date:20130729


what Brian said


On 7/29/2013 19:03, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting DagT :


http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
Pentax K-5, DA*16-50mm*31mm, 1/200s, f/14, ISO100,
Number 185 is also in place.



Great composition.  The rippled pattern on the water adds impact as well.




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Re: PESOs - 3 new ones with the K-5 and MANUAL lens

I got the Aperture ring permitted thingy taken care of..
For exposures I've been winging it and correcting by what I see on the
LCD screen..

Between you, Paul and Bob you solved the 28mm question... and I love
that lens...

back to the streets tomorrow :-)

On 7/29/2013 23:35, P.J. Alling wrote:

Your *ist-D was probably already set up when you got it. You have to go
into the Menu and find "Using Aperture Ring" and set it to permitted. I
believe that was the wording on the *ist-D and the Ds. Pentax didn't
change it for the K20D so I expect that it's the same for the K-5. The
K20D has that setting in the Custom Page of the Menu, but it would also
make a certain amount of sense for it to be in the in the Setup Page, so
if you don't find it in Custom, check the Setup section. I can't tell
you for sure where it would be because I'm still shooting with the K20F.

Noone else seems to like doing this, but with M and K lenses, (or for
that matter A, F, and FA lenses), you can do old fashioned Stop Down
metering kind of like using a Spotmatic. You set DOF preview to
Optical, then with the mode dial set to manual, and a lens off A,
holding in the DOF preview stops down the lens to taking aperture, and
turns on the meter, you can then adjust the aperture to get the proper
exposure. The K20D runs out of EV range in the meter pretty fast when
used that way, but then again, it has the same problem with the green
button too.

On 7/29/2013 10:24 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Thanks guys for the input on the manual lens stuff..

I've now told the camera it is a 50mm lens, (the Smc A)
but more importantly, I think the focus problem was the diopter
setting in the view finder.. I took off the eye cup and then was able
to change the diopter - and see better too. I have to do some more shots
to convince myself I can keep things sharp... quickly.. it was hard to
see the lines that you are supposed to make sharp. but I think I've
got it now. (doing it with my distance glasses on.)

Derby, re "Zone focusing" - is that the same thing as what I know as
"Hyper-focal distance?" setting it for shooting from the hip?

when I use the 50, I have to set the lens on A for it to work at all
The 28mm lens I have isn't an A series . It worked with an adaptor
on my Rebel... Nothing happens at all - Can't push the shutter, etc
..and window that tells you how to tell the camera what lens you have
doesn't appear. Too bad, I'd love to use that lens

ann

On 7/29/2013 17:41, Derby Chang wrote:

Love the first one. I wonder what their music is like.

Ann, have you tried zone focusing? Not as easy with a 50, but doable.

On 29/07/2013 10:18 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I went out this evening near dusk for these - it just started to rain.
I wanted to check out the K-5 with a manual lens... if only I could
focus faster I'd have had a lot more respectable shots..
But I like these three - 2 street shots, and one kitty.. (not Ashley

The lens was the smc Pentax-A 50mm f1.4 that I've had since the early
80's. It seems to me there is lots more light coming into the good
ole manual than the DA 18-55.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662636400_Bg5FRgD/Medium

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662602725_2cksxrx/Medium

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662619043_R3BZB3p/Medium

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PESO: King of Hot Air

>From the 2013 New Jersey Festival of Ballooning:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17479897
Comments are invited/

Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO - Here Comes the Sunny (D) (bike messenger content)

I love the look of joy!

Effective "work" portrait.
Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:13 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
 wrote:
> I'll  tell you about it in another post but I've been gone due to computer 
> woes. Still don't have one but I can now do the odd photo at work (if I don't 
> get caught). Was at a messenger race on the weekend and messenger/rapper 
> Sunny D made a conspicuous entrance as she often does:
>
>  http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/07/here-comes-sunny-d.html?m=1
>
> I may have over-sharpened. Loaded GIMP on my office computer and my monitors 
> are horrendous so it was hard to tell how much sharpening I applied. Let me 
> know what you think.
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> frank
>
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Re: PAW186 - Dive

Wonderful catch!

Dan Matyola
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On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:27 PM, DagT  wrote:
> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
> Pentax K-5, DA*16-50mm*31mm, 1/200s, f/14, ISO100,
> Number 185 is also in place.
>
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Re: PESOs - 3 new ones with the K-5 and MANUAL lens

Got it...
that worked well
thanks!
ann

On 7/29/2013 22:47, Paul Stenquist wrote:

You can use the 28mm on your K5. You have to find the menu function that allows
setting aperture and turn it on. Then shoot in manual, set the ap with the ring
and push the green button to get a meter read and a shutter speed.

Paul via phone

On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Thanks guys for the input on the manual lens stuff..

I've now told the camera it is a 50mm lens, (the Smc A)
but more importantly, I think the focus problem was the diopter setting in the
view finder.. I took off the eye cup and then was able to change the diopter -
and see better too. I have to do some more shots
to convince myself I can keep things sharp... quickly.. it was hard to see the
lines that you are supposed to make sharp. but I think I've got it now. (doing
it with my distance glasses on.)

Derby, re "Zone focusing" - is that the same thing as what I know as
"Hyper-focal distance?" setting it for shooting from the hip?

when I use the 50, I have to set the lens on A for it to work at all
The 28mm lens I have isn't an A series . It worked with an adaptor
on my Rebel... Nothing happens at all - Can't push the shutter, etc ..and
window that tells you how to tell the camera what lens you have
doesn't appear. Too bad, I'd love to use that lens

ann

On 7/29/2013 17:41, Derby Chang wrote:

Love the first one. I wonder what their music is like.

Ann, have you tried zone focusing? Not as easy with a 50, but doable.

On 29/07/2013 10:18 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

The lens was the smc Pentax-A 50mm f1.4 that I've had since the early
80's. It seems to me there is lots more light coming into the good
ole manual than the DA 18-55.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662636400_Bg5FRgD/Medium

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662602725_2cksxrx/Medium

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662619043_R3BZB3p/Medium

ann

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Re: PESOs - 3 new ones with the K-5 and MANUAL lens

On 7/29/2013 10:24 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Thanks guys for the input on the manual lens stuff..

Derby, re "Zone focusing" - is that the same thing as what I know as
"Hyper-focal distance?" setting it for shooting from the hip?

doesn't appear. Too bad, I'd love to use that lens

ann

On 7/29/2013 17:41, Derby Chang wrote:

Love the first one. I wonder what their music is like.

Ann, have you tried zone focusing? Not as easy with a 50, but doable.

On 29/07/2013 10:18 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

The lens was the smc Pentax-A 50mm f1.4 that I've had since the early
80's. It seems to me there is lots more light coming into the good
ole manual than the DA 18-55.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662636400_Bg5FRgD/Medium

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662602725_2cksxrx/Medium

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662619043_R3BZB3p/Medium

ann

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Re: PESOs - 3 new ones with the K-5 and MANUAL lens

2013-07-29 Thread Bob Sullivan

Ann,
Go thru the main menu of the camera.
(You don't need no stinkin directions.)
The 5th or 6th screen leads you to a long list of 25+ options.
Look at them, turning on or off the 25 different options.
The K-5 is currently set NOT TO WORK with lenses with an aperture ring.
CHANGE THAT!
Then your 28mm will work like Paul suggests.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> You can use the 28mm on your K5. You have to find the menu function that 
> allows setting aperture and turn it on. Then shoot in manual, set the ap with 
> the ring and push the green button to get a meter read and a shutter speed.
>
> Paul via phone
>
> On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>
>> Thanks guys for the input on the manual lens stuff..
>>
>> I've now told the camera it is a 50mm lens, (the Smc A)
>> but more importantly, I think the focus problem was the diopter setting in 
>> the view finder.. I took off the eye cup and then was able to change the 
>> diopter - and see better too.  I have to do some more shots
>> to convince myself I can keep things sharp... quickly.. it was hard to see 
>> the lines that you are supposed to make sharp.  but I think I've got it now. 
>> (doing it with my distance glasses on.)
>>
>> Derby, re "Zone focusing" - is that the same thing as what I know as
>> "Hyper-focal distance?" setting it for shooting from the hip?
>>
>> when I use the 50, I have to set the lens on A for it to work at all
>> The 28mm lens I have isn't an A series . It worked with an adaptor
>> on my Rebel... Nothing happens at all - Can't push the shutter, etc ..and  
>> window that tells you how to tell the camera what lens you have
>> doesn't appear.  Too bad, I'd love to use that lens
>>
>> ann
>>
>>
>> On 7/29/2013 17:41, Derby Chang wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Love the first one. I wonder what their music is like.
>>>
>>> Ann, have you tried zone focusing? Not as easy with a 50, but doable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29/07/2013 10:18 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 I went out this evening near dusk for these - it just started to rain.
 I wanted to check out the K-5 with a manual lens... if only I could
 focus faster I'd have had a lot more respectable shots..
 But I like these three - 2 street shots, and one kitty.. (not Ashley

 The lens was the smc Pentax-A 50mm f1.4 that I've had since the early
 80's.  It seems to me there is lots more light coming into the good
 ole manual than the DA 18-55.

 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662636400_Bg5FRgD/Medium


 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662602725_2cksxrx/Medium


 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662619043_R3BZB3p/Medium


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Re: PESO Weiner decay

The reason Der Wienerschnitzel specialized in Hotdogs rather than
Breaded Cutlets and German Noodles came about because of Vienna
Sausages. I believe they originated in the late 1890's, a particularly
strange delicacy when you think about it, found mostly in the North East
U.S. I suspect like the English Muffin, what ever they are based on
from Vienna would be unrecognizable to an American visiting Vienna, as
would the "Cocktail Wienie" be unrecognizable in it's Americanized form
to a Viennese. Heck it seems most Americans don't make the connection,
which is probably why Der Wienerschnitzel chain is falling on hard times.

You can still find them sold as Tinned Vienna Cocktail Frankfurters.

Now this is conjecture based on nothing more than the fact that oldsters
in my family refereed to Frankfurters as Wieners, and Dachshunds, Wiener
Dogs, (due to their elongated bodies), the terms Frankfurter, Wiener,
and Hotdog, became interchangeable at least in the North East sometime
early in the 20th Century.

That's part of why Anthony Wiener sending photos of that proud bit of
his anatomy seems so apropos.

It was, his destiny.

On 7/29/2013 6:18 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 08:02:06AM +1000, Derby Chang wrote:

Excellent New Topographics shot.

Thanks.

What did it use to be?

There is an American fast-food chain called Der Wienerschnitzel.
They were primarily drive throughs, with some outside seating,
but no dining room. They all had these marvelously tacky A-frame
buildings.

The chain has been on decline for quite some time, and the Santa Cruz
location was shut down a few years back.

Their food was primarily hot dogs. I have no idea why they chain
is called Wienershnitzel, since as we've discussed, wienershnitzel
has nothing to do with hot dogs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_dog

The word frankfurter comes from Frankfurt, Germany, where pork sausages similar to hot dogs
originated.[6] These sausages, Frankfurter Würstchen, were known since the 13th century and given
to the people on the event of imperial coronations, starting with the coronation of Maximilian II,
Holy Roman Emperor as King. Wiener refers to Vienna, Austria, whose German name is
"Wien", home to a sausage made of a mixture of pork and beef[7] (cf. Hamburger, whose
name also derives from a German-speaking city). Johann Georg Lahner, a 18th/19th century butcher
from the Franconian city of Coburg, is said to have brought the Frankfurter Würstchen to Vienna,
where he added beef to the mixture and simply called it Frankfurter.[8] Nowadays, in German
speaking countries, except Austria, hot dog sausages are called Wiener or Wiener Würstchen
(Würstchen means "little sausage"), in differentiation to the original pork only mixture
from Frankfurt. In Swiss German, it is called Wienerli, while in Austria the terms Frankfurter or
Frankfurter Würstel are used.

On 28/07/2013 9:01 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9381352525/in/set-72157634828608896/

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PESO - Here Comes the Sunny (D) (bike messenger content)

2013-07-29 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com

I'll  tell you about it in another post but I've been gone due to computer 
woes. Still don't have one but I can now do the odd photo at work (if I don't 
get caught). Was at a messenger race on the weekend and messenger/rapper Sunny 
D made a conspicuous entrance as she often does:

 http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2013/07/here-comes-sunny-d.html?m=1

I may have over-sharpened. Loaded GIMP on my office computer and my monitors 
are horrendous so it was hard to tell how much sharpening I applied. Let me 
know what you think.

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

Cheers,
frank 

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spontaneity." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Re: PESOs - 3 new ones with the K-5 and MANUAL lens

2013-07-29 Thread Paul Stenquist

You can use the 28mm on your K5. You have to find the menu function that allows 
setting aperture and turn it on. Then shoot in manual, set the ap with the ring 
and push the green button to get a meter read and a shutter speed.

Paul via phone

On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> Thanks guys for the input on the manual lens stuff..
> 
> I've now told the camera it is a 50mm lens, (the Smc A)
> but more importantly, I think the focus problem was the diopter setting in 
> the view finder.. I took off the eye cup and then was able to change the 
> diopter - and see better too.  I have to do some more shots
> to convince myself I can keep things sharp... quickly.. it was hard to see 
> the lines that you are supposed to make sharp.  but I think I've got it now. 
> (doing it with my distance glasses on.)
> 
> Derby, re "Zone focusing" - is that the same thing as what I know as
> "Hyper-focal distance?" setting it for shooting from the hip?
> 
> when I use the 50, I have to set the lens on A for it to work at all
> The 28mm lens I have isn't an A series . It worked with an adaptor
> on my Rebel... Nothing happens at all - Can't push the shutter, etc ..and  
> window that tells you how to tell the camera what lens you have
> doesn't appear.  Too bad, I'd love to use that lens
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> On 7/29/2013 17:41, Derby Chang wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Love the first one. I wonder what their music is like.
>> 
>> Ann, have you tried zone focusing? Not as easy with a 50, but doable.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 29/07/2013 10:18 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
>>> I went out this evening near dusk for these - it just started to rain.
>>> I wanted to check out the K-5 with a manual lens... if only I could
>>> focus faster I'd have had a lot more respectable shots..
>>> But I like these three - 2 street shots, and one kitty.. (not Ashley
>>> 
>>> The lens was the smc Pentax-A 50mm f1.4 that I've had since the early
>>> 80's.  It seems to me there is lots more light coming into the good
>>> ole manual than the DA 18-55.
>>> 
>>> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662636400_Bg5FRgD/Medium
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662602725_2cksxrx/Medium
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662619043_R3BZB3p/Medium
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ann
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Re: PESOs - 3 new ones with the K-5 and MANUAL lens

Thanks guys for the input on the manual lens stuff..

I've now told the camera it is a 50mm lens, (the Smc A)
but more importantly, I think the focus problem was the diopter setting
in the view finder.. I took off the eye cup and then was able to change
the diopter - and see better too. I have to do some more shots
to convince myself I can keep things sharp... quickly.. it was hard to
see the lines that you are supposed to make sharp. but I think I've got
it now. (doing it with my distance glasses on.)

Derby, re "Zone focusing" - is that the same thing as what I know as
"Hyper-focal distance?" setting it for shooting from the hip?

doesn't appear. Too bad, I'd love to use that lens

ann

On 7/29/2013 17:41, Derby Chang wrote:

Love the first one. I wonder what their music is like.

Ann, have you tried zone focusing? Not as easy with a 50, but doable.

On 29/07/2013 10:18 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

The lens was the smc Pentax-A 50mm f1.4 that I've had since the early
80's. It seems to me there is lots more light coming into the good
ole manual than the DA 18-55.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662636400_Bg5FRgD/Medium

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662602725_2cksxrx/Medium

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662619043_R3BZB3p/Medium

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Re: PESO Weiner decay

It's because the meat in hot-dogs are known as wieners. Just ignore the
"schnitzel".

According to Wikipedia:

Wiener is German for Viennese, but may also refer to:

A "Polish sausage" or "wenar"
A German sausage named after Vienna (called Frankfurter in Austria)
A hot dog

... and they're called a Wiener in Frankfurt. Go figure.

The guy who founded the chain died in April this year:

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/16/local/la-me-john-galardi-20130416

On 7/29/2013 6:18 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 08:02:06AM +1000, Derby Chang wrote:

Excellent New Topographics shot.

Thanks.

What did it use to be?

The chain has been on decline for quite some time, and the Santa Cruz
location was shut down a few years back.

Their food was primarily hot dogs. I have no idea why they chain
is called Wienershnitzel, since as we've discussed, wienershnitzel
has nothing to do with hot dogs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_dog

a the terms Frankfurter or Frankfurter Würstel are used.

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Re: PESOs - delightful details


Iconic.

I was there for a few hours Paul, glad the weather held off. My fav was the 
little electric car the Baker.


Photo to follow.

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- Original Message - 
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Subject: PESOs - delightful details


Shot the Concours d'Elégance of America today for The Times. Fabulous show, 
arguably among the world's top ten.


A couple of details of one of my personal favorites: a rose and white 1956 
Packard Caribbean. I'm a sucker for the fifties stuff. But just look at the 
typography on the Caribbean badging. Packard had style. (The Mercedes 540Kk, 
the 1935 Alfa 8C and the Talbot Lago 150C Roadster tugged at my heartstrings 
as well -- along with hundreds of others.) More pics after my piece is 
published.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17477946&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17477945&size=lg


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Re: 'Ol 6813 ,for the RR people here

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Gerrit Visser  wrote:
> It's terrible how museum designers dont tkae photographer's needs into
> account.

My thoughts aswell

Dave
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> Lovely bit of history there. I wonder if that is the locomotive that used to
> keep me awake in 1953 when we were living 1 block from the tracks in
> Lakeview :-)
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> Subject: 'Ol 6813 ,for the RR people here
>
> From the round house museum, 'ol CNR engine 6813. I have film B&W shots of
> this when it was at the CNE grounds.
> Tough to get ashot with the floating fence around it
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17479090
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> A link ot he PDF of its history below.
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Re: 'Ol 6813 ,for the RR people here

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> One block? Pfft. :-)  When L and I lived on Nesbitt Drive in the 80's
> the two tracks of the Summerhill line were right at the end of our
> backyard. Our property abutted CN/CP's property. We were often awoken
> at 2 AM with freight car shunting. Our dog would find (and eat!) worn
> out leather gloves discarded by the crews. We put up with that for six
> years ...

You're lucky to have gloves to eat, back in my day..

Dave
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Gerrit Visser  wrote:
>> It's terrible how museum designers dont tkae photographer's needs into
>> account.
>>
>> Lovely bit of history there. I wonder if that is the locomotive that used to
>> keep me awake in 1953 when we were living 1 block from the tracks in
>> Lakeview :-)
>>
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>> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 1:13 PM
>> To: Pentax Discuss; Petch Dianne; Barbara Brooks
>> Subject: 'Ol 6813 ,for the RR people here
>>
>> From the round house museum, 'ol CNR engine 6813. I have film B&W shots of
>> this when it was at the CNE grounds.
>> Tough to get ashot with the floating fence around it
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17479090
>>
>>
>> A link ot he PDF of its history below.
>>
>> http://www.trha.ca/resources/090918.6213.COMMEMORATIVE.eBook.pdf
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RE: Article on Leica cameras on BBC online

2013-07-29 Thread John Coyle

It's very common, Doug - I've used it myself a lot!

John Coyle
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On 2013-07-29 7:03, Walt wrote:

> I've never heard ["much of a muchness"] before. Is that a common 
> British colloquialism?

I've heard that one, but it's been years.  I've only ever heard it from a Brit 
or in a book authored
by a Brit.  I don't know how common it is, though.  The web site 
www.phrases.org.uk claims that it's
never really been common (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/251550.html).

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Re: GESO Car parts


With the Pinto hatchback, there was apparently a small, but significant
chance that in a rear end collision the filler neck could be driven into
the gas tank rupturing it and spilling fuel.


The issue was actually a sharp edge (on a machining transfer point) on the 
rear axle differential that could act as a can opener should the fuel tank 
be forced sufficiently into the rear differential.



I think the station wagon model used a completely different gas tank,


The station wagon fuel filler was on the rear quarter panel.

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Subject: Re: GESO Car parts



The hatchback Pinto had the gas filler in the back below the bumper. I
can't remember if it had the gas cap under a flip down license plate
holder or not. I had another car that did that, and it was a PITA. You
had to hold the license plate holder down with one hand while you held
the pump nozzle with the other. When they first went to self-serve gas
they took the little latching gadget off the nozzles so you had to
squeeze the lever the whole time you were pumping gas.

With the Pinto hatchback, there was apparently a small, but significant
chance that in a rear end collision the filler neck could be driven into
the gas tank rupturing it and spilling fuel.

Some engineer at Ford told the company that the problem could be
prevented by adding a device during manufacture that would increase the
cost by about $1.50 per vehicle. He was over-ruled by the bean counters
at Ford because it would add significantly to the total cost over the
millions of Pintos Ford expected build.

The upshot was that the amount they saved by leaving the part off was a
lot less than they ended up settling the lawsuits for, PLUS they had to
recall the Pinto and fit the part anyway, where it cost Ford a whole lot
more than $1.50 per vehicle.

Orders of magnitude more as it were.

I think the station wagon model used a completely different gas tank,
but in any case the design didn't leave room for the filler neck to be
at the back end of the vehicle, so they put it on the left rear fender,
either in front of the tire arch opening or above it where it wouldn't
be vulnerable in a rear end collision.


On 7/29/2013 2:41 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:


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- Original Message - From: "Bob W" 
Subject: Re: GESO Car parts



the rear end collision broken filler neck problem.




Oh, you mean the one where the driver left the gas tank cap off
after filling the tank?



Is that why the other one didn't survive the honeymoon?

On 29 Jul 2013, at 16:42, John  wrote:


The little station wagon was a pretty good car; not subject to
the rear end collision broken filler neck problem.

The only real problem I had with mine was the automatic
transmission was the same unit Ford used for their larger
vehicles & it sucked a lot of power out of the vehicle.

If it had been a stick shift, I might still have it running
today.

On 7/29/2013 11:34 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:

I don't know about "warm" memories of a Pinto. My brother had
one when he got married & it did not survive the honeymoon.
Glad you enjoyed the pics thanks for commenting.

pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 1 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:01:27 -0400 From:
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Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah,
those were the days.

Good angles and framing.

Gerrit

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Friday, July 26, 2013 5:57 PM To:pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO
Car parts

I meant to post this all day & now must rush. This gallery
is for car nuts or just anyone who likes color & design.
Taken with K 5 & 70 mm prime for the most part plus a few
strays with 35mm. Enjoy or critique or both.

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR
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Re: PAW186 - Dive


Quoting DagT :


http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
Pentax K-5, DA*16-50mm*31mm, 1/200s, f/14, ISO100,
Number 185 is also in place.



Great composition.  The rippled pattern on the water adds impact as well.


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Re: PESO - Another Restored Canyon Photo


Quoting George Sinos :


That's me hanging out on a ledge in 1975.  My buddy shot the photo
with my camera, then we changed places and I returned the favor.



This is another photo scanned from an old Fuji slide.  It didn't turn
out to bad.  The colors were very faded but using the Lightroom
eyedropper on one of the clouds did a very reasonable job of cleaning
up the color.



Wish I'd known about that ledge when I was at the Canyon in May,  
although the way the wind was blowing, I probably would have ended up  
at the bottom.


Good restoration work on the slide.



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Re: Article on Leica cameras on BBC online



Quoting Bruce Walker :

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Brian Walters  
 wrote:

Quoting Bob W :


On 29 Jul 2013, at 13:58, Walt  wrote:


On 7/29/2013 7:44 AM, Doug Franklin wrote:


On 2013-07-29 7:03, Walt wrote:


I've never heard ["much of a muchness"] before. Is that a common
British colloquialism?


I've heard that one, but it's been years.  I've only ever heard it from
a Brit or in a book authored by a Brit.  I don't know how common it is,
though.  The web site www.phrases.org.uk claims that it's never  
really been

common (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/251550.html).


I would say it's really quite a common phrase.


Pretty common downunder as well, although possibly less so now than with my
parent's generation.


The deuce you say!



Too right, cobber!


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Re: PESOs - 3 new ones with the K-5 and MANUAL lens


Quoting Ann Sanfedele :


Thanks Don and Bruce..

On 7/29/2013 12:02, Don Guthrie wrote:

Great subject choice as always (even the cat). I looked at the exif and
it appears that you didn't tell the K-5 the focal length of your manual
lens  & that might make a difference to the SR.



I finally figured that out... however... the lens I put on is a 50mm  
physically, but that means on a digital camera what you see is  
something like , um what? 80?


You need to tell the camera the actual focal length, not the 35 mm equivalent.



Now - the 50mm I used has an A on the barrel - that is, you can set  
it on A.  The 28mm I have does not, and when I put THAT on the K-5  
even with M set on both focus and mode nothing happened.  Couldnt  
use it on the IstD either.


Anyone know if it is out of the question ?  I couldnt find anything  
in the manual "attach a proper lens" didn't help much :-)



Not quite sure what you mean, but do you have "Using Aperture Ring" in  
Custom Menu No 27 set to "Permitted"?



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Re: Article on Leica cameras on BBC online

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> Quoting Bob W :
>
>> On 29 Jul 2013, at 13:58, Walt  wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/29/2013 7:44 AM, Doug Franklin wrote:

 On 2013-07-29 7:03, Walt wrote:

> I've never heard ["much of a muchness"] before. Is that a common
> British colloquialism?

 I've heard that one, but it's been years.  I've only ever heard it from
 a Brit or in a book authored by a Brit.  I don't know how common it is,
 though.  The web site www.phrases.org.uk claims that it's never really been
 common (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/251550.html).
>>
>> I would say it's really quite a common phrase.
>
> Pretty common downunder as well, although possibly less so now than with my
> parent's generation.

The deuce you say!

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Re: Article on Leica cameras on BBC online


Quoting Bob W :


On 29 Jul 2013, at 13:58, Walt  wrote:


On 7/29/2013 7:44 AM, Doug Franklin wrote:

On 2013-07-29 7:03, Walt wrote:


I've never heard ["much of a muchness"] before. Is that a common British
colloquialism?


I've heard that one, but it's been years.  I've only ever heard it  
from a Brit or in a book authored by a Brit.  I don't know how  
common it is, though.  The web site www.phrases.org.uk claims that  
it's never really been common  
(http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/251550.html).


I would say it's really quite a common phrase.



Pretty common downunder as well, although possibly less so now than  
with my parent's generation.



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G'day all

Time (and the PUG) marches on...

There's not much more time to submit for the August theme - "Signs of  
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Re: PESO Weiner decay

2013-07-29 Thread Larry Colen

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 08:02:06AM +1000, Derby Chang wrote:
> 
> Excellent New Topographics shot.

Thanks.

> 
> What did it use to be?

There is an American fast-food chain called Der Wienerschnitzel.  
They were primarily drive throughs, with some outside seating,
but no dining room.  They all had these marvelously tacky A-frame
buildings. 

The chain has been on decline for quite some time, and the Santa Cruz
location was shut down a few years back. 

Their food was primarily hot dogs. I have no idea why they chain
is called Wienershnitzel, since as we've discussed, wienershnitzel
has nothing to do with hot dogs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_dog

The word frankfurter comes from Frankfurt, Germany, where pork sausages similar 
to hot dogs originated.[6] These sausages, Frankfurter Würstchen, were known 
since the 13th century and given to the people on the event of imperial 
coronations, starting with the coronation of Maximilian II, Holy Roman Emperor 
as King. Wiener refers to Vienna, Austria, whose German name is "Wien", home to 
a sausage made of a mixture of pork and beef[7] (cf. Hamburger, whose name also 
derives from a German-speaking city). Johann Georg Lahner, a 18th/19th century 
butcher from the Franconian city of Coburg, is said to have brought the 
Frankfurter Würstchen to Vienna, where he added beef to the mixture and simply 
called it Frankfurter.[8] Nowadays, in German speaking countries, except 
Austria, hot dog sausages are called Wiener or Wiener Würstchen (Würstchen 
means "little sausage"), in differentiation to the original pork only mixture 
from Frankfurt. In Swiss German, it is called Wienerli, while in Austria the 
terms Frankfurter or Frankfurter Würstel are used.

> 
> 
> 
> On 28/07/2013 9:01 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9381352525/in/set-72157634828608896/
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Re: PESO Weiner decay



Excellent New Topographics shot.

What did it use to be?



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Re: PAW186 - Dive

Beautifully framed and wonderful simplicity.

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:27 PM, DagT  wrote:
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> Pentax K-5, DA*16-50mm*31mm, 1/200s, f/14, ISO100,
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RE: 'Ol 6813 ,for the RR people here

You should have demanded that they move the railways tracks. People do that
all the time with airports, even Billy Bishop Airport on the islands :-). I
would have too except we moved to Weston in time for Hurricane Hazel and the
switch from 25 cycle to 60.

Gerrit


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One block? Pfft. :-)  When L and I lived on Nesbitt Drive in the 80's the
two tracks of the Summerhill line were right at the end of our backyard. Our
property abutted CN/CP's property. We were often awoken at 2 AM with freight
car shunting. Our dog would find (and eat!) worn out leather gloves
discarded by the crews. We put up with that for six years ...

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Gerrit Visser  wrote:
> It's terrible how museum designers dont tkae photographer's needs into 
> account.
>
> Lovely bit of history there. I wonder if that is the locomotive that 
> used to keep me awake in 1953 when we were living 1 block from the 
> tracks in Lakeview :-)
>
> Gerrit
>
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David J Brooks
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 1:13 PM
> To: Pentax Discuss; Petch Dianne; Barbara Brooks
> Subject: 'Ol 6813 ,for the RR people here
>
> From the round house museum, 'ol CNR engine 6813. I have film B&W 
> shots of this when it was at the CNE grounds.
> Tough to get ashot with the floating fence around it
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17479090
>
>
> A link ot he PDF of its history below.
>
> http://www.trha.ca/resources/090918.6213.COMMEMORATIVE.eBook.pdf
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Totally agree, Brian. I'm as guilty as anyone else, expanding my carbon 
footprint ordering stuff from Amazon But whenever I drop into 
Kinokuniya, I always see some book that I must have.


thanks for looking



Ah.  Thanks for that - I'll check those out when next in the city.  
Kinokuniya must go close to being the best bookshop in Sydney.  The 
coffee's not bad, either...






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Re: 'Ol 6813 ,for the RR people here

One block? Pfft. :-)  When L and I lived on Nesbitt Drive in the 80's
the two tracks of the Summerhill line were right at the end of our
backyard. Our property abutted CN/CP's property. We were often awoken
at 2 AM with freight car shunting. Our dog would find (and eat!) worn
out leather gloves discarded by the crews. We put up with that for six
years ...

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Gerrit Visser  wrote:
> It's terrible how museum designers dont tkae photographer's needs into
> account.
>
> Lovely bit of history there. I wonder if that is the locomotive that used to
> keep me awake in 1953 when we were living 1 block from the tracks in
> Lakeview :-)
>
> Gerrit
>
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> Subject: 'Ol 6813 ,for the RR people here
>
> From the round house museum, 'ol CNR engine 6813. I have film B&W shots of
> this when it was at the CNE grounds.
> Tough to get ashot with the floating fence around it
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17479090
>
>
> A link ot he PDF of its history below.
>
> http://www.trha.ca/resources/090918.6213.COMMEMORATIVE.eBook.pdf
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RE: PAW186 - Dive

Great timing, and colours.

Gerrit

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http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
Pentax K-5, DA*16-50mm*31mm, 1/200s, f/14, ISO100, Number 185 is also in
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Re: PESOs - 3 new ones with the K-5 and MANUAL lens



On an APS-C format a 50mm lens is a short telephoto, (basically 
portrait, roughly the same angle of view as a 75mm lens would be on 35mm 
film), length lens.  It's still a 50mm lens however.



On 7/29/2013 12:21 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Thanks Don and Bruce..

On 7/29/2013 12:02, Don Guthrie wrote:

Great subject choice as always (even the cat). I looked at the exif and
it appears that you didn't tell the K-5 the focal length of your manual
lens  & that might make a difference to the SR.



I finally figured that out... however... the lens I put on is a 50mm 
physically, but that means on a digital camera what you see is 
something like , um what? 80?


I had a lot of trouble keeping things sharp -

Now - the 50mm I used has an A on the barrel - that is, you can set it 
on A.  The 28mm I have does not, and when I put THAT on the K-5 even 
with M set on both focus and mode nothing happened. Couldnt use it on 
the IstD either..


Anyone know if it is out of the question ?  I couldnt find anything in 
the manual "attach a proper lens" didn't help much :-)


It was sheer luck, it appears, that I had anything in focus at all

ann




I have not used many manual focus lenses on my K-5. For me they work
better on K-1 because it allows focus peaking but then I still have my
cataracts.


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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:18:03 -0400
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Subject: PESOs - 3 new ones with the K-5 and MANUAL lens
Message-ID:<51f5b4bb.5090...@nyc.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I went out this evening near dusk for these - it just started to rain.
I wanted to check out the K-5 with a manual lens... if only I could
focus faster I'd have had a lot more respectable shots..
But I like these three - 2 street shots, and one kitty.. (not Ashley

The lens was the smc Pentax-A 50mm f1.4 that I've had since the early
80's.  It seems to me there is lots more light coming into the good ole
manual than the DA 18-55.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662636400_Bg5FRgD/Medium 




http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662602725_2cksxrx/Medium 




http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662619043_R3BZB3p/Medium 




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Love the first one. I wonder what their music is like.

Ann, have you tried zone focusing? Not as easy with a 50, but doable.



On 29/07/2013 10:18 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I went out this evening near dusk for these - it just started to rain. 
I wanted to check out the K-5 with a manual lens... if only I could 
focus faster I'd have had a lot more respectable shots..

But I like these three - 2 street shots, and one kitty.. (not Ashley

The lens was the smc Pentax-A 50mm f1.4 that I've had since the early 
80's.  It seems to me there is lots more light coming into the good 
ole manual than the DA 18-55.


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662636400_Bg5FRgD/Medium 



http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662602725_2cksxrx/Medium 



http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662619043_R3BZB3p/Medium 



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Re: GESOs - two of 'em



Thanks Bruce,

The Q is surprisingly nimble focusing - there is not much glass to move 
I suppose. My only caution is occasionally, it can be slow adjusting 
exposure.


As for the Sigma 30, you are right. It isn't small, the trick is to look 
like a dufus tourist to be ignored. Not my favourite lens, but its good 
to give it exercise once in a while.




On 29/07/2013 8:36 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Intriguing and fun shots as always, Derby. Markets #4 attracts me
especially as something quite unusual.

Do you find the Q responsive enough for streeties? And don't you find
the K-5 with that enormous Sigma beast on it rather intimidating
looking or attention-getting for doing street? Must be the Derby Cloak
of Invisibility working for you. :-)


On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Derby Chang  wrote:

Two on-topic GESOs for a change.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/07/markets/index.html

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/07/;%29OX/index.html

I also notice the wonderland bookshop kinokuniya now has a separate shelf
for Australian photography monographs, including some rather hard to obtain
self-published tomes. Kudos to the bookshop's taste.

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PAW186 - Dive

2013-07-29 Thread DagT

http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
Pentax K-5, DA*16-50mm*31mm, 1/200s, f/14, ISO100, 
Number 185 is also in place.

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RE: GESO Car parts

It would have been great except the first year they used no primer. The
vehicle recycled itself in less than 5 years from new. My dad's was 1 year
later and is possibly still around. Last US designed/built car I bought.

OTOH it had a larger carrying capacity than my father-in-laws full size Chev
station wagon, width wise at least.

Gerrit

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Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 11:42 AM
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The little station wagon was a pretty good car; not subject to the rear end
collision broken filler neck problem.

The only real problem I had with mine was the automatic transmission was the
same unit Ford used for their larger vehicles & it sucked a lot of power out
of the vehicle.

If it had been a stick shift, I might still have it running today.

On 7/29/2013 11:34 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:
> I don't know about "warm" memories of a Pinto. My brother had one when 
> he got married & it did not survive the honeymoon. Glad you enjoyed 
> the pics thanks for commenting.
>
> pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
>> Message: 1 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:01:27 -0400 From: "Gerrit 
>> Visser" To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail 
>> List'" Subject: RE: GESO Car parts Message-ID:
>> <002e01ce8b0c$76b1df40$64159dc0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; 
>> charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah, those were 
>> the days.
>>
>> Good angles and framing.
>>
>> Gerrit
>>
>> -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] 
>> On Behalf Of Don Guthrie Sent:
>> Friday, July 26, 2013 5:57 PM To:pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO Car 
>> parts
>>
>> I meant to post this all day & now must rush. This gallery is for car 
>> nuts or just anyone who likes color & design. Taken with K 5 &
>> 70 mm prime for the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or 
>> critique or both.
>>
>> http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR
>>
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RE: PESO - Another Restored Canyon Photo

The result definitely has a slide film look about it.

Gerrit

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That's me hanging out on a ledge in 1975.  My buddy shot the photo with my
camera, then we changed places and I returned the favor.

This is another photo scanned from an old Fuji slide.  It didn't turn out to
bad.  The colors were very faded but using the Lightroom eyedropper on one
of the clouds did a very reasonable job of cleaning up the color.

gs

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RE: 'Ol 6813 ,for the RR people here

It's terrible how museum designers dont tkae photographer's needs into
account.

Lovely bit of history there. I wonder if that is the locomotive that used to
keep me awake in 1953 when we were living 1 block from the tracks in
Lakeview :-)

Gerrit

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Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 1:13 PM
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Subject: 'Ol 6813 ,for the RR people here

>From the round house museum, 'ol CNR engine 6813. I have film B&W shots of
this when it was at the CNE grounds.
Tough to get ashot with the floating fence around it

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17479090


A link ot he PDF of its history below.

http://www.trha.ca/resources/090918.6213.COMMEMORATIVE.eBook.pdf

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Re: GESO Car parts


The hatchback Pinto had the gas filler in the back below the bumper. I
can't remember if it had the gas cap under a flip down license plate
holder or not. I had another car that did that, and it was a PITA. You
had to hold the license plate holder down with one hand while you held
the pump nozzle with the other. When they first went to self-serve gas
they took the little latching gadget off the nozzles so you had to
squeeze the lever the whole time you were pumping gas.

With the Pinto hatchback, there was apparently a small, but significant
chance that in a rear end collision the filler neck could be driven into
the gas tank rupturing it and spilling fuel.

Some engineer at Ford told the company that the problem could be
prevented by adding a device during manufacture that would increase the
cost by about $1.50 per vehicle. He was over-ruled by the bean counters
at Ford because it would add significantly to the total cost over the
millions of Pintos Ford expected build.

The upshot was that the amount they saved by leaving the part off was a
lot less than they ended up settling the lawsuits for, PLUS they had to
recall the Pinto and fit the part anyway, where it cost Ford a whole lot
more than $1.50 per vehicle.

Orders of magnitude more as it were.

I think the station wagon model used a completely different gas tank,
but in any case the design didn't leave room for the filler neck to be
at the back end of the vehicle, so they put it on the left rear fender,
either in front of the tire arch opening or above it where it wouldn't
be vulnerable in a rear end collision.


On 7/29/2013 2:41 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:


Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Bob W" 
Subject: Re: GESO Car parts



the rear end collision broken filler neck problem.




Oh, you mean the one where the driver left the gas tank cap off
after filling the tank?



Is that why the other one didn't survive the honeymoon?

On 29 Jul 2013, at 16:42, John  wrote:


The little station wagon was a pretty good car; not subject to
the rear end collision broken filler neck problem.

The only real problem I had with mine was the automatic
transmission was the same unit Ford used for their larger
vehicles & it sucked a lot of power out of the vehicle.

If it had been a stick shift, I might still have it running
today.

On 7/29/2013 11:34 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:

I don't know about "warm" memories of a Pinto. My brother had
one when he got married & it did not survive the honeymoon.
Glad you enjoyed the pics thanks for commenting.

pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 1 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:01:27 -0400 From:
"Gerrit Visser" To: "'Pentax-Discuss
Mail List'" Subject: RE: GESO Car parts
Message-ID: <002e01ce8b0c$76b1df40$64159dc0$@com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah,
those were the days.

Good angles and framing.

Gerrit

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[mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Don Guthrie Sent:
Friday, July 26, 2013 5:57 PM To:pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO
Car parts

I meant to post this all day & now must rush. This gallery
is for car nuts or just anyone who likes color & design.
Taken with K 5 & 70 mm prime for the most part plus a few
strays with 35mm. Enjoy or critique or both.

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR





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Re: OT: Anyone here built a hackintosh?


On 7/29/2013 1:08 PM, steve harley wrote:

on 2013-07-29 9:36 John wrote

And in truth, I'm not even sure software updates will be that much of a
problem for me.


would be funny if your hackintosh were hacked ;?>



I got to thinking about a hackintosh because some software I'm
interested in doesn't come in a Windoze version. But, it's not software
I'd feel the need to continually upgrade to the latest version. Install
it once, and I'm done with the need to upgrade.


it was the OS updates that were trouble; but if you never use the
internet with the OS, it's pretty safe without updates




That's the kind of information I want to think through before starting
the project.

The last computer I built is the one I'm currently using for Photoshop.
I spent almost two years planning before I even started accumulating
parts. I gathered parts for about 3 months (to spread out the cost,
something I won't need to do as much now that I've finished school &
paid off my car payments). Spent a day assembling it & about a week
getting the software I wanted installed; checking everything out to make
sure it was all working like I wanted.

The only thing that system does on the internet is the software updates
for Windoze7 & Adobe, with the occasional search for how to do something
in Photoshop.

What I'm thinking about the hackintosh for is a music workstation -
electronic instrument - recording platform. Anything I bring down from
the internet for it will be scanned & vetted on this system before going
over to the workstation on CD/memory stick. At this stage of my
planing, I'm not even thinking of connecting it to my home network.


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Re: OT Sayings 2.0

Sorry, I grabbed the wrong (Tumblr private) link. Try this ...

http://thisisnthappiness.com/image/56796942993


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> wants me to log in first
>
> On 7/29/2013 2:37 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> http://www.tumblr.com/dashboard/4/56799251337
>>
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Re: OT: Anyone here built a hackintosh?


On 7/29/2013 12:55 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:36 , John  wrote:


Half the fun is rounding up the parts, putting them all together &
having the damn thing actually work when you finally shoot the power to it.

The software update thingy could be a problem, although I don't think
Apple's position regarding home-brewed computers running Mac OS is
going to be tenable in the long run.

And in truth, I'm not even sure software updates will be that much of a
problem for me.



Have you looked at this guide?

http://www.macbreaker.com/2012/07/mountain-lion-virtualbox.html

Looks like it might get you going with a minimum of fuss.

  -Charles


Yeah, that's a virtual Mac running on a Windoze box. If I do this I'm
going all in. There won't be any Windoze installed on the box.

I could probably find a $400 Windoze8 box at TigerDirect & just blow off
the pre-load, but I really am interested in doing it myself.

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Re: OT Sayings 2.0

2013-07-29 Thread Paul Sorenson


wants me to log in first

On 7/29/2013 2:37 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

http://www.tumblr.com/dashboard/4/56799251337



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Re:RE: GESO Car parts

Hey the car failed he didn't. I knew I should have rephrased that before 
I sent it to this group.


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Message: 9 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:15:19 -0400 From: "P.J. Alling"
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<51f6a327.60...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1;
format=flowed My god man, that's the first time I've heard of doing that
destroying the car. Your brother must be very proud. On 7/29/2013 11:34
AM, Don Guthrie wrote:

>I don't know about "warm" memories of a Pinto. My brother had one when
>he got married & it did not survive the honeymoon. Glad you enjoyed
>the pics thanks for commenting.
>
>pdml-requ...@pdml.net  wrote:

>>Message: 1
>>Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:01:27 -0400
>>From: "Gerrit Visser"
>>To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'"
>>Subject: RE: GESO Car parts
>>Message-ID: <002e01ce8b0c$76b1df40$64159dc0$@com>
>>Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah, those were the
>>days.
>>
>>Good angles and framing.
>>
>>Gerrit
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Don Guthrie
>>Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 5:57 PM
>>To:pdml@pdml.net
>>Subject: GESO Car parts
>>
>>I meant to post this all day & now must rush. This gallery is for car
>>nuts
>>or just anyone who likes color & design. Taken with K 5 & 70 mm prime
>>for
>>the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or critique or both.
>>
>>http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR
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Re: Peso Me and 'ol 4803

Cool. CN is what come through my town but they get real uptight if you 
climb on one in the wild.

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:05:27 -0400
From: David J Brooks
To: Pentax Discuss, Petch Dianne
, Barbara Brooks
Subject: Peso Me and 'ol 4803
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Liz and I went down to our first live baseball game in quite a while
Sunday. There is a bit of a museum dedicated to the old trains , round
about at the Steam Whistle brewery across from the Rogers Centre, were
the Jays played Houston.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17479074

My first time on an engine.:-)

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Re: PESOs - 3 new ones with the K-5 and MANUAL lens

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Message: 2
Ann I believe you should set it to 50 for 50mm the software will do the 
math. For a zoom try to use the middle or the focal length you expect to 
use. Also when you have it focus by hand, it will give you the in-focus 
indicator even on a manual lens. Sort of like one of those eye tests 
they give you at the optometrist.

If the lens is an "A" you can use the k-5 dial to change the aperture, 
if not you have to set the lens aperture by hand on the lens. When I use 
this type of lens I put the camera in aperture priority and get pretty 
good exposures.

I don't know about the 28mm. I have one somewhere but my K-5 is at home.

Focusing manual lens takes some practice for sure; the viewfinder on 
digital was not made for focusing. I was comparing two manual 135's 
yesterday and seem to under-focus mostly. But the old glass does have a 
look to it (color contrast?).

Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:21:59 -0400
From: Ann Sanfedele
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESOs - 3 new ones with the K-5 and MANUAL lens
Message-ID:<51f696a7.3010...@nyc.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Thanks Don and Bruce..

On 7/29/2013 12:02, Don Guthrie wrote:

>Great subject choice as always (even the cat). I looked at the exif and
>it appears that you didn't tell the K-5 the focal length of your manual
>lens  & that might make a difference to the SR.

I finally figured that out... however... the lens I put on is a 50mm
physically, but that means on a digital camera what you see is something
like , um what? 80?

I had a lot of trouble keeping things sharp -

Now - the 50mm I used has an A on the barrel - that is, you can set it
on A.  The 28mm I have does not, and when I put THAT on the K-5 even
with M set on both focus and mode nothing happened.  Couldnt use it on
the IstD either..

Anyone know if it is out of the question ?  I couldnt find anything in
the manual "attach a proper lens" didn't help much:-)

It was sheer luck, it appears, that I had anything in focus at all

ann

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Re: PESO - Another Restored Canyon Photo

I understand why you would take this photo but why you would want to be 
the subject dangling your legs over the canyon... well you were young. 
Great restoration though.



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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:57:48 -0500
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That's me hanging out on a ledge in 1975.  My buddy shot the photo
with my camera, then we changed places and I returned the favor.



This is another photo scanned from an old Fuji slide.  It didn't turn
out to bad.  The colors were very faded but using the Lightroom
eyedropper on one of the clouds did a very reasonable job of cleaning
up the color.

gs

George Sinos

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Re: GESO Car parts

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W" 

Subject: Re: GESO Car parts

 the rear
end collision broken filler neck problem.

Oh, you mean the one where the driver left the gas tank cap off after 
filling the tank?

Is that why the other one didn't survive the honeymoon?

On 29 Jul 2013, at 16:42, John  wrote:

The little station wagon was a pretty good car; not subject to the rear
end collision broken filler neck problem.

The only real problem I had with mine was the automatic transmission was
the same unit Ford used for their larger vehicles & it sucked a lot of
power out of the vehicle.

If it had been a stick shift, I might still have it running today.

On 7/29/2013 11:34 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:

I don't know about "warm" memories of a Pinto. My brother had one
when he got married & it did not survive the honeymoon. Glad you
enjoyed the pics thanks for commenting.

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Message: 1 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:01:27 -0400 From: "Gerrit
Visser" To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail
List'" Subject: RE: GESO Car parts Message-ID:
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charset="us-ascii"

Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah, those
were the days.

Good angles and framing.

Gerrit

-Original Message- From: PDML
[mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Don Guthrie Sent:
Friday, July 26, 2013 5:57 PM To:pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO Car
parts

I meant to post this all day & now must rush. This gallery is for
car nuts or just anyone who likes color & design. Taken with K 5 &
70 mm prime for the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or
critique or both.

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR

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Re: Article on Leica cameras on BBC online

2013-07-29 Thread Bob W

On 29 Jul 2013, at 13:58, Walt  wrote:

> On 7/29/2013 7:44 AM, Doug Franklin wrote:
>> On 2013-07-29 7:03, Walt wrote:
>> 
>>> I've never heard ["much of a muchness"] before. Is that a common British
>>> colloquialism?
>> 
>> I've heard that one, but it's been years.  I've only ever heard it from a 
>> Brit or in a book authored by a Brit.  I don't know how common it is, 
>> though.  The web site www.phrases.org.uk claims that it's never really been 
>> common (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/251550.html).

I would say it's really quite a common phrase.

> Interesting, Doug. Thanks for the pointer.
> 
> I'm going to have to incorporate it into my highfalutin banter oeuvre -- 
> right after I learn to properly pronounce oeuvre.
> 

/ˈəːvɹə/



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Re: PESOs - 3 new ones with the K-5 and MANUAL lens

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> Thanks Don and Bruce..
>
>
> On 7/29/2013 12:02, Don Guthrie wrote:
>>
>> Great subject choice as always (even the cat). I looked at the exif and
>> it appears that you didn't tell the K-5 the focal length of your manual
>> lens  & that might make a difference to the SR.
>
>
>
> I finally figured that out... however... the lens I put on is a 50mm
> physically, but that means on a digital camera what you see is something
> like , um what? 80?

My understanding if its a 50 tell it its a 50.

Dave
>
> I had a lot of trouble keeping things sharp -
>
> Now - the 50mm I used has an A on the barrel - that is, you can set it on A.
> The 28mm I have does not, and when I put THAT on the K-5 even with M set on
> both focus and mode nothing happened.  Couldnt use it on the IstD either..
>
> Anyone know if it is out of the question ?  I couldnt find anything in the
> manual "attach a proper lens" didn't help much :-)
>
> It was sheer luck, it appears, that I had anything in focus at all
>
> ann
>
>
>
>>
>> I have not used many manual focus lenses on my K-5. For me they work
>> better on K-1 because it allows focus peaking but then I still have my
>> cataracts.
>>
>>
>> pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
>>>
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:18:03 -0400
>>> From: Ann Sanfedele
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: PESOs - 3 new ones with the K-5 and MANUAL lens
>>> Message-ID:<51f5b4bb.5090...@nyc.rr.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>>
>>> I went out this evening near dusk for these - it just started to rain.
>>> I wanted to check out the K-5 with a manual lens... if only I could
>>> focus faster I'd have had a lot more respectable shots..
>>> But I like these three - 2 street shots, and one kitty.. (not Ashley
>>>
>>> The lens was the smc Pentax-A 50mm f1.4 that I've had since the early
>>> 80's.  It seems to me there is lots more light coming into the good ole
>>> manual than the DA 18-55.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662636400_Bg5FRgD/Medium
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662602725_2cksxrx/Medium
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662619043_R3BZB3p/Medium
>>>
>>>
>>> ann
>>
>>
>>
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Re: PESOs - 3 new ones with the K-5 and MANUAL lens

Nicely done for all three, but i ;ole the second shot

Dave

On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> I went out this evening near dusk for these - it just started to rain. I
> wanted to check out the K-5 with a manual lens... if only I could focus
> faster I'd have had a lot more respectable shots..
> But I like these three - 2 street shots, and one kitty.. (not Ashley
>
> The lens was the smc Pentax-A 50mm f1.4 that I've had since the early 80's.
> It seems to me there is lots more light coming into the good ole manual than
> the DA 18-55.
>
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662636400_Bg5FRgD/Medium
>
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662602725_2cksxrx/Medium
>
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662619043_R3BZB3p/Medium
>
> ann
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Re: GESO Car parts

2013-07-29 Thread Bob W

>  the rear
> end collision broken filler neck problem.


Is that why the other one didn't survive the honeymoon?

On 29 Jul 2013, at 16:42, John  wrote:

> The little station wagon was a pretty good car; not subject to the rear
> end collision broken filler neck problem.
> 
> The only real problem I had with mine was the automatic transmission was
> the same unit Ford used for their larger vehicles & it sucked a lot of
> power out of the vehicle.
> 
> If it had been a stick shift, I might still have it running today.
> 
> On 7/29/2013 11:34 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:
>> I don't know about "warm" memories of a Pinto. My brother had one
>> when he got married & it did not survive the honeymoon. Glad you
>> enjoyed the pics thanks for commenting.
>> 
>> pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
>>> Message: 1 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:01:27 -0400 From: "Gerrit
>>> Visser" To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail
>>> List'" Subject: RE: GESO Car parts Message-ID:
>>> <002e01ce8b0c$76b1df40$64159dc0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain;
>>> charset="us-ascii"
>>> 
>>> Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah, those
>>> were the days.
>>> 
>>> Good angles and framing.
>>> 
>>> Gerrit
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: PDML
>>> [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Don Guthrie Sent:
>>> Friday, July 26, 2013 5:57 PM To:pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO Car
>>> parts
>>> 
>>> I meant to post this all day & now must rush. This gallery is for
>>> car nuts or just anyone who likes color & design. Taken with K 5 &
>>> 70 mm prime for the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or
>>> critique or both.
>>> 
>>> http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR
>>> 
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Re: PESO Weiner decay

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Walt" 

Subject: Re: PESO Weiner decay

He's probably on a roll

Where's Frank when you need him?

On 7/28/2013 3:14 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

So now you're in a pickle?

On 7/28/2013 4:00 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

I don't relish even trying.

On 2013-07-28, at 3:42 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:

I don't know if I can cut the mustard...

On 7/28/2013 2:06 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

You'll have to ketchup!

-Original Message-

From: Paul Sorenson 
Subject: Re: PESO Weiner decay

Damn, Ann...you're up early today.  You beat me to the punch.  I 
thought

this was going to be a political thread, too. ;>)

-p

On 7/28/2013 7:30 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Been paying attention to NY politics, eh?

ann

On 7/28/2013 07:01, Larry Colen wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9381352525/in/set-72157634828608896/

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Amazon.ca deal of the week: K-30 $599

For the Canuckians:

K-30 Weather Sealed Digital SLR with Smc DA 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 AL WR
http://www.amazon.ca/Pentax-K-30-Weather-DA-F3-5-5-6/dp/B009W7WW26

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OT "pose it, light it"

With Clay Blackmore. This guy is good.

http://www.creativelive.com/live1

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Re: GESO Car parts

My god man, that's the first time I've heard of doing that destroying 
the car.  Your brother must be very proud.


On 7/29/2013 11:34 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:
I don't know about "warm" memories of a Pinto. My brother had one when 
he got married & it did not survive the honeymoon. Glad you enjoyed 
the pics thanks for commenting.


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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:01:27 -0400
From: "Gerrit Visser"
To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'"
Subject: RE: GESO Car parts
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Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah, those were the
days.

Good angles and framing.

Gerrit

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Don Guthrie
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 5:57 PM
To:pdml@pdml.net
Subject: GESO Car parts

I meant to post this all day & now must rush. This gallery is for car 
nuts
or just anyone who likes color & design. Taken with K 5 & 70 mm prime 
for

the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or critique or both.

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR

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'Ol 6813 ,for the RR people here

>From the round house museum, 'ol CNR engine 6813. I have film B&W
shots of this when it was at the CNE grounds.
Tough to get ashot with the floating fence around it

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17479090


A link ot he PDF of its history below.

http://www.trha.ca/resources/090918.6213.COMMEMORATIVE.eBook.pdf

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Re: OT: Anyone here built a hackintosh?

2013-07-29 Thread steve harley


on 2013-07-29 9:36 John wrote

And in truth, I'm not even sure software updates will be that much of a
problem for me.


would be funny if your hackintosh were hacked ;?>



I got to thinking about a hackintosh because some software I'm
interested in doesn't come in a Windoze version. But, it's not software
I'd feel the need to continually upgrade to the latest version. Install
it once, and I'm done with the need to upgrade.


it was the OS updates that were trouble; but if you never use the internet with 
the OS, it's pretty safe without updates



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Peso Me and 'ol 4803

Liz and I went down to our first live baseball game in quite a while
Sunday. There is a bit of a museum dedicated to the old trains , round
about at the Steam Whistle brewery across from the Rogers Centre, were
the Jays played Houston.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17479074

My first time on an engine.:-)

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Re: OT: Anyone here built a hackintosh?

2013-07-29 Thread Aahz Maruch

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013, Charles Robinson wrote:
> On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:36 , John  wrote:
>> 
>> Half the fun is rounding up the parts, putting them all together &
>> having the damn thing actually work when you finally shoot the power to it.
> 
> Have you looked at this guide?
> 
> http://www.macbreaker.com/2012/07/mountain-lion-virtualbox.html

He already specifically said he wanted a physical machine, not virtual.
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Re: OT: Anyone here built a hackintosh?

2013-07-29 Thread Charles Robinson

On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:36 , John  wrote:

> Half the fun is rounding up the parts, putting them all together &
> having the damn thing actually work when you finally shoot the power to it.
> 
> The software update thingy could be a problem, although I don't think
> Apple's position regarding home-brewed computers running Mac OS is
> going to be tenable in the long run.
> 
> And in truth, I'm not even sure software updates will be that much of a
> problem for me.
> 

Have you looked at this guide?

http://www.macbreaker.com/2012/07/mountain-lion-virtualbox.html

Looks like it might get you going with a minimum of fuss.

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Re: Article on Leica cameras on BBC online

2013-07-29 Thread John Francis

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 06:03:07AM -0500, Walt wrote:
> On 7/28/2013 1:12 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> >http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20130726-leica-shoot-to-thrill
> >Pretty interesting.
> Interesting article -- but, the strangest thing jumped out at me: ".
> . . they look much of a muchness."
> 
> I've never heard that expression before. Is that a common British
> colloquialism?
> 
> -- Walt

While I wouldn't say it is particularly common, it does turn
up in "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" (where it features
at the Mad Hatters tea party, IIRC).

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Re: PESOs - 3 new ones with the K-5 and MANUAL lens


Thanks Don and Bruce..

On 7/29/2013 12:02, Don Guthrie wrote:

Great subject choice as always (even the cat). I looked at the exif and
it appears that you didn't tell the K-5 the focal length of your manual
lens  & that might make a difference to the SR.



I finally figured that out... however... the lens I put on is a 50mm 
physically, but that means on a digital camera what you see is something 
like , um what? 80?


I had a lot of trouble keeping things sharp -

Now - the 50mm I used has an A on the barrel - that is, you can set it 
on A.  The 28mm I have does not, and when I put THAT on the K-5 even 
with M set on both focus and mode nothing happened.  Couldnt use it on 
the IstD either..


Anyone know if it is out of the question ?  I couldnt find anything in 
the manual "attach a proper lens" didn't help much :-)


It was sheer luck, it appears, that I had anything in focus at all

ann




I have not used many manual focus lenses on my K-5. For me they work
better on K-1 because it allows focus peaking but then I still have my
cataracts.


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I went out this evening near dusk for these - it just started to rain.
I wanted to check out the K-5 with a manual lens... if only I could
focus faster I'd have had a lot more respectable shots..
But I like these three - 2 street shots, and one kitty.. (not Ashley

The lens was the smc Pentax-A 50mm f1.4 that I've had since the early
80's.  It seems to me there is lots more light coming into the good ole
manual than the DA 18-55.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662636400_Bg5FRgD/Medium


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662602725_2cksxrx/Medium


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662619043_R3BZB3p/Medium


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Re:PESOs - 3 new ones with the K-5 and MANUAL lens

Great subject choice as always (even the cat). I looked at the exif and 
it appears that you didn't tell the K-5 the focal length of your manual 
lens  & that might make a difference to the SR.


I have not used many manual focus lenses on my K-5. For me they work 
better on K-1 because it allows focus peaking but then I still have my 
cataracts.



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I went out this evening near dusk for these - it just started to rain.
I wanted to check out the K-5 with a manual lens... if only I could
focus faster I'd have had a lot more respectable shots..
But I like these three - 2 street shots, and one kitty.. (not Ashley

The lens was the smc Pentax-A 50mm f1.4 that I've had since the early
80's.  It seems to me there is lots more light coming into the good ole
manual than the DA 18-55.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662636400_Bg5FRgD/Medium

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662602725_2cksxrx/Medium

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662619043_R3BZB3p/Medium

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PESO - Another Restored Canyon Photo

2013-07-29 Thread George Sinos

That's me hanging out on a ledge in 1975.  My buddy shot the photo
with my camera, then we changed places and I returned the favor.



This is another photo scanned from an old Fuji slide.  It didn't turn
out to bad.  The colors were very faded but using the Lightroom
eyedropper on one of the clouds did a very reasonable job of cleaning
up the color.

gs

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Re:PESOs - delightful details

Love the gold lettering in 2580!

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Shot the Concours d'El?gance of America today for The Times. Fabulous show, 
arguably among the world's top ten.

A couple of details of one of my personal favorites: a rose and white 1956 
Packard Caribbean. I'm a sucker for the fifties stuff. But just look at the 
typography on the Caribbean badging. Packard had style. (The Mercedes 540Kk, 
the 1935 Alfa 8C and the Talbot Lago 150C Roadster tugged at my heartstrings as 
well -- along with hundreds of others.) More pics after my piece is published.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17477946&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17477945&size=lg

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Re: GESO Car parts


The little station wagon was a pretty good car; not subject to the rear
end collision broken filler neck problem.

The only real problem I had with mine was the automatic transmission was
the same unit Ford used for their larger vehicles & it sucked a lot of
power out of the vehicle.

If it had been a stick shift, I might still have it running today.

On 7/29/2013 11:34 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:

I don't know about "warm" memories of a Pinto. My brother had one
when he got married & it did not survive the honeymoon. Glad you
enjoyed the pics thanks for commenting.

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Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah, those
were the days.

Good angles and framing.

Gerrit

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Friday, July 26, 2013 5:57 PM To:pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO Car
parts

I meant to post this all day & now must rush. This gallery is for
car nuts or just anyone who likes color & design. Taken with K 5 &
70 mm prime for the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or
critique or both.

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR

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RE: GESO Car parts


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Message: 7

Thanks, Paul. The hard part of photography sometimes is what to leave out.



Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:59:21 -0400
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Well done. Nice framing.

Paul via phone

On Jul 27, 2013, at 5:01 PM, "Gerrit Visser"  wrote:


>Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah, those were the
>days.
>
>Good angles and framing.
>
>Gerrit
>
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>From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Don Guthrie
>Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 5:57 PM
>To:pdml@pdml.net
>Subject: GESO Car parts
>
>I meant to post this all day & now must rush. This gallery is for car nuts
>or just anyone who likes color & design. Taken with K 5 & 70 mm prime for
>the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or critique or both.
>
>http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR
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Re: OT: Anyone here built a hackintosh?


Half the fun is rounding up the parts, putting them all together &
having the damn thing actually work when you finally shoot the power to it.

The software update thingy could be a problem, although I don't think
Apple's position regarding home-brewed computers running Mac OS is
going to be tenable in the long run.

And in truth, I'm not even sure software updates will be that much of a
problem for me.

I got to thinking about a hackintosh because some software I'm
interested in doesn't come in a Windoze version. But, it's not software
I'd feel the need to continually upgrade to the latest version. Install
it once, and I'm done with the need to upgrade.

Plus, it looks like Windoze versions are possibly in the future AND
Windoze alternatives already exist.

On 7/28/2013 4:11 PM, steve harley wrote:

on 2013-07-27 15:26 John Sessoms wrote

I'm thinking about it. Only a mild intellectual curiosity at the
moment, but if anyone has ideas I'd be interested in hearing them.


most people don't build them, they just hack OS X to install on
certain stock Windows-oriented hardware

a software developer friend with whom i went sailing a few weeks ago
has a hackintosh; he's gotten quite tired of it as keeping the
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RE: GESO Car parts

I don't know about "warm" memories of a Pinto. My brother had one when 
he got married & it did not survive the honeymoon. Glad you enjoyed the 
pics thanks for commenting.

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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 17:01:27 -0400
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Brought back warm memories of my Pinto station wagon. Ah, those were the
days.

Good angles and framing.

Gerrit

-Original Message-
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Don Guthrie
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 5:57 PM
To:pdml@pdml.net
Subject: GESO Car parts

I meant to post this all day & now must rush. This gallery is for car nuts
or just anyone who likes color & design. Taken with K 5 & 70 mm prime for
the most part plus a few strays with 35mm. Enjoy or critique or both.

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Cars/Auto-Logos/30719412_DMR5PR

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Re: PESOs - 3 new ones with the K-5 and MANUAL lens

You're clearly having a great time, Ann. I love Crossing 2nd Ave and
Tiger. Keep 'em coming!

On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> I went out this evening near dusk for these - it just started to rain. I
> wanted to check out the K-5 with a manual lens... if only I could focus
> faster I'd have had a lot more respectable shots..
> But I like these three - 2 street shots, and one kitty.. (not Ashley
>
> The lens was the smc Pentax-A 50mm f1.4 that I've had since the early 80's.
> It seems to me there is lots more light coming into the good ole manual than
> the DA 18-55.
>
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662636400_Bg5FRgD/Medium
>
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662602725_2cksxrx/Medium
>
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662619043_R3BZB3p/Medium
>
> ann
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Re: PESO Weiner decay


No problem as long as you don't cut the cheese.

On 7/28/2013 3:42 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

I don't know if I can cut the mustard...

On 7/28/2013 2:06 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

You'll have to ketchup!

-Original Message-

From: Paul Sorenson 
Subject: Re: PESO Weiner decay

Damn, Ann...you're up early today.  You beat me to the punch.  I thought
this was going to be a political thread, too. ;>)

-p

On 7/28/2013 7:30 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Been paying attention to NY politics, eh?

ann

On 7/28/2013 07:01, Larry Colen wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9381352525/in/set-72157634828608896/



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Re: PESO Weiner decay


Ok.

I just wondered, because we've got a small restaurant chain around here
called the "Wiener Hut" that sells hot-dogs.

Plus, the guy who's been in the news again lately didn't get in trouble
sending out photos of his pork chops, IYKWIM.


On 7/29/2013 10:49 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

Wiener refers to Viennese.  Wiener Schnitzel is the national dish of
Austria.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiener_Schnitzel

-p

On 7/29/2013 9:37 AM, John wrote:

Doesn't the "Weiner" part sort of imply some kind of a sausage; chicken
fried hot-dogs?

On 7/28/2013 8:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Well you could say Chicken Fried steak is White trash schnitzel :-)

ann

On 7/28/2013 18:13, Larry Colen wrote:

On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 04:15:39PM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote:


Larry,

I don't think "schnitzel" means "chicken fried steak", rather it's a
"cutlet" (as in "a portion of sliced meat breaded and served either
grilled or fried.")
Often, it's a veal or other "lighter" meat.


Schnitzel may not "mean" chicken fried steak, but I think that
Chicken Fried steak qualifies as schnitzel, it's a thin, tenderized
slice
of meat that is breaded and grilled or fried.










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Re: PESO Weiner decay


Only in NY politics
see Paul Sorenson's post:-)

ann

On 7/29/2013 10:37, John wrote:

Doesn't the "Weiner" part sort of imply some kind of a sausage; chicken
fried hot-dogs?

On 7/28/2013 8:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Well you could say Chicken Fried steak is White trash schnitzel :-)

ann

On 7/28/2013 18:13, Larry Colen wrote:

On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 04:15:39PM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote:


Larry,

I don't think "schnitzel" means "chicken fried steak", rather it's a
"cutlet" (as in "a portion of sliced meat breaded and served either
grilled or fried.")
Often, it's a veal or other "lighter" meat.


Schnitzel may not "mean" chicken fried steak, but I think that
Chicken Fried steak qualifies as schnitzel, it's a thin, tenderized
slice
of meat that is breaded and grilled or fried.








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Re: PESOs - delightful details

I love these auto details, Paul. The bright colours, design and type
make great canvases.

On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Shot the Concours d'Elégance of America today for The Times. Fabulous show, 
> arguably among the world's top ten.
>
> A couple of details of one of my personal favorites: a rose and white 1956 
> Packard Caribbean. I'm a sucker for the fifties stuff. But just look at the 
> typography on the Caribbean badging. Packard had style. (The Mercedes 540Kk, 
> the 1935 Alfa 8C and the Talbot Lago 150C Roadster tugged at my heartstrings 
> as well -- along with hundreds of others.) More pics after my piece is 
> published.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17477946&size=lg
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17477945&size=lg
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Re: PESO: A Bike for Frank


He should have used cormorants.

On 7/29/2013 9:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Thanks, Ann, Larry and Brian.  This is a brief explanation of the
special exhibit that included the bicycle:

In THE DOMESTIC ARTS BUILDING - Main Gallery (through September 22,
2013), GFS showcases Pepón Osorio's Where the Me Becomes We. Osorio is
best known for multimedia works that combine elements of popular
culture, domestic life and performance in order to address political
and cultural issues concerning Latino and other immigrant communities
in the United States. Moving to New York in 1975, Osorio spent five
years as a social worker in the Bronx and, influenced by this
experience, became interested in how art can effect social change.
Using a visual vocabulary that incorporates the colorful plethora of
pop cultural knickknacks associated with a Latino aesthetic of
embellishment and decoration, his work points up how issues of race,
class, and economy affect the value that we place upon objects and
images.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:

Quoting "Daniel J. Matyola" :


 From an exhibit at Grounds for Sculpture, Hamilton, New Jersey:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17478022
Comments are invited.




The swans are a nice touch

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Re: Article on Leica cameras on BBC online


On 7/29/2013 8:58 AM, Walt wrote:

On 7/29/2013 7:44 AM, Doug Franklin wrote:

On 2013-07-29 7:03, Walt wrote:


I've never heard ["much of a muchness"] before. Is that a common British
colloquialism?


I've heard that one, but it's been years.  I've only ever heard it
from a Brit or in a book authored by a Brit.  I don't know how common
it is, though.  The web site www.phrases.org.uk claims that it's never
really been common (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/251550.html).


Interesting, Doug. Thanks for the pointer.

I'm going to have to incorporate it into my highfalutin banter oeuvre --
right after I learn to properly pronounce oeuvre.


Can't make an omelette with braking some oeuvres!

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Re: PESO Weiner decay

2013-07-29 Thread Paul Sorenson

Wiener refers to Viennese.  Wiener Schnitzel is the national dish of 
Austria.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiener_Schnitzel

-p

On 7/29/2013 9:37 AM, John wrote:

Doesn't the "Weiner" part sort of imply some kind of a sausage; chicken
fried hot-dogs?

On 7/28/2013 8:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Well you could say Chicken Fried steak is White trash schnitzel :-)

ann

On 7/28/2013 18:13, Larry Colen wrote:

On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 04:15:39PM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote:


Larry,

I don't think "schnitzel" means "chicken fried steak", rather it's a
"cutlet" (as in "a portion of sliced meat breaded and served either
grilled or fried.")
Often, it's a veal or other "lighter" meat.


Schnitzel may not "mean" chicken fried steak, but I think that
Chicken Fried steak qualifies as schnitzel, it's a thin, tenderized
slice
of meat that is breaded and grilled or fried.








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Re: PESO: René Magritte, Postmaster General


There's probably a Jimmy Buffett song in there somewhere.

On 7/28/2013 6:43 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

I'd go crazy trying to maintain mine.

On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

I have no sanity to maintain

ann


On 7/28/2013 12:02, Gerrit Visser wrote:


Put them up on a virtual dart board and choose one that way?

Mine is already submitted, not looking for more to maintain my sanity.

Gerrit

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I think a few of us are squandering perfect August theme photos on PESO's
this month...

Reminder - August theme = Signs of the Times

My problem is I have too many of them - what to do, what to do

ann


On 7/28/2013 08:28, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Great find!  Clever.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:


http://abattoir5.com/picture.php?/350

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Re: PESO: René Magritte, Postmaster General

2013-07-29 Thread Matthew Hunt

On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> I think a few of us are squandering perfect August theme photos on PESO's
> this month...
>
> Reminder - August theme = Signs of the Times

No worries here! I've got my Signs of the Times submitted already.

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Re: PESOs - delightful details


It's more legible than my own handwriting.

On 7/28/2013 8:55 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I like the patterns in the first one... I'm getting bad with cursive
- I couldn't tell it said "Caribbean"

ann

On 7/28/2013 19:29, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Shot the Concours d'Elégance of America today for The Times.
Fabulous show, arguably among the world's top ten.

A couple of details of one of my personal favorites: a rose and
white 1956 Packard Caribbean. I'm a sucker for the fifties stuff.
But just look at the typography on the Caribbean badging. Packard
had style. (The Mercedes 540Kk, the 1935 Alfa 8C and the Talbot
Lago 150C Roadster tugged at my heartstrings as well -- along with
hundreds of others.) More pics after my piece is published.

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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17477945&size=lg





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Re: PESO Weiner decay

Doesn't the "Weiner" part sort of imply some kind of a sausage; chicken 
fried hot-dogs?


On 7/28/2013 8:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Well you could say Chicken Fried steak is White trash schnitzel :-)

ann

On 7/28/2013 18:13, Larry Colen wrote:

On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 04:15:39PM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote:


Larry,

I don't think "schnitzel" means "chicken fried steak", rather it's a
"cutlet" (as in "a portion of sliced meat breaded and served either
grilled or fried.")
Often, it's a veal or other "lighter" meat.


Schnitzel may not "mean" chicken fried steak, but I think that
Chicken Fried steak qualifies as schnitzel, it's a thin, tenderized slice
of meat that is breaded and grilled or fried.






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Re: PESO Weiner decay

Out bustin' his buns somewhere.

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Walt  wrote:
> Where's Frank when you need him?
>
>
> On 7/28/2013 3:14 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
>>
>> So now you're in a pickle?
>>
>> On 7/28/2013 4:00 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't relish even trying.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2013-07-28, at 3:42 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
>>>
 I don't know if I can cut the mustard...

 On 7/28/2013 2:06 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:
>
> You'll have to ketchup!
>
> -Original Message-
>>
>> From: Paul Sorenson 
>> Subject: Re: PESO Weiner decay
>>
>> Damn, Ann...you're up early today.  You beat me to the punch.  I
>> thought
>> this was going to be a political thread, too. ;>)
>>
>> -p
>>
>> On 7/28/2013 7:30 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
>>>
>>> Been paying attention to NY politics, eh?
>>>
>>> ann
>>>
>>> On 7/28/2013 07:01, Larry Colen wrote:


 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9381352525/in/set-72157634828608896/


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Re: PESOs - 3 new ones with the K-5 and MANUAL lens



On 7/29/2013 00:21, Larry Colen wrote:

Wow! You must have a really nice camera!
:-)


Yup, I do

thanks, Larry

an



Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

I went out this evening near dusk for these - it just started to rain.
I wanted to check out the K-5 with a manual lens... if only I could
focus faster I'd have had a lot more respectable shots..
But I like these three - 2 street shots, and one kitty.. (not Ashley

The lens was the smc Pentax-A 50mm f1.4 that I've had since the early
80's.  It seems to me there is lots more light coming into the good ole

manual than the DA 18-55.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662636400_Bg5FRgD/Medium

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662602725_2cksxrx/Medium

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2662619043_R3BZB3p/Medium

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Re: PESO: A Bike for Frank

Thanks, Ann, Larry and Brian.  This is a brief explanation of the
special exhibit that included the bicycle:

In THE DOMESTIC ARTS BUILDING - Main Gallery (through September 22,
2013), GFS showcases Pepón Osorio's Where the Me Becomes We. Osorio is
best known for multimedia works that combine elements of popular
culture, domestic life and performance in order to address political
and cultural issues concerning Latino and other immigrant communities
in the United States. Moving to New York in 1975, Osorio spent five
years as a social worker in the Bronx and, influenced by this
experience, became interested in how art can effect social change.
Using a visual vocabulary that incorporates the colorful plethora of
pop cultural knickknacks associated with a Latino aesthetic of
embellishment and decoration, his work points up how issues of race,
class, and economy affect the value that we place upon objects and
images.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> Quoting "Daniel J. Matyola" :
>
>> From an exhibit at Grounds for Sculpture, Hamilton, New Jersey:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17478022
>> Comments are invited.
>>
>
>
> The swans are a nice touch
>
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>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
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> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
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Re: Article on Leica cameras on BBC online

2013-07-29 Thread Walt


On 7/29/2013 7:44 AM, Doug Franklin wrote:

On 2013-07-29 7:03, Walt wrote:


I've never heard ["much of a muchness"] before. Is that a common British
colloquialism?


I've heard that one, but it's been years.  I've only ever heard it 
from a Brit or in a book authored by a Brit.  I don't know how common 
it is, though.  The web site www.phrases.org.uk claims that it's never 
really been common (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/251550.html).



Interesting, Doug. Thanks for the pointer.

I'm going to have to incorporate it into my highfalutin banter oeuvre -- 
right after I learn to properly pronounce oeuvre.


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Re: Article on Leica cameras on BBC online

2013-07-29 Thread Doug Franklin


On 2013-07-29 7:03, Walt wrote:


I've never heard ["much of a muchness"] before. Is that a common British
colloquialism?


I've heard that one, but it's been years.  I've only ever heard it from 
a Brit or in a book authored by a Brit.  I don't know how common it is, 
though.  The web site www.phrases.org.uk claims that it's never really 
been common (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/251550.html).


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Re: PESO Weiner decay

2013-07-29 Thread Walt


Where's Frank when you need him?

On 7/28/2013 3:14 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

So now you're in a pickle?

On 7/28/2013 4:00 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

I don't relish even trying.


On 2013-07-28, at 3:42 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:


I don't know if I can cut the mustard...

On 7/28/2013 2:06 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

You'll have to ketchup!

-Original Message-

From: Paul Sorenson 
Subject: Re: PESO Weiner decay

Damn, Ann...you're up early today.  You beat me to the punch.  I 
thought

this was going to be a political thread, too. ;>)

-p

On 7/28/2013 7:30 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Been paying attention to NY politics, eh?

ann

On 7/28/2013 07:01, Larry Colen wrote:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9381352525/in/set-72157634828608896/ 





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Re: Article on Leica cameras on BBC online

2013-07-29 Thread Darren Addy

Nick Ut could have never capture that iconic image unless that Leica
had as many AF points as it did.

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> Y
>
> Alan C
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> -Original Message- From: Walt
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> On 7/28/2013 1:12 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
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>> http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20130726-leica-shoot-to-thrill
>> Pretty interesting.
>>
> Interesting article -- but, the strangest thing jumped out at me: ". . .
> they look much of a muchness."
>
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> colloquialism?
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Re: PYJAMA PAIR

2013-07-29 Thread Alan C


Thanks, Mark. Seldom a problem with lighting around here.

Alan C


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Nice pair - excellent lighting and composition.

On 7/20/2013 8:44 AM, Alan C wrote:
Came across this handsome pair patiently waiting to cross the road near 
the Phalaborwa gate late on Sunday afternoon.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9327888794/

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Re: Article on Leica cameras on BBC online

2013-07-29 Thread Alan C

Y

Alan C

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On 7/28/2013 1:12 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20130726-leica-shoot-to-thrill
Pretty interesting.

Interesting article -- but, the strangest thing jumped out at me: ". . .
they look much of a muchness."

I've never heard that expression before. Is that a common British
colloquialism?

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Re: Article on Leica cameras on BBC online

2013-07-29 Thread Walt


On 7/28/2013 1:12 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20130726-leica-shoot-to-thrill
Pretty interesting.
  
Interesting article -- but, the strangest thing jumped out at me: ". . . 
they look much of a muchness."


I've never heard that expression before. Is that a common British 
colloquialism?


-- Walt

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Re: PESO: René Magritte, Postmaster General