Re: Just for Bob
On Nov 5, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 09:41:28PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 5, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: ... Now, every frame is meaningful again. Shoot with a Polaroid SX-70 for a while. Every frame means another $3 spent. Good point! If I shoot large format every frame will cost even more! Surely my photos will be better, right? Nope, just more meaningful. Of course it might just mean that you are wasting both money and time. Shoot 8x10 Polaroid to find real meaning. ;-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Series of PESOs from our vacation in Holland
I also liked Geometry of Maas and Countryside. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Just for Bob
On Nov 6, 2013, at 3:02 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: On Nov 5, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 09:41:28PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 5, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: ... Now, every frame is meaningful again. Shoot with a Polaroid SX-70 for a while. Every frame means another $3 spent. Good point! If I shoot large format every frame will cost even more! Surely my photos will be better, right? Nope, just more meaningful. Of course it might just mean that you are wasting both money and time. Shoot 8x10 Polaroid to find real meaning. ;-) I shot some 4x5 Polaroid with my Speed Graphic back in the '80s. Great fun. Landscapes had a painterly look. Still have a polaroid back for a 4x5, but don't think film is available. And if it were, I'm sure it would be costly. Paul G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Just for Bob
Paul Stenquist wrote: On Nov 6, 2013, at 3:02 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: On Nov 5, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 09:41:28PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 5, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: ... Now, every frame is meaningful again. Shoot with a Polaroid SX-70 for a while. Every frame means another $3 spent. Good point! If I shoot large format every frame will cost even more! Surely my photos will be better, right? Nope, just more meaningful. Of course it might just mean that you are wasting both money and time. Shoot 8x10 Polaroid to find real meaning. ;-) I shot some 4x5 Polaroid with my Speed Graphic back in the '80s. Great fun. Landscapes had a painterly look. Still have a polaroid back for a 4x5, but don't think film is available. And if it were, I'm sure it would be costly. Costly, yes. But really, really meaningful! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Date clash
Bum. I just got this in the mail tonight from the nice people at CR Kennedy. Was all ready to don my camo. But I checked my diary. The rather nice restaurant in the Opera House is closing at the end of the year and I have a booking on the very same night. Nibbles and new K3, or substantial nibbles at Guillaume. If anyone goes to this, I hope you will post a photo essay http://gallery.mailchimp.com/cd5ae63206382fd74401b57fe/files/PENTAX_K3_BOARDING_PASS.pdf -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Series of PESOs from our vacation in Holland
On 6/11/13, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: After this link: http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/search/label/Vacation_2013 You would find a 10 PESOs (9 of which are x3) from our trip to Holland/Germany/Belgium this year. I don't think my photos hold any particular interest, but we've also chosen photos by Anat and by Galia, so you might want to have a look. Can't link to the pic directly, but the swans (cygnets?) in the last pic in day 8 is fantastic. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Just for Bob
On 11/6/13 6:59 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I shot some 4x5 Polaroid with my Speed Graphic back in the '80s. Great fun. Landscapes had a painterly look. Still have a polaroid back for a 4x5, but don't think film is available. And if it were, I'm sure it would be costly. Paul The Impossible Project offers Polaroid-like film, and it's is about $3 a pop for the SX-70 size. Meaningful indeed. I have an SX-70 around here somewhere and have seriously contemplated doing a few frames with it, just because. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO 2013 - 128 - GDG
Sometimes the camera's influence on a photo is very acute. This is never more obvious than when you're working with Polaroid cameras and films. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10709211404/lightbox This was taken with a 1960s era Polaroid Land 350. It took a bit of work to get it to function correctly with the currently available Fuji pack films … some camera surgery was required. This was the first successful exposure I made with it on the Fuji FP-3000b film pack. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Just for Bob
On Nov 6, 2013, at 6:47 AM, Doug Brewer d...@dougbrewerphotography.com wrote: The Impossible Project offers Polaroid-like film, and it's is about $3 a pop for the SX-70 size. Meaningful indeed. I have an SX-70 around here somewhere and have seriously contemplated doing a few frames with it, just because. Do it! It's a lot of fun and has a unique look. Shoot a couple of packs, not just one, as it is quirky and takes a bit of experience to figure out how to set the camera for it. Impossible Project is just ramping up to produce a new BW film for the SX-70. I think they have the new color film available now. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Just for Bob
On 11/6/13 10:48 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 6, 2013, at 6:47 AM, Doug Brewer d...@dougbrewerphotography.com wrote: The Impossible Project offers Polaroid-like film, and it's is about $3 a pop for the SX-70 size. Meaningful indeed. I have an SX-70 around here somewhere and have seriously contemplated doing a few frames with it, just because. Do it! It's a lot of fun and has a unique look. Shoot a couple of packs, not just one, as it is quirky and takes a bit of experience to figure out how to set the camera for it. Impossible Project is just ramping up to produce a new BW film for the SX-70. I think they have the new color film available now. G I do like the idea of it, that each is a one-off. I've also been in a photographic rut lately and need something to recharge the batteries a bit. Of course, just finding the camera involves safari into the dark and troublesome Camera and Computer Museum behind that door over there. I shiver to think, but it would be so worth it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re:PESO - Up There
I agree Frank, sometimes the color just makes it more real less abstract. There is more excitement in the color version. Start carrying yellow jerseys for the riders to put on. Nice photo, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 3 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 22:51:21 -0500 From: knarfknarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Up There Message-ID:2cdaed3b-c52b-4c9f-b86c-8745a8c09...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I have discovered that sometimes colour helps bring the subject out of the background. This might be one such case. A similar black and white rendering of a similar shot had the subject lost in the trees: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/11/up-there.html?m=1 Not the sharpest shot but the differential between subject and background makes it okay for me. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome Cheers, frank ?Analysis kills spontaneity.? -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2013 - 128 - GDG
Great expression! On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: Sometimes the camera's influence on a photo is very acute. This is never more obvious than when you're working with Polaroid cameras and films. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10709211404/lightbox This was taken with a 1960s era Polaroid Land 350. It took a bit of work to get it to function correctly with the currently available Fuji pack films … some camera surgery was required. This was the first successful exposure I made with it on the Fuji FP-3000b film pack. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: New photographic style - LDR!
OK, so Low Dynamic Range isn't really a new Photoshop technique or anything. But it kind of describes this photo. I new there was a good image in there, but it took me a long time to come up with a rendering I really like. http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7db06303.htm -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: New photographic style - LDR!
works for me Dave On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: OK, so Low Dynamic Range isn't really a new Photoshop technique or anything. But it kind of describes this photo. I new there was a good image in there, but it took me a long time to come up with a rendering I really like. http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7db06303.htm -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: New photographic style - LDR!
I love that, Mark. -- Walt On 11/6/2013 12:42 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: OK, so Low Dynamic Range isn't really a new Photoshop technique or anything. But it kind of describes this photo. I new there was a good image in there, but it took me a long time to come up with a rendering I really like. http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7db06303.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: New photographic style - LDR!
I like that a LOT, no acronym required. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: I love that, Mark. -- Walt On 11/6/2013 12:42 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: OK, so Low Dynamic Range isn't really a new Photoshop technique or anything. But it kind of describes this photo. I new there was a good image in there, but it took me a long time to come up with a rendering I really like. http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7db06303.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: New photographic style - LDR!
Great rendering indeed, Mark... Not sure about whether the Dynamic Range is indeed Low or not, but I just like what I see. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: OK, so Low Dynamic Range isn't really a new Photoshop technique or anything. But it kind of describes this photo. I new there was a good image in there, but it took me a long time to come up with a rendering I really like. http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7db06303.htm -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Date clash
On 6 Nov 2013, at 13:01, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: Bum. I just got this in the mail tonight from the nice people at CR Kennedy. Was all ready to don my camo. But I checked my diary. The rather nice restaurant in the Opera House is closing at the end of the year and I have a booking on the very same night. Nibbles and new K3, or substantial nibbles at Guillaume. If anyone goes to this, I hope you will post a photo essay http://gallery.mailchimp.com/cd5ae63206382fd74401b57fe/files/PENTAX_K3_BOARDING_PASS.pdf Try to get a picture of G I Joe and Scotty McNikon getting it on in the cruise bar. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: New photographic style - LDR!
I would be disturb by the thing on the right edge. But otherwise I have to agree, it looks really nice and well. Thomas On 6 November 2013 19:42, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: OK, so Low Dynamic Range isn't really a new Photoshop technique or anything. But it kind of describes this photo. I new there was a good image in there, but it took me a long time to come up with a rendering I really like. http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7db06303.htm -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: New photographic style - LDR!
I believe you have found it. I don't know what the original looks like, but this is excellent! -- Bruce -- Sent from Sony Tablet S Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: OK, so Low Dynamic Range isn't really a new Photoshop technique or anything. But it kind of describes this photo. I new there was a good image in there, but it took me a long time to come up with a rendering I really like. http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7db06303.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: New photographic style - LDR!
Don't, of course, know what you started with, but I think the LDR absolutely suits this image. Jack - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 10:42 AM Subject: PESO: New photographic style - LDR! OK, so Low Dynamic Range isn't really a new Photoshop technique or anything. But it kind of describes this photo. I new there was a good image in there, but it took me a long time to come up with a rendering I really like. http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7db06303.htm -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: New photographic style - LDR!
Beautiful scene and rendering, Mark. Looks quite painterly to me. Well worth deliberating over. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: OK, so Low Dynamic Range isn't really a new Photoshop technique or anything. But it kind of describes this photo. I new there was a good image in there, but it took me a long time to come up with a rendering I really like. http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7db06303.htm -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: New photographic style - LDR!
The same from me...:-) Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 6, 2013 20:11 Thomas Bohn thb...@gmail.com wrote: I would be disturb by the thing on the right edge. But otherwise I have to agree, it looks really nice and well. Thomas On 6 November 2013 19:42, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: OK, so Low Dynamic Range isn't really a new Photoshop technique or anything. But it kind of describes this photo. I new there was a good image in there, but it took me a long time to come up with a rendering I really like. http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7db06303.htm -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-3 First Shot and Impressions
Thanks for sharing. Nice to know :-) Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 5, 2013 04:29 Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: The UPS truck finally pulled up around 9 PM this evening - I was starting to worry that my K-3 had gotten lost. Open the box, popped on a lens, dropped in a spare battery, set the date and time (but forgot to save them) Within about 2 minutes the first shot was snapped: http://calarti.com/peso/IMGP0001.jpg K-3 and FA 50 f1.7 / 1/30th @ F2.8. I'm planning on taking another shot tomorrow :-) Impressions: 1. Slightly larger and noticeably heavier than the K-5, but feels great in the hand. The grip felt perfect. Build quality feels rock solid. 2. Quiet shutter, quieter than the K-5. 3. Rear screen is excellent. 4. Slightly different layout of the controls / buttons, but totally intuitive. Haven't looked at the manual yet, though I'm probably missing stuff if I don't. The biggest challenge was disabling auto ISO, which took about 20 seconds to decipher. 5. AF is significantly improved - faster, more precise, locks on the subject quickly. I was shooting in rather dim light and it did hunt a bit here and there, especially with the black cats. 6.Auto white balance is good but not perfect. 7. I notice noise at ISO 1600. I took the same shot (minus the cat) with the K-5 and notice noise in it too. They seem comparable, but one shot is not much of a basis for comparison. 8. Two 32 gig cards (I was lucky and got the free card deal from BW) show up with a nominal storage count of ~1200 DNG files. Given how conservative Pentax is with their storage estimates I expect actual file storage to be much higher. I won't get a chance to really run it through its paces till this weekend, but I'm excited. Looks like an excellent upgrade over the K-5, which is no slouch of a camera... Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I don't test cameras
Thanks for sharing Bill. The IQ of the K-3 is amazing at high ISO. I've been wanting this camera for years! Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 5, 2013 04:39 Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: With that in mind, I invite you to click the link below, for your viewing pleasure: WARNING: 12MP PAGE http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/k3k5/idonttestcameras.html Don't crank at me if your browser hocks a loogie. Anyway, it's fairly self explanatory. I had noise reduction set to off on both cameras. I downsized the 5% images by 50%, I downsized the K3 file to the same as the full K5 dimension, and then downsized it again by 50% to get the same length. The K3 image is a little taller than the K5 image. Images shot using a desk lamp for illumination, lens was the DFA 100/2.8 macro at f/8. The focus was about a third of the way from the trim ring to the tip. I thought the K5 was pretty good at high ISO. The K3 doesn't have to worry about high ISO performance. What this set of images doesn't show, because it can't, is how much more of a pleasure to use the K3 is over the K5. Everything about the K3 is better in terms of usability. I'm super impressed with this camera so far. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: New photographic style - LDR!
Lovely photo, a nice rendering. I am often amused when I read all the hubbub about “high dynamic range.” I spend a lot of my time in rendering figuring out what in the captured image is unimportant and how to get rid of it, more time than I spend trying to stuff more into the photo, whether it be levels or tones or gradients or whatever. This rendering you’ve used takes a moment and abstracts it into a photograph very nicely. It’s got a fine range of tones and colors in it, no more than necessary and not less. That’s what good rendering is all about. :-) G On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: OK, so Low Dynamic Range isn't really a new Photoshop technique or anything. But it kind of describes this photo. I new there was a good image in there, but it took me a long time to come up with a rendering I really like. http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7db06303.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: New photographic style - LDR!
OK, so Low Dynamic Range isn't really a new Photoshop technique or anything. But it kind of describes this photo. I new there was a good image in there, but it took me a long time to come up with a rendering I really like. http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7db06303.htm -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com I like it. Feels like grade 2 bw. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: New photographic style - LDR!
On 11/6/2013 12:42 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: OK, so Low Dynamic Range isn't really a new Photoshop technique or anything. But it kind of describes this photo. I new there was a good image in there, but it took me a long time to come up with a rendering I really like. http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7db06303.htm It just occurred to me what the image reminded me of -- only I think I like yours even better: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wpvSm7g_YhE/TCNxIz_uRII/Auo/3ac_DjkBjJo/s1600/07.jpeg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Date clash
Quoting Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au: Bum. I just got this in the mail tonight from the nice people at CR Kennedy. Was all ready to don my camo. But I checked my diary. The rather nice restaurant in the Opera House is closing at the end of the year and I have a booking on the very same night. Nibbles and new K3, or substantial nibbles at Guillaume. If anyone goes to this, I hope you will post a photo essay http://gallery.mailchimp.com/cd5ae63206382fd74401b57fe/files/PENTAX_K3_BOARDING_PASS.pdf Decisions, decisions But the two venues are just across the Quay from each other - seems to me that both shouldn't present too much of a challenge, although the camo gear might be a bit out of place at Guillaume. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: New photographic style - LDR!
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I am often amused when I read all the hubbub about high dynamic range. I spend a lot of my time in rendering figuring out what in the captured image is unimportant and how to get rid of it, more time than I spend trying to stuff more into the photo, whether it be levels or tones or gradients or whatever. Agreed. This is my attempt to rebel against the trends. :) Another note: This is one of those shots in which a passer by wandered into the scene and inadvertently improved the shot tremendously. I think without the person in there I wouldn't even have bothered working on the rendering the shot would have gone straight into my meh bin. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: New photographic style - LDR!
Sure beats a lot of HDR I've seen and I would like it even without the person in the photo. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I am often amused when I read all the hubbub about “high dynamic range.” I spend a lot of my time in rendering figuring out what in the captured image is unimportant and how to get rid of it, more time than I spend trying to stuff more into the photo, whether it be levels or tones or gradients or whatever. Agreed. This is my attempt to rebel against the trends. :) Another note: This is one of those shots in which a passer by wandered into the scene and inadvertently improved the shot tremendously. I think without the person in there I wouldn't even have bothered working on the rendering – the shot would have gone straight into my meh bin. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: New photographic style - LDR!
The passer by's rich red attire is what I would have chosen. Jack - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 1:11 PM Subject: Re: PESO: New photographic style - LDR! Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I am often amused when I read all the hubbub about “high dynamic range.” I spend a lot of my time in rendering figuring out what in the captured image is unimportant and how to get rid of it, more time than I spend trying to stuff more into the photo, whether it be levels or tones or gradients or whatever. Agreed. This is my attempt to rebel against the trends. :) Another note: This is one of those shots in which a passer by wandered into the scene and inadvertently improved the shot tremendously. I think without the person in there I wouldn't even have bothered working on the rendering – the shot would have gone straight into my meh bin. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: New photographic style - LDR!
On 06/11/2013 12:42 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: OK, so Low Dynamic Range isn't really a new Photoshop technique or anything. But it kind of describes this photo. I new there was a good image in there, but it took me a long time to come up with a rendering I really like. http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7db06303.htm I think we sometimes get too caught up in using the entire histogram. You've got a low key scene. Had you been shooting film, you would have made this print without thinking about it. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
New 20-40 DA Limited is official
http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/camera-lenses/HD_PENTAX-DA_20-40mm_F2.8-4_ED_Limited_DC_WR -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: New photographic style - LDR!
Looks like an example of excellent tonemapping. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: OK, so Low Dynamic Range isn't really a new Photoshop technique or anything. But it kind of describes this photo. I new there was a good image in there, but it took me a long time to come up with a rendering I really like. http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7db06303.htm -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New 20-40 DA Limited is official
That looks very nice! The 20-35/4 was my most used lens for a time on the *ist DS, until the DA21 and FA43 Limiteds supplanted it. An f/2.8 zoom with that range could likely be glued in place if the performance is up to snuff. Godfrey On Nov 6, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/camera-lenses/HD_PENTAX-DA_20-40mm_F2.8-4_ED_Limited_DC_WR -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
New Q Lens 08 is official (3.8-5.9mm) 17.5mm to 27mm (35mm equiv. FOV)
http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/camera-lenses/PENTAX_08_Wide_Zoom_Lens_for_Q-Series_Cameras#!product-highlights 49mm filter diameter (!) -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
I'm selling my K-m and Metz 48
I want to sell my current K-m camera and my Metz 48 flash. Does anyone know a site in Germany where I can do that, besides ebay? Also what a good price would be, currently I'm setting the price for the K-m at 210 euros and for the flash 150 euros. Incl. two sets of Eneloop batteries for both. The camera is five years old but only has made ~6000 photos during that time. I didn't use the flash often, a reason why I want to sell it now. Thomas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New 20-40 DA Limited is official
Interesting! DC auto-focus motor rather than SDM. H. Amazing that they even managed to shoehorn a motor of any description in there, let alone one with enough torque to handle the usual LTD buttered silkiness. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/camera-lenses/HD_PENTAX-DA_20-40mm_F2.8-4_ED_Limited_DC_WR -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New 20-40 DA Limited is official
On 6/11/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: That looks very nice! The 20-35/4 was my most used lens for a time on the *ist DS, until the DA21 and FA43 Limiteds supplanted it. An f/2.8 zoom with that range could likely be glued in place if the performance is up to snuff. That would look real cute on my X-E1 :-) http://tinyurl.com/nmptxq7 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: New photographic style - LDR!
On 6/11/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: OK, so Low Dynamic Range isn't really a new Photoshop technique or anything. But it kind of describes this photo. I new there was a good image in there, but it took me a long time to come up with a rendering I really like. http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7db06303.htm Works nice. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New 20-40 DA Limited is official
On 06/11/2013 4:20 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/camera-lenses/HD_PENTAX-DA_20-40mm_F2.8-4_ED_Limited_DC_WR About the same size as the 31 LTD and a bit lighter. I guess the improved high ISO performance of it's contemporary cameras makes up for the slow aperture to an extent. It doesn't have a lot of glass either. It has the same number of elements as the 31LTD, in fact. That lens, combined with the 15LTD and either the 70mm or 77mm lenses would be a nice easy to travel with kit. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New 20-40 DA Limited is official
On 6/11/13, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed: http://tinyurl.com/nmptxq7 PS that links to the DP Review page -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Q Lens 08 is official (3.8-5.9mm) 17.5mm to 27mm (35mm equiv. FOV)
Quoting Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com: http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/camera-lenses/PENTAX_08_Wide_Zoom_Lens_for_Q-Series_Cameras#!product-highlights Interesting, but my Q system is only used intermittently when I don't feel like lugging the K-5 around, so 500 bucks is a bit hard to justify. 49mm filter diameter (!) -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-50/500 vs. Q7 vs. MX-1
Since I want to sell most of my equipment I'm starting to think if an DSLR is really the right fit for me. K-50/500 has the advantage that I can still use my old nice 35mm lens and do photos like the last five years w/o much change. But it is as bulky as before and I won't just take it with me. The Q7 would be smaller, much smaller, I could just take it with wherever I go and it had interchangeable lenses so it would really like an DLSR but much more compact. The MX-1 would be compact and has really nice design, no interchangeable lenses but a tilling back display. All three can produce DNG files, all three will make nice photos I can put on the web, all three will really fit my needs. The only one who would like a bigger camera might be my big hands. Thomas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Q Lens 08 is official (3.8-5.9mm) 17.5mm to 27mm (35mm equiv. FOV)
Well, before the 08 the highest priced Q lenses have a street price of $296. I would expect the 08 to settle close to an actual selling price of $350 before very long. By the way, we've been interested to see the K-3 vs K-5/ii/iis image quality. Can anybody point me to a good comparison of the same for Q7 vs Q10? On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com: http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/camera-lenses/PENTAX_08_Wide_Zoom_Lens_for_Q-Series_Cameras#!product-highlights Interesting, but my Q system is only used intermittently when I don't feel like lugging the K-5 around, so 500 bucks is a bit hard to justify. 49mm filter diameter (!) -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Playing with the K-3
My camera showed up this afternoon. (Finally convinced BH that I didn't want to wait until the grip was in stock for shipping.) Been busy all day but got a chance to play for a bit tonight. Like the way the autofocus functions are controlled by the front and rear wheels when the button is pushed. Nice. Shot a few frames with the FA 35/2, since my 16-50 is still in Japan. This lens usually requires the most focus adjustment but seems pretty close on this camera. Was very pleased with the way the camera was able to focus in near darkness. Shot my scotch in near total darkness. Focus locked right on. ISO 51.200, f2.8, 1/15th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17588688size=lg My scotch with the bar lights on, shot at a more reasonable ISO 3200, f5.6, 1/25th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17588690size=lg And Grace doing her homework, ISO 3200, f5.6, 1/100th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17588691size=lg Very pleased with the autofocus using this screw drive lens. Will try it with SDM lens next. Autofocus fine tuning for all lenses on the weekend. Then we're good to go. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Down and Out
Not sure how this might be received, but I must admit I'm rather pleased at how it turned out: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/11/down-and-out.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Just for Bob
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 07:06:21AM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: On Nov 6, 2013, at 3:02 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: On Nov 5, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 09:41:28PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 5, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: ... Now, every frame is meaningful again. Shoot with a Polaroid SX-70 for a while. Every frame means another $3 spent. Good point! If I shoot large format every frame will cost even more! Surely my photos will be better, right? Nope, just more meaningful. Of course it might just mean that you are wasting both money and time. Shoot 8x10 Polaroid to find real meaning. ;-) I shot some 4x5 Polaroid with my Speed Graphic back in the '80s. Great fun. Landscapes had a painterly look. Still have a polaroid back for a 4x5, but don't think film is available. And if it were, I'm sure it would be costly. Costly, yes. But really, really meaningful! Somewhere around here I've got an 8x10 polaroid from 25+ years ago made on a digital film recorder connected to an Apollo workstation. (It's a ray-traced image I created while planning a kitchen remodel) CGI in-joke: There is a teapot sitting on the kitchen counter. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Down and Out
It works for me, Frank. It shows me a story, and does it with restraint. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:16 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure how this might be received, but I must admit I'm rather pleased at how it turned out: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/11/down-and-out.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Playing with the K-3
Was the 2nd one with AWB? Strong colour cast. Great results though! On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: My camera showed up this afternoon. (Finally convinced BH that I didn't want to wait until the grip was in stock for shipping.) Been busy all day but got a chance to play for a bit tonight. Like the way the autofocus functions are controlled by the front and rear wheels when the button is pushed. Nice. Shot a few frames with the FA 35/2, since my 16-50 is still in Japan. This lens usually requires the most focus adjustment but seems pretty close on this camera. Was very pleased with the way the camera was able to focus in near darkness. Shot my scotch in near total darkness. Focus locked right on. ISO 51.200, f2.8, 1/15th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17588688size=lg My scotch with the bar lights on, shot at a more reasonable ISO 3200, f5.6, 1/25th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17588690size=lg And Grace doing her homework, ISO 3200, f5.6, 1/100th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17588691size=lg Very pleased with the autofocus using this screw drive lens. Will try it with SDM lens next. Autofocus fine tuning for all lenses on the weekend. Then we're good to go. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Playing with the K-3
Yes, AWB. But the menus offer a choice of strong or mild correction in tungsten light. I have it set to mild. The pic of Grace was warm as well. But I corrected it in conversion. Paul via phone On Nov 6, 2013, at 8:41 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Was the 2nd one with AWB? Strong colour cast. Great results though! On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: My camera showed up this afternoon. (Finally convinced BH that I didn't want to wait until the grip was in stock for shipping.) Been busy all day but got a chance to play for a bit tonight. Like the way the autofocus functions are controlled by the front and rear wheels when the button is pushed. Nice. Shot a few frames with the FA 35/2, since my 16-50 is still in Japan. This lens usually requires the most focus adjustment but seems pretty close on this camera. Was very pleased with the way the camera was able to focus in near darkness. Shot my scotch in near total darkness. Focus locked right on. ISO 51.200, f2.8, 1/15th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17588688size=lg My scotch with the bar lights on, shot at a more reasonable ISO 3200, f5.6, 1/25th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17588690size=lg And Grace doing her homework, ISO 3200, f5.6, 1/100th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17588691size=lg Very pleased with the autofocus using this screw drive lens. Will try it with SDM lens next. Autofocus fine tuning for all lenses on the weekend. Then we're good to go. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Down and Out
On 06/11/2013 7:16 PM, knarf wrote: Not sure how this might be received, but I must admit I'm rather pleased at how it turned out: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/11/down-and-out.html?m=1 Rarely am I roused to comment on a picture shown to this group of friends by one of our friends. Mostly, this is for the best, and this would be one of those time when staying silent would be for the best. Sadly, I do not always serve anyones best interests, and this is going to be one of those times. First, a preamble. I don't pretend to get street photography, but I do feel that a good photograph will speak directly to me through my eyes, and I will understand it, at least on some level. Unfortunately for this photograph, it does speak to me, but in a whiny, I want to be edgy, but I come up short sort of way. This image screams Look at me, look at how clever I am. I have Mr. Urban Dog Walker and a down and out Hobo in the same picture, and look at how cleverly crooked I am framed. This is the picture that walks into the bar and no one will talk to because it has nothing to say, but keeps saying it anyway. This picture is like Boy George. Cool once to a mindset more interested in sizzle than steak, but just a talentless schmuck to those of us who cut our teeth on the real thing. Fuck, you couldn't drink this picture good. HAR!! bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Down and Out
Not my favorite of your photos, frank. I think it's trying a little too hard. Godfrey On Nov 6, 2013, at 5:16 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure how this might be received, but I must admit I'm rather pleased at how it turned out: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/11/down-and-out.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Down and Out
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 08:26:23PM -0600, Bill wrote: On 06/11/2013 7:16 PM, knarf wrote: Not sure how this might be received, but I must admit I'm rather pleased at how it turned out: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/11/down-and-out.html?m=1 Rarely am I roused to comment on a picture shown to this group of friends by one of our friends. Mostly, this is for the best, and this would be one of those time when staying silent would be for the best. Sadly, I do not always serve anyones best interests, and this is going to be one of those times. First, a preamble. I don't pretend to get street photography, but I do feel that a good photograph will speak directly to me through my eyes, and I will understand it, at least on some level. Unfortunately for this photograph, it does speak to me, but in a whiny, I want to be edgy, but I come up short sort of way. This image screams Look at me, look at how clever I am. I have Mr. Urban Dog Walker and a down and out Hobo in the same picture, and look at how cleverly crooked I am framed. This is the picture that walks into the bar and no one will talk to because it has nothing to say, but keeps saying it anyway. This picture is like Boy George. Cool once to a mindset more interested in sizzle than steak, but just a talentless schmuck to those of us who cut our teeth on the real thing. Bill your commentary on this photo was rude, offensive and uncouth. At least it was moderately entertaining to read. Fuck, you couldn't drink this picture good. Don't denigrate my ability to drink. Bill's colo(u)rful analysis aside, I think I see what you were trying to do, and why you (want to) like it, but it doesn't work for me. HAR!! bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: New photographic style - LDR!
me too... of course I'd like to see the original - you know me, nothing but trouble :-) ann On 11/6/2013 15:05, Jens wrote: The same from me...:-) Regards Jens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: New photographic style - LDR!
On 11/6/2013 16:11, Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I am often amused when I read all the hubbub about “high dynamic range.” I spend a lot of my time in rendering figuring out what in the captured image is unimportant and how to get rid of it, more time than I spend trying to stuff more into the photo, whether it be levels or tones or gradients or whatever. Agreed. This is my attempt to rebel against the trends. :) Another note: This is one of those shots in which a passer by wandered into the scene and inadvertently improved the shot tremendously. I think without the person in there I wouldn't even have bothered working on the rendering – the shot would have gone straight into my meh bin. yup ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Sample images w/ range of ISO's - K3 K5ii
It was raining today. Pretty much all day. I did a couple of shots (6400 and 51,200) at a local pub while out for lunch. Did a couple of shots each of the K-3 and K-5ii sitting side by side and the AF360FGZ and the new AF540FGZii sitting side by side. Then I did a few series of a still life with both cameras, repeated with and without NR turned on in the camera. Lighting courtesy of moderately dark rain clouds. The images may be viewed as follows: I put the whole batch, full size DNGs, in my Dropbox. Also there is the K-3 manual and an index page that describes ISO camera NR On/Off for each image. (Included below as well). Full size jpgs exported from Lightroom can be seen on my Zenfolio site. Also there you can see 900x900 close-ups from each of the full-size images. Oh, and in addition to the ISO series, I did an in-camera HDR with both cameras; the K-5 only works on jpgs, the K-3 HDR works with RAW. Cameras mounted on a copy stand, natural lighting, remote shutter activation with mirror lockup. You'll note that note all cells are filled in in the table below. So, I screwed up. Shoot me. Dropbox: DNGs https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b814cy2z86knd9p/0TOLBhvJmB Zenfolio: Large jpegs and smaller close-ups http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p400348830 Index: K3 vs K5ii Preliminary ISO tests: Image File Names NR Off NR On K-3 K-5ii K-3 K-5ii ISO100 A0020 6017A0026 6022 ISO800 A0021 6018A0027 6022 ISO 6400A0022 6019A0028 6024 ISO 25600 6020 6025 ISO 51200 A0024 6021A0029 60026 K-5 Incamera HDR (jpg) 6027 K-3 In-camera HDR (DNG) A0042 K3 K5ii pictures B0369-0371 AF360 FGZ AF540 FGZii picturesB0372-0373 I haven't actually looked at these images in any detail yet. I can verify that there is more apparent noise at higher ISO's. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-50/500 vs. Q7 vs. MX-1
Have you considered m4/3? Much better IQ than Q and not much heavier IMO. You are already possibly willing to forgo a viewfinder, so why not a pen or something? On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Thomas Bohn thb...@gmail.com wrote: Since I want to sell most of my equipment I'm starting to think if an DSLR is really the right fit for me. K-50/500 has the advantage that I can still use my old nice 35mm lens and do photos like the last five years w/o much change. But it is as bulky as before and I won't just take it with me. The Q7 would be smaller, much smaller, I could just take it with wherever I go and it had interchangeable lenses so it would really like an DLSR but much more compact. The MX-1 would be compact and has really nice design, no interchangeable lenses but a tilling back display. All three can produce DNG files, all three will make nice photos I can put on the web, all three will really fit my needs. The only one who would like a bigger camera might be my big hands. Thomas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sample images w/ range of ISO's - K3 K5ii
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 10:25:30PM -0500, Stan Halpin wrote: It was raining today. Pretty much all day. I did a couple of shots (6400 and 51,200) at a local pub while out for lunch. Did a couple of shots each of the K-3 and K-5ii sitting side by side and the AF360FGZ and the new AF540FGZii sitting side by side. Then I did a few series of a still life with both cameras, repeated with and without NR turned on in the camera. Lighting courtesy of moderately dark rain clouds. I don't quite understand the layout of the jpegs. Are the K-5 photos the ones with just ISO in the title? The images may be viewed as follows: I put the whole batch, full size DNGs, in my Dropbox. Also there is the K-3 manual and an index page that describes ISO camera NR On/Off for each image. (Included below as well). Full size jpgs exported from Lightroom can be seen on my Zenfolio site. Also there you can see 900x900 close-ups from each of the full-size images. Oh, and in addition to the ISO series, I did an in-camera HDR with both cameras; the K-5 only works on jpgs, the K-3 HDR works with RAW. Cameras mounted on a copy stand, natural lighting, remote shutter activation with mirror lockup. You'll note that note all cells are filled in in the table below. So, I screwed up. Shoot me. Dropbox: DNGs https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b814cy2z86knd9p/0TOLBhvJmB Zenfolio: Large jpegs and smaller close-ups http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p400348830 Index: K3 vs K5ii Preliminary ISO tests: Image File Names NR Off NR On K-3 K-5ii K-3 K-5ii ISO100A0020 6017A0026 6022 ISO800A0021 6018A0027 6022 ISO 6400 A0022 6019A0028 6024 ISO 25600 6020 6025 ISO 51200 A0024 6021A0029 60026 K-5 Incamera HDR (jpg)6027 K-3 In-camera HDR (DNG) A0042 K3 K5ii picturesB0369-0371 AF360 FGZ AF540 FGZii pictures B0372-0373 I haven't actually looked at these images in any detail yet. I can verify that there is more apparent noise at higher ISO's. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Down and Out
On 06/11/2013 9:17 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 08:26:23PM -0600, Bill wrote: On 06/11/2013 7:16 PM, knarf wrote: Not sure how this might be received, but I must admit I'm rather pleased at how it turned out: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/11/down-and-out.html?m=1 Rarely am I roused to comment on a picture shown to this group of friends by one of our friends. Mostly, this is for the best, and this would be one of those time when staying silent would be for the best. Sadly, I do not always serve anyones best interests, and this is going to be one of those times. First, a preamble. I don't pretend to get street photography, but I do feel that a good photograph will speak directly to me through my eyes, and I will understand it, at least on some level. Unfortunately for this photograph, it does speak to me, but in a whiny, I want to be edgy, but I come up short sort of way. This image screams Look at me, look at how clever I am. I have Mr. Urban Dog Walker and a down and out Hobo in the same picture, and look at how cleverly crooked I am framed. This is the picture that walks into the bar and no one will talk to because it has nothing to say, but keeps saying it anyway. This picture is like Boy George. Cool once to a mindset more interested in sizzle than steak, but just a talentless schmuck to those of us who cut our teeth on the real thing. Bill your commentary on this photo was rude, offensive and uncouth. At least it was moderately entertaining to read. It's the best you get after a bottle of Scotch. Fuck, you couldn't drink this picture good. Don't denigrate my ability to drink. I don't really think I have. This picture is that bad. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sample images w/ range of ISO's - K3 K5ii
Yes, if the title doesn't say K-3, then that sample image was with the K-5ii. Somewhere, I think UpperRight corner, there is a hotspot: a mouseover pops an option to view the exif to get a little more info . . . On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 10:25:30PM -0500, Stan Halpin wrote: It was raining today. Pretty much all day. I did a couple of shots (6400 and 51,200) at a local pub while out for lunch. Did a couple of shots each of the K-3 and K-5ii sitting side by side and the AF360FGZ and the new AF540FGZii sitting side by side. Then I did a few series of a still life with both cameras, repeated with and without NR turned on in the camera. Lighting courtesy of moderately dark rain clouds. I don't quite understand the layout of the jpegs. Are the K-5 photos the ones with just ISO in the title? The images may be viewed as follows: I put the whole batch, full size DNGs, in my Dropbox. Also there is the K-3 manual and an index page that describes ISO camera NR On/Off for each image. (Included below as well). Full size jpgs exported from Lightroom can be seen on my Zenfolio site. Also there you can see 900x900 close-ups from each of the full-size images. Oh, and in addition to the ISO series, I did an in-camera HDR with both cameras; the K-5 only works on jpgs, the K-3 HDR works with RAW. Cameras mounted on a copy stand, natural lighting, remote shutter activation with mirror lockup. You'll note that note all cells are filled in in the table below. So, I screwed up. Shoot me. Dropbox: DNGs https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b814cy2z86knd9p/0TOLBhvJmB Zenfolio: Large jpegs and smaller close-ups http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p400348830 Index: K3 vs K5ii Preliminary ISO tests: Image File Names NR Off NR On K-3 K-5ii K-3 K-5ii ISO100 A0020 6017A0026 6022 ISO800 A0021 6018A0027 6022 ISO 6400 A0022 6019A0028 6024 ISO 256006020 6025 ISO 51200A0024 6021A0029 60026 K-5 Incamera HDR (jpg) 6027 K-3 In-camera HDR(DNG) A0042 K3 K5ii pictures B0369-0371 AF360 FGZ AF540 FGZii pictures B0372-0373 I haven't actually looked at these images in any detail yet. I can verify that there is more apparent noise at higher ISO's. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sample images w/ range of ISO's - K3 K5ii
Except the two in the bar are with the K-3 even though the title doesn't say that. On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Yes, if the title doesn't say K-3, then that sample image was with the K-5ii. Somewhere, I think UpperRight corner, there is a hotspot: a mouseover pops an option to view the exif to get a little more info . . . On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 10:25:30PM -0500, Stan Halpin wrote: It was raining today. Pretty much all day. I did a couple of shots (6400 and 51,200) at a local pub while out for lunch. Did a couple of shots each of the K-3 and K-5ii sitting side by side and the AF360FGZ and the new AF540FGZii sitting side by side. Then I did a few series of a still life with both cameras, repeated with and without NR turned on in the camera. Lighting courtesy of moderately dark rain clouds. I don't quite understand the layout of the jpegs. Are the K-5 photos the ones with just ISO in the title? The images may be viewed as follows: I put the whole batch, full size DNGs, in my Dropbox. Also there is the K-3 manual and an index page that describes ISO camera NR On/Off for each image. (Included below as well). Full size jpgs exported from Lightroom can be seen on my Zenfolio site. Also there you can see 900x900 close-ups from each of the full-size images. Oh, and in addition to the ISO series, I did an in-camera HDR with both cameras; the K-5 only works on jpgs, the K-3 HDR works with RAW. Cameras mounted on a copy stand, natural lighting, remote shutter activation with mirror lockup. You'll note that note all cells are filled in in the table below. So, I screwed up. Shoot me. Dropbox: DNGs https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b814cy2z86knd9p/0TOLBhvJmB Zenfolio: Large jpegs and smaller close-ups http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p400348830 Index: K3 vs K5ii Preliminary ISO tests: Image File Names NR Off NR On K-3 K-5ii K-3 K-5ii ISO100 A0020 6017A0026 6022 ISO800 A0021 6018A0027 6022 ISO 6400A0022 6019A0028 6024 ISO 25600 6020 6025 ISO 51200 A0024 6021A0029 60026 K-5 Incamera HDR (jpg) 6027 K-3 In-camera HDR (DNG) A0042 K3 K5ii pictures B0369-0371 AF360 FGZ AF540 FGZii picturesB0372-0373 I haven't actually looked at these images in any detail yet. I can verify that there is more apparent noise at higher ISO's. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sample images w/ range of ISO's - K3 K5ii
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 10:43:53PM -0500, Stan Halpin wrote: Except the two in the bar are with the K-3 even though the title doesn't say that. The 51,200 shot in the bar is surprisingly usable. Looking at the tight crops of 51K it looks rather rough. There's a lesson there about not seeing the photo for the pixels. On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Yes, if the title doesn't say K-3, then that sample image was with the K-5ii. Somewhere, I think UpperRight corner, there is a hotspot: a mouseover pops an option to view the exif to get a little more info . . . On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 10:25:30PM -0500, Stan Halpin wrote: It was raining today. Pretty much all day. I did a couple of shots (6400 and 51,200) at a local pub while out for lunch. Did a couple of shots each of the K-3 and K-5ii sitting side by side and the AF360FGZ and the new AF540FGZii sitting side by side. Then I did a few series of a still life with both cameras, repeated with and without NR turned on in the camera. Lighting courtesy of moderately dark rain clouds. I don't quite understand the layout of the jpegs. Are the K-5 photos the ones with just ISO in the title? The images may be viewed as follows: I put the whole batch, full size DNGs, in my Dropbox. Also there is the K-3 manual and an index page that describes ISO camera NR On/Off for each image. (Included below as well). Full size jpgs exported from Lightroom can be seen on my Zenfolio site. Also there you can see 900x900 close-ups from each of the full-size images. Oh, and in addition to the ISO series, I did an in-camera HDR with both cameras; the K-5 only works on jpgs, the K-3 HDR works with RAW. Cameras mounted on a copy stand, natural lighting, remote shutter activation with mirror lockup. You'll note that note all cells are filled in in the table below. So, I screwed up. Shoot me. Dropbox: DNGs https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b814cy2z86knd9p/0TOLBhvJmB Zenfolio: Large jpegs and smaller close-ups http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p400348830 Index: K3 vs K5ii Preliminary ISO tests: Image File Names NR Off NR On K-3 K-5ii K-3 K-5ii ISO100A0020 6017A0026 6022 ISO800A0021 6018A0027 6022 ISO 6400 A0022 6019A0028 6024 ISO 25600 6020 6025 ISO 51200 A0024 6021A0029 60026 K-5 Incamera HDR (jpg)6027 K-3 In-camera HDR (DNG) A0042 K3 K5ii picturesB0369-0371 AF360 FGZ AF540 FGZii pictures B0372-0373 I haven't actually looked at these images in any detail yet. I can verify that there is more apparent noise at higher ISO's. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Q Lens 08 is official (3.8-5.9mm) 17.5mm to 27mm (35mm equiv. FOV)
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM You can compare images here. The Q7 is noticeably sharper and resolves more fine detail than the original Q. There wasn't hardly much difference between the Q and Q10 in terms of IQ. It higher ISOs the Q7 gets probably a stop better. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, before the 08 the highest priced Q lenses have a street price of $296. I would expect the 08 to settle close to an actual selling price of $350 before very long. By the way, we've been interested to see the K-3 vs K-5/ii/iis image quality. Can anybody point me to a good comparison of the same for Q7 vs Q10? On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com: http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/camera-lenses/PENTAX_08_Wide_Zoom_Lens_for_Q-Series_Cameras#!product-highlights Interesting, but my Q system is only used intermittently when I don't feel like lugging the K-5 around, so 500 bucks is a bit hard to justify. 49mm filter diameter (!) -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
SV: Your opinion on mr Rowell?
Dave, You can buy a soft-cover reprint at the mountainlight webpage. I flipped through it, and the print quality is better than the original; I have a battered copy aquired at a second hand bookstore. Jostein -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: David Mann Dato: 5. november 2013 06:08 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Your opinion on mr Rowell? On Nov 5, 2013, at 4:47 pm, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/11/2013 7:49 PM, Jack Davis wrote: I thought Galen to be a Nikon bigot and employed a swaggering literary style. I wrote and told him that some years prior to his death. Galen Rowell is dead? That's very sad. He was a good photographer. Yes, both he and his wife were killed in a light-plane crash several years ago. IIRC something went wrong during landing. I'm another fan of his... I borrowed Mountain Light from the library a long time ago and decided to buy a copy, only to find that it was out of print. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sample images w/ range of ISO's - K3 K5ii
On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 10:43:53PM -0500, Stan Halpin wrote: Except the two in the bar are with the K-3 even though the title doesn't say that. The 51,200 shot in the bar is surprisingly usable. Looking at the tight crops of 51K it looks rather rough. There's a lesson there about not seeing the photo for the pixels. Right! I just went back and looked at my on-line image, K-3 at 51200: http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p400348830/h3fa48447#h3107f624 Considering that I did zero nada nothing to process the images, I think I would be comfortable shooting at this speed if I need to. Tomorrow I may play with LR noise reduction, etc. but that is part of why I put the DNG images into Dropbox - let others see what they could do with these raw materials and some processing tricks . . . [Pun intended.] stan On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Yes, if the title doesn't say K-3, then that sample image was with the K-5ii. Somewhere, I think UpperRight corner, there is a hotspot: a mouseover pops an option to view the exif to get a little more info . . . On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 10:25:30PM -0500, Stan Halpin wrote: It was raining today. Pretty much all day. I did a couple of shots (6400 and 51,200) at a local pub while out for lunch. Did a couple of shots each of the K-3 and K-5ii sitting side by side and the AF360FGZ and the new AF540FGZii sitting side by side. Then I did a few series of a still life with both cameras, repeated with and without NR turned on in the camera. Lighting courtesy of moderately dark rain clouds. I don't quite understand the layout of the jpegs. Are the K-5 photos the ones with just ISO in the title? The images may be viewed as follows: I put the whole batch, full size DNGs, in my Dropbox. Also there is the K-3 manual and an index page that describes ISO camera NR On/Off for each image. (Included below as well). Full size jpgs exported from Lightroom can be seen on my Zenfolio site. Also there you can see 900x900 close-ups from each of the full-size images. Oh, and in addition to the ISO series, I did an in-camera HDR with both cameras; the K-5 only works on jpgs, the K-3 HDR works with RAW. Cameras mounted on a copy stand, natural lighting, remote shutter activation with mirror lockup. You'll note that note all cells are filled in in the table below. So, I screwed up. Shoot me. Dropbox: DNGs https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b814cy2z86knd9p/0TOLBhvJmB Zenfolio: Large jpegs and smaller close-ups http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p400348830 Index: K3 vs K5ii Preliminary ISO tests: Image File Names NR Off NR On K-3 K-5ii K-3 K-5ii ISO100A0020 6017A0026 6022 ISO800A0021 6018A0027 6022 ISO 6400 A0022 6019A0028 6024 ISO 25600 6020 6025 ISO 51200 A0024 6021A0029 60026 K-5 Incamera HDR (jpg)6027 K-3 In-camera HDR (DNG) A0042 K3 K5ii picturesB0369-0371 AF360 FGZ AF540 FGZii pictures B0372-0373 I haven't actually looked at these images in any detail yet. I can verify that there is more apparent noise at higher ISO's. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Calaveras Big Tree Park
Thanks to all who took time to comment or peek at the images from the Rim Fire. It was quite a change to walk among the trees in this forest. The scent from the incense cedars were fantastic. http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2013/11/calaveras-big-tree-park.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re:PESO - Up There
Dave, Don, thanks for the comments. Really appreciate it. Cheers, frank Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: I agree Frank, sometimes the color just makes it more real less abstract. There is more excitement in the color version. Start carrying yellow jerseys for the riders to put on. Nice photo, pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 3 Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 22:51:21 -0500 From: knarfknarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Up There Message-ID:2cdaed3b-c52b-4c9f-b86c-8745a8c09...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I have discovered that sometimes colour helps bring the subject out of the background. This might be one such case. A similar black and white rendering of a similar shot had the subject lost in the trees: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/11/up-there.html?m=1 Not the sharpest shot but the differential between subject and background makes it okay for me. Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome Cheers, frank ?Analysis kills spontaneity.? -- Henri-Frederic Amiel “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2013 - 128 - GDG
Love it! :-) cheers, frank Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote: Sometimes the camera's influence on a photo is very acute. This is never more obvious than when you're working with Polaroid cameras and films. http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/10709211404/lightbox This was taken with a 1960s era Polaroid Land 350. It took a bit of work to get it to function correctly with the currently available Fuji pack films … some camera surgery was required. This was the first successful exposure I made with it on the Fuji FP-3000b film pack. G “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Playing with the K-3
Thanks for posting Paul the high ISO is pretty damm good IMO - I'm thinking more about acquiring. Anything negative you've found? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Playing with the K-3 My camera showed up this afternoon. (Finally convinced BH that I didn't want to wait until the grip was in stock for shipping.) Been busy all day but got a chance to play for a bit tonight. Like the way the autofocus functions are controlled by the front and rear wheels when the button is pushed. Nice. Shot a few frames with the FA 35/2, since my 16-50 is still in Japan. This lens usually requires the most focus adjustment but seems pretty close on this camera. Was very pleased with the way the camera was able to focus in near darkness. Shot my scotch in near total darkness. Focus locked right on. ISO 51.200, f2.8, 1/15th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17588688size=lg My scotch with the bar lights on, shot at a more reasonable ISO 3200, f5.6, 1/25th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17588690size=lg And Grace doing her homework, ISO 3200, f5.6, 1/100th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17588691size=lg Very pleased with the autofocus using this screw drive lens. Will try it with SDM lens next. Autofocus fine tuning for all lenses on the weekend. Then we're good to go. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Playing with the K-3
On 11/7/2013 3:12 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: And Grace doing her homework, ISO 3200, f5.6, 1/100th: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17588691size=lg Excellent shot, Paul... Naturally, K-3 is a great camera and in your hands it is even better. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New 20-40 DA Limited is official
On 11/7/2013 12:20 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/camera-lenses/HD_PENTAX-DA_20-40mm_F2.8-4_ED_Limited_DC_WR Finally! Pentax is doing something that Pentax is best at doing - making great lenses. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Down and Out
XJVT, you couldn't drink this picture good Mark ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO - Down and Out On 06/11/2013 7:16 PM, knarf wrote: Not sure how this might be received, but I must admit I'm rather pleased at how it turned out: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/11/down-and-out.html?m=1 Rarely am I roused to comment on a picture shown to this group of friends by one of our friends. Mostly, this is for the best, and this would be one of those time when staying silent would be for the best. Sadly, I do not always serve anyones best interests, and this is going to be one of those times. First, a preamble. I don't pretend to get street photography, but I do feel that a good photograph will speak directly to me through my eyes, and I will understand it, at least on some level. Unfortunately for this photograph, it does speak to me, but in a whiny, I want to be edgy, but I come up short sort of way. This image screams Look at me, look at how clever I am. I have Mr. Urban Dog Walker and a down and out Hobo in the same picture, and look at how cleverly crooked I am framed. This is the picture that walks into the bar and no one will talk to because it has nothing to say, but keeps saying it anyway. This picture is like Boy George. Cool once to a mindset more interested in sizzle than steak, but just a talentless schmuck to those of us who cut our teeth on the real thing. Fuck, you couldn't drink this picture good. HAR!! bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sample images w/ range of ISO's - K3 K5ii
Would like to see the full size images (that many pixels shrunk down to web resolution is going to look good, regardless). You can sure see the difference in the dynamic range when you compare the 51200 with the 6400 (such as flipping between image 43 and 42 (on page 2). Thanks for sharing those. -D On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 10:43:53PM -0500, Stan Halpin wrote: Except the two in the bar are with the K-3 even though the title doesn't say that. The 51,200 shot in the bar is surprisingly usable. Looking at the tight crops of 51K it looks rather rough. There's a lesson there about not seeing the photo for the pixels. Right! I just went back and looked at my on-line image, K-3 at 51200: http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p400348830/h3fa48447#h3107f624 Considering that I did zero nada nothing to process the images, I think I would be comfortable shooting at this speed if I need to. Tomorrow I may play with LR noise reduction, etc. but that is part of why I put the DNG images into Dropbox - let others see what they could do with these raw materials and some processing tricks . . . [Pun intended.] stan On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Yes, if the title doesn't say K-3, then that sample image was with the K-5ii. Somewhere, I think UpperRight corner, there is a hotspot: a mouseover pops an option to view the exif to get a little more info . . . On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 10:25:30PM -0500, Stan Halpin wrote: It was raining today. Pretty much all day. I did a couple of shots (6400 and 51,200) at a local pub while out for lunch. Did a couple of shots each of the K-3 and K-5ii sitting side by side and the AF360FGZ and the new AF540FGZii sitting side by side. Then I did a few series of a still life with both cameras, repeated with and without NR turned on in the camera. Lighting courtesy of moderately dark rain clouds. I don't quite understand the layout of the jpegs. Are the K-5 photos the ones with just ISO in the title? The images may be viewed as follows: I put the whole batch, full size DNGs, in my Dropbox. Also there is the K-3 manual and an index page that describes ISO camera NR On/Off for each image. (Included below as well). Full size jpgs exported from Lightroom can be seen on my Zenfolio site. Also there you can see 900x900 close-ups from each of the full-size images. Oh, and in addition to the ISO series, I did an in-camera HDR with both cameras; the K-5 only works on jpgs, the K-3 HDR works with RAW. Cameras mounted on a copy stand, natural lighting, remote shutter activation with mirror lockup. You'll note that note all cells are filled in in the table below. So, I screwed up. Shoot me. Dropbox: DNGs https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b814cy2z86knd9p/0TOLBhvJmB Zenfolio: Large jpegs and smaller close-ups http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p400348830 Index: K3 vs K5ii Preliminary ISO tests: Image File Names NR Off NR On K-3 K-5ii K-3 K-5ii ISO100A0020 6017A0026 6022 ISO800A0021 6018A0027 6022 ISO 6400 A0022 6019A0028 6024 ISO 25600 6020 6025 ISO 51200 A0024 6021A0029 60026 K-5 Incamera HDR (jpg)6027 K-3 In-camera HDR (DNG) A0042 K3 K5ii picturesB0369-0371 AF360 FGZ AF540 FGZii pictures B0372-0373 I haven't actually looked at these images in any detail yet. I can verify that there is more apparent noise at higher ISO's. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Re: PESO - Down and Out
Jesus, Bill, it's just a picture. Oy, gevalt! ;-) Cheers, frank Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/11/2013 7:16 PM, knarf wrote: Not sure how this might be received, but I must admit I'm rather pleased at how it turned out: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2013/11/down-and-out.html?m=1 Rarely am I roused to comment on a picture shown to this group of friends by one of our friends. Mostly, this is for the best, and this would be one of those time when staying silent would be for the best. Sadly, I do not always serve anyones best interests, and this is going to be one of those times. First, a preamble. I don't pretend to get street photography, but I do feel that a good photograph will speak directly to me through my eyes, and I will understand it, at least on some level. Unfortunately for this photograph, it does speak to me, but in a whiny, I want to be edgy, but I come up short sort of way. This image screams Look at me, look at how clever I am. I have Mr. Urban Dog Walker and a down and out Hobo in the same picture, and look at how cleverly crooked I am framed. This is the picture that walks into the bar and no one will talk to because it has nothing to say, but keeps saying it anyway. This picture is like Boy George. Cool once to a mindset more interested in sizzle than steak, but just a talentless schmuck to those of us who cut our teeth on the real thing. Fuck, you couldn't drink this picture good. HAR!! bill “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Remember when we used to bemoan the small image buffer?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHOagAADH_M -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Just for Bob
On 11/5/2013 9:41 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Nov 5, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: ... Now, every frame is meaningful again. Shoot with a Polaroid SX-70 for a while. Every frame means another $3 spent. Good point! If I shoot large format every frame will cost even more! Surely my photos will be better, right? If it makes you happy that's better ain't it? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Just for Bob
On 11/6/2013 9:47 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: On 11/6/13 6:59 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I shot some 4x5 Polaroid with my Speed Graphic back in the '80s. Great fun. Landscapes had a painterly look. Still have a polaroid back for a 4x5, but don't think film is available. And if it were, I'm sure it would be costly. Paul The Impossible Project offers Polaroid-like film, and it's is about $3 a pop for the SX-70 size. Meaningful indeed. I have an SX-70 around here somewhere and have seriously contemplated doing a few frames with it, just because. AFAIK, they haven't recreated any of the Polaroid 4x5 films. Looking at their site, they say the machinery for 4x5 was destroyed in 2006/2007. I don't think an 8x10 is in my future. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Old Dirty Kodachrome Slides
In my home repair/decluttering, I've run across a couple of boxes of old Kodachromes I had packed away. They're all I managed to salvage from the binders destroyed when my roof came off during Hurricane Fran in 1996. They look like they were washed in muddy water. Is there any way to clean them without destroying them? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Remember when we used to bemoan the small image buffer?
Looks like Ricoh's has put some effort into the K3. ... :-) Godfrey On Nov 6, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHOagAADH_M -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Old Dirty Kodachrome Slides
I did this job for a friend a couple of years ago. My technique was to use clean slightly soapy water on the non-emulsion side to gently wipe the muck off. If the emulsion side is dirty too, you can try the same technique, and if they're were processed by Kodak they will most likely survive. Some of the slides I treated were non-Kodak, and in some cases the emulsion came off: but as the friend said, without my treatment they were gone anyway! HTH John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sent: Thursday, 7 November 2013 3:23 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Old Dirty Kodachrome Slides In my home repair/decluttering, I've run across a couple of boxes of old Kodachromes I had packed away. They're all I managed to salvage from the binders destroyed when my roof came off during Hurricane Fran in 1996. They look like they were washed in muddy water. Is there any way to clean them without destroying them? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sample images w/ range of ISO's - K3 K5ii
Download and look. The folder on Dropbox is less than 1 gig s oif you have a reasonable connection . . . On Nov 6, 2013, at 11:47 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Would like to see the full size images (that many pixels shrunk down to web resolution is going to look good, regardless). You can sure see the difference in the dynamic range when you compare the 51200 with the 6400 (such as flipping between image 43 and 42 (on page 2). Thanks for sharing those. -D On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 10:43:53PM -0500, Stan Halpin wrote: Except the two in the bar are with the K-3 even though the title doesn't say that. The 51,200 shot in the bar is surprisingly usable. Looking at the tight crops of 51K it looks rather rough. There's a lesson there about not seeing the photo for the pixels. Right! I just went back and looked at my on-line image, K-3 at 51200: http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p400348830/h3fa48447#h3107f624 Considering that I did zero nada nothing to process the images, I think I would be comfortable shooting at this speed if I need to. Tomorrow I may play with LR noise reduction, etc. but that is part of why I put the DNG images into Dropbox - let others see what they could do with these raw materials and some processing tricks . . . [Pun intended.] stan On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Yes, if the title doesn't say K-3, then that sample image was with the K-5ii. Somewhere, I think UpperRight corner, there is a hotspot: a mouseover pops an option to view the exif to get a little more info . . . On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 10:25:30PM -0500, Stan Halpin wrote: It was raining today. Pretty much all day. I did a couple of shots (6400 and 51,200) at a local pub while out for lunch. Did a couple of shots each of the K-3 and K-5ii sitting side by side and the AF360FGZ and the new AF540FGZii sitting side by side. Then I did a few series of a still life with both cameras, repeated with and without NR turned on in the camera. Lighting courtesy of moderately dark rain clouds. I don't quite understand the layout of the jpegs. Are the K-5 photos the ones with just ISO in the title? The images may be viewed as follows: I put the whole batch, full size DNGs, in my Dropbox. Also there is the K-3 manual and an index page that describes ISO camera NR On/Off for each image. (Included below as well). Full size jpgs exported from Lightroom can be seen on my Zenfolio site. Also there you can see 900x900 close-ups from each of the full-size images. Oh, and in addition to the ISO series, I did an in-camera HDR with both cameras; the K-5 only works on jpgs, the K-3 HDR works with RAW. Cameras mounted on a copy stand, natural lighting, remote shutter activation with mirror lockup. You'll note that note all cells are filled in in the table below. So, I screwed up. Shoot me. Dropbox: DNGs https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b814cy2z86knd9p/0TOLBhvJmB Zenfolio: Large jpegs and smaller close-ups http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p400348830 Index: K3 vs K5ii Preliminary ISO tests: Image File Names NR Off NR On K-3 K-5ii K-3 K-5ii ISO100A0020 6017A0026 6022 ISO800A0021 6018A0027 6022 ISO 6400 A0022 6019A0028 6024 ISO 25600 6020 6025 ISO 51200 A0024 6021A0029 60026 K-5 Incamera HDR (jpg)6027 K-3 In-camera HDR (DNG) A0042 K3 K5ii picturesB0369-0371 AF360 FGZ AF540 FGZii pictures B0372-0373 I haven't actually looked at these images in any detail yet. I can verify that there is more apparent noise at higher ISO's. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the
Re: Remember when we used to bemoan the small image buffer?
Interesting movie. I thought the plot was a bit one-dimensional and the acting was quite thin (particularly considering the star quality of the two main characters), but all in all a good depiction of the rapid pace of change in the modern world. I must say, though, that I was disturbed by the full-frontal nudity. They should know that impressionable youth could be watching and get the wrong idea . . . Thanks Darren! stan On Nov 6, 2013, at 11:50 PM, Darren Addy wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHOagAADH_M -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Remember when we used to bemoan the small image buffer?
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 01:48:01AM -0500, Stan Halpin wrote: Interesting movie. I thought the plot was a bit one-dimensional and the acting was quite thin (particularly considering the star quality of the two main characters), but all in all a good depiction of the rapid pace of change in the modern world. I must say, though, that I was disturbed by the full-frontal nudity. They should know that impressionable youth could be watching and get the wrong idea . . . I think that you need to bring your views up to modern day standards. While there was full frontal nudity, latex protection was being worn during all of the explicit action. Thanks Darren! stan On Nov 6, 2013, at 11:50 PM, Darren Addy wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHOagAADH_M -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sample images w/ range of ISO's - K3 K5ii
Done, thanks Stan :) On 7 November 2013 17:39, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: Download and look. The folder on Dropbox is less than 1 gig s oif you have a reasonable connection . . . On Nov 6, 2013, at 11:47 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Would like to see the full size images (that many pixels shrunk down to web resolution is going to look good, regardless). You can sure see the difference in the dynamic range when you compare the 51200 with the 6400 (such as flipping between image 43 and 42 (on page 2). Thanks for sharing those. -D On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 10:43:53PM -0500, Stan Halpin wrote: Except the two in the bar are with the K-3 even though the title doesn't say that. The 51,200 shot in the bar is surprisingly usable. Looking at the tight crops of 51K it looks rather rough. There's a lesson there about not seeing the photo for the pixels. Right! I just went back and looked at my on-line image, K-3 at 51200: http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p400348830/h3fa48447#h3107f624 Considering that I did zero nada nothing to process the images, I think I would be comfortable shooting at this speed if I need to. Tomorrow I may play with LR noise reduction, etc. but that is part of why I put the DNG images into Dropbox - let others see what they could do with these raw materials and some processing tricks . . . [Pun intended.] stan On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Yes, if the title doesn't say K-3, then that sample image was with the K-5ii. Somewhere, I think UpperRight corner, there is a hotspot: a mouseover pops an option to view the exif to get a little more info . . . On Nov 6, 2013, at 10:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 10:25:30PM -0500, Stan Halpin wrote: It was raining today. Pretty much all day. I did a couple of shots (6400 and 51,200) at a local pub while out for lunch. Did a couple of shots each of the K-3 and K-5ii sitting side by side and the AF360FGZ and the new AF540FGZii sitting side by side. Then I did a few series of a still life with both cameras, repeated with and without NR turned on in the camera. Lighting courtesy of moderately dark rain clouds. I don't quite understand the layout of the jpegs. Are the K-5 photos the ones with just ISO in the title? The images may be viewed as follows: I put the whole batch, full size DNGs, in my Dropbox. Also there is the K-3 manual and an index page that describes ISO camera NR On/Off for each image. (Included below as well). Full size jpgs exported from Lightroom can be seen on my Zenfolio site. Also there you can see 900x900 close-ups from each of the full-size images. Oh, and in addition to the ISO series, I did an in-camera HDR with both cameras; the K-5 only works on jpgs, the K-3 HDR works with RAW. Cameras mounted on a copy stand, natural lighting, remote shutter activation with mirror lockup. You'll note that note all cells are filled in in the table below. So, I screwed up. Shoot me. Dropbox: DNGs https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b814cy2z86knd9p/0TOLBhvJmB Zenfolio: Large jpegs and smaller close-ups http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p400348830 Index: K3 vs K5ii Preliminary ISO tests: Image File Names NR Off NR On K-3 K-5ii K-3 K-5ii ISO100A0020 6017A0026 6022 ISO800A0021 6018A0027 6022 ISO 6400 A0022 6019A0028 6024 ISO 25600 6020 6025 ISO 51200 A0024 6021A0029 60026 K-5 Incamera HDR (jpg)6027 K-3 In-camera HDR (DNG) A0042 K3 K5ii picturesB0369-0371 AF360 FGZ AF540 FGZii pictures B0372-0373 I haven't actually looked at these images in any detail yet. I can verify that there is more apparent noise at higher ISO's. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to
Re: Remember when we used to bemoan the small image buffer?
I've never saturated the K5 buffer and I always shoot RAW + JPG On 7 November 2013 15:50, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHOagAADH_M -- Nothing is sure but death and Pentaxes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
