've been getting a lot of favorable comments on this photo over on 
 facebook, so I thought I'd share it:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7986600061/in/set-72157631536973815
 
 The other one in the set that people seem to like is this one of Kim Nalley 
 with flowers in her hair:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7986598811/in/set-72157631536973815
 
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Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread Doug Brewer

On 9/18/12 12:45 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote:

Yes this is an oft repeated old stuff. But here is a version bottled
anew. Since my retirement I have been travelling a lot. Last weekend
we were in San Francisco. We love the wharf area and pier 39 plus the
rides on the historic cable cars. A very windy and chilly day. Lots
and lots of birds flying around for scraps of food. And eat means they
have to drop too. So bits of bird droppings broken up and propelled by
the wind do hit your camera and the lens. I was not spared.
Back at the hotel, I tried cleaning the filter with a blower brush and
the Japanese high fiber lens cloth (no China stuff). Faint spots still
remained on the Hoya 77mm Pro 1 Filter. Back home I tried a lens
cleaner. No luck. I could still see very faint spotting on the filter.
My daughter was quick to point out that bird droppings have strong
chemicals that can stain a lens coating, perhaps damage it.
I would now love to hear from our photographer friends, a) for whom a
filter is absolutely sacrilege, b) the Buddha's middle path takers who
say they take the filter off for important events, and c) those who
swear by the filter.
Bipin.
camp: San Mateo, CA and not from the far away enchanting land.



I'm solidly in the No Filter camp, but will be the first to admit that 
the way I treat my photos tools is shameful.


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Re: PESO- I believe I can fly

2012-09-18 Thread Paul Sorenson



On 9/17/2012 5:27 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:

On 9/17/12 5:21 PM, David J Brooks wrote:


Wonderful shot. If people are following you you should call the cops

Dave




http://dougbrewer.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/i-believe-i-can-fly/



what if it's the cops following me?


Walk slow, so they can catch up

Dave




Should be able to fend them off with a box of donuts...

Nice shot, BTW, although a little dark on my monitor.  (Whose 
calibration need to be checked)


-p





Thanks, Dave. Also thanks to Paul, Bruce, Igor, and Ken and everyone who
looked.


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Re: PESO- I believe I can fly

2012-09-18 Thread Ann Sanfedele

well my monitor's brightness is at 23% and it doesnt look too dark to me

Love the shot... I think the house in the background would be 
distracting if you could see detail there, and the light on the little

gal looks just right.

ann

On 9/18/2012 10:54, Paul Sorenson wrote:



On 9/17/2012 5:27 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:

On 9/17/12 5:21 PM, David J Brooks wrote:


Wonderful shot. If people are following you you should call the cops

Dave




http://dougbrewer.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/i-believe-i-can-fly/



what if it's the cops following me?


Walk slow, so they can catch up

Dave




Should be able to fend them off with a box of donuts...

Nice shot, BTW, although a little dark on my monitor.  (Whose
calibration need to be checked)

-p





Thanks, Dave. Also thanks to Paul, Bruce, Igor, and Ken and everyone who
looked.


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Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread George Sinos
I don't use a filter unless I'll be shooting in unusually dusty, nasty
or windy conditions.  That's not really to protect the lens.  I find
it's easier to clean the filter than to get dust out of the crevices
of a deep-set front element.

I know I've probably told this story before.  Back when public smoking
was more common the camera reps would demonstrate the robustness of
lens coatings by snuffing out a cigarette on the front element.

gs

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On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
 On 9/18/12 12:45 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote:

 Yes this is an oft repeated old stuff. But here is a version bottled
 anew. Since my retirement I have been travelling a lot. Last weekend
 we were in San Francisco. We love the wharf area and pier 39 plus the
 rides on the historic cable cars. A very windy and chilly day. Lots
 and lots of birds flying around for scraps of food. And eat means they
 have to drop too. So bits of bird droppings broken up and propelled by
 the wind do hit your camera and the lens. I was not spared.
 Back at the hotel, I tried cleaning the filter with a blower brush and
 the Japanese high fiber lens cloth (no China stuff). Faint spots still
 remained on the Hoya 77mm Pro 1 Filter. Back home I tried a lens
 cleaner. No luck. I could still see very faint spotting on the filter.
 My daughter was quick to point out that bird droppings have strong
 chemicals that can stain a lens coating, perhaps damage it.
 I would now love to hear from our photographer friends, a) for whom a
 filter is absolutely sacrilege, b) the Buddha's middle path takers who
 say they take the filter off for important events, and c) those who
 swear by the filter.
 Bipin.
 camp: San Mateo, CA and not from the far away enchanting land.


 I'm solidly in the No Filter camp, but will be the first to admit that the
 way I treat my photos tools is shameful.


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Re: Hey Cory! New Canon 6D has wi-fi!

2012-09-18 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 17, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

 This blog post does a thumbnail spec comparison between the 6D and Nikon D600
 http://www.photographyblog.com/news/canon_6d_vs_nikon_d600_-_key_differences/

Over the last weekend, and especially since I started looking at my photos, 
I've been thinking about what features would be important to me.

As to GPS, there are times that it would be very nice to have it in the camera. 
 Although I'd much prefer that the astrotracer menu didn't suck.
The astrotracer feature is a brilliant hack, but it is a huge pain in the ass 
to use.  A friend of mine just posted on facebook how cool astrotracer looks.  
I commented that I really like it, and she asked if she could borrow mine.  I 
pointed out that not only will it not work with her canon, it is impossible for 
it to work on her canon.

 
 One thing that jumps out at me is the same -3EV to 18EV spec for AF
 Sensitivity. Identical (if memory serves) to the specs for the new
 Pentax K-5ii and K-5iis.

I would love to have the K-5 focus better in low light.  I need for the 
autofocus area to be more precise.  I lost a lot of photos because of either 
poor focus, or because the camera focused on something that I thought was way 
out of the focus selection area.

 
 But on the other hand, the number of AF points and sensors on the
 Nikon sort of put the 6D to shame. I also would hate that the 6D has
 no pop-up flash. Sure you aren't going to do serious photography
 with the pop-up flash, but what a paint to have to put on your big
 flash to do anything that couldn't be achieve with available light.

I actually used my pop-up flash a couple of times this weekend for fill.  And, 
frankly, had better luck with it than I did with the AF540.

 
 ISO is two stops better on the Canon. I think we are seeing
 philosophies of What is Important starting to diverge between
 manufacturers.

It will be interesting to see how the new cameras rate on DxOmark.


 
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PESO - iAudience

2012-09-18 Thread Bruce Walker
One of the sidewalk troubadours at Shop The Shore last Saturday ...

http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8000110049/in/photostream/lightbox/

K100D Super, DA 18-55 @ 43mm/f:14, 1/1000th sec, ISO 1600
Lr 4.1, Silver Efex Pro 2.0

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Re: OT: Humor For our Canadian Friends

2012-09-18 Thread Walt
The thing is, it's always sound more like a boat to my ear. But, then, 
I speak Kentuckese.


On 9/18/2012 8:41 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Thats aboot it

Dave

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

http://themetapicture.com/canadian-investigators/
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Re: Sanicole Sunset Airhow 2012

2012-09-18 Thread Joseph McAllister

Respect.





I have always had a hard enough time getting in focus shots of jets at air 
shows during the day. Here you are getting sharp images at dusk and night that 
are as exciting as I've ever seen. 





Chops.


On Sep 18, 2012, at 03:09 , Emil wrote:

 Here is some of my shots from Sanicole Sunset Airshow held 14th Sept. 2012
 
 http://emylius.blogspot.hu/2012/09/20120914-15-sanicole-antwerpen.html
 
 Shots taken with Pentax equipment: K-5 body (mostly in TAv mode, iso
 100-6400) and 55-300 zoom lens or da* 4/300 (+ 1,7x tc when it was
 needed)
 
 I hope you like them :)
 
 Best regards,
 Emil



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Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread Larry Colen
I tend to use a filter except for when I need every last bit of performance.  
For the vast majority of my shots, it won't make any visible difference. I 
didn't have one on my 16-50, and then I noticed a small scratch on the edge of 
the front element.  The 80-200 came with a UV filter of the right size, so it's 
now on the $1500 lens rather than the$150 lens.

On Sep 17, 2012, at 9:45 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote:

 Yes this is an oft repeated old stuff. But here is a version bottled
 anew. Since my retirement I have been travelling a lot. Last weekend
 we were in San Francisco. We love the wharf area and pier 39 plus the
 rides on the historic cable cars. A very windy and chilly day. Lots
 and lots of birds flying around for scraps of food. And eat means they
 have to drop too. So bits of bird droppings broken up and propelled by
 the wind do hit your camera and the lens. I was not spared.
 Back at the hotel, I tried cleaning the filter with a blower brush and
 the Japanese high fiber lens cloth (no China stuff). Faint spots still
 remained on the Hoya 77mm Pro 1 Filter. Back home I tried a lens
 cleaner. No luck. I could still see very faint spotting on the filter.
 My daughter was quick to point out that bird droppings have strong
 chemicals that can stain a lens coating, perhaps damage it.
 I would now love to hear from our photographer friends, a) for whom a
 filter is absolutely sacrilege, b) the Buddha's middle path takers who
 say they take the filter off for important events, and c) those who
 swear by the filter.
 Bipin.
 camp: San Mateo, CA and not from the far away enchanting land.
 
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Re: Geso The rest of the French Church photos

2012-09-18 Thread Don Guthrie
Hey Thanks Frank, I have driven by the church often but when I saw the 
clouds that AM I knew it was the day to photograph.





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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 23:08:22 + (UTC)
From:knarftheria...@gmail.com  knarftheria...@gmail.com
To: \Pentax-Discuss Mail List\pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Geso The rest of the French Church photos
Message-ID:

590413694.201065.1347923311785.javamail.se...@ap7.p2.fra.samsungsocialhub.net

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Also late commenting but this is a wonderful set. The bw photos in particular 
are stunning - those clouds!

cheers,
frank

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Don Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com
Sent: September 17, 2012 9/17/12
To:pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Geso The rest of the French Church photos

Thanks Rick, I was every bit as happy with the color versions as the BW
I just happened to be on BW kick at the moment. You are right that
contrast gets lost in the BW.



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Re: PESO- I believe I can fly

2012-09-18 Thread John Sessoms

From: Paul Sorenson


On 9/17/2012 5:27 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:

On 9/17/12 5:21 PM, David J Brooks wrote:


Wonderful shot. If people are following you you should call the cops

Dave




http://dougbrewer.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/i-believe-i-can-fly/



what if it's the cops following me?


Walk slow, so they can catch up

Dave




Should be able to fend them off with a box of donuts...

Nice shot, BTW, although a little dark on my monitor.  (Whose
calibration need to be checked)

-p


Never, EVER make doughnut jokes to a cop. They have NO sense of humor 
whatsoever.


Trust me on this one.

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Re: PDML Digest, Vol 77, Issue 155

2012-09-18 Thread Don Guthrie

Interesting effect. Really a photo of bent light.



pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 8
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:47:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com
To: Pentax Listpdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Wonky Hyatt
Message-ID:
1347929275.8839.yahoomail...@web121806.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

The Atlanta Hyatt in which I stayed reflected in the office building opposite:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16464255

(K-5, DA 50-200)

Comments always appreciated.

Rick



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Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I use filters when they are appropriate for the conditions I'm working
in and when I need them to modify the light entering the lens.

I nearly always have a rigid lens hood fitted to my lenses. The
exceptions are for when I'm using cameras for which a lens hood is too
irritating to deal with (like the X2) or when the lens hood gets in
the way of something (like the internal flash on most compact
cameras). A rigid lens hood serves a dual purpose in protecting the
lens as well as reducing flare.

When not in use, I put a caps on my lenses to protect them.

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Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread Doug Brewer

On 9/18/12 12:40 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I use filters when they are appropriate for the conditions I'm working
in and when I need them to modify the light entering the lens.

I nearly always have a rigid lens hood fitted to my lenses. The
exceptions are for when I'm using cameras for which a lens hood is too
irritating to deal with (like the X2) or when the lens hood gets in
the way of something (like the internal flash on most compact
cameras). A rigid lens hood serves a dual purpose in protecting the
lens as well as reducing flare.

When not in use, I put a caps on my lenses to protect them.



yes, I should mention that I almost always use a hood.

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Re: PESO- I believe I can fly

2012-09-18 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Sep 18, 2012, at 09:35 , John Sessoms wrote:

 From: Paul Sorenson
 
 On 9/17/2012 5:27 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
 On 9/17/12 5:21 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
 
 Wonderful shot. If people are following you you should call the cops
 
 Dave
 
 
 http://dougbrewer.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/i-believe-i-can-fly/
 
 
 what if it's the cops following me?
 
 Walk slow, so they can catch up
 
 Dave
 
 
 Should be able to fend them off with a box of donuts...
 
 Nice shot, BTW, although a little dark on my monitor.  (Whose
 calibration need to be checked)
 
 -p
 
 Never, EVER make doughnut jokes to a cop. They have NO sense of humor 
 whatsoever.
 
 Trust me on this one.

Actually, they do. When out of sight in such a circumstance, they would be 
busting out laughing at how frightened you became under their glare stare, then 
have another doughnut.

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Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bipin,
No filters for the past 25 years, and luckily no problems.
Rigid lens hoods all the time.
I might re-think this with the prices of lenses like the DA 60-250,
but probably not...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:45 PM, Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes this is an oft repeated old stuff. But here is a version bottled
 anew. Since my retirement I have been travelling a lot. Last weekend
 we were in San Francisco. We love the wharf area and pier 39 plus the
 rides on the historic cable cars. A very windy and chilly day. Lots
 and lots of birds flying around for scraps of food. And eat means they
 have to drop too. So bits of bird droppings broken up and propelled by
 the wind do hit your camera and the lens. I was not spared.
 Back at the hotel, I tried cleaning the filter with a blower brush and
 the Japanese high fiber lens cloth (no China stuff). Faint spots still
 remained on the Hoya 77mm Pro 1 Filter. Back home I tried a lens
 cleaner. No luck. I could still see very faint spotting on the filter.
 My daughter was quick to point out that bird droppings have strong
 chemicals that can stain a lens coating, perhaps damage it.
 I would now love to hear from our photographer friends, a) for whom a
 filter is absolutely sacrilege, b) the Buddha's middle path takers who
 say they take the filter off for important events, and c) those who
 swear by the filter.
 Bipin.
 camp: San Mateo, CA and not from the far away enchanting land.

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Re: Hey Cory! New Canon 6D has wi-fi!

2012-09-18 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen


On Sep 17, 2012, at 5:37 PM, Darren Addy wrote:


This blog post does a thumbnail spec comparison between the 6D and Nikon D600
http://www.photographyblog.com/news/canon_6d_vs_nikon_d600_-_key_differences/


Over the last weekend, and especially since I started looking at my
photos, I've been thinking about what features would be important to me.

As to GPS, there are times that it would be very nice to have it in the
camera. Although I'd much prefer that the astrotracer menu didn't suck.
The astrotracer feature is a brilliant hack, but it is a huge pain in
the ass to use. A friend of mine just posted on facebook how cool
astrotracer looks. I commented that I really like it, and she asked if
she could borrow mine. I pointed out that not only will it not work with
her canon, it is impossible for it to work on her canon.



There are occasions when I would like to remember exactly where I was 
when I made a photograph.


So far, if I *do* want the location for a photo I can usually find it 
with Google maps  add the coordinates to the key words using Adobe Bridge.


If it location was automagically in the EXIF that would be cool, but I 
haven't found GPS to always be that reliable. My hand-held unit, an 
early generation Garmin Rino 120, is subject to terrain interference a 
lot. Plus, it takes a long time to acquire enough satellites.


I'm wondering just how robust an in camera unit would actually be?

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On wi-fi, flashes, batteries etc.

2012-09-18 Thread Larry Colen
I think that the vast majority of problems that I have with my flash have to do 
with the physical connection between the camera and the flash.

If the camera bodies and flashes were both equipped with wifi it would open a 
tremendous number of opportunities.  Of course, the right way to do this would 
be a communications standard so that things would work across brands.  

This would also have an advantage of wifi tethering and control of both bodies 
and flashes.  Being able to control everything from one laptop.

I'd also love to be able to use the same battery in my flash as my K-5.  I'd do 
it as standard battery format, bigger than any of the ones in the cameras, 
that would fit in all grips and flashes.  It would also be possible to make an 
adapter so you could use the K-5 battery, or the K20, K-foo, or whatever new 
battery was developed.  Of course an extended life battery that just fit in 
grips and flashes would also be nice.  

Unfortunately, Pentax hasn't hired me to design and develop new products and 
features, so I don't see these things coming in the near future.

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Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread Rick Womer
I'm solidly in the filter camp, because

1. I've had several scratched and broken filters that otherwise would have been 
scratched and broken lenses;

2. I try not to agree with Doug;

3. Filtered lenses are less likely to cause sensor cancer.

Rick

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Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

I'm solidly in the No Filter camp, but will be the first to admit that the 
way I treat my photos tools is shameful.

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Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread steve harley

on 2012-09-17 22:45 Bipin Gupta wrote

I would now love to hear from our photographer friends, a) for whom a
filter is absolutely sacrilege, b) the Buddha's middle path takers who
say they take the filter off for important events, and c) those who
swear by the filter.


on my better lenses i use good filters (i tried Marumi but they were hard to 
clean; now using BW double-coated from 2filter.com); on my cheap lenses i 
use whatever's around or none; i also use hoods to manage flare and protect 
against bumps, but the filters handle grit, spray and dust; i don't see filters 
as a major obstacle to getting good shots


that said, my dad, who was a far more accomplished photographer than i am, 
never used a filter or a hood and regularly wiped his lens with his shirt, or 
even his thumb




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Re: Sanicole Sunset Airhow 2012

2012-09-18 Thread Stan Halpin
Very nice set, well done! I particularly like #49, but those later in the 
evening are quite impressive.
And the website loads quickly and advances nicely from image to image. I cannot 
say the same for my own photo blog on Posterous; it may be time for me to 
consider switching.

stan

 
 On Sep 18, 2012, at 03:09 , Emil wrote:
 
 Here is some of my shots from Sanicole Sunset Airshow held 14th Sept. 2012
 
 http://emylius.blogspot.hu/2012/09/20120914-15-sanicole-antwerpen.html
 
 Shots taken with Pentax equipment: K-5 body (mostly in TAv mode, iso
 100-6400) and 55-300 zoom lens or da* 4/300 (+ 1,7x tc when it was
 needed)
 
 I hope you like them :)
 
 Best regards,
 Emil
 


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Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread Doug Brewer

On 9/18/12 1:26 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

I'm solidly in the filter camp, because

1. I've had several scratched and broken filters that otherwise would have been 
scratched and broken lenses;


Clumsy much?



2. I try not to agree with Doug;


Always a good plan.




3. Filtered lenses are less likely to cause sensor cancer.


Can't you cite your source on this?



Rick


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RE: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Ive never been much of a filter user, lucky to have not had any
incidents where a filter would have made a difference.

-
J.C.O'Connell
hifis...@gate.net
-

-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Doug
Brewer
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:35 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

On 9/18/12 1:26 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
 I'm solidly in the filter camp, because

 1. I've had several scratched and broken filters that otherwise would have
been scratched and broken lenses;

Clumsy much?


 2. I try not to agree with Doug;

Always a good plan.



 3. Filtered lenses are less likely to cause sensor cancer.

Can't you cite your source on this?


 Rick

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RE: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread J.C. O'Connell
one advantage of having a filter is it prevents dinging
the filter threads of the lens by accident. One can install
empty filters (no glass, just the ring) to do that.

-
J.C.O'Connell
hifis...@gate.net
-

-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Doug
Brewer
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:35 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

On 9/18/12 1:26 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
 I'm solidly in the filter camp, because

 1. I've had several scratched and broken filters that otherwise would have
been scratched and broken lenses;

Clumsy much?


 2. I try not to agree with Doug;

Always a good plan.



 3. Filtered lenses are less likely to cause sensor cancer.

Can't you cite your source on this?


 Rick

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Re: PESO: Pounce !

2012-09-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Wendy.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:44 AM, wendy beard pointyp...@gmail.com wrote:
 How could I not smile :-)

 On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 My dog loves to play with a tray of Ice I put out for him by the pool:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16464008

 Dan Matyola
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Re: Hey Cory! New Canon 6D has wi-fi!

2012-09-18 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:54:41PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
 
 I'm wondering just how robust an in camera [GPS] unit would actually be?

At a guess, I'd say it would be comparable to those found in smartphones.

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Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread Walt

On 9/18/2012 9:54 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:

On 9/18/12 12:45 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote:

Yes this is an oft repeated old stuff. But here is a version bottled
anew. Since my retirement I have been travelling a lot. Last weekend
we were in San Francisco. We love the wharf area and pier 39 plus the
rides on the historic cable cars. A very windy and chilly day. Lots
and lots of birds flying around for scraps of food. And eat means they
have to drop too. So bits of bird droppings broken up and propelled by
the wind do hit your camera and the lens. I was not spared.
Back at the hotel, I tried cleaning the filter with a blower brush and
the Japanese high fiber lens cloth (no China stuff). Faint spots still
remained on the Hoya 77mm Pro 1 Filter. Back home I tried a lens
cleaner. No luck. I could still see very faint spotting on the filter.
My daughter was quick to point out that bird droppings have strong
chemicals that can stain a lens coating, perhaps damage it.
I would now love to hear from our photographer friends, a) for whom a
filter is absolutely sacrilege, b) the Buddha's middle path takers who
say they take the filter off for important events, and c) those who
swear by the filter.
Bipin.
camp: San Mateo, CA and not from the far away enchanting land.



I'm solidly in the No Filter camp, but will be the first to admit 
that the way I treat my photos tools is shameful.


I never use them, either. When I damage a lens, I don't screw around 
with nettling little issues like the front element. I turn them into 
paperweights.


-- Walt

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Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread Tom C
 From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net

 I never use a filter, other than a polarizer or an ND when needed for 
 photographic purposes. I do use hoods all the time and haven't
 damaged a front element in recent years.

Ditto on that. ND and polarizers are the only filters I use.

While degradation from a filter may be minimal, or virtually
undetectable, nevertheless I have a problem with keeping a typically
$125 or less filter on the front of a lens that costs many times more.

I've taken to only buying BW filters for my circular polarizers.

Tom C.

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Re: Hey Cory! New Canon 6D has wi-fi!

2012-09-18 Thread Toralf Lund

On 9/18/12 20:15, John Francis wrote:

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:54:41PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:

I'm wondering just how robust an in camera [GPS] unit would actually be?

At a guess, I'd say it would be comparable to those found in smartphones.
Another question is what the battery consumption would be like. My 
smartphone seems to run out of power a lot faster with GPS enabled...


- Toralf


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RE: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 steve harley
 
 on 2012-09-17 22:45 Bipin Gupta wrote
  I would now love to hear from our photographer friends, a) for whom a
  filter is absolutely sacrilege, b) the Buddha's middle path takers
 who
  say they take the filter off for important events, and c) those who
  swear by the filter.
 
 on my better lenses i use good filters (i tried Marumi but they were
 hard to clean; now using BW double-coated from 2filter.com); on my
 cheap lenses i use whatever's around or none; i also use hoods to
 manage flare and protect against bumps, but the filters handle grit,
 spray and dust; i don't see filters as a major obstacle to getting good
 shots
 
 that said, my dad, who was a far more accomplished photographer than i
 am, never used a filter or a hood and regularly wiped his lens with his
 shirt, or even his thumb
 

they're fine, unless your Dad wore rock shirts and his thumb was covered in
birdshit. 

B


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RE: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 George Sinos
 
 I know I've probably told this story before.  Back when public smoking
 was more common the camera reps would demonstrate the robustness of
 lens coatings by snuffing out a cigarette on the front element.
 

that doesn't really demonstrate anything worth demonstrating - it's just hot
ash.

B


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RE: PESO - Lunch

2012-09-18 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 frank theriault
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lunch.html
 

you ate a butterfly? I thought you were Vegan!

B


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Re: Hey Cory! New Canon 6D has wi-fi!

2012-09-18 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:54:41PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
 
 I'm wondering just how robust an in camera [GPS] unit would actually be?

At a guess, I'd say it would be comparable to those found in smartphones.

I'd be more concerned with accuracy than ruggedness. I've charted my
photo locations at Grandfather Mountain over the years, upgrading GPS
receivers along the way: The number of channels, WAAS capability, etc.
have improved with each iteration. I record my coordinates in UTM
format, so it's been easy to see the big improvement in accuracy along
the way (some of the measurements I made with my first unit would vary
by over 100 meters the next time I visited the same spot); the time
required to initially lock on to satellites and to stabilize at a
specific location has been drastically reduced.

Of course, this is moot if your GPS gives you the accuracy you *need*.
At GFM a 10 meter discrepency can be the difference between getting a
nice view or no view at all or plunging off a cliff to your death. If
you just need to know that a shot was taken in Lexington, Kentucky or
Portland, Maine I'd think any GPS would do ;-)

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Re: A second Alaskan Coastal Image

2012-09-18 Thread kwaller

I saw your pup and the PPG this morning, and gave it a thumbs up.  It
looks better each time I see it.


Thanks Dan.


Is Misty Alaskan Morning also yours?


Yep.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: A second Alaskan Coastal Image



I saw your pup and the PPG this morning, and gave it a thumbs up.  It
looks better each time I see it.  Is Misty Alaskan Morning also
yours?
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:47 PM,  kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

After we left Juneau we cruised to the Tracy Arm and eventually to the
Sawyer Glacier. This area is off limits to all until late in the summer 
due

to the birthing of seal pups. We arrived after the prohibition to several
hundred pups and adults basking on ice chunks in the blazing sun.
Caught this pup eying us in the Zodiac.

20D, 300 FA 4.5, 400 ISO
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16460400

Comments appreciated.

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Re: seemingly ignored advantage of 24x36

2012-09-18 Thread Tom C
 From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com

 Larry, I should point out (in the most friendly and non-criticizing
 manner) that the thinking about the focal length and the effective
 angle of view or whatever has become irrelevant for me since I got the
 little Ricoh camera. Although at the moment I have the only lens for
 it (technically it is 33/2.5 1:2 macro with 9 lenses in 8 groups, one
 being aspheric or something like this) which they consistently mark as
 50 mm f2.5 macro. And such it is. I no longer think in terms of
 equvalent focal lenght. And I think - it is the correct way to go.
 Granted, the range of 24 to 90 mm focal lengths is where 99.99% of my
 photo interests are but I kind of resolved to not think about EFL any
 longer. It just confuses.


I agree. Regardless of focal length or effective focal length it's not
difficult to understand the effect of using a different lens. The
factoring of the numbers is just a dronish mathematical exercise
performed unnecessarily. I seem to be a drone, but I realize I either
want a wider or tighter composition and choose the lens.

 Now, I've just checked DPReview and it seems that Pentax won't be
 showing any more new products this year. This is expected given the
 recent merge with Ricoh. Still IMPVHO it is somewhat demotivating.

 Hopefully what I am about to type next won't get me ostracized from
 the PDML, but it seems I am about to start parting ways with my Pentax
 gear. I don't have firm plans how to proceed, but I am seeing a FF
 DSLR with the likes of 28-70/2.8 (or may be simply Sigma 24-60/2.8 in
 the respective mount (*) ) and a modern flash for all things where I
 have to shoot semi-officially, such as my daughter's class events and
 a very select collection of lenses built around Leica M mount.


Why would it/should it? We're all free agents and your purchasing
decisions are your choice. This isn't the PLML (Pentax Lovers Mailing
List), it's the PDML. It's more than just a bunch of people that use
and appreciate Pentax gear (which you know), it's above all a group of
people that enjoy photography regardless of brand used. Many people on
this list have parted ways with (or largely so) with Pentax - but not
the list.

snip

 (***) I handled yesterday a number of Sony NEX cameras (including
 NEX-7) in one of the local stores at where I am now. The only one that
 I could say was comfortable in my hand is NEX-7, but it is bigger and
 heavier than my Ricoh. Solid piece of gear that NEX-7 is. Solid
 indeed.


Yes. Consider that little guy with a built in EVF has 1 1/2 times the
resolution of a K-5. I find it very intuitive to use. I've invested in
a number of e-mount lenses at this point including the Sony 50/1.8,
the Sony 18-200, and the CZ 24/1.8. Also a K-mount adapter for use
with the 100/2.8 macro. I haven't had time to get out and shoot a lot
with it yet.

Tom C.

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Re: PDML Digest, Vol 77, Issue 162

2012-09-18 Thread Don Guthrie

Bruce I like absolutely everything about this photo.




pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 1
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:09:35 -0400
From: Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com
To: Pentax Discuss Mailing ListPDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - iAudience
Message-ID:
CAJUU0CecKZNvXwAO3bdCxB+ys=ptyw5pyxnjnqpoyk0uo6-...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

One of the sidewalk troubadours at Shop The Shore last Saturday ...

http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8000110049/in/photostream/lightbox/

K100D Super, DA 18-55 @ 43mm/f:14, 1/1000th sec, ISO 1600
Lr 4.1, Silver Efex Pro 2.0

Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO- I believe I can fly

2012-09-18 Thread kwaller
Never, EVER make doughnut jokes to a cop. They have NO sense of humor 
whatsoever.


The cops in Clare, Michigan would take exception to that remark.

When a long time bakery in Clare announced it was going out of business, the 
entire police force, all nine cops got together to prevent the bakery from 
going out of business. They renamed it 'Cops  Donuts'
http://www.copsdoughnuts.com/.  As the web site shows its alot more than 
donuts.
I stop there alot on my way to Traverse City and I can tell you bakery goods 
are great.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com

Subject: Re: PESO- I believe I can fly



From: Paul Sorenson


On 9/17/2012 5:27 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:

On 9/17/12 5:21 PM, David J Brooks wrote:


Wonderful shot. If people are following you you should call the cops

Dave




http://dougbrewer.wordpress.com/2012/09/13/i-believe-i-can-fly/



what if it's the cops following me?


Walk slow, so they can catch up

Dave




Should be able to fend them off with a box of donuts...

Nice shot, BTW, although a little dark on my monitor.  (Whose
calibration need to be checked)

-p


Never, EVER make doughnut jokes to a cop. They have NO sense of humor 
whatsoever.


Trust me on this one.



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GESO The '57 Ford Fairlane

2012-09-18 Thread Don Guthrie
Time for me to contribute to the classic car lust. Straight-up, 
stylized, and detailed. Comments welcomed.



http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Remembering-the-50s/23818512_VWfkVH

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Re: GESO The '57 Ford Fairlane

2012-09-18 Thread kwaller

The 3rd one is my favorite - nice job.

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- Original Message - 
From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com

Subject: GESO The '57 Ford Fairlane


Time for me to contribute to the classic car lust. Straight-up, 
stylized, and detailed. Comments welcomed.



http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Remembering-the-50s/23818512_VWfkVH



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Re: PDML Digest, Vol 77, Issue 162

2012-09-18 Thread Bruce Walker
'Preciate that very much, Don!


On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 Bruce I like absolutely everything about this photo.




 pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

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 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:09:35 -0400
 From: Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com
 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing ListPDML@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO - iAudience
 Message-ID:

 CAJUU0CecKZNvXwAO3bdCxB+ys=ptyw5pyxnjnqpoyk0uo6-...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 One of the sidewalk troubadours at Shop The Shore last Saturday ...

 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8000110049/in/photostream/lightbox/

 K100D Super, DA 18-55 @ 43mm/f:14, 1/1000th sec, ISO 1600
 Lr 4.1, Silver Efex Pro 2.0

 Comments welcome.

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PESO - Ragtime John

2012-09-18 Thread Bruce Walker
Another street troubadour: Ragtime John Layton. With his antique
resonator he didn't need an amp.

http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8000832205/lightbox/

K100D Super, DA 18-55 @ 35mm/f:5.6, 1/1000th sec, ISO 1600
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Re: GESO The '57 Ford Fairlane

2012-09-18 Thread Bruce Walker
Great stuff, Don. I especially like #2 and #8. #8's processing just
works right for this car I think.


On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 Time for me to contribute to the classic car lust. Straight-up, stylized,
 and detailed. Comments welcomed.


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Re: PESO - Ragtime John

2012-09-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very nice image.  I love his gitar and the look on his face.
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On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Another street troubadour: Ragtime John Layton. With his antique
 resonator he didn't need an amp.

 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8000832205/lightbox/

 K100D Super, DA 18-55 @ 35mm/f:5.6, 1/1000th sec, ISO 1600
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Re: PESO - Banks of the Condamine

2012-09-18 Thread Brian Walters

Joe - thanks for looking.  Much appreciated.



Cheers

Brian

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+

Quoting jn289 jn...@verizon.net:

Brian, This is indeed a very nice photo. I think it is everything  
and more that everyone said it is..Joe





G'day all

I came across this one from 2010 while trawling the archives.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP6755peso.html


Comments criticism, etc all welcome.







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Re: GESO The '57 Ford Fairlane

2012-09-18 Thread Jack Davis
All nice, Don! Believe I prefer the first full length version with it's 
slightly subdued color.


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From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com
To: pdml@pdml.net 
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:50 PM
Subject: GESO The '57 Ford Fairlane

Time for me to contribute to the classic car lust. Straight-up, stylized, and 
detailed. Comments welcomed.


http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Remembering-the-50s/23818512_VWfkVH

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Re: Sanicole Sunset Airhow 2012

2012-09-18 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Emil emyl...@gmail.com:


Hi

Here is some of my shots from Sanicole Sunset Airshow held 14th Sept. 2012

http://emylius.blogspot.hu/2012/09/20120914-15-sanicole-antwerpen.html

Shots taken with Pentax equipment: K-5 body (mostly in TAv mode, iso
100-6400) and 55-300 zoom lens or da* 4/300 (+ 1,7x tc when it was
needed)

I hope you like them :)





Yes, indeed.  I think that's one of the best sets of aircraft images  
I've seen.


So many spectacular shots but I'm really envious of the C-130 in  
_IGP9868.jpg.  I regularly see these doing training runs that take  
them over my house, but I've never managed a shot as sharp as that one  
of yours.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: GESO The '57 Ford Fairlane

2012-09-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Quite a car, and well rendered.
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 Time for me to contribute to the classic car lust. Straight-up, stylized,
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Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread P. J. Alling
I'd comment on this but as a convert I try to stay out of religious 
arguments these days, just to fight the stereotype.


On 9/18/2012 12:45 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote:

Yes this is an oft repeated old stuff. But here is a version bottled
anew. Since my retirement I have been travelling a lot. Last weekend
we were in San Francisco. We love the wharf area and pier 39 plus the
rides on the historic cable cars. A very windy and chilly day. Lots
and lots of birds flying around for scraps of food. And eat means they
have to drop too. So bits of bird droppings broken up and propelled by
the wind do hit your camera and the lens. I was not spared.
Back at the hotel, I tried cleaning the filter with a blower brush and
the Japanese high fiber lens cloth (no China stuff). Faint spots still
remained on the Hoya 77mm Pro 1 Filter. Back home I tried a lens
cleaner. No luck. I could still see very faint spotting on the filter.
My daughter was quick to point out that bird droppings have strong
chemicals that can stain a lens coating, perhaps damage it.
I would now love to hear from our photographer friends, a) for whom a
filter is absolutely sacrilege, b) the Buddha's middle path takers who
say they take the filter off for important events, and c) those who
swear by the filter.
Bipin.
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RE: PESO - Lunch

2012-09-18 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I was having second thoughts about the title for exactly that reason. Also, the 
photo was taken late afternoon so it wasn't even lunch time.

I'm glad you commented because I was beginning to wonder if my post made the 
list. I was getting paranoid: Is it that bad a photo?

So, if anyone's reading this, let me know what you think, even if you think 
it's bad. As Boris says, be brutal.

I actually think it's a good photo but on my android the colour looks off. Also 
I am now wondering if it needs to be cropped a bit so we can't see the bottom 
edge of the wing. I think this is a very detailed, well-focused close up. Maybe 
my feelings have affected my ability to properly critique this photo.

So, have at it! Yay or nay (to quote another list member). If it can be 
improved let me know that, too. As I said I think I have at least the seed of a 
very good photo, so if you think it can be saved I'd like to know how.

Thanks everyone!

;-)

cheers,
frank

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
Sent: September 18, 2012 9/18/12
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: PESO - Lunch

 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 frank theriault
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lunch.html
 

you ate a butterfly? I thought you were Vegan!

B


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Re: GESO The '57 Ford Fairlane

2012-09-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
What Ken said. The undersaturated look works well here. A nice setting for a 
car pic. Well done.
Paul

On Sep 18, 2012, at 4:05 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

 The 3rd one is my favorite - nice job.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
 - Original Message - From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com
 Subject: GESO The '57 Ford Fairlane
 
 
 Time for me to contribute to the classic car lust. Straight-up, stylized, 
 and detailed. Comments welcomed.
 http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Remembering-the-50s/23818512_VWfkVH
 
 
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Re: Graflite Graflex 250 bare bulb flash

2012-09-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
Contact the Jedi Knights, it may be lightsaber material.  Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 11:44 PM, jn289 jn...@verizon.net wrote:
 Does anyone know anything about this bare bulb flash from the past. There is
 one in a store near me for sale.Does not have the battery or bulb, which
 looks like a Norman or Sunpac 120j bulb might work. The price is very
 good..Thanks, Joe

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RE: PESO - Lunch

2012-09-18 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 knarftheria...@gmail.com
 
 I was having second thoughts about the title for exactly that reason.
 Also, the photo was taken late afternoon so it wasn't even lunch time.
 
 I'm glad you commented because I was beginning to wonder if my post
 made the list. I was getting paranoid: Is it that bad a photo?
 
 So, if anyone's reading this, let me know what you think, even if you
 think it's bad. As Boris says, be brutal.
 
 I actually think it's a good photo but on my android the colour looks
 off. Also I am now wondering if it needs to be cropped a bit so we
 can't see the bottom edge of the wing. I think this is a very detailed,
 well-focused close up. Maybe my feelings have affected my ability to
 properly critique this photo.
 
 So, have at it! Yay or nay (to quote another list member). If it can
 be improved let me know that, too. As I said I think I have at least
 the seed of a very good photo, so if you think it can be saved I'd like
 to know how.
 

It's a nice subject and nicely composed - difficult to get anything new or
astounding with such subject matter though unless you're a lepidopterist, or
whatever manner of person it is that knows about these things. The light is
just right for it, but it does seem over-saturated to me, and there seems to
be a lot of noise in there among the greenery. I like being able to see the
pollen standing out on the butterly's wings.

B

 Thanks everyone!
 
 ;-)
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. --
 Christopher Hitchens
 
 --- Original Message ---
 
 From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
 Sent: September 18, 2012 9/18/12
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: PESO - Lunch
 
  From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf
  Of frank theriault
 
  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lunch.html
 
 
 you ate a butterfly? I thought you were Vegan!
 



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RE: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread John Sessoms

From: J.C. O'Connell


Ive never been much of a filter user, lucky to have not had any
incidents where a filter would have made a difference.


At least two cases of a filter made a difference and one case of there's 
only so much the filter can do.


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Re: Hey Cory! New Canon 6D has wi-fi!

2012-09-18 Thread John Sessoms

From: John Francis


On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:54:41PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:


I'm wondering just how robust an in camera [GPS] unit would actually be?


At a guess, I'd say it would be comparable to those found in smartphones.


So how effective would that be in terms of like I ever lose some weight 
and actually manage to join the annual Saturday morning Mark Roberts 
Mountain-Goat-a-Thon at GFM one year?


(Don't laugh. It could happen.)

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Re: Sanicole Sunset Airhow 2012

2012-09-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
Emil,
Fine shots, great focus.
Never seen night shots before, excellent.
Was that a jet with front canard wings?
Wow gallery!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Emil emyl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 Here is some of my shots from Sanicole Sunset Airshow held 14th Sept. 2012

 http://emylius.blogspot.hu/2012/09/20120914-15-sanicole-antwerpen.html

 Shots taken with Pentax equipment: K-5 body (mostly in TAv mode, iso
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 needed)

 I hope you like them :)

 Best regards,
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OT: Colorized versions of old black and white images

2012-09-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/27-photos-that-have-been-recolored-and-brought-bac
If nothing else, these exercises highlight some of the strengths and
weaknesses of each format.
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Re: Sanicole Sunset Airhow 2012

2012-09-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That certainly does appear to be the case, Bob.
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On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Emil,
 Fine shots, great focus.
 Never seen night shots before, excellent.
 Was that a jet with front canard wings?
 Wow gallery!
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Emil emyl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 Here is some of my shots from Sanicole Sunset Airshow held 14th Sept. 2012

 http://emylius.blogspot.hu/2012/09/20120914-15-sanicole-antwerpen.html

 Shots taken with Pentax equipment: K-5 body (mostly in TAv mode, iso
 100-6400) and 55-300 zoom lens or da* 4/300 (+ 1,7x tc when it was
 needed)

 I hope you like them :)

 Best regards,
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RE: PESO - Lunch

2012-09-18 Thread Kenneth Waller
I like it but the biggest issue for me is the cutoff of both wings.

-Original Message-
From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
Subject: RE: PESO - Lunch

 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 knarftheria...@gmail.com
 
 I was having second thoughts about the title for exactly that reason.
 Also, the photo was taken late afternoon so it wasn't even lunch time.
 
 I'm glad you commented because I was beginning to wonder if my post
 made the list. I was getting paranoid: Is it that bad a photo?
 
 So, if anyone's reading this, let me know what you think, even if you
 think it's bad. As Boris says, be brutal.
 
 I actually think it's a good photo but on my android the colour looks
 off. Also I am now wondering if it needs to be cropped a bit so we
 can't see the bottom edge of the wing. I think this is a very detailed,
 well-focused close up. Maybe my feelings have affected my ability to
 properly critique this photo.
 
 So, have at it! Yay or nay (to quote another list member). If it can
 be improved let me know that, too. As I said I think I have at least
 the seed of a very good photo, so if you think it can be saved I'd like
 to know how.
 

It's a nice subject and nicely composed - difficult to get anything new or
astounding with such subject matter though unless you're a lepidopterist, or
whatever manner of person it is that knows about these things. The light is
just right for it, but it does seem over-saturated to me, and there seems to
be a lot of noise in there among the greenery. I like being able to see the
pollen standing out on the butterly's wings.

B

 Thanks everyone!
 
 ;-)
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. --
 Christopher Hitchens
 
 --- Original Message ---
 
 From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
 Sent: September 18, 2012 9/18/12
 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: RE: PESO - Lunch
 
  From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf
  Of frank theriault
 
  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/09/lunch.html
 
 
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Re: Graflite Graflex 250 bare bulb flash

2012-09-18 Thread Darren Addy
No personal experience. My son-in-law has gotten into vintage
flashbulbs but he uses them with a camera that was designed for it (an
old Kodak Tourist). He picks up flash bulbs by the box when he finds a
good buy on them. I was surprised to learn how much light they put out
and how many people still like to use them (spelunkers, for example).

If you haven't already found these references via Google, here are some links:
http://lommen9.home.xs4all.nl/GRAFLITE/index.html
http://graflex.org/helpboard/viewtopic.php?t=501
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/rec.photo.equipment.medium-format/MeRtYKBc3uU
other options:
http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?topic_id=23msg_id=0004iC

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Re: OT: Colorized versions of old black and white images

2012-09-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/27-photos-that-have-been-recolored-and-brought-bac
If nothing else, these exercises highlight some of the strengths and
weaknesses of each format.

It's the photographic equivalent of Kenny G!

(Kenny G is a rather lame pop-jazz sax player who infamously released
a version of Louis Armstrong's What a Wonderful World with his own
sax solos overdubbed. http://www.jazzoasis.com/methenyonkennyg.htm)
 
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RE: Sanicole Sunset Airhow 2012

2012-09-18 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Wow!

Great shots!

cheers,
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From: Emil emyl...@gmail.com
Sent: September 18, 2012 9/18/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Sanicole Sunset Airhow 2012

Hi

Here is some of my shots from Sanicole Sunset Airshow held 14th Sept. 2012

http://emylius.blogspot.hu/2012/09/20120914-15-sanicole-antwerpen.html

Shots taken with Pentax equipment: K-5 body (mostly in TAv mode, iso
100-6400) and 55-300 zoom lens or da* 4/300 (+ 1,7x tc when it was
needed)

I hope you like them :)

Best regards,
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Re: OT: Humor For our Canadian Friends

2012-09-18 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Yes.

We really do talk like that.

Eh?

cheers,
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Sent: September 18, 2012 9/18/12
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Subject: Re: OT: Humor For our Canadian Friends

Thats aboot it

Dave

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RE: PESO - iAudience

2012-09-18 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I shy away from street musicians because they can be so cliche but you avoided 
that by focusing on the spectator. 

Very well composed and rendered. 

I like it!

Cheers,
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From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
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Subject: PESO - iAudience

One of the sidewalk troubadours at Shop The Shore last Saturday ...

http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8000110049/in/photostream/lightbox/

K100D Super, DA 18-55 @ 43mm/f:14, 1/1000th sec, ISO 1600
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Re: Sanicole Sunset Airhow 2012

2012-09-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dan,
Didn't know they had any of those in the Belgian airforce.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 That certainly does appear to be the case, Bob.
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 Emil,
 Fine shots, great focus.
 Never seen night shots before, excellent.
 Was that a jet with front canard wings?
 Wow gallery!
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Emil emyl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 Here is some of my shots from Sanicole Sunset Airshow held 14th Sept. 2012

 http://emylius.blogspot.hu/2012/09/20120914-15-sanicole-antwerpen.html

 Shots taken with Pentax equipment: K-5 body (mostly in TAv mode, iso
 100-6400) and 55-300 zoom lens or da* 4/300 (+ 1,7x tc when it was
 needed)

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 Best regards,
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Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting knarftheria...@gmail.com:

I used to filter religiously when I shot film primarily because I  
shot almost exclusively Tri X and I liked a yellow, orange or red  
filter for contrast and to darken skies.


Then when I got the *istD none of my filters fit the 18-55 and I had  
read that Pentax coatings were pretty tough, so that was it for  
filters.


And now the filter ring on the 18-55 (my most used lens by far) is bent.

So no filter. Don't miss it.



Me neither.

I used to use a UV or Skylights on all of my lenses but eventually  
came to the conclusion that:


a) I had never bumped my lenses enough to cause damage to the filter,  
so what was the point?


b) I could never afford quality filters, so what was the point?

c) The lenses either had a cap on when not in use or a hood (usually)  
when they were, so what was the point?


The point was/is - I didn't need 'em.

I do use a polarizer or ND, however, when appropriate.  I carry around  
a grad ND as well but even it sees little use because I can usually  
achieve the same effect through multiple exposures combined in post.




Cheers

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From: Bipin Gupta bip...@gmail.com
Sent: September 18, 2012 9/18/12
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Subject: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

Yes this is an oft repeated old stuff. But here is a version bottled
anew. Since my retirement I have been travelling a lot. Last weekend
we were in San Francisco. We love the wharf area and pier 39 plus the
rides on the historic cable cars. A very windy and chilly day. Lots
and lots of birds flying around for scraps of food. And eat means they
have to drop too. So bits of bird droppings broken up and propelled by
the wind do hit your camera and the lens. I was not spared.
Back at the hotel, I tried cleaning the filter with a blower brush and
the Japanese high fiber lens cloth (no China stuff). Faint spots still
remained on the Hoya 77mm Pro 1 Filter. Back home I tried a lens
cleaner. No luck. I could still see very faint spotting on the filter.
My daughter was quick to point out that bird droppings have strong
chemicals that can stain a lens coating, perhaps damage it.
I would now love to hear from our photographer friends, a) for whom a
filter is absolutely sacrilege, b) the Buddha's middle path takers who
say they take the filter off for important events, and c) those who
swear by the filter.
Bipin.
camp: San Mateo, CA and not from the far away enchanting land.

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Re: OT: Humor For our Canadian Friends

2012-09-18 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Yes, but to our ears you southerners say a-bay-out.

;-)

Of course we Canadians have lots of different local accents (the Newfoundland 
accent probably being the best known - rumour has it that local Newfies can 
actually tell what fishing village one comes from by their accent). 

That being said the central Canadian accent is so flat and neutral that quite 
a few Canadians are newsreaders down south (as in the USA). Robert Macneil 
(Macneil - Lehrer Report), Keith Morrison, Peter Jennings and John Roberts (we 
knew him as JD Roberts) come to mind. Oh yeah, and the Scud Stud, what was 
his name, Arthur Kent?

cheers,
frank



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From: Walt ldott...@gmail.com
Sent: September 18, 2012 9/18/12
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Subject: Re: OT: Humor For our Canadian Friends

The thing is, it's always sound more like a boat to my ear. But, then, 
I speak Kentuckese.

On 9/18/2012 8:41 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
 Thats aboot it

 Dave

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 http://themetapicture.com/canadian-investigators/
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RE: GESO The '57 Ford Fairlane

2012-09-18 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Wonderful shots. Love the detail photos and you are very fortunate to have had 
about the perfect background! All well seen and captured.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com
Sent: September 18, 2012 9/18/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: GESO The '57 Ford Fairlane

Time for me to contribute to the classic car lust. Straight-up, 
stylized, and detailed. Comments welcomed.


http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Remembering-the-50s/23818512_VWfkVH

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RE: PESO - Ragtime John

2012-09-18 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Nice! Again, hard to take an interesting shot of street musicians but his 
facial expression makes it.

And again, very well rendered. 

Like!

cheers,
frank

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From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
Sent: September 18, 2012 9/18/12
To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Ragtime John

Another street troubadour: Ragtime John Layton. With his antique
resonator he didn't need an amp.

http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8000832205/lightbox/

K100D Super, DA 18-55 @ 35mm/f:5.6, 1/1000th sec, ISO 1600
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RE: PESO - Ragtime John

2012-09-18 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Btw, did you notice what type of dobro? I've never seen a National that wasn't 
metal and this one looks like a wood top, so I'm curious...

Cheers,
frank

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From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
Sent: September 18, 2012 9/18/12
To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - Ragtime John

Another street troubadour: Ragtime John Layton. With his antique
resonator he didn't need an amp.

http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8000832205/lightbox/

K100D Super, DA 18-55 @ 35mm/f:5.6, 1/1000th sec, ISO 1600
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Re: Sanicole Sunset Airhow 2012

2012-09-18 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com:


Dan,
Didn't know they had any of those in the Belgian airforce.
Regards,  Bob S.



I'm certainly no expert on these matters but that looks like a  
Dassault Rafale, which would make it French Air Force.



Cheers

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On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  
danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

That certainly does appear to be the case, Bob.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

Emil,
Fine shots, great focus.
Never seen night shots before, excellent.
Was that a jet with front canard wings?
Wow gallery!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:09 AM, Emil emyl...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi

Here is some of my shots from Sanicole Sunset Airshow held 14th Sept. 2012

http://emylius.blogspot.hu/2012/09/20120914-15-sanicole-antwerpen.html

Shots taken with Pentax equipment: K-5 body (mostly in TAv mode, iso
100-6400) and 55-300 zoom lens or da* 4/300 (+ 1,7x tc when it was
needed)

I hope you like them :)

Best regards,
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Re: On wi-fi, flashes, batteries etc.

2012-09-18 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:22:35AM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 If the camera bodies and flashes were both equipped with wifi it would open a 
 tremendous number of opportunities.  Of course, the right way to do this 
 would be a communications standard so that things would work across brands.  

This strikes me as the sort of application that could use a standard Bluetooth 
core - all the pairing issues are part of the package.

A somewhat-related question for the video shooters: does a K-5 (or whatever) 
have any way of reviewing/playing back audio?

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Re: On wi-fi, flashes, batteries etc.

2012-09-18 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:22 AM, John Francis wrote:

 On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 10:22:35AM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 If the camera bodies and flashes were both equipped with wifi it would open 
 a tremendous number of opportunities.  Of course, the right way to do this 
 would be a communications standard so that things would work across brands.  
 
 This strikes me as the sort of application that could use a standard 
 Bluetooth core - all the pairing issues are part of the package.

Yeah, but as long as you are adding a wireless feature, why not do one with the 
bandwidth for at least remote viewing of the previews?


 
 A somewhat-related question for the video shooters: does a K-5 (or whatever) 
 have any way of reviewing/playing back audio?

Yeah, the display button.

 
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Re: PESO - Ragtime John

2012-09-18 Thread Bruce Walker
Frank, it's a Del Vecchio from Brazil:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Del_Vecchio_(guitar_maker)

Most likely one of the Dinâmico guitars. John told me it's an antique.
It's certainly really well used; half of the soundhole grills are
missing or caved in. They used gorgeous Brazilian wood in the top
plate.

Apparently rare outside Brazil, but semi-famous because Chet Atkins
played one. The construction is dubious and they're often out of tune,
but this one sounded wonderful, I thought.


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knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Btw, did you notice what type of dobro? I've never seen a National that 
 wasn't metal and this one looks like a wood top, so I'm curious...

 Cheers,
 frank

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 --- Original Message ---

 From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
 Sent: September 18, 2012 9/18/12
 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO - Ragtime John

 Another street troubadour: Ragtime John Layton. With his antique
 resonator he didn't need an amp.

 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8000832205/lightbox/

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Re: To Filter or not to Filter your Lens

2012-09-18 Thread Doug Brewer

On 9/18/12 2:20 PM, Walt wrote:

On 9/18/2012 9:54 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:



I'm solidly in the No Filter camp, but will be the first to admit
that the way I treat my photos tools is shameful.


I never use them, either. When I damage a lens, I don't screw around
with nettling little issues like the front element. I turn them into
paperweights.

-- Walt



That's the spirit.

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Re: PESO - Ragtime John

2012-09-18 Thread Bruce Walker
This was a decisive moment shot. John tended not to smile; he had a
fixed guitar face on most of the time but when a big guy walked past
he looked up, smiled and made eye contact. Got him! :-)

Thanks, Frank.


On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:07 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nice! Again, hard to take an interesting shot of street musicians but his 
 facial expression makes it.

 And again, very well rendered.

 Like!

 cheers,
 frank

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 --- Original Message ---

 From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
 Sent: September 18, 2012 9/18/12
 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO - Ragtime John

 Another street troubadour: Ragtime John Layton. With his antique
 resonator he didn't need an amp.

 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8000832205/lightbox/

 K100D Super, DA 18-55 @ 35mm/f:5.6, 1/1000th sec, ISO 1600
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Peso: Downburst, Northern Buffalo County, Nebraska (7/28/2012)

2012-09-18 Thread Darren Addy
Didn't spend a lot of time on this one, but hope you like it
nonetheless. It was one of the rare brief storms of the summer and I
had to rush about 20 miles to catch it as it died is big exhale of
wind, hail, and brief hard rain.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/8001420606/lightbox/

Comments and evicerations welcome in equal measure.

Sigma EX 10-20mm f4-5.6 on Pentax K-5

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