Re: What are the shortcomings of your gear?
On 15/04/2013 9:51 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Judging by the replies to my question, the one major shortcoming that would be addressed by going to full frame is that it would be a larger viewfinder that would make focusing easier. Full frame would also increase the ability to crop a salvageable image out of the origial capture. Not really. A 16mp image from an APS-C camera will be just as cropable as a 16mp image from a 24x36mm camera. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in
No. Don't know you well enough yet to dislike you. When emotions are running high sometimes it's worth while taking a step back and being a bit cautious. M aka DThere are also a lot of cranky old farts on this list. ;-) I am an old fartess, myself. In a message dated 4/15/2013 4:38:21 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, zosxav...@gmail.com writes: I guess an apology wasn't enough. Meh. To each their own I guess. Anyone else want to publicly announce their dislike of me? :/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What are the shortcomings of your gear?
I've been getting a big kick out of this thread. I guess I am not the only one, by far, who is concerned with camera weight. It is very reassuring. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - New and Old
Nice shot, good juxtaposition. Boy, I want to see that place! {Sigh.}
Marnie aka Doe :-)
In a message dated 4/15/2013 7:17:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
rwomer1...@yahoo.com writes:
I'm posting pix from France in no particular order. This is at the
Louvre, again; the new pyramid and one of the old wings.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17164133size=lg
(K-5, DA 16-45)
Comments appreciated!
Rick
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Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in
Terror, the object of terror is terror, to paraphrase Orwell. On 4/16/2013 12:23 AM, John Coyle wrote: So glad to hear our PDML-ers are Ok, but still what a terrible thing to happen. What are these people trying to achieve by killing innocents like this? John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in
On Apr 15, 2013, at 23:09 , eactiv...@aol.com wrote: M aka DThere are also a lot of cranky old farts on this list. ;-) I am an old fartess, myself. Guess I have to go put on my blue t-shirt that states: I resemble that last remark! Joseph McAllister Pentaxian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What are the shortcomings of your gear?
Camera weight, (or mass), is an interesting thing really. You want less when you're carrying it, and more when you're trying to hold it steady for a shot. On 4/16/2013 2:19 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I've been getting a big kick out of this thread. I guess I am not the only one, by far, who is concerned with camera weight. It is very reassuring. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in
On Apr 16, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Wow.. Glad to hear that Christine and her brother and Mark are all safe. Our hearts go out to all the victims and all the survivors. What a terrible day. Yes, what Dan said. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Dad, the Philco and a Swivel Chair - 1959
On Apr 15, 2013, at 7:33 AM, George Sinos wrote: Sometimes the stuff in the background of and old photo is as interesting as the original subject. Just a couple of personal observations. http://george-sinos.squarespace.com/blog/2013/4/13/dad-and-the-philco-1959 The value of that photo, and the stories, far exceed its mere technical qualities. PS Yay Argus C3. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in
Den 16. apr. 2013 kl. 09:47 skrev David Mann dmann...@gmail.com: On Apr 16, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Wow.. Glad to hear that Christine and her brother and Mark are all safe. Our hearts go out to all the victims and all the survivors. What a terrible day. Yes, what Dan said. Agree. And I have to say that this is a nice list that way. Both for careing about the members and for keeping us updated. DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Are the shotcomings really that important?
Two questions: 1 Do people in the C, N, and F forums ever say Pentax did that right or something similar? Do they say that about companies other than their own camera mfr? 2 Do you get the pictures you like with this equipment? If not, why do you use it? Who not get the gear that does the job? (The think I like about the K5, functionally, is that red X on the top. Kr, Kx, K30 need one. That will do what I want. All else is gravy.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are the shotcomings really that important?
On 16 April 2013 22:27, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: Two questions: 1 Do people in the C, N, and F forums ever say Pentax did that right or something similar? Do they say that about companies other than their own camera mfr? I have no idea but all the photogs I know that have top end Canon and Nikon kit seem pretty happy with them. 2 Do you get the pictures you like with this equipment? If not, why do you use it? Who not get the gear that does the job? I get pictures that I like for sure but I get a lot of almost there but not quite pics due to focus issues too. The cost to change systems I currently just can't justify. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What are the shortcomings of your gear?
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013, P. J. Alling wrote: On 4/16/2013 2:19 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I've been getting a big kick out of this thread. I guess I am not the only one, by far, who is concerned with camera weight. It is very reassuring. Look up Ugol's Law. ;-) http://www.everything2.com/title/Ugol%2527s+Law Camera weight, (or mass), is an interesting thing really. You want less when you're carrying it, and more when you're trying to hold it steady for a shot. Mostly but not entirely true -- I certainly find weight somewhat of a hindrance when trying to put the camera into an odd position, particularly for macro work. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are the shotcomings really that important?
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013, Rob Studdert wrote: On 16 April 2013 22:27, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: Two questions: 1 Do people in the C, N, and F forums ever say Pentax did that right or something similar? Do they say that about companies other than their own camera mfr? I have no idea but all the photogs I know that have top end Canon and Nikon kit seem pretty happy with them. You really never hear anyone complain about the lack of stabilization with prime lenses? -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - New and Old
Thanks, Marnie! As I have said before, some of the architecture rivals the art
it houses.
Rick
http://photo.net/photos/RickW
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Subject: Re: PESO - New and Old
Nice shot, good juxtaposition. Boy, I want to see that place! {Sigh.}
Marnie aka Doe :-)
In a message dated 4/15/2013 7:17:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
rwomer1...@yahoo.com writes:
I'm posting pix from France in no particular order. This is at the
Louvre, again; the new pyramid and one of the old wings.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17164133size=lg
(K-5, DA 16-45)
Comments appreciated!
Rick
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Re: What are the shortcomings of your gear?
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013, Larry Colen wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 01:51:11PM -0700, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2013, P. J. Alling wrote: I do agree with you on the focusing screen, which is why I use a Katz Eye which is very good. Larry's K-x viewfinder seemed much darker than the K-5 or K-30, which I attributed to the Katz Eye -- is my supposition correct? Nope. The K-x is a pentamirror, not a pentaprism. Ahhh, thank you -- I guess pentamirror is something new, I never ran across them with film SLRs. (A little bit of quacking couldn't tell me when they started getting used.) The katzeye, if anything, is brighter than the stock. The difficulty with split prism comes in at high apertures, where physics makes it darker if you are at all off axis. This is why Exposure is wonky with my 18-250 if I use center point for exposure metering. Gotcha. I'm not all that much for manual focus, but I definitely appreciate the brighter image of the pentaprism. So that wipes out a big potential cost advantage of Nikon/Canon (not worth getting one of their cheap cameras). -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Dad, the Philco and a Swivel Chair - 1959
Thanks for all of the comments everyone. I'm glad I took the time to scan those older slides. Unlike the print photo albums the slides tend to get put in a box on a shelf and become out of site out of mind. The print albums get put on the same shelf, but they are easier to open and view when the whim strikes. Somewhere in the late 60's the family started taking snapshots with prints instead of slides. Those are fading and also need to be scanned before they disappear. A lot of them are in those plastic album pages that were so popular back then. That said, once this stuff is scanned it needs to be reproduced in printed form and distributed to the family. I fear the digital versions are much like the slides. Out of sight, out of mind and easily lost. Eventually, I hope that another much younger person in the family emerges with the desire to be a custodian of these old photos. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Apr 15, 2013, at 7:33 AM, George Sinos wrote: Sometimes the stuff in the background of and old photo is as interesting as the original subject. Just a couple of personal observations. http://george-sinos.squarespace.com/blog/2013/4/13/dad-and-the-philco-1959 The value of that photo, and the stories, far exceed its mere technical qualities. PS Yay Argus C3. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What are the shortcomings of your gear?
Actually, my easy chair is more of a hindrance to my photography than any feature of my camera. It needs a feature that automatically ejects the sitter at random intervals. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2013, P. J. Alling wrote: On 4/16/2013 2:19 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I've been getting a big kick out of this thread. I guess I am not the only one, by far, who is concerned with camera weight. It is very reassuring. Look up Ugol's Law. ;-) http://www.everything2.com/title/Ugol%2527s+Law Camera weight, (or mass), is an interesting thing really. You want less when you're carrying it, and more when you're trying to hold it steady for a shot. Mostly but not entirely true -- I certainly find weight somewhat of a hindrance when trying to put the camera into an odd position, particularly for macro work. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill
Though the photos on the front page of today's Boston Globe tell a different story, these are the images I want to remember from yesterday. It's a loosely edited bunch, since I'm also sharing with friends family who are pictured, so pardon the lack of brevity. These are scenes from Heartbreak Hill, about 6 miles from the finish line. It totally sucks that the triumphs of these runners will be overlooked -- their accomplishments stand in stark contrast to the actions of the cowards who caused yesterday's tragedy. Enjoy. http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157633256477901/ -c -- http://christinenielsen.com http://www.facebook.com/ChristineNielsenPhotography -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill
Each one a triumph! Jack - Original Message - From: Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 6:50 AM Subject: GESO: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill Though the photos on the front page of today's Boston Globe tell a different story, these are the images I want to remember from yesterday. It's a loosely edited bunch, since I'm also sharing with friends family who are pictured, so pardon the lack of brevity. These are scenes from Heartbreak Hill, about 6 miles from the finish line. It totally sucks that the triumphs of these runners will be overlooked -- their accomplishments stand in stark contrast to the actions of the cowards who caused yesterday's tragedy. Enjoy. http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157633256477901/ -c -- http://christinenielsen.com/ http://www.facebook.com/ChristineNielsenPhotography -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill
Excellent gallery. Good to see on this sad morning. Paul On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Though the photos on the front page of today's Boston Globe tell a different story, these are the images I want to remember from yesterday. It's a loosely edited bunch, since I'm also sharing with friends family who are pictured, so pardon the lack of brevity. These are scenes from Heartbreak Hill, about 6 miles from the finish line. It totally sucks that the triumphs of these runners will be overlooked -- their accomplishments stand in stark contrast to the actions of the cowards who caused yesterday's tragedy. Enjoy. http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157633256477901/ -c -- http://christinenielsen.com http://www.facebook.com/ChristineNielsenPhotography -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill
Christine, that's a really nice set. The mixture of struggle and comedy is very engaging. Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:50 AM Subject: GESO: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill Though the photos on the front page of today's Boston Globe tell a different story, these are the images I want to remember from yesterday. It's a loosely edited bunch, since I'm also sharing with friends family who are pictured, so pardon the lack of brevity. These are scenes from Heartbreak Hill, about 6 miles from the finish line. It totally sucks that the triumphs of these runners will be overlooked -- their accomplishments stand in stark contrast to the actions of the cowards who caused yesterday's tragedy. Enjoy. http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157633256477901/ -c -- http://christinenielsen.com http://www.facebook.com/ChristineNielsenPhotography -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What are the shortcomings of your gear?
MARK! In a message dated 4/16/2013 6:47:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gsi...@gmail.com writes: Actually, my easy chair is more of a hindrance to my photography than any feature of my camera. It needs a feature that automatically ejects the sitter at random intervals. gs George Sinos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Awkward Wedding Photos
http://themetapicture.com/awkward-wedding-pictures/ Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in
Boston.com's The Big Picture page is always good but their photos from yesterday are amazing. Some are a bit gruesome, so keep that in mind if you're squeamish. http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2013/04/terror_at_the_boston_marathon.html #4 looks like a Pulitzer contender right away. The overall composition is brilliant (though it's obviously cropped) but notice it was snapped at the moment the second bomb exploded - visible in the background. The runner in the foreground was knocked down but not injured. He'd just run a 3:50 marathon. And he's 78 years old. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill
Christine, A very nice set. I love the guy with the Easter Basket, and the others in costumes. A good set from a sad day. We have a sportscaster on TV here in Chicago. (Mike Adamle) A leading rusher in the Big Ten in the late 60's who had a short career in pro football - a tough guy. He's run the Boston Marathon and Chicago as well. He had some trouble keeping his composure last night. When he started talking about how it was such a big deal to the runners and their families who would travel to watch, and how they had missed the opportunity to finish, he broke into tears. A sad day. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Though the photos on the front page of today's Boston Globe tell a different story, these are the images I want to remember from yesterday. It's a loosely edited bunch, since I'm also sharing with friends family who are pictured, so pardon the lack of brevity. These are scenes from Heartbreak Hill, about 6 miles from the finish line. It totally sucks that the triumphs of these runners will be overlooked -- their accomplishments stand in stark contrast to the actions of the cowards who caused yesterday's tragedy. Enjoy. http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157633256477901/ -c -- http://christinenielsen.com http://www.facebook.com/ChristineNielsenPhotography -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are the shotcomings really that important?
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: Two questions: 1 Do people in the C, N, and F forums ever say Pentax did that right or something similar? Do they say that about companies other than their own camera mfr? Many of them say, I used to shoot Pentax in the 70's. Are they still around? I did hear one C/N/S person once praise the mode dial interlock on the K-7. (I *really* miss having that device on my K20D.) 2 Do you get the pictures you like with this equipment? If not, why do you use it? Who not get the gear that does the job? Yes, I do. But I've been yearning for much higher resolution, dynamic range and bokeh look of the type that only medium format cameras and backs provide. So that's my target upgrade path. The D800e almost cuts it. So does the 645D. But I think that a Hassy/PhaseOne is in my future somewhere. As to why not get it? Heh: limited budget. But a used Hassy with a P25 back is within the realm of possible, so that gives me hope. Most of what gets me the pictures I want isn't due to the camera body and lenses anyway. It's more to do with lighting and grip gear. That stuff I can afford, so that's where my spare money has been going. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in
Joe, We read George Orwell's 1984 in high school English class. I guess it has taken another 30 years for the tech to catch up. I have no doubt that I can be profiled on line, but try not to reveal to much. We're both part of the OWG fraternity (Old White Guys). If they start coming after us, the country is in big trouble. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: On Apr 15, 2013, at 12:49 , Ann Sanfedele wrote: Watching the news here... :-( NOThing yet on cause of the explosions near end of the Marathon - not clear if intentional explosion or not ann (in NY) I grew up in the area, Wellesley, and spent some years beside a table handing out cups of water near the bottom of the hill leading down into Newton Lower Falls. My Dad worked at a laboratory out in Hopkinton, so I've been there at the start, even before it was staggered. (1953-1961) I was watching TV after my lunch at home when the news came over about this tragedy. And there I stayed for most of the afternoon until Defiance came on SyFy at 6PM PDT. I was shocked. My feelings have ranged between disgust at the act, prayers for those injured or otherwise involved, and more disgust at the stupidity of those who feed us the news. I knew enough to pay little attention to the blather and statistics, but instead do my photo-intelligence of the images they were running over and over. Media should have people in the studio watching these raw snippets for content and feeding the visual content in context to the talking heads. Todays talking heads were rarely fed, nor did they see, the video that they were talking over. This led to them stumbling over their words, disagreeing with what was before our eyes on the other side of the glass. It takes many hours in ANY unstable emergency situation for the actual statistics to unfold and be passed on to the news-hounds. And a day or more before announcements can be made that take heed of those involved. A week or more before the timeline of events is discerned. All of you in the Boston area were on my mind, along with dozens more from my mis-spent youth, including a few old girlfriends. :) Now, coming in to the computer room and scrolling through and reading all of your outpouring of love and concern regards this tragedy reminds me once more why I hang on, knowing that my blather is already shuffled unread to some junk files here and there. :) Sleep well tonight. Tomorrow the Washington Lawmakers are to debate and vote on a bill that wants to take away no small part of our online, and other, freedoms of privacy from the Man. It's called the Cyber Intelligence Sharing Protection Act (CISPA) and it's aiming to allow the Man to get information on any one without a warrant. BigBigBusiness has flooded D.C. with Execs pandering up to the powers that be talking cooperation. They think it's a good idea. I don't know enough about it personally, only what the resistance posts. I believe the majority would feel dis-inclined to have all our communications available to those who have no good use for it. There are plenty of legal pathways between suspicion and broad-scale ELINT collection for the supercomputers that are tasked to sort out our quirks. Probably have a field day with the last three paragraphs. :) Loves ya ALL! Joseph McAllister Pentaxian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Awkward Wedding Photos
Funny set Dan. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://themetapicture.com/awkward-wedding-pictures/ Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 Black White
Shh. I won't tell them if You won’t. Larry in Dallas -Original Message- From: Bruce Walker Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 3:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-5 Black White On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 4:56 PM, larry larryl...@sprintmail.com wrote: Some editors actually consider converting from RAW to JPEG the same as modifications. I guess their delicate little brains would simply explode if anyone pointed out that the camera itself does that when JPEG-shooting is selected. Oh, goodness gracious me: _Modifications_. How utterly vexatious of the wicked and devious little thing. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)
I hadn't. (Don't think I've ever seen any interview, in fact.) Enjoyed it a lot. He could not only photograph very well, he could also talk about it very clearly. I didn't realize he smiled so much, that was good to find out. Marnie aka Doe :-) Thanks for sharing. In a message dated 4/15/2013 11:51:12 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pixelsmi...@gmail.com writes: I hadn't seen this before, and thought I'd pass it along. Only 36 views on YouTube, as I type this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdCq-1MJmHwfeature=youtu.be -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are the shotcomings really that important?
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: Two questions: 1 Do people in the C, N, and F forums ever say Pentax did that right or something similar? Do they say that about companies other than their own camera mfr? Nope, i get yelled at if i mention it. 2 Do you get the pictures you like with this equipment? If not, why do you use it? Who not get the gear that does the job? Yes i do Dave (The think I like about the K5, functionally, is that red X on the top. Kr, Kx, K30 need one. That will do what I want. All else is gravy.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Dad, the Philco and a Swivel Chair - 1959
George, I think your very right. Now I've got to scan my best slides, and my Dad's slides. And get my sister, who is collecting old family photos, to do some book making as well. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:43 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all of the comments everyone. I'm glad I took the time to scan those older slides. Unlike the print photo albums the slides tend to get put in a box on a shelf and become out of site out of mind. The print albums get put on the same shelf, but they are easier to open and view when the whim strikes. Somewhere in the late 60's the family started taking snapshots with prints instead of slides. Those are fading and also need to be scanned before they disappear. A lot of them are in those plastic album pages that were so popular back then. That said, once this stuff is scanned it needs to be reproduced in printed form and distributed to the family. I fear the digital versions are much like the slides. Out of sight, out of mind and easily lost. Eventually, I hope that another much younger person in the family emerges with the desire to be a custodian of these old photos. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Apr 15, 2013, at 7:33 AM, George Sinos wrote: Sometimes the stuff in the background of and old photo is as interesting as the original subject. Just a couple of personal observations. http://george-sinos.squarespace.com/blog/2013/4/13/dad-and-the-philco-1959 The value of that photo, and the stories, far exceed its mere technical qualities. PS Yay Argus C3. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Unusual wedding photo quandary
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013, Walt wrote: I'll have a sit-down with her and see if I can steer the conversation in that direction. It's just a little difficult to find a good segue, but I'll figure it out. There are basically two options: * Direct approach is that you ask her straight out (I'm processing the pictures from your wedding, and I had some questions about the results you want...) * Indirect approach is that you do something like showing her pairs of pictures, originals and crops, and ask her which she likes better Based on the thread, you can probably guess which approach I think you should use, but it's not a perfect world, and if you're feeling squeamish or something, the second option is workable. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boston PDMLers
Heart goes out to the victims of this attack. I hope that there'll be no more deaths as the result of this unfortunate event. On 4/15/2013 11:31 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Just seeing news about explosions at the Boston Marathon. Hope you guys are OK. And I hope the toll doesn't get any worse. Shame there's any toll at all. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)
I had the same thought. But since he preferred BW, he probably would have found the first digital cameras disappointing for BW. Although he did shoot some in color too. Marnie aka DoeI really got a lot ouf of the interview. In a message dated 4/15/2013 4:38:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, distudio.p...@gmail.com writes: He could see the potential in digital image capture even at that early stage, one wonders what amazing work he could have produced with the new medium. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in
Peter, I have to humbly suggest a different opinion on this sad matter. The object of terror is not to frighten people. Well, it is indeed, but it is the immediate effect. There is much more sinister, more long lasting secondary effect. It is that of division of the society into several (usually two major) groups. Each act of terror furthers the divide and eventually the society starts chewing on itself from within, so to say. This is when things get really horrible. On 4/16/2013 9:30 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Terror, the object of terror is terror, to paraphrase Orwell. On 4/16/2013 12:23 AM, John Coyle wrote: So glad to hear our PDML-ers are Ok, but still what a terrible thing to happen. What are these people trying to achieve by killing innocents like this? John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)
A few years ago there was an exhibit of various photographers work at the local museum. Several 8x10 color transparencies were on display (Kodachrome, if I remember correctly.) They were on a large light table, back lit, of course. I was surprised to see that were Adam's work. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:37 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I had the same thought. But since he preferred BW, he probably would have found the first digital cameras disappointing for BW. Although he did shoot some in color too. Marnie aka DoeI really got a lot ouf of the interview. In a message dated 4/15/2013 4:38:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, distudio.p...@gmail.com writes: He could see the potential in digital image capture even at that early stage, one wonders what amazing work he could have produced with the new medium. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)
http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1932762,00.html worth a look! On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:41 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: A few years ago there was an exhibit of various photographers work at the local museum. Several 8x10 color transparencies were on display (Kodachrome, if I remember correctly.) They were on a large light table, back lit, of course. I was surprised to see that were Adam's work. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:37 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I had the same thought. But since he preferred BW, he probably would have found the first digital cameras disappointing for BW. Although he did shoot some in color too. Marnie aka DoeI really got a lot ouf of the interview. In a message dated 4/15/2013 4:38:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, distudio.p...@gmail.com writes: He could see the potential in digital image capture even at that early stage, one wonders what amazing work he could have produced with the new medium. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Boston PDML'ers please check in.
The serial bombings in Boston are very unfortunate.This is the handiwork of sick, evil and cruel people taking out their ire on innocents. Let us tell these scheming folks that in no way it intimidates or frightens us, and that evil shall beget evil. We stand in solidarity behind all things good represented by Boston, as we suffer such bombings every year in our beloved India. We pray that America stand solidly behind us in support to fight all kinds of terrorism, as lip service and diplomacy is not enough. We have to attack this evil and the preparators in their training camps, their homes and in their countries, till they have nowhere to go and hide like sewer rats on our earth. We are with you Boston. Regards. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What are the shortcomings of your gear?
From: Aahz Maruch On Tue, Apr 16, 2013, P. J. Alling wrote: On 4/16/2013 2:19 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I've been getting a big kick out of this thread. I guess I am not the only one, by far, who is concerned with camera weight. It is very reassuring. Look up Ugol's Law. ;-) http://www.everything2.com/title/Ugol%2527s+Law I'd never heard the bit about the goat the adding machine. Learn something new everyday I guess. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in
From: Mark Roberts Boston.com's The Big Picture page is always good but their photos from yesterday are amazing. Some are a bit gruesome, so keep that in mind if you're squeamish. http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2013/04/terror_at_the_boston_marathon.html #4 looks like a Pulitzer contender right away. The overall composition is brilliant (though it's obviously cropped) but notice it was snapped at the moment the second bomb exploded - visible in the background. The runner in the foreground was knocked down but not injured. He'd just run a 3:50 marathon. And he's 78 years old. Number 12 looks like that's one of the kids who were hurt. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in
Jesus. I recognize some of those photos from this morning's paper... the one I had to hide, so my youngest wouldn't see. Hats off to those photojournalists. Not sure I could do that. I think I saw that 78 yr old interviewed on the news last night... from Oklahoma, I think. There is footage of him collapsing at the first blast -- his legs wobbled in all directions he went down. I was glad to know he turned up ok. Thx for sharing, Mark. -c On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Boston.com's The Big Picture page is always good but their photos from yesterday are amazing. Some are a bit gruesome, so keep that in mind if you're squeamish. http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2013/04/terror_at_the_boston_marathon.html #4 looks like a Pulitzer contender right away. The overall composition is brilliant (though it's obviously cropped) but notice it was snapped at the moment the second bomb exploded - visible in the background. The runner in the foreground was knocked down but not injured. He'd just run a 3:50 marathon. And he's 78 years old. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Photographing the Night Sky
I received this in the mail a few days ago. Kind of got lost in some other stuff that's going on, but it's today at 1:00pm CDT if anyone is interested has the time http://elabs7.com/functions/message_view.html?mid=1721618mlid=747siteid=506781uid=1eee1214f1 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 Black White
On Apr 16, 2013, at 11:29 AM, larry larryl...@sprintmail.com wrote: Shh. I won't tell them if You won’t. Larry in Dallas -Original Message- From: Bruce Walker Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 3:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K-5 Black White On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 4:56 PM, larry larryl...@sprintmail.com wrote: Some editors actually consider converting from RAW to JPEG the same as modifications. I guess their delicate little brains would simply explode if anyone pointed out that the camera itself does that when JPEG-shooting is selected. Oh, goodness gracious me: _Modifications_. How utterly vexatious of the wicked and devious little thing. -- The New York Times, which is known to have the strictest photo modification rules in the business, has no problem with RAW conversions. They do insist that jpegs arrive at the photo editors desk with exif data intact. Paul -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
What are the shortcomings of your gear?
Can't fault your thinking Rob. But even an entry level DSLR today is far far superior to most Phone Camera or PS, and they certainly are not under performing tools by any measure. So it is more the user of the tools that has to ensure it is possible to complete his job well. Lets see, pining for:- a) Lock Ups: certainly the manufacturer's fault - poor design, cheap components, sloppy assembly by underpaid over worked workers in 3rd world countries, quality assurance etc. But I read every camera manufacturer have had a share of product failures. Take the case of the stains on the Sony sensors. Pentax suffered because of faulty manufacturing of sensors by the great SONY. My K-5 bought this Jan for $ 1110 with the 18-135 WR lens has not locked up. Sell your Pentax-Hoya stuff and buy Pentax-Ricoh. b) Flash System: PTTL flash - built in or shoe mount - is badly implemented by Pentax-Ricoh - well documented. But with my ancient Auto Thyristor Flash, 92% of my shots are perfect. Please write to me so that I can email the complete resource to you. It will leave you immensely happy for just $ 40 or so, and add magic to your flash photography. c) AF competence: I have been using AF Pentaxes since the MZ5n days right upto the K-5 now. Vow, what a difference from the early days. I have not lost a SINGLE PHOTO due to AF problems with my K20D or the K-5. And I am told the K-5II/K-5IIs are much better. When AF on your camera is unpredictable use Live View with Contrast Detect AF. Regards. Bipin - from that far away enchanting land. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)
Ansel's color images are nice enough but they illustrate, in a way that few other things can, how color images can never have the gravitas of a good BW image. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1932762,00.html worth a look! On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:41 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: A few years ago there was an exhibit of various photographers work at the local museum. Several 8x10 color transparencies were on display (Kodachrome, if I remember correctly.) They were on a large light table, back lit, of course. I was surprised to see that were Adam's work. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:37 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I had the same thought. But since he preferred BW, he probably would have found the first digital cameras disappointing for BW. Although he did shoot some in color too. Marnie aka DoeI really got a lot ouf of the interview. In a message dated 4/15/2013 4:38:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, distudio.p...@gmail.com writes: He could see the potential in digital image capture even at that early stage, one wonders what amazing work he could have produced with the new medium. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Mango Muse (by Bong Manayon)
Apologies to Bong, but I just have to share this image that he created from his Flickr photostream. It's a keeper. Reminds me of an image I would have seen in one of the old Kodak photography publications, back in the day. And it is shot on film. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/8651379276/in/contacts/lightbox/ -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are the shotcomings really that important?
On 16/04/2013 6:27 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Two questions: 1 Do people in the C, N, and F forums ever say Pentax did that right or something similar? Do they say that about companies other than their own camera mfr? I don't read other camera forums. In fact, this is about the only camera forum that I read. The gang I hang out with all use Nikons and Canons, and they all really like the Limited lenses. They have the same concerns that I have regarding auto focus speed and accuracy though. 2 Do you get the pictures you like with this equipment? If not, why do you use it? Who not get the gear that does the job? When one has a significant lens investment (I have close to 75 Pentax lenses at the moment), that is easier said than done. However, were I going to get back into the pro photography game, I would be looking at a different brand of SLR and a few lenses. I've had too many frustrations with Pentax over the past few years trying to shoot professionally with their equipment to trust the stuff, especially considering how easy companies like Nikon make it for their photographers. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)
Two words: Afghan Girl. IOW, I disagree. :-) On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Ansel's color images are nice enough but they illustrate, in a way that few other things can, how color images can never have the gravitas of a good BW image. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1932762,00.html worth a look! On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:41 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: A few years ago there was an exhibit of various photographers work at the local museum. Several 8x10 color transparencies were on display (Kodachrome, if I remember correctly.) They were on a large light table, back lit, of course. I was surprised to see that were Adam's work. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:37 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I had the same thought. But since he preferred BW, he probably would have found the first digital cameras disappointing for BW. Although he did shoot some in color too. Marnie aka DoeI really got a lot ouf of the interview. In a message dated 4/15/2013 4:38:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, distudio.p...@gmail.com writes: He could see the potential in digital image capture even at that early stage, one wonders what amazing work he could have produced with the new medium. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)
Really enjoyed this interview, and I'm planning to watch the others, eg on Brandt and Kertesz. I have a couple of Kertesz books; he's a fave. Thanks, Darren! On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I hadn't seen this before, and thought I'd pass it along. Only 36 views on YouTube, as I type this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdCq-1MJmHwfeature=youtu.be -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in
On 16/04/2013 9:39 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Peter, I have to humbly suggest a different opinion on this sad matter. The object of terror is not to frighten people. Well, it is indeed, but it is the immediate effect. There is much more sinister, more long lasting secondary effect. It is that of division of the society into several (usually two major) groups. Each act of terror furthers the divide and eventually the society starts chewing on itself from within, so to say. This is when things get really horrible. Look at the political polarization in the USA right now and tell me they aren't on their way to horrible. To my American friends, from one neighbor to another, and one friend to another, I really don't have the words to express how sad I am for these terrorist events happening on your soil. Please accept my sympathy, for what it is worth to you, and please, stay strong, and stay sane. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)
I disagree, too. But what really frosts me about the statement is the implicit arrogance that assumes anyone who generally prefers colour to BW images is just plain wrong, and an inferior being incapable of appreciating the true value of the work. If you like BW images, fine. But it should be possible for you to enjoy them without disparaging those who don't. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 02:54:45PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote: Two words: Afghan Girl. IOW, I disagree. :-) On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Ansel's color images are nice enough but they illustrate, in a way that few other things can, how color images can never have the gravitas of a good BW image. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1932762,00.html worth a look! On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:41 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: A few years ago there was an exhibit of various photographers work at the local museum. Several 8x10 color transparencies were on display (Kodachrome, if I remember correctly.) They were on a large light table, back lit, of course. I was surprised to see that were Adam's work. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:37 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I had the same thought. But since he preferred BW, he probably would have found the first digital cameras disappointing for BW. Although he did shoot some in color too. Marnie aka DoeI really got a lot ouf of the interview. In a message dated 4/15/2013 4:38:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, distudio.p...@gmail.com writes: He could see the potential in digital image capture even at that early stage, one wonders what amazing work he could have produced with the new medium. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Two words: Afghan Girl. IOW, I disagree. :-) ONE image? In the HISTORY of photography. ; ) Extra points to those who get the Orange County movie reference. : ) -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in
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On Apr 16, 2013, at 09:20 , Christine Nielsen wrote: Jesus. I recognize some of those photos from this morning's paper... the one I had to hide, so my youngest wouldn't see. Hats off to those photojournalists. Not sure I could do that. I was a photographer in the US Navy 62-66. I would never have thought I would have to take photos like that. But when you are told to go cover an aircraft accident in the mountains, or a fatal automobile accident on base, you do it. The film is for the record. The images stay in your mind forever. I think I saw that 78 yr old interviewed on the news last night... from Oklahoma, I think. There is footage of him collapsing at the first blast -- his legs wobbled in all directions he went down. I was glad to know he turned up ok. That gentleman was from up the road a piece from where I used to live in Everett, Washington. Silver Lake, I believe. Just scraped his knee when he fell, though I imagine the blast threw his ears into a state where he couldn't maintain his balance. Thx for sharing, Mark. Yes Mark. Thanks Glad you were at heartbreak hill along with Christine. Joseph McAllister Pentaxian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)
There's a lot of converstation going on between your ears, John, that didn't come out of my mouth. I shoot color. If I were disparaging anyone I would have to include myself as one who needed to be disparaged. But that's not what I'm doing. Occasionally I find an image that I think would look better in BW and I'm generally pleased with the results and often prefer it to the color version. My point was that Ansel Adam's BW imagery made him an icon. He chose the same subject matter for his color work. Is there really anyone among us who look at those color images of his and think they are head and shoulders above anything you have seen elsewhere? Or that he would have become an icon if he had only his color work to show? There is a reason that the colorizing of black and white films bothers people. A lot of people. It is because there is a different aesthetic at work in black and white. Ansel himself refers to it as an interpretation of reality (whereas color photography is mostly just reality). Sometimes reality is impressive enough - one reason that cliches like sunrises/sunsets are so enjoyable to us. Few would claim that a sunset in black white is going to have more impact than the color version. It has nothing to do with being inferior. Take any of those color images of Ansel Adams and convert it to BW (applying Adam's Zone System for best dynamic range) and ask 100 people which image has more gravitas and I guarantee you that the majority of those who understand the meaning of the word will choose the BW. That's all I'm saying, and you are free to disagree or to get any degree of frostburn they would like by extrapolating from my comments, rather than just taking them at face value. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:06 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: I disagree, too. But what really frosts me about the statement is the implicit arrogance that assumes anyone who generally prefers colour to BW images is just plain wrong, and an inferior being incapable of appreciating the true value of the work. If you like BW images, fine. But it should be possible for you to enjoy them without disparaging those who don't. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 02:54:45PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote: Two words: Afghan Girl. IOW, I disagree. :-) On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Ansel's color images are nice enough but they illustrate, in a way that few other things can, how color images can never have the gravitas of a good BW image. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1932762,00.html worth a look! On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:41 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: A few years ago there was an exhibit of various photographers work at the local museum. Several 8x10 color transparencies were on display (Kodachrome, if I remember correctly.) They were on a large light table, back lit, of course. I was surprised to see that were Adam's work. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:37 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I had the same thought. But since he preferred BW, he probably would have found the first digital cameras disappointing for BW. Although he did shoot some in color too. Marnie aka DoeI really got a lot ouf of the interview. In a message dated 4/15/2013 4:38:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, distudio.p...@gmail.com writes: He could see the potential in digital image capture even at that early stage, one wonders what amazing work he could have produced with the new medium. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail
Re: Boston PDML'ers please check in
Moving. Thanks for sharing. On Apr 16, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: The story behind the photo: http://lightbox.time.com/2013/04/15/tragedy-in-boston-one-photographers-eyewitness-account/#1 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)
Ansel's BW images stand out as a result of his darkroom mastery. His printing often involved dozens of dodge and burn steps using masks. That kind of control would be near impossible in optical color printing where exposure levels affect colors differently. Converting his color prints to BW couldn't possibly produce results in any way comparable to his own BW prints. On Apr 16, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: There's a lot of converstation going on between your ears, John, that didn't come out of my mouth. I shoot color. If I were disparaging anyone I would have to include myself as one who needed to be disparaged. But that's not what I'm doing. Occasionally I find an image that I think would look better in BW and I'm generally pleased with the results and often prefer it to the color version. My point was that Ansel Adam's BW imagery made him an icon. He chose the same subject matter for his color work. Is there really anyone among us who look at those color images of his and think they are head and shoulders above anything you have seen elsewhere? Or that he would have become an icon if he had only his color work to show? There is a reason that the colorizing of black and white films bothers people. A lot of people. It is because there is a different aesthetic at work in black and white. Ansel himself refers to it as an interpretation of reality (whereas color photography is mostly just reality). Sometimes reality is impressive enough - one reason that cliches like sunrises/sunsets are so enjoyable to us. Few would claim that a sunset in black white is going to have more impact than the color version. It has nothing to do with being inferior. Take any of those color images of Ansel Adams and convert it to BW (applying Adam's Zone System for best dynamic range) and ask 100 people which image has more gravitas and I guarantee you that the majority of those who understand the meaning of the word will choose the BW. That's all I'm saying, and you are free to disagree or to get any degree of frostburn they would like by extrapolating from my comments, rather than just taking them at face value. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:06 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: I disagree, too. But what really frosts me about the statement is the implicit arrogance that assumes anyone who generally prefers colour to BW images is just plain wrong, and an inferior being incapable of appreciating the true value of the work. If you like BW images, fine. But it should be possible for you to enjoy them without disparaging those who don't. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 02:54:45PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote: Two words: Afghan Girl. IOW, I disagree. :-) On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Ansel's color images are nice enough but they illustrate, in a way that few other things can, how color images can never have the gravitas of a good BW image. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1932762,00.html worth a look! On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:41 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: A few years ago there was an exhibit of various photographers work at the local museum. Several 8x10 color transparencies were on display (Kodachrome, if I remember correctly.) They were on a large light table, back lit, of course. I was surprised to see that were Adam's work. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:37 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I had the same thought. But since he preferred BW, he probably would have found the first digital cameras disappointing for BW. Although he did shoot some in color too. Marnie aka DoeI really got a lot ouf of the interview. In a message dated 4/15/2013 4:38:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, distudio.p...@gmail.com writes: He could see the potential in digital image capture even at that early stage, one wonders what amazing work he could have produced with the new medium. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi --
Re: What are the shortcomings of your gear?
I'm surprised by how many people find that an issue. I've always thought of camera heft as a feature rather than a bug. I might balk at that characterization if I ever had to lug around a full-frame or medium format for any significant length of time. But, I will say that the weight of the K20D is what made me prefer it to my K-x in every situation other than very low light. Now that I've grown accustomed to shooting with the K20D and my K-5, trying to use a lighter body or a PS feels like the thing is just going to float right out of my hands -- sort of the way your feet feel after taking off a pair of ankle weights. Also, I've pretty much fallen in love with my K-5 after using it to shoot the two weddings I shot over the past ten days. I'm just amazed at what I'm able to pull out of shadows. And, if there are any shortcomings, I'm unalterably convinced that they reside within me. The one minor gripe I have is that it seems too easy to get it out of AF-S when using the 4-way selection buttons on the back when I have the viewfinder up to my eye. I can't count the number of times I've tried to switch focus points only to discover that I'm scrolling through digital filters, etc. That is a bit grating when you're trying to catch a bride and groom walking down the aisle, among other things. -- Walt On 4/16/2013 1:19 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I've been getting a big kick out of this thread. I guess I am not the only one, by far, who is concerned with camera weight. It is very reassuring. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What are the shortcomings of your gear?
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: I'm surprised by how many people find [weight] an issue. I've always thought of camera heft as a feature rather than a bug. I walk my dog in the park every day. I only take my K20D along when I've pre-decided it's picture taking time. I should take it along every walk, but I don't and weight is the decider. Well, also that the dog doesn't actually get much of a walk when I'm shooting, but that's secondary. I might balk at that characterization if I ever had to lug around a full-frame or medium format for any significant length of time. But, I will say that the weight of the K20D is what made me prefer it to my K-x in every situation other than very low light. Now that I've grown accustomed to shooting with the K20D and my K-5, trying to use a lighter body or a PS feels like the thing is just going to float right out of my hands -- sort of the way your feet feel after taking off a pair of ankle weights. When I'm shooting, especially in studio, I don't notice the camera's weight, and I agree that the heft is reassuring and even useful. But I pay for it with sore wrists later on. The one minor gripe I have [with the K-5] is that it seems too easy to get it out of AF-S when using the 4-way selection buttons on the back when I have the viewfinder up to my eye. I can't count the number of times I've tried to switch focus points only to discover that I'm scrolling through digital filters, etc. That is a bit grating when you're trying to catch a bride and groom walking down the aisle, among other things. This is a major issue and suggests to me that there's not enough input from working photographers and too much from the More Features Needed people during UI design time. As soon as I first heard about the focus-point selection issues my shoulders slumped. I'm quite content to leap-frog the K-7 K-5 line in the hopes that Pentax releases a body with better real-world usability down the road. I just don't need more cases where the camera fights me when I'm trying to use it to catch fleeting moments. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available
I'm getting an error page when I try to download this by the supplied link. Is this what you guys are seeing too? https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_lightroom5 We're sorry, we encountered an error processing your request. On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: The public beta of Lightroom 5 is available for download: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom5/ New Features in Lightroom 5 Beta Advanced Healing Brush – Easily remove objects and fix defects—even those with irregular shapes such as threads or lint—with a single brush stroke. Take precise control over what's being removed as you make unwanted objects just disappear. Upright – Straighten tilted images with a single click. Upright analyzes images and detects skewed horizontal or vertical lines. You choose one of four correction methods, and Upright can even straighten images where the horizon is hidden. Radial Gradient – Lead your viewer's eye through your images with more flexibility and control. The radial gradient tool lets you create off-center vignette effects, or multiple vignette areas within a single image. Offline editing with Smart Previews – Easily work with images without bringing your entire library with you. Just generate smaller stand-in files called Smart Previews. Make adjustments or metadata additions to Smart Previews and your changes will be automatically applied to the full-size originals later. Video slideshow sharing – Easily share your work in elegant video slideshows. Combine still images, video clips, and music in creative HD videos that can be viewed on almost any computer or device. Improved photo book creation – Create beautiful photo books from your images. Lightroom includes a variety of easy-to-use book templates, and now you can edit them to create a customized look. Upload your book for printing with just a few clicks. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What are the shortcomings of your gear?
on 2013-04-16 13:41 Walt wrote I'm surprised by how many people find that an issue. I've always thought of camera heft as a feature rather than a bug. i carry a K-5 and one or two primes often, and my shoulder feels the heft as enough of a detriment that i'm sure i'll be in the mirrorless camp in a few years; the weight keeps me from carrying my 16-45 zoom often (even though it's relatively light for a quality zoom), and weight keeps the 105mm macro out of my routine kit, though i very much like shooting with it; i also find the bulk and the attention-attracting aspects of K-5, even with small primes, as minor negatives, though i'm somewhat comforted when i see people carrying around those giant white Canon lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Ten meter Mary
on 2013-04-15 19:25 Larry Colen wrote On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 05:32:39PM -0600, steve harley wrote: on 2013-04-13 12:50 Larry Colen wrote Our lady of peace, across the street from my office: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8645289393/ Mary, meet Five Meter Fido (caution - known to sniff) https://www.dropbox.com/s/v2deded638hqf35/_IGP7028.jpg NSFW: Not Safe for Walkies? Mary's safe, nothing to smell there anyway ;? Fun shot, but my alliterative alter ego would call it fifteen foot Fido. i went for rhythm, but okay ... so much for the four-footed friend -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)
One thing I found really fascinating in the video, Ansel often boosted the contrast way up. Especially on his most well-known photos. If he had done that in color it would have been immediately noticeable. In other words, he was a Photoshopper well before there was a Photoshop. So, yes, Rob he probably would have loved digital. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 4/16/2013 12:24:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pixelsmi...@gmail.com writes: There's a lot of converstation going on between your ears, John, that didn't come out of my mouth. I shoot color. If I were disparaging anyone I would have to include myself as one who needed to be disparaged. But that's not what I'm doing. Occasionally I find an image that I think would look better in BW and I'm generally pleased with the results and often prefer it to the color version. My point was that Ansel Adam's BW imagery made him an icon. He chose the same subject matter for his color work. Is there really anyone among us who look at those color images of his and think they are head and shoulders above anything you have seen elsewhere? Or that he would have become an icon if he had only his color work to show? There is a reason that the colorizing of black and white films bothers people. A lot of people. It is because there is a different aesthetic at work in black and white. Ansel himself refers to it as an interpretation of reality (whereas color photography is mostly just reality). Sometimes reality is impressive enough - one reason that cliches like sunrises/sunsets are so enjoyable to us. Few would claim that a sunset in black white is going to have more impact than the color version. It has nothing to do with being inferior. Take any of those color images of Ansel Adams and convert it to BW (applying Adam's Zone System for best dynamic range) and ask 100 people which image has more gravitas and I guarantee you that the majority of those who understand the meaning of the word will choose the BW. That's all I'm saying, and you are free to disagree or to get any degree of frostburn they would like by extrapolating from my comments, rather than just taking them at face value. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:06 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: I disagree, too. But what really frosts me about the statement is the implicit arrogance that assumes anyone who generally prefers colour to BW images is just plain wrong, and an inferior being incapable of appreciating the true value of the work. If you like BW images, fine. But it should be possible for you to enjoy them without disparaging those who don't. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 02:54:45PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote: Two words: Afghan Girl. IOW, I disagree. :-) On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Ansel's color images are nice enough but they illustrate, in a way that few other things can, how color images can never have the gravitas of a good BW image. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1932762,00.html worth a look! On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:41 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: A few years ago there was an exhibit of various photographers work at the local museum. Several 8x10 color transparencies were on display (Kodachrome, if I remember correctly.) They were on a large light table, back lit, of course. I was surprised to see that were Adam's work. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:37 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I had the same thought. But since he preferred BW, he probably would have found the first digital cameras disappointing for BW. Although he did shoot some in color too. Marnie aka DoeI really got a lot ouf of the interview. In a message dated 4/15/2013 4:38:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, distudio.p...@gmail.com writes: He could see the potential in digital image capture even at that early stage, one wonders what amazing work he could have produced with the new medium. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the
Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available
On Apr 16, 2013, at 15:05 , Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I'm getting an error page when I try to download this by the supplied link. Is this what you guys are seeing too? https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_lightroom5 We're sorry, we encountered an error processing your request. Sorry, the download is working for me. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill
Thanks, Jack, Rick, Paul, Bob... I used to go to the marathon every now then as a kid, but have been faithfully attending for the past 5 years that my brother has run. It's his crowd -- the middle to the back of the packers -- that the event is really about for me. Not elite athletes, but they work so hard, many raise money for worthy causes, and surmount incredible personal challenges just to finish. To watch on Heartbreak Hill -- it's almost like you can't leave, even as the horde of runners slows to a trickle, because you want to encourage each one up the final slope. (Among other things) I am angry that some jackass coward got to upstage them on what should be their day, and rob them of that achievement. Bleh. In other news, I did enjoy the 60-250 out there. And there was a funny moment when, having been scanning the crowd for our friend Dave to come by, I finally spotted him...so I dashed across Comm Ave, high-fived him, and ran backwards up the hill to get the shot... planting myself right in front of the Official Photographer for the event. I heard him say whoa, whoa, whoa! behind me as I nearly ran into him, bum first. I didn't dare turn around... just got my shot dashed off. I hope he doesn't share the unflattering photo of my backside... lol... -c On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Christine, A very nice set. I love the guy with the Easter Basket, and the others in costumes. A good set from a sad day. We have a sportscaster on TV here in Chicago. (Mike Adamle) A leading rusher in the Big Ten in the late 60's who had a short career in pro football - a tough guy. He's run the Boston Marathon and Chicago as well. He had some trouble keeping his composure last night. When he started talking about how it was such a big deal to the runners and their families who would travel to watch, and how they had missed the opportunity to finish, he broke into tears. A sad day. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Though the photos on the front page of today's Boston Globe tell a different story, these are the images I want to remember from yesterday. It's a loosely edited bunch, since I'm also sharing with friends family who are pictured, so pardon the lack of brevity. These are scenes from Heartbreak Hill, about 6 miles from the finish line. It totally sucks that the triumphs of these runners will be overlooked -- their accomplishments stand in stark contrast to the actions of the cowards who caused yesterday's tragedy. Enjoy. http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157633256477901/ -c -- http://christinenielsen.com http://www.facebook.com/ChristineNielsenPhotography -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://christinenielsen.com http://www.facebook.com/ChristineNielsenPhotography -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill
Nice captures! I'm amazed at the lack of exertion on the faces of most of the runners. Looked like a great day for the marathon - up to a point. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net Subject: GESO: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill Though the photos on the front page of today's Boston Globe tell a different story, these are the images I want to remember from yesterday. It's a loosely edited bunch, since I'm also sharing with friends family who are pictured, so pardon the lack of brevity. These are scenes from Heartbreak Hill, about 6 miles from the finish line. It totally sucks that the triumphs of these runners will be overlooked -- their accomplishments stand in stark contrast to the actions of the cowards who caused yesterday's tragedy. Enjoy. http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157633256477901/ -c -- http://christinenielsen.com http://www.facebook.com/ChristineNielsenPhotography -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are the shotcomings really that important?
From: Bill On 16/04/2013 6:27 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Two questions: 1 Do people in the C, N, and F forums ever say Pentax did that right or something similar? Do they say that about companies other than their own camera mfr? I don't read other camera forums. In fact, this is about the only camera forum that I read. The gang I hang out with all use Nikons and Canons, and they all really like the Limited lenses. They have the same concerns that I have regarding auto focus speed and accuracy though. Back when my ISP still offered a news server, I used to hang out in a usenet forum that was alt.binaries.photo.original. It was something like PDML except that it was multi-denominational you could post your PESOs as attachments directly to the list. I also used to participate in rec.photo.35mm.marketplace (not sure if I remember the name exactly), which is where I encountered the fellow who made me swear that if I ever did switch brands it would NEVER be to Canon. 2 Do you get the pictures you like with this equipment? If not, why do you use it? Who not get the gear that does the job? When one has a significant lens investment (I have close to 75 Pentax lenses at the moment), that is easier said than done. However, were I going to get back into the pro photography game, I would be looking at a different brand of SLR and a few lenses. I've had too many frustrations with Pentax over the past few years trying to shoot professionally with their equipment to trust the stuff, especially considering how easy companies like Nikon make it for their photographers. If I do end up switching, it won't be an easy decision. Don't know if I'll have enough years left to recreate my investment in Pentax glass. I *want* a full frame DSLR. I hope I will be able to get it from Pentax. But, I don't know if I'm going to have enough years left that I can afford to wait for it either. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill
Thank you. It was a beautiful day, almost perfect marathon weather. If you recall, last year it was over 90 degrees -- that was crazy. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:23 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Nice captures! I'm amazed at the lack of exertion on the faces of most of the runners. Looked like a great day for the marathon - up to a point. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net Subject: GESO: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill Though the photos on the front page of today's Boston Globe tell a different story, these are the images I want to remember from yesterday. It's a loosely edited bunch, since I'm also sharing with friends family who are pictured, so pardon the lack of brevity. These are scenes from Heartbreak Hill, about 6 miles from the finish line. It totally sucks that the triumphs of these runners will be overlooked -- their accomplishments stand in stark contrast to the actions of the cowards who caused yesterday's tragedy. Enjoy. http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157633256477901/ -c -- http://christinenielsen.com http://www.facebook.com/ChristineNielsenPhotography -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill
Great set, Christine! How right you are to proudly show this set of images that depict the best in personal achievement, strength, and endurance. The good guys shall prevail! Cheers, Christine Christine Aguila, Asst. Professor Communications Dept., Truman College FC4 President On Apr 16, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Thanks, Jack, Rick, Paul, Bob... I used to go to the marathon every now then as a kid, but have been faithfully attending for the past 5 years that my brother has run. It's his crowd -- the middle to the back of the packers -- that the event is really about for me. Not elite athletes, but they work so hard, many raise money for worthy causes, and surmount incredible personal challenges just to finish. To watch on Heartbreak Hill -- it's almost like you can't leave, even as the horde of runners slows to a trickle, because you want to encourage each one up the final slope. (Among other things) I am angry that some jackass coward got to upstage them on what should be their day, and rob them of that achievement. Bleh. In other news, I did enjoy the 60-250 out there. And there was a funny moment when, having been scanning the crowd for our friend Dave to come by, I finally spotted him...so I dashed across Comm Ave, high-fived him, and ran backwards up the hill to get the shot... planting myself right in front of the Official Photographer for the event. I heard him say whoa, whoa, whoa! behind me as I nearly ran into him, bum first. I didn't dare turn around... just got my shot dashed off. I hope he doesn't share the unflattering photo of my backside... lol... -c On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Christine, A very nice set. I love the guy with the Easter Basket, and the others in costumes. A good set from a sad day. We have a sportscaster on TV here in Chicago. (Mike Adamle) A leading rusher in the Big Ten in the late 60's who had a short career in pro football - a tough guy. He's run the Boston Marathon and Chicago as well. He had some trouble keeping his composure last night. When he started talking about how it was such a big deal to the runners and their families who would travel to watch, and how they had missed the opportunity to finish, he broke into tears. A sad day. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Though the photos on the front page of today's Boston Globe tell a different story, these are the images I want to remember from yesterday. It's a loosely edited bunch, since I'm also sharing with friends family who are pictured, so pardon the lack of brevity. These are scenes from Heartbreak Hill, about 6 miles from the finish line. It totally sucks that the triumphs of these runners will be overlooked -- their accomplishments stand in stark contrast to the actions of the cowards who caused yesterday's tragedy. Enjoy. http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157633256477901/ -c -- http://christinenielsen.com http://www.facebook.com/ChristineNielsenPhotography -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://christinenielsen.com http://www.facebook.com/ChristineNielsenPhotography -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his, death)
From: Paul Stenquist Ansel's BW images stand out as a result of his darkroom mastery. His printing often involved dozens of dodge and burn steps using masks. That kind of control would be near impossible in optical color printing where exposure levels affect colors differently. Converting his color prints to BW couldn't possibly produce results in any way comparable to his own BW prints. Perhaps even more so, as I'm pretty sure most of his color photography was made with Kodachrome. Anyone know of work Adams did with color negative film? I don't, but if there is, I'd appreciate a link. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his, death)
On 4/16/13 4:41 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Paul Stenquist Ansel's BW images stand out as a result of his darkroom mastery. His printing often involved dozens of dodge and burn steps using masks. That kind of control would be near impossible in optical color printing where exposure levels affect colors differently. Converting his color prints to BW couldn't possibly produce results in any way comparable to his own BW prints. Perhaps even more so, as I'm pretty sure most of his color photography was made with Kodachrome. Anyone know of work Adams did with color negative film? I don't, but if there is, I'd appreciate a link. Google Ansel Adams Polaroid for a good time. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)
On Apr 16, 2013, at 12:33 , Paul Stenquist wrote: Ansel's BW images stand out as a result of his darkroom mastery. Afraid I have to stand with Paul and Darren on this. I've been in Ansel's darkroom. He was a remarkable warm and friendly gent who, behind that persona, was a fussy old artist who knew what he wanted to show you when he took the shot. Even if it took hours to fuss over a single print with his dodging and burning tools, many of which were made specifically for that print. Once he nailed the drill, reading instructions, his assistants (sons) could reproduce his prints while he went on to shoot, give lectures, drink tea, and chat with his friends. I was just fortunate to be going to school in San Francisco 66-70, with Imogen Cunningham as one of my teachers, FSA and OWI photog John Collier another, who both just so happened to know Ansel pretty well. This is what they looked like while I was in school. Ansel Adams and Imogen Cunningham Awarding Jerry Uelsmann The Title of Honorary West Coast Photographer At Weston Beach, Point Lobos. http://www.tedorland.com/classic/aa_ic_ju.html John Collier portrait taken around 1968. http://americanimage.unm.edu/biography.html This photo of Imogen and Ansel was taken 5 years after I graduated and was back east in Massachusetts. http://phototechmag.com/the-zone-system/ All three are gone now, of course, but their names will live on forever in the history of photography. Joseph McAllister Pentaxian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Apr 16, 2013, at 15:05 , Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I'm getting an error page when I try to download this by the supplied link. Is this what you guys are seeing too? https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_lightroom5 We're sorry, we encountered an error processing your request. Sorry, the download is working for me. It just started working for me too. Transient overload or site problem fixed? Whatever! :-) -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT - Critique of Monkey Farter
Brilliant. http://hyperallergic.com/68920/art-or-monkey-fart/ -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)
I agree, Ann. I imagine his dramatic style had a bit to do with the vivid landscape choice in the BW converter. Jack From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:18 PM Subject: Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death) One thing I found really fascinating in the video, Ansel often boosted the contrast way up. Especially on his most well-known photos. If he had done that in color it would have been immediately noticeable. In other words, he was a Photoshopper well before there was a Photoshop. So, yes, Rob he probably would have loved digital. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 4/16/2013 12:24:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pixelsmi...@gmail.com writes: There's a lot of converstation going on between your ears, John, that didn't come out of my mouth. I shoot color. If I were disparaging anyone I would have to include myself as one who needed to be disparaged. But that's not what I'm doing. Occasionally I find an image that I think would look better in BW and I'm generally pleased with the results and often prefer it to the color version. My point was that Ansel Adam's BW imagery made him an icon. He chose the same subject matter for his color work. Is there really anyone among us who look at those color images of his and think they are head and shoulders above anything you have seen elsewhere? Or that he would have become an icon if he had only his color work to show? There is a reason that the colorizing of black and white films bothers people. A lot of people. It is because there is a different aesthetic at work in black and white. Ansel himself refers to it as an interpretation of reality (whereas color photography is mostly just reality). Sometimes reality is impressive enough - one reason that cliches like sunrises/sunsets are so enjoyable to us. Few would claim that a sunset in black white is going to have more impact than the color version. It has nothing to do with being inferior. Take any of those color images of Ansel Adams and convert it to BW (applying Adam's Zone System for best dynamic range) and ask 100 people which image has more gravitas and I guarantee you that the majority of those who understand the meaning of the word will choose the BW. That's all I'm saying, and you are free to disagree or to get any degree of frostburn they would like by extrapolating from my comments, rather than just taking them at face value. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:06 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: I disagree, too. But what really frosts me about the statement is the implicit arrogance that assumes anyone who generally prefers colour to BW images is just plain wrong, and an inferior being incapable of appreciating the true value of the work. If you like BW images, fine. But it should be possible for you to enjoy them without disparaging those who don't. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 02:54:45PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote: Two words: Afghan Girl. IOW, I disagree. :-) On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Ansel's color images are nice enough but they illustrate, in a way that few other things can, how color images can never have the gravitas of a good BW image. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1932762,00.html worth a look! On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:41 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: A few years ago there was an exhibit of various photographers work at the local museum. Several 8x10 color transparencies were on display (Kodachrome, if I remember correctly.) They were on a large light table, back lit, of course. I was surprised to see that were Adam's work. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:37 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I had the same thought. But since he preferred BW, he probably would have found the first digital cameras disappointing for BW. Although he did shoot some in color too. Marnie aka Doe I really got a lot ouf of the interview. In a message dated 4/15/2013 4:38:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, distudio.p...@gmail.com writes: He could see the potential in digital image capture even at that early stage, one wonders what amazing work he could have produced with the new medium. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his, death)
Google Ansel Adams Polaroid for a good time. Coincidentally, that is almost the exact same thing I read on the plant bathroom stall at work earlier today. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: On 4/16/13 4:41 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Paul Stenquist Ansel's BW images stand out as a result of his darkroom mastery. His printing often involved dozens of dodge and burn steps using masks. That kind of control would be near impossible in optical color printing where exposure levels affect colors differently. Converting his color prints to BW couldn't possibly produce results in any way comparable to his own BW prints. Perhaps even more so, as I'm pretty sure most of his color photography was made with Kodachrome. Anyone know of work Adams did with color negative film? I don't, but if there is, I'd appreciate a link. Google Ansel Adams Polaroid for a good time. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his, death)
On 4/16/13 4:44 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: On 4/16/13 4:41 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Paul Stenquist Ansel's BW images stand out as a result of his darkroom mastery. His printing often involved dozens of dodge and burn steps using masks. That kind of control would be near impossible in optical color printing where exposure levels affect colors differently. Converting his color prints to BW couldn't possibly produce results in any way comparable to his own BW prints. Perhaps even more so, as I'm pretty sure most of his color photography was made with Kodachrome. Anyone know of work Adams did with color negative film? I don't, but if there is, I'd appreciate a link. Google Ansel Adams Polaroid for a good time. It's, of course, not color negative, and much of his BW stuff was shot on Polaroid film. I should probably pay attention to what I'm reading. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Rennes station, Dag inspired
15. apr. 2013 kl. 02:09 skrev Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com: My flow of PESOs (always fitful) was interrupted by work on our inpatient service and a meeting in Minneapolis (where it snowed all 4 days I was there). So let's go back to France. Someone commented that they would be interested in seeing a version of my Rennes station photo without the retreating jeans-clad figure. So, inspired by our resident minimalist Dag, I offer this exposure, taken just after the one posted: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17113554 The original photo: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17094516 I like the Dag-inspired one better... at the moment. Comments appreciated. I´m honored :-) I might have cut even more on the left and correspondingly at the bottom, but the ladies legs and red colour where great. DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)
Paul's comment is thought provoking because with today's tools, it IS possible to do similar manipulations in color. The problem is that it is easy to push the needle too far and then people react negatively to the image (as in not realistic, photoshopped, oversharpened, etc.). That in itself indicates (to me) that we are wired to treat color images as representative of reality and if we go beyond a certain point in post-processin most of us will object to the image as faked or unrealistic. It doesn't seem to me that (other than solarization or other radical treatments in BW) that monochrome images have that same baggage to contend with, even though they may be manipulated as AA did in the darkroom. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I agree, Ann. I imagine his dramatic style had a bit to do with the vivid landscape choice in the BW converter. Jack From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:18 PM Subject: Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death) One thing I found really fascinating in the video, Ansel often boosted the contrast way up. Especially on his most well-known photos. If he had done that in color it would have been immediately noticeable. In other words, he was a Photoshopper well before there was a Photoshop. So, yes, Rob he probably would have loved digital. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 4/16/2013 12:24:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pixelsmi...@gmail.com writes: There's a lot of converstation going on between your ears, John, that didn't come out of my mouth. I shoot color. If I were disparaging anyone I would have to include myself as one who needed to be disparaged. But that's not what I'm doing. Occasionally I find an image that I think would look better in BW and I'm generally pleased with the results and often prefer it to the color version. My point was that Ansel Adam's BW imagery made him an icon. He chose the same subject matter for his color work. Is there really anyone among us who look at those color images of his and think they are head and shoulders above anything you have seen elsewhere? Or that he would have become an icon if he had only his color work to show? There is a reason that the colorizing of black and white films bothers people. A lot of people. It is because there is a different aesthetic at work in black and white. Ansel himself refers to it as an interpretation of reality (whereas color photography is mostly just reality). Sometimes reality is impressive enough - one reason that cliches like sunrises/sunsets are so enjoyable to us. Few would claim that a sunset in black white is going to have more impact than the color version. It has nothing to do with being inferior. Take any of those color images of Ansel Adams and convert it to BW (applying Adam's Zone System for best dynamic range) and ask 100 people which image has more gravitas and I guarantee you that the majority of those who understand the meaning of the word will choose the BW. That's all I'm saying, and you are free to disagree or to get any degree of frostburn they would like by extrapolating from my comments, rather than just taking them at face value. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:06 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: I disagree, too. But what really frosts me about the statement is the implicit arrogance that assumes anyone who generally prefers colour to BW images is just plain wrong, and an inferior being incapable of appreciating the true value of the work. If you like BW images, fine. But it should be possible for you to enjoy them without disparaging those who don't. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 02:54:45PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote: Two words: Afghan Girl. IOW, I disagree. :-) On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Ansel's color images are nice enough but they illustrate, in a way that few other things can, how color images can never have the gravitas of a good BW image. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1932762,00.html worth a look! On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:41 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: A few years ago there was an exhibit of various photographers work at the local museum. Several 8x10 color transparencies were on display (Kodachrome, if I remember correctly.) They were on a large light table, back lit, of course. I was surprised to see that were Adam's work. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:37 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I had the same thought. But since he preferred BW, he probably would have found the first digital cameras disappointing
Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Apr 16, 2013, at 15:05 , Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I'm getting an error page when I try to download this by the supplied link. Is this what you guys are seeing too? https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_lightroom5 We're sorry, we encountered an error processing your request. Sorry, the download is working for me. It just started working for me too. Transient overload or site problem fixed? Whatever! :-) In case anyone else runs into this: I wasn't out of the woods until I first successfully logged-in with my Adobe ID. The error messages were misleading. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)
I've seen a lot of BW images lately that have that nasty, crispy, overcooked-HDR look to them, so it's not only possible but being done. We need to squint and move the sliders back and forth between Zero-Effect and Yikes-OMG until we reach somewhere inside the Happy-Medium point. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Paul's comment is thought provoking because with today's tools, it IS possible to do similar manipulations in color. The problem is that it is easy to push the needle too far and then people react negatively to the image (as in not realistic, photoshopped, oversharpened, etc.). That in itself indicates (to me) that we are wired to treat color images as representative of reality and if we go beyond a certain point in post-processin most of us will object to the image as faked or unrealistic. It doesn't seem to me that (other than solarization or other radical treatments in BW) that monochrome images have that same baggage to contend with, even though they may be manipulated as AA did in the darkroom. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I agree, Ann. I imagine his dramatic style had a bit to do with the vivid landscape choice in the BW converter. Jack From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:18 PM Subject: Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death) One thing I found really fascinating in the video, Ansel often boosted the contrast way up. Especially on his most well-known photos. If he had done that in color it would have been immediately noticeable. In other words, he was a Photoshopper well before there was a Photoshop. So, yes, Rob he probably would have loved digital. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 4/16/2013 12:24:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pixelsmi...@gmail.com writes: There's a lot of converstation going on between your ears, John, that didn't come out of my mouth. I shoot color. If I were disparaging anyone I would have to include myself as one who needed to be disparaged. But that's not what I'm doing. Occasionally I find an image that I think would look better in BW and I'm generally pleased with the results and often prefer it to the color version. My point was that Ansel Adam's BW imagery made him an icon. He chose the same subject matter for his color work. Is there really anyone among us who look at those color images of his and think they are head and shoulders above anything you have seen elsewhere? Or that he would have become an icon if he had only his color work to show? There is a reason that the colorizing of black and white films bothers people. A lot of people. It is because there is a different aesthetic at work in black and white. Ansel himself refers to it as an interpretation of reality (whereas color photography is mostly just reality). Sometimes reality is impressive enough - one reason that cliches like sunrises/sunsets are so enjoyable to us. Few would claim that a sunset in black white is going to have more impact than the color version. It has nothing to do with being inferior. Take any of those color images of Ansel Adams and convert it to BW (applying Adam's Zone System for best dynamic range) and ask 100 people which image has more gravitas and I guarantee you that the majority of those who understand the meaning of the word will choose the BW. That's all I'm saying, and you are free to disagree or to get any degree of frostburn they would like by extrapolating from my comments, rather than just taking them at face value. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:06 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: I disagree, too. But what really frosts me about the statement is the implicit arrogance that assumes anyone who generally prefers colour to BW images is just plain wrong, and an inferior being incapable of appreciating the true value of the work. If you like BW images, fine. But it should be possible for you to enjoy them without disparaging those who don't. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 02:54:45PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote: Two words: Afghan Girl. IOW, I disagree. :-) On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Ansel's color images are nice enough but they illustrate, in a way that few other things can, how color images can never have the gravitas of a good BW image. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1932762,00.html worth a look! On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:41 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: A few years ago there was an exhibit of various photographers work at the local museum. Several 8x10 color transparencies were on display (Kodachrome, if I remember correctly.) They were on a large light
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)
That's true, Bruce. I agree with you. I was comparing the old darkroom way of dodging burning to the new way of doing the same thing with color images in digital. But you are certainly correct, you can dial monochrome digital images to eleven in post-processing also. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I've seen a lot of BW images lately that have that nasty, crispy, overcooked-HDR look to them, so it's not only possible but being done. We need to squint and move the sliders back and forth between Zero-Effect and Yikes-OMG until we reach somewhere inside the Happy-Medium point. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Paul's comment is thought provoking because with today's tools, it IS possible to do similar manipulations in color. The problem is that it is easy to push the needle too far and then people react negatively to the image (as in not realistic, photoshopped, oversharpened, etc.). That in itself indicates (to me) that we are wired to treat color images as representative of reality and if we go beyond a certain point in post-processin most of us will object to the image as faked or unrealistic. It doesn't seem to me that (other than solarization or other radical treatments in BW) that monochrome images have that same baggage to contend with, even though they may be manipulated as AA did in the darkroom. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I agree, Ann. I imagine his dramatic style had a bit to do with the vivid landscape choice in the BW converter. Jack From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:18 PM Subject: Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death) One thing I found really fascinating in the video, Ansel often boosted the contrast way up. Especially on his most well-known photos. If he had done that in color it would have been immediately noticeable. In other words, he was a Photoshopper well before there was a Photoshop. So, yes, Rob he probably would have loved digital. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 4/16/2013 12:24:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pixelsmi...@gmail.com writes: There's a lot of converstation going on between your ears, John, that didn't come out of my mouth. I shoot color. If I were disparaging anyone I would have to include myself as one who needed to be disparaged. But that's not what I'm doing. Occasionally I find an image that I think would look better in BW and I'm generally pleased with the results and often prefer it to the color version. My point was that Ansel Adam's BW imagery made him an icon. He chose the same subject matter for his color work. Is there really anyone among us who look at those color images of his and think they are head and shoulders above anything you have seen elsewhere? Or that he would have become an icon if he had only his color work to show? There is a reason that the colorizing of black and white films bothers people. A lot of people. It is because there is a different aesthetic at work in black and white. Ansel himself refers to it as an interpretation of reality (whereas color photography is mostly just reality). Sometimes reality is impressive enough - one reason that cliches like sunrises/sunsets are so enjoyable to us. Few would claim that a sunset in black white is going to have more impact than the color version. It has nothing to do with being inferior. Take any of those color images of Ansel Adams and convert it to BW (applying Adam's Zone System for best dynamic range) and ask 100 people which image has more gravitas and I guarantee you that the majority of those who understand the meaning of the word will choose the BW. That's all I'm saying, and you are free to disagree or to get any degree of frostburn they would like by extrapolating from my comments, rather than just taking them at face value. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:06 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: I disagree, too. But what really frosts me about the statement is the implicit arrogance that assumes anyone who generally prefers colour to BW images is just plain wrong, and an inferior being incapable of appreciating the true value of the work. If you like BW images, fine. But it should be possible for you to enjoy them without disparaging those who don't. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 02:54:45PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote: Two words: Afghan Girl. IOW, I disagree. :-) On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Ansel's color images are nice enough but they illustrate, in a way that few other things can, how color images can never have the gravitas of a good BW image. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote:
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)
That is sooo cool, Joseph. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 4/16/2013 1:46:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pentax...@mac.com writes: On Apr 16, 2013, at 12:33 , Paul Stenquist wrote: Ansel's BW images stand out as a result of his darkroom mastery. Afraid I have to stand with Paul and Darren on this. I've been in Ansel's darkroom. He was a remarkable warm and friendly gent who, behind that persona, was a fussy old artist who knew what he wanted to show you when he took the shot. Even if it took hours to fuss over a single print with his dodging and burning tools, many of which were made specifically for that print. Once he nailed the drill, reading instructions, his assistants (sons) could reproduce his prints while he went on to shoot, give lectures, drink tea, and chat with his friends. I was just fortunate to be going to school in San Francisco 66-70, with Imogen Cunningham as one of my teachers, FSA and OWI photog John Collier another, who both just so happened to know Ansel pretty well. This is what they looked like while I was in school. Ansel Adams and Imogen Cunningham Awarding Jerry Uelsmann The Title of Honorary West Coast Photographer At Weston Beach, Point Lobos. http://www.tedorland.com/classic/aa_ic_ju.html John Collier portrait taken around 1968. http://americanimage.unm.edu/biography.html This photo of Imogen and Ansel was taken 5 years after I graduated and was back east in Massachusetts. http://phototechmag.com/the-zone-system/ All three are gone now, of course, but their names will live on forever in the history of photography. Joseph McAllister Pentaxian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available
I'm still on 2.X something. Maybe it's time to upgrade. M aka D :-) In a message dated 4/15/2013 2:51:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, m...@pobox.com writes: The most detailed change list I've seen so far is from Victoria Bampton (The Lightroom Queen): http://www.lightroomqueen.com/2013/04/15/whats-new-in-lightroom-5-0-beta/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Ansel Adams 1983 BBC interview (1 year before his death)
So that's where the idea of masking came from. A darkroom technique. D'uh. Marnie aka Doe :-) Well said. In a message dated 4/16/2013 12:33:25 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes: Ansel's BW images stand out as a result of his darkroom mastery. His printing often involved dozens of dodge and burn steps using masks. That kind of control would be near impossible in optical color printing where exposure levels affect colors differently. Converting his color prints to BW couldn't possibly produce results in any way comparable to his own BW prints. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Abandoned factory panorama
Very cool. To me it seems odd that it is so brightly lit, but it is odd in a good way. Mark On 4/11/2013 11:32 PM, David Parsons wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8641958744/ I went out exploring a local factory that has abandoned for a while. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Me, my K-5 and my Q - coming to the USA
.. the western part, anyway. During May and early June my wife and I, together with our two adult sons Chris and Jeff, will be taking a road and rail trip around the western USA (Chris' partner Cassie will be joining us towards the end of the trip). We'll be starting in Los Angeles and heading though the South-west before turning north into the Rockies, up into Montana, across to Washington and Oregon and finally returning south to our starting point. Here's a map of the trip (prepared by Chris): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/WesternUSA-blog.jpg It's going to be a hectic 6 weeks with only 1-2 night stop-overs along the way. However, if anyone's interested in a meet-up, we'll be in San Francisco for 5 nights towards the end of May and staying with friends at Ojai, near Ventura, for 4 nights in early June. So, if anyone in or near those areas have an hour or two to spare, it would be great to catch up over a cup of coffee and a few photos. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available
Yes Dave On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 5:24 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I'm still on 2.X something. Maybe it's time to upgrade. M aka D :-) In a message dated 4/15/2013 2:51:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, m...@pobox.com writes: The most detailed change list I've seen so far is from Victoria Bampton (The Lightroom Queen): http://www.lightroomqueen.com/2013/04/15/whats-new-in-lightroom-5-0-beta/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Me, my K-5 and my Q - coming to the USA
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 08:17:17AM +1000, Brian Walters wrote: .. the western part, anyway. During May and early June my wife and I, together with our two adult sons Chris and Jeff, will be taking a road and rail trip around the western USA (Chris' partner Cassie will be joining us towards the end of the trip). We'll be starting in Los Angeles and heading though the South-west before turning north into the Rockies, up into Montana, across to Washington and Oregon and finally returning south to our starting point. Here's a map of the trip (prepared by Chris): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/WesternUSA-blog.jpg Very cool! That looks like an awesome trip. There is a lot of very cool stuff in Portland: Powell's books food trucks psycho donuts The rismksy korsacoffee house If you are into Mead, last time I was there Arcata had about five different meaderies There are several of us Bay Area PDMLers. If you need a base of operations down in the Santa Cruz mountains, let me know. Depending on timing, it will either be very convenient or a bit crowded at our house. There is going to be a dance camp at my house over Memorial Day weekend (May 22-27) But afterwards it'll still be all set up for hosting lots of visitors. The drive from SF to Ojai looks like it goes down 101. There is some spectacular scenery a bit west of there, heading down hwy 1. Though it does take a bit longer to drive. In Ojai, definitely check out the open air book store. It's going to be a hectic 6 weeks with only 1-2 night stop-overs along the way. However, if anyone's interested in a meet-up, we'll be in San Francisco for 5 nights towards the end of May and staying with friends at Ojai, near Ventura, for 4 nights in early June. So, if anyone in or near those areas have an hour or two to spare, it would be great to catch up over a cup of coffee and a few photos. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available
+1 On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 6:21 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Dave On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 5:24 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I'm still on 2.X something. Maybe it's time to upgrade. M aka D :-) In a message dated 4/15/2013 2:51:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, m...@pobox.com writes: The most detailed change list I've seen so far is from Victoria Bampton (The Lightroom Queen): http://www.lightroomqueen.com/2013/04/15/whats-new-in-lightroom-5-0-beta/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available
Wow, these updates look fun. Looking forward to the upgrade. Cheers, Christine On Apr 15, 2013, at 2:41 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: The public beta of Lightroom 5 is available for download: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom5/ New Features in Lightroom 5 Beta Advanced Healing Brush – Easily remove objects and fix defects—even those with irregular shapes such as threads or lint—with a single brush stroke. Take precise control over what's being removed as you make unwanted objects just disappear. Upright – Straighten tilted images with a single click. Upright analyzes images and detects skewed horizontal or vertical lines. You choose one of four correction methods, and Upright can even straighten images where the horizon is hidden. Radial Gradient – Lead your viewer's eye through your images with more flexibility and control. The radial gradient tool lets you create off-center vignette effects, or multiple vignette areas within a single image. Offline editing with Smart Previews – Easily work with images without bringing your entire library with you. Just generate smaller stand-in files called Smart Previews. Make adjustments or metadata additions to Smart Previews and your changes will be automatically applied to the full-size originals later. Video slideshow sharing – Easily share your work in elegant video slideshows. Combine still images, video clips, and music in creative HD videos that can be viewed on almost any computer or device. Improved photo book creation – Create beautiful photo books from your images. Lightroom includes a variety of easy-to-use book templates, and now you can edit them to create a customized look. Upload your book for printing with just a few clicks. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Knuckle Duster
That makes more sense. I'm thinking, But I thought backgrounds are ~supposed~ to be fuzzy! ;-) I wish the background were less fuzzy, too. Of the six frames I took this was the cleanest. Thanks for looking and commenting, and thanks to the others for commenting and to everyone who looked. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: kwal...@peoplepc.com Sent: April 16, 2013 4/16/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Knuckle Duster Fuzzy should be fussy. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: kwal...@peoplepc.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 12:03 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Knuckle Duster Very nice capture of the rider his bike. I wish the background was less fuzzy. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Knuckle Duster My buddy Mark and his new Knuckle Duster: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/04/knuckle-duster.html?m=1 That's the brand of bike. Surprisingly it's Italian; I've never heard of it (hardly one of the classics) but apparently they're made in Venice of all places. But that's not why I like the photo. It's got sort of a - well I won't say what sort of feel this has but I just like the way this turned out. Hope you do, too. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank For me, the camera is a sketch book, an instrument of intuition and spontaneity. -- Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Dad, the Philco and a Swivel Chair - 1959
Looks just like my dad did back then! Mind you I think everyone's dad looked just like that in 1959. ;-) Great pic, quite the momento. Too bad you couldn't keep a bit of that armchair in the frame after the straightening. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com Sent: April 15, 2013 4/15/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Dad, the Philco and a Swivel Chair - 1959 Sometimes the stuff in the background of and old photo is as interesting as the original subject. Just a couple of personal observations. http://george-sinos.squarespace.com/blog/2013/4/13/dad-and-the-philco-1959 gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Abandoned factory panorama
I thought the lights were rather odd as well. Maybe to keep vandals, squatters and other unsavory types out? Certainly seems a waste of electricity. It really adds to the image, though. Gives it a rather surreal feel. Terrific photo! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net Sent: April 16, 2013 4/16/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Abandoned factory panorama Very cool. To me it seems odd that it is so brightly lit, but it is odd in a good way. Mark On 4/11/2013 11:32 PM, David Parsons wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/8641958744/ I went out exploring a local factory that has abandoned for a while. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Boston Marathon - Heartbreak Hill
Thanks you so much for sharing these Christine. Nice images of course! But beyond that, these and your and Mark's posts with a local's view of the bombing and all that followed help to remind me of the thousands of good normal people who had a good day: runners challenging themselves in the race, spectators cheering on friends and family and strangers, volunteers helping out . . . It will be hard for those who were maimed, and their families, and the families of those killed. And my thoughts and prayers are with them. And for the many thousands of you not directly impacted, I hope you will be able to give a virtual finger to the scum who did this, and then get on with your lives. I put your images in the virtual finger category. stan On Apr 16, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Great set, Christine! How right you are to proudly show this set of images that depict the best in personal achievement, strength, and endurance. The good guys shall prevail! Cheers, Christine Christine Aguila, Asst. Professor Communications Dept., Truman College FC4 President On Apr 16, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Thanks, Jack, Rick, Paul, Bob... I used to go to the marathon every now then as a kid, but have been faithfully attending for the past 5 years that my brother has run. It's his crowd -- the middle to the back of the packers -- that the event is really about for me. Not elite athletes, but they work so hard, many raise money for worthy causes, and surmount incredible personal challenges just to finish. To watch on Heartbreak Hill -- it's almost like you can't leave, even as the horde of runners slows to a trickle, because you want to encourage each one up the final slope. (Among other things) I am angry that some jackass coward got to upstage them on what should be their day, and rob them of that achievement. Bleh. In other news, I did enjoy the 60-250 out there. And there was a funny moment when, having been scanning the crowd for our friend Dave to come by, I finally spotted him...so I dashed across Comm Ave, high-fived him, and ran backwards up the hill to get the shot... planting myself right in front of the Official Photographer for the event. I heard him say whoa, whoa, whoa! behind me as I nearly ran into him, bum first. I didn't dare turn around... just got my shot dashed off. I hope he doesn't share the unflattering photo of my backside... lol... -c On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Christine, A very nice set. I love the guy with the Easter Basket, and the others in costumes. A good set from a sad day. We have a sportscaster on TV here in Chicago. (Mike Adamle) A leading rusher in the Big Ten in the late 60's who had a short career in pro football - a tough guy. He's run the Boston Marathon and Chicago as well. He had some trouble keeping his composure last night. When he started talking about how it was such a big deal to the runners and their families who would travel to watch, and how they had missed the opportunity to finish, he broke into tears. A sad day. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Though the photos on the front page of today's Boston Globe tell a different story, these are the images I want to remember from yesterday. It's a loosely edited bunch, since I'm also sharing with friends family who are pictured, so pardon the lack of brevity. These are scenes from Heartbreak Hill, about 6 miles from the finish line. It totally sucks that the triumphs of these runners will be overlooked -- their accomplishments stand in stark contrast to the actions of the cowards who caused yesterday's tragedy. Enjoy. http://www.flickr.com/photos/23028562@N04/sets/72157633256477901/ -c -- http://christinenielsen.com http://www.facebook.com/ChristineNielsenPhotography -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://christinenielsen.com http://www.facebook.com/ChristineNielsenPhotography -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the
Re: OT: Lightroom 5 public beta available
Damn. Note for Mac users that Mac OS X 10.7.0 or later is required. That rules out folks like me who are still on 10.6.8 for various reasons. Grumble. (Getting harder and harder to avoid an annoying upgrade, and I used to look forward to new Mac OS X upgrades.) On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: The public beta of Lightroom 5 is available for download: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom5/ New Features in Lightroom 5 Beta Advanced Healing Brush – Easily remove objects and fix defects—even those with irregular shapes such as threads or lint—with a single brush stroke. Take precise control over what's being removed as you make unwanted objects just disappear. Upright – Straighten tilted images with a single click. Upright analyzes images and detects skewed horizontal or vertical lines. You choose one of four correction methods, and Upright can even straighten images where the horizon is hidden. Radial Gradient – Lead your viewer's eye through your images with more flexibility and control. The radial gradient tool lets you create off-center vignette effects, or multiple vignette areas within a single image. Offline editing with Smart Previews – Easily work with images without bringing your entire library with you. Just generate smaller stand-in files called Smart Previews. Make adjustments or metadata additions to Smart Previews and your changes will be automatically applied to the full-size originals later. Video slideshow sharing – Easily share your work in elegant video slideshows. Combine still images, video clips, and music in creative HD videos that can be viewed on almost any computer or device. Improved photo book creation – Create beautiful photo books from your images. Lightroom includes a variety of easy-to-use book templates, and now you can edit them to create a customized look. Upload your book for printing with just a few clicks. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mango Muse (by Bong Manayon)
That is a stunning portrait, with vivid and pleasing colors. Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies to Bong, but I just have to share this image that he created from his Flickr photostream. It's a keeper. Reminds me of an image I would have seen in one of the old Kodak photography publications, back in the day. And it is shot on film. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/8651379276/in/contacts/lightbox/ -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mango Muse (by Bong Manayon)
Very nice. the composition is very interesting. On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: That is a stunning portrait, with vivid and pleasing colors. Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies to Bong, but I just have to share this image that he created from his Flickr photostream. It's a keeper. Reminds me of an image I would have seen in one of the old Kodak photography publications, back in the day. And it is shot on film. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/8651379276/in/contacts/lightbox/ -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
