Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III
On 31 May 2013 04:44, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Went back and tried night shooting the oil refinery again. This time I remembered to turn off the IS and shot with bracketing. This is not HDR, because only two of the shots in my three brackets came out semi-okay. So only used one. This is 4 seconds (or 1/4 a second, unsure how LR notes this) at f/6.3. Not trying again (right now), because this is a photo class and the deadline is coming up. But since it was intriguing I may try it again later with some other industrial plants, for myself. Play around with it. http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/pie3.htm I think this is much more successful than the previous ones. Curious if you think so too. Comments welcome. Hey Marnie, This is very good, very well balanced exposure, good WB in tricky light, sharp and an interesting view to boot. I like the vapors on the right, you could potentially use a longer lens and shoot that little area as a subject of its own. I wasn't sure about the car headlight dissecting the frame but actually i think it works well in the image intended or not. Very cool! Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Flash enablement
On 31 May 2013 08:46, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: The guide number tells you how powerful the flash. It's of no real consequence in practical shooting. To use flash manually, 0. Set the flash to manual 1. Set the ISO value on the scale on the flash 2. set the shutter speed to the flash sync speed, or lower 3. Measure the flash to subject distance - you should be able read this off the focus scale, but if you're bouncing the flash use the distance from the flash to the point on the ceiling, and double it. 4. On the flash scale, read off the correct aperture for the flash-subject distance 5. Set that aperture on your camera 6. Focus and shoot You can vary the flash output, eg for fill flash, by lying to it about the ISO. Setting the shutter speed slower than the flash sync speed gives you a bit of ambient light and some motion blur against the flash-frozen bit. Excellent basic how to Bob -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sick
On 30 May 2013 10:27, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote: Lessons learned, at least as of the moment: [1] Again, pay attention to your photo database. Visit it often. Don't assume that it's safe. Make sure it's safe. [2] Go in for all the redundancy you can take advantage of. E.g., Carbon Copy Cloner has an option that archives all modifications and deletions until there is less that fifteen Gb on the drive. I chose instead the option that deletes everything from the target that's not in the source. If I'd chosen the first option, given how much free space I had on my drives, I would've been able to recover my photo database from the CCC archive. Those are two big ones. I pretty sure there will be more in the near future. That's a hard lesson too, sorry about your loss but glad that you solved the mystery. It's so very easy to stuff up, regular back-ups are so damn important. I destroyed my image database the other day by inadvertently installing an app whilst doing a database compress which broke the pipe to the server corrupting the whole database. The database contains 260k thumbnails of on and off-line drives, fortunately I had only backed it up a week back but it still took a few hours to rebuild the thumbnails as I had shot several thousand images and needed to re-index a stack of off-line media. I won't do that again in a hurry. Best of luck with your new improved back-up regime. Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Huston, Huston, we have a mirror...
On May 30, 2013, at 6:14 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: My k-5's mirror is acting up. When I take a shot, it seems like it flips twice and the second time over it returns only partially. That is, the upper part of the image in the viewfinder is soft as if I'm looking through tilted lens. Turning off/on the power switch helps this far. I wonder what it usually costs to repair in usa and if it is indeed the infamous mirror problem? I think that the infamous mirror problem is really a power board problem, so it might be. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Car Show
On May 27, 2013, at 7:38 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Alan C Very well preserved stuff. If you get that lot at a small show, the big shows must be quite something. I like the MGA (can't see if it is a twin-cam) the MG TD which is unfortunately spoiled a bit by those non-original wheels. Alan C I wonder if it's really a MG and not a fiberfab kit? It says TD in the octagon, not MG. Also the wheels are way wrong, it also looks to be about twice the size of an MGTD (look how much taller than the vette it is). I don't know what it is about it, but it just looks wrong. The MGA is lovely. The pictures are all very nice. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 70-200 F4-5.6 FA opinions?
Wise decision. Won't upset the bank balance either. Both those lenses give good results. I mostly use my FA 100-300 for game photography. I also have a Vivitar similar to yours (A version) which I haven't really used much on the K110 but now I'll give it a spin. Alan C -Original Message- From: Steve Sharpe Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 9:32 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: 70-200 F4-5.6 FA opinions? At 2:12 PM -0500 5/30/13, Darren Addy wrote: I think that there are fewer bad lenses than there are lenses used badly. Mark! Thanks for everyone's words of wisdom. When all is said and done, I've decided to forego the 70-200 and stick with my Vivitar Series 1 70-210, and to give my FA 100-300 F4.5-5.6 another chance. -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca • http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Testing, testing 1-2-3
n 30 May 2013 10:18, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: How do we know you are The Real Chris Mitchell? Ah. But what is real in this strange virtual world we inhabit? Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Testing, testing 1-2-3
On 30 May 2013 23:31, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Throw him in the river. If he sinks, he's the real Chris Mitchell. If he floats, he's a witch and we burn him. B I demand to be put to death by the sword. I have aristocratic blood in my veins you know! CM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO A little Pano from Vivid Sydney 2013
On 30 May 2013 11:03, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Those colours! Great composition, too. Love it! Thanks Frank, I have since revisited the location, I now have a better vista of the bridge but I've lost the close in detail to the right, oh well :) On 30 May 2013 21:40, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, Your photo brings back pleasant memories of a too short visit to Sidney and your world wind tour of the harbor. I think we went by that spot. And I'm still cutting myself on that Voightlander 125mm you introduced me to. Hi Bob, I think we did go by indeed, if we went under the southern end of the bridge then on towards the Rock we would have passed the piers for sure. The V is still going strong but probably not getting as much work as it used to as are few of my Pentax lenses because I tend to be shooting my Sigma zooms mostly these days. :( Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Huston, Huston, we have a mirror...
According to CRIS, the mirror problem is a faulty motor. I believe the repair cost was quoted at around $250. However, the symptom was a repetitive clicking sound that prevented shutter actuation until the camera was switched off and turned back on again. It gradually got worse. On May 31, 2013, at 3:10 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On May 30, 2013, at 6:14 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: My k-5's mirror is acting up. When I take a shot, it seems like it flips twice and the second time over it returns only partially. That is, the upper part of the image in the viewfinder is soft as if I'm looking through tilted lens. Turning off/on the power switch helps this far. I wonder what it usually costs to repair in usa and if it is indeed the infamous mirror problem? I think that the infamous mirror problem is really a power board problem, so it might be. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
re: How far behind am I
From: Don Guthrie P.J.'s Christmas tree begs the question How far behind processing photos do you get? I am constantly finding photos on my hard drive that have been copied and loaded into Aperture but never gotten beyond raw. I also find photos that I meant to post somewhere and flag for PDML that I never did anything with. I posted something on Google+ last week realized I should post it here still have not done so. They say the butcher backed into his meat cutter got a little behind in his work. I empathize. I downloaded the card in my K20D this morning so I can format it before I leave for GFM in a couple of hours. Takes me a little over 3 hours to get there if I don't dawdle too much on the way, so I need to leave here before noon. I still had a few photos on there from the PPNC convention in march. The convention photos were already downloaded to my computer, I just didn't format the card before taking family photos on Mothers Day. I haven't been motivated to do much shooting lately. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Flash enablement
From: Walt Well, a couple of weeks after my little financial windfall at work, I finally decided I should use some of the money to join the flash photography world. So, I went down to the local brick-and-mortar camera shop in town and picked up this: http://www.amazon.com/Promaster-7500EDF-Digital-Flash-Pentax/product-reviews/B00125XY28/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_btm?ie=UTF8showViewpoints=1sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending Shorty: http://goo.gl/QQ3Kz I tested it out in the shop and it worked fine as far as I could tell. The thing is, I know jack shizzle about using flash units. Still, it seems like a well-built unit -- good heft and smooth rotation. The wireless signal worked well as best I can tell, too. So, for the time being, I feel like I got a decent deal: $169, discounted from the regular $249 price tag. When I got home, I spent the better part of the evening watching tutorials on flash photography. The problem is, they all essentially said, This is where you can use flash to get this lighting effect. There was no nitty-gritty technical detail to speak of -- as though TTL were completely reliable, which I gather isn't really the case. So, I was wondering where I might be able to learn more about shooting manual flash in the event the TTL function fails me -- something to give me an idea of when to adjust the flash output power, at what distances, etc. I know nothing about guide numbers, flash modes, or anything like that. Anybody got any suggestions to that end? Any guidance would be appreciated. I don't think it does PTTL, so it's going to be a PITA to use with K10D and later Pentax DSLRs. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Flash enablement
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/30/2013 5:46 PM, Bob W wrote: On 30 May 2013, at 18:53, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: So, I was wondering where I might be able to learn more about shooting manual flash in the event the TTL function fails me -- something to give me an idea of when to adjust the flash output power, at what distances, etc. I know nothing about guide numbers, flash modes, or anything like that. Anybody got any suggestions to that end? Any guidance would be appreciated. The guide number tells you how powerful the flash. It's of no real consequence in practical shooting. To use flash manually, 0. Set the flash to manual 1. Set the ISO value on the scale on the flash 2. set the shutter speed to the flash sync speed, or lower 3. Measure the flash to subject distance - you should be able read this off the focus scale, but if you're bouncing the flash use the distance from the flash to the point on the ceiling, and double it. 4. On the flash scale, read off the correct aperture for the flash-subject distance 5. Set that aperture on your camera 6. Focus and shoot You can vary the flash output, eg for fill flash, by lying to it about the ISO. Setting the shutter speed slower than the flash sync speed gives you a bit of ambient light and some motion blur against the flash-frozen bit. B Thanks, Bob. Although, strangely enough, there's no ISO scale on the flash as far as I can tell. None of the function buttons on the back seems to bring up any indicators. I'll have to do a little digging around to see if there's something I'm missing. Hmmm. Nothing's missing, Walt. Modern flashes don't come with the exposure guide Bob described. I don't know when they stopped adding that, but I suspect whenever the fancy *-TTL flash automation became standard. Neither the Pentax AF540 or AF360 have it. The guide is also a simple mechanical thing and couldn't take into account the zoom setting in the flash head. The Guide Number is always quoted at full power at one particular zoom, eg 50mm, and it reduces as you zoom the head wider. If you set the flash manually to the same setting as the Guide Nimber is quoted for, eg ISO 100, zoom 50mm, then you can determine the aperture for a given distance from the subject with this formula: aperture = GN / distance -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Flash enablement
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:00 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I don't think it does PTTL, so it's going to be a PITA to use with K10D and later Pentax DSLRs. The Amazon description isn't very clear, but according to mattdm's P-TTL website, the Promaster 7500EDF is indeed a P-TTL flash. http://pttl.mattdm.org/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 70-200 F4-5.6 FA opinions?
At 9:22 AM +0200 5/31/13, Alan C wrote: Wise decision. Won't upset the bank balance either. Both those lenses give good results. I mostly use my FA 100-300 for game photography. I also have a Vivitar similar to yours (A version) which I haven't really used much on the K110 but now I'll give it a spin. I bought my 100-300 off of another listmember some eight years ago and used it regularly, but my big complaint with it is that it is too slow, especially at the 300mm end. A few months ago I dug out the Series 1 (Mark's version 2) and started using that. It's an F3.5 max aperture throughout its range, so that is better, but it's manual focus (and a one-touch, which I don't really like) and non-A, so you end up fiddling wit the green button. Optically, though, it is wonderful, and the close focus ability is great to have. Down the road I'd like an F2.8 zoom in that same general range, even if it means going with a Sigma or Tamron. -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Car Show
From: Larry Colen On May 27, 2013, at 7:38 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Alan C Very well preserved stuff. If you get that lot at a small show, the big shows must be quite something. I like the MGA (can't see if it is a twin-cam) the MG TD which is unfortunately spoiled a bit by those non-original wheels. Alan C I wonder if it's really a MG and not a fiberfab kit? It says TD in the octagon, not MG. Also the wheels are way wrong, it also looks to be about twice the size of an MGTD (look how much taller than the vette it is). I don't know what it is about it, but it just looks wrong. The MGA is lovely. The pictures are all very nice. If it's the Fiberfab kit it's probably on a Volkswagen pan. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Testing, testing 1-2-3
From: Chris Mitchell On 30 May 2013 23:31, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Throw him in the river. If he sinks, he's the real Chris Mitchell. If he floats, he's a witch and we burn him. B I demand to be put to death by the sword. I have aristocratic blood in my veins you know! CM Will you settle for a letter opener? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Flash enablement
On 5/31/2013 7:12 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 8:00 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I don't think it does PTTL, so it's going to be a PITA to use with K10D and later Pentax DSLRs. The Amazon description isn't very clear, but according to mattdm's P-TTL website, the Promaster 7500EDF is indeed a P-TTL flash. http://pttl.mattdm.org/ Yeah, it even has a P-TTL written on the unit. Still, I suspect it'll be a PITA to use anyway -- at least 'til I learn what I'm doing. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Flash enablement
On 5/31/2013 7:10 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Thanks, Bob. Although, strangely enough, there's no ISO scale on the flash as far as I can tell. None of the function buttons on the back seems to bring up any indicators. I'll have to do a little digging around to see if there's something I'm missing. Hmmm. Nothing's missing, Walt. Modern flashes don't come with the exposure guide Bob described. I don't know when they stopped adding that, but I suspect whenever the fancy *-TTL flash automation became standard. Neither the Pentax AF540 or AF360 have it. The guide is also a simple mechanical thing and couldn't take into account the zoom setting in the flash head. The Guide Number is always quoted at full power at one particular zoom, eg 50mm, and it reduces as you zoom the head wider. If you set the flash manually to the same setting as the Guide Nimber is quoted for, eg ISO 100, zoom 50mm, then you can determine the aperture for a given distance from the subject with this formula: aperture = GN / distance -- -bmw Thanks, Bruce. This is where having an actual class in photography would be helpful. Being self-taught, I've relied on my ability to stumble and bumble my way into learning new tricks -- which means I have to relearn them several times before they ever sink in. I really don't know what I'd have done if I hadn't subscribed to PDML when I got my K-x. I get to crib a lot from people who know what they're talking about. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Fledgling Robin
Thank you, Bruce. Lightroom did a lot of the color work for me -- one of the few instances where Auto Tone actually improved a shot I've taken. The detail, I owe to the F 50/1.7. -- Walt On 5/30/2013 6:50 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Great detail and colour, Walt. On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Just spotted this little dude in the front yard: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8895877234/#large K-5, F 50/1.7, f/1.7, ISO160, 1/1250 It eventually hopped safely across the road with a little guidance, where I heard what I assume were the panicked cries of the mother robin. Don't know what will become of it after that as I didn't want to touch it or panic the mother even further, but I hope it'll be OK. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Fledgling Robin
Thank you, Frank. The sun was behind a thin little bit of cloud cover in the late afternoon. -- Walt On 5/30/2013 9:17 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Great shot! That light's amazing. cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Walt ldott...@gmail.com Sent: May 30, 2013 5/30/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Fledgling Robin Just spotted this little dude in the front yard: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8895877234/#large K-5, F 50/1.7, f/1.7, ISO160, 1/1250 It eventually hopped safely across the road with a little guidance, where I heard what I assume were the panicked cries of the mother robin. Don't know what will become of it after that as I didn't want to touch it or panic the mother even further, but I hope it'll be OK. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How far behind am I
On 5/31/2013 6:54 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Don Guthrie P.J.'s Christmas tree begs the question How far behind processing photos do you get? I am constantly finding photos on my hard drive that have been copied and loaded into Aperture but never gotten beyond raw. I also find photos that I meant to post somewhere and flag for PDML that I never did anything with. I posted something on Google+ last week realized I should post it here still have not done so. They say the butcher backed into his meat cutter got a little behind in his work. I empathize. I downloaded the card in my K20D this morning so I can format it before I leave for GFM in a couple of hours. Takes me a little over 3 hours to get there if I don't dawdle too much on the way, so I need to leave here before noon. I still had a few photos on there from the PPNC convention in march. The convention photos were already downloaded to my computer, I just didn't format the card before taking family photos on Mothers Day. I haven't been motivated to do much shooting lately. Wow! You guys are making me feel downright industrious! I rarely leave anything on the card more than a week, and usually get everything download and sort through everything I take within a couple of days. Of course, after a week or so, I always find images that I dismissed at first. I guess it's my rookie enthusiasm, but I'm always too anxious to see what I've gotten to let them languish on a card for more than a day or two. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Car Show
Well, hey -- if a moron can get shots like that in broad daylight at ISO 3200, he'd have to be a relatively high-functioning one, at least. -- Walt On 5/30/2013 9:24 PM, Bill wrote: Several kind people commented on my little gallery, and I thoughtlessly deleted your posts. This is not to say that I didn't appreciate the comments, it's closer to the people who call me a moron being correct. Anyway, if you commented and I didn't thank you, I apologize for my thoughtlessness, and I will try to do better next time. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Food Truck Commander
Exactly what I was going to say -- only with kindly as a qualifier. Still, I see what Paul saw. She just has a very expressive and photogenic face. -- Walt On 5/30/2013 10:42 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Reminds me of Martha Stewart. -Original Message- From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO - Food Truck Commander She does look like Aniston at that! Wonderful photo, Paul. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Sent: May 30, 2013 5/30/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Food Truck Commander +1 She looks rather like an older version of Jennifer Aniston. On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Paul, Like Dan says, good, strong portrait. Good eyes and good expression. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I keep going back to this pic of a lady food truck boss. I don't know if it's the twinkle in her eyes or the smile that spreads fully arose her face, but I find her most appealing. Shit with K-5, DA* 60-250/4 and the 560 flash at -.5. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17382632size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Fledgling Robin II
Here's a shot of the little guy I photographed yesterday, taken as I was guiding it across the road to its mother. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8901832382/#large K-5, F 50/1.7, f/1.7, ISO 160, 1/2000 sec. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Food Truck Commander
Yup, she is (appealing). Nice shot. I presume by now someone has commented on your typo, so I don't have to. Heh. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 5/29/2013 6:59:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pnstenqu...@comcast.net writes: I keep going back to this pic of a lady food truck boss. I don't know if it's the twinkle in her eyes or the smile that spreads fully arose her face, but I find her most appealing. Shit with K-5, DA* 60-250/4 and the 560 flash at -.5. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17382632size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Fledgling Robin
Nice shot. He looks brand new. M aka D In a message dated 5/30/2013 3:45:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ldott...@gmail.com writes: Just spotted this little dude in the front yard: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8895877234/#large K-5, F 50/1.7, f/1.7, ISO160, 1/1250 It eventually hopped safely across the road with a little guidance, where I heard what I assume were the panicked cries of the mother robin. Don't know what will become of it after that as I didn't want to touch it or panic the mother even further, but I hope it'll be OK. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Chicago Sun-Times axed all its photographers
Yeesh. http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20130530/NEWS06/130539987/chicago-sun-times-cuts-entire-photography-staff After the papers' suburban offices were closed earlier this year, some reporters started using mobile computer kits to do their reporting from their cars. Reporters were told last week that they needed to start taking more photos and videos to accompany their reporting, the photographers said. I hope they have really nice cameras. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How far behind am I
I show photos on PDML fairly soon after uploading them to my hard disk (I keep back up copies on a separate portable hard disk). But I get behind on GESOS, a shoot that I feel is worth a gallery rather than a PESO or two. Was going through LR one day recently and found a shoot six months ago I planned to do as a GESO. Happens all the time, because I find doing galleries more work, so I put it off. Also sometimes I just don't go through the photos well enough, and look later and find shots I like but didn't really spot the first time around. Marnie aka Doe In a message dated 5/30/2013 10:14:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, shark50...@gmail.com writes: P.J.'s Christmas tree begs the question How far behind processing photos do you get? I am constantly finding photos on my hard drive that have been copied and loaded into Aperture but never gotten beyond raw. I also find photos that I meant to post somewhere and flag for PDML that I never did anything with. I posted something on Google+ last week realized I should post it here still have not done so. They say the butcher backed into his meat cutter got a little behind in his work. I empathize. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III
Thanks, Rob. It was shown it at my photography class last night and I mentioned I was thinking of removing the car light streak. Consensus was leave it in. Security is tight at local oil refineries, and it is best to shoot them from far away if you don't want to get hassled. So I was across the freeway. I found it easier than I thought it would be. Just a matter of finding the right exposure (shutter open longer than I thought it should be. f/stop lower than I thought it should be). So I really just need more experience playing around with settings. There are lots of oil refineries in the area (San Francisco Bay Area), so I will probably try again. I have found one I may be able to get a little closer to. Appreciate comments coming from you, re your wonderful nighttime panos. Thanks. But I must say using a tripod, heavily, felt very uncreative. I like to move around a lot with a camera and try different framing on a scene quickly. But a tripod is like set up your shot first and let the camera do the work. Almost boring. I am still sorting out how I feel about that. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 5/30/2013 11:34:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, distudio.p...@gmail.com writes: Hey Marnie, This is very good, very well balanced exposure, good WB in tricky light, sharp and an interesting view to boot. I like the vapors on the right, you could potentially use a longer lens and shoot that little area as a subject of its own. I wasn't sure about the car headlight dissecting the frame but actually i think it works well in the image intended or not. Very cool! Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO A little Pano from Vivid Sydney 2013
That is great. But, you know, I don't feel the stuff you show here on the right adds all that much. Like FB version better. Take with a Grain of Salt, Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 5/29/2013 1:35:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, distudio.p...@gmail.com writes: Hi Team, I recently put this image (cropped) on my FB page, here it is uncropped and somewhat larger: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9304908/temp/IMG504322%20-%20IMG504324.j pg Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Puzzling Sign
It's not a horrible idea (first pregnancies in one's forties run risks). But mainly it seems a way for them to make money. M aka D In a message dated 5/30/2013 10:26:12 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, danmaty...@gmail.com writes: On 29 May 2013, at 21:10, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: I found this sign over the weekend in the train station, on our way to NYC. I found it a bit puzzling; perhaps someone can explain it to me. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17396092 Women are being encouraged to freeze their eggs at a relatively early age if they are going to wait a few years before conceiving (in vitro). It increases their chances of successful conception in their 40s. So the ad is suggesting that freezing your eggs at age 30 is a gift to yourself age 42. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Puzzling Sign
No, re-reading it, it should have been the other way around. 42 to 30. Makes no sense for a 42 year old to freeze HER eggs. M aka D In a message dated 5/30/2013 1:47:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, charl...@visi.com writes: TO: Emma (Age 42) FROM: Emma (Age 30) Says precisely that (sans the colons, of course). A message from the 30-year-old to the 42-year-old. Am I way off base? -Charles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Suspicious Eyes
Yup. Me too. He looks unhappy and/or paranoid. M aka D :-) In a message dated 5/30/2013 7:02:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: That's what grabbed my attention, his eyes: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/05/suspicious-eyes.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: paw updates
Chair is nice. Older, like the rain shot and the graduation shot (with woman adjusting other's tassel, nice timing), and the store shot with the bw and yellow is a real eye-catcher, very artistic. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 5/13/2013 8:48:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, christ...@caguila.com writes: Hi Everyone: The first two are new--last week and this. Nothing great, but still keeping up with the postings despite shooting so little. I shot 6 frames this week. LOL! What a photographic rut I'm in! LOL. Cheers, Christine http://www.caguila.com/paw2013 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW177 - T
Very nice. Nice expression. Your kids sure come in handy. Heh. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 5/28/2013 2:13:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, li...@thrane.name writes: A bit late this week, I had to develop it first :-) http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html Bronica SQ-A, PS180mm, Ilford HP5+, 1/60s, f/4.5 DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III
I feel exactly the same way. I can count the number of times I've used a tripod on one hand, as I generally find them to be more an encumbrance than a tool. That said, I finally broke down and got a decent one the other day when I bought my flash unit, as I'm going to be doing a family portrait session soon, and figured it would be a good idea to have one. Still, like you, I like to move around a lot when I'm shooting and a tripod starts to feel like a ball and chain pretty quickly. -- Walt On 5/31/2013 9:14 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: But I must say using a tripod, heavily, felt very uncreative. I like to move around a lot with a camera and try different framing on a scene quickly. But a tripod is like set up your shot first and let the camera do the work. Almost boring. I am still sorting out how I feel about that. Marnie aka Doe:-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe acknowledges cool reception
Maybe I am missing something, probably am, being the old foggy that I am
-- but why in the #$%! should I want to store my photos on a remote server?
I guess I think I am missing the point of cloud. I mean, thank you very
much, but I prefer storing my photos on my own computer (and back up hard
drives).
Marnie aka Doe
In a message dated 5/30/2013 12:19:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes:
Now, was that Company A ('80's) or Company I ('90's)? ;-)
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote:
So really they are saying what I learned to say at a company we both
worked
for: Thank you for your input. This of course meant that I mostly
ignored
it :-)
Gerrit
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Subject: Adobe acknowledges cool reception
Adobe finally issues a brief response to the Creative Cloud backlash.
http://blogs.adobe.com/creativecloud/our-move-to-creative-cloud-an-update/
In a nutshell:
Gosh, a few folks don't like subscription services. Who knew?
and
Golly, photographers are weird.
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Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III
Glad to know it's not just me. :-) For night shots, portraits, and macros, yeah, you definitely/usually need a tripod. But it's like, hey, cutting down on my inspiration. Or the inspiration I get by moving around. I suppose, technically, one could do set up shots first, move around all you want to try out angles, then pick a place and use a tripod there. But that wastes a lot of effort too, if those move around shots are naturally going to be blurry without a tripod. I don't know. Still thinking about it. Marnie aka Doe In a message dated 5/31/2013 7:39:06 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ldott...@gmail.com writes: I feel exactly the same way. I can count the number of times I've used a tripod on one hand, as I generally find them to be more an encumbrance than a tool. That said, I finally broke down and got a decent one the other day when I bought my flash unit, as I'm going to be doing a family portrait session soon, and figured it would be a good idea to have one. Still, like you, I like to move around a lot when I'm shooting and a tripod starts to feel like a ball and chain pretty quickly. -- Walt On 5/31/2013 9:14 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: But I must say using a tripod, heavily, felt very uncreative. I like to move around a lot with a camera and try different framing on a scene quickly. But a tripod is like set up your shot first and let the camera do the work. Almost boring. I am still sorting out how I feel about that. Marnie aka Doe:-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Chicago Sun-Times axed all its photographers
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: I hope they have really nice cameras. You bet, they even make phone calls and play Angry Birds. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Jay # 4 and 5
What he said. M aka D :-) In a message dated 5/30/2013 12:00:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jdavi...@yahoo.com writes: Can only pull up the first image. Like a lot, David. Jack - Original Message - From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net; Petch Dianne dianne.pe...@yahoo.com; Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com; Darryl Button butto...@mmm.ca; David Button butt...@mmm.ca Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 2:56 PM Subject: Peso Jay # 4 and 5 More from the lilac series. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17396533 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=173965335 K-5, D FA 50-200 AF360 at -1.0 EV Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Waiting
My reaction is, would have been a great shot if you hadn't chopped off his hand. Would like more of him and less of bag on other side. People in waiting background help make it. HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 5/30/2013 9:53:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, shark50...@gmail.com writes: In the waiting room, Penn Station, Newark, NJ http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17398639 Comments are invited Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III
On May 31, 2013, at 09:44 , eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Glad to know it's not just me. :-) For night shots, portraits, and macros, yeah, you definitely/usually need a tripod. But it's like, hey, cutting down on my inspiration. Or the inspiration I get by moving around. I suppose, technically, one could do set up shots first, move around all you want to try out angles, then pick a place and use a tripod there. But that wastes a lot of effort too, if those move around shots are naturally going to be blurry without a tripod. I have one of these stuffed in my bag: http://www.amazon.com/Pedco-UltraPod-Lightweight-Camera-Tripod/dp/B000ANCPNM It's not as stable as a regular tripod, but it's good enough to get your camera strapped to something or set on something so you can aim it correctly. That way you can be spontaneous and you're not lugging around 20 pounds of maybe I'll need this. Granted - with the K5 and the 16-50, that's a fair amount of weight on this tiny thing so I don't find myself strapping that combo to vertical poles much! Also: I like this shot you did. Great lighting and exposure. Like I think Paul mentioned, I might rotate it a bit to square it up but that's about it. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III
Har, I just wrote about tripods and their creative effect, maybe I should put it on a blog. On 1 June 2013 00:55, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On May 31, 2013, at 09:44 , eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Glad to know it's not just me. :-) For night shots, portraits, and macros, yeah, you definitely/usually need a tripod. But it's like, hey, cutting down on my inspiration. Or the inspiration I get by moving around. I suppose, technically, one could do set up shots first, move around all you want to try out angles, then pick a place and use a tripod there. But that wastes a lot of effort too, if those move around shots are naturally going to be blurry without a tripod. I have one of these stuffed in my bag: http://www.amazon.com/Pedco-UltraPod-Lightweight-Camera-Tripod/dp/B000ANCPNM It's not as stable as a regular tripod, but it's good enough to get your camera strapped to something or set on something so you can aim it correctly. That way you can be spontaneous and you're not lugging around 20 pounds of maybe I'll need this. Granted - with the K5 and the 16-50, that's a fair amount of weight on this tiny thing so I don't find myself strapping that combo to vertical poles much! Also: I like this shot you did. Great lighting and exposure. Like I think Paul mentioned, I might rotate it a bit to square it up but that's about it. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III
Thanks, Charles, re photo (already minimally rotated, but wasn't going to repost just for that). Hey, that's kind of cool (re mini mini pod). Going to look into that. THANKS. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 5/31/2013 7:57:16 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, charl...@visi.com writes: I have one of these stuffed in my bag: http://www.amazon.com/Pedco-UltraPod-Lightweight-Camera-Tripod/dp/B000ANCPNM It's not as stable as a regular tripod, but it's good enough to get your camera strapped to something or set on something so you can aim it correctly. That way you can be spontaneous and you're not lugging around 20 pounds of maybe I'll need this. Granted - with the K5 and the 16-50, that's a fair amount of weight on this tiny thing so I don't find myself strapping that combo to vertical poles much! Also: I like this shot you did. Great lighting and exposure. Like I think Paul mentioned, I might rotate it a bit to square it up but that's about it. -Charles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III
I would certainly be interested how they SPUR creativity. Heh. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 5/31/2013 7:59:47 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, distudio.p...@gmail.com writes: Har, I just wrote about tripods and their creative effect, maybe I should put it on a blog. On 1 June 2013 00:55, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On May 31, 2013, at 09:44 , eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Glad to know it's not just me. :-) For night shots, portraits, and macros, yeah, you definitely/usually need a tripod. But it's like, hey, cutting down on my inspiration. Or the inspiration I get by moving around. I suppose, technically, one could do set up shots first, move around all you want to try out angles, then pick a place and use a tripod there. But that wastes a lot of effort too, if those move around shots are naturally going to be blurry without a tripod. I have one of these stuffed in my bag: http://www.amazon.com/Pedco-UltraPod-Lightweight-Camera-Tripod/dp/B000ANCPNM It's not as stable as a regular tripod, but it's good enough to get your camera strapped to something or set on something so you can aim it correctly. That way you can be spontaneous and you're not lugging around 20 pounds of maybe I'll need this. Granted - with the K5 and the 16-50, that's a fair amount of weight on this tiny thing so I don't find myself strapping that combo to vertical poles much! Also: I like this shot you did. Great lighting and exposure. Like I think Paul mentioned, I might rotate it a bit to square it up but that's about it. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Savanna, Illinois
Lovely GESO. Love the animals. Auction is very interesting too. I keep getting the feeling maybe I should try PAWS or at least get out and do more photography more. Yup, your a source of inspiration and encouragement on that. :-) Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 5/27/2013 7:49:46 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, christ...@caguila.com writes: Hi Everyone: Without a preplanned destination, Darrel I jumped in the car and headed west today. We ended up in Savanna, Illinois which is on the Mississippi River. We didn't really stay long--just looked at the mighty river, then headed back home. We drove back roads, enjoying the unending site of farms and small towns. Nice way to clear the head after such a difficult 5 months. We're home now and headed for bed. Just 5 snaps from the car ride today. Cheers, Christine http://www.caguila.com/savanna/index.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bartending's Dark Side
Hadn't seen this one yet. Oh, wow, that is a powerful photo. Marnie aka DoeYou really should do a series from the bar. In a message dated 5/20/2013 11:46:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ldott...@gmail.com writes: You see a lot of things working in a dive bar like the club where I work -- the best and worst of people. The guy on the left is David -- a bear of a man and local tough man contest legend. I've known him since I was probably 12 years old, and when he's sober, he's one of the most softhearted people you could ever hope to meet. But, when he drinks, he's extremely tough to deal with. The guy on the right is Glenn (the same Glenn with the full beard and world-weary expression I've posted photos of before). He's one of David's best friends. And, to be sure, he's no walk in the park when he's drunk. Well, this particular night, they were both drunk, and David decided it was time to let Glenn know who the bull of the herd is. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8757901365/ K-5, F 50/1.7, f/3.2, ISO 3200, 1/100 sec They go through this little ritual on a fairly regular basis and it makes for some pretty long nights at work sometimes. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
How to clean an add-on lens?
Some people have got excellent results with WINDEX. Now there are some (3) varieties of Windex and I am not sure which is the best one to use on a lens. They will not damage the lens coating for sure as I used some on my binocs. Regards. Bipin - from that far away enchanting land. PS: You got Mud on your face ... Queen - for all those guys talking about Hydrofluoric Acid - We will we will rock you -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Needs a Title
What she said re placement. Don't think I have a good title -- Windows Vista, is yes, probably TOO apt. Heh. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 5/28/2013 1:57:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, christ...@caguila.com writes: Very funny, Jack! Really got a giggle looking at this one. The birds are perfectly placed. Love it! Cheers, Christine On May 27, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: That's great fun! On 27 May 2013, at 14:27, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=695 Thanks, Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: VESO - Simon and Debs Wedding
Too many good ones to comment on. :-) Really love the car and the boats. I guess if I were to pick one as a standout, it would be the little boy watching the cake cutting, making sure he's getting a big piece. :-) Marnie aka Doe In a message dated 5/28/2013 1:26:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, co...@seeingeye.tv writes: At the risk of boring anyone to tears, Alma and I went to a friend's wedding on Saturday and I shot a load of stuff on video for them (yet to edit!) but managed to grab some candids. Tried to avoid doing whatever the official snapper was doing, here are some results. Note you can speed through very easily. Venue is the Cherwell Boat House, Oxford, and yes that is a mark 2 jaguar and yes the location has been used in Inspector Morse! http://cottycam.posthaven.com/simon-and-debs-wedding-oxford-may-2013 -- Cheers, Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Suspicious Eyes
Well it's a hard rock life or so the song goes. He looks like W.C. Fields grandson. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 4 Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 02:01:56 + (UTC) From:knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com To:PDML@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Suspicious Eyes Message-ID: 48655282.13671.1369965725400.javamail.se...@ap8.p2.fra.samsungsocialhub.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 That's what grabbed my attention, his eyes: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/05/suspicious-eyes.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Bartending's Dark Side
Thank you, Marnie. It'll take a while to put one together, but I'm slowly getting there. It's a private club with a pretty small membership, but there are enough characters to make a decent collection given enough time. Now that I've gotten a decent flash, I should be able to get shots that otherwise would've been throw-aways. The overhead, recessed, tungsten lighting causes ruinous shadows under the eyes, noses and chins of most of the people I shoot, and a little bounce flash should fix that problem. -- Walt On 5/31/2013 10:12 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Hadn't seen this one yet. Oh, wow, that is a powerful photo. Marnie aka DoeYou really should do a series from the bar. In a message dated 5/20/2013 11:46:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ldott...@gmail.com writes: You see a lot of things working in a dive bar like the club where I work -- the best and worst of people. The guy on the left is David -- a bear of a man and local tough man contest legend. I've known him since I was probably 12 years old, and when he's sober, he's one of the most softhearted people you could ever hope to meet. But, when he drinks, he's extremely tough to deal with. The guy on the right is Glenn (the same Glenn with the full beard and world-weary expression I've posted photos of before). He's one of David's best friends. And, to be sure, he's no walk in the park when he's drunk. Well, this particular night, they were both drunk, and David decided it was time to let Glenn know who the bull of the herd is. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8757901365/ K-5, F 50/1.7, f/3.2, ISO 3200, 1/100 sec They go through this little ritual on a fairly regular basis and it makes for some pretty long nights at work sometimes. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How far behind am I
And I shoot too much all the time. If I go two days without taking a picture I get very restless and go out in my backyard and fire a away at nothing much at all. Have a great trip. I hope you or someone else documents the participants. I have not been here long enuf to put faces to names. Have a great meet-up and shoot em up. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 12 Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 07:54:13 -0400 From: John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com To:pdml@pdml.net Subject: re: How far behind am I Message-ID:51a88f65.1030...@nc.rr.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed From: Don Guthrie P.J.'s Christmas tree begs the question How far behind processing photos do you get? I am constantly finding photos on my hard drive that have been copied and loaded into Aperture but never gotten beyond raw. I also find photos that I meant to post somewhere and flag for PDML that I never did anything with. I posted something on Google+ last week realized I should post it here still have not done so. They say the butcher backed into his meat cutter got a little behind in his work. I empathize. I downloaded the card in my K20D this morning so I can format it before I leave for GFM in a couple of hours. Takes me a little over 3 hours to get there if I don't dawdle too much on the way, so I need to leave here before noon. I still had a few photos on there from the PPNC convention in march. The convention photos were already downloaded to my computer, I just didn't format the card before taking family photos on Mothers Day. I haven't been motivated to do much shooting lately. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III
Tripod would be my starting point when getting everyone together for that Thanksgiving family shot. After that, I'm going to be everywhere. Mirror up or shutter delay shots usually done with a solid camera rest. Jack From: Walt ldott...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 7:39 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III I feel exactly the same way. I can count the number of times I've used a tripod on one hand, as I generally find them to be more an encumbrance than a tool. That said, I finally broke down and got a decent one the other day when I bought my flash unit, as I'm going to be doing a family portrait session soon, and figured it would be a good idea to have one. Still, like you, I like to move around a lot when I'm shooting and a tripod starts to feel like a ball and chain pretty quickly. -- Walt On 5/31/2013 9:14 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: But I must say using a tripod, heavily, felt very uncreative. I like to move around a lot with a camera and try different framing on a scene quickly. But a tripod is like set up your shot first and let the camera do the work. Almost boring. I am still sorting out how I feel about that. Marnie aka Doe:-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Needs a Title
Appreciated, Marnie! Jack - Original Message - From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 8:29 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Needs a Title What she said re placement. Don't think I have a good title -- Windows Vista, is yes, probably TOO apt. Heh. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 5/28/2013 1:57:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, christ...@caguila.com writes: Very funny, Jack! Really got a giggle looking at this one. The birds are perfectly placed. Love it! Cheers, Christine On May 27, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: That's great fun! On 27 May 2013, at 14:27, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=695 Thanks, Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW177 - T
Yeah, sure, but on the other hand I do think they will like to have these pictures when they grow up. :-) Thanks! DagT 31. mai 2013 kl. 16:35 skrev eactiv...@aol.com: Very nice. Nice expression. Your kids sure come in handy. Heh. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 5/28/2013 2:13:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, li...@thrane.name writes: A bit late this week, I had to develop it first :-) http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html Bronica SQ-A, PS180mm, Ilford HP5+, 1/60s, f/4.5 DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe acknowledges cool reception
on 2013-05-31 8:40 eactiv...@aol.com wrote Maybe I am missing something, probably am, being the old foggy that I am -- but why in the #$%! should I want to store my photos on a remote server? I guess I think I am missing the point of cloud. I mean, thank you very much, but I prefer storing my photos on my own computer (and back up hard drives). in an ideal world, the remote server: * would be better maintained and backed up * would have more capacity at a lower price than your own hard drive * would be accessible by a suitably fast and never failing internet connection * would be completely private insofar as you wished * would not create confusion as an old fogie myself (DEC-20 mainframe was my first chief axe) what amazes me is that we are closing in on those ideal conditions as quickly as we are, despite the frustrations involved in the journey that said, Adobe is not whom i would expect to do best at such service; Adobe still produces good products, but is slowly descending into Dell territory, where the major questions are ones the stockholders raise -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW177 - T
That's a terrific portrait. Love the shallow DOF (and, as others have said, the tonality). On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 11:02 AM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: Thanks Dave, and Paul, Dan, frank, Bruce and Jack! Now I just need the time to make a print on fibre base B/W paper DagT 31. mai 2013 kl. 01:23 skrev David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: Superb Dave On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 5:13 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: A bit late this week, I had to develop it first :-) http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html Bronica SQ-A, PS180mm, Ilford HP5+, 1/60s, f/4.5 DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: One more steam engine shot
Wow! Nobody told me that the K-5 comes with a time travel feature. Yep, known as the way-back filter! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Subject: Re: One more steam engine shot Wow! Nobody told me that the K-5 comes with a time travel feature. Damn! Now I *really* have to get one. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:29 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17396672 My GranDad's engine back in 1910 or so, #1746 Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW177 - T
Thanks Dave, and Paul, Dan, frank, Bruce and Jack! Now I just need the time to make a print on fibre base B/W paper DagT 31. mai 2013 kl. 01:23 skrev David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: Superb Dave On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 5:13 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: A bit late this week, I had to develop it first :-) http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html Bronica SQ-A, PS180mm, Ilford HP5+, 1/60s, f/4.5 DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Food Truck Commander
I don't know if it's the twinkle in her eyes or the smile that spreads fully arose her face, but I find her most appealing. Yes - that and the great lighting illuminating her face. Or it could be your black, professional camera! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: PESO - Food Truck Commander I keep going back to this pic of a lady food truck boss. I don't know if it's the twinkle in her eyes or the smile that spreads fully arose her face, but I find her most appealing. Shit with K-5, DA* 60-250/4 and the 560 flash at -.5. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17382632size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT The way we talk about photographs
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: RE: OT The way we talk about photographs It's not my job to do anything when I look at a photograph. All I need to do is look at it. I thought he was responding to a request to comment on an image. I also don't need to ask anything. If I do then something is missing. Agreed. And, sorry, a distracting element is what it is. If I don't like it I don't. Too bad. Same here. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Sent: May 26, 2013 5/26/13 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net Subject: OT The way we talk about photographs David duChemin with some great questions. And a NIce Capture! :) http://davidduchemin.com/2013/05/nice-capture/ -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe acknowledges cool reception
Marnie, the Cloud word is a red herring. Nobody is requiring you to
save your files anywhere other than than what you do with them now. So
forget remote server, you save your files on your PC like you always
have. And your software still runs on your PC just as always. Nothing
processes In The Cloud somewhere. Once you install Photoshop, it's biz
as usual.
In this context, Cloud is Adobe marketing people smoking up and
saying, Oooh yeah! pfff-choke Cloud is hip! Let's get that
cloud word in our product name somewhere. It could equally have been
Creative Unicorns. There are cloudy trimmings in the product, like the
Behance social site and the fact that you download the software from
the cloud. But they are almost completely misusing the word Cloud as
IT people know it.
Basically Adobe has discontinued selling the Creative Suite
(Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, etc.) as boxed software. Instead
they are renting it to us in bundles, like cable TV channel packages.
So in theory you can get a lot of software for less money per month
than you used to pay for the entire Creative Suite plus upgrades every
1.5 years. That's great for professional graphic artists working for a
Fortune 500 firm.
But for free-lance or amateur photographers who just want Photoshop
for as little moola as possible, and expect to buy it like a book that
you keep forever, this move amounts to $20/month to Adobe for the rest
of your creative life. Because when you stop paying, the software
stops working. Your Adobe proprietary files become unreadable.
It should be noted that photographers *should* be saving their files
in a non-proprietary form, like TIFF, JPEG or even DNG if you trust
Adobe's intentions for that format. But lots of folks have projects
saved away in PSD (Photoshop), etc., who want to open and work on them
from time to time.
Lightroom has been spared this tragic move; you will still buy it like
a book and pay for individual upgrades.
For now.
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:40 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
Maybe I am missing something, probably am, being the old foggy that I am
-- but why in the #$%! should I want to store my photos on a remote server?
I guess I think I am missing the point of cloud. I mean, thank you very
much, but I prefer storing my photos on my own computer (and back up hard
drives).
Marnie aka Doe
In a message dated 5/30/2013 12:19:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes:
Now, was that Company A ('80's) or Company I ('90's)? ;-)
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote:
So really they are saying what I learned to say at a company we both
worked
for: Thank you for your input. This of course meant that I mostly
ignored
it :-)
Gerrit
-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 9:23 AM
To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List
Subject: Adobe acknowledges cool reception
Adobe finally issues a brief response to the Creative Cloud backlash.
http://blogs.adobe.com/creativecloud/our-move-to-creative-cloud-an-update/
In a nutshell:
Gosh, a few folks don't like subscription services. Who knew?
and
Golly, photographers are weird.
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Re: Pentax K-30 in-camera RAW histogram approximation (UniWB, various tweaks)
On May 22, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: BTW, I shoot strictly RAW, no +JPEG, WB usually fixed at Cloudy, JPEG configuration at factory defaults or close to. I stick to a 16-bit post-processing workflow. I'm a stickler for image quality. Likewise Now elsewhere you have explained that you want to doctor or calibrate your histogram in aid of calculating exposures for doing ETTR. You might want to consider that ETTR is considered by many to be no longer relevant and even harmful. I don't follow the notion anymore myself. Have you read this? http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2011/10/expose-to-the-right-is-a-bunch-of-bull.html Or: http://goo.gl/UFjy3 Even doing nothing but RAW shooting I know that once you clip your highlights, they are gone. Pure white. No recovery possible. Complete loss of value. Possibly still okay for showing to your parents. :-) I have always interpreted ETTR as expose as far to the right as you can WITHOUT CLIPPING ANYTHING YOU WANT TO KEEP. This means that I often end up exposing way below what the light meter tells me that I should. These are exactly the instances when an accurate histogram would be the most useful. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Fledgling Robin II
You're a good person, Walt. Jack - Original Message - From: Walt ldott...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 6:42 AM Subject: PESO: Fledgling Robin II Here's a shot of the little guy I photographed yesterday, taken as I was guiding it across the road to its mother. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8901832382/#large K-5, F 50/1.7, f/1.7, ISO 160, 1/2000 sec. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Suspicious Eyes
In fairness to him, I think the light is enhancing his menacing look, but I wouldn't be prepared to go over and quiz him about it. ;-) The background really adds to the mood here; all those intersecting lines and the metal fence. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:01 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Yup. Me too. He looks unhappy and/or paranoid. M aka D :-) In a message dated 5/30/2013 7:02:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: That's what grabbed my attention, his eyes: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/05/suspicious-eyes.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Flash enablement
On 31 May 2013, at 13:10, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/30/2013 5:46 PM, Bob W wrote: On 30 May 2013, at 18:53, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: So, I was wondering where I might be able to learn more about shooting manual flash in the event the TTL function fails me -- something to give me an idea of when to adjust the flash output power, at what distances, etc. I know nothing about guide numbers, flash modes, or anything like that. Anybody got any suggestions to that end? Any guidance would be appreciated. The guide number tells you how powerful the flash. It's of no real consequence in practical shooting. To use flash manually, 0. Set the flash to manual 1. Set the ISO value on the scale on the flash 2. set the shutter speed to the flash sync speed, or lower 3. Measure the flash to subject distance - you should be able read this off the focus scale, but if you're bouncing the flash use the distance from the flash to the point on the ceiling, and double it. 4. On the flash scale, read off the correct aperture for the flash-subject distance 5. Set that aperture on your camera 6. Focus and shoot You can vary the flash output, eg for fill flash, by lying to it about the ISO. Setting the shutter speed slower than the flash sync speed gives you a bit of ambient light and some motion blur against the flash-frozen bit. B Thanks, Bob. Although, strangely enough, there's no ISO scale on the flash as far as I can tell. None of the function buttons on the back seems to bring up any indicators. I'll have to do a little digging around to see if there's something I'm missing. Hmmm. Nothing's missing, Walt. Modern flashes don't come with the exposure guide Bob described. I don't know when they stopped adding that, but I suspect whenever the fancy *-TTL flash automation became standard. Neither the Pentax AF540 or AF360 have it. I have a Metz SCA 3000 which begs to differ. Perhaps it's not all that modern, but does have all the fancy ttl stuff. I also have an Olympus FL36 which I could have sworn had it, but I've checked, and it doesn't. I know I've used it manually, so I think it must tell me something useful on the control panel. If you set the flash manually to the same setting as the Guide Nimber is quoted for, eg ISO 100, zoom 50mm, then you can determine the aperture for a given distance from the subject with this formula: aperture = GN / distance I never remember that for some reason. Perhaps there's something to be said for tattoos after all. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Fledgling Robin II
Thanks, Jack -- though, I think just about anyone else would have done the same. I figured its main objective was to get away from me, so I just cut off whatever paths led it away from the mother. -- Walt On 5/31/2013 11:57 AM, Jack Davis wrote: You're a good person, Walt. Jack - Original Message - From: Walt ldott...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 6:42 AM Subject: PESO: Fledgling Robin II Here's a shot of the little guy I photographed yesterday, taken as I was guiding it across the road to its mother. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8901832382/#large K-5, F 50/1.7, f/1.7, ISO 160, 1/2000 sec. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Help needed with curly film
Remember film? Short story: I am trying to scan some old negatives (color and BW). Old as in some of the BW go back to the early 1940's. Mostly cut into strips of 4 or 6 frames. Some are badly cupped and/or curled to the point that I cannot make them stay within the film holder on the flatbed scanner (Epson V600). Any suggestions for practical means of flattening these? There is a large number of negatives involved, most of them probably have nothing of merit worth scanning/preserving, but I can't tell until I scan/preview. Longer story: My father-in-law was a prolific photographer. He has multiple notebooks of neatly filed an labeled contact sheets negatives (35mm, 645, 6x6, some 3x4, some 4x5). Those are in fairly good condition and easy to deal with; most will go directly to the local Center for the Arts (MCFTA) or Historical Society. (For 20+ years he was the primary photographer for the MCFTA, everything from portraits of board members to publicity shots for advertising posters for upcoming concerts and plays, etc.) But there are a few shoe boxes with items less well preserved. The negatives are mostly cut with one roll together in a sleeve, mostly annotated with the date taken and the date he made prints from the negs. Some of those are usable, particularly the medium-format (scannable), some are badly cupped, and some have somehow gotten into a lengthwise spiral. So do I soak and hang out to dry, with appropriate weights attached? Any better, easier, alternative? stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Fledgling Robin
Nice shot. He looks brand new. Yep, just minted. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: eactiv...@aol.com Subject: Re: PESO: Fledgling Robin Nice shot. He looks brand new. M aka D In a message dated 5/30/2013 3:45:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ldott...@gmail.com writes: Just spotted this little dude in the front yard: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8895877234/#large K-5, F 50/1.7, f/1.7, ISO160, 1/1250 It eventually hopped safely across the road with a little guidance, where I heard what I assume were the panicked cries of the mother robin. Don't know what will become of it after that as I didn't want to touch it or panic the mother even further, but I hope it'll be OK. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III
I was taught long ago, by an outdoor pro, that when using a tripod, and he always recommended using one, find the subject/composition with the camera hand held then set the tripod up in that spot to capture that composition. You are correct in that a tripod can be very limiting if you keep the camera on it while hunting for the subject/composition. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: eactiv...@aol.com Subject: Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III Glad to know it's not just me. :-) For night shots, portraits, and macros, yeah, you definitely/usually need a tripod. But it's like, hey, cutting down on my inspiration. Or the inspiration I get by moving around. I suppose, technically, one could do set up shots first, move around all you want to try out angles, then pick a place and use a tripod there. But that wastes a lot of effort too, if those move around shots are naturally going to be blurry without a tripod. I don't know. Still thinking about it. Marnie aka Doe In a message dated 5/31/2013 7:39:06 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ldott...@gmail.com writes: I feel exactly the same way. I can count the number of times I've used a tripod on one hand, as I generally find them to be more an encumbrance than a tool. That said, I finally broke down and got a decent one the other day when I bought my flash unit, as I'm going to be doing a family portrait session soon, and figured it would be a good idea to have one. Still, like you, I like to move around a lot when I'm shooting and a tripod starts to feel like a ball and chain pretty quickly. -- Walt On 5/31/2013 9:14 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: But I must say using a tripod, heavily, felt very uncreative. I like to move around a lot with a camera and try different framing on a scene quickly. But a tripod is like set up your shot first and let the camera do the work. Almost boring. I am still sorting out how I feel about that. Marnie aka Doe:-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III
This one works very well Dave On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:44 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Went back and tried night shooting the oil refinery again. This time I remembered to turn off the IS and shot with bracketing. This is not HDR, because only two of the shots in my three brackets came out semi-okay. So only used one. This is 4 seconds (or 1/4 a second, unsure how LR notes this) at f/6.3. Not trying again (right now), because this is a photo class and the deadline is coming up. But since it was intriguing I may try it again later with some other industrial plants, for myself. Play around with it. http://mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/pie3.htm I think this is much more successful than the previous ones. Curious if you think so too. Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III
I would certainly be interested how they SPUR creativity. Heh. For me, I find I spend more time, once set, up trying variations of exposures and compositions. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: eactiv...@aol.com Subject: Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III I would certainly be interested how they SPUR creativity. Heh. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 5/31/2013 7:59:47 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, distudio.p...@gmail.com writes: Har, I just wrote about tripods and their creative effect, maybe I should put it on a blog. On 1 June 2013 00:55, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On May 31, 2013, at 09:44 , eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Glad to know it's not just me. :-) For night shots, portraits, and macros, yeah, you definitely/usually need a tripod. But it's like, hey, cutting down on my inspiration. Or the inspiration I get by moving around. I suppose, technically, one could do set up shots first, move around all you want to try out angles, then pick a place and use a tripod there. But that wastes a lot of effort too, if those move around shots are naturally going to be blurry without a tripod. I have one of these stuffed in my bag: http://www.amazon.com/Pedco-UltraPod-Lightweight-Camera-Tripod/dp/B000ANCPNM It's not as stable as a regular tripod, but it's good enough to get your camera strapped to something or set on something so you can aim it correctly. That way you can be spontaneous and you're not lugging around 20 pounds of maybe I'll need this. Granted - with the K5 and the 16-50, that's a fair amount of weight on this tiny thing so I don't find myself strapping that combo to vertical poles much! Also: I like this shot you did. Great lighting and exposure. Like I think Paul mentioned, I might rotate it a bit to square it up but that's about it. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Fledgling Robin II
Very Dag esh Dave On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a shot of the little guy I photographed yesterday, taken as I was guiding it across the road to its mother. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8901832382/#large K-5, F 50/1.7, f/1.7, ISO 160, 1/2000 sec. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Help needed with curly film
I would experiment with warming them up before flattening them. Vinyl/Plastic softens quite easily. I think moisture will cause damage. Alan C -Original Message- From: Stan Halpin Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 7:27 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Help needed with curly film Remember film? Short story: I am trying to scan some old negatives (color and BW). Old as in some of the BW go back to the early 1940's. Mostly cut into strips of 4 or 6 frames. Some are badly cupped and/or curled to the point that I cannot make them stay within the film holder on the flatbed scanner (Epson V600). Any suggestions for practical means of flattening these? There is a large number of negatives involved, most of them probably have nothing of merit worth scanning/preserving, but I can't tell until I scan/preview. Longer story: My father-in-law was a prolific photographer. He has multiple notebooks of neatly filed an labeled contact sheets negatives (35mm, 645, 6x6, some 3x4, some 4x5). Those are in fairly good condition and easy to deal with; most will go directly to the local Center for the Arts (MCFTA) or Historical Society. (For 20+ years he was the primary photographer for the MCFTA, everything from portraits of board members to publicity shots for advertising posters for upcoming concerts and plays, etc.) But there are a few shoe boxes with items less well preserved. The negatives are mostly cut with one roll together in a sleeve, mostly annotated with the date taken and the date he made prints from the negs. Some of those are usable, particularly the medium-format (scannable), some are badly cupped, and some have somehow gotten into a lengthwise spiral. So do I soak and hang out to dry, with appropriate weights attached? Any better, easier, alternative? stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Get your rocks off
It was a long way down that page but... http://fuckyeahcameraporn.tumblr.com/post/26899674521/goddess-shooting-stills-video-the-same-time On 5/30/2013 5:52 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On topic as well! Camera porn ;-) http://fuckyeahcameraporn.tumblr.com/#15 -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Help needed with curly film
Film curls relative to the humidity or lack thereof. Since you are scanning them, I would not waste a lot of time trying to flatten the negatives (something that would need to be repeated for each strip, or page of strips just prior to scanning). Instead, I would get thee to betterscanning.com and get thyself some anti-newton ring glass, the weight of which should overcome any curl. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: I would experiment with warming them up before flattening them. Vinyl/Plastic softens quite easily. I think moisture will cause damage. Alan C -Original Message- From: Stan Halpin Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 7:27 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Help needed with curly film Remember film? Short story: I am trying to scan some old negatives (color and BW). Old as in some of the BW go back to the early 1940's. Mostly cut into strips of 4 or 6 frames. Some are badly cupped and/or curled to the point that I cannot make them stay within the film holder on the flatbed scanner (Epson V600). Any suggestions for practical means of flattening these? There is a large number of negatives involved, most of them probably have nothing of merit worth scanning/preserving, but I can't tell until I scan/preview. Longer story: My father-in-law was a prolific photographer. He has multiple notebooks of neatly filed an labeled contact sheets negatives (35mm, 645, 6x6, some 3x4, some 4x5). Those are in fairly good condition and easy to deal with; most will go directly to the local Center for the Arts (MCFTA) or Historical Society. (For 20+ years he was the primary photographer for the MCFTA, everything from portraits of board members to publicity shots for advertising posters for upcoming concerts and plays, etc.) But there are a few shoe boxes with items less well preserved. The negatives are mostly cut with one roll together in a sleeve, mostly annotated with the date taken and the date he made prints from the negs. Some of those are usable, particularly the medium-format (scannable), some are badly cupped, and some have somehow gotten into a lengthwise spiral. So do I soak and hang out to dry, with appropriate weights attached? Any better, easier, alternative? stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Help needed with curly film
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: So do I soak and hang out to dry, with appropriate weights attached? Any better, easier, alternative? When I developed 35mm in the darkroom, the negatives would usually start out with some degree of curl (in both directions), but I would store them in Print-File negative sleeves in a three-ring binder, and eventually they would flatten very well under the weight. You're starting out with worse curl, but sleeving and weighting them might still work (given enough time), without any more extreme measures. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Fledgling Robin II
Thanks, Dave. I take that as high praise -- probably higher than I deserve. I would've liked to have gotten a lower angle on it, but it was making good progress getting across the road and I didn't want to do anything to slow that down lest we both end up as statistics. -- Walt On 5/31/2013 12:55 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Very Dag esh Dave On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a shot of the little guy I photographed yesterday, taken as I was guiding it across the road to its mother. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8901832382/#large K-5, F 50/1.7, f/1.7, ISO 160, 1/2000 sec. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Get your rocks off
And for that, I owe you my undying gratitude. On 5/31/2013 1:08 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: It was a long way down that page but... http://fuckyeahcameraporn.tumblr.com/post/26899674521/goddess-shooting-stills-video-the-same-time On 5/30/2013 5:52 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On topic as well! Camera porn ;-) http://fuckyeahcameraporn.tumblr.com/#15 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Get your rocks off
Just after I posted that the shear size of that page overwhelmed Firefox and it crashed... On 5/31/2013 2:14 PM, Walt wrote: And for that, I owe you my undying gratitude. On 5/31/2013 1:08 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: It was a long way down that page but... http://fuckyeahcameraporn.tumblr.com/post/26899674521/goddess-shooting-stills-video-the-same-time On 5/30/2013 5:52 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On topic as well! Camera porn ;-) http://fuckyeahcameraporn.tumblr.com/#15 -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe acknowledges cool reception
on 2013-05-31 10:48 Bruce Walker wrote In this context, Cloud is Adobe marketing people smoking up and saying, Oooh yeah! pfff-choke Cloud is hip! Let's get that cloud word in our product name somewhere. It could equally have been Creative Unicorns. There are cloudy trimmings in the product, like the Behance social site and the fact that you download the software from the cloud. But they are almost completely misusing the word Cloud as IT people know it. i've been trying to get that across too, and it is true at present, but i've come to think there's more to it … i watch Adobe closely (for some reason) and i've seen an interview with Adobe CEO Narayen clearly spelling out to investors that they think they are chasing creatives into the new services that they want, which will be more and more cloud-based, using mobile devices; Narayen implied that the traditional flat world of graphic design apps is not a growth sector, so in terms of priorities for Adobe, the word cloud tells me that Adobe thinks there is not as much value for its stockholders in traditional uses/users i'm speaking as someone in publishing since the 80s, and i realize the picture is slightly different for photographers; photography is still catching the wave somewhat, but at a really low price point; i think Adobe will have trouble selling high-dollar software to the new photographers, so the market may not be as attractive as renting stuff to web developers and trying to hook people on social-something-or-other; i think Adobe has a real problem on its hands in that its market is fragmenting and they aren't positioned to keep all fragments happy Because when you stop paying, the software stops working. Your Adobe proprietary files become unreadable. well, this is what Adobe claims they'll fix in the cited blog post; that they'll provide some sort of free reader Lightroom has been spared this tragic move; you will still buy it like a book and pay for individual upgrades. LR is included in cloud subscriptions, so you can go either way fwiw, i had a creative suite subscription from May 2012 and i cancelled when the price went from $30 to $50; value proposition wasn't there as i don't use the whole suite enough, and own some older licenses; i will use Pixelmator for dabbling, and will rent Photoshop for a month if i really need it -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Get your rocks off
All this guy is doing is stealing other people's images and putting them all in one place. I don't see anything particularly creative in that. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:23 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Just after I posted that the shear size of that page overwhelmed Firefox and it crashed... On 5/31/2013 2:14 PM, Walt wrote: And for that, I owe you my undying gratitude. On 5/31/2013 1:08 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: It was a long way down that page but... http://fuckyeahcameraporn.tumblr.com/post/26899674521/goddess-shooting-stills-video-the-same-time On 5/30/2013 5:52 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On topic as well! Camera porn ;-) http://fuckyeahcameraporn.tumblr.com/#15 -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe acknowledges cool reception
As long as you pay your subscription fees your /important/ photos will
be backed up, and whoever owns the server that stores them will make
money win/win. OK it doesn't seem like that much of a win to me since I
can back up my own photos for a fraction of what the yearly fee is
likely to be, and the bandwidth required to move more than a terabyte of
data to the cloud is kind of a problem... How about I just build my
own server farm, which I've kind of done. I haven't managed to lose any
of my digital photographs yet. Other things, yes, but not the
photographs...
On 5/31/2013 10:40 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
Maybe I am missing something, probably am, being the old foggy that I am
-- but why in the #$%! should I want to store my photos on a remote server?
I guess I think I am missing the point of cloud. I mean, thank you very
much, but I prefer storing my photos on my own computer (and back up hard
drives).
Marnie aka Doe
In a message dated 5/30/2013 12:19:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes:
Now, was that Company A ('80's) or Company I ('90's)? ;-)
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote:
So really they are saying what I learned to say at a company we both
worked
for: Thank you for your input. This of course meant that I mostly
ignored
it :-)
Gerrit
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Subject: Adobe acknowledges cool reception
Adobe finally issues a brief response to the Creative Cloud backlash.
http://blogs.adobe.com/creativecloud/our-move-to-creative-cloud-an-update/
In a nutshell:
Gosh, a few folks don't like subscription services. Who knew?
and
Golly, photographers are weird.
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Doug and I went out to shoot some photos yesterday afternoon. Had a good time but didn't get any really stellar shots. This morning we put together our presentation for this evening (nothing like waiting till the last minute, eh?) and we're just about to begin signing in participants. Looks like a good weekend ahead! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe acknowledges cool reception
Thanks, Bruce (and Gerrit) that explains a lot. Seems I was foggy all
around, since I didn't spell fogie right. Heh. And agree, Peter, I can do it
cheaper myself than I could by subscription.
Guess I better upgrade my LR and Elements before it/they becomes/become
cloud. Not sure Elements hasn't already, but one can usually find older
copies (using 8 now).
Well, I've been a computer programmer, so I have an inherent distrust of
the reliability of any computer/computer-related hardware. Uh, they fail,
from time to time. One should have lots of redundancy. I trust me to do that.
Not sure I would ever trust anyone else to do it as well.
Marnie aka Doe ;-)
In a message dated 5/31/2013 9:49:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes:
Marnie, the Cloud word is a red herring. Nobody is requiring you to
save your files anywhere other than than what you do with them now. So
forget remote server, you save your files on your PC like you always
have. And your software still runs on your PC just as always. Nothing
processes In The Cloud somewhere. Once you install Photoshop, it's biz
as usual.
In this context, Cloud is Adobe marketing people smoking up and
saying, Oooh yeah! pfff-choke Cloud is hip! Let's get that
cloud word in our product name somewhere. It could equally have been
Creative Unicorns. There are cloudy trimmings in the product, like the
Behance social site and the fact that you download the software from
the cloud. But they are almost completely misusing the word Cloud as
IT people know it.
Basically Adobe has discontinued selling the Creative Suite
(Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, etc.) as boxed software. Instead
they are renting it to us in bundles, like cable TV channel packages.
So in theory you can get a lot of software for less money per month
than you used to pay for the entire Creative Suite plus upgrades every
1.5 years. That's great for professional graphic artists working for a
Fortune 500 firm.
But for free-lance or amateur photographers who just want Photoshop
for as little moola as possible, and expect to buy it like a book that
you keep forever, this move amounts to $20/month to Adobe for the rest
of your creative life. Because when you stop paying, the software
stops working. Your Adobe proprietary files become unreadable.
It should be noted that photographers *should* be saving their files
in a non-proprietary form, like TIFF, JPEG or even DNG if you trust
Adobe's intentions for that format. But lots of folks have projects
saved away in PSD (Photoshop), etc., who want to open and work on them
from time to time.
Lightroom has been spared this tragic move; you will still buy it like
a book and pay for individual upgrades.
For now.
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:40 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
Maybe I am missing something, probably am, being the old foggy that I am
-- but why in the #$%! should I want to store my photos on a remote
server?
I guess I think I am missing the point of cloud. I mean, thank you
very
much, but I prefer storing my photos on my own computer (and back up
hard
drives).
Marnie aka Doe
In a message dated 5/30/2013 12:19:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes:
Now, was that Company A ('80's) or Company I ('90's)? ;-)
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com
wrote:
So really they are saying what I learned to say at a company we both
worked
for: Thank you for your input. This of course meant that I mostly
ignored
it :-)
Gerrit
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From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 9:23 AM
To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List
Subject: Adobe acknowledges cool reception
Adobe finally issues a brief response to the Creative Cloud backlash.
http://blogs.adobe.com/creativecloud/our-move-to-creative-cloud-an-update/
In a nutshell:
Gosh, a few folks don't like subscription services. Who knew?
and
Golly, photographers are weird.
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Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III
Thanks, Dave. M aka D In a message dated 5/31/2013 10:55:52 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pentko...@gmail.com writes: This one works very well Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Nightshot - American Pie III
Hmmm. That's a good point (re variations). As to the other, I guess I could do handheld trails before tripod use. I'll have to see. (I've only ever really used it before for macros and some Yosemite shots where the view was sort of picked out already.) M aka D :-) In a message dated 5/31/2013 10:56:26 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, kwal...@peoplepc.com writes: I would certainly be interested how they SPUR creativity. Heh. For me, I find I spend more time, once set, up trying variations of exposures and compositions. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Help needed with curly film
On 31/05/2013 12:01 PM, Alan C wrote: I would experiment with warming them up before flattening them. Vinyl/Plastic softens quite easily. I think moisture will cause damage. Alan C I don't think I would go this route, or at least not with dry heat. The film is curled because the emulsion side has dehumidified and is pulling the acetate (or whatever the base is), and there is no matching anti curl layer on the back side of the film. You could try hanging the negs in a bathroom and then turning on the shower to raise the humidity in the room. This might flatten the negs out as the gelatin absorbs some moisture.. bill -Original Message- From: Stan Halpin Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 7:27 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Help needed with curly film Remember film? Short story: I am trying to scan some old negatives (color and BW). Old as in some of the BW go back to the early 1940's. Mostly cut into strips of 4 or 6 frames. Some are badly cupped and/or curled to the point that I cannot make them stay within the film holder on the flatbed scanner (Epson V600). Any suggestions for practical means of flattening these? There is a large number of negatives involved, most of them probably have nothing of merit worth scanning/preserving, but I can't tell until I scan/preview. Longer story: My father-in-law was a prolific photographer. He has multiple notebooks of neatly filed an labeled contact sheets negatives (35mm, 645, 6x6, some 3x4, some 4x5). Those are in fairly good condition and easy to deal with; most will go directly to the local Center for the Arts (MCFTA) or Historical Society. (For 20+ years he was the primary photographer for the MCFTA, everything from portraits of board members to publicity shots for advertising posters for upcoming concerts and plays, etc.) But there are a few shoe boxes with items less well preserved. The negatives are mostly cut with one roll together in a sleeve, mostly annotated with the date taken and the date he made prints from the negs. Some of those are usable, particularly the medium-format (scannable), some are badly cupped, and some have somehow gotten into a lengthwise spiral. So do I soak and hang out to dry, with appropriate weights attached? Any better, easier, alternative? stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Me, my K-5 and my Q - coming to the USA
Brian, What's the story? Where are you? How is your trip going? Has anyone heard from him? I've been so busy with the dance camp at my house last weekend, I've only been seeing bits and pieces of the PDML mail. Larry On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 08:17:17AM +1000, Brian Walters wrote: .. the western part, anyway. During May and early June my wife and I, together with our two adult sons Chris and Jeff, will be taking a road and rail trip around the western USA (Chris' partner Cassie will be joining us towards the end of the trip). We'll be starting in Los Angeles and heading though the South-west before turning north into the Rockies, up into Montana, across to Washington and Oregon and finally returning south to our starting point. Here's a map of the trip (prepared by Chris): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/WesternUSA-blog.jpg It's going to be a hectic 6 weeks with only 1-2 night stop-overs along the way. However, if anyone's interested in a meet-up, we'll be in San Francisco for 5 nights towards the end of May and staying with friends at Ojai, near Ventura, for 4 nights in early June. So, if anyone in or near those areas have an hour or two to spare, it would be great to catch up over a cup of coffee and a few photos. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
May Faves
Baby bird, reflections and fire: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157633476565519/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Z-Day party, June 8th, Felton
This will mostly be of interest to folks in, or near, the bay area. Plenty of crash space is available. In case you haven't alread heard, we are throwing a party on Zab's birthday, June 8th. Z-day, More fun than a day on the beach in Normandy. We will start the festivities out with an introductory dance class at 2:30 in the afternoon. In short, I'll be teaching (blues) dance from the perspective of aikido, exploring the similarities in connection and body mechanics between the two. The class assumes no prior knowledge of either. You also don't need a partner. If, however, you happen to be accomplished in partner dance already, I think that you'll find this exploration both interesting and valuable. There are also plenty of interesting things to photograph in the area: beaches, redwoods, trains, a race car museum, and, of course, hippies. That evening we will be having at least one live band. I have a freshly refinished 600 square foor dance floor in my back yard, so there will be plenty of opportunity for dancing. People will not, however, be required to dance. A lot of our friends actually don't dance. Z-day https://www.facebook.com/events/541403215905041 dance class https://www.facebook.com/events/401466649966421 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Adobe acknowledges cool reception
I used to fix mainframes in the 60's-80's. Even scarier how those used to
fail with few symptoms!
I use Windows Home Server as my backup/server platform. It duplicates all my
files on separate drives as well as full backups of our PC's. The server
manages 12TB for me. And I still do an offsite backup once a month or so,
esp. after adding a lot of photos like after our recent cruise (11,000
DNG's)
When I have to replace that server (WHS is now abonded), I will build a
server using some small motherboard, Windows 8 and Drive Bender
(http://www.drivebender.com/) to do the 'make it look like 1 big drive and
do duplication' stuff. I would prefer to use Windows Server Essentials 2012
but can't afford it ($400).
I am waiting for a sale on Elements and will then upgrade to 11 from 9. That
should take care of my needs as I already use LR4. Until of course Bruce
educates me on layers at which point I will probably outgrow Elemnts :-(
Gerrit
-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of eactiv...@aol.com
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 3:11 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Adobe acknowledges cool reception
Thanks, Bruce (and Gerrit) that explains a lot. Seems I was foggy all
around, since I didn't spell fogie right. Heh. And agree, Peter, I can do
it cheaper myself than I could by subscription.
Guess I better upgrade my LR and Elements before it/they becomes/become
cloud. Not sure Elements hasn't already, but one can usually find older
copies (using 8 now).
Well, I've been a computer programmer, so I have an inherent distrust of
the reliability of any computer/computer-related hardware. Uh, they fail,
from time to time. One should have lots of redundancy. I trust me to do
that.
Not sure I would ever trust anyone else to do it as well.
Marnie aka Doe ;-)
In a message dated 5/31/2013 9:49:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes:
Marnie, the Cloud word is a red herring. Nobody is requiring you to save
your files anywhere other than than what you do with them now. So forget
remote server, you save your files on your PC like you always have. And
your software still runs on your PC just as always. Nothing processes In
The Cloud somewhere. Once you install Photoshop, it's biz as usual.
In this context, Cloud is Adobe marketing people smoking up and saying,
Oooh yeah! pfff-choke Cloud is hip! Let's get that cloud word in our
product name somewhere. It could equally have been Creative Unicorns.
There are cloudy trimmings in the product, like the Behance social site and
the fact that you download the software from the cloud. But they are
almost completely misusing the word Cloud as IT people know it.
Basically Adobe has discontinued selling the Creative Suite (Photoshop,
Illustrator, InDesign, etc.) as boxed software. Instead they are renting it
to us in bundles, like cable TV channel packages.
So in theory you can get a lot of software for less money per month than
you used to pay for the entire Creative Suite plus upgrades every
1.5 years. That's great for professional graphic artists working for a
Fortune 500 firm.
But for free-lance or amateur photographers who just want Photoshop for as
little moola as possible, and expect to buy it like a book that you keep
forever, this move amounts to $20/month to Adobe for the rest of your
creative life. Because when you stop paying, the software stops working.
Your Adobe proprietary files become unreadable.
It should be noted that photographers *should* be saving their files in a
non-proprietary form, like TIFF, JPEG or even DNG if you trust Adobe's
intentions for that format. But lots of folks have projects saved away in
PSD (Photoshop), etc., who want to open and work on them from time to time.
Lightroom has been spared this tragic move; you will still buy it like a
book and pay for individual upgrades.
For now.
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 10:40 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
Maybe I am missing something, probably am, being the old foggy that
I am
-- but why in the #$%! should I want to store my photos on a remote
server?
I guess I think I am missing the point of cloud. I mean, thank you
very
much, but I prefer storing my photos on my own computer (and back up
hard
drives).
Marnie aka Doe
In a message dated 5/30/2013 12:19:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes:
Now, was that Company A ('80's) or Company I ('90's)? ;-)
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com
wrote:
So really they are saying what I learned to say at a company we
both
worked
for: Thank you for your input. This of course meant that I mostly
ignored
it :-)
Gerrit
-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce
Walker
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 9:23 AM
To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List
Subject: Adobe acknowledges cool reception
Adobe finally issues a brief
Re: How to clean an add-on lens?
Thanks to all who responded with the suggestions. I'll try different things (except HF). I tried ethanol when I discovered the problem, but that didn't help. PJ: you are probably right regarding melting. I didn't mean it literally (hence the quotation marks), - but I suspect the high temperature accelerated the decomposition. I know that in this heat (I wonder if humidity adds to the effect in some cases), I had simple air ballons melting in the utility room drawer, in the car trunk, even on the counter. I even had a pair of dance shoes separating/unglueing from the soles after being in the car for several days. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Me, my K-5 and my Q - coming to the USA
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Brian, What's the story? Where are you? How is your trip going? Has anyone heard from him? http://apathyman2013.wordpress.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe acknowledges cool reception
on 2013-05-31 13:11 eactiv...@aol.com wrote Not sure I would ever trust anyone else to do it as well. as a very experienced software developer and consultant, i am amazed at the skill with which large, multiply-redundant cloud services are built (e.g. Amazon, Google); not that i'd trust them completely (in part for reasons other than reliability), just that i know i couldn't trust myself to do it as well -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Me, my K-5 and my Q - coming to the USA
on 2013-05-31 14:00 Matthew Hunt wrote http://apathyman2013.wordpress.com/ excellent travel blog! glad to hear Brian enjoyed Colorado; i'll be in Alamosa in a couple of weeks, and it is truly not considered much of a destination, but i'll use Brian's blog to boost my expectations (enjoyed the shots of the Great Sand Dunes too) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: May Faves
The bird is a nice documentary capture. Any idea what it is? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: May Faves Baby bird, reflections and fire: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157633476565519/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Sardi's -- Where is Sardi's
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17398640 K-01 with DA 40 mm F2.8 XS Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
