Re: PESO - Cape May beach, 10 am

2013-06-28 Thread David Mann
On Jun 29, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:

> ...on a Tuesday morning.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17443555&size=lg

That does it, I'm packing my bags.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO - Red Winged Blackbird (male)

2013-06-28 Thread David Mann
On Jun 29, 2013, at 3:25 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

> I read that the red winged blackbird may be the most common bird in North 
> America. Apparently they're ~everywhere~, including New Toronto. The other 
> day was a (not so black) female, today the male:
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/06/red-wing-blackbird-male.html?m=1

Nice natural portrait.  I like how you framed him among the leaves.

Our "pet" bellbird has been hanging around here quite a lot in recent weeks.  
He's very distracting but in a good way.  Haven't done much about trying to get 
more photos as he moves around a lot and the light is pretty bad at this time 
of year.

Cheers,
Dave


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RE: PESO - Cape May beach, 10 am

2013-06-28 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Those colours! 

Great composition and interesting subject.

Just a tremendous photo.

Cheers,
tank

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Subject: PESO - Cape May beach, 10 am

...on a Tuesday morning.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17443555&size=lg

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated!

Rick

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Re: PESO - Cape May beach, 10 am

2013-06-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele

That works really well, Rick
strong image

ann

On 6/28/2013 21:42, Rick Womer wrote:

...on a Tuesday morning.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17443555&size=lg

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated!

Rick



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Re: PESO - Red Winged Blackbird (male)

2013-06-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I love them - and I like your portrait
ann

On 6/28/2013 23:25, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

I read that the red winged blackbird may be the most common bird in North 
America. Apparently they're ~everywhere~, including New Toronto. The other day 
was a (not so black) female, today the male:

  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/06/red-wing-blackbird-male.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank

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spontaneity." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson



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Re: PESO - Red Winged Blackbird (male)

2013-06-28 Thread P.J. Alling
Damn, how close are you getting to these birds?  Every time I raise my 
camera to my eye at a distance where a reasonable focal length lens is 
effective, they panic and think I'm going to shoot the based on how fast 
they disappear.


On 6/28/2013 11:25 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

I read that the red winged blackbird may be the most common bird in North 
America. Apparently they're ~everywhere~, including New Toronto. The other day 
was a (not so black) female, today the male:

  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/06/red-wing-blackbird-male.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank

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RE: PESO - Red Winged Blackbird (male)

2013-06-28 Thread Gerrit Visser
Well managed depth of field, esp out of focus leaves in front. And good job
avoiding the deluge :-)

gerrit

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Subject: PESO - Red Winged Blackbird (male)

I read that the red winged blackbird may be the most common bird in North
America. Apparently they're ~everywhere~, including New Toronto. The other
day was a (not so black) female, today the male:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/06/red-wing-blackbird-male.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank 

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PESO - Red Winged Blackbird (male)

2013-06-28 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I read that the red winged blackbird may be the most common bird in North 
America. Apparently they're ~everywhere~, including New Toronto. The other day 
was a (not so black) female, today the male:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/06/red-wing-blackbird-male.html?m=1

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic

2013-06-28 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Jun 28, 2013, at 10:12 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> 
> On Jun 28, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Stan Halpin  wrote:
> 
>> P.J. - you are are revealed as a deprived youngster! No paper tape?!?
>> After a one-semester exposure to programming an IBM 1486 (IIRC) Accounting 
>> Machine with a big honking 15lb board that was pulled out one end so that 
>> jumper connections could be made to instruct the machine to tabulate, 
>> multiply etc., I mostly used punch cards. But I did have one year with a 
>> GE-teletype system that used paper tape. And of course the Commodore C-64 
>> used cassette tape. Then came floppy discs. I thought I had died and gone to 
>> heaven when I started using 3 1/4 discs! Thank you Steve Jobs!
> 
> 
> You mean, thank you Steve Wozniak. Jobs was just in the room when it happen
>> 

Uh, when it happened.


>> At one point, one of the guys in our computer lab (a draftee FWIW, a 
>> Radar-type person) had written an OS for our CDC 3300 that allowed 
>> fore-ground/back-ground dual processing. He modified our Fortran compiler so 
>> that it would properly interact with his OS. I wrote Fortran code to manage 
>> the I/O & data capture to/from terminals that were used by subjects in my 
>> experiments. To debug my programs, I had to interpret the core dump hex code 
>> to find which registers were in what state at the time of the crash. Fun 
>> times! 
>> 
>> stan
>> 
>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 3:28 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
>> 
> ...I don't think I ever used paper tape,...
>>> Actually I used to subscribe to USENET newsgroups at the first company I 
>>> worked for that had a direct internet connection, (they also had their own 
>>> trunk line from the East Coast to California, you could trace email paths 
>>> from my cube in Connecticut to friends at various Universities on the East 
>>> Coast, from our office server it would go to our server in California 
>>> almost instantaneously, then spent the next couple of hours to a day or so 
>>> wending it's way back to the East Coast through various servers.  I don't 
>>> think I ever used paper tape, and never saw a punch card after graduate 
>>> school.  Though I did work with 75 baud communications, you could read the 
>>> octal on a protocol analyzer in real time.  It's a skill I'm glad I've lost.
>>> 
>>> On 6/28/2013 3:02 PM, Gerrit Visser wrote:
 Usenet, dial up modems starting at 300 baud, acoustic couplers, paper tape
 punching/reading at 110 baud. Ah, the memories
 
 Thank you for providing another sink hole for my time :-)
 
 Gerrit
 
 -Original Message-
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
 Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:43 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
 
 On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote:
> Manual?  Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers.
> What are orkers?  That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds
> more like something that a pig would have not a cow...
 I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet:
 http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html
 
 BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck.
 
 Pick a word, and start following interesting looking links in the
 definition:
 http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/go01.html
 
 You can even learn about such things as scratch-monkeys:
 http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scratch-monkey.html
 
> On 6/28/2013 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>> The K-5II has a manual?  A MANUAL!
>> We don't need no stinking manuals!
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>> 
>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with
>>> my cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped
>>> this pic of Muruga's lunch.  For sucha  silly shot, I think it turned
 out pretty nice:
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/
>>> 
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Re: PESO - Cape May beach, 10 am

2013-06-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Graphic, dramatic, interesting. One of my favorite beaches..

Paul
On Jun 28, 2013, at 9:42 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:

> ...on a Tuesday morning.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17443555&size=lg
> 
> (K-5, DA 16-45)
> 
> Comments appreciated!
> 
> Rick
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Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic

2013-06-28 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Jun 28, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Stan Halpin  wrote:

> P.J. - you are are revealed as a deprived youngster! No paper tape?!?
> After a one-semester exposure to programming an IBM 1486 (IIRC) Accounting 
> Machine with a big honking 15lb board that was pulled out one end so that 
> jumper connections could be made to instruct the machine to tabulate, 
> multiply etc., I mostly used punch cards. But I did have one year with a 
> GE-teletype system that used paper tape. And of course the Commodore C-64 
> used cassette tape. Then came floppy discs. I thought I had died and gone to 
> heaven when I started using 3 1/4 discs! Thank you Steve Jobs!


You mean, thank you Steve Wozniak. Jobs was just in the room when it happen
> 
> At one point, one of the guys in our computer lab (a draftee FWIW, a 
> Radar-type person) had written an OS for our CDC 3300 that allowed 
> fore-ground/back-ground dual processing. He modified our Fortran compiler so 
> that it would properly interact with his OS. I wrote Fortran code to manage 
> the I/O & data capture to/from terminals that were used by subjects in my 
> experiments. To debug my programs, I had to interpret the core dump hex code 
> to find which registers were in what state at the time of the crash. Fun 
> times! 
> 
> stan
> 
> On Jun 28, 2013, at 3:28 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
> 
 ...I don't think I ever used paper tape,...
>> Actually I used to subscribe to USENET newsgroups at the first company I 
>> worked for that had a direct internet connection, (they also had their own 
>> trunk line from the East Coast to California, you could trace email paths 
>> from my cube in Connecticut to friends at various Universities on the East 
>> Coast, from our office server it would go to our server in California almost 
>> instantaneously, then spent the next couple of hours to a day or so wending 
>> it's way back to the East Coast through various servers.  I don't think I 
>> ever used paper tape, and never saw a punch card after graduate school.  
>> Though I did work with 75 baud communications, you could read the octal on a 
>> protocol analyzer in real time.  It's a skill I'm glad I've lost.
>> 
>> On 6/28/2013 3:02 PM, Gerrit Visser wrote:
>>> Usenet, dial up modems starting at 300 baud, acoustic couplers, paper tape
>>> punching/reading at 110 baud. Ah, the memories
>>> 
>>> Thank you for providing another sink hole for my time :-)
>>> 
>>> Gerrit
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
>>> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:43 PM
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote:
 Manual?  Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers.
 What are orkers?  That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds
 more like something that a pig would have not a cow...
>>> I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet:
>>> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html
>>> 
>>> BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck.
>>> 
>>> Pick a word, and start following interesting looking links in the
>>> definition:
>>> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/go01.html
>>> 
>>> You can even learn about such things as scratch-monkeys:
>>> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scratch-monkey.html
>>> 
 On 6/28/2013 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
> The K-5II has a manual?  A MANUAL!
> We don't need no stinking manuals!
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with
>> my cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped
>> this pic of Muruga's lunch.  For sucha  silly shot, I think it turned
>>> out pretty nice:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/
>> 
>> --
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>>> http://red4est.com/lrc
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PESO - Cape May beach, 10 am

2013-06-28 Thread Rick Womer
...on a Tuesday morning.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17443555&size=lg

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated!

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Re: PESO - The Dance Recital

2013-06-28 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013, George Sinos wrote:
>
> A snapshot of my cute Granddaughter and a lot of blather about
> improving your chances of getting a better photo under poor lighting.
> 
> This was taken with my compact point-n-shoot because "professional
> cameras" weren't allowed.  My guess is they want you to buy the
> official photographs.
> 
> 

The one thing I'd add to your blather is that sometimes it's better to
NOT zoom in -- anything except a DSLR-like with a constant aperture lens
will stop down as you zoom in, so sometimes the best way to handle
low-light situations is to crop later.
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Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic

2013-06-28 Thread Stan Halpin
P.J. - you are are revealed as a deprived youngster! No paper tape?!?
After a one-semester exposure to programming an IBM 1486 (IIRC) Accounting 
Machine with a big honking 15lb board that was pulled out one end so that 
jumper connections could be made to instruct the machine to tabulate, multiply 
etc., I mostly used punch cards. But I did have one year with a GE-teletype 
system that used paper tape. And of course the Commodore C-64 used cassette 
tape. Then came floppy discs. I thought I had died and gone to heaven when I 
started using 3 1/4 discs! Thank you Steve Jobs!

At one point, one of the guys in our computer lab (a draftee FWIW, a Radar-type 
person) had written an OS for our CDC 3300 that allowed fore-ground/back-ground 
dual processing. He modified our Fortran compiler so that it would properly 
interact with his OS. I wrote Fortran code to manage the I/O & data capture 
to/from terminals that were used by subjects in my experiments. To debug my 
programs, I had to interpret the core dump hex code to find which registers 
were in what state at the time of the crash. Fun times! 

stan

On Jun 28, 2013, at 3:28 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

>>> ...I don't think I ever used paper tape,...
> Actually I used to subscribe to USENET newsgroups at the first company I 
> worked for that had a direct internet connection, (they also had their own 
> trunk line from the East Coast to California, you could trace email paths 
> from my cube in Connecticut to friends at various Universities on the East 
> Coast, from our office server it would go to our server in California almost 
> instantaneously, then spent the next couple of hours to a day or so wending 
> it's way back to the East Coast through various servers.  I don't think I 
> ever used paper tape, and never saw a punch card after graduate school.  
> Though I did work with 75 baud communications, you could read the octal on a 
> protocol analyzer in real time.  It's a skill I'm glad I've lost.
> 
> On 6/28/2013 3:02 PM, Gerrit Visser wrote:
>> Usenet, dial up modems starting at 300 baud, acoustic couplers, paper tape
>> punching/reading at 110 baud. Ah, the memories
>> 
>> Thank you for providing another sink hole for my time :-)
>> 
>> Gerrit
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
>> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:43 PM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
>> 
>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote:
>>> Manual?  Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers.
>>> What are orkers?  That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds
>>> more like something that a pig would have not a cow...
>> I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet:
>> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html
>> 
>> BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck.
>> 
>> Pick a word, and start following interesting looking links in the
>> definition:
>> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/go01.html
>> 
>> You can even learn about such things as scratch-monkeys:
>> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scratch-monkey.html
>> 
>>> On 6/28/2013 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
 The K-5II has a manual?  A MANUAL!
 We don't need no stinking manuals!
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with
> my cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped
> this pic of Muruga's lunch.  For sucha  silly shot, I think it turned
>> out pretty nice:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/
> 
> --
> Larry Colen  l...@red4est.com
>> http://red4est.com/lrc
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Re: PESO -- Blue

2013-06-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Is that what it's about???
I like the shot. Regardless.

ann

On 6/28/2013 20:33, Rick Womer wrote:

So, the guy didn't leave any fingerprints when he stole the bike?

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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Subject: PESO -- Blue

I've been in a bit of a photographic funk lately, but for some reason I kind of 
like this.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20blue.html

Equipment: Pentax K20R w/smc Pentax 43mm f1.9 Limited.

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Re: PESO -- Blue

2013-06-28 Thread Rick Womer
So, the guy didn't leave any fingerprints when he stole the bike?
 
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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Subject: PESO -- Blue

I've been in a bit of a photographic funk lately, but for some reason I kind of 
like this.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20blue.html

Equipment: Pentax K20R w/smc Pentax 43mm f1.9 Limited.

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Re: OT: not how I want to be remembered

2013-06-28 Thread Rick Womer
Linden, New Joisey.  In the heart of Refinery Land.  It figures.

Rick
 
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From: Collin Brendemuehl 
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Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 5:20 AM
Subject: OT: not how I want to be remembered

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e-ce-d-td-class/1718600-mercedes-benz-y
our-tombstone.html

Besides, it looks like someone broke off the hood ornament.


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Re: Pathetic. That's what it is, pathetic

2013-06-28 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 05:25:13PM -0700, Rick Womer wrote:
> Yeah, the camera market is depressing; but if Pentax invented the most 
> irresistibly whiz-bang, multi-colored, techno-fantastic camera ever, it 
> wouldn't sell because they would forget to tell anybody they'd done it.

It's really a shame that Mark is on holiday.

> 
> Rick
>  
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Aahz Maruch 
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> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 5:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Pathetic. That's what it is, pathetic
> 
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013, John Sessoms wrote:
> >
> > I probably should have just skipped this thread. It depresses me so damn
> > much.
> 
> Honestly, cameras are just plain depressing right now:
> 
> http://www.sansmirror.com/newsviews/panasonics-restructuring.html
> http://www.sansmirror.com/newsviews/more-on-olympus-and-breakev.html
> 
> Unless there's a worldwide change in demand, there's going to be a
> supply-side change pretty soon...
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Re: Pathetic. That's what it is, pathetic

2013-06-28 Thread Rick Womer
Yeah, the camera market is depressing; but if Pentax invented the most 
irresistibly whiz-bang, multi-colored, techno-fantastic camera ever, it 
wouldn't sell because they would forget to tell anybody they'd done it.

Rick
 
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On Fri, Jun 28, 2013, John Sessoms wrote:
>
> I probably should have just skipped this thread. It depresses me so damn
> much.

Honestly, cameras are just plain depressing right now:

http://www.sansmirror.com/newsviews/panasonics-restructuring.html
http://www.sansmirror.com/newsviews/more-on-olympus-and-breakev.html

Unless there's a worldwide change in demand, there's going to be a
supply-side change pretty soon...
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Re: PESO -- Blue

2013-06-28 Thread aggrivatedathotm...@gmail.com

And in case anyone cares there is no K20R I just can't type.

On 6/28/2013 8:05 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
I've been in a bit of a photographic funk lately, but for some reason 
I kind of like this.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20blue.html

Equipment: Pentax K20R w/smc Pentax 43mm f1.9 Limited.

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PESO -- Blue

2013-06-28 Thread P.J. Alling
I've been in a bit of a photographic funk lately, but for some reason I 
kind of like this.


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20blue.html

Equipment: Pentax K20R w/smc Pentax 43mm f1.9 Limited.

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Re: PESO: No Junk Mail

2013-06-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Oddly, my JUly PUG entry that I just uploaded has paws as well... and
I hadn't even seen these others

ann

On 6/28/2013 08:27, Christine Aguila wrote:

Another cute and fun one--first was Bulent's dog portrait and now your 
cat/no-junk-mail portrait--oh, and there is Darren's monkey portrait!  I guess 
it's animal day :-).  Cheers, Christine



On Jun 27, 2013, at 9:27 PM, David Mann  wrote:


...and that's an order.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/634/#peso

Cheers,
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Re: PESO: No Junk Mail

2013-06-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele

rotFL!
ann

On 6/27/2013 22:27, David Mann wrote:

...and that's an order.

http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/634/#peso

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Re: PESO 2013 - 054 - GDG

2013-06-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Good lord, it's Spock!
ann

On 6/28/2013 08:43, Christine Aguila wrote:

both Ranch and this one are very nice. Cheers, christine



On Jun 28, 2013, at 12:43 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:


Still love the expressions and feel of these scenes in cafes ...

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9157067528/lightbox

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Re: 50 gigabytes and an airline ticket

2013-06-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele

What she said -
looking forward to pics

ann

On 6/28/2013 08:54, Christine Aguila wrote:

Have a great trip!  Cheers, Christine


On Jun 27, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:


Well, I've picked my kit and packed my gear for departure to Italy
tomorrow. Here's the kit:
Pentax K-5
12-14/4.0
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Vivitar 70-210
Sony A-850
50mm f/1.7
...and a couple of filters, mini-tripod, batteries and, of course, the
aforementioned 50 gigs of memory.

Despite out best efforts it seems Dario and I won't be able to meet up
during this trip. It's very frustrating to travel so far and get so
close and yet be unable to meet one of those PDMLers I've always
wanted to meet. Also, I won't be able to attend the World Superbike
Championship race taking place at Imola – less than 100 miles away.
Doubly frustrating. So I'll try to make up for it by getting some good
photographs.

We're doing a week of hiking around Cinque Terra and then a week of
hiking in the Dolomites. Should be good, eh? I think we'll have
Internet almost everywhere we go so I'll send a few posts.


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Re: July PUG - Anyone Tempted?

2013-06-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Snakes?

ann (who was a good girl and uploaded a pic for July)

On 6/28/2013 09:54, Bruce Walker wrote:

Ask Savage if he has any spare.

On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 9:46 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:

I'm working on it. I found an apple.

All I need now is a snake and a naked woman.


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Re: July PUG - Anyone Tempted?

2013-06-28 Thread P.J. Alling

Sadly I have nothing tempting in the hopper...

On 6/26/2013 8:07 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

..so far, apparently not :-(>

It's getting close to the deadline and we have zero, nil, nada 
submissions.  Can the theme be that difficult?


There is also an Open Gallery PUG in July (with two submissions).

Anyway, the details:

The May theme is 'Temptation'.

Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

The main requirements are:
* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body 
or lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to 
ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line.

* Closing date for submissions: 30 June.





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Re: July PUG - Anyone Tempted?

2013-06-28 Thread P.J. Alling

That would kind of depend on what kind of snake, now wouldn't it?

On 6/28/2013 6:33 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting John Sessoms :


Not if y'all expect me to have a photo ready to submit by the deadline.



Apple, snake, naked woman - all gratefully received.

(well, maybe not the snake)


Cheers

Brian

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From: "Dario Bonazza"

...and so is the apple.

-Messaggio originale-

From: Mark Roberts
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 3:59 PM
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Subject: Re: July PUG - Anyone Tempted?

John Sessoms wrote:

I'm working on it. I found an apple.

All I need now is a snake and a naked woman.


...and the snake is optional.


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Re: July PUG - Anyone Tempted?

2013-06-28 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting John Sessoms :


Not if y'all expect me to have a photo ready to submit by the deadline.



Apple, snake, naked woman - all gratefully received.

(well, maybe not the snake)


Cheers

Brian

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From: "Dario Bonazza"

...and so is the apple.

-Messaggio originale-

From: Mark Roberts
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 3:59 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: July PUG - Anyone Tempted?

John Sessoms wrote:

I'm working on it. I found an apple.

All I need now is a snake and a naked woman.


...and the snake is optional.


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Re: local boy does good

2013-06-28 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Steve Cottrell :


On 26/6/13, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:


he comes from the land down under


Poor Bill, when was he sent to Hell?



That's a low blow.

Don't we have enough problems with our cricket team without you  
putting the boot in?



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Re: Pathetic. That's what it is, pathetic

2013-06-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Cameras are great! Take pictures!

Paul via phone

On Jun 28, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Aahz Maruch  wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013, John Sessoms wrote:
>> 
>> I probably should have just skipped this thread. It depresses me so damn
>> much.
> 
> Honestly, cameras are just plain depressing right now:
> 
> http://www.sansmirror.com/newsviews/panasonics-restructuring.html
> http://www.sansmirror.com/newsviews/more-on-olympus-and-breakev.html
> 
> Unless there's a worldwide change in demand, there's going to be a
> supply-side change pretty soon...
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Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic

2013-06-28 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jun 28, 2013, at 16:09 , John Sessoms  wrote:

> From: Larry Colen
>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote:
>>> Manual?  Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers.
>>> What are orkers?  That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds
>>> more like something that a pig would have not a cow...
>> 
>> I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet:
>> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html
>> 
>> BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck.
> 
> Believe it or not, I actually have a usenet account. It's the only way I've 
> found to get access to recent episodes of a certain venerable BBC children's 
> program without having to wait for the 50th anniversary for them to come out 
> on DVD.
> 

No Bittorrent options?

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Re: Pathetic. That's what it is, pathetic

2013-06-28 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013, John Sessoms wrote:
>
> I probably should have just skipped this thread. It depresses me so damn
> much.

Honestly, cameras are just plain depressing right now:

http://www.sansmirror.com/newsviews/panasonics-restructuring.html
http://www.sansmirror.com/newsviews/more-on-olympus-and-breakev.html

Unless there's a worldwide change in demand, there's going to be a
supply-side change pretty soon...
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Re: OT Planes, in the south of England 1944

2013-06-28 Thread John Sessoms

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judas_goat#Leader_bombers

... and a Piper Cub story. I cannot verify the veracity, but it was told
to me by one of my college room-mates about his father. Sort of a second
hand, "No shit, there I was" war story.

At the end of the war in Europe his father was an artillery spotter
pilot flying an Army Piper Cub. During one of his missions he
encountered an Me262. The Me262 tried to engage him but could not slow
down enough to get a good firing solution because my room-mates father
could evade with sharp turns & steep climbs the Me262 couldn't match at
its higher speed.

The Me262 pilot was apparently one of those do or die types who just
won't give up ... and eventually crashed when he ran out of fuel. And
the Army, in its infinite wisdom, allowed my room-mate's father to claim
the Me262 as a "kill".

If it's not a true story, it ought to be.

From: mike wilson

Some information on the Piper Cub armed with bazookas on page 2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Carpenter_%28Lt._Col.%29
(You might have to manually add the bracketed end of the URL.) Still
looking for info on the polka-dot B17.

On 28/06/2013, Bob W  wrote:

That's a fascinating set, very interesting indeed. The bases are very flat,
so they're probably in the East of England - Norfolk, Lincolnshire or
Cambridgeshire. There are probably fewer than half a dozen candidates.

B

On 28 Jun 2013, at 00:35, Larry Colen  wrote:




http://www.flickr.com/photos/49024304@N00/sets/72157608125792619/




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RE: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic

2013-06-28 Thread John Sessoms

From: "Gerrit Visser"

Usenet, dial up modems starting at 300 baud, acoustic couplers, paper tape
punching/reading at 110 baud. Ah, the memories

Thank you for providing another sink hole for my time :-)

Gerrit


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thousand paper cuts] - the reason I swore I would NEVER buy a Canon DSLR.

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Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic

2013-06-28 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen

On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote:

Manual?  Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers.
What are orkers?  That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds
more like something that a pig would have not a cow...


I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet:
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html

BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck.


Believe it or not, I actually have a usenet account. It's the only way 
I've found to get access to recent episodes of a certain venerable BBC 
children's program without having to wait for the 50th anniversary for 
them to come out on DVD.


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Re: K100d

2013-06-28 Thread John Sessoms

From: "P.J. Alling"

The sad thing is digital cameras are disposable.  Unlike film cameras
 that if you can find film to feed them will last, (effectively),
forever.


Finding film ain't gonna' be no problem. I just look in my refrigerator
& there's enough to last the rest of my lifetime. I'd really like to get
some of it out of there to make room for food.

I'm not so sanguine about where I'm going to get E-6 & sheet film
processed in days to come. There's still a good pro lab I can use here
in Raleigh, but the depressing truth is I'm afraid some day I'll go in
there and they'll tell me they no longer process film.

And if nothing else, I can take 35mm C-41 & E-6 to Walgreens for now. As
long as I want to cross process the E-6, their machine operators would
probably never notice the difference.

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Re: Pathetic. That's what it is, pathetic

2013-06-28 Thread John Sessoms

From: "P.J. Alling"

B&H advertises what sells, and Pentax doesn't have a camera in the top
10.  It's hard to build a top 10 camera position when you don't have an
entry level offering, and Pentax hasn't had a true entry level DSLR,
since the *ist-Dl, (that may change with the K-500).

They started their line in the low mid range and by perception the K10D
- K-5 II/s cameras were in the top mid range. None of those are top 10
sellers.

The K-01 was a misstep, on the international camera market, (squarely
aimed at a demographic in Japan that may or may not have been impressed).

Maybe the entry level K-500 with semi pro features and pro results will
begin to get some new momentum for Pentax.


I'm not very impressed that their lens offerings are going to help that
much.


Something else that would help might be a re-branding of the Ricoh line
as Ricoh/Pentax, and though it doesn't look like it will happen, (in
fact I think that unfortunately it will go away), they should build an
A12 module or maybe a new A16 module that accepts K mount lenses for the
GRX.  Done properly it would be a less bulky combination than a K-01 and
would make a certain amount of sense, and have tradition behind it as
Ricoh used to make some very nice K mount film cameras.

Then they have to actually show a Full Frame K mount camera, even if
it's just a mock up.



Just showing a mock-up won't do it. They're going to actually have to
have a firm commitment that the camera will be available for purchase by
a date certain. And that date can't be too far in the future.

If they announce it tomorrow to be available within a year from today,
it would still be too late.



Somewhere in there Pentax needs to update the 645D, with a 60mp sensor,
(or give it more SLR like handling characteristics, higher frame rate
etc., to compete with the Full Frame Canikon DSLRs, which seems just
stupid to me, so I'm guessing that's the way Pentax will go), and
actually announce some new lenses or it will become like the K-01 a dead
end and resource sink.


Jeez, that was a long screed, Finally Pentax/Ricoh, has to somehow get
back into the public's perception that they actually still exist and
make cameras.  I've had a number of photographer's be astounded that
Pentax still exists.

They need to fire their advertising agency and hire almost anyone else,
and somehow get into both the remaining local camera stores, which will
be difficult, (they did a presentation lately for Milford Camera to try
to get back on their shelves, but the store passed.  The owner/manager
candidly told me that they already have Canon, Nikon, Olympus, Fuji, and
Sony and yes even carries a Vivitar film SLR, it would require extra
training for very little gain to bring Pentax back).  Pentax needs to
get K-500 Kits into WalMart, Sears, and Best Buy, next to the Nikon
D3100 and Canon Rebels kits, which will be another difficult sell.
Pentax/Ricoh has to be committed to this, it's a big task, Pentax rested
on their laurels so long that they actually turned to dust


Changing advertising agencies is not going to help if they can't get
cameras into the stores where people can actually touch them. I know
Sears & Walmart both "carry" Pentax, but they don't carry them IN THE
STORE. You can order them on-line to be shipped to a store near you, but
you can't walk into a store and buy one.

I did notice in my quick Sears/Walmart/Best Buy search that they're all
pushing the K-30 real hard. Best Buy does have a K-5II kit for sale if
you scroll down the page far enough. Didn't see it offered by the other
two, but that could be because I didn't scroll down enough. Sears
appeared to offer the best selection with the MX, Q-10 and X-5 along
with K-30. Walmart leads with a GOLD K-30.

I probably should have just skipped this thread. It depresses me so damn
much.


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Re: July PUG - Anyone Tempted?

2013-06-28 Thread Paul Sorenson

Working on it...

-p

On 6/26/2013 7:07 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

..so far, apparently not :-(>

It's getting close to the deadline and we have zero, nil, nada
submissions.  Can the theme be that difficult?

There is also an Open Gallery PUG in July (with two submissions).

Anyway, the details:

The May theme is 'Temptation'.

Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

The main requirements are:
* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure
that the image is displayed correctly on line.
* Closing date for submissions: 30 June.




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Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic

2013-06-28 Thread P.J. Alling
Actually I used to subscribe to USENET newsgroups at the first company I 
worked for that had a direct internet connection, (they also had their 
own trunk line from the East Coast to California, you could trace email 
paths from my cube in Connecticut to friends at various Universities on 
the East Coast, from our office server it would go to our server in 
California almost instantaneously, then spent the next couple of hours 
to a day or so wending it's way back to the East Coast through various 
servers.  I don't think I ever used paper tape, and never saw a punch 
card after graduate school.  Though I did work with 75 baud 
communications, you could read the octal on a protocol analyzer in real 
time.  It's a skill I'm glad I've lost.


On 6/28/2013 3:02 PM, Gerrit Visser wrote:

Usenet, dial up modems starting at 300 baud, acoustic couplers, paper tape
punching/reading at 110 baud. Ah, the memories

Thank you for providing another sink hole for my time :-)

Gerrit

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:43 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic

On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote:

Manual?  Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers.
What are orkers?  That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds
more like something that a pig would have not a cow...

I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet:
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html

BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck.

Pick a word, and start following interesting looking links in the
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http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/go01.html

You can even learn about such things as scratch-monkeys:
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scratch-monkey.html


On 6/28/2013 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

The K-5II has a manual?  A MANUAL!
We don't need no stinking manuals!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with
my cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped
this pic of Muruga's lunch.  For sucha  silly shot, I think it turned

out pretty nice:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/

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Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic

2013-06-28 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Jun 28, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 03:02:25PM -0400, Gerrit Visser wrote:
>> Usenet, dial up modems starting at 300 baud, acoustic couplers, paper tape
>> punching/reading at 110 baud. Ah, the memories
> 
> You had 300 baud modems?  We had to implement RFC 1149:
> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt
> 
> What is truly awesome is that some people actually did implement RFC 1149:
> http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/
> 

I was never much of a computer geek, but I did learn to write dial up and 
log-in threads on my Apple //c with AE Express. I started delivering digital 
docs to Popular Mechanics in the early eighties and spent time on some user 
group servers. I remember one group that was based in Jersey called Washington 
Apple Tree. Another was the Micronetworked Apple Users Group or MAUG. I think 
MAUG eventually evolved into Compuserve.

Paul
>> 
>> Thank you for providing another sink hole for my time :-)
>> 
>> Gerrit
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
>> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:43 PM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
>> 
>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote:
>>> Manual?  Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers.
>>> What are orkers?  That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds 
>>> more like something that a pig would have not a cow...
>> 
>> I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet:
>> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html
>> 
>> BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck.  
>> 
>> Pick a word, and start following interesting looking links in the
>> definition:
>> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/go01.html
>> 
>> You can even learn about such things as scratch-monkeys:
>> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scratch-monkey.html
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 6/28/2013 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
 The K-5II has a manual?  A MANUAL!
 We don't need no stinking manuals!
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with 
> my cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped 
> this pic of Muruga's lunch.  For sucha  silly shot, I think it turned
>> out pretty nice:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/
> 
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RE: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic

2013-06-28 Thread Gerrit Visser
Mmn, thank you, I will submit this as a new module for FreeSwitch. Using
Rogers internet for Voip gives almost the same latency :-)


gerrit

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 3:09 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic

On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 03:02:25PM -0400, Gerrit Visser wrote:
> Usenet, dial up modems starting at 300 baud, acoustic couplers, paper 
> tape punching/reading at 110 baud. Ah, the memories

You had 300 baud modems?  We had to implement RFC 1149:
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt

What is truly awesome is that some people actually did implement RFC 1149:
http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/

> 
> Thank you for providing another sink hole for my time :-)
> 
> Gerrit
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:43 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
> 
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote:
> > Manual?  Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers.
> > What are orkers?  That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds 
> > more like something that a pig would have not a cow...
> 
> I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet:
> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html
> 
> BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck.  
> 
> Pick a word, and start following interesting looking links in the
> definition:
> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/go01.html
> 
> You can even learn about such things as scratch-monkeys:
> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scratch-monkey.html
> 
> > 
> > On 6/28/2013 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
> > >The K-5II has a manual?  A MANUAL!
> > >We don't need no stinking manuals!
> > >Regards,  Bob S.
> > >
> > >On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> > >>I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting 
> > >>with my cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I 
> > >>snapped this pic of Muruga's lunch.  For sucha  silly shot, I 
> > >>think it turned
> out pretty nice:
> > >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/
> > >>
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Re: OT Planes, in the south of England 1944

2013-06-28 Thread mike wilson
Some information on the Piper Cub armed with bazookas on page 2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Carpenter_%28Lt._Col.%29
(You might have to manually add the bracketed end of the URL.)  Still
looking for info on the polka-dot B17.

On 28/06/2013, Bob W  wrote:
> That's a fascinating set, very interesting indeed. The bases are very flat,
> so they're probably in the East of England - Norfolk, Lincolnshire or
> Cambridgeshire. There are probably fewer than half a dozen candidates.
>
> B
>
> On 28 Jun 2013, at 00:35, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/49024304@N00/sets/72157608125792619/
>>
>> This is a set of over 300 35mm, black and white negatives found in a
>> basement of an “antique” mall in Wichita Falls, Texas.
>>
>> Strips of 3 to 6 are in glassine sleeves bound in two books designed for
>> the purpose of preserving negatives. Contact prints are taped to each
>> sleeve designating the contents. The labels here are as shown in these
>> notes.
>>
>> The first three pages of each book is an index with identification of each
>> strip of negative, most with notations of f-stop and shutter speed,
>> filters and light conditions.
>>
>> They were apparently taken in England.
>>
>> Many of the shots are of military aircraft, some crashed. There are a few
>> shots of London Sights and a few shots of personnel.
>>
>> Though the camera man took careful notes on subject, lighting f-stop and
>> shutter speed, there are no dates. There are a few shots of London mixed
>> with shots of the base so it can be guessed that the photographer was
>> stationed in the south of England.
>>
>> Some air experts will recognize the planes and serial numbers and the base
>> will eventually be identified, I’m sure.
>>
>> To review all of these in a slightly faster method, there is a double
>> slide show on the LOST GALLERY page.
>>
>> I have added the three actual index pages as entered by the photographer
>> in case I missed something.
>>
>> All photographs are the property of Lost Gallery. Any of the photographs
>> can be used on other web sites but a link back to the original here must
>> be included
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Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic

2013-06-28 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 03:02:25PM -0400, Gerrit Visser wrote:
> Usenet, dial up modems starting at 300 baud, acoustic couplers, paper tape
> punching/reading at 110 baud. Ah, the memories

You had 300 baud modems?  We had to implement RFC 1149:
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt

What is truly awesome is that some people actually did implement RFC 1149:
http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/

> 
> Thank you for providing another sink hole for my time :-)
> 
> Gerrit
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:43 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
> 
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote:
> > Manual?  Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers.
> > What are orkers?  That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds 
> > more like something that a pig would have not a cow...
> 
> I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet:
> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html
> 
> BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck.  
> 
> Pick a word, and start following interesting looking links in the
> definition:
> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/go01.html
> 
> You can even learn about such things as scratch-monkeys:
> http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scratch-monkey.html
> 
> > 
> > On 6/28/2013 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
> > >The K-5II has a manual?  A MANUAL!
> > >We don't need no stinking manuals!
> > >Regards,  Bob S.
> > >
> > >On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> > >>I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with 
> > >>my cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped 
> > >>this pic of Muruga's lunch.  For sucha  silly shot, I think it turned
> out pretty nice:
> > >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/
> > >>
> > >>--
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> http://red4est.com/lrc
> > >>
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RE: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic

2013-06-28 Thread Gerrit Visser
Usenet, dial up modems starting at 300 baud, acoustic couplers, paper tape
punching/reading at 110 baud. Ah, the memories

Thank you for providing another sink hole for my time :-)

Gerrit

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:43 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic

On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote:
> Manual?  Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers.
> What are orkers?  That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds 
> more like something that a pig would have not a cow...

I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet:
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html

BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck.  

Pick a word, and start following interesting looking links in the
definition:
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/go01.html

You can even learn about such things as scratch-monkeys:
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scratch-monkey.html

> 
> On 6/28/2013 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
> >The K-5II has a manual?  A MANUAL!
> >We don't need no stinking manuals!
> >Regards,  Bob S.
> >
> >On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> >>I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with 
> >>my cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped 
> >>this pic of Muruga's lunch.  For sucha  silly shot, I think it turned
out pretty nice:
> >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/
> >>
> >>--
> >>Larry Colen  l...@red4est.com
http://red4est.com/lrc
> >>
> >>
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Not quite FSF: FZ-35 (was Re: OT: My first Leica experience (2 images))

2013-06-28 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013, Walt wrote:
> On 6/27/2013 2:24 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>>
>>I had both a panasonic fz-28 and fz-35. I think the v-lux 1 is the
>>same as an fz-50. They all had great, great optics that more than made
>>up for the noisy sensors panny was using. When they switched from CCD
>>to MOS (which gave even worse quality) I quit buying them and bought
>>my first DSLR. I've made some really nice prints from those cameras.
>
> It's a shame they went to an even noisier sensor. I haven't tried
> shooting the V-Lux at anything over ISO 100 so far. At what point
> does the noise start to really degrade the image?
> 
> I really do like the lens a lot. If I found an exceptional deal on a
> gently used one of those Panasonic somewhere, I'd be sorely tempted
> to buy it as a lightweight carry-around for snapshots.

De gustibus strikes again!  My primary really dislikes zir FZ-35, partly
because of the poor low-light performance, partly because some modes
won't shoot RAW, but mostly because the interface is clumsy (which I
agree with after trying some moon shots).  It does take nice shots within
its limitations.

We're probably getting the Fuji X-S1 to replace it.

If you (or anyone else, which is why I'm cc'ing the list) would be
interested in the FZ-35, please e-mail me privately and I'll let you
know when it's available.  A proposed price would be welcome.

(Wouldn't normally advertize it here, but other people brought it up...)
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Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic

2013-06-28 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote:
> Manual?  Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers.
> What are orkers?  That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds
> more like something that a pig would have not a cow...

I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet:
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html

BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck.  

Pick a word, and start following interesting looking links in the definition:
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You can even learn about such things as scratch-monkeys:
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scratch-monkey.html

> 
> On 6/28/2013 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
> >The K-5II has a manual?  A MANUAL!
> >We don't need no stinking manuals!
> >Regards,  Bob S.
> >
> >On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> >>I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with my
> >>cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped this pic
> >>of Muruga's lunch.  For sucha  silly shot, I think it turned out pretty 
> >>nice:
> >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/
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Re: PESO: Father's Day

2013-06-28 Thread Aahz Maruch
Wrong, it's bee-yootiful

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Beautiful!
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> 
> From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
> Sent: June 16, 2013 6/16/13
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: PESO: Father's Day
> 
> Every year, our prickly pear cactus burst into bloom to celebrate the
> event.  Perhaps there is a (not too deeply) hidden message in that.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17425643&size=md
> Comments are invited.
> 
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> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic

2013-06-28 Thread P.J. Alling

By the way one should never examine noodles too closely...

On 6/28/2013 5:00 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with my
cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped this pic
of Muruga's lunch.  For sucha  silly shot, I think it turned out pretty nice:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/




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Re: OT: My first Leica experience (2 images)

2013-06-28 Thread P.J. Alling

Don't forget the astounding wallet busting price.

On 6/27/2013 2:56 PM, Walt wrote:
My pal, Dan, loaned me his Leica V-Lux 1 for a couple of weeks just to 
kick the tires on it a bit.


I have to say, for a point and shoot, I'm pretty impressed. The build 
quality is no great shakes, and it definitely lacks the responsiveness 
of a DSLR.


But, so far, the glass seems really, /really/ nice.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060941/
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060027/

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Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic

2013-06-28 Thread P.J. Alling
Manual?  Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers. What 
are orkers?  That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds more like 
something that a pig would have not a cow...


On 6/28/2013 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

The K-5II has a manual?  A MANUAL!
We don't need no stinking manuals!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with my
cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped this pic
of Muruga's lunch.  For sucha  silly shot, I think it turned out pretty nice:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/

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Re: K100d

2013-06-28 Thread P.J. Alling
The sad thing is digital cameras are disposable.  Unlike film cameras 
that if you can find film to feed them will last, (effectively), forever.


On 6/28/2013 10:16 AM, Zos Xavius wrote:

Yeah, that would be annoying. My k-7 has started showing a vertical
green line. Glad I'm not alone in the sensor failing dept. I mapped
the pixels and it hasn't shown up since, but I'm sure it will
eventually on some random irreplaceable shot. The dust i have is
behind the AA filter. it shows up at nearly all apertures. Thankfully
it is near the upper left corner and not in the middle. Oh and the
seal around my shutter button is failing. It sometimes gets water in
the shutter and on/off switch. After a day it will dry out. It took 2
hours of sitting on a tripod in a severe downpour for that to happen
the other day. The half press is wonky so I moved the AF to the back
button. About a year or so ago I spilled some coffee on the shutter
button. I tried to get the stickiness out of the switch, but I'm
guessing the contact cleaner I used probably ate into the weather
sealing. Its no longer sticky at least. The cost to service it would
be probably 3-400. I could buy a virtually new k-7 for that much,
though I am rather fond of that camera and how abused and used it
looks now. I guess I'll keep shooting with it until it totally dies or
becomes unusable.

On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 9:43 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:

From: Zos Xavius


My k-7 has two permanent dust spots. They are annoying for sure, but
not enough for me to replace the camera just yet.


I wish this was just dust spots. This is a clump of about 150 bad pixels
(if you blow it up enough in PhotoShop you can count them). If I shoot a
dark frame with the lens cap on, the spot can be seen in image review on
the LCD.

In light areas of an image they show up as a hard black dot. In dark
areas of an image, they show up as a hard bright white dot. I can
usually zoom in tight in ACR & take it out with the spot healing tool.

Occasionally it's accompanied by a red line one pixel high across the
width of the image. When the line is there, it's one row higher to the
right of the dot than it is on the left.

If the line is there, it won't come out with the spot healing tool in
ACR. It has to be removed in PhotoShop itself, and it's a PITA.

Still, as you say "annoying for sure, but not enough for me to replace
the camera"

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Re: OT, the future of moving images

2013-06-28 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 26/6/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Probably old hat (heh!) to Cotty, but I found this article on moving pictures
>quite interesting, and suspect that a few other nerds on the list might also:



Only the first page was old hat. The rest was very interesting.

The next gen up from HD will be what he refers to as 'UHDTV', and what
in the UK industry is called '4K' - but honestly, it takes years for the
hardware to filter through down to the productions companies and
broadcasters. The costs involved are astronomical.

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Re: K-5 / K-5II differences

2013-06-28 Thread P.J. Alling

From what I understand functionally no.

On 6/28/2013 5:01 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

Other than the improved autofocus, are there any actual functional changes
between the two cameras?  Or are the menus, and what they do, the same?




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Re: Pathetic. That's what it is, pathetic.

2013-06-28 Thread P.J. Alling
B&H advertises what sells, and Pentax doesn't have a camera in the top 
10.  It's hard to build a top 10 camera position when you don't have an 
entry level offering, and Pentax hasn't had a true entry level DSLR, 
since the *ist-Dl, (that may change with the K-500).


They started their line in the low mid range and by perception the K10D 
- K-5 II/s cameras were in the top mid range. None of those are top 10 
sellers.


The K-01 was a misstep, on the international camera market, (squarely 
aimed at a demographic in Japan that may or may not have been impressed).


Maybe the entry level K-500 with semi pro features and pro results will 
begin to get some new momentum for Pentax.


Something else that would help might be a re-branding of the Ricoh line 
as Ricoh/Pentax, and though it doesn't look like it will happen, (in 
fact I think that unfortunately it will go away), they should build an 
A12 module or maybe a new A16 module that accepts K mount lenses for the 
GRX.  Done properly it would be a less bulky combination than a K-01 and 
would make a certain amount of sense, and have tradition behind it as 
Ricoh used to make some very nice K mount film cameras.


Then they have to actually show a Full Frame K mount camera, even if 
it's just a mock up.


Somewhere in there Pentax needs to update the 645D, with a 60mp sensor, 
(or give it more SLR like handling characteristics, higher frame rate 
etc., to compete with the Full Frame Canikon DSLRs, which seems just 
stupid to me, so I'm guessing that's the way Pentax will go), and 
actually announce some new lenses or it will become like the K-01 a dead 
end and resource sink.



Jeez, that was a long screed, Finally Pentax/Ricoh, has to somehow get 
back into the public's perception that they actually still exist and 
make cameras.  I've had a number of photographer's be astounded that 
Pentax still exists.


They need to fire their advertising agency and hire almost anyone else, 
and somehow get into both the remaining local camera stores, which will 
be difficult, (they did a presentation lately for Milford Camera to try 
to get back on their shelves, but the store passed.  The owner/manager 
candidly told me that they already have Canon, Nikon, Olympus, Fuji, and 
Sony and yes even carries a Vivitar film SLR, it would require extra 
training for very little gain to bring Pentax back).  Pentax needs to 
get K-500 Kits into WalMart, Sears, and Best Buy, next to the Nikon 
D3100 and Canon Rebels kits, which will be another difficult sell.  
Pentax/Ricoh has to be committed to this, it's a big task, Pentax rested 
on their laurels so long that they actually turned to dust








On 6/27/2013 8:39 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

...to quote Eeyore.*

I was just leafing through the latest Shutterbug.  B&H has 14 pages of 
advertising.

In that 14 pages, there is 1/10 of a page devoted to Pentax, and it consists of 
a list of lenses, without prices.

In 1 1/2 pages of mirrorless cameras, no Pentax.

Canon and Nikon each have a full page of SLRs, lenses, and accessories.  No 
Pentax. (K-5II? K-5-IIs? What are they?)

It =still= doesn't seem to have dawned on Pentax USA that if they are going to 
sell cameras, they have to let somebody know that the cameras exist!

Meanwhile, if one goes to www.pentaxian.com, one sees Godders and colleagues 
extolling the virtues of the K10D.

Oy.

Rick



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Re: Recovered images

2013-06-28 Thread George Sinos
I think those were well worth the effort to recover.  GS
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On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:
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> On Jun 27, 2013, at 3:17 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>
>> I disagree.  There are a number of very fine images there.
>
> Thanks, Dan. At this point, with this group, I'm hesitant to share my images. 
> Though until recently I haven't been doing much with the camera since these 
> images were made last August.
>
>> The one shot of the cliff face resembles the (former) Old Man of the
>> Mountain, that is a New Hampshire icon even though it collapsed years
>> ago.
>
> Yeah, and like in that area in New Hampshire, there is a lot of rock climbing 
> here, too.
>
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>
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Re: July PUG - Anyone Tempted?

2013-06-28 Thread John Sessoms

Not if y'all expect me to have a photo ready to submit by the deadline.

From: "Dario Bonazza"

...and so is the apple.

-Messaggio originale-

From: Mark Roberts
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 3:59 PM
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Subject: Re: July PUG - Anyone Tempted?

John Sessoms wrote:

I'm working on it. I found an apple.

All I need now is a snake and a naked woman.


...and the snake is optional.


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Re: OT: My first Leica experience (2 images)

2013-06-28 Thread Walt

Thanks, Bruce.

I'm fortunate enough to have some very photogenic great-nieces.

-- Walt

On 6/27/2013 7:07 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

That's an excellent image, Walt.

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Walt  wrote:

Here's the new crop with a touch of softening -- just because I thought it
looked a little better that way.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9155680616/

Thanks again for the heads-up! I think it really did improve the shot.


-- Walt

On 6/27/2013 3:57 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

A nice image. I saw your first link on my Flickr page, since I have
made you a contact. If I may...I was really struck by the Flickr crop
of the image which, after comparing, I think is even more powerful
than the full frame:
http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/waltcrop.png


On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:

If you get a Panny, the fz-35 was the best superzoom they made IMO.
Probably the best superzoom ever. IQ at ISO 100-200 is not bad.
Especially if you shoot RAW. The Panny JPEG engine is well known for
turning photographs into watercolors. At 400 it starts to creep in
pretty good, but you can still get images suitable for smaller prints.
The lens on the fz-28/fz-35 is sharpest around f4 and is very usable
wide open, which is f2.8 at the wide end. Diffraction starts kicking
in at f5 anyways, so you have a fairly limited fstop range to work
with to begin with. Much like the Q. The image stabilization on those
cameras is really, really good too. How many sharp shots can you get
with your pentax at 1/20s @ 500mm? I carried one of these cameras
everywhere for a few years and they served me rather well. The video
off the fz-35 was quite decent in good light too. Only 720p though.

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Walt  wrote:

It's a shame they went to an even noisier sensor. I haven't tried
shooting
the V-Lux at anything over ISO 100 so far. At what point does the noise
start to really degrade the image?

I really do like the lens a lot. If I found an exceptional deal on a
gently
used one of those Panasonic somewhere, I'd be sorely tempted to buy it
as a
lightweight carry-around for snapshots.

-- Walt


On 6/27/2013 2:24 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

I had both a panasonic fz-28 and fz-35. I think the v-lux 1 is the
same as an fz-50. They all had great, great optics that more than made
up for the noisy sensors panny was using. When they switched from CCD
to MOS (which gave even worse quality) I quit buying them and bought
my first DSLR. I've made some really nice prints from those cameras.

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Walt  wrote:

My pal, Dan, loaned me his Leica V-Lux 1 for a couple of weeks just to
kick
the tires on it a bit.

I have to say, for a point and shoot, I'm pretty impressed. The build
quality is no great shakes, and it definitely lacks the responsiveness
of
a
DSLR.

But, so far, the glass seems really, /really/ nice.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060941/
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9152060027/

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Re: local boy does good

2013-06-28 Thread Kenneth Waller
Very nice work, very creative!


-Original Message-
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>Subject: local boy does good
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Re: July PUG - Anyone Tempted?

2013-06-28 Thread Jack Davis
mmm..the apple, maybe. The snake, maybe not..??
 


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...and so is the apple.

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From: Mark Roberts
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John Sessoms wrote:

>I'm working on it. I found an apple.
>
>All I need now is a snake and a naked woman.

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Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic

2013-06-28 Thread Bob Sullivan
The K-5II has a manual?  A MANUAL!
We don't need no stinking manuals!
Regards,  Bob S.

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> I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with my
> cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped this pic
> of Muruga's lunch.  For sucha  silly shot, I think it turned out pretty nice:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/
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Re: K100d

2013-06-28 Thread Zos Xavius
Yeah, that would be annoying. My k-7 has started showing a vertical
green line. Glad I'm not alone in the sensor failing dept. I mapped
the pixels and it hasn't shown up since, but I'm sure it will
eventually on some random irreplaceable shot. The dust i have is
behind the AA filter. it shows up at nearly all apertures. Thankfully
it is near the upper left corner and not in the middle. Oh and the
seal around my shutter button is failing. It sometimes gets water in
the shutter and on/off switch. After a day it will dry out. It took 2
hours of sitting on a tripod in a severe downpour for that to happen
the other day. The half press is wonky so I moved the AF to the back
button. About a year or so ago I spilled some coffee on the shutter
button. I tried to get the stickiness out of the switch, but I'm
guessing the contact cleaner I used probably ate into the weather
sealing. Its no longer sticky at least. The cost to service it would
be probably 3-400. I could buy a virtually new k-7 for that much,
though I am rather fond of that camera and how abused and used it
looks now. I guess I'll keep shooting with it until it totally dies or
becomes unusable.

On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 9:43 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: Zos Xavius
>
>> My k-7 has two permanent dust spots. They are annoying for sure, but
>> not enough for me to replace the camera just yet.
>
>
> I wish this was just dust spots. This is a clump of about 150 bad pixels
> (if you blow it up enough in PhotoShop you can count them). If I shoot a
> dark frame with the lens cap on, the spot can be seen in image review on
> the LCD.
>
> In light areas of an image they show up as a hard black dot. In dark
> areas of an image, they show up as a hard bright white dot. I can
> usually zoom in tight in ACR & take it out with the spot healing tool.
>
> Occasionally it's accompanied by a red line one pixel high across the
> width of the image. When the line is there, it's one row higher to the
> right of the dot than it is on the left.
>
> If the line is there, it won't come out with the spot healing tool in
> ACR. It has to be removed in PhotoShop itself, and it's a PITA.
>
> Still, as you say "annoying for sure, but not enough for me to replace
> the camera"
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Re: You think Pentax lens prices are bad?

2013-06-28 Thread Bill

On 28/06/2013 7:09 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Wow!  Doesn't Canon have a 50/1.2?  Wonder what that's going for now?  (These days it 
seems silly to write  questions like the latter with the verb "to google" so 
ubiquitous and virtually effortless--hence, it's selling on amazon for $1,400.)  Cheers, 
Christine


Fuji has a 56/1.2 in the works for the X-Mount, apparently slated for 
release early next year.. I suspect it will be in the $1500.00 range, 
Fuji glass is quite expensive. It is one of the three lenses I want for 
my X-Pro1.


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Re: July PUG - Anyone Tempted?

2013-06-28 Thread Mark Roberts
John Sessoms wrote:

>I'm working on it. I found an apple.
>
>All I need now is a snake and a naked woman.

...and the snake is optional.
 
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Re: July PUG - Anyone Tempted?

2013-06-28 Thread Dario Bonazza

...and so is the apple.

-Messaggio originale- 
From: Mark Roberts

Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 3:59 PM
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John Sessoms wrote:


I'm working on it. I found an apple.

All I need now is a snake and a naked woman.


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Re: 50 gigabytes and an airline ticket

2013-06-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Peter McIntosh wrote:

>I was there 3 weeks ago and as John says parts of the coastal path are
>closed due to landslides, and the middle village  -Corniglia - was
>inaccessible from land; we couldn' tget there in at all.
>
>+1 for the gelatos at Manorola too... :-)
>
>You'll certainly have better weather than us - it was cold and wet
>when we were there...

Our trip was arranged by a package tour company and they've already
made changes for us due to the landslides. Hope they did a good job of
it because we're on our own when we get there!

 
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Re: July PUG - Anyone Tempted?

2013-06-28 Thread Bruce Walker
Ask Savage if he has any spare.

On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 9:46 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> I'm working on it. I found an apple.
>
> All I need now is a snake and a naked woman.
>
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Re: July PUG - Anyone Tempted?

2013-06-28 Thread Peter McIntosh
On 28 June 2013 23:46, John Sessoms  wrote:
> I'm working on it. I found an apple.
>
> All I need now is a snake and a naked woman.
>
>

MARK!!!

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Re: July PUG - Anyone Tempted?

2013-06-28 Thread John Sessoms

I'm working on it. I found an apple.

All I need now is a snake and a naked woman.

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Re: 50 gigabytes and an airline ticket

2013-06-28 Thread Peter McIntosh
I was there 3 weeks ago and as John says parts of the coastal path are
closed due to landslides, and the middle village  -Corniglia - was
inaccessible from land; we couldn' tget there in at all.

+1 for the gelatos at Manorola too... :-)

You'll certainly have better weather than us - it was cold and wet
when we were there...

Ciao,

Pete Mac in Melbourne (who could quite easily live in Levanto...)



On 28 June 2013 16:54, John Coyle  wrote:
> You may not be able to hike the coastal path at Cinque Terre.  There have 
> been a couple of
> landslides recently and parts of the coastal path were wiped out.  However, 
> there is some great
> scenery in some of the cliff-top areas, and you can also get down to the 
> villages from the top quite
> easily.  Let me recommend a gelato in Manarola, at the café on the 
> waterfront, left-hand side of the
> street going down - my wife said it was the best!
>
> Have a good trip!
>
>
> John Coyle
> Brisbane, Australia
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts
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>
> Well, I've picked my kit and packed my gear for departure to Italy tomorrow. 
> Here's the kit:
> Pentax K-5
> 12-14/4.0
> 16-50/2.8
> Vivitar 70-210
> Sony A-850
> 50mm f/1.7
> ...and a couple of filters, mini-tripod, batteries and, of course, the 
> aforementioned 50 gigs of
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> this trip. It's very
> frustrating to travel so far and get so close and yet be unable to meet one 
> of those PDMLers I've
> always wanted to meet. Also, I won't be able to attend the World Superbike 
> Championship race taking
> place at Imola – less than 100 miles away.
> Doubly frustrating. So I'll try to make up for it by getting some good 
> photographs.
>
> We're doing a week of hiking around Cinque Terra and then a week of hiking in 
> the Dolomites. Should
> be good, eh? I think we'll have Internet almost everywhere we go so I'll send 
> a few posts.
>
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Re: K100d

2013-06-28 Thread John Sessoms

From: Zos Xavius

My k-7 has two permanent dust spots. They are annoying for sure, but
not enough for me to replace the camera just yet.


I wish this was just dust spots. This is a clump of about 150 bad pixels
(if you blow it up enough in PhotoShop you can count them). If I shoot a
dark frame with the lens cap on, the spot can be seen in image review on
the LCD.

In light areas of an image they show up as a hard black dot. In dark
areas of an image, they show up as a hard bright white dot. I can
usually zoom in tight in ACR & take it out with the spot healing tool.

Occasionally it's accompanied by a red line one pixel high across the
width of the image. When the line is there, it's one row higher to the
right of the dot than it is on the left.

If the line is there, it won't come out with the spot healing tool in
ACR. It has to be removed in PhotoShop itself, and it's a PITA.

Still, as you say "annoying for sure, but not enough for me to replace
the camera"

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Re: You think Pentax lens prices are bad?

2013-06-28 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow!  Doesn't Canon have a 50/1.2?  Wonder what that's going for now?  (These 
days it seems silly to write  questions like the latter with the verb "to 
google" so ubiquitous and virtually effortless--hence, it's selling on amazon 
for $1,400.)  Cheers, Christine



On Jun 26, 2013, at 2:58 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> Check out the Buy it now price for this Canon 50/1.8
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-EF-50mm-f18-II-Standard-AutoFocus-Lens-2514A011AA-JAPAN-NEW-/231006798452
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Re: OT: Pictures of the Year International photojournalism contest

2013-06-28 Thread Christine Aguila
Some stunning work to be sure.  I love Huntress--contemporary, yet evokes the 
past as well.  Excellent!  Thanks for posting.   Cheers, Christine


On Jun 26, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

> http://www.kashmirprism.com/2013/04/pictures-of-year-70th-annual.html
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Re: PESO Ivory silk, obverse

2013-06-28 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks, Christine!

On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> Ah, much prefer this one!  Lovely!  Cheers, Christine
>
>
> On Jun 26, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>
>> "The other side"
>>
>> http://flic.kr/p/eVTxtn
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Re: PESO: No Junk Mail

2013-06-28 Thread Bruce Walker
I love it!

On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:27 PM, David Mann  wrote:
> ...and that's an order.
>
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/634/#peso
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Re: GESO The Brawley

2013-06-28 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Walt  wrote:
> Wow, Bruce! I'm surprised you haven't shot with a K-5 yet.
>
> I have to say, I like the layout of the K20D a little better, and it seems
> to have fewer "quirks" than the K-5 -- like the fact that the K-5 switches
> out of AF-S a little too easily for my taste and seems to like to turn on
> its electronic level display on the LCD completely unprompted from time to
> time. (I don't know /what/ I'm doing to cause that!)
>
> But, you're going to love working with the dynamic range and low-light
> performance. In fact, you'll love it so much, you'll decide to become a
> strict available-light photographer and give all your lighting gear to me.
> And I'll reluctantly, but graciously, accept it. Because that's just the
> kind of guy I am.
>
> -- Walt

Thank you, Walt. It is through displays of selfless generosity like
this that the PDML has become the close and supportive community it is
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Re: OT GESO - wet nighties

2013-06-28 Thread Christine Aguila
Atmospheric and moody-- great people grabs.  Lots of fun, Derby!  Cheers, 
Christine



On Jun 26, 2013, at 7:12 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:

> 
> Since I'm on a Chandleresque mood...
> 
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/06/wetnighties/index.html
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Re: 50 gigabytes and an airline ticket

2013-06-28 Thread Christine Aguila
Have a great trip!  Cheers, Christine


On Jun 27, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:

> Well, I've picked my kit and packed my gear for departure to Italy
> tomorrow. Here's the kit:
> Pentax K-5
> 12-14/4.0
> 16-50/2.8
> Vivitar 70-210
> Sony A-850
> 50mm f/1.7
> ...and a couple of filters, mini-tripod, batteries and, of course, the
> aforementioned 50 gigs of memory.
> 
> Despite out best efforts it seems Dario and I won't be able to meet up
> during this trip. It's very frustrating to travel so far and get so
> close and yet be unable to meet one of those PDMLers I've always
> wanted to meet. Also, I won't be able to attend the World Superbike
> Championship race taking place at Imola – less than 100 miles away.
> Doubly frustrating. So I'll try to make up for it by getting some good
> photographs.
> 
> We're doing a week of hiking around Cinque Terra and then a week of
> hiking in the Dolomites. Should be good, eh? I think we'll have
> Internet almost everywhere we go so I'll send a few posts.
> 
> 
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> www.robertstech.com
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Re: PESO 2013 - 054 - GDG

2013-06-28 Thread Christine Aguila
both Ranch and this one are very nice. Cheers, christine



On Jun 28, 2013, at 12:43 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:

> Still love the expressions and feel of these scenes in cafes ...
> 
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9157067528/lightbox
> 
> thanks for looking! comments appreciated.
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Re: PESO - Benched

2013-06-28 Thread Christine Aguila
What Mark said!  Cheers, Christine



On Jun 27, 2013, at 9:41 PM, Mark C  wrote:

> Nice placement in the frame and use of the negative space behind her. Creates 
> a sense of isolation or withdrawal.
> 
> Mark
> 
> On 6/25/2013 4:07 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17436747&size=lg
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Re: PESO - Female Red Wing Blackbird

2013-06-28 Thread Christine Aguila
Bird nicely shot, crisp and sharp--that bit of green at the bottom is a tad 
distracting--but that's a minor nit.  Overall, nicely done.  Cheers, Christine


On Jun 27, 2013, at 6:23 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

> Wish the sky were a bit more blue. Otherwise, hope you enjoy:
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/06/female-red-wing-blackbird.html?m=1
> 
> Comments always welcome.
> 
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> frank 
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Re: PESO - Grab Portrait

2013-06-28 Thread Christine Aguila
Great expression--great eyes!  Well done, Paul!  Cheers, Christine



On Jun 27, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> This young lady, who sells flowers at the farmers market,  happened to be in 
> a nice environment when she looked at me. I happened to have my flash set at 
> -1 stop exposure comp, just enough for a bit of fill and some catchlights:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17431930
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Re: PESO - Wet Blading

2013-06-28 Thread Christine Aguila
What Rick said!  Cheers, Christine


On Jun 26, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:

> Frank, I really like this one.  The subject, colors, and textures are great, 
> and the composition and panning are remarkable for a "hip shot".
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
>  
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "knarftheria...@gmail.com" 
> To: PDML@pdml.net
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 7:59 AM
> Subject: PESO - Wet Blading
> 
> From the hip:
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/06/wet-blading.html?m=1
> 
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
> 
> Cheers,
> frank 
> 
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Re: PESO Ivory silk, obverse

2013-06-28 Thread Christine Aguila
Ah, much prefer this one!  Lovely!  Cheers, Christine


On Jun 26, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> "The other side"
> 
> http://flic.kr/p/eVTxtn
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Re: Peso Multi rose

2013-06-28 Thread Christine Aguila
I agree a bit with Bruce.  Maybe it's my eyes, but the piece of grass on the 
right seems sharper than the flower.  Cheers, Christine



On Jun 27, 2013, at 8:03 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

> A beautiful bloom, Dave. Looks just like a Joseph's Coat to me.
> 
> The grass itself doesn't bother me though I'd darken it some, myself.
> I just think that the bloom seems a bit crowded in the frame -- could
> use space below it. If you shot this as portrait with the flower high,
> maybe. Just analyzing out loud. :-)
> 
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:28 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17440141
>> 
>> Having a lot of rain lately, so flowers and water drops are not hard
>> to get. Just wondering if the bit of grass off to the right is to much
>> of a distraction.
>> 
>> K-R FA 100 f2.8 macro
>> 
>> Dave
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Re: PESOs: Simians via Bigma

2013-06-28 Thread Christine Aguila
Good one--your Simian looks melancholy and I like the bw rendering.  Cheers, 
Christine


On Jun 27, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:

> A couple of more images from our recent trip to the world class Henry
> Doorly Zoo in Omaha. If you ever get the chance, it could easily be a
> multi-day experience. I shot with the Bigma for most of the day (with
> the exception being a switch to the Sigma EX 10-20mm for the
> aquarium). Here are two simians that I decided that I liked best when
> converted to B&W:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/9145378146/
> 
> This one was taken through thick dirty glass, but I'm glad I gave it a
> shot anyway:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/9150658169/
> 
> That Bigma has spent a lot of time on my camera since I got it. Sort
> of wondering how I ever lived without it. It is a good 'un.
> 
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Re: PESO: No Junk Mail

2013-06-28 Thread Christine Aguila
Another cute and fun one--first was Bulent's dog portrait and now your 
cat/no-junk-mail portrait--oh, and there is Darren's monkey portrait!  I guess 
it's animal day :-).  Cheers, Christine


 
On Jun 27, 2013, at 9:27 PM, David Mann  wrote:

> ...and that's an order.
> 
> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/634/#peso
> 
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Re: PESO. Pebble & I.

2013-06-28 Thread Christine Aguila
That's cute and fun, Bulent.  Cheers, Christine


On Jun 27, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Bulent Celasun  wrote:

> A double portrait without faces.
> Taken using a Panasonic LX5 by a Pentaxian ;)
> 
> http://celasun.wordpress.com/2013/06/10/cakil-ve-ben/
> 
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Re: July PUG - Anyone Tempted?

2013-06-28 Thread Dario Bonazza
Well, other brands ARE a big temptation, hence they could be on topic (this 
time).

Dario

-Messaggio originale- 
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Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 9:19 AM
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Subject: Re: July PUG - Anyone Tempted?

On 27/6/13, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:


..so far, apparently not :-(>


If you'd like to create an 'other brands' section, I'd be happy to
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OT: not how I want to be remembered

2013-06-28 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e-ce-d-td-class/1718600-mercedes-benz-y
our-tombstone.html

Besides, it looks like someone broke off the hood ornament.


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K-5 / K-5II differences

2013-06-28 Thread Larry Colen
Other than the improved autofocus, are there any actual functional changes
between the two cameras?  Or are the menus, and what they do, the same?

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PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic

2013-06-28 Thread Larry Colen
I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with my
cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped this pic
of Muruga's lunch.  For sucha  silly shot, I think it turned out pretty nice:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/

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Re: Recovered images

2013-06-28 Thread Eric Weir

On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:00 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:

>  It's the New River Gorge in East Virginia

Oops! Shoulda been *West* Virginia. 

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Re: Recovered images

2013-06-28 Thread Eric Weir

On Jun 27, 2013, at 3:17 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

> I disagree.  There are a number of very fine images there.

Thanks, Dan. At this point, with this group, I'm hesitant to share my images. 
Though until recently I haven't been doing much with the camera since these 
images were made last August.

> The one shot of the cliff face resembles the (former) Old Man of the
> Mountain, that is a New Hampshire icon even though it collapsed years
> ago.

Yeah, and like in that area in New Hampshire, there is a lot of rock climbing 
here, too.

But why "former"?

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Re: Recovered images

2013-06-28 Thread Eric Weir

On Jun 27, 2013, at 8:52 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

> Still better than NO recovered images.

Oh, man, let me tell you. I will be making a generous contribution to the 
developer of this plugin.

> Tallulah Gorge?

Sorry, should made that clear. It's the New River Gorge in East Virginia. It's 
the biggest and best know of  three nationally designated rivers in the area. 
Probably the most challenging whitewater river East of the Mississippi. And in 
the nation for that matter.

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Re: OT Planes, in the south of England 1944

2013-06-28 Thread Bob W
That's a fascinating set, very interesting indeed. The bases are very flat, so 
they're probably in the East of England - Norfolk, Lincolnshire or 
Cambridgeshire. There are probably fewer than half a dozen candidates.

B

On 28 Jun 2013, at 00:35, Larry Colen  wrote:

> 
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/49024304@N00/sets/72157608125792619/
> 
> This is a set of over 300 35mm, black and white negatives found in a basement 
> of an “antique” mall in Wichita Falls, Texas.
> 
> Strips of 3 to 6 are in glassine sleeves bound in two books designed for the 
> purpose of preserving negatives. Contact prints are taped to each sleeve 
> designating the contents. The labels here are as shown in these notes.
> 
> The first three pages of each book is an index with identification of each 
> strip of negative, most with notations of f-stop and shutter speed, filters 
> and light conditions.
> 
> They were apparently taken in England.
> 
> Many of the shots are of military aircraft, some crashed. There are a few 
> shots of London Sights and a few shots of personnel.
> 
> Though the camera man took careful notes on subject, lighting f-stop and 
> shutter speed, there are no dates. There are a few shots of London mixed with 
> shots of the base so it can be guessed that the photographer was stationed in 
> the south of England.
> 
> Some air experts will recognize the planes and serial numbers and the base 
> will eventually be identified, I’m sure.
> 
> To review all of these in a slightly faster method, there is a double slide 
> show on the LOST GALLERY page.
> 
> I have added the three actual index pages as entered by the photographer in 
> case I missed something.
> 
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> be used on other web sites but a link back to the original here must be 
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Re: OT Planes, in the south of England 1944

2013-06-28 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/6/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/49024304@N00/sets/72157608125792619/
>
>This is a set of over 300 35mm, black and white negatives found in a
>basement of an "antique" mall in Wichita Falls, Texas

Thanks for posting Larry - I know quite a few people who would be
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RE: OT Planes, in the south of England 1944

2013-06-28 Thread John Coyle
I'm probably wrong, but in some of the shots of the buildings there are two 
very large hangars which remind me of those at RAF Cardington, in Bedfordshire, 
which was the base for the airship program in the 1920's and '30's.  On page 5 
there is a colour image taken from the air which shows the base and the hangars 
very well.
It was 53 years ago, of course, that I was there, and then only for two days - 
that's my excuse if I'm wrong!



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http://www.flickr.com/photos/49024304@N00/sets/72157608125792619/

This is a set of over 300 35mm, black and white negatives found in a basement 
of an “antique” mall in Wichita Falls, Texas.

Strips of 3 to 6 are in glassine sleeves bound in two books designed for the 
purpose of preserving negatives. Contact prints are taped to each sleeve 
designating the contents. The labels here are as shown in these notes.

The first three pages of each book is an index with identification of each 
strip of negative, most with notations of f-stop and shutter speed, filters and 
light conditions.

They were apparently taken in England.

Many of the shots are of military aircraft, some crashed. There are a few shots 
of London Sights and a few shots of personnel.

Though the camera man took careful notes on subject, lighting f-stop and 
shutter speed, there are no dates. There are a few shots of London mixed with 
shots of the base so it can be guessed that the photographer was stationed in 
the south of England.

Some air experts will recognize the planes and serial numbers and the base will 
eventually be identified, I’m sure.

To review all of these in a slightly faster method, there is a double slide 
show on the LOST GALLERY page.

I have added the three actual index pages as entered by the photographer in 
case I missed something.

All photographs are the property of Lost Gallery. Any of the photographs can be 
used on other web sites but a link back to the original here must be included
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Re: local boy does good

2013-06-28 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 26/6/13, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>he comes from the land down under

Poor Bill, when was he sent to Hell?

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Re: July PUG - Anyone Tempted?

2013-06-28 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 27/6/13, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:

>..so far, apparently not :-(>

If you'd like to create an 'other brands' section, I'd be happy to
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