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Hi Team,

I'm interested if your camera makes obvious noise when doing long
exposures or during the sensor clean cycle?

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Re: Question for K5/K7 owners

2013-08-23 Thread Matthew Hunt

On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Rob Studdert  wrote:

> I'm interested if your camera makes obvious noise when doing long
> exposures or during the sensor clean cycle?

My K-7 has a slightly audible whine or high-pitched buzz when the
shutter is open.

(I had always attributed it to the SR system, but upon further
reflection, I think it also happens when SR is disabled. I don't have
it with me to test right now.)

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Re: Question for K5/K7 owners

2013-08-23 Thread Zos Xavius

Its the SR. Don't worry the slightest about it! Even with SR off it
still has to lock the sensor in place.

On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Rob Studdert  wrote:
>
>> I'm interested if your camera makes obvious noise when doing long
>> exposures or during the sensor clean cycle?
>
> My K-7 has a slightly audible whine or high-pitched buzz when the
> shutter is open.
>
> (I had always attributed it to the SR system, but upon further
> reflection, I think it also happens when SR is disabled. I don't have
> it with me to test right now.)
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Re: Question for K5/K7 owners

2013-08-23 Thread Zos Xavius

My k-5 has noticeably louder SR than the k-7. Who knows why.

On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Zos Xavius  wrote:
> Its the SR. Don't worry the slightest about it! Even with SR off it
> still has to lock the sensor in place.
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Matthew Hunt  wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Rob Studdert  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm interested if your camera makes obvious noise when doing long
>>> exposures or during the sensor clean cycle?
>>
>> My K-7 has a slightly audible whine or high-pitched buzz when the
>> shutter is open.
>>
>> (I had always attributed it to the SR system, but upon further
>> reflection, I think it also happens when SR is disabled. I don't have
>> it with me to test right now.)
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Re: VIVITAR 75-200mm

2013-08-23 Thread Bob Sullivan

Run it out as close as you can focus then pull the front out about 2
mm and continue closer focus?  I had something that worked like that
once. Remember to be macro focusing, you will need to get extra
extension of the lens, moving the front farther from the camera body.
Hope this helps.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> Picked up a Vivitar 75-200mm f4.5 MC MACRO FOCUSING ZOOM for a song. It is
> an "A" lens & works well but unfortunately has a bit of fungus inside (which
> doesn't seem to affect it's performance). Is there any easy way I can get
> rid of it without stripping the lens? I read on the web that the spores can
> get out & "infect" other lenses so I don't know if that's a problem too.
> Lastly, maybe I'm dof, but I can't figure out how to get into macro mode. It
> doesn't "pop" like a similar Soligor lens.
>
> Alan
>
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Re: PESO - A Lovely Afternoon for Painting

Thanks, Bob and Chris!
 
Rick


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Subject: Re: PESO - A Lovely Afternoon for Painting

I like it. Super composition.

Chris

On 22 August 2013 22:19, Rick Womer  wrote:
> Atop a minor local mountain with a splendid view:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17505433&size=lg
>
>
> or
>
> http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17505433-lg.jpg
>
>
> (K-5, FA 28/2.8)
>
> Comments appreciated.
>
> Rick
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Re: PESO: Dark Morph Swallowtail

2013-08-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

Thanks, Bob.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Each is very nice Dan.  Special that you could catch them.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Daniel J. Matyola
>  wrote:
>> I continue chasing butterflies.
>>
>> First I posted a PESO of a male Eastern Tiger Swallowtail, Papilio
>> glaucus:   http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17493755
>>
>> I then did a PESO showing the yellow morph female Eastern Tiger
>> Swallowtail:  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17504449
>> The principal difference is the band of bright blue spots at the base
>> of the female's wings.
>>
>> There is another variety of Papilio glaucus, however;  the dark morph
>> of the female, which is almost completely black, but still has the
>> band of blue dots.  Here is one from my butterfly bush:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17493747&size=md
>>
>> Comments are invited.
>>
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Re: Question for K5/K7 owners

2013-08-23 Thread Charles Robinson

On Aug 23, 2013, at 07:35 , Zos Xavius  wrote:

> My k-5 has noticeably louder SR than the k-7. Who knows why.
> 

I used to think the K5 sounded kinda loud (although dramatically quieter than 
the K10D and a bit quieter than the K7) until I gave it to someone and had them 
trip the shutter when my head wasn't jammed up against the body. 

Nearly silent. 

Cool.

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Re: VIVITAR 75-200mm

2013-08-23 Thread Alan C

Thanks, Bob. I still have a Soligor 80-200 f4.5 which works like that, but 
not the Vivitar. There must either be a trick I haven't yet discovered or 
perhaps one has to use an extension tube?


Alan

-Original Message- 
From: Bob Sullivan

Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 2:39 PM
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Run it out as close as you can focus then pull the front out about 2
mm and continue closer focus?  I had something that worked like that
once. Remember to be macro focusing, you will need to get extra
extension of the lens, moving the front farther from the camera body.
Hope this helps.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Alan C  wrote:

Picked up a Vivitar 75-200mm f4.5 MC MACRO FOCUSING ZOOM for a song. It is
an "A" lens & works well but unfortunately has a bit of fungus inside 
(which

doesn't seem to affect it's performance). Is there any easy way I can get
rid of it without stripping the lens? I read on the web that the spores 
can

get out & "infect" other lenses so I don't know if that's a problem too.
Lastly, maybe I'm dof, but I can't figure out how to get into macro mode. 
It

doesn't "pop" like a similar Soligor lens.

Alan


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Re: Question for K5/K7 owners

My K20D makes an obvious humming/buzzing sound when making long 
exposures.  I believe the sensor shift system isn't exactly silent.  It 
isn't very loud however your ear has to be right next to the camera to 
hear it.  I don't think that has changed from the K10 through k-5.


On 8/23/2013 8:23 AM, Rob Studdert wrote:

Hi Team,

I'm interested if your camera makes obvious noise when doing long
exposures or during the sensor clean cycle?

Cheers,




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Re: Question for K5/K7 owners


On 8/23/2013 8:33 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Rob Studdert  wrote:


I'm interested if your camera makes obvious noise when doing long
exposures or during the sensor clean cycle?

My K-7 has a slightly audible whine or high-pitched buzz when the
shutter is open.

(I had always attributed it to the SR system, but upon further
reflection, I think it also happens when SR is disabled. I don't have
it with me to test right now.)

Due to the nature of the SR system even if SR is disabled the sensor 
shift system is actively holding the sensor in place.


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Re: VIVITAR 75-200mm

Vivitar sold a number of 70~75mm - 200~210mm lenses made by a number of 
manufactures, it would help to know which particular one you were 
talking about.  It could be that "Macro" just means close focus, 
(approximately 1:4 magnification), at it's maximum focal length.


On 8/23/2013 5:57 AM, Alan C wrote:
Picked up a Vivitar 75-200mm f4.5 MC MACRO FOCUSING ZOOM for a song. 
It is an "A" lens & works well but unfortunately has a bit of fungus 
inside (which doesn't seem to affect it's performance). Is there any 
easy way I can get rid of it without stripping the lens? I read on the 
web that the spores can get out & "infect" other lenses so I don't 
know if that's a problem too. Lastly, maybe I'm dof, but I can't 
figure out how to get into macro mode. It doesn't "pop" like a similar 
Soligor lens.


Alan





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Re: Giving up on Pentax (probably)


Aren't they already full frame?

On 8/22/2013 2:58 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Me too, Paul. How come nobody ever asks when the four-thirds companies
(like Olympus) are going to come out with a FF?

I think if you were a landscape photographer shooting wall-size murals
you'd be best served with a 645D, which you _can_ actually get.
Personally I'd rather see Pentax develop improved studio features (eg
tethering) for the 645D than spend scant development resources on a
so-called FF body and new lenses.


On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

On Aug 22, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:


Uh-oh. Popcorn time! :-)

I'm always mystified in regard to the urgency of FF. My camera works great. If 
I were a landscape photographer shooting wall-size murals I might think 
otherwise, but I don't plan on going there.



On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

On Aug 22, 2013, at 12:39 PM, John  wrote:


On 8/22/2013 5:58 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:

I can certainly understand your feelings.  Frankly, I'd counsel waiting
until the next round of product announcements before doing anything that
involves transactions of large amounts of cash.

Good point - I guess that the F* and FA lenses would become more
desirable should a FF body come into existence. But how long do I
wait?


That's a question I've been asking for some time.

I've decided to give them until the end of 2013 to announce and I must
be able to get it IN MY HANDS no later than 30 Jun 2014.

And at that, I still expect it's going to be too little, too late.

Why exactly do you need full frame? Just curious.

Paul

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Re: Giving up on Pentax (probably)

I think it was the entire starting lineup exclusive of one man, that 
threw the world series, thus becoming the Chicago "Black Socks", or 
maybe "Sox", can't remember, no one seems to remember the name of the 
guy not implicated, but everyone remembers "Shoeless" Joe Jackson.


On 8/22/2013 5:45 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

And the original is from a Chicago newspaper as well: "Say it ain't so, Joe." 
Directed at Shoeless Joe Jackson when he was indicted for throwing the World Series.

Paul via phone

On Aug 22, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:


Oh, dear!  Say it ain't so.  :-)  Cheers, Christine

P.S. I should probably explain:  When Michael Jordon retired from the Chicago Bulls 
basketball team, a Chicago newspaper ran this headline:  "Say it ain't so, 
Michael."  So I'm referencing that headline.  Everyone in the city was so sad our 
shinning star was leaving our shinning team.

Cheers, Christine



On Aug 22, 2013, at 1:49 AM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:


Hi all

The last straw has been that my DA* 16-50 has stopped auto-focussing
again. The internal motor was replaced a couple of years ago (so out
of warranty) and now it looks like there's another couple of hundred
quid to be spent on it. And yes, I've cleaned all of the contacts and
yes, my DA* 50-135 works OK on my only remaining K-7 body.

So the decision's nearly made to sell off the K-7, DA* 16-50 (either
repaired or as is), DA* 50-135, a lovely F*300 4.5 (the one with the
tripod mount), an FA-135 2.8 (probably my favourite lens ever) and an
FA-50 1.7. I'll put the proceeds towards a backup Fuji X body and get
the excellent 55 - 200 zoom to cover the long end of the range and to
sit alongside my growing collection of Fuji X primes. I'll keep a
number of MF lenses so may still be able to appear in the PDML
annual...

Any guidance on how to price? Or if anyone's interested in making me
any sensible offers, contact me off list and I'll get more details and
photos arranged and we can sort out logistics.

Yours sadly, Chris

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Re: PESO - Subtlety


On 8/22/13 2:44 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Great collaboration with the young Anna in these photos Doug!



thank you, Bob, for all your encouragement. Working with her is great.


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Re: PESO - Subtlety


On 8/22/13 3:18 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Good title, Doug. Your editing restraint was very effective.

Jack


Thanks Jack. I believe this is the first time anyone has ever accused me 
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Re: VIVITAR 75-200mm

Also if you paid more than $10 bucks for it you were taken.  You can get 
a pristine copy of one of those Vivitar f4, f4.5 maximum aperture zooms 
for between $25 - $35, even in A mount. They were generally well built, 
but not the best optically.  In fact I think I'd rather have the later 
Cosina made manual focus Series one lenses that seem to be generally 
dismissed, unless the thing was literally given to me.


On 8/23/2013 11:04 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:
Vivitar sold a number of 70~75mm - 200~210mm lenses made by a number 
of manufactures, it would help to know which particular one you were 
talking about.  It could be that "Macro" just means close focus, 
(approximately 1:4 magnification), at it's maximum focal length.


On 8/23/2013 5:57 AM, Alan C wrote:
Picked up a Vivitar 75-200mm f4.5 MC MACRO FOCUSING ZOOM for a song. 
It is an "A" lens & works well but unfortunately has a bit of fungus 
inside (which doesn't seem to affect it's performance). Is there any 
easy way I can get rid of it without stripping the lens? I read on 
the web that the spores can get out & "infect" other lenses so I 
don't know if that's a problem too. Lastly, maybe I'm dof, but I 
can't figure out how to get into macro mode. It doesn't "pop" like a 
similar Soligor lens.


Alan








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Re: PESO - Subtlety


On 8/22/13 5:13 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:


I lied on Facebook, it's shit.

Bastard.


AAARGH.



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Re: PESO - Subtlety

Nice.  I'd prefer to see more detail in the blacks, (but then again what 
can you really tell on a web image), and the dynamic range is probably 
stretching the K20D sensor beyond it's limit.


On 8/22/2013 2:24 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

https://plus.google.com/115347824062413314605/posts/3SvUDez6XNA

Another photo of Anna.




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Re: PESO - Subtlety


On 8/22/13 9:03 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Nicely done. Something out of "a secret garden" in that.

Godfrey


Thank you, Godfrey. That was kind of the idea, and I'm glad it comes 
through.



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Re: PESO - Subtlety


On 8/23/13 7:18 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:



https://plus.google.com/115347824062413314605/posts/3SvUDez6XNA


That's one of the best black and white photographs I've seen in a long
time. Love everything about it.



I appreciate it, Steve. We got some very special shots, but even then, 
this one stood out.


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Re: Giving up on Pentax (probably)

Yes indeed. Olympus and Panasonic FourThirds and Micro-FourThirds cameras and 
lenses were designed specifically for the format size. 

That doesn't stop people from insisting that Olympus should build a larger, 
35mm film format camera, unfortunately. 

Godfrey

On Aug 23, 2013, at 8:05 AM, "P.J. Alling"  wrote:

> Aren't they already full frame?

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Re: PESO - Subtlety


On 8/22/13 7:49 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

surely that's Ingrid Bergman

ann


Here's looking at her.

and don't call me Shirley.


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Re: PESO - Subtlety


On 8/23/13 11:23 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

Nice.  I'd prefer to see more detail in the blacks, (but then again what
can you really tell on a web image), and the dynamic range is probably
stretching the K20D sensor beyond it's limit.


yeah, I knew I would get that complaint from some viewers, but I wanted 
the blacks to be be black. I don't recall what the K20 would have done 
here, but my obsolete K7 seemed up to the task.


Thanks for the thoughts.


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Re: PESO - Subtlety


It's supposed to be the same sensor as the K20D.

On 8/23/2013 11:31 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:

On 8/23/13 11:23 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

Nice.  I'd prefer to see more detail in the blacks, (but then again what
can you really tell on a web image), and the dynamic range is probably
stretching the K20D sensor beyond it's limit.


yeah, I knew I would get that complaint from some viewers, but I 
wanted the blacks to be be black. I don't recall what the K20 would 
have done here, but my obsolete K7 seemed up to the task.


Thanks for the thoughts.





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Re: PESO - Subtlety


On 8/23/13 11:40 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

It's supposed to be the same sensor as the K20D.



Really? They must have tweaked it some, because I get a wider DR than 
what I remember from the K20. I know it's less erratic than the K20, but 
that is more of a metering thing.



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Re: PESO - Kitchen Party at Coffee Time

2013-08-23 Thread John Sessoms


That sounds like my weekly folk music circle. Except for the dancing.

... and I guess the carousing, since the coffee house where we meet 
doesn't serve alcohol.



On 8/22/2013 1:24 PM, knarf wrote:

Yes, they're "emoting".

;-)

Btw the term "kitchen party" refers to an East Coast gathering in which 
everyone sits around the kitchen consuming libations whilst singing, dancing, playing 
music and generally carousing and having a good time.

Here in New Toronto there is a large Newfoundland community of which our guitarist is a 
member. He would have attended many a kitchen party "down home", I'm sure.

Thanks to all who commented!

Cheers,
frank

John  wrote:

What is it about them that makes you say that?

On 8/20/2013 11:07 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

These two don't appear to be having such a "good time." ;-)

Jack


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The patrons at the a local coffee shop were treated to an impromptu

country and western sing-a-long when this young guy whipped out his
guitar and started playing the classics:




http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/08/kitchen-party-at-coffee-time.html?m=1


A good time was had by all.

Hope y'all enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Musings about image formats

2013-08-23 Thread Stan Halpin

Rick Wormer recently posted a very nice PESO:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17505433&size=lg

Comments he has received so far mention the good composition. I totally agree - 
it is a boffo shot as presented.

However, viewing it quickly brought to mind some mild struggles I have been 
having. The recent workshop I attended yielded several shots I have been 
motivated to print, and I have started layout of a Blurb book based on that 
week's shots. The problem I am having is that many of my compositions, as seen 
through the viewfinder and as captured by the sensor, and as viewed on my 
monitor, are just about exactly the way I want them. But the format is not an 
8x10 nor 11x14 nor 13x17. So I need to print with too wide margins top or 
bottom. Same problem with Blurb layouts. Looking at Rick's image, I cannot see 
how he would be able to print the image in any standard format; any cropping on 
the sides would damage/destroy his composition. 

Paper can be trimmed, mats and frames can be custom cut. But it is still a 
nuisance.  I would love to have firmware in the camera that would show the 
viewing area with an 4x5 ratio (or other selectable ratio) partial mask. Many 
P&S cameras have a selectable format ratio when taking the photo;  I wouldn't 
want that. But if I am thinking "this shot could make a nice print", I would 
like a viewfinder reminder of the area(s) that would correspond to print format 
ratios. If I decide on a different presentation mode later, I would still have 
the full-frame image to work with, unlike with the P&S approach.

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Re: PESO: This is not a waiter


If you're one of them asthete cognoscenti conno-sewer types, you must
use the approved language when discussing *art*.

"Painted bronze" is what it's called out here amongst the great unwashed
hoi polloi.

On a different note, I've found another failure by the internet.

None of the on-line dictionaries shows an antonym for "hoi polloi";
plenty of synonyms, but no antonyms.

Had to come up with them myself. Bummer!

8-D

On 8/22/2013 1:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I think the plaque said painted bronze, but that may be the same thing,
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:12 PM, John  wrote:

I believe the accepted term in *art* is "polychrome bronze".


On 8/21/2013 9:49 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Thanks, Cotty and Rick.

The waitress is real, but the waiter behind her is not.  He is not
exactly wooden, however, but painted bronze.  He is located in the
patio of the Peacock Cafe at Grounds for Sculpture.

The waiter is a work based on a figure in the background of Edouard
Manet’s painting Chez le Pere Lathuille:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chez_le_p%C3%A8re_Lathuille

The waiter is one of a number of works at Grounds for Sculpture based
on famous Impressionistic paintings:
http://untappedcities.com/2013/01/18/grounds-for-sculpture/




Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:


Yes, he seems a bit stiff; I imagine his personality has been described
as wooden.

Though his family probably regards him as a chip off the old block.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17504451
Comments are invited.

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Re: B&W Film Development app


Analog photography deserves an analog app.

On 8/22/2013 3:16 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

Paper. I remember paper.

The app is a more flexible version of the same info. Just don't tack your 
iPhone to the darkroom wall.

stan

On Aug 22, 2013, at 12:18 PM, John wrote:


As I remember, it used to be available as a chart; a piece of paper you
could tack up to the wall that looked something like a spreadsheet.

On 8/21/2013 8:34 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

Mark C's recent Chicago gallery, mostly produced with Tri-X, and his
discussions about the brew he used to develop said film, reminded me
of a comment I have been meaning to make.

For the iOS, and possibly other mobile OS systems? there is an app
called Massive Dev Chart Timer. It looks like a compilation of many
sources of recommendations for what brew to use for how long with
what agitation for whatever type of film. And IIRC a built in timer
to time the agitations and total time. And IIRC a way to change
entries to your own preferred way of doing things. And a way to make
notes on e.g. your experience using HC-110 with Tri-X. If nothingThe app
else, it seems like a good start point for someone just coming to
film development or who has been away for so long that they don't
recall the parameters of a given film/brew combination.

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Re: PESO - At the Record Shop


I like his shirt. I had one like it many years ago, although mine had
long sleeves & French cuffs. Looked terrific with my skinny black suit.

That's the second time this week you've sent me off on a trip down
memory lane.

The guitar that guy was playing was a "Lawsuit" guitar similar to the one
I had stolen 30 years ago.

It was the first acoustic guitar I ever bought. I already owned a couple
of electric guitars by then.

On 8/22/2013 6:59 PM, knarf wrote:

I try not to show many coffee shop photos but this one interested me. There's a 
story in there somewhere:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/08/at-record-shop.html?m=1

Btw, Village Vinyl in New Toronto is an amazing place.  Open for less than a 
year, they have a great CD selection and (gasp) lots of vinyl.  Keith the owner 
is a great guy and if you're not buying you can sit down for a coffee and 
pastry and enjoy the tunes.

Islington and Lakeshore, for you locals.

Hope you enjoy this photo. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
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Geo tagging

2013-08-23 Thread Jens

Hi List
Please look at and comment: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157635199289372/

I have been geotagging utilizing the Pentax O-GPS1 unit.

But I can't seem to get the Compass direction right.
Any advice is highly appreciated. 
Thanks in advance.

Regards
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Re: PESO - At the Record Shop


The woman looks like this lady:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oHBG3ABUJU

On 8/22/2013 11:05 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Looks like they have issues.

Jack


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Subject: PESO - At the Record Shop

I try not to show many coffee shop photos but this one interested me. There's a 
story in there somewhere:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/08/at-record-shop.html?m=1

Btw, Village Vinyl in New Toronto is an amazing place.  Open for less than a 
year, they have a great CD selection and (gasp) lots of vinyl.  Keith the owner 
is a great guy and if you're not buying you can sit down for a coffee and 
pastry and enjoy the tunes.

Islington and Lakeshore, for you locals.

Hope you enjoy this photo. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO - A Lovely Afternoon for Painting


Did they leave any space where a landscape photographer might set up a
tripod?

It would be kind of bad manners to just set up right in front of them.
The tourists down front are probably transient enough not to be a
bother, but I might want to linger a bit longer.

On 8/22/2013 5:19 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Atop a minor local mountain with a splendid view:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17505433&size=lg


or

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17505433-lg.jpg


(K-5, FA 28/2.8)

Comments appreciated.

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Re: Giving up on Pentax (probably)


On 8/22/2013 1:01 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:


On Aug 22, 2013, at 12:39 PM, John  wrote:


On 8/22/2013 5:58 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:


I can certainly understand your feelings.  Frankly, I'd counsel waiting
until the next round of product announcements before doing anything that
involves transactions of large amounts of cash.


Good point - I guess that the F* and FA lenses would become more
desirable should a FF body come into existence. But how long do I
wait?



That's a question I've been asking for some time.

I've decided to give them until the end of 2013 to announce and I must
be able to get it IN MY HANDS no later than 30 Jun 2014.

And at that, I still expect it's going to be too little, too late.


Why exactly do you need full frame? Just curious.

Paul


I don't need a full frame. I *WANT* a full frame.

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Re: PESO: This is not a waiter

2013-08-23 Thread Bob W

Hoi oligoi

Hoi polloi = the many (close your eyes and think of 'poly-')

Oligos = few. Think oligarchy.

B

On 23 Aug 2013, at 17:58, John  wrote:

> If you're one of them asthete cognoscenti conno-sewer types, you must
> use the approved language when discussing *art*.
> 
> "Painted bronze" is what it's called out here amongst the great unwashed
> hoi polloi.
> 
> On a different note, I've found another failure by the internet.
> 
> None of the on-line dictionaries shows an antonym for "hoi polloi";
> plenty of synonyms, but no antonyms.
> 
> Had to come up with them myself. Bummer!
> 
> 8-D
> 
> On 8/22/2013 1:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>> I think the plaque said painted bronze, but that may be the same thing,
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:12 PM, John  wrote:
>>> I believe the accepted term in *art* is "polychrome bronze".
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/21/2013 9:49 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 
 Thanks, Cotty and Rick.
 
 The waitress is real, but the waiter behind her is not.  He is not
 exactly wooden, however, but painted bronze.  He is located in the
 patio of the Peacock Cafe at Grounds for Sculpture.
 
 The waiter is a work based on a figure in the background of Edouard
 Manet’s painting Chez le Pere Lathuille:
 http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chez_le_p%C3%A8re_Lathuille
 
 The waiter is one of a number of works at Grounds for Sculpture based
 on famous Impressionistic paintings:
 http://untappedcities.com/2013/01/18/grounds-for-sculpture/
 
 
 
 
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Yes, he seems a bit stiff; I imagine his personality has been described
> as wooden.
> 
> Though his family probably regards him as a chip off the old block.
> 
> Rick
> 
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Daniel J. Matyola 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Cc:
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:43 PM
> Subject: PESO: This is not a waiter
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17504451
> Comments are invited.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: VIVITAR 75-200mm

2013-08-23 Thread Alan C

These things are not that common over here. R100 is about $10, so not too 
much. The lens serial no. is 42027419 - perhaps you can identify the 
manufacturer from that?
Finally, you are right - it simply close focus, marked as 1.5x. Something 
about the fungus perhaps?


Alan

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Also if you paid more than $10 bucks for it you were taken.  You can get
a pristine copy of one of those Vivitar f4, f4.5 maximum aperture zooms
for between $25 - $35, even in A mount. They were generally well built,
but not the best optically.  In fact I think I'd rather have the later
Cosina made manual focus Series one lenses that seem to be generally
dismissed, unless the thing was literally given to me.

On 8/23/2013 11:04 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:
Vivitar sold a number of 70~75mm - 200~210mm lenses made by a number of 
manufactures, it would help to know which particular one you were talking 
about.  It could be that "Macro" just means close focus, (approximately 
1:4 magnification), at it's maximum focal length.


On 8/23/2013 5:57 AM, Alan C wrote:
Picked up a Vivitar 75-200mm f4.5 MC MACRO FOCUSING ZOOM for a song. It 
is an "A" lens & works well but unfortunately has a bit of fungus inside 
(which doesn't seem to affect it's performance). Is there any easy way I 
can get rid of it without stripping the lens? I read on the web that the 
spores can get out & "infect" other lenses so I don't know if that's a 
problem too. Lastly, maybe I'm dof, but I can't figure out how to get 
into macro mode. It doesn't "pop" like a similar Soligor lens.


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Re: Giving up on Pentax (probably)


I wonder how many of those who want Olympus to build a 35mm film format
camera once shot with Olympus 35mm film cameras?

They might see things differently than someone who came to Olympus after
Olympus committed to the 4/3 format.


On 8/23/2013 11:27 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Yes indeed. Olympus and Panasonic FourThirds and Micro-FourThirds
cameras and lenses were designed specifically for the format size.

That doesn't stop people from insisting that Olympus should build a
larger, 35mm film format camera, unfortunately.

Godfrey

On Aug 23, 2013, at 8:05 AM, "P.J. Alling"
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Aren't they already full frame?




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Re: Giving up on Pentax (probably)

I worked with Olympus cameras, half-frame and full-frame 35mm film models, 30+ 
years before the E-System and FourThirds existed. 

Godfrey

On Aug 23, 2013, at 10:43 AM, John  wrote:

> I wonder how many of those who want Olympus to build a 35mm film format
> camera once shot with Olympus 35mm film cameras?
> 
> They might see things differently than someone who came to Olympus after
> Olympus committed to the 4/3 format.
> 
> 
> On 8/23/2013 11:27 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>> Yes indeed. Olympus and Panasonic FourThirds and Micro-FourThirds
>> cameras and lenses were designed specifically for the format size.
>> 
>> That doesn't stop people from insisting that Olympus should build a
>> larger, 35mm film format camera, unfortunately.
>> 
>> Godfrey
>> 
>> On Aug 23, 2013, at 8:05 AM, "P.J. Alling"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Aren't they already full frame?
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Re: Giving up on Pentax (probably)


The upshot of it all is that "Shoeless Joe" *DID* say it wasn't so for
the rest of his life, not that doing so did him any good.

On 8/23/2013 11:15 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

I think it was the entire starting lineup exclusive of one man, that
threw the world series, thus becoming the Chicago "Black Socks", or
maybe "Sox", can't remember, no one seems to remember the name of the
guy not implicated, but everyone remembers "Shoeless" Joe Jackson.

On 8/22/2013 5:45 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

And the original is from a Chicago newspaper as well: "Say it ain't
so, Joe." Directed at Shoeless Joe Jackson when he was indicted for
throwing the World Series.

Paul via phone

On Aug 22, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Christine Aguila 
wrote:


Oh, dear!  Say it ain't so.  :-)  Cheers, Christine

P.S. I should probably explain:  When Michael Jordon retired from the
Chicago Bulls basketball team, a Chicago newspaper ran this
headline:  "Say it ain't so, Michael."  So I'm referencing that
headline.  Everyone in the city was so sad our shinning star was
leaving our shinning team.

Cheers, Christine



On Aug 22, 2013, at 1:49 AM, Chris Mitchell
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Hi all

The last straw has been that my DA* 16-50 has stopped auto-focussing
again. The internal motor was replaced a couple of years ago (so out
of warranty) and now it looks like there's another couple of hundred
quid to be spent on it. And yes, I've cleaned all of the contacts and
yes, my DA* 50-135 works OK on my only remaining K-7 body.

So the decision's nearly made to sell off the K-7, DA* 16-50 (either
repaired or as is), DA* 50-135, a lovely F*300 4.5 (the one with the
tripod mount), an FA-135 2.8 (probably my favourite lens ever) and an
FA-50 1.7. I'll put the proceeds towards a backup Fuji X body and get
the excellent 55 - 200 zoom to cover the long end of the range and to
sit alongside my growing collection of Fuji X primes. I'll keep a
number of MF lenses so may still be able to appear in the PDML
annual...

Any guidance on how to price? Or if anyone's interested in making me
any sensible offers, contact me off list and I'll get more details and
photos arranged and we can sort out logistics.

Yours sadly, Chris

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Re: PESO: This is not a waiter


Yes, thank you.

But it still doesn't explain why the on-line dictionaries failed so
abysmally.

On 8/23/2013 1:37 PM, Bob W wrote:

Hoi oligoi

Hoi polloi = the many (close your eyes and think of 'poly-')

Oligos = few. Think oligarchy.

B

On 23 Aug 2013, at 17:58, John  wrote:


If you're one of them asthete cognoscenti conno-sewer types, you must
use the approved language when discussing *art*.

"Painted bronze" is what it's called out here amongst the great unwashed
hoi polloi.

On a different note, I've found another failure by the internet.

None of the on-line dictionaries shows an antonym for "hoi polloi";
plenty of synonyms, but no antonyms.

Had to come up with them myself. Bummer!

8-D

On 8/22/2013 1:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I think the plaque said painted bronze, but that may be the same thing,
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:12 PM, John  wrote:

I believe the accepted term in *art* is "polychrome bronze".


On 8/21/2013 9:49 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Thanks, Cotty and Rick.

The waitress is real, but the waiter behind her is not.  He is not
exactly wooden, however, but painted bronze.  He is located in the
patio of the Peacock Cafe at Grounds for Sculpture.

The waiter is a work based on a figure in the background of Edouard
Manet’s painting Chez le Pere Lathuille:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chez_le_p%C3%A8re_Lathuille

The waiter is one of a number of works at Grounds for Sculpture based
on famous Impressionistic paintings:
http://untappedcities.com/2013/01/18/grounds-for-sculpture/




Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:


Yes, he seems a bit stiff; I imagine his personality has been described
as wooden.

Though his family probably regards him as a chip off the old block.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17504451
Comments are invited.

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Re: Musings about image formats

2013-08-23 Thread George Sinos

Hi Stan

The problem you present is one of the reasons I don't agree with the
"get it exact in the camera" philosophy.  My theory is that a lot of
that type of thinking was a result of technology limitations of
historic days.  There was a time when the only thing most people could
make from a large format negative was a contact print.  More recently,
many of us shot transparency film.  You exposed and framed to get it
exact in the camera because the original image was the only image.

Today, especially with digital, the image you capture on the sensor is
only one step in the processing chain.  When you don't know the final
use (and there may be many) you need to shoot pretty loose to give you
freedom to crop the final image.  I felt the same way when I shot B&W
35mm negative film.

You might want an 8x10 enlargement, a 5x7 or Square to more easily fit
a printed book page and something along a 16:9 ratio to be sent to
your TV screen.

None of those are the same aspect ratio as your 2x3 viewfinder or
original image.

When you don't know what your going to do with the final image, shoot
loose and crop later.

One of the cameras I use has an option to project guidelines for
different aspect ratios on the viewfinder image.  I seldom use the
feature because I usually don't know what aspect ratio I need for the
final image.  I use the full image size capability of the camera and
shoot loose.

gs

George Sinos

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On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Stan Halpin
 wrote:
> Rick Wormer recently posted a very nice PESO:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17505433&size=lg
>
> Comments he has received so far mention the good composition. I totally agree 
> - it is a boffo shot as presented.
>
> However, viewing it quickly brought to mind some mild struggles I have been 
> having. The recent workshop I attended yielded several shots I have been 
> motivated to print, and I have started layout of a Blurb book based on that 
> week's shots. The problem I am having is that many of my compositions, as 
> seen through the viewfinder and as captured by the sensor, and as viewed on 
> my monitor, are just about exactly the way I want them. But the format is not 
> an 8x10 nor 11x14 nor 13x17. So I need to print with too wide margins top or 
> bottom. Same problem with Blurb layouts. Looking at Rick's image, I cannot 
> see how he would be able to print the image in any standard format; any 
> cropping on the sides would damage/destroy his composition.
>
> Paper can be trimmed, mats and frames can be custom cut. But it is still a 
> nuisance.  I would love to have firmware in the camera that would show the 
> viewing area with an 4x5 ratio (or other selectable ratio) partial mask. Many 
> P&S cameras have a selectable format ratio when taking the photo;  I wouldn't 
> want that. But if I am thinking "this shot could make a nice print", I would 
> like a viewfinder reminder of the area(s) that would correspond to print 
> format ratios. If I decide on a different presentation mode later, I would 
> still have the full-frame image to work with, unlike with the P&S approach.
>
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Re: Musings about image formats

I dont worry about standard formats. I format image proportions suitable to the 
visual language I'm constructing and lay out book pages (or exhibition framing) 
to suit. 

Of course, there are those occasions when having a regular format throughout a 
particular exhibit or book makes good sense. But I don't need to be reminded of 
this in the camera viewfinder when I'm framing. I've gotten into the habit of 
framing a little 'loose' when making the exposure to ensure that I can set the 
format proportions as desired when I'm preparing to output finished work. 

In conflict with that, the Olympus E-PL1 that I picked up (so as to play with 
some oddball lenses) has been set to record and display square format since I 
got it. I'm anything but consistent, eh? 0;-) 

Godfrey

On Aug 23, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Stan Halpin  wrote:

> Rick Wormer recently posted a very nice PESO:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17505433&size=lg
> 
> Comments he has received so far mention the good composition. I totally agree 
> - it is a boffo shot as presented.
> 
> However, viewing it quickly brought to mind some mild struggles I have been 
> having. The recent workshop I attended yielded several shots I have been 
> motivated to print, and I have started layout of a Blurb book based on that 
> week's shots. The problem I am having is that many of my compositions, as 
> seen through the viewfinder and as captured by the sensor, and as viewed on 
> my monitor, are just about exactly the way I want them. But the format is not 
> an 8x10 nor 11x14 nor 13x17. So I need to print with too wide margins top or 
> bottom. Same problem with Blurb layouts. Looking at Rick's image, I cannot 
> see how he would be able to print the image in any standard format; any 
> cropping on the sides would damage/destroy his composition. 
> 
> Paper can be trimmed, mats and frames can be custom cut. But it is still a 
> nuisance.  I would love to have firmware in the camera that would show the 
> viewing area with an 4x5 ratio (or other selectable ratio) partial mask. Many 
> P&S cameras have a selectable format ratio when taking the photo;  I wouldn't 
> want that. But if I am thinking "this shot could make a nice print", I would 
> like a viewfinder reminder of the area(s) that would correspond to print 
> format ratios. If I decide on a different presentation mode later, I would 
> still have the full-frame image to work with, unlike with the P&S approach.

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Boris PESO 2013 #36 - Anat

2013-08-23 Thread Boris Liberman

Full frame or not, but SMCP A 50/1.2 is mighty fine lens...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/2013-36-anat.html

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Re: Boris PESO 2013 #36 - Anat

2013-08-23 Thread Bob Sullivan

Wonderful portrait, beautiful child.  Congrats Boris!  Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
> Full frame or not, but SMCP A 50/1.2 is mighty fine lens...
>
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/2013-36-anat.html
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
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Re: Boris PESO 2013 #36 - Anat

2013-08-23 Thread Marco Alpert

Lovely!

   - Marco

On Aug 23, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

> Full frame or not, but SMCP A 50/1.2 is mighty fine lens...
> 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/2013-36-anat.html
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
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PESO 2013 - 085 - GDG

I visited the San Jose Pride Festival last Sunday in the heat and over-bright 
sun. People were having a grand time. 

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9576188483/lightbox

Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated. 

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Re: Boris PESO 2013 #36 - Anat

What a beautiful face! She's a charmer, Boris. :-)

G

On Aug 23, 2013, at 11:23 AM, Boris Liberman  wrote:

> Full frame or not, but SMCP A 50/1.2 is mighty fine lens...
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/2013-36-anat.html


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Re: PESO 2013 - 085 - GDG

2013-08-23 Thread Bob W

Very nice shot indeed.

B

On 23 Aug 2013, at 19:59, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:

> I visited the San Jose Pride Festival last Sunday in the heat and over-bright 
> sun. People were having a grand time. 
> 
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9576188483/lightbox
> 
> Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated. 
> 
> Godfrey
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Re: VIVITAR 75-200mm

If it was manufactured before sometime the mid 90's the first two digits 
being 42 indicate that it was made by Bauer.  Now I always thought that 
Bauer was a third party lens seller who bought their products from 
someone else, I could be wrong about that.  By the way Mark Roberts has 
the Vivitar serial number ID chart on his Vivitar Series 1 web page: 
 I saved off a copy 
from the Third party Lens Megasite, but Mark's site is always up.


I haven't got a good solution to fungus, even if you were able to 
disassemble the lens to get to it.  There was a thread some time ago, 
(several years ago IIRC), on the PDML where someone, I forget who now, 
cleaned the fungus from a lens with saliva, which removed the fungus 
though the actual glass surface of the element had been etched.


It seems to me that you're going to a lot of effort for a 10 buck lens, 
on the other hand if you enjoy doing it why not.


On 8/23/2013 1:42 PM, Alan C wrote:
These things are not that common over here. R100 is about $10, so not 
too much. The lens serial no. is 42027419 - perhaps you can identify 
the manufacturer from that?
Finally, you are right - it simply close focus, marked as 1.5x. 
Something about the fungus perhaps?


Alan

-Original Message- From: P.J. Alling
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 5:20 PM
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Subject: Re: VIVITAR 75-200mm

Also if you paid more than $10 bucks for it you were taken.  You can get
a pristine copy of one of those Vivitar f4, f4.5 maximum aperture zooms
for between $25 - $35, even in A mount. They were generally well built,
but not the best optically.  In fact I think I'd rather have the later
Cosina made manual focus Series one lenses that seem to be generally
dismissed, unless the thing was literally given to me.

On 8/23/2013 11:04 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:
Vivitar sold a number of 70~75mm - 200~210mm lenses made by a number 
of manufactures, it would help to know which particular one you were 
talking about.  It could be that "Macro" just means close focus, 
(approximately 1:4 magnification), at it's maximum focal length.


On 8/23/2013 5:57 AM, Alan C wrote:
Picked up a Vivitar 75-200mm f4.5 MC MACRO FOCUSING ZOOM for a song. 
It is an "A" lens & works well but unfortunately has a bit of fungus 
inside (which doesn't seem to affect it's performance). Is there any 
easy way I can get rid of it without stripping the lens? I read on 
the web that the spores can get out & "infect" other lenses so I 
don't know if that's a problem too. Lastly, maybe I'm dof, but I 
can't figure out how to get into macro mode. It doesn't "pop" like a 
similar Soligor lens.


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Re: Giving up on Pentax (probably)

They might.  However the OM lens mount system never really evolved 
beyond the solid machined metal stage of the original K and M lenses.  
There was no Olympus lens series equivalent to the Pentax A lenses and 
though I have no direct experience with then, the few autofocus lenses 
that they produced are not supposed to be very compatible with the OM 
series.  A 24x36mm sensor Olympus DSLR would be a blank slate, not 
compatible with 4:3 or Micro 4:3 and most likely not compatible with 
classic OM mount lenses either.


Who would the buy it when confronted with the choice between it and the 
mature systems produced by Nikon, Canon and Sony in FF with APS-C as 
lesser backups, or for that matter Pentax and the various 4:3 micro 4:3 
and mirrorless APS-C sensor based cameras, all of which have fairly 
extensive lens lineups.


Of course that might not keep Olympus from producing such a thing.  
Pentax released the 645D.  Then again the 645D could build upon an 
extensive A and autofocus lens lineup from it's manual focus and 
autofocus film predecessors.


On 8/23/2013 1:43 PM, John wrote:

I wonder how many of those who want Olympus to build a 35mm film format
camera once shot with Olympus 35mm film cameras?

They might see things differently than someone who came to Olympus after
Olympus committed to the 4/3 format.


On 8/23/2013 11:27 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Yes indeed. Olympus and Panasonic FourThirds and Micro-FourThirds
cameras and lenses were designed specifically for the format size.

That doesn't stop people from insisting that Olympus should build a
larger, 35mm film format camera, unfortunately.

Godfrey

On Aug 23, 2013, at 8:05 AM, "P.J. Alling"
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Aren't they already full frame?







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Re: Boris PESO 2013 #36 - Anat

2013-08-23 Thread Stan Halpin


On Aug 23, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:

> Full frame or not, but SMCP A 50/1.2 is mighty fine lens...
> 
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/2013-36-anat.html
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Boris

Lovely child, excellent portrait. But I think credit is due more to the 
photographer than to the lens.

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Re: Musings about image formats

2013-08-23 Thread Aahz Maruch

On Fri, Aug 23, 2013, Stan Halpin wrote:
>
> However, viewing it quickly brought to mind some mild struggles I have
> been having. The recent workshop I attended yielded several shots I
> have been motivated to print, and I have started layout of a Blurb
> book based on that week's shots. The problem I am having is that many
> of my compositions, as seen through the viewfinder and as captured by
> the sensor, and as viewed on my monitor, are just about exactly the
> way I want them. But the format is not an 8x10 nor 11x14 nor 13x17. So
> I need to print with too wide margins top or bottom. Same problem with
> Blurb layouts. Looking at Rick's image, I cannot see how he would be
> able to print the image in any standard format; any cropping on the
> sides would damage/destroy his composition.

Haven't done anything about it yet, but I've been thinking some about
the same issues.  I just crop my images so they look good and when it
comes time to print, I'll print them with the properly-composed crop and
deal with either cutting or whitespace.
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Re: Boris PESO 2013 #36 - Anat

Beautiful, Boris. Like the soft focus. 

Jack



From: Boris Liberman 
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Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:23 AM
Subject: Boris PESO 2013 #36 - Anat


Full frame or not, but SMCP A 50/1.2 is mighty fine lens...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/2013-36-anat.html

Thanks.



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Re: Giving up on Pentax (probably)

Here's a little write upon on the OM-707/OM-77. Like so many first attempts at 
an AF SLR, it didn't succeed. 
 http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Olympus_OM-707_/_OM-77 

Olympus essentially had made the OM system into a high-end niche player, like 
the Leica R and Contax systems, by the end of the 1990s. All excellent manual 
focus lenses, a lovely pair of bodies (OM-4Ti, OM-3Ti), and not much market in 
an era when the AF SLR had become dominant. The E-System was specifically 
designed and optimized for digital capture, a no-holds-barred re-imagining of 
an entire system. Even the first out of the gate, the E-1, is a brilliant 
performer within the limits of its sensitivity. 

But the notion of a simple digital body like an OM-1n or OM-2 (or a Nikon FM2 
...  or a Pentax MX ...) with just what the original film cameras had except 
for a digital sensor and capture system is a still an often voiced desire by a 
lot of old curmudgeons (including me). A couple of people would buy it, but not 
enough to fund the development work that would be required to produce it. 

G

On Aug 23, 2013, at 12:30 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:

> They might.  However the OM lens mount system never really evolved beyond the 
> solid machined metal stage of the original K and M lenses.  There was no 
> Olympus lens series equivalent to the Pentax A lenses and though I have no 
> direct experience with then, the few autofocus lenses that they produced are 
> not supposed to be very compatible with the OM series.  A 24x36mm sensor 
> Olympus DSLR would be a blank slate, not compatible with 4:3 or Micro 4:3 and 
> most likely not compatible with classic OM mount lenses either.
> 
> Who would the buy it when confronted with the choice between it and the 
> mature systems produced by Nikon, Canon and Sony in FF with APS-C as lesser 
> backups, or for that matter Pentax and the various 4:3 micro 4:3 and 
> mirrorless APS-C sensor based cameras, all of which have fairly extensive 
> lens lineups.
> 
> Of course that might not keep Olympus from producing such a thing.  Pentax 
> released the 645D.  Then again the 645D could build upon an extensive A and 
> autofocus lens lineup from it's manual focus and autofocus film predecessors.
> 
> On 8/23/2013 1:43 PM, John wrote:
>> I wonder how many of those who want Olympus to build a 35mm film format
>> camera once shot with Olympus 35mm film cameras?
>> 
>> They might see things differently than someone who came to Olympus after
>> Olympus committed to the 4/3 format.
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/23/2013 11:27 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>> Yes indeed. Olympus and Panasonic FourThirds and Micro-FourThirds
>>> cameras and lenses were designed specifically for the format size.
>>> 
>>> That doesn't stop people from insisting that Olympus should build a
>>> larger, 35mm film format camera, unfortunately.
>>> 
>>> Godfrey
>>> 
>>> On Aug 23, 2013, at 8:05 AM, "P.J. Alling"
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Aren't they already full frame?

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Re: Musings about image formats

2013-08-23 Thread Darren Addy

Book page formats have (next-to) nothing to do with the aspect ratio
of the images put on those pages.
White Space Is Your Friend™.

On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Aahz Maruch  wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013, Stan Halpin wrote:
>>
>> However, viewing it quickly brought to mind some mild struggles I have
>> been having. The recent workshop I attended yielded several shots I
>> have been motivated to print, and I have started layout of a Blurb
>> book based on that week's shots. The problem I am having is that many
>> of my compositions, as seen through the viewfinder and as captured by
>> the sensor, and as viewed on my monitor, are just about exactly the
>> way I want them. But the format is not an 8x10 nor 11x14 nor 13x17. So
>> I need to print with too wide margins top or bottom. Same problem with
>> Blurb layouts. Looking at Rick's image, I cannot see how he would be
>> able to print the image in any standard format; any cropping on the
>> sides would damage/destroy his composition.
>
> Haven't done anything about it yet, but I've been thinking some about
> the same issues.  I just crop my images so they look good and when it
> comes time to print, I'll print them with the properly-composed crop and
> deal with either cutting or whitespace.
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Peso - so glad



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Re: Geo tagging

2013-08-23 Thread Paul Sorenson


Is one based on true north and the other on magnetic north?

On 8/23/2013 12:15 PM, Jens wrote:

Hi List
Please look at and comment: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157635199289372/

I have been geotagging utilizing the Pentax O-GPS1 unit.

But I can't seem to get the Compass direction right.
Any advice is highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

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Re: PESO - A Lovely Afternoon for Painting

It's a broad summit, but the place was pretty crowded that day (a Sunday).  
Mid-week it's much less so.

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Subject: Re: PESO - A Lovely Afternoon for Painting

Did they leave any space where a landscape photographer might set up a
tripod?

It would be kind of bad manners to just set up right in front of them.
The tourists down front are probably transient enough not to be a
bother, but I might want to linger a bit longer.

On 8/22/2013 5:19 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
> Atop a minor local mountain with a splendid view:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17505433&size=lg
>
>
> or
>
> http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17505433-lg.jpg
>
>
> (K-5, FA 28/2.8)
>
> Comments appreciated.
>
> Rick
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Re: Giving up on Pentax (probably)


On Aug 23, 2013, at 1:39 PM, John  wrote:

> On 8/22/2013 1:01 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> 
>> On Aug 22, 2013, at 12:39 PM, John  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 8/22/2013 5:58 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:
> 
> I can certainly understand your feelings.  Frankly, I'd counsel waiting
> until the next round of product announcements before doing anything that
> involves transactions of large amounts of cash.
 
 Good point - I guess that the F* and FA lenses would become more
 desirable should a FF body come into existence. But how long do I
 wait?
 
>>> 
>>> That's a question I've been asking for some time.
>>> 
>>> I've decided to give them until the end of 2013 to announce and I must
>>> be able to get it IN MY HANDS no later than 30 Jun 2014.
>>> 
>>> And at that, I still expect it's going to be too little, too late.
>> 
>> Why exactly do you need full frame? Just curious.
>> 
>> Paul
> 
> I don't need a full frame. I *WANT* a full frame.

Well, want makes sense. I kind of sorta want one, too, but not very bad. 

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Re: PESO - A Lovely Afternoon for Painting


On 8/22/13 5:19 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Atop a minor local mountain with a splendid view:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17505433&size=lg


or

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17505433-lg.jpg


(K-5, FA 28/2.8)

Comments appreciated.

Rick



Lovely shot, Rick. Scenes like this always compel me to go somewhere else.

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Re: Boris PESO 2013 #36 - Anat


sweet portrait Boris
ann

On 8/23/2013 14:23, Boris Liberman wrote:

Full frame or not, but SMCP A 50/1.2 is mighty fine lens...

http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/2013-36-anat.html

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Re: PESO - A Lovely Afternoon for Painting




On 8/23/2013 16:42, Doug Brewer wrote:

On 8/22/13 5:19 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Atop a minor local mountain with a splendid view:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17505433&size=lg


or

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17505433-lg.jpg


(K-5, FA 28/2.8)

Comments appreciated.

Rick



Lovely shot, Rick. Scenes like this always compel me to go somewhere else.

Hehe - I'd have left with you - but it is a nice shot!

ann





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Re: PESO: This is not a waiter

2013-08-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

I think that the real meaning of "hoi polloi"  is "peasant."

I come from a long line of peasants, and am proud to be one.

Dan
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On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:58 PM, John  wrote:
> If you're one of them asthete cognoscenti conno-sewer types, you must
> use the approved language when discussing *art*.
>
> "Painted bronze" is what it's called out here amongst the great unwashed
> hoi polloi.
>
> On a different note, I've found another failure by the internet.
>
> None of the on-line dictionaries shows an antonym for "hoi polloi";
> plenty of synonyms, but no antonyms.
>
> Had to come up with them myself. Bummer!
>
> 8-D
>
>
> On 8/22/2013 1:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> I think the plaque said painted bronze, but that may be the same thing,
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:12 PM, John  wrote:
>>>
>>> I believe the accepted term in *art* is "polychrome bronze".
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/21/2013 9:49 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


 Thanks, Cotty and Rick.

 The waitress is real, but the waiter behind her is not.  He is not
 exactly wooden, however, but painted bronze.  He is located in the
 patio of the Peacock Cafe at Grounds for Sculpture.

 The waiter is a work based on a figure in the background of Edouard
 Manet’s painting Chez le Pere Lathuille:
 http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chez_le_p%C3%A8re_Lathuille

 The waiter is one of a number of works at Grounds for Sculpture based
 on famous Impressionistic paintings:
 http://untappedcities.com/2013/01/18/grounds-for-sculpture/




 Dan Matyola
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 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Rick Womer 
 wrote:
>
>
> Yes, he seems a bit stiff; I imagine his personality has been described
> as wooden.
>
> Though his family probably regards him as a chip off the old block.
>
> Rick
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> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Daniel J. Matyola 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Cc:
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:43 PM
> Subject: PESO: This is not a waiter
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17504451
> Comments are invited.
>
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Re: PESO: This is not a waiter

2013-08-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

http://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the-opposite-of/hoi_polloi.html
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 2:03 PM, John  wrote:
> Yes, thank you.
>
> But it still doesn't explain why the on-line dictionaries failed so
> abysmally.
>
>
> On 8/23/2013 1:37 PM, Bob W wrote:
>>
>> Hoi oligoi
>>
>> Hoi polloi = the many (close your eyes and think of 'poly-')
>>
>> Oligos = few. Think oligarchy.
>>
>> B
>>
>> On 23 Aug 2013, at 17:58, John  wrote:
>>
>>> If you're one of them asthete cognoscenti conno-sewer types, you must
>>> use the approved language when discussing *art*.
>>>
>>> "Painted bronze" is what it's called out here amongst the great unwashed
>>> hoi polloi.
>>>
>>> On a different note, I've found another failure by the internet.
>>>
>>> None of the on-line dictionaries shows an antonym for "hoi polloi";
>>> plenty of synonyms, but no antonyms.
>>>
>>> Had to come up with them myself. Bummer!
>>>
>>> 8-D
>>>
>>> On 8/22/2013 1:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 I think the plaque said painted bronze, but that may be the same thing,
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


 On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:12 PM, John  wrote:
>
> I believe the accepted term in *art* is "polychrome bronze".
>
>
> On 8/21/2013 9:49 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Cotty and Rick.
>>
>> The waitress is real, but the waiter behind her is not.  He is not
>> exactly wooden, however, but painted bronze.  He is located in the
>> patio of the Peacock Cafe at Grounds for Sculpture.
>>
>> The waiter is a work based on a figure in the background of Edouard
>> Manet’s painting Chez le Pere Lathuille:
>> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chez_le_p%C3%A8re_Lathuille
>>
>> The waiter is one of a number of works at Grounds for Sculpture based
>> on famous Impressionistic paintings:
>> http://untappedcities.com/2013/01/18/grounds-for-sculpture/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Rick Womer 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, he seems a bit stiff; I imagine his personality has been
>>> described
>>> as wooden.
>>>
>>> Though his family probably regards him as a chip off the old block.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Daniel J. Matyola 
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>> Cc:
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:43 PM
>>> Subject: PESO: This is not a waiter
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17504451
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>>>
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>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: PESO - A Lovely Afternoon for Painting

Thanks, Doug!
 
Alas, back to Philly tomorrow...


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On 8/22/13 5:19 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
> Atop a minor local mountain with a splendid view:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17505433&size=lg
>
>
> or
>
> http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17505433-lg.jpg
>
>
> (K-5, FA 28/2.8)
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> Comments appreciated.
>
> Rick
>

Lovely shot, Rick. Scenes like this always compel me to go somewhere else.

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Re: Question for K5/K7 owners

Thanks guys, I suspected as much, it's a very poor system design to be
so noisy (electrically). There is a significant differential in the
noise levels between my K5 bodies so it does bother me, you can't have
noise without vibration.

On 24 August 2013 00:50, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> On 8/23/2013 8:33 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Rob Studdert 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm interested if your camera makes obvious noise when doing long
>>> exposures or during the sensor clean cycle?
>>
>> My K-7 has a slightly audible whine or high-pitched buzz when the
>> shutter is open.
>>
>> (I had always attributed it to the SR system, but upon further
>> reflection, I think it also happens when SR is disabled. I don't have
>> it with me to test right now.)
>>
> Due to the nature of the SR system even if SR is disabled the sensor shift
> system is actively holding the sensor in place.
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Re: How image rotation works

Cool article Larry

On 18 August 2013 09:07, Larry Colen  wrote:
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> http://datagenetics.com/blog/august32013/index.html
>
> tldr: with some clever shifting, you can save a times of the sin.
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Re: Peso - so glad

Like this Ann. I even feel the slant adds interest, but is not distracting. 
I would take down the glare on that center most white blossom. Pedal detail is 
virtually lost on my screen.
 
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Re: Geo tagging

The content of your images may be the answer, my unit fails miserably
to correctly detect direction when I'm in the proximity of broadcast
antennas.

On 24 August 2013 03:15, Jens  wrote:
> Hi List
> Please look at and comment: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157635199289372/
>
> I have been geotagging utilizing the Pentax O-GPS1 unit.
>
> But I can't seem to get the Compass direction right.
> Any advice is highly appreciated.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Regards
> Jens
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Re: reviews on the wirecutter.com

On 20 August 2013 14:26, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> The flat plane of focus is an idealized situation, few lenses actually have
> a rally flat focus plain. Most exhibit some curvature.

Indeed, and if I didn't use focus and recompose I'd rarely have
anything in focus in the vast majority of my shots. Still can't wait
for real AF but can't face shelling out cash for a pair of K5II

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This is very odd.

Suddenly I can't open Flicker pages.  I just get a blank screen.  I know 
it must be something simple but I must be overlooking it.  I tried a 
google search on Flicker pages not opening in Firefox and found a 
reference page on flicker, and of course it won't open. Any suggestions?


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Re: This is very odd.

Flickr is down at present. 

Godfrey


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> Suddenly I can't open Flicker pages.  I just get a blank screen.  I know it 
> must be something simple but I must be overlooking it.  I tried a google 
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Re: Peso - so glad




On 8/23/2013 18:57, Jack Davis wrote:

Like this Ann. I even feel the slant adds interest, but is not distracting.
I would take down the glare on that center most white blossom. Pedal detail is 
virtually lost on my screen.

Jack


Thanks, Jack

but.. Hmmm...
No glare here on my monitor either in photoshop or in firefox..
looks ok to me in that regard

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Re: This is very odd.

Ok, now this is just bloody freaking annoying.  I couldn't get anything 
from flicker to load using Firefox, so I decided to try IE for like the 
first time ever on this installation.  So Flicker's main page loads.  
I'm still at a loss as to why it isn't loading in Firefox, but figuring 
it's time to try something stupid, I copy value in the address bar from 
IE and past it into Firefox, now Flicker pages load, no problem.  I hate 
when this stuff happens.  I've fixed the problem, but have no idea what 
was wrong to begin with, and what actually fixed it!


On 8/23/2013 8:23 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
Suddenly I can't open Flicker pages.  I just get a blank screen.  I 
know it must be something simple but I must be overlooking it.  I 
tried a google search on Flicker pages not opening in Firefox and 
found a reference page on flicker, and of course it won't open. Any 
suggestions?





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Re: Peso - so glad

URL?

Paul via phone

On Aug 23, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> 
> 
> On 8/23/2013 18:57, Jack Davis wrote:
>> Like this Ann. I even feel the slant adds interest, but is not distracting.
>> I would take down the glare on that center most white blossom. Pedal detail 
>> is virtually lost on my screen.
>> 
>> Jack
> Thanks, Jack
> 
> but.. Hmmm...
> No glare here on my monitor either in photoshop or in firefox..
> looks ok to me in that regard
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Re: This is very odd.

Unfortunately coincidence between my actions and Flicker going down and 
coming back up makes perfect sense.


On 8/23/2013 8:25 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Flickr is down at present.

Godfrey


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Suddenly I can't open Flicker pages.  I just get a blank screen.  I know it 
must be something simple but I must be overlooking it.  I tried a google search 
on Flicker pages not opening in Firefox and found a reference page on flicker, 
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Re: PESO - At the Record Shop

Do they sell coffee in every shop, no matter what it's nominal actual 
reason for existence, in Toronto?


On 8/22/2013 6:59 PM, knarf wrote:

I try not to show many coffee shop photos but this one interested me. There's a 
story in there somewhere:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/08/at-record-shop.html?m=1

Btw, Village Vinyl in New Toronto is an amazing place.  Open for less than a 
year, they have a great CD selection and (gasp) lots of vinyl.  Keith the owner 
is a great guy and if you're not buying you can sit down for a coffee and 
pastry and enjoy the tunes.

Islington and Lakeshore, for you locals.

Hope you enjoy this photo. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO - Subtlety

Well same family at least, I thought most of the tweaks had to do with 
data speed.


On 8/23/2013 11:54 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:

On 8/23/13 11:40 AM, P.J. Alling wrote:

It's supposed to be the same sensor as the K20D.



Really? They must have tweaked it some, because I get a wider DR than 
what I remember from the K20. I know it's less erratic than the K20, 
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Re: Giving up on Pentax (probably)


I was just wondering what you were getting at because it almost made sense.

On 8/22/2013 8:12 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Damn spell checker. I'm not imposing a deadline.

Paul via phone

On Aug 22, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:


On Aug 22, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Tom C  wrote:


Paul Stenquist wrote:


I'm always mystified in regard to the urgency of FF. My camera works great. If I 
were a landscape photographer shooting wall-size murals I might think otherwise, 
but I don't plan on > going there.

Paul, this my cheeky, yet respectful response, and I know I don't need
to explain the benefits of a FF sensor to you.

If/when Pentax releases a FF body, and you purchase it, I'll pose the
same question back to you. :)

Yes, I'll probably buy it, and there are some benefits to a 24 x 36 sensor (my 
camera has a full frame), but the K-5 images are tough to beat. Just ask the 
photo editors at the New York Times. I would like a larger sensor, but I'm 
certainly not imposing a decline and losing sleep over it. That's just silly.

Paul

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Re: This is very odd.

2013-08-23 Thread Stan Halpin

Sometimes correlation DOES imply causality. You broke Flicker, then, with your 
gyrations between the two browsers, you fixed Flicker. The Flicker world is 
grateful to you. And in awe of your power.

stan

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> flicker, and of course it won't open. Any suggestions?
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Re: Giving up on Pentax (probably)

Well, I've changed position on a 24x36mm sensor, since it's unlikely 
that Pentax will release a camera that will allow open aperture metering 
with my K and M lenses, I realized I don't really care.  I get better 
quality images now than I got with 35mm when I do everything right so if 
Ricoh continues to make Pentax cameras with the best or near to the best 
APS-C sensor, I'm satisfied.


On 8/22/2013 8:44 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

If I were paying attention, I could probably recite the feelings about
a 24x36 sensor of just about every person on this list.
At this point about the only interesting thing about full frame sensor
Pentax discussions are new hat recipes.




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Re: Peso - so glad


Ah -
when Jack commented the URL got dropped...

here ya are ...

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2716040419_M6cB454/Medium

ann

On 8/23/2013 20:36, Paul Stenquist wrote:

URL?

Paul via phone

On Aug 23, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:




On 8/23/2013 18:57, Jack Davis wrote:

Like this Ann. I even feel the slant adds interest, but is not distracting.
I would take down the glare on that center most white blossom. Pedal detail is 
virtually lost on my screen.

Jack

Thanks, Jack

but.. Hmmm...
No glare here on my monitor either in photoshop or in firefox..
looks ok to me in that regard

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Re: Giving up on Pentax (probably)

2013-08-23 Thread Larry Colen

On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 08:47:45PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote:
> I was just wondering what you were getting at because it almost made sense.

Mark!

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Re: Musings about image formats

Stan,

Thanks for the compliment on the pic!

I get my prints done by Denver Digital Imaging (slideprinter.com), which 
consistently produces prints that match what's on my screen (they honor color 
space).  I can get 10 x 15, 11 x 16, 12 x 18, 16 x 24... aspect ratio is not a 
problem.  I order mats several at a time in my favorite sizes.

In short, not a problem.

Rick
 
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Rick Wormer recently posted a very nice PESO:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17505433&size=lg

Comments he has received so far mention the good composition. I totally agree - 
it is a boffo shot as presented.

However, viewing it quickly brought to mind some mild struggles I have been 
having. The recent workshop I attended yielded several shots I have been 
motivated to print, and I have started layout of a Blurb book based on that 
week's shots. The problem I am having is that many of my compositions, as seen 
through the viewfinder and as captured by the sensor, and as viewed on my 
monitor, are just about exactly the way I want them. But the format is not an 
8x10 nor 11x14 nor 13x17. So I need to print with too wide margins top or 
bottom. Same problem with Blurb layouts. Looking at Rick's image, I cannot see 
how he would be able to print the image in any standard format; any cropping on 
the sides would damage/destroy his composition. 

Paper can be trimmed, mats and frames can be custom cut. But it is still a 
nuisance.  I would love to have firmware in the camera that would show the 
viewing area with an 4x5 ratio (or other selectable ratio) partial mask. Many 
P&S cameras have a selectable format ratio when taking the photo;  I wouldn't 
want that. But if I am thinking "this shot could make a nice print", I would 
like a viewfinder reminder of the area(s) that would correspond to print format 
ratios. If I decide on a different presentation mode later, I would still have 
the full-frame image to work with, unlike with the P&S approach.

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Re: Peso - so glad

Good, Ann!.
In this case, my word "glare" does not mean an actual glow, but has the 
appearance of being nearly "clipped" or virtually lacking in visible detail. 
Usually something white. 

Jack


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On 8/23/2013 18:57, Jack Davis wrote:
> Like this Ann. I even feel the slant adds interest, but is not distracting.
> I would take down the glare on that center most white blossom. Pedal detail 
> is virtually lost on my screen.
>
> Jack
>
Thanks, Jack

but.. Hmmm...
No glare here on my monitor either in photoshop or in firefox..
looks ok to me in that regard

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Re: Peso - so glad

Pretty. I love gladiolus. Looking on my phone, so can't judge the white value, 
but certainly no glare.

Paul via phone

On Aug 23, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> Ah -
> when Jack commented the URL got dropped...
> 
> here ya are ...
> 
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2716040419_M6cB454/Medium
> 
> ann
> 
> On 8/23/2013 20:36, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> URL?
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>> On Aug 23, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/23/2013 18:57, Jack Davis wrote:
 Like this Ann. I even feel the slant adds interest, but is not distracting.
 I would take down the glare on that center most white blossom. Pedal 
 detail is virtually lost on my screen.
 
 Jack
>>> Thanks, Jack
>>> 
>>> but.. Hmmm...
>>> No glare here on my monitor either in photoshop or in firefox..
>>> looks ok to me in that regard
>>> 
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Re: Peso - so glad

Thats the trouble - all of us with different monitors - can only decide
based on one's own.

ann

On 8/23/2013 21:15, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Pretty. I love gladiolus. Looking on my phone, so can't judge the white value,
but certainly no glare.

Paul via phone

On Aug 23, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Ah -
when Jack commented the URL got dropped...

here ya are ...

http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2716040419_M6cB454/Medium

ann

On 8/23/2013 20:36, Paul Stenquist wrote:

URL?

Paul via phone

On Aug 23, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

On 8/23/2013 18:57, Jack Davis wrote:

Like this Ann. I even feel the slant adds interest, but is not distracting.
I would take down the glare on that center most white blossom. Pedal detail is
virtually lost on my screen.

Jack

Thanks, Jack

but.. Hmmm...
No glare here on my monitor either in photoshop or in firefox..
looks ok to me in that regard

ann

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Re: Peso - so glad

My work monitor is calibrated and brightness is matched to the ambient light 
level. Gotta have that for my publishing work. But my phone? Not so much.

Paul via phone

On Aug 23, 2013, at 10:00 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> Thats the trouble - all of us with different monitors - can only decide based 
> on one's own.
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> On 8/23/2013 21:15, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Pretty. I love gladiolus. Looking on my phone, so can't judge the white 
>> value, but certainly no glare.
>> 
>> Paul via phone
>> 
>> On Aug 23, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>>> Ah -
>>> when Jack commented the URL got dropped...
>>> 
>>> here ya are ...
>>> 
>>> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2716040419_M6cB454/Medium
>>> 
>>> ann
>>> 
>>> On 8/23/2013 20:36, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 URL?
 
 Paul via phone
 
 On Aug 23, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
 
> 
> 
> On 8/23/2013 18:57, Jack Davis wrote:
>> Like this Ann. I even feel the slant adds interest, but is not 
>> distracting.
>> I would take down the glare on that center most white blossom. Pedal 
>> detail is virtually lost on my screen.
>> 
>> Jack
> Thanks, Jack
> 
> but.. Hmmm...
> No glare here on my monitor either in photoshop or in firefox..
> looks ok to me in that regard
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Re: GESO - Chicago Scenes

2013-08-23 Thread Christine Aguila

Hey Mark, that's a great gallery.  Sites look familiar :-)!  Chicago looks 
great in black and white!  Cheers, Christine


On Aug 19, 2013, at 7:10 PM, Mark C  wrote:

> My wife and I spent a few days in Chicago earlier this month. I've been in a 
> film mood this summer and stuck to Tri-X and Arista Primium 400 (similar to 
> Tri-X).
> 
> Best snaps of the trip -
> 
> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/chicago-scenes
> 
> Mz-S, FA 20-35, FA 28-105 (power zoom model) and FA 80-320. The small bag 
> still had zoom for the Q and 4 of it's lenses as well! Though they were 
> little used. Film exposed at box speed (400) or pushed 2 stops to 1600.
> 
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OT: One step forward, two steps back.


Forward: I finally managed to fix my front porch light so it lights up
when I open the screen door.

I think I've fixed the place where gasoline was leaking from my
weed-whacker. I'll know tomorrow after it's dried & I put the fuel mix
back in the gas tank.

I found a repair shop where the guy says he thinks he can fix my
recently deceased monitor. I dropped it off this afternoon.

Back: The window stool molding I bought to fix my bathroom window is the
wrong size.

The man who promised to have my chainsaw ready by August 12 is on
vacation the whole month of August, will be back the day after Labor
Day. He hasn't even started work on it.

Sideways: I found another place that may have the correct molding for my
bathroom window, but they're closed for the weekend, so I can't call
them until Monday. They're 40 miles away, but they may have a dealer here
in Raleigh who has the molding in stock.

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Re: PESO: This is not a waiter


Thanks. Google didn't turn that one up.

On 8/23/2013 5:02 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

http://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the-opposite-of/hoi_polloi.html
Dan Matyola
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On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 2:03 PM, John  wrote:

Yes, thank you.

But it still doesn't explain why the on-line dictionaries failed so
abysmally.


On 8/23/2013 1:37 PM, Bob W wrote:


Hoi oligoi

Hoi polloi = the many (close your eyes and think of 'poly-')

Oligos = few. Think oligarchy.

B

On 23 Aug 2013, at 17:58, John  wrote:


If you're one of them asthete cognoscenti conno-sewer types, you must
use the approved language when discussing *art*.

"Painted bronze" is what it's called out here amongst the great unwashed
hoi polloi.

On a different note, I've found another failure by the internet.

None of the on-line dictionaries shows an antonym for "hoi polloi";
plenty of synonyms, but no antonyms.

Had to come up with them myself. Bummer!

8-D

On 8/22/2013 1:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


I think the plaque said painted bronze, but that may be the same thing,
Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:12 PM, John  wrote:


I believe the accepted term in *art* is "polychrome bronze".


On 8/21/2013 9:49 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:



Thanks, Cotty and Rick.

The waitress is real, but the waiter behind her is not.  He is not
exactly wooden, however, but painted bronze.  He is located in the
patio of the Peacock Cafe at Grounds for Sculpture.

The waiter is a work based on a figure in the background of Edouard
Manet’s painting Chez le Pere Lathuille:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chez_le_p%C3%A8re_Lathuille

The waiter is one of a number of works at Grounds for Sculpture based
on famous Impressionistic paintings:
http://untappedcities.com/2013/01/18/grounds-for-sculpture/




Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Rick Womer 
wrote:



Yes, he seems a bit stiff; I imagine his personality has been
described
as wooden.

Though his family probably regards him as a chip off the old block.

Rick

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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17504451
Comments are invited.

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Re: Peso - so glad

True.
 
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Thats the trouble - all of us with different monitors - can only decide 
based on one's own.

ann


On 8/23/2013 21:15, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> Pretty. I love gladiolus. Looking on my phone, so can't judge the white 
> value, but certainly no glare.
>
> Paul via phone
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> On Aug 23, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>
>> Ah -
>> when Jack commented the URL got dropped...
>>
>> here ya are ...
>>
>> http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2716040419_M6cB454/Medium
>>
>> ann
>>
>> On 8/23/2013 20:36, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> URL?
>>>
>>> Paul via phone
>>>
>>> On Aug 23, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>>>


 On 8/23/2013 18:57, Jack Davis wrote:
> Like this Ann. I even feel the slant adds interest, but is not 
> distracting.
> I would take down the glare on that center most white blossom. Pedal 
> detail is virtually lost on my screen.
>
> Jack
 Thanks, Jack

 but.. Hmmm...
 No glare here on my monitor either in photoshop or in firefox..
 looks ok to me in that regard

 ann



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Re: PESO: This is not a waiter


I'm descended from hearty yeoman stock myself; Scot-Irish, Dutch,
English, French & American Indian.

When one of my great-great...great-grandaddies got off the boat at
Jamestown, another of 'em was already waiting for him there on the shore.


On 8/23/2013 5:04 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I think that the real meaning of "hoi polloi"  is "peasant."

I come from a long line of peasants, and am proud to be one.

Dan
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On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:58 PM, John  wrote:

If you're one of them asthete cognoscenti conno-sewer types, you must
use the approved language when discussing *art*.

"Painted bronze" is what it's called out here amongst the great unwashed
hoi polloi.

On a different note, I've found another failure by the internet.

None of the on-line dictionaries shows an antonym for "hoi polloi";
plenty of synonyms, but no antonyms.

Had to come up with them myself. Bummer!

8-D


On 8/22/2013 1:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


I think the plaque said painted bronze, but that may be the same thing,
Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:12 PM, John  wrote:


I believe the accepted term in *art* is "polychrome bronze".


On 8/21/2013 9:49 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:



Thanks, Cotty and Rick.

The waitress is real, but the waiter behind her is not.  He is not
exactly wooden, however, but painted bronze.  He is located in the
patio of the Peacock Cafe at Grounds for Sculpture.

The waiter is a work based on a figure in the background of Edouard
Manet’s painting Chez le Pere Lathuille:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chez_le_p%C3%A8re_Lathuille

The waiter is one of a number of works at Grounds for Sculpture based
on famous Impressionistic paintings:
http://untappedcities.com/2013/01/18/grounds-for-sculpture/




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On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Rick Womer 
wrote:



Yes, he seems a bit stiff; I imagine his personality has been described
as wooden.

Though his family probably regards him as a chip off the old block.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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Comments are invited.

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Re: Geo tagging


Were they broadcast antennas? I thought they were power lines.

On 8/23/2013 7:03 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

The content of your images may be the answer, my unit fails miserably
to correctly detect direction when I'm in the proximity of broadcast
antennas.

On 24 August 2013 03:15, Jens  wrote:

Hi List
Please look at and comment: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157635199289372/

I have been geotagging utilizing the Pentax O-GPS1 unit.

But I can't seem to get the Compass direction right.
Any advice is highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Regards
Jens

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Re: This is very odd.

There's no 'e' in "Flickr". If I do a Google search for Flicker, the 
first two results I get are:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/flicker/

http://www.flickr.com/

On 8/23/2013 8:23 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

Suddenly I can't open Flicker pages.  I just get a blank screen.  I know
it must be something simple but I must be overlooking it.  I tried a
google search on Flicker pages not opening in Firefox and found a
reference page on flicker, and of course it won't open. Any suggestions?



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Re: This is very odd.