Re: Book submissions

[David Mann]

On Mar 24, 2013, at 11:47 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:

> PS: That Number of the Beast thingy? It apparently got screwed up in
> translation somewhere along the way and depending on whose argument you
> accept the "real" number should be either 616 or 661.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkZqFtYtqaI

Cheers,
Dave


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A few questions about lenses for those that shoot old primes...

[Bipin Gupta]

Hello Zos I am a Pentaxian since some 36 years and shoot outdoors
pretty frequently. But if you see my gear it will look as good as new.
So are my laptops/tablets, the 35 year old brief case 4-in-one stereo
system, the 3 or 4 binoculars, even my car. And yes you could sleep in
my bathroom - it is so clean and hygienic.
Simple, cleanliness and keeping things clean is a way of life, an
attitude, and a bit of routine "safe" brushing and cleaning. So here
it is:-
a) I have since changed to WR lenses and cameras. These are well
sealed and do not suck in dust or moisture. Also these lenses are less
prone to fogging and moisture proof. Hopefully fungus and coating
deterioration will be a thing of the past - but time will tell.
b) The newer lenses have SP coatings, less prone to finger prints and
water retention. They are also harder wearing. But that said, I never
blow on my lens and the use a hanky to clean them. Blowing leaves acid
from your breath on the lens coating and hankys always have fine dust
on them - leave fine swirl & scratch marks on the lens.
I use high quality nylon or squirrel hair brush to clean the lens
surface. Then Japanese (NOT China) micro fiber cloth to clean them.
c) I always have the best quality Pro Protector Clear Slim Frame &
Thin Glass SMC Filters on my lens. The hood is always on - indoors or
out. And the lens is capped when not in use - learned from my K1000 SE
days - uncapped the meter is ON, capped the meter is OFF & no battery
drain.
Also I buy lots of lens caps - keep loosing them - $ 1.70 for a 77mm
cap shipped fro China. Can it be any cheaper and safer?
d) I avoid changing lenses outdoors. When I must, I check the wind
direction, turn my back, hunch forward, keep the 2nd lens ready in the
bag with the rear cap loosen'd, point the lens down remove the lens,
cap it with the cap from the 2nd lens, the attach this lens with the
camera still facing downwards.
I always carry a large thin film plastic bag to protect my gear in
case of a shower. So in very windy & dusty conditions I change lenses
inside the look thru plastic bag.
f) hey look, I love classical lenses both M42 & K - have lots of them
- but I don't go overboard on them - they just can't be better than
the computer designed stuff with their tuff lens coat & sealing - and
as a technocrat, a master mechanic and a retired advisor in the
world's largest conglomerate, I beg you to believe me. Old lenses will
yellow (radio active glass), lens elements will fog and separate (poor
balsam glue), single lens coating will deteriorate, looseness between
sliding tubes over time will become worse and let dust enter, old
grease (not smart synthetic stuff) will break down, others.
g) Please don't use a rocket blower (& never canned air)
indiscriminately on lenses and inside camera bodies. They will over
time cause more dust to accumulate inside.
h) When not in use, put the camera in a light neoprene case - $ 7 from
China shipped. I just remove mine before shooting and hang it from my
waist belt using the velcro on the case. This case (same fabric as a
wet suit) is pretty thick - protects your gear against knocks too.
i) For classic lenses wrap some thin film plastic on the lens barrels
at the overlapping joints held fast by rubber bands. You will have
lesser dust inside your lenses - and don't bother if  people laugh at
you. You will still be able to focus or zoom - just ensure the rubber
band is not too tight.
I could go on and on, my friend. If this has worked for me for three
decades it should work for you.
Give them a try - won't you.
Bipin - from that far away enchanting land.

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Re: PESOs: Take the Long Way Home

[Aahz Maruch]

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013, Darren Addy wrote:
>
> This was my 2nd day ever seeking a Whooper while armed with a camera.
> The first, last year, I drove right to one over a lunch hour. This
> time, I found one again:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/8575498343/in/photostream
> 
> In addition, I got many of the pedestrian Sandhills Cranes:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/8576594072/in/photostream

The Whooper is a good catch, but I like these Sandhills better.
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PESO - Unfinished

[Paul Stenquist]

Another pic with the SMC Pentax 85/1.8. 
f8 @ 1/40th, ISO 5000

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17075152&size=lg

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Gallery programming (was Re: PESO - Kodachrome 1976)

[Aahz Maruch]

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013, David Mann wrote:
>
> While the scanner does its thing I'm rewriting my old photo gallery
> system from scratch and migrating the old data across.  I can't
> believe I wrote such bad code :)

What programming language are you using?  (I've been in the process of
upgrading my gallery code, written in Python.)
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Re: OT Really f*ck*ng annoying.

[Kenneth Waller]

Bitch to Adorama!


-Original Message-
>From: "P.J. Alling" 
>Subject: OT Really f*ck*ng annoying.
>
>So I ordered an item Adorama through Amazon.  Paid by card, and gave 
>them my street address, as Adorama ships via UPS or FedEx, standard 
>delivery as I'm not in a hurry.  Everything seems to be going fine until 
>I realize the item hasn't moved since it arrived in North Haven.  
>Checking into I find that UPS has contracted with the USPS to deliver 
>packages!!!  Now I don't have a mail receptacle at my house, I have a 
>post office box.  UPS doesn't deliver to PO Boxes. The US mail won't 
>deliver to my house, no receptacle.  I think I'll scream.
>
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OT Really f*ck*ng annoying.

[P.J. Alling]

So I ordered an item Adorama through Amazon.  Paid by card, and gave 
them my street address, as Adorama ships via UPS or FedEx, standard 
delivery as I'm not in a hurry.  Everything seems to be going fine until 
I realize the item hasn't moved since it arrived in North Haven.  
Checking into I find that UPS has contracted with the USPS to deliver 
packages!!!  Now I don't have a mail receptacle at my house, I have a 
post office box.  UPS doesn't deliver to PO Boxes. The US mail won't 
deliver to my house, no receptacle.  I think I'll scream.


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RE: OT GESO - Ellen Day

[John Sessoms]

From: "Bob W"

From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bill

On 23/03/2013 5:20 AM, Derby Chang wrote:


I completely missed the fact Ellen DeGeneres was doing a show in the
botanic gardens today. I was wondering why there were so many Ellen
t-shirts walking around. Good day for it

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/03/ellenday/index.html


Derby, are there any fat and ugly, or even plain looking women where
you live?



Don't fancy your's much:


But I think she might be a lesbian, anyway.

B


But did she used to be a lawyer?

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Re: OT: Knarfian inspiration, no doubt

[Mark C]

On 3/21/2013 8:58 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Walt wrote:


I think Frank may have a legitimate I-P claim here.

http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=83474

Yes, it's a pale imitation, but the Canadian-Hat motif is unmistakable.

Knarf does knudity?

  

Real Canadians wearing real hats...



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Re: A few questions about lenses for those that shoot old primes....

[kwaller]

My question is that how do I deal with constant dust accumulating in my 
primes?


FWIW - I've shot & changed lenses in rain, snow, sleet, in wind storms, in 
the desert & on boats, still have most of the same lenses for the last 24 
year & haven't had major dust issues. I simply always keep caps on lenses 
when not on a body; I keep removed lenses in a camera bag. Except for my 
600, the lenses all have UV filters on them.


Occasionally I use a 'Lenspen' and/or lens cloth to remove specs.
As to the camera body, I always change lenses with the camera pointed down 
to minimize dust on the mirror.


Dust is not an issue if you spend a little time to minimize it IMO.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Zos Xavius" 

Subject: A few questions about lenses for those that shoot old primes



I've done some testing and decided that my FA 28-80 was completely
decentered to the point of being unusable, especially over 50mm. I'm
guessing its likely the sloppiness in the barrelbad, bad, bad
design and construction... I have to stop down to f13 to get a usable
image that has ok sharpness across the frame. I'm going to retire this
one. For a basically free lens I can't really complain. Its been on my
camera pretty full time for a while now and I'm guessing I've just
knocked it around too much or something. I tend to be pretty hard on
gear and carry a camera pretty much full time, so it get exposed to
the elements on a daily basis. What I'm getting at is that I'm about
to switch to just fully using primes. I may get a 55-300 as that would
be useful and I think I still want a 16-45 for city walk around shots
and street.

I have a 12-24 that I should be fixing soon, and hopefully won't need
sent off for realignment. I got the aperture on my M 28mm 3.5 working
again and am finding it a joy to use. It still needs sent off for a
serious cleaning, but even with some dust and a bit of haze it is
still giving nice sharp contrasty images stopped down. I think I might
find another nice copy since they go for so cheap. I have an A50 1.7
that is razor sharp and an M 50 1.4 that is right up there with it,
but I prefer the contrasty rendering of the A lens for landscape
personally. If I could get an 18 and a 24mm prime for a reasonable
price, I could have an all prime setup with my 12-24 for wide angles.
Unfortunately 18 and 24mm lenses aren't plentiful or cheap for pentax.
So I will have to use a zoom to fill in some gaps there until I can
get rich and afford a 21 ltd.

Ok, sorry this is turning into a long ramble. My question is that how
do I deal with constant dust accumulating in my primes? Is this
something that's just to be expected and I should look at sending
lenses out every few years for cleanings? I have a nice tamron 60-300
sp that I eventually retired due to it becoming a dust pump and it has
loads of internal dust just after using it to shoot flowers for a few
months. Maybe the seals aren't very good in the lens anymore...too
bad, it was a sharp zoom that is unlikely worth the cost of cleaning.
I try to keep just keep my normal walk around lenses down to a minimum
for this reason. Hence why I was using the cheap fa 28-80 for a while
because I rather dislike the old 18-55 lens I have.

I'll just be down to a 28mm and a 50mm for a while it looks like, so
I'm trying to think about how I can better take care of my lenses or
maybe if I should just start accepting that they are going to get
dirty with constant use. I know a lot of you shoot in the outdoors and
I hate lens swapping outside in the dusty air, but when you shoot
outside all the time its kind of unavoidable. Especially with primes.
I use a rocket blower a lot and wet clean the sensor as needed. My
lack of a gear budget at the moment is really crimping my style. I
seriously need to get some focal lengths available again. :(



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RE: A few questions about lenses for those that shoot old primes....

[J.C. O'Connell]

I used a lot of K series primes which are now nearly 40 years old. They dont
have much or any dust and have excellent contrast and sharpness. I dont
change lenses outdoors a lot but I dont think its as much of a problem as
you are thinking it is.

-
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hifis...@gate.net
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-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Zos Xavius
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 7:16 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: A few questions about lenses for those that shoot old primes

I've done some testing and decided that my FA 28-80 was completely
decentered to the point of being unusable, especially over 50mm. I'm
guessing its likely the sloppiness in the barrelbad, bad, bad
design and construction... I have to stop down to f13 to get a usable
image that has ok sharpness across the frame. I'm going to retire this
one. For a basically free lens I can't really complain. Its been on my
camera pretty full time for a while now and I'm guessing I've just
knocked it around too much or something. I tend to be pretty hard on
gear and carry a camera pretty much full time, so it get exposed to
the elements on a daily basis. What I'm getting at is that I'm about
to switch to just fully using primes. I may get a 55-300 as that would
be useful and I think I still want a 16-45 for city walk around shots
and street.

I have a 12-24 that I should be fixing soon, and hopefully won't need
sent off for realignment. I got the aperture on my M 28mm 3.5 working
again and am finding it a joy to use. It still needs sent off for a
serious cleaning, but even with some dust and a bit of haze it is
still giving nice sharp contrasty images stopped down. I think I might
find another nice copy since they go for so cheap. I have an A50 1.7
that is razor sharp and an M 50 1.4 that is right up there with it,
but I prefer the contrasty rendering of the A lens for landscape
personally. If I could get an 18 and a 24mm prime for a reasonable
price, I could have an all prime setup with my 12-24 for wide angles.
Unfortunately 18 and 24mm lenses aren't plentiful or cheap for pentax.
So I will have to use a zoom to fill in some gaps there until I can
get rich and afford a 21 ltd.

Ok, sorry this is turning into a long ramble. My question is that how
do I deal with constant dust accumulating in my primes? Is this
something that's just to be expected and I should look at sending
lenses out every few years for cleanings? I have a nice tamron 60-300
sp that I eventually retired due to it becoming a dust pump and it has
loads of internal dust just after using it to shoot flowers for a few
months. Maybe the seals aren't very good in the lens anymore...too
bad, it was a sharp zoom that is unlikely worth the cost of cleaning.
I try to keep just keep my normal walk around lenses down to a minimum
for this reason. Hence why I was using the cheap fa 28-80 for a while
because I rather dislike the old 18-55 lens I have.

I'll just be down to a 28mm and a 50mm for a while it looks like, so
I'm trying to think about how I can better take care of my lenses or
maybe if I should just start accepting that they are going to get
dirty with constant use. I know a lot of you shoot in the outdoors and
I hate lens swapping outside in the dusty air, but when you shoot
outside all the time its kind of unavoidable. Especially with primes.
I use a rocket blower a lot and wet clean the sensor as needed. My
lack of a gear budget at the moment is really crimping my style. I
seriously need to get some focal lengths available again. :(

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Re: A few questions about lenses for those that shoot old primes....

[Zos Xavius]

Well noted Paul. I do need to protect my lenses more from the
elements. I also used socks for a brief moment, but realized they were
just leaving fiber everywhere pretty quickly so gave up on that idea.
I always used a neck strap. The first tumble, something happened where
I thought the camera was slung over my shoulder, but was instead
sitting on just my shoulder bag. Next thing I know I hear the gut
wrenching of a camera hitting asphalt. It was mostly ok, but I think
in hindsight that is when my lens mount was actually bent. Yeah, bad
move. The next time was when in the dark I hit the quick release on my
tripod which is very conveniently located next to the ball release due
to a brilliant design decision. I've been able to fix most of my
problems myself, but I've been somewhat lucky in a way. BTW, I took
some test shots with my 28mm and the internal dust seems to make no
difference at all. Neither did all the crud on the front element I now
need to clean off. This lens is SHARP too. It was my favorite for the
better part of a year. I generally just use soft cloth and breath. For
oil buildup I will use eclipse and microfiber wipes. Doesn't seem to
hurt the coatings one bit. Pentax coatings seem fairly robust. Still I
try to at least be gentle on the glass. These all metal primes are
very tank-like. That's part of why I love them.

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Re: FS Friday: Pentax 645D with AF 55mm f2.8 SDM lens

[Paul Stenquist]

Welcome back, Chris. Good to see your name turn up here.

Paul
On Mar 23, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Chris Brogden  wrote:

> Is that better than not being remembered at all?  I'm not sure.  :)
> 
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> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bill
> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:14 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: FS Friday: Pentax 645D with AF 55mm f2.8 SDM lens
> 
> On 22/03/2013 9:26 AM, Chris Brogden wrote:
>> Hi, everyone.  Old-timers may remember me from back in the day when 
>> Pentax ran the list and the grass was at least +3 saturation greener.
> I remember you as Ronaldo Bomfim.
> 
> bill
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Re: considering upgrading

[Zos Xavius]

The 2-bits gives a lot more data in RAW. 12 vs 14-bit asides, I'm with
Aahz. The k-30 just isn't as fully featured as the k-5. The top plate
LCD is extremely useful and negates use of the back screen a lot, so
you can turn it off and save battery. For me it was the bracketing.
The k-30 is only three brackets, the k-5 is 5. Faster burst with a
very deep buffer. The k-5 is actually even now a pretty killer DSLR.
The only improvement with the k-30 is video really, but no external
mic input and a mono built in mic is kind of weak IMO. A k-01 is
actually a lot better for video. Yeah there's focus peaking, but I
don't like using live view and if I need to resort to live view in
difficult focusing situation I can generally see the plane of focus
pretty easily on a big screen like that, especially with a fast lens.

The plastic body might be a bit more rugged. My k-5 has survived a
fall off a tripod though and thankfully only the bottom plate really
scuffed, but the mount ring ended up bent. I'm also a bigger fan of
the k-5's classic looks. I bought a k-7 a year ago and jumped on a k-5
as soon as I could. Everything just works so much better than the k-7.
What else. There's no AF selector switch on the k-30 too. That's
probably about it. I like the mode dial on the left like the k-5 has
so there's that too, but that wouldn't be a deal breaker. One argument
for video in the k-5's favor is that it uses SR whereas the k-30 I
believe uses a digital SR in processing that causes more wobble and
shutter jello. I find the AF in the k-5 perfectly fine personally. It
does seem to fail under tungsten and I believe the k-30 addresses that
better. If I get a consistent shift I can usually just adjust the
focus in the menu. Problem with that though is that I sometimes forget
to turn it off... ;)

I've tested and beat up this camera pretty thoroughly and it still
takes great pictures. I've had the rear LCD screen pop off after the
first fall and slide across asphalt and I just put it back on. The
adhesive still seemed pretty ok and I've used it in the rain since
then without any leaking. The cover is nice and scratched though. One
of these days I'll order a new one. I have a lot of dust on the screen
now too. Oh well. It still takes great pictures, especially when
paired with sharp glass. I'm going to say get the k-5.

On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Aahz Maruch  wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
>>
>> I'm leaning toward a K30.  But I'm also curious ... would you prefer a
>> good used K5 over a K30?  Why or why not?  I'd like the extra 2 bits
>> of depth, but even then is it that critical?
>
> You must have missed my post a few weeks ago, I really disliked the feel
> of the K-30.  The grip is physically a bit uncomfortable for me, and the
> controls aren't as nice as the K-5.  So even aside from the better
> performance from the K-5, I'd rather have that.
>
> Have you used a K-30?  (Doesn't take long, I made my decision less than
> fifteen minutes after handling one, after trying out both a K-5 and
> Larry's K-x.)
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RE: FS Friday: Pentax 645D with AF 55mm f2.8 SDM lens

[Steve Sharpe]

I bought a winder for my MX off of him years ago.

The MX is dead, but the winder still winds!

At 11:27 PM + 3/23/13, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Hey Chris!

I think I bought something from you once. Maybe an LX?

Nice to see you again!

cheers,
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Re: A few questions about lenses for those that shoot old primes....

[Paul Stenquist]

I shoot outdoors almost exclusively. Back when I first started shooting for 
publications, some forty years ago, I didn't make much effort to take care of 
my equipment. I stored lenses in socks and wiped them with my t-shirt. Some of 
those lenses were ruined. Today, I'm cautious. I still shoot outdoors a lot but 
never touch the glass unless i've brushed it or blown it off first, and then I 
use lens cleaner and a microfiber rag. I use a lens cap whenever I won't be 
shooting for a while. And I don't' drop lenses. Ever. That's because I use a 
neck strap or sling. I find that I don't have to clean the sensor more than 
once every couple of years as long as I keep the camera upside down when 
changing lenses and avoid doing so in really bad environments.  Taking good 
care of equipment is much less expensive than replacing lenses.

Paul
On Mar 23, 2013, at 7:15 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:

> I've done some testing and decided that my FA 28-80 was completely
> decentered to the point of being unusable, especially over 50mm. I'm
> guessing its likely the sloppiness in the barrelbad, bad, bad
> design and construction... I have to stop down to f13 to get a usable
> image that has ok sharpness across the frame. I'm going to retire this
> one. For a basically free lens I can't really complain. Its been on my
> camera pretty full time for a while now and I'm guessing I've just
> knocked it around too much or something. I tend to be pretty hard on
> gear and carry a camera pretty much full time, so it get exposed to
> the elements on a daily basis. What I'm getting at is that I'm about
> to switch to just fully using primes. I may get a 55-300 as that would
> be useful and I think I still want a 16-45 for city walk around shots
> and street.
> 
> I have a 12-24 that I should be fixing soon, and hopefully won't need
> sent off for realignment. I got the aperture on my M 28mm 3.5 working
> again and am finding it a joy to use. It still needs sent off for a
> serious cleaning, but even with some dust and a bit of haze it is
> still giving nice sharp contrasty images stopped down. I think I might
> find another nice copy since they go for so cheap. I have an A50 1.7
> that is razor sharp and an M 50 1.4 that is right up there with it,
> but I prefer the contrasty rendering of the A lens for landscape
> personally. If I could get an 18 and a 24mm prime for a reasonable
> price, I could have an all prime setup with my 12-24 for wide angles.
> Unfortunately 18 and 24mm lenses aren't plentiful or cheap for pentax.
> So I will have to use a zoom to fill in some gaps there until I can
> get rich and afford a 21 ltd.
> 
> Ok, sorry this is turning into a long ramble. My question is that how
> do I deal with constant dust accumulating in my primes? Is this
> something that's just to be expected and I should look at sending
> lenses out every few years for cleanings? I have a nice tamron 60-300
> sp that I eventually retired due to it becoming a dust pump and it has
> loads of internal dust just after using it to shoot flowers for a few
> months. Maybe the seals aren't very good in the lens anymore...too
> bad, it was a sharp zoom that is unlikely worth the cost of cleaning.
> I try to keep just keep my normal walk around lenses down to a minimum
> for this reason. Hence why I was using the cheap fa 28-80 for a while
> because I rather dislike the old 18-55 lens I have.
> 
> I'll just be down to a 28mm and a 50mm for a while it looks like, so
> I'm trying to think about how I can better take care of my lenses or
> maybe if I should just start accepting that they are going to get
> dirty with constant use. I know a lot of you shoot in the outdoors and
> I hate lens swapping outside in the dusty air, but when you shoot
> outside all the time its kind of unavoidable. Especially with primes.
> I use a rocket blower a lot and wet clean the sensor as needed. My
> lack of a gear budget at the moment is really crimping my style. I
> seriously need to get some focal lengths available again. :(
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RE: FS Friday: Pentax 645D with AF 55mm f2.8 SDM lens

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Hey Chris!

I think I bought something from you once. Maybe an LX?

Nice to see you again!

cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Chris Brogden 
Sent: March 22, 2013 3/22/13
To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
Subject: FS Friday: Pentax 645D with AF 55mm f2.8 SDM lens

Hi, everyone.  Old-timers may remember me from back in the day when Pentax
ran the list and the grass was at least +3 saturation greener.  At any rate,
it's good to see a lot of familiar names.  As some of you know, I manage a
Don's Photo store in sunny Winnipeg, Manitoba (motto: "If you can force your
door open, it's not a snow day").  We're a friendly, family-owned
independent company with 8 stores in Canada.  The one in south Winnipeg has
a good-looking manager who's shot Pentax his whole life, starting with an
S3.  :)  I got into medium format when Bill Casselberry (Photography on the
Oregon Coast) mailed me a few slides he had shot.  The tonal range and
beautiful colours blew me away, and it wasn't long before I got my own 67II.

To the point: we brought in several 645D bodies from Pentax, and have sold
all of them except for our last two shelf models.  These have been taken out
of the box to show customers at the counter level, but have not left the
store.  They have less than 800 actuations on them.  We're selling them as
'new' open box items, which means they come with the full 1-year Pentax
warranty (2 years if  you register it with Pentax online), and are eligible
for our Exceptional Service Plan on new equipment, which can add more time
to Pentax's coverage.  To make it easy, we handle all warranty claims for
you.  Anyone who's bought gear from us before knows that we're honest, fair,
and take care of any problems for you.  Because these are open-box cameras,
the price is ridiculously low, so I wanted to let the PDML group know in
case anyone's had their eye on one but was waiting for the price to drop.

A look at PhotoPrice shows the 645D body selling for around $8800 in both
Canada and the US:

http://www.photoprice.ca/product/03348/Pentax-645D-price.html

That's the body alone, no lens.  By the time you add an AF 55mm f2.8, you're
up around the $10k range.

We're selling our last two 645D kits for $7225 CAN... and that includes the
AF 55mm 2.8 SDM lens!  No charge for shipping anywhere within Canada; email
me with your zip code for a quote on US shipping.  You're not going to find
a better price, so if you were considering bypassing APS-C and full-frame
sensors and stepping up to medium format, let me know.  You can reach me by
email at cbrog...@donsphoto.ca or phone at (204) 254-9075.


Cheers,

Chris

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A few questions about lenses for those that shoot old primes....

[Zos Xavius]

I've done some testing and decided that my FA 28-80 was completely
decentered to the point of being unusable, especially over 50mm. I'm
guessing its likely the sloppiness in the barrelbad, bad, bad
design and construction... I have to stop down to f13 to get a usable
image that has ok sharpness across the frame. I'm going to retire this
one. For a basically free lens I can't really complain. Its been on my
camera pretty full time for a while now and I'm guessing I've just
knocked it around too much or something. I tend to be pretty hard on
gear and carry a camera pretty much full time, so it get exposed to
the elements on a daily basis. What I'm getting at is that I'm about
to switch to just fully using primes. I may get a 55-300 as that would
be useful and I think I still want a 16-45 for city walk around shots
and street.

I have a 12-24 that I should be fixing soon, and hopefully won't need
sent off for realignment. I got the aperture on my M 28mm 3.5 working
again and am finding it a joy to use. It still needs sent off for a
serious cleaning, but even with some dust and a bit of haze it is
still giving nice sharp contrasty images stopped down. I think I might
find another nice copy since they go for so cheap. I have an A50 1.7
that is razor sharp and an M 50 1.4 that is right up there with it,
but I prefer the contrasty rendering of the A lens for landscape
personally. If I could get an 18 and a 24mm prime for a reasonable
price, I could have an all prime setup with my 12-24 for wide angles.
Unfortunately 18 and 24mm lenses aren't plentiful or cheap for pentax.
So I will have to use a zoom to fill in some gaps there until I can
get rich and afford a 21 ltd.

Ok, sorry this is turning into a long ramble. My question is that how
do I deal with constant dust accumulating in my primes? Is this
something that's just to be expected and I should look at sending
lenses out every few years for cleanings? I have a nice tamron 60-300
sp that I eventually retired due to it becoming a dust pump and it has
loads of internal dust just after using it to shoot flowers for a few
months. Maybe the seals aren't very good in the lens anymore...too
bad, it was a sharp zoom that is unlikely worth the cost of cleaning.
I try to keep just keep my normal walk around lenses down to a minimum
for this reason. Hence why I was using the cheap fa 28-80 for a while
because I rather dislike the old 18-55 lens I have.

I'll just be down to a 28mm and a 50mm for a while it looks like, so
I'm trying to think about how I can better take care of my lenses or
maybe if I should just start accepting that they are going to get
dirty with constant use. I know a lot of you shoot in the outdoors and
I hate lens swapping outside in the dusty air, but when you shoot
outside all the time its kind of unavoidable. Especially with primes.
I use a rocket blower a lot and wet clean the sensor as needed. My
lack of a gear budget at the moment is really crimping my style. I
seriously need to get some focal lengths available again. :(

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Re: considering upgrading

[Aahz Maruch]

On Sat, Mar 23, 2013, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
>
> I'm leaning toward a K30.  But I'm also curious ... would you prefer a
> good used K5 over a K30?  Why or why not?  I'd like the extra 2 bits
> of depth, but even then is it that critical?

You must have missed my post a few weeks ago, I really disliked the feel
of the K-30.  The grip is physically a bit uncomfortable for me, and the
controls aren't as nice as the K-5.  So even aside from the better
performance from the K-5, I'd rather have that.

Have you used a K-30?  (Doesn't take long, I made my decision less than
fifteen minutes after handling one, after trying out both a K-5 and
Larry's K-x.)
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considering upgrading

[Collin Brendemuehl]

I'm leaning toward a K30.
But I'm also curious ... would you prefer a good used K5 over a K30?  Why or
why not?
I'd like the extra 2 bits of depth, but even then is it that critical?


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Re: Book submissions

[John Sessoms]

It was new news to me ...

I'd heard of assigning numbers to letters before and summing them to get
the "value" of a word ... Number of the Beast & all that.

I'd just never heard it applied to why 42 is the answer to "life, the
universe & everything" before. Didn't realize you had to translate into
Hebrew first either.

And yes, I understand that Adams was a British writer and MATHS doesn't
add up to 42.

I think it's clever that MATH does (in American English).

Plus, I don't think either MATH or MATHS adds up to 42 if you have to
translate them into Hebrew before summing them. Nor French, German,
Russian, Latin, Greek or Chinese.

From: Boris Liberman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gematria

Old news...

:-)

On 3/23/2013 5:14 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Darren Addy

I'm Darren. I'm interested in everything in the universe, on a
rotating basis. My motto is "Question Reality" and my emergency
back-up motto is "Reality is for people who lack imagination". My goal
in life is to finish something I have started.


A friend recently pointed out something that I'd never seen before
regarding the meaning of Life, The Universe & Everything. People always
want to know why 42?

He said the answer is MATH.

M = 13 + A = 1 + T = 20 + H = 8. Sum them all together and you get 42.

I thought that was rather clever.



PS: That Number of the Beast thingy? It apparently got screwed up in
translation somewhere along the way and depending on whose argument you
accept the "real" number should be either 616 or 661.


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Book submissions

[luiz felipe]

well, Ronaldo is my friend and neighbor and will probably de-lurk when 
he discovers he's being called - I'll just wait to see how long it takes 
):-). FTR, he posted a pic into PUG (song titles) and my name will 
appear into his book submission's EXIF since he used my Kr to shoot it. 
he uses Canon by default and we swap gear now and then (I'm working on 
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RE: FS Friday: Pentax 645D with AF 55mm f2.8 SDM lens

[Chris Brogden]

Is that better than not being remembered at all?  I'm not sure.  :)

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Don's Photo St. Vital
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(Right across the street from St. Vital Centre)
Winnipeg, MB   R2M 5M3
Ph: (204) 254-9075
Fax: (204) 253-7173
 

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:14 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: FS Friday: Pentax 645D with AF 55mm f2.8 SDM lens

On 22/03/2013 9:26 AM, Chris Brogden wrote:
> Hi, everyone.  Old-timers may remember me from back in the day when 
> Pentax ran the list and the grass was at least +3 saturation greener.
I remember you as Ronaldo Bomfim.

bill

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PESO - Went to Smile School

[Paul Stenquist]

Had some fun with the SMC Pentax 85/1.8 today. Hadn't used it in years. This 
pic is f4, 1/30th, ISO 5000

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17074373&size=lg
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Re: Anyone using Triggertrap?

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Stan Halpin :

The default/home screen shows Canon. You need to make a menu choice  
on camera brand to see Pentax models and the requisite connector  
cable.



Yeah, but their camera selection system is borked.  For example, if  
you select Pentax Q, you don't see a message telling you that the  
camera isn't supported (it isn't - it doesn't have a wired remote  
port), you still see the default screen with a list of cables.


Even more confusing, if you'd previously checked the Pentax K-5 (say),  
which is supported, and then checked Pentax Q, the screen remains  
unchanged, telling you that the Q is supported and can use the same  
cable as the K-5.


All a bit strange but it doesn't get away from the fact that  
Triggertrap looks very useful.




Cheers

Brian

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stan

On Mar 23, 2013, at 11:01 AM, John Sessoms wrote:


From: Brian Walters

G'day all

Triggertrap is a Smartphone app that, combined with a dongle that
connects your phone to the remote port of your camera, turns your
phone into a sophisticated intervalometer.  It looks as if it would be
useful for things like star trails.

Anyone tried it?

Details here:

https://triggertrap.com/products/triggertrap-mobile/


Are any Pentax cameras actually supported?

I see they have a dongle that fits Canon "along with a load of  
other cameras that accept a 2.5mm socket", but I'm leery that they  
don't specifically mention Pentax.


Moot point for me, since I'm still using a dumb phone & already  
have a "sophisticated intervalometer" that I bought just before  
making my trip out west in January.


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Re: Anyone using Triggertrap?

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Toine :


I got the dongle and cable last week. Tested it and it works as
advertised. I didn't use it (star trails is my goal and the weather
doesn't help).

You need the version with the red cable it works with all smartphone
including volume limited versions.



Thanks Toine - hope we'll see some of your star trails when the  
weather clears...



Cheers

Brian

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Toine

On 22 March 2013 22:50, Brian Walters  wrote:

G'day all

Triggertrap is a Smartphone app that, combined with a dongle that connects
your phone to the remote port of your camera, turns your phone into a
sophisticated intervalometer.  It looks as if it would be useful for things
like star trails.

Anyone tried it?

Details here:

https://triggertrap.com/products/triggertrap-mobile/


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RE: OT GESO - Ellen Day

[Bob W]

> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bill
> 
> On 23/03/2013 5:20 AM, Derby Chang wrote:
> >
> > I completely missed the fact Ellen DeGeneres was doing a show in the
> > botanic gardens today. I was wondering why there were so many Ellen
> > t-shirts walking around. Good day for it
> >
> > http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/03/ellenday/index.html
> >
> Derby, are there any fat and ugly, or even plain looking women where
> you live?
> 

Don't fancy your's much:


But I think she might be a lesbian, anyway.

B


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Re: OT GESO - Ellen Day

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

They have laws in Australia...

(don't seem to apply to men though)

;-)

Cheers,
frank 

--- Original Message ---

From: Bill 
Sent: March 23, 2013 3/23/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: OT GESO - Ellen Day

On 23/03/2013 5:20 AM, Derby Chang wrote:
>
> I completely missed the fact Ellen DeGeneres was doing a show in the 
> botanic gardens today. I was wondering why there were so many Ellen 
> t-shirts walking around. Good day for it
>
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/03/ellenday/index.html
>
Derby, are there any fat and ugly, or even plain looking women where you 
live?

bill

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Re: Book submissions

[Doug Brewer]

On 3/22/13 2:40 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

On 3/22/13 2:22 PM, Steffen Zahn wrote:

Maybe you should add a list of names to your request. My mind reading
skills are not up to the task.

Steffen Zahn


aw, here I was trying to be all subtle, and you want me to name and
shame. On the other hand, I bet a good percentage of the list doesn't
know who the hell I am. Okay, fair enough.

Ronaldo Bomfim, come on down. Say hello to the rest of the class.

If we run into any more names we don't recognize, we'll run up another
flag.



Matthew Hunt has gone and pointed out that Mr. Bomfim introduced himself 
to the list last year. Thanks for doing what I was too lazy to do myself.


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Re: OT GESO - Ellen Day

[Mark Roberts]

Bill wrote:

>On 23/03/2013 5:20 AM, Derby Chang wrote:
>>
>> I completely missed the fact Ellen DeGeneres was doing a show in the 
>> botanic gardens today. I was wondering why there were so many Ellen 
>> t-shirts walking around. Good day for it
>>
>> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/03/ellenday/index.html
>>
>Derby, are there any fat and ugly, or even plain looking women where you 
>live?

Wherever Derby Chang goes *all* the women are above average.
 
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Re: OT GESO - Ellen Day

[Bill]

On 23/03/2013 5:20 AM, Derby Chang wrote:


I completely missed the fact Ellen DeGeneres was doing a show in the 
botanic gardens today. I was wondering why there were so many Ellen 
t-shirts walking around. Good day for it


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/03/ellenday/index.html

Derby, are there any fat and ugly, or even plain looking women where you 
live?


bill

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Re: FS Friday: Pentax 645D with AF 55mm f2.8 SDM lens

[Bill]

On 22/03/2013 9:26 AM, Chris Brogden wrote:

Hi, everyone.  Old-timers may remember me from back in the day when Pentax
ran the list and the grass was at least +3 saturation greener.

I remember you as Ronaldo Bomfim.

bill

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Re: Book submissions

[Bill]

On 23/03/2013 4:30 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
I'm Boris. I speak 3 languages, read 2 languages and write 1 
language... Notably, I usually don't get a chance to write in my 
native language. I expect to built a frankencam junior real soon...


Oh, and I live in the country that president Obama just left a day ago...

He did leave your country intact then?

bill


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RE: The George Eastman House now has a tumblr account

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Wonderful! Thanks for the link.

Cheers,
frank

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To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: The George Eastman House now has a tumblr account

Some interesting photos from their archives
http://eastmanhouse.tumblr.com/
 
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[Jack Davis]

What a generous response. I'm grateful, Frank. Thanks!

Jack


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Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: PESO: Township Shed - B&W

I know I wanted to comment on the colour version of this one because I liked it 
a great deal. I don't remember if I ever got around to it.

When I saw this post I thought, "Oh no, a black and white conversion will never 
eclipse the original!"

But I was wrong.

Your conversion is brilliant, Jack! That dark sky and the beautiful greys of 
that metal shed really make this special!

A wonderful photo just got.better...

Cheers,
frank

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From: Jack Davis 
Sent: March 23, 2013 3/23/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: PESO: Township Shed - B&W

PSE10, "convert to B&W".
Sky was a deep blue and I really prefer this sky for contrast with the shed. 
Chose 
"dramatic landscape" conversion.

Thanks for commenting, Aahz.
Jack

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Subject: Re: PESO: Township Shed - B&W

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013, Jack Davis wrote:
>
> I believe it was Paul (Thanks) who suggested a B&W be done of this
> image.  I, too, felt I should be taking advantage of the lighting and
> that a B&W might be worth doing.  Glad for the suggestion. Believe I
> prefer it.
>
> B&W: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=686
>
> Color: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=687

Overall I prefer B&W, too, but the sky looks a bit wrong with the black
top.  What method of conversion did you use?
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Re: Book submissions

[Boris Liberman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gematria

Old news...

:-)

On 3/23/2013 5:14 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Darren Addy

I'm Darren. I'm interested in everything in the universe, on a
rotating basis. My motto is "Question Reality" and my emergency
back-up motto is "Reality is for people who lack imagination". My goal
in life is to finish something I have started.


A friend recently pointed out something that I'd never seen before
regarding the meaning of Life, The Universe & Everything. People always
want to know why 42?

He said the answer is MATH.

M = 13 + A = 1 + T = 20 + H = 8. Sum them all together and you get 42.

I thought that was rather clever.




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Re: PESO - No Sky, No Land (bike messenger content)

[Stan Halpin]

Nice one.  A great time to be on the streets - minimal traffic, not many 
pedestrians wandering across in front of you . . .
I would have preferred a shot taken .25 seconds earlier so that there was 
separation from the woman in the background,  but obviously the rider was not 
waiting around for you to compose the shot.

stan

On Mar 23, 2013, at 10:32 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

> no sky
> no land -- just
> snow falling
> 
> (KAJIWARA Hashin)
> 
> http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/03/blog-post_22.html?m=1 
> 
> Looking back on the few shots I got during the largest snowfall of this past 
> winter I missed this one first time through.
> 
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
> 
> Cheers,
> frank
> 
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> spontaneity." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Re: FS Friday: Pentax A 645 200mm f/4

[mike wilson]

On 22/03/2013 22:36, Mark Roberts wrote:

For sale: Pentax A 645 200mm f/4 (for the 645 medium format cameras,
though it can obviously be used with K-mount cameras if you have an
adapter).  LN- condition. With original box and packing.
$200.00 plus shipping

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/645/200_4-1.jpg
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/645/200_4-2.jpg
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/645/200_4-3.jpg



Just bought yourself a D?

I was quivering before Christmas but, luckily, the retail chain went 
into receivership before I could pull the trigger.

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RE: Book submissions

[John Sessoms]

From: "Bob W"

From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms

From: Darren Addy

I'm Darren. I'm interested in everything in the universe, on a
rotating basis. My motto is "Question Reality" and my emergency
back-up motto is "Reality is for people who lack imagination". My

goal

in life is to finish something I have started.


A friend recently pointed out something that I'd never seen before
regarding the meaning of Life, The Universe & Everything. People always
want to know why 42?

He said the answer is MATH.

M = 13 + A = 1 + T = 20 + H = 8. Sum them all together and you get 42.

I thought that was rather clever.



He was an English writer, and we don't say math, we say maths.

B (hex 42)


Maths doesn't add up to 42, so it's not so clever.

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[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

I know I wanted to comment on the colour version of this one because I liked it 
a great deal. I don't remember if I ever got around to it.

When I saw this post I thought, "Oh no, a black and white conversion will never 
eclipse the original!"

But I was wrong.

Your conversion is brilliant, Jack! That dark sky and the beautiful greys of 
that metal shed really make this special!

A wonderful photo just got.better...

Cheers,
frank

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From: Jack Davis 
Sent: March 23, 2013 3/23/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: PESO: Township Shed - B&W

PSE10, "convert to B&W".
Sky was a deep blue and I really prefer this sky for contrast with the shed. 
Chose 
"dramatic landscape" conversion.

Thanks for commenting, Aahz.
Jack

- Original Message -
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Subject: Re: PESO: Township Shed - B&W

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013, Jack Davis wrote:
>
> I believe it was Paul (Thanks) who suggested a B&W be done of this
> image.  I, too, felt I should be taking advantage of the lighting and
> that a B&W might be worth doing.  Glad for the suggestion. Believe I
> prefer it.
>
> B&W: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=686
>
> Color: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=687

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[Jack Davis]

PSE10, "convert to B&W".
Sky was a deep blue and I really prefer this sky for contrast with the shed. 
Chose 
"dramatic landscape" conversion.

Thanks for commenting, Aahz.
Jack

- Original Message -
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Subject: Re: PESO: Township Shed - B&W

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013, Jack Davis wrote:
>
> I believe it was Paul (Thanks) who suggested a B&W be done of this
> image.  I, too, felt I should be taking advantage of the lighting and
> that a B&W might be worth doing.  Glad for the suggestion. Believe I
> prefer it.
>
> B&W: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=686
>
> Color: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=687

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Re: Anyone using Triggertrap?

[Stan Halpin]

The default/home screen shows Canon. You need to make a menu choice on camera 
brand to see Pentax models and the requisite connector cable.

stan

On Mar 23, 2013, at 11:01 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: Brian Walters
>> G'day all
>> 
>> Triggertrap is a Smartphone app that, combined with a dongle that
>> connects your phone to the remote port of your camera, turns your
>> phone into a sophisticated intervalometer.  It looks as if it would be
>> useful for things like star trails.
>> 
>> Anyone tried it?
>> 
>> Details here:
>> 
>> https://triggertrap.com/products/triggertrap-mobile/
> 
> Are any Pentax cameras actually supported?
> 
> I see they have a dongle that fits Canon "along with a load of other cameras 
> that accept a 2.5mm socket", but I'm leery that they don't specifically 
> mention Pentax.
> 
> Moot point for me, since I'm still using a dumb phone & already have a 
> "sophisticated intervalometer" that I bought just before making my trip out 
> west in January.
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Re: Book submissions

[John Francis]

On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 11:14:44AM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
> From: Darren Addy
> >I'm Darren. I'm interested in everything in the universe, on a
> >rotating basis. My motto is "Question Reality" and my emergency
> >back-up motto is "Reality is for people who lack imagination". My goal
> >in life is to finish something I have started.
> 
> A friend recently pointed out something that I'd never seen before
> regarding the meaning of Life, The Universe & Everything. People
> always want to know why 42?
> 
> He said the answer is MATH.
> 
> M = 13 + A = 1 + T = 20 + H = 8. Sum them all together and you get 42.
> 
> I thought that was rather clever.

Douglas Adams, though, would get a different answer (63).

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Re: Anyone using Triggertrap?

[Toine]

You need the CL-E3 Connector for Pentax DSLRs

On 23 March 2013 16:01, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: Brian Walters
>
>> G'day all
>>
>> Triggertrap is a Smartphone app that, combined with a dongle that
>> connects your phone to the remote port of your camera, turns your
>> phone into a sophisticated intervalometer.  It looks as if it would be
>> useful for things like star trails.
>>
>> Anyone tried it?
>>
>> Details here:
>>
>> https://triggertrap.com/products/triggertrap-mobile/
>
>
> Are any Pentax cameras actually supported?
>
> I see they have a dongle that fits Canon "along with a load of other cameras
> that accept a 2.5mm socket", but I'm leery that they don't specifically
> mention Pentax.
>
> Moot point for me, since I'm still using a dumb phone & already have a
> "sophisticated intervalometer" that I bought just before making my trip out
> west in January.
>
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[Aahz Maruch]

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013, Jack Davis wrote:
>
> I believe it was Paul (Thanks) who suggested a B&W be done of this
> image.  I, too, felt I should be taking advantage of the lighting and
> that a B&W might be worth doing.  Glad for the suggestion. Believe I
> prefer it.
>
> B&W: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=686
>
> Color: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=687

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Re: PESO - No Sky, No Land (bike messenger content)

[Bruce Walker]

I'm there; I can feel the effort he's making. Really good one, Frank.

On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 10:32 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
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> no sky
> no land -- just
> snow falling
>
> (KAJIWARA Hashin)
>
> http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/03/blog-post_22.html?m=1
>
> Looking back on the few shots I got during the largest snowfall of this past 
> winter I missed this one first time through.
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: OT GESO - Ellen Day

[Bruce Walker]

Lots of smile-worthy moments there, Derby. Was #11 the odd man out? Is
#14 leafing through your book?

On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:
>
> I completely missed the fact Ellen DeGeneres was doing a show in the botanic
> gardens today. I was wondering why there were so many Ellen t-shirts walking
> around. Good day for it
>
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/03/ellenday/index.html
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Re: PESO - Louise and Tessa

[Bruce Walker]

Thanks, Derby. Thanks, Frank!

On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:
> Old world glam. I like it. Good paw moment
>
>
>
> On 23/03/2013 4:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> Some wishful thinking. I took this late May last year, and I'm eagerly
>> looking forward to summer again. My wife and our doggy ...
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8579483073/lightbox/
>>
>> K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 50mm/f:4, 1/125th, ISO 100.
>> Bare AF540 camera-left, cheapo radio trigger.
>> Lr & Ps.
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Re: Book submissions

[Bruce Walker]

Vell, Bruce's just zis guy, you know?

On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> Hi!  I'm Christine.  I'm a revolutionary moderate feverishly involved in 
> intense grassroots organizing about not much in particular.
>
>
>
> On Mar 22, 2013, at 1:46 PM, Walt  wrote:
>
>> On 3/22/2013 1:40 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:
>>> On 3/22/13 2:22 PM, Steffen Zahn wrote:
 Maybe you should add a list of names to your request. My mind reading 
 skills are not up to the task.

 Steffen Zahn
>>>
>>> aw, here I was trying to be all subtle, and you want me to name and shame. 
>>> On the other hand, I bet a good percentage of the list doesn't know who the 
>>> hell I am. Okay, fair enough.
>>>
>>> Ronaldo Bomfim, come on down. Say hello to the rest of the class.
>>>
>>> If we run into any more names we don't recognize, we'll run up another flag.
>> I'm Walt.
>>
>> I like piña coladas and getting caught in the rain.
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RE: Book submissions

[Bob W]

> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms
> 
> From: Darren Addy
> > I'm Darren. I'm interested in everything in the universe, on a
> > rotating basis. My motto is "Question Reality" and my emergency
> > back-up motto is "Reality is for people who lack imagination". My
> goal
> > in life is to finish something I have started.
> 
> A friend recently pointed out something that I'd never seen before
> regarding the meaning of Life, The Universe & Everything. People always
> want to know why 42?
> 
> He said the answer is MATH.
> 
> M = 13 + A = 1 + T = 20 + H = 8. Sum them all together and you get 42.
> 
> I thought that was rather clever.
> 

He was an English writer, and we don't say math, we say maths.

B (hex 42)




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RE: Book submissions

[Bob W]

> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms
> 
> From: Christine Aguila
> > Hi!  I'm Christine.  I'm a revolutionary moderate feverishly involved
> > in intense grassroots organizing about not much in particular.
> >
> 
> Are we doing this again?
> 
> I'm John. I'm retired in North Carolina. I used to be in the National
> Guard.
> 

I'm Bob. When I was born my parents left me to die on the outskirts of our
village. I was adopted by a family of Northern Savannah penguins and raised
as one of their own until I was old enough to bring down a water buffalo by
myself. I left the nest and founded a small city state which for 2 millennia
dominated the coast around Hartlepool and points north, but as my empire
grew increasingly decadent I abandoned it all for a new life of mendicant
preaching. About two weeks ago I was surprised to be elected to the Holy See
in what I think must be a case of mistaken identity, but it's too late to do
anything about it now. Still, all those nuns smelling of fish make me feel
right back at home with my adoptive parents.

Ego te absolvo a peccatis tuis in nomine Larri, Curli et Moebii Sancti.




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RE: OT GESO - Ellen Day

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

LOVE number five. The cascading letters in that sculpture mimic her body 
position. Also like the choice to focus on the sculpture.

Wonderful shot!

Rest of the gallery up to your usual high standards.

Cheers,
frank

--- Original Message ---

From: Derby Chang 
Sent: March 23, 2013 3/23/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: OT GESO - Ellen Day


I completely missed the fact Ellen DeGeneres was doing a show in the 
botanic gardens today. I was wondering why there were so many Ellen 
t-shirts walking around. Good day for it

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/03/ellenday/index.html

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RE: OT: American cities a century ago (34 photos)

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Amazing to me that there are so few bicycles. I counted three, although it 
looks like the one in Washington was a delivery bike, a proto-bike messenger!

Ten or twenty years before these were taken it was the bicycle craze. The 
streets would have been filled with horse-drawn vehicles and bikes. Didn't take 
long for the car to all but eliminate the bike as an urban vehicle. It's only 
taken a hundred years but we're clawing our way back.  ;-)

Interesting series, Dan!

cheers,
frank

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From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: March 20, 2013 3/20/13
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: OT: American cities a century ago (34 photos)

http://myscienceacademy.org/2013/01/09/american-cities-a-century-ago-34-photos/
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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RE: PESO: Shark !

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

I was kind of hoping for an actual shark on an actual beach or in the actual 
ocean.

But an actual aquarium is pretty cool, too.

;-)

Good shot, Dan!

cheers,
frank

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From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
Sent: March 21, 2013 3/21/13
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Subject: PESO: Shark !

>From the Maui Ocean Center:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17067454

Comments are invited.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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Re: Book submissions

[John Sessoms]

From: Darren Addy

I'm Darren. I'm interested in everything in the universe, on a
rotating basis. My motto is "Question Reality" and my emergency
back-up motto is "Reality is for people who lack imagination". My goal
in life is to finish something I have started.


A friend recently pointed out something that I'd never seen before 
regarding the meaning of Life, The Universe & Everything. People always 
want to know why 42?


He said the answer is MATH.

M = 13 + A = 1 + T = 20 + H = 8. Sum them all together and you get 42.

I thought that was rather clever.

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Re: OT: Knarfian inspiration, no doubt

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Knever!

cheer
knarf

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Sent: March 21, 2013 3/21/13
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Subject: Re: OT: Knarfian inspiration, no doubt

Walt wrote:

>I think Frank may have a legitimate I-P claim here.
>
>http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=83474
>
>Yes, it's a pale imitation, but the Canadian-Hat motif is unmistakable.

Knarf does knudity?

 
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RE: Geso the Iowa Mountains

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Beautiful photos, Don!

Cheers,
frank

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From: Don Guthrie 
Sent: March 22, 2013 3/22/13
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Geso the Iowa Mountains

Everyone knows IA is flatland & there are no mountains. However we do 
have some beautiful river valleys. Some, like this one, lined with 
limestone.  Wonderful snow without human footprints make for a lovely 
non farm gallery. C&C welcomed.



http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEqPCow

or

http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157633054510914/

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RE: Anyone using Triggertrap?

[John Sessoms]

From: Brian Walters

G'day all

Triggertrap is a Smartphone app that, combined with a dongle that
connects your phone to the remote port of your camera, turns your
phone into a sophisticated intervalometer.  It looks as if it would be
useful for things like star trails.

Anyone tried it?

Details here:

https://triggertrap.com/products/triggertrap-mobile/


Are any Pentax cameras actually supported?

I see they have a dongle that fits Canon "along with a load of other 
cameras that accept a 2.5mm socket", but I'm leery that they don't 
specifically mention Pentax.


Moot point for me, since I'm still using a dumb phone & already have a 
"sophisticated intervalometer" that I bought just before making my trip 
out west in January.


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Re: Book submissions

[John Sessoms]

From: Christine Aguila

Hi!  I'm Christine.  I'm a revolutionary moderate feverishly involved
in intense grassroots organizing about not much in particular.



Are we doing this again?

I'm John. I'm retired in North Carolina. I used to be in the National 
Guard.


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Re: A Classic American Race Car

[John Sessoms]

From: Paul Stenquist

The Times "pay" window seems somewhat arbitrary at times in regard to
when it decides to close. You may have reached the free-read count.
Sorry about that. It's unfortunate that newspapers have to charge for
web access, but that seems to be the only way to make things work
financially.

Paul


Doubly unfortunate if that's what it is. The NY Times screwed me over 
the first time they implemented paid access and I refuse to be taken by 
them again.


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PESO - No Sky, No Land (bike messenger content)

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

no sky
no land -- just
snow falling

(KAJIWARA Hashin)

http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/03/blog-post_22.html?m=1 

Looking back on the few shots I got during the largest snowfall of this past 
winter I missed this one first time through.

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank

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Re: OT: American cities a century ago (34 photos)

[Aahz Maruch]

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
> http://myscienceacademy.org/2013/01/09/american-cities-a-century-ago-34-photos/

What I find interesting is how empty most streets are.
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Re: OT: Canon, Canon everywhere

[David J Brooks]

On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Aahz Maruch  wrote:
> Today my LDR and I went to http://www.filoli.org/ and every single DSLR
> I could positively identify (about ten or fifteen) was a Canon.  Weird,
> usually at least a few are Nikons (and of course I was hoping to see a
> Pentax or two).

Our local camera club is has grown from 8 members to 40 as of today.
I'd say 60% are Canon, 40% Nikon, and my Pentax, although i do have a
Canon and several Nikon;s so i fit the mix no maytter what:-)

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Re: GESO: Spring Visitors

[Stan Halpin]

Thanks Dan! 

stan

On Mar 21, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> Excellent gallery.  The Hooded Merganser is a gem.
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Stan Halpin 
> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been sidetracked from finishing up my Caribbean photos by some lovely
>> birds arriving from the south. Here are three of the more colorful . . .
>> 
>> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p764918074
>> 
>> Enjoy!
>> 
>> stan
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Re: PESO - Cadillac Man

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Agreed, the light is very harsh. I tried to tone it down in PS and could quite 
frankly do a better job but this was a quick and dirty rendering just to get it 
posted asap.

Didn't take any time to square it up. Was hobbling by and I saw the gentleman 
there so I quick lifted camera to eye and shot. By then I'd already missed his 
best pose and he quickly moved on and that was that.

Thanks for the kind words and thanks to all who looked and commented.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Derby Chang 
Sent: March 23, 2013 3/23/13
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Subject: Re: PESO - Cadillac Man


The light is a bit harsh for me, but the somposition and details are 
delicious to look at. Did you take long to square up the shot? Very 
formal-looking.



On 19/03/2013 1:25 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
> First "streetie" (as Derby calls 'em) since the accident. And the only one 
> from yesterday. So hard to react and shoot when you one can't walk with 
> camera in hand. Gotta stop, grab camera, lift to eye, compose, shoot. Takes 
> too long.
>
> But I got this one!
>
>   http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/03/cadillac-man.html?m=1
>
> Outside the venerable Cadillac Lounge in Toronto's Parkdale neighbourhood.
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
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> spontaneity." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson


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Re: GESO - This Will Destroy You

[Derby Chang]

Thanks Bruce (and all who looked).

I thought I missed my chance to get any TWDY shots, having a need to do 
some fluid management just before their set started, losing my spot at 
the stage edge. Was happy just to listen to the music for a change. But 
I ended up drifting towards a bench on the side where I could stand up 
and get over the head shots of the audience, who were standing. Friends, 
I tell you, 70s prog rock lives.



On 21/03/2013 5:23 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Brilliant shots, Derby.

I'm impressed that the audience is seated, listening. You must be in a
time-warped part of the world where the seventies never ended.

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:

I envy the folks living in Texas. There sounds like there is such an amazing
scene of post-rock, post-metal. I just leave the planet listening to this
stuff. This Will Destroy You are one of my favourites.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/03/thiswilldestroyyou/index.html

The first support, We Lost The Sea, tragically lost one of their members
earlier this month - he took his own life just as everything looked like it
was falling into place for the group. They played in tribute to him tonight.

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Re: PESO - Louise and Tessa

[Derby Chang]

Old world glam. I like it. Good paw moment


On 23/03/2013 4:16 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Some wishful thinking. I took this late May last year, and I'm eagerly
looking forward to summer again. My wife and our doggy ...

http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8579483073/lightbox/

K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 50mm/f:4, 1/125th, ISO 100.
Bare AF540 camera-left, cheapo radio trigger.
Lr & Ps.

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Re: PESO - Cadillac Man

[Derby Chang]

The light is a bit harsh for me, but the somposition and details are 
delicious to look at. Did you take long to square up the shot? Very 
formal-looking.




On 19/03/2013 1:25 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

First "streetie" (as Derby calls 'em) since the accident. And the only one from 
yesterday. So hard to react and shoot when you one can't walk with camera in hand. Gotta 
stop, grab camera, lift to eye, compose, shoot. Takes too long.

But I got this one!

  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/03/cadillac-man.html?m=1

Outside the venerable Cadillac Lounge in Toronto's Parkdale neighbourhood.

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank

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spontaneity." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson



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OT GESO - Ellen Day

[Derby Chang]

I completely missed the fact Ellen DeGeneres was doing a show in the 
botanic gardens today. I was wondering why there were so many Ellen 
t-shirts walking around. Good day for it


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/03/ellenday/index.html

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Re: Book submissions

[Boris Liberman]

I'm Boris. I speak 3 languages, read 2 languages and write 1 language... 
Notably, I usually don't get a chance to write in my native language. I 
expect to built a frankencam junior real soon...


Oh, and I live in the country that president Obama just left a day ago...


On 3/23/2013 12:11 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

I'm Darren. I'm interested in everything in the universe, on a
rotating basis. My motto is "Question Reality" and my emergency
back-up motto is "Reality is for people who lack imagination". My goal
in life is to finish something I have started.




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Re: Anyone using Triggertrap?

[Toine]

I got the dongle and cable last week. Tested it and it works as
advertised. I didn't use it (star trails is my goal and the weather
doesn't help).

You need the version with the red cable it works with all smartphone
including volume limited versions.

Toine

On 22 March 2013 22:50, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day all
>
> Triggertrap is a Smartphone app that, combined with a dongle that connects
> your phone to the remote port of your camera, turns your phone into a
> sophisticated intervalometer.  It looks as if it would be useful for things
> like star trails.
>
> Anyone tried it?
>
> Details here:
>
> https://triggertrap.com/products/triggertrap-mobile/
>
>
> --
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
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OT GESO, dancing IR

[Larry Colen]

I finally got the chance to borrow a DSLR that has had the IR filter removed.  
It's a Rebel XTi.  Last night I took it to a weekly dance and mostly shot using 
the Canon flash with an IR filter over the flash. It was my first time using 
this rig, so I certainly don't have things dialed in.  His 30/1.8 lens is a bit 
flakey, so I just used the Sigma 17-70.  Towards the end of the evening, I 
tried using my IRED array as a focus assist.

The setup has it's own set of advantages and drawbacks.  I think that a K-01, 
or some other mirrorless camera that has been converted to IR would do a better 
job because you could focus based on what's on the sensor.  Likewise you could 
compose and focus, even with an IR pass/visible block filter on the lens.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157633067710534/

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Re: My AF540 seems to have died

[Zos Xavius]

A fourth time?? I love Metz. My Metz 54 actually died. The bulb blew
up. It happens. I'm thinking I'm just going to fix it rather than
invest in a new flash. I love it actually.

On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> Short form, I've tried with several sets of batteries, ones that work in my 
> K-x and/or another flash, I turn it on, the red "ready" light never comes on. 
> Pressing the "test" button won't get me a flash. All of the control buttons 
> seem to work, the LCD display and the display light work just fine. It seems 
> to do pretty much everything, but emit any sort of light from the strobe.
>
> Last night I was trying to use it as a dumb slave (I was using a friend's 
> Canon IR rig) and I couldn't get any sort of flash out of it.  Tonight, I 
> tried with several other sets of batteries. I do not see myself wasting money 
> by sending it back to Pentax for repair for a fourth time.
>
> I expect that something by Metz may be in my near future.
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My AF540 seems to have died

[Larry Colen]

Short form, I've tried with several sets of batteries, ones that work in my K-x 
and/or another flash, I turn it on, the red "ready" light never comes on. 
Pressing the "test" button won't get me a flash. All of the control buttons 
seem to work, the LCD display and the display light work just fine. It seems to 
do pretty much everything, but emit any sort of light from the strobe.

Last night I was trying to use it as a dumb slave (I was using a friend's Canon 
IR rig) and I couldn't get any sort of flash out of it.  Tonight, I tried with 
several other sets of batteries. I do not see myself wasting money by sending 
it back to Pentax for repair for a fourth time.

I expect that something by Metz may be in my near future.

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