Re: Geso :Tour De Farms

[Bob W-PDML]

On 2 Aug 2015, at 03:01, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> 
> [...] By the way many riders carry their
> sleeping bags etc on the bikes and sleep where they drop.
> 

That's called "randonnée" or "audax". The real hardcore don't use tents and 
sleeping bags, but sleep in their clothes in bus shelters or on the floor of 
halls. 

The most famous event is Paris-Brest-Paris (PBP). One of our very own PDMLers 
is doing it this year - 16-20 August. Perhaps he'll show himself and we can 
follow his exploits online.

http://www.paris-brest-paris.org/index2.php?cat=accueil&lang=en&page=edito

B

> 
>> [...]
>> 
>> This year they stopped in my hometown and here is small gallery of their
>> stop. Some Pentax; some not. C&C as always.
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/gp/valdon/J65M49
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Re: OT but still about cameras. Dash Cameras.

[Steve Cottrell]

Hi Bill

I got a Smart Witness SVC1080





You can see the computer software interface here:



Very easy to set up, I have on in my Land Rover, only forward facing
though. I do have a rear-mounted camera that feeds a separate monitor on
my dash which I just use for reversing as I have zero rear visibility by
eye. The rear camera is pointed downwards so I can see the two rear
lower corners for when i am reversing and parallel parking etc. The
angle unfortunately doesn't allow me to see the horizon in the upper
part, so something I will change in future as being able to record rear
vision is an excellent idea.

As far as the SVC1080 goes, it gives a hug wide angle view in HD 30fps
video - useful to be able to resolve car registration plates that might
only pass by very quickly at the edge of frame. The device records speed
and position via GPS and this is seen in the playback software. Also
records G force and impact severity. The software is pretty easy to use
on the computer, allowing quicktime movs to be exported of any time
frame. If I come across an incident, I simply note time of day and later
can easily retrieve the mishap for public humiliation. As for actual
incidents involving my vehicle, none yet - but of course you never break
down when you carry a tool kit...

The camera takes Micro SD cards and comes with either a 4GB/ 16GB / 32
GB card supplied. I got mine cheaply of an Amazon seller after it was
returned to a retailer, just minus the instructions (which I got from
the net anyway) and cost me 114 GBP. Note that the device records
indefinitely, wiping over old data as it goes. This gives plenty of
recording time to retrieve later - as long as you don't have the 4GB
card installed. I use a 32GB card and can go back a couple of days in
journey time - and I do about 150 miles a day on average. In practice
you would retrieve an incident at the end of the same day anyway.

The Micro SD card is easy to remove while the device is in situ, and the
fitting kit is straightforward. Not much else to say - does what it says
on the box. Feels very reassuring to have it aboard and I am sure will
prove very useful ultimately.

Cheers




On 1/8/15, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I've decided I need a dash camera. A guy sideswiped me the other day, 
>and now I am in a he said/she said situation with the other driver.
>If I had a dash cam, I would have had proof of what the other driver 
>did, but I don't.
>Anyway, as I now see the benefit of having one, I look to the wisdom of 
>the list for advice on what is a good dash cam. I'm not looking for the 
>cheapest, I don't mind spending a bit of coin.
>I'm wondering if something with a reverse cam wouldn't be a bad idea. My 
>truck is pretty much a rolling blind spot in reverse, backing up is a 
>leap of faith.
>Mt reseller of choice on this will probably be amazon.ca
>
>Any advice is appreciated.
>
>thanks
>
>bill

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Re: OT: Baltic Cruises

[Steve Cottrell]

On 1/8/15, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

>We are thinking of a Baltic cruise to St Petersburg.  Has anyone on
>the list taken such a journey?  Any recommendations?

>My wife has a tendency towards motion sickness, and that's why I
>wangted to hear from anyone who has been on one of the Baltic cruises.
>We did the ferry from Copenhagen to Oslo years ago, and it was a very
>rough crossing.

Where are you cruising from?

The journey you took from Copenhagen to Oslo can be difficult because
once you clear the Danish peninsula you are open to the very long
'fetch' from the North Sea -and with the prevailing westerlies, the sea
can build up nicely as you transit - beam on to the sea - towards
Norway. Not pleasant aboard a boat with no sail - no matter how large!

I sailed that route aboard a 60 foot yacht in such a sea with 40 knots
of wind across the deck and it was exhilarating, but appreciate many
would find it very uncomfortable.

That said, from the western Baltic to St Pete's in the summer months
should not be a problem - in the summer months that region is not
usually bothered by gales. If anything, the wind will generally be a
following one, so aboard a ship should be very pleasant. Gets very warm
in the summer and the long daylight hours are a big bonus. I'm looking
forward to doing some cruising up there in years to come - although in
something a bit smaller: 35 feet-ish. Can't wait!

Definitely go for it.

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Fwd: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net

[Daniel J. Matyola]

This came as quite a surprise.  I have been using Photo.net to store
most of my images that I intend to show here or share with others for
years, but this is my first photo of the day.

BTW, I chose another image from the same shoot for my PESO here of the
Sphinx or False Hummingbird moth, although this was among those chosen
for my GESO of the moth shoot.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



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Date: Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 12:35 AM
Subject: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net
To: danmaty...@gmail.com



Congratulations!  Your photo
(http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18056893) has been chosen by
the Photo.net Elves to be featured as the Photo of the Day for August
3.  This is a distinct honor as Photo.net gets thousands of uploads a
day by notable photographers from all over the world!  Take this
moment to pat yourself on the back for creating a truly wonderful
photograph and we would like to sincerely thank you for sharing it
with us. Each photo of the day will be featured on the Photo.net home
page as well as our social media outlets! There are many more very
exciting updates coming to photo.net in the coming months, so keep up
the terrific work, stay active on photo.net and once again
congratulations!

Sincerely,

Glenn Palm
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Re: OT: Baltic Cruises

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Steve.

The cruise I was looking at starts and ends in Stockholm.  Others go
from Amsterdam.

If we have a following wind eastbound, we should then have a head wind
westbound.  Would that make it rougher?  How are conditions in the
early fall?


Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 7:22 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> On 1/8/15, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>We are thinking of a Baltic cruise to St Petersburg.  Has anyone on
>>the list taken such a journey?  Any recommendations?
>
>>My wife has a tendency towards motion sickness, and that's why I
>>wangted to hear from anyone who has been on one of the Baltic cruises.
>>We did the ferry from Copenhagen to Oslo years ago, and it was a very
>>rough crossing.
>
> Where are you cruising from?
>
> The journey you took from Copenhagen to Oslo can be difficult because
> once you clear the Danish peninsula you are open to the very long
> 'fetch' from the North Sea -and with the prevailing westerlies, the sea
> can build up nicely as you transit - beam on to the sea - towards
> Norway. Not pleasant aboard a boat with no sail - no matter how large!
>
> I sailed that route aboard a 60 foot yacht in such a sea with 40 knots
> of wind across the deck and it was exhilarating, but appreciate many
> would find it very uncomfortable.
>
> That said, from the western Baltic to St Pete's in the summer months
> should not be a problem - in the summer months that region is not
> usually bothered by gales. If anything, the wind will generally be a
> following one, so aboard a ship should be very pleasant. Gets very warm
> in the summer and the long daylight hours are a big bonus. I'm looking
> forward to doing some cruising up there in years to come - although in
> something a bit smaller: 35 feet-ish. Can't wait!
>
> Definitely go for it.
>
> --
>
>
> Cheers,
>   Cotty
>
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Re: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net

[Jack Davis]

Nice reward, Dan!

J

- Original Message -
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 5:12:52 AM
Subject: Fwd: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net

This came as quite a surprise.  I have been using Photo.net to store
most of my images that I intend to show here or share with others for
years, but this is my first photo of the day.

BTW, I chose another image from the same shoot for my PESO here of the
Sphinx or False Hummingbird moth, although this was among those chosen
for my GESO of the moth shoot.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



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From:  
Date: Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 12:35 AM
Subject: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net
To: danmaty...@gmail.com



Congratulations!  Your photo
(http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18056893) has been chosen by
the Photo.net Elves to be featured as the Photo of the Day for August
3.  This is a distinct honor as Photo.net gets thousands of uploads a
day by notable photographers from all over the world!  Take this
moment to pat yourself on the back for creating a truly wonderful
photograph and we would like to sincerely thank you for sharing it
with us. Each photo of the day will be featured on the Photo.net home
page as well as our social media outlets! There are many more very
exciting updates coming to photo.net in the coming months, so keep up
the terrific work, stay active on photo.net and once again
congratulations!

Sincerely,

Glenn Palm
General Manager – Photo.net

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Re: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net

[Darren Addy]

Congrats, Daniel! A worthy image so the kudos are well-deserved!

On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Nice reward, Dan!
>
> J
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 5:12:52 AM
> Subject: Fwd: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net
>
> This came as quite a surprise.  I have been using Photo.net to store
> most of my images that I intend to show here or share with others for
> years, but this is my first photo of the day.
>
> BTW, I chose another image from the same shoot for my PESO here of the
> Sphinx or False Hummingbird moth, although this was among those chosen
> for my GESO of the moth shoot.
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From:  
> Date: Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 12:35 AM
> Subject: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net
> To: danmaty...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> Congratulations!  Your photo
> (http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18056893) has been chosen by
> the Photo.net Elves to be featured as the Photo of the Day for August
> 3.  This is a distinct honor as Photo.net gets thousands of uploads a
> day by notable photographers from all over the world!  Take this
> moment to pat yourself on the back for creating a truly wonderful
> photograph and we would like to sincerely thank you for sharing it
> with us. Each photo of the day will be featured on the Photo.net home
> page as well as our social media outlets! There are many more very
> exciting updates coming to photo.net in the coming months, so keep up
> the terrific work, stay active on photo.net and once again
> congratulations!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Glenn Palm
> General Manager – Photo.net
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Re: Fwd: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net

[Knarf]

Yeah, it's that good. Completely deserving of the recognition.

Great photo, congrats! Did you get the moth to sign a release? LOL!

Cheers,

frank


On 2 August, 2015 8:12:52 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola"  
wrote:
>This came as quite a surprise.  I have been using Photo.net to store
>most of my images that I intend to show here or share with others for
>years, but this is my first photo of the day.
>
>BTW, I chose another image from the same shoot for my PESO here of the
>Sphinx or False Hummingbird moth, although this was among those chosen
>for my GESO of the moth shoot.
>
>Dan Matyola
>http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>
>
>-- Forwarded message --
>From:  
>Date: Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 12:35 AM
>Subject: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net
>To: danmaty...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>Congratulations!  Your photo
>(http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18056893) has been chosen by
>the Photo.net Elves to be featured as the Photo of the Day for August
>3.  This is a distinct honor as Photo.net gets thousands of uploads a
>day by notable photographers from all over the world!  Take this
>moment to pat yourself on the back for creating a truly wonderful
>photograph and we would like to sincerely thank you for sharing it
>with us. Each photo of the day will be featured on the Photo.net home
>page as well as our social media outlets! There are many more very
>exciting updates coming to photo.net in the coming months, so keep up
>the terrific work, stay active on photo.net and once again
>congratulations!
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Glenn Palm
>General Manager – Photo.net
>
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Re: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net

[Bob W-PDML]

Excellent - well done. Well deserved too.

B



> On 2 Aug 2015, at 13:13, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> This came as quite a surprise.  I have been using Photo.net to store
> most of my images that I intend to show here or share with others for
> years, but this is my first photo of the day.
> 
> BTW, I chose another image from the same shoot for my PESO here of the
> Sphinx or False Hummingbird moth, although this was among those chosen
> for my GESO of the moth shoot.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From:  
> Date: Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 12:35 AM
> Subject: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net
> To: danmaty...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> Congratulations!  Your photo
> (http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18056893) has been chosen by
> the Photo.net Elves to be featured as the Photo of the Day for August
> 3.  This is a distinct honor as Photo.net gets thousands of uploads a
> day by notable photographers from all over the world!  Take this
> moment to pat yourself on the back for creating a truly wonderful
> photograph and we would like to sincerely thank you for sharing it
> with us. Each photo of the day will be featured on the Photo.net home
> page as well as our social media outlets! There are many more very
> exciting updates coming to photo.net in the coming months, so keep up
> the terrific work, stay active on photo.net and once again
> congratulations!
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Glenn Palm
> General Manager – Photo.net
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Re: Geso :Tour De Farms

[Subash]

hi,

they are also called BRMs (brevet randonneur mondiaux) and since these
are long distance endurance events to be completed within stipulated
times, and the clock is always ticking, taking tents and sleeping bags
is unthinkable because of the weight. and yes, bus shelters are where we
mostly catch 40 winks before plodding on into the night...

like Bob said, the most prestigious and the oldest of them all is the
Paris-Brest-Brest randonnee, first held in 1891, now held every four
years. the next one is happening this month, from the 16 to the 20th.
1230 km to be done in 90 hours. about 6090 riders from 66 countries are
participating this year. and there are about 55 of us from india doing
it, including two women. 

if i remember right, i think Stan Halpin did this in 1987 or so. 

really looking forward to it. this will also be my first time in paris.
not taking a pentax though. just a p&s (rx 100). hoping to finish the
brevet and hoping to bring back some memorable photos. thanks for the
mention Bob.

regards, subash

p.s.: still lurking here but not contributing much because i haven't
done any worthwhile photography for a couple of years.


On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 09:08:48 +0100
Bob W-PDML  wrote:

> On 2 Aug 2015, at 03:01, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> > 
> > [...] By the way many riders carry their
> > sleeping bags etc on the bikes and sleep where they drop.
> > 
> 
> That's called "randonnée" or "audax". The real hardcore don't use
> tents and sleeping bags, but sleep in their clothes in bus shelters
> or on the floor of halls. 
> 
> The most famous event is Paris-Brest-Paris (PBP). One of our very own
> PDMLers is doing it this year - 16-20 August. Perhaps he'll show
> himself and we can follow his exploits online.
> 
> http://www.paris-brest-paris.org/index2.php?cat=accueil&lang=en&page=edito
> 
> B
> 
> > 
> >> [...]
> >> 
> >> This year they stopped in my hometown and here is small gallery of
> >> their stop. Some Pentax; some not. C&C as always.
> >> 
> >> https://www.flickr.com/gp/valdon/J65M49


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Re: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> Congrats, Daniel! A worthy image so the kudos are well-deserved!

Ditto

Dave
>
> On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> Nice reward, Dan!
>>
>> J
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2015 5:12:52 AM
>> Subject: Fwd: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net
>>
>> This came as quite a surprise.  I have been using Photo.net to store
>> most of my images that I intend to show here or share with others for
>> years, but this is my first photo of the day.
>>
>> BTW, I chose another image from the same shoot for my PESO here of the
>> Sphinx or False Hummingbird moth, although this was among those chosen
>> for my GESO of the moth shoot.
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From:  
>> Date: Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 12:35 AM
>> Subject: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net
>> To: danmaty...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Congratulations!  Your photo
>> (http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18056893) has been chosen by
>> the Photo.net Elves to be featured as the Photo of the Day for August
>> 3.  This is a distinct honor as Photo.net gets thousands of uploads a
>> day by notable photographers from all over the world!  Take this
>> moment to pat yourself on the back for creating a truly wonderful
>> photograph and we would like to sincerely thank you for sharing it
>> with us. Each photo of the day will be featured on the Photo.net home
>> page as well as our social media outlets! There are many more very
>> exciting updates coming to photo.net in the coming months, so keep up
>> the terrific work, stay active on photo.net and once again
>> congratulations!
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Glenn Palm
>> General Manager – Photo.net
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Re: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net

[Paul Stenquist]

Superb! Congratulations!

Paul via phone

> On Aug 2, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> This came as quite a surprise.  I have been using Photo.net to store
> most of my images that I intend to show here or share with others for
> years, but this is my first photo of the day.
> 
> BTW, I chose another image from the same shoot for my PESO here of the
> Sphinx or False Hummingbird moth, although this was among those chosen
> for my GESO of the moth shoot.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From:  
> Date: Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 12:35 AM
> Subject: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net
> To: danmaty...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> Congratulations!  Your photo
> (http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18056893) has been chosen by
> the Photo.net Elves to be featured as the Photo of the Day for August
> 3.  This is a distinct honor as Photo.net gets thousands of uploads a
> day by notable photographers from all over the world!  Take this
> moment to pat yourself on the back for creating a truly wonderful
> photograph and we would like to sincerely thank you for sharing it
> with us. Each photo of the day will be featured on the Photo.net home
> page as well as our social media outlets! There are many more very
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Re: Geso :Tour De Farms

[Don Guthrie]

That's interesting, Bob. Rugged types huh? Here 500 or so request
private homes to stay in.

What's the weather like during the PBP? I thought everyone leaves
Paris in August.
Mystery rider reveal yourself to satisfy our vicarious ride envy.


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On 2 Aug 2015, at 03:01, Don Guthrie  wrote:
>
> [...] By the way many riders carry their
> sleeping bags etc on the bikes and sleep where they drop.
>

That's called "randonn?e" or "audax". The real hardcore don't use
tents and sleeping bags, but sleep in their clothes in bus shelters or
on the floor of halls.

The most famous event is Paris-Brest-Paris (PBP). One of our very own
PDMLers is doing it this year - 16-20 August. Perhaps he'll show
himself and we can follow his exploits online.

http://www.paris-brest-paris.org/index2.php?cat=accueil&lang=en&page=edito

B

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re: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net

[Don Guthrie]

Certainly picked one of your best. Congrats.




Message: 7
Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 08:12:52 -0400
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
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Subject: Fwd: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at
Photo.net
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This came as quite a surprise.  I have been using Photo.net to store
most of my images that I intend to show here or share with others for
years, but this is my first photo of the day.

BTW, I chose another image from the same shoot for my PESO here of the
Sphinx or False Hummingbird moth, although this was among those chosen
for my GESO of the moth shoot.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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Re: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net

[Marco Alpert]

Well deserved!

- Marco

On Aug 2, 2015, at 5:12 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

> This came as quite a surprise.  I have been using Photo.net to store
> most of my images that I intend to show here or share with others for
> years, but this is my first photo of the day.
> 
> BTW, I chose another image from the same shoot for my PESO here of the
> Sphinx or False Hummingbird moth, although this was among those chosen
> for my GESO of the moth shoot.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From:  
> Date: Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 12:35 AM
> Subject: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net
> To: danmaty...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> Congratulations!  Your photo
> (http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18056893) has been chosen by
> the Photo.net Elves to be featured as the Photo of the Day for August
> 3.  This is a distinct honor as Photo.net gets thousands of uploads a
> day by notable photographers from all over the world!  Take this
> moment to pat yourself on the back for creating a truly wonderful
> photograph and we would like to sincerely thank you for sharing it
> with us. Each photo of the day will be featured on the Photo.net home
> page as well as our social media outlets! There are many more very
> exciting updates coming to photo.net in the coming months, so keep up
> the terrific work, stay active on photo.net and once again
> congratulations!
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
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Re: Fwd: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net

[Mark C]

Congratulations! A well deserved honor indeed!

Mark

On 8/2/2015 8:12 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

This came as quite a surprise.  I have been using Photo.net to store
most of my images that I intend to show here or share with others for
years, but this is my first photo of the day.

BTW, I chose another image from the same shoot for my PESO here of the
Sphinx or False Hummingbird moth, although this was among those chosen
for my GESO of the moth shoot.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola



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From:  
Date: Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 12:35 AM
Subject: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net
To: danmaty...@gmail.com



Congratulations!  Your photo
(http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18056893) has been chosen by
the Photo.net Elves to be featured as the Photo of the Day for August
3.  This is a distinct honor as Photo.net gets thousands of uploads a
day by notable photographers from all over the world!  Take this
moment to pat yourself on the back for creating a truly wonderful
photograph and we would like to sincerely thank you for sharing it
with us. Each photo of the day will be featured on the Photo.net home
page as well as our social media outlets! There are many more very
exciting updates coming to photo.net in the coming months, so keep up
the terrific work, stay active on photo.net and once again
congratulations!

Sincerely,

Glenn Palm
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Alms for the poor

[Doug Brewer]

Hi, troops. The wolf is at the door and the cupboard is bare. Please
consider flipping a few spare coins into the cup at www.pdml.net if
you could be so kind. The universe will repay your generosity by
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Re: Fwd: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net

[Rick Womer]

I like the motion blur of the wings against the sharp detail elswhere.
Nicely done, and congratulations!

Rick
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On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> Congratulations! A well deserved honor indeed!
>
> Mark
>
>
> On 8/2/2015 8:12 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> This came as quite a surprise.  I have been using Photo.net to store
>> most of my images that I intend to show here or share with others for
>> years, but this is my first photo of the day.
>>
>> BTW, I chose another image from the same shoot for my PESO here of the
>> Sphinx or False Hummingbird moth, although this was among those chosen
>> for my GESO of the moth shoot.
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From:  
>> Date: Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 12:35 AM
>> Subject: Your photo has been selected for photo of the day at Photo.net
>> To: danmaty...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Congratulations!  Your photo
>> (http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18056893) has been chosen by
>> the Photo.net Elves to be featured as the Photo of the Day for August
>> 3.  This is a distinct honor as Photo.net gets thousands of uploads a
>> day by notable photographers from all over the world!  Take this
>> moment to pat yourself on the back for creating a truly wonderful
>> photograph and we would like to sincerely thank you for sharing it
>> with us. Each photo of the day will be featured on the Photo.net home
>> page as well as our social media outlets! There are many more very
>> exciting updates coming to photo.net in the coming months, so keep up
>> the terrific work, stay active on photo.net and once again
>> congratulations!
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Glenn Palm
>> General Manager – Photo.net
>>
>
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RE: PESO - The Man in the Hat

[Knarf]

No, I'm pretty certain I meant "the man in the hat".

Yes, upon reflection that's exactly what I meant.

;-)

Cheers,

frank

On 1 August, 2015 10:14:24 PM EDT, Don Guthrie  wrote:
>I think it is the man without the hat ?
>
>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 23:13:29 -0400
>From: Knarf 
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: PESO - The Man in the Hat
>Message-ID: <0eb934ad-2cc5-4861-9321-d4d40b00d...@gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>Not much to say:
>
>http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/07/the-man-in-hat.html?m=1
>
>Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
>
>Cheers,
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Re: Alms for the poor

[Paul]

Done...

On 8/2/2015 12:37 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

Hi, troops. The wolf is at the door and the cupboard is bare. Please
consider flipping a few spare coins into the cup at www.pdml.net if
you could be so kind. The universe will repay your generosity by
making all your children be born naked.

hasta,

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Re: PESO ~ Shadow play

[Bill]

On 01/08/2015 9:06 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Thank you very much for your kind words and support, Frank!


If it is of any comfort to you, the model, Dorrie, fully participates
in and approves of every part of the image creation process.


I think this is where the whole "exploitation" via sexualization and 
objectification argument falls on it's face.
When the subject is a willing participant in the process, who is being 
exploited?


Who is sexualizing the model? Is it the photographer who has taken a 
picture of the model? The artist who sketches or paints a likeness of 
the model?


Or is it the viewer who sexualizes and objectifies the model with his or 
her own preconceptions?


There is a very tired old argument that art was invented to get women 
out of their clothes. Perhaps it is true, perhaps it isn't, but the 
argument ignores the reality that the subject has to be a willing 
participant in the process for the process to happen, which effectively 
torpedoes the whole exploitation argument.


This is almost an aside, and should go into another post, but the image 
in question is quite nice, though not one of the best pictures I've seen 
you do of Dorrie.


bill

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Re: Alms for the poor

[Rick Womer]

Ditto.

Which reminds me... Doug, the PDML depends entirely upon your
continuing to draw breath, being available by email, and having a
(relatively) sound mind. When it has "gone dark" for several hours or
a day, I've missed it a lot. Unnecessary anxiety spreads among the
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So, here's an incentive... If you appoint a Sub-Poobah, and provide
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double the donation I just made.

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On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Paul  wrote:
> Done...
>
> On 8/2/2015 12:37 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:
>>
>> Hi, troops. The wolf is at the door and the cupboard is bare. Please
>> consider flipping a few spare coins into the cup at www.pdml.net if
>> you could be so kind. The universe will repay your generosity by
>> making all your children be born naked.
>>
>> hasta,
>>
>> yer humble servant
>>
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Re: OT but still about cameras. Dash Cameras.

[Bruce]

So how well does it work at night?   I'm assuming that it can only show what is 
in your headlights.  Low light sensitivity? 


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On August 2, 2015 4:10:55 AM PDT, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>Hi Bill
>
>I got a Smart Witness SVC1080
>
>
>
>
>
>You can see the computer software interface here:
>
>
>
>Very easy to set up, I have on in my Land Rover, only forward facing
>though. I do have a rear-mounted camera that feeds a separate monitor
>on
>my dash which I just use for reversing as I have zero rear visibility
>by
>eye. The rear camera is pointed downwards so I can see the two rear
>lower corners for when i am reversing and parallel parking etc. The
>angle unfortunately doesn't allow me to see the horizon in the upper
>part, so something I will change in future as being able to record rear
>vision is an excellent idea.
>
>As far as the SVC1080 goes, it gives a hug wide angle view in HD 30fps
>video - useful to be able to resolve car registration plates that might
>only pass by very quickly at the edge of frame. The device records
>speed
>and position via GPS and this is seen in the playback software. Also
>records G force and impact severity. The software is pretty easy to use
>on the computer, allowing quicktime movs to be exported of any time
>frame. If I come across an incident, I simply note time of day and
>later
>can easily retrieve the mishap for public humiliation. As for actual
>incidents involving my vehicle, none yet - but of course you never
>break
>down when you carry a tool kit...
>
>The camera takes Micro SD cards and comes with either a 4GB/ 16GB / 32
>GB card supplied. I got mine cheaply of an Amazon seller after it was
>returned to a retailer, just minus the instructions (which I got from
>the net anyway) and cost me 114 GBP. Note that the device records
>indefinitely, wiping over old data as it goes. This gives plenty of
>recording time to retrieve later - as long as you don't have the 4GB
>card installed. I use a 32GB card and can go back a couple of days in
>journey time - and I do about 150 miles a day on average. In practice
>you would retrieve an incident at the end of the same day anyway.
>
>The Micro SD card is easy to remove while the device is in situ, and
>the
>fitting kit is straightforward. Not much else to say - does what it
>says
>on the box. Feels very reassuring to have it aboard and I am sure will
>prove very useful ultimately.
>
>Cheers
>
>
>
>
>On 1/8/15, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>I've decided I need a dash camera. A guy sideswiped me the other day, 
>>and now I am in a he said/she said situation with the other driver.
>>If I had a dash cam, I would have had proof of what the other driver 
>>did, but I don't.
>>Anyway, as I now see the benefit of having one, I look to the wisdom
>of 
>>the list for advice on what is a good dash cam. I'm not looking for
>the 
>>cheapest, I don't mind spending a bit of coin.
>>I'm wondering if something with a reverse cam wouldn't be a bad idea.
>My 
>>truck is pretty much a rolling blind spot in reverse, backing up is a 
>>leap of faith.
>>Mt reseller of choice on this will probably be amazon.ca
>>
>>Any advice is appreciated.
>>
>>thanks
>>
>>bill

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Re: Alms for the poor

[Bill]

On 02/08/2015 1:31 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Ditto.

Which reminds me... Doug, the PDML depends entirely upon your
continuing to draw breath, being available by email, and having a
(relatively) sound mind. When it has "gone dark" for several hours or
a day, I've missed it a lot. Unnecessary anxiety spreads among the
citizenry.

So, here's an incentive... If you appoint a Sub-Poobah, and provide
that person with the keys and codes to this cyber-kingdom, I will
double the donation I just made.


That extra 50 cents will surely keep the PDML rolling

Sorry Rick, couldn't help it.

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Re: OT but still about cameras. Dash Cameras.

[Darren Addy]

I've been researching these lately for myself, as well. I generally
start on Amazon where I can sort the results by Customer Ratings. Then
I read the reviews (and Q&A). The one that went on my Wish List also
happens to be the #1 seller in the category on Amazon, with a whopping
85% of reviews giving it 5 stars.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B010D8MBD2/

I've got a few things that I need worse than this, but I'll have one
sooner or later.

On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Bruce  wrote:
> So how well does it work at night?   I'm assuming that it can only show what 
> is in your headlights.  Low light sensitivity?
>
>
> --
> Bruce
>
>
>
> On August 2, 2015 4:10:55 AM PDT, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>>Hi Bill
>>
>>I got a Smart Witness SVC1080
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>You can see the computer software interface here:
>>
>>
>>
>>Very easy to set up, I have on in my Land Rover, only forward facing
>>though. I do have a rear-mounted camera that feeds a separate monitor
>>on
>>my dash which I just use for reversing as I have zero rear visibility
>>by
>>eye. The rear camera is pointed downwards so I can see the two rear
>>lower corners for when i am reversing and parallel parking etc. The
>>angle unfortunately doesn't allow me to see the horizon in the upper
>>part, so something I will change in future as being able to record rear
>>vision is an excellent idea.
>>
>>As far as the SVC1080 goes, it gives a hug wide angle view in HD 30fps
>>video - useful to be able to resolve car registration plates that might
>>only pass by very quickly at the edge of frame. The device records
>>speed
>>and position via GPS and this is seen in the playback software. Also
>>records G force and impact severity. The software is pretty easy to use
>>on the computer, allowing quicktime movs to be exported of any time
>>frame. If I come across an incident, I simply note time of day and
>>later
>>can easily retrieve the mishap for public humiliation. As for actual
>>incidents involving my vehicle, none yet - but of course you never
>>break
>>down when you carry a tool kit...
>>
>>The camera takes Micro SD cards and comes with either a 4GB/ 16GB / 32
>>GB card supplied. I got mine cheaply of an Amazon seller after it was
>>returned to a retailer, just minus the instructions (which I got from
>>the net anyway) and cost me 114 GBP. Note that the device records
>>indefinitely, wiping over old data as it goes. This gives plenty of
>>recording time to retrieve later - as long as you don't have the 4GB
>>card installed. I use a 32GB card and can go back a couple of days in
>>journey time - and I do about 150 miles a day on average. In practice
>>you would retrieve an incident at the end of the same day anyway.
>>
>>The Micro SD card is easy to remove while the device is in situ, and
>>the
>>fitting kit is straightforward. Not much else to say - does what it
>>says
>>on the box. Feels very reassuring to have it aboard and I am sure will
>>prove very useful ultimately.
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 1/8/15, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>>I've decided I need a dash camera. A guy sideswiped me the other day,
>>>and now I am in a he said/she said situation with the other driver.
>>>If I had a dash cam, I would have had proof of what the other driver
>>>did, but I don't.
>>>Anyway, as I now see the benefit of having one, I look to the wisdom
>>of
>>>the list for advice on what is a good dash cam. I'm not looking for
>>the
>>>cheapest, I don't mind spending a bit of coin.
>>>I'm wondering if something with a reverse cam wouldn't be a bad idea.
>>My
>>>truck is pretty much a rolling blind spot in reverse, backing up is a
>>>leap of faith.
>>>Mt reseller of choice on this will probably be amazon.ca
>>>
>>>Any advice is appreciated.
>>>
>>>thanks
>>>
>>>bill
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Re: PESO ~ Shadow play

[Knarf]

So there's a photo of a woman naked above the waist and the viewer has 
sexualized her?

Are you serious?

Bruce took that photo knowing that part of its appeal would be sexual. And 
Dorrie agreed to have the photo taken, knowing that sex was a part of it.

Does that mean Bruce exploited Dorrie? No.

By agreeing to be photographed in that way (indeed, being part of the creative 
process) was Dorrie being exploited? Yeah, I think so.

Not by Bruce but by a society that puts a value on the sexualization and 
objectification of women. Being a consenting part of the process doesn't mean 
one isn't being exploited.

We're all socialized to see this as normal and acceptable but does that mean 
it's okay?

Men and women are portrayed far differently by the media. Yes, men can be 
sexualized, but in a very different way, and certainly far less frequently than 
women.

My problem isn't necessarily with this individual photo or with Bruce. It's 
that this is a part of the exploitation and objectification that goes on every 
day on TV, in movies, magazines, and advertising of all kinds. Women ~are~ 
treated differently than men especially in sexual portrayals, and to the extent 
that this photo is a part of that, I feel very uncomfortable. 

Thanks for listening,

frank

On 2 August, 2015 3:28:59 PM EDT, Bill  wrote:
>On 01/08/2015 9:06 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>> Thank you very much for your kind words and support, Frank!
>>
>>
>> If it is of any comfort to you, the model, Dorrie, fully participates
>> in and approves of every part of the image creation process.
>
>I think this is where the whole "exploitation" via sexualization and 
>objectification argument falls on it's face.
>When the subject is a willing participant in the process, who is being 
>exploited?
>
>Who is sexualizing the model? Is it the photographer who has taken a 
>picture of the model? The artist who sketches or paints a likeness of 
>the model?
>
>Or is it the viewer who sexualizes and objectifies the model with his
>or 
>her own preconceptions?
>
>There is a very tired old argument that art was invented to get women 
>out of their clothes. Perhaps it is true, perhaps it isn't, but the 
>argument ignores the reality that the subject has to be a willing 
>participant in the process for the process to happen, which effectively
>
>torpedoes the whole exploitation argument.
>
>This is almost an aside, and should go into another post, but the image
>
>in question is quite nice, though not one of the best pictures I've
>seen 
>you do of Dorrie.
>
>bill

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Re: PESO ~ Shadow play

[Bill]

On 02/08/2015 2:14 PM, Knarf wrote:

So there's a photo of a woman naked above the waist and the viewer
has sexualized her?

Are you serious?


If you see sexualization, then that is what you see.
It may not be what someone else sees.



Bruce took that photo knowing that part of its appeal would be
sexual. And Dorrie agreed to have the photo taken, knowing that sex
was a part of it.

Were you there?


Does that mean Bruce exploited Dorrie? No.

By agreeing to be photographed in that way (indeed, being part of the
creative process) was Dorrie being exploited? Yeah, I think so.


Generally speaking, exploitation doesn't involve consent.


Not by Bruce but by a society that puts a value on the sexualization
and objectification of women. Being a consenting part of the process
doesn't mean one isn't being exploited.


Now it's my turn to ask if you are serious.
Exploitation: "the action or fact of treating someone unfairly in order 
to benefit from their work."


Was the model treated unfairly? Did  Bruce have to threaten her or drug 
her into a stupor to get her to pose?


The whole "exploitation" thing is a construct of people who want to 
control others through shaming them.

If a person wants to be exploited, they will be exploited.
Oops, if they want to be exploited, that takes away the unfair part of 
the definition.






We're all socialized to see this as normal and acceptable but does
that mean it's okay?


If it's normal and acceptable, then by definition it's okay.



Men and women are portrayed far differently by the media. Yes, men
can be sexualized, but in a very different way, and certainly far
less frequently than women.

My problem isn't necessarily with this individual photo or with
Bruce. It's that this is a part of the exploitation and
objectification that goes on every day on TV, in movies, magazines,
and advertising of all kinds. Women ~are~ treated differently than
men especially in sexual portrayals, and to the extent that this
photo is a part of that, I feel very uncomfortable.


If a person is comfortable with the process, then your discomfort is 
your problem, and is something that you are trying to project onto them.




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Re: PESO ~ Shadow play

[Bob W-PDML]

On 2 Aug 2015, at 20:29, Bill  wrote:
> 
>> On 01/08/2015 9:06 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>> Thank you very much for your kind words and support, Frank!
>> 
>> 
>> If it is of any comfort to you, the model, Dorrie, fully participates
>> in and approves of every part of the image creation process.
> 
> I think this is where the whole "exploitation" via sexualization and 
> objectification argument falls on it's face.
> When the subject is a willing participant in the process, who is being 
> exploited?
> 
> [...]
> 
> There is a very tired old argument that art was invented to get women out of 
> their clothes.

[...] I think that's slightly different from what we see here. The art thing 
may be similar to bower birds building their wacky bowers to attract females. 

> Perhaps it is true, perhaps it isn't, but the argument ignores the reality 
> that the subject has to be a willing participant in the process for the 
> process to happen, which effectively torpedoes the whole exploitation 
> argument.

Not really because the way you've presented it is rather shallow and doesn't 
take into account all sorts of factors, such as economic power, which tend on 
average to reduce women's options compared to men's in many ways and to 
normalise other options, such as exploiting their body.

B
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Re: Geso :Tour De Farms

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On 2 Aug 2015, at 17:37, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> 
> That's interesting, Bob. Rugged types huh? Here 500 or so request
> private homes to stay in.
> 
> What's the weather like during the PBP?

As I understand it, it has been quite favourable in recent years, but sometimes 
it is a wash-out. And of course cycling through the night is always likely to 
be a little cooler.

> I thought everyone leaves
> Paris in August.

Yes. Sensible people drive south. The foolish cycle to Brest and back...

> Mystery rider reveal yourself to satisfy our vicarious ride envy.

Now he has done so. For someone used to cycling the Himalayas a nice little 
pootle in the gentle French countryside will be nothing.

B
> 
> 
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> 
>> On 2 Aug 2015, at 03:01, Don Guthrie  wrote:
>> 
>> [...] By the way many riders carry their
>> sleeping bags etc on the bikes and sleep where they drop.
>> 
> 
> That's called "randonn?e" or "audax". The real hardcore don't use
> tents and sleeping bags, but sleep in their clothes in bus shelters or
> on the floor of halls.
> 
> The most famous event is Paris-Brest-Paris (PBP). One of our very own
> PDMLers is doing it this year - 16-20 August. Perhaps he'll show
> himself and we can follow his exploits online.
> 
> http://www.paris-brest-paris.org/index2.php?cat=accueil&lang=en&page=edito
> 
> B
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Re: OT but still about cameras. Dash Cameras.

[Steve Cottrell]

On 2/8/15, Bruce, discombobulated, unleashed:

>So how well does it work at night?   I'm assuming that it can only show
>what is in your headlights.  Low light sensitivity? 

Good point! I haven't actually driven in nighttime hours yet with it -
my truck is out during the day and dusk is currently about 9.30pm so
will take her for a spin soon and report back.

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Re: PESO ~ Shadow play

[Paul Stenquist]

Simply beautiful. Analyzing it beyond that and agonizing over the ways we view 
the human form is utter nonsense. Grow up people!

Paul via phone

> On Jul 29, 2015, at 4:39 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> I passed by this image in my Lightroom catalogue a few times before
> suddenly noticing it today and thinking how it might look with high
> contrast in black and white. I quickly experimented with it, and
> decided to keep the experiment.
> 
> NSFW (nudity).
> 
> http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/125363506792
> 
> Model: Dorrie Mack
> 
> K-3, DA* 16-50/2.8, 50mm, f/11, 1/160th sec, ISO 100
> 
> Lit from above camera left with a single 7 inch reflector (Litemod),
> with 15 degree grid and barn doors.
> 
> Comments really are welcome.
> 
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Re: OT but still about cameras. Dash Cameras.

[Igor PDML-StR]

Bill,

For the reasons similar to yours, I've been looking for a dash camera on 
and off. I couldn't single out any particular cam (and that probably 
prevented me from buying one).
Also, I concluded that user reviews are important, as some cameras fall 
short on delivering the quality despite the specs.
Here is one of the review sites that I bookmarked (either for the summary 
table or for the forum as well):

https://dashcamtalk.com/

So, here a brief summary of what I consider important for consideration
(YMMV):
1. A must (most of them do): recording on a flash memory card, with 
automatic rotation (writing over the oldest ones.

2. Covers wide enough angle of view.
3. Resolution: Should be sufficient to distinguish the license plate
of the other vehicle. (For "hit-and-run" type of situations.)
It looks like 1080p is a reasonable optimum, but definitely not less than 
720p?

4. The same for fps.
5. Night vision should provide a reasonable functionality for the same.
6. Removable vs. permanently mounted  and discrete vs. "in your face"
(Is it an attractive target for someone to break into the car).
7. Rear view vs dual cam vs none.
8. Reliability and variation of quality (QC).
(This includes overheating with some cameras resulting in a blurry 
picture)



Other features that could be useful but not a deal breaker:

9. Motion- or impact-activated (for the parked vehicle being hit or 
vandalized) -- "G-sensor".

10. Working from its own battery for the parked vehicle.
11. GPS.
12. Built-in screen

The last time I looked (about a year ago), - Amazon.com had poor selection 
of such cameras, as many of them were made by companies in Asia (China). 
eBay had a broader selection (both toward the better and worse ends of the 
spectrum).


E.g. in late 2013 or early 2014, I bookmarked this ebay store: 
http://stores.ebay.com/estore009
because they had reasonable and comprehensive listings for dash cameras, 
including comparison tables for the features.

It is still in existence and selling those. That's all I can say.

I might be wrong, but it looks like some more western companies are 
standing behind newer models (and sell them on Amazon).


HTH,

Igor


Bill Sat, 01 Aug 2015 07:45:42 -0700 wrote:

I've decided I need a dash camera. A guy sideswiped me the other day, and 
now I am in a he said/she said situation with the other driver. If I had a 
dash cam, I would have had proof of what the other driver did, but I 
don't. Anyway, as I now see the benefit of having one, I look to the 
wisdom of the list for advice on what is a good dash cam. I'm not looking 
for the cheapest, I don't mind spending a bit of coin. I'm wondering if 
something with a reverse cam wouldn't be a bad idea. My truck is pretty 
much a rolling blind spot in reverse, backing up is a leap of faith.


Mt reseller of choice on this will probably be amazon.ca


Any advice is appreciated.

thanks

bill

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Re: PESO ~ Shadow play

[Knarf]

" >If you see sexualization, then that is what you see.
>It may not be what someone else sees."

She's showing her tits, Bill. Please show me an adult who doesn't think that's 
sexual! At this point I'm not even saying it's bad, but to deny it's sexual? 

" >Generally speaking, exploitation doesn't involve consent."

I guess it depends on what "consent" means, doesn't it? Power, who has it and 
who doesn't, has a huge part to play whether one can be said to truly consent. 

Do think that blacks working on the railways back in the '40s and 50's were 
exploited? They did demeaning work, never rose to supervisory positions yet 
they got decent pay compared to many in their community. Whites got paid much 
more and had much better working conditions. The fact that blacks "agreed" to 
the jobs and pay doesn't mean they weren't exploited.

" >If it's normal and acceptable, then by definition it's okay."

By your definition slavery was "okay".

" >If a person is comfortable with the process, then your discomfort is 
>your problem, and is something that you are trying to project onto
>them."

Actually I think the problem is that so many are comfortable with this. I think 
the fact that so many don't see a disparity between portrayals of men and women 
in the media is the problem. I think the fact that so many see the disparity 
and are okay with it is the problem.

Cheers,

frank



On 2 August, 2015 4:31:25 PM EDT, Bill  wrote:
>On 02/08/2015 2:14 PM, Knarf wrote:
>> So there's a photo of a woman naked above the waist and the viewer
>> has sexualized her?
>>
>> Are you serious?
>
>If you see sexualization, then that is what you see.
>It may not be what someone else sees.
>
>>
>> Bruce took that photo knowing that part of its appeal would be
>> sexual. And Dorrie agreed to have the photo taken, knowing that sex
>> was a part of it.
>Were you there?
>>
>> Does that mean Bruce exploited Dorrie? No.
>>
>> By agreeing to be photographed in that way (indeed, being part of the
>> creative process) was Dorrie being exploited? Yeah, I think so.
>
>Generally speaking, exploitation doesn't involve consent.
>>
>> Not by Bruce but by a society that puts a value on the sexualization
>> and objectification of women. Being a consenting part of the process
>> doesn't mean one isn't being exploited.
>
>Now it's my turn to ask if you are serious.
>Exploitation: "the action or fact of treating someone unfairly in order
>
>to benefit from their work."
>
>Was the model treated unfairly? Did  Bruce have to threaten her or drug
>
>her into a stupor to get her to pose?
>
>The whole "exploitation" thing is a construct of people who want to 
>control others through shaming them.
>If a person wants to be exploited, they will be exploited.
>Oops, if they want to be exploited, that takes away the unfair part of 
>the definition.
>
>
>
>>
>> We're all socialized to see this as normal and acceptable but does
>> that mean it's okay?
>
>If it's normal and acceptable, then by definition it's okay.
>
>>
>> Men and women are portrayed far differently by the media. Yes, men
>> can be sexualized, but in a very different way, and certainly far
>> less frequently than women.
>>
>> My problem isn't necessarily with this individual photo or with
>> Bruce. It's that this is a part of the exploitation and
>> objectification that goes on every day on TV, in movies, magazines,
>> and advertising of all kinds. Women ~are~ treated differently than
>> men especially in sexual portrayals, and to the extent that this
>> photo is a part of that, I feel very uncomfortable.
>
>If a person is comfortable with the process, then your discomfort is 
>your problem, and is something that you are trying to project onto
>them.

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Re: PESO ~ Shadow play

[Knarf]

I think that it's a very "grown up" thing to discuss sexual exploitation, what 
it is, and what it means to individuals and to society.

Cheers,

frank

On 2 August, 2015 5:37:03 PM EDT, Paul Stenquist  
wrote:
>Simply beautiful. Analyzing it beyond that and agonizing over the ways
>we view the human form is utter nonsense. Grow up people!
>
>Paul via phone
>
>> On Jul 29, 2015, at 4:39 PM, Bruce Walker 
>wrote:
>> 
>> I passed by this image in my Lightroom catalogue a few times before
>> suddenly noticing it today and thinking how it might look with high
>> contrast in black and white. I quickly experimented with it, and
>> decided to keep the experiment.
>> 
>> NSFW (nudity).
>> 
>> http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/125363506792
>> 
>> Model: Dorrie Mack
>> 
>> K-3, DA* 16-50/2.8, 50mm, f/11, 1/160th sec, ISO 100
>> 
>> Lit from above camera left with a single 7 inch reflector (Litemod),
>> with 15 degree grid and barn doors.
>> 
>> Comments really are welcome.
>> 
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Re: OT but still about cameras. Dash Cameras.

[Igor PDML-StR]

Regarding that second promo video:
Was this real? This car was dragged for a while without any attempt to 
slow down:

https://youtu.be/SGLAglNTG1U?t=2m18s
Was the cam installed on a huge 18-wheeler? Was the driver asleep
or he just didn't care?

Igor

PS. On this side of the pond, this model seems to be hard to find.
The manufacturer's website for US seems to be semi-alive, without 
possibility to buy from or to find any resellers.

http://www.smartwitness.com/usa/Commercial-Dash-Cameras/SVC1080-LCA.html

One place that sells them in the US, proofpronto.com, has a very bad 
reputation on resellerratings:

http://resellerratings.com/store/Proofpronto_com



On August 2, 2015 4:10:55 AM PDT, Steve Cottrell wrote:


Hi Bill

I got a Smart Witness SVC1080





You can see the computer software interface here:





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Re: Alms for the poor

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Sent

Dave

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Re: Alms for the poor

[Daniel J. Matyola]

How much does it cost to operate the PDML for a year\?

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Re: Geso :Tour De Farms

[John]

I vaguely remember from my school days that "Pork Bellies" was a
derisive slang term for the sutlers & other camp-following "merchants"
who trailed along behind the the Union Armies during the American Civil
War ... derived from the belly being the lowest part of the pig.

Today they'd be described as whale-shit, there being nothing lower
because it's on the bottom of the ocean.

On 8/1/2015 10:00 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:

Thanks Igor, the tent at sunset seems to a favorite anytime I show
these. So thanks to PDML folks for confirming that.

The organized tents are indeed part of  paid service so that when
riders hit town the riders are directed  to their spot where tents
sleeping bags hot showers and I maybe food is waiting for them. The
purveyors are called the "Pork Bellies" the pig being the unofficial
mascot due in no small part to my sister -in-law's art. I think the
price is around $100 per day but the hot showers alone are almost
worth that after riding 60 miles in humid Iowa.

I went by this spot at noon just after they were set up. I visualized
how this would look at sunset and returned with the K-3 & 50mm and
went on to the other two camps pictured. The less organized camp was a
riding club who reserved the spot. By the way many riders carry their
sleeping bags etc on the bikes and sleep where they drop.


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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 12:32:08 -0400 (EDT)
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I especially like the photo of the tent-camp with the (morning?)
sun shining on it (52329).

While I see one photo with different tents, I am surprised to see such a
uniform camp in that photo. Is it some type of a tent-hotel, provided
by some organization/company?

Igor


On Jul 30, 2015, at 5:32 PM, Donald Guthrie wrote:


Every year for the last 40, thousands (20,000 est this year) gather in
western Iowa to ride their bikes from the Missouri river to the Mississippi
river in one week 60-70miles a day. . They ride everything from unicycles to
tandem tricycles. They are all ages, sizes, and both sexes (more men than
women) It is a different route each year and many ride year after year. Some
of them start the ride by biking the route from east to west and then joining
the others for the return. They eat a lot of carbs drink lots of beer and
profess to have a great time. Many find out that Iowa is not as flat as they
had heard.

I rode a very short way with them. BTW my brother dubbed the ride Tour de
farms many years ago and made a tidy sum for many years selling T-shirts on
the ride with the slogan and original artwork by his wife.

This year they stopped in my hometown and here is small gallery of their
stop. Some Pentax; some not. C&C as always.

https://www.flickr.com/gp/valdon/J65M49




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Re: Geso :Tour De Farms

[John]

On 8/2/2015 12:37 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:

That's interesting, Bob. Rugged types huh? Here 500 or so request
private homes to stay in.

What's the weather like during the PBP? I thought everyone leaves
Paris in August.


Yeah, they do. They all get on their bikes and ride over to Brest.  8-D

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Re: OT but still about cameras. Dash Cameras.

[John]

Doesn't give much information about their availability in North America.

On 8/2/2015 7:10 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Hi Bill

I got a Smart Witness SVC1080





You can see the computer software interface here:



Very easy to set up, I have on in my Land Rover, only forward facing
though. I do have a rear-mounted camera that feeds a separate monitor on
my dash which I just use for reversing as I have zero rear visibility by
eye. The rear camera is pointed downwards so I can see the two rear
lower corners for when i am reversing and parallel parking etc. The
angle unfortunately doesn't allow me to see the horizon in the upper
part, so something I will change in future as being able to record rear
vision is an excellent idea.

As far as the SVC1080 goes, it gives a hug wide angle view in HD 30fps
video - useful to be able to resolve car registration plates that might
only pass by very quickly at the edge of frame. The device records speed
and position via GPS and this is seen in the playback software. Also
records G force and impact severity. The software is pretty easy to use
on the computer, allowing quicktime movs to be exported of any time
frame. If I come across an incident, I simply note time of day and later
can easily retrieve the mishap for public humiliation. As for actual
incidents involving my vehicle, none yet - but of course you never break
down when you carry a tool kit...

The camera takes Micro SD cards and comes with either a 4GB/ 16GB / 32
GB card supplied. I got mine cheaply of an Amazon seller after it was
returned to a retailer, just minus the instructions (which I got from
the net anyway) and cost me 114 GBP. Note that the device records
indefinitely, wiping over old data as it goes. This gives plenty of
recording time to retrieve later - as long as you don't have the 4GB
card installed. I use a 32GB card and can go back a couple of days in
journey time - and I do about 150 miles a day on average. In practice
you would retrieve an incident at the end of the same day anyway.

The Micro SD card is easy to remove while the device is in situ, and the
fitting kit is straightforward. Not much else to say - does what it says
on the box. Feels very reassuring to have it aboard and I am sure will
prove very useful ultimately.

Cheers




On 1/8/15, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:


I've decided I need a dash camera. A guy sideswiped me the other day,
and now I am in a he said/she said situation with the other driver.
If I had a dash cam, I would have had proof of what the other driver
did, but I don't.
Anyway, as I now see the benefit of having one, I look to the wisdom of
the list for advice on what is a good dash cam. I'm not looking for the
cheapest, I don't mind spending a bit of coin.
I'm wondering if something with a reverse cam wouldn't be a bad idea. My
truck is pretty much a rolling blind spot in reverse, backing up is a
leap of faith.
Mt reseller of choice on this will probably be amazon.ca

Any advice is appreciated.

thanks

bill




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Re: OT but still about cameras. Dash Cameras.

[Bill]

On 02/08/2015 5:10 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Hi Bill

I got a Smart Witness SVC1080





You can see the computer software interface here:




Dang. Not one that is available in my market unless there is a lookalike 
under a different name.




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Re: Alms for the poor

[Bill]

On 02/08/2015 5:23 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

How much does it cost to operate the PDML for a year\?


It's not the PDML that costs, it's all the beer that Doug has to drink 
to numb himself enough to not just turn the thing off.

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Hi, troops. The wolf is at the door and the cupboard is bare. Please
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making all your children be born naked.

hasta,

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Re: Alms for the poor

[Rick Womer]

Bill,

50 cents was the =doubled= amount! You surely don't expect me to shell
out a whole dollar, do you?
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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>
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>> consider flipping a few spare coins into the cup at www.pdml.net if
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>> making all your children be born naked.
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>> hasta,
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Re: Alms for the poor

[Jack Davis]

I'm working on it Doug. The donation form is refusing to except a couple 
different credit card numbers.
I believe it may have something to do with the fact that I had a Pay Pal 
account at one time.
It's telling me to change either the credit card number or my email address.
Tried my wife's email address and a different credit card, but...?
Hoping to avoid snail mail.

Jack

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Subject: Alms for the poor

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Re: PESO - The Man in the Hat

[Knarf]

He's waiting for something...

Thanks for the comment, Dave. 

Cheers,

frank

On 1 August, 2015 1:04:20 AM EDT, David Mann  wrote:
>He looks like a scavenger waiting for the lions to finish.
>
>Cheers,
>Dave
>
>> On Aug 1, 2015, at 3:13 pm, Knarf  wrote:
>> 
>> Not much to say:
>> 
>> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/07/the-man-in-hat.html?m=1
>> 
>> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
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Re: PESO - The Man in the Hat

[Knarf]

Thanks, Bob. 

I believe they're real Canadians, they hid their hockey sticks behind the rocks.

Cheers,

frank

On 1 August, 2015 4:03:18 AM EDT, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
>Nice. Are they Real Canadians?
>
>It's another case of life imitating art - compare the chap on the left
>with the chap here, dangling his feet in the water:
>
>http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/georges-seurat-bathers-at-asnieres
>
>B
>
>
>> On 1 Aug 2015, at 04:13, Knarf  wrote:
>> 
>> Not much to say:
>> 
>> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/07/the-man-in-hat.html?m=1
>> 
>> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
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Re: PESO - The Man in the Hat

[Knarf]

Thanks, Dan, glad you enjoyed it.

Cheers,

frank

On 1 August, 2015 7:14:44 AM EDT, "Daniel J. Matyola"  
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>That is a very interesting and effective composition, Frank.
>
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>On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:13 PM, Knarf 
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>> Not much to say:
>>
>> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/07/the-man-in-hat.html?m=1
>>
>> Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
>>
>> Cheers,
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Re: PESO - The Man in the Hat

[Knarf]

Appreciate the comment, Chris. 

Cheers,

frank

On 1 August, 2015 8:31:00 AM EDT, Chris Mitchell  
wrote:
>Nice one Frank. I like the hint of mystery.
>
>Chris
>
>On 1 August 2015 at 04:13, Knarf  wrote:
>> Not much to say:
>>
>> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/07/the-man-in-hat.html?m=1
>>
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>>
>> Cheers,
>>
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Re: PESO - The Man in the Hat

[Knarf]

Nice words. Thanks, Jack! 

Cheers,

frank

On 1 August, 2015 8:35:11 AM EDT, Jack Davis  wrote:
>Wonderful well composed catch, Frank. 
>What a quick and talented eye you have!
>
>J
>
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>Subject: PESO - The Man in the Hat
>
>Not much to say:
>
>http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/07/the-man-in-hat.html?m=1
>
>Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. 
>
>Cheers,
>
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Re: PESO - The Man in the Hat

[Knarf]

Perhaps he was being shunned?

I thought it was humerous as well. Appreciate the comment, Bruce. 

Cheers,

frank

On 1 August, 2015 11:08:27 AM EDT, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>I love this, Frank. Very humourous!
>
>I wonder if the others made that fellow go stand in the figurative
>corner?
>
>On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:13 PM, Knarf 
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>> Not much to say:
>>
>> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/07/the-man-in-hat.html?m=1
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Re: PESO - The Man in the Hat

[Knarf]

Haven't heard from the cops yet. I release nothing without a subpoena. 

;-)

Cheers,

frank

On 1 August, 2015 2:29:47 PM EDT, Marco Alpert  wrote:
>That photo is likely to be very valuable when the bodies of the family
>in the foreground are inevitably discovered in a shallow grave.
>
>- Marco
>
>On Jul 31, 2015, at 8:13 PM, Knarf  wrote:
>
>> Not much to say:
>> 
>> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/07/the-man-in-hat.html?m=1
>> 
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Re: OT but still about cameras. Dash Cameras.

[Igor PDML-StR]

Darren,

I use the same approach in researching item, but let me warn you about 
this product. Do not trust the reviews score, instead read a few negative 
reviews.

It was introduce to Amazon less than half a month ago (July 22, 2015):
http://camelcamelcamel.com/Vafru-NHD-1080P-170Degrees-dashboard-camcorder/product/B010D8MBD2

If you read the last two 2-star reviews:
http://www.amazon.com/Vafru-NHD-1080P-170Degrees-dashboard-camcorder/product-reviews/B010D8MBD2/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_2?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=recent&reviewerType=all_reviews&filterByStar=two_star&pageNumber=1
you can see the real reviews. I suspect most of the 5-star reviews are
fake or something is wrong with them (e.g. those guys got the item for 
free, as one of the authors suggested).

Look, e.g. at these reviewers (I picked them randomly):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/AQ71TXXH1QL6B/
http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A1P8ABIXH0EO5C/
http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A3C4XX14QZG589/
All the product they reviewed are by Vafru, all within the same days, and 
all are 5-stars.

Really?
I bet, the rest of those 5-star reviews are the same way.

I wouldn't buy any Vafru products.

HTH,

Igor



 Darren Addy Sun, 02 Aug 2015 13:03:59 -0700 wrote:

I've been researching these lately for myself, as well. I generally
start on Amazon where I can sort the results by Customer Ratings. Then
I read the reviews (and Q&A). The one that went on my Wish List also
happens to be the #1 seller in the category on Amazon, with a whopping
85% of reviews giving it 5 stars.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B010D8MBD2/



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Re: Alms for the poor

[Subash]

done.

On Sun, 2 Aug 2015 13:37:29 -0400
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> Hi, troops. The wolf is at the door and the cupboard is bare. Please
> consider flipping a few spare coins into the cup at www.pdml.net if
> you could be so kind. The universe will repay your generosity by
> making all your children be born naked.
> 
> hasta,
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Re: Alms for the poor

[Bill]

On 02/08/2015 6:13 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Bill,

50 cents was the =doubled= amount! You surely don't expect me to shell
out a whole dollar, do you?



Stupid of me, I admit it.



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Re: Alms for the poor

[Doug Brewer]

Rick, Mark is the deputy, of course, though I have not yet gathered up
all the keys for presentation, owing to a personal aversion to
psychological violence. But if I must, I must.

On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> Ditto.
>
> Which reminds me... Doug, the PDML depends entirely upon your
> continuing to draw breath, being available by email, and having a
> (relatively) sound mind. When it has "gone dark" for several hours or
> a day, I've missed it a lot. Unnecessary anxiety spreads among the
> citizenry.
>
> So, here's an incentive... If you appoint a Sub-Poobah, and provide
> that person with the keys and codes to this cyber-kingdom, I will
> double the donation I just made.
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> Rick
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> On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Paul  wrote:
>> Done...
>>
>> On 8/2/2015 12:37 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, troops. The wolf is at the door and the cupboard is bare. Please
>>> consider flipping a few spare coins into the cup at www.pdml.net if
>>> you could be so kind. The universe will repay your generosity by
>>> making all your children be born naked.
>>>
>>> hasta,
>>>
>>> yer humble servant
>>>
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Re: Alms for the poor

[Bill]

On 02/08/2015 7:45 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

Rick, Mark is the deputy, of course, though I have not yet gathered up
all the keys for presentation, owing to a personal aversion to
psychological violence. But if I must, I must.


Is it worth it for a quarter?


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Re: Alms for the poor

[Doug Brewer]

Dan, server costs right at $900 a year, plus periodic incidentals.

On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
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>
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>> consider flipping a few spare coins into the cup at www.pdml.net if
>> you could be so kind. The universe will repay your generosity by
>> making all your children be born naked.
>>
>> hasta,
>>
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Re: OT but still about cameras. Dash Cameras.

[Igor PDML-StR]

Bruce,
 From what I understood, some have low-light (possibly IR?) sensitivity, 
while others rely on what shows in the headlights. Baby monitors and 
surveillance IP cams that are in a comparable price range have somewhat 
similar properties, and seem to provide similar quantity images.



Igor


Bruce Sun, 02 Aug 2015 12:41:46 -0700 wrote:

So how well does it work at night?   I'm assuming that it can only show 
what is in your headlights.  Low light sensitivity?




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Re: Alms for the poor

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Doug.

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On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Doug Brewer
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> Dan, server costs right at $900 a year, plus periodic incidentals.
>
> On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  
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>>> consider flipping a few spare coins into the cup at www.pdml.net if
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>>> making all your children be born naked.
>>>
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>>>
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Re: PESO: White Hibiscus

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Don and Paul.

This is a hardy hibiscus, Paul.  Unlike a Rose of Sharon, it dies back
to the ground over the winter, new shoots emerge in the spring, and
the blooms come out in July.  It is pretty prolific once it starts to
bloom.  Here's what the bush looks like:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18063534&size=md

There were a few blooms that were even larger, but they were fading or
partly eaten by Japanese Beetles.

Yes, Don, pure white is  bit unusual for Hibiscus flowers.  Most are
red, yellow, pink or white with red or pink centers.  The State Flower
of Hawaii is a native yellow hibiscus:

http://www.statesymbolsusa.org/symbol-official-item/hawaii/state-flower/pua-aloalo

Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Do you take it inside for the winter? Or is it the hardy Hibiscus variant? 
> True Hibiscus can't tolerate temps below about 30 f.
>
> Paul via phone
>
>> On Aug 1, 2015, at 10:20 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
>>
>> All we see around here are red or yellow maybe pink/orange.. I saw the
>> largest  red  I haver come across this afternoon. But I had no time to
>> measure.
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2015 01:33:51 -0400
>> From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 
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>> Subject: PESO: White Hibiscus
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>> My white hibiscus bush is in full bloom this week:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18062520&size=lg
>>
>> This gives an idea of the size of these magnificent flowers:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18062521
>>
>> K-5 II S, DA 18-135 zoom
>>
>> Comments are invited.
>>
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Re: PESO: White Hibiscus

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Jack and Bruce!

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> That's just fabulous, Dan! It looks like a botanical print ready to be
> mounted and hung over a hallway table. It's a gem.
>
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 1:33 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  
> wrote:
>> My white hibiscus bush is in full bloom this week:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18062520&size=lg
>>
>> This gives an idea of the size of these magnificent flowers:
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18062521
>>
>> K-5 II S, DA 18-135 zoom
>>
>> Comments are invited.
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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PESO: The Streets of New York

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Something a bit different, for me at least:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18063531&size=lg
K-01, DA 1:2.8 40 mm XS
Comments are invited.

Dan Matyola
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