Re: help recovering files in an image after burning a CD
On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 08:12:25PM +1030, adphoto wrote: i recently burnt a selection of my digital photographs as an image to CD with nero 5 now all i have on the CD is 635 meg size image but no way of accessing files. Anyone know how? Cos this is my backup and my system buggered up so these are the only copies i have. Does it look like one single, large file on the CD? In that case, programs like WinIso and Isobuster may be able to access the individual pictures. Of not, you have to find out what other container format is used. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything.
Re: Film vs. Digital (WAS: Re: RE: HypotheticalQuestion)
On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 05:29:22PM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Ronald Arvidsson Subject: Film vs. Digital (WAS: Re: RE: HypotheticalQuestion) Improvement of the medium follows roughly computers, i.e., a doubling of capacity roughly every 18 months or so (take with a grain of salt). HUH??? Prove it This must be Moore's Law. A brief explanation is on http://www.intel.com/research/silicon/mooreslaw.htm . -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything.
Re: A nice baby:)
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 03:09:02PM +0100, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Artur Led=F3chowski?= wrote: Check this out, guys:)) http://www.allegro.pl/show_item.php?item=8628799 The price is PLN 2, which is about $5000 Baby? That's Big Bertha! -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything.
Re: Phot labs in The Hague
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 10:36:26AM -0500, tom wrote: Anyone here dutch? I'm looking for a good photo lab in The Hague. Let your fingers do the walking. The addresses I found are: Hafo, Wagenstraat 67 Degens, Hanenburglaan 375 Fotovak, Beeklaan 309 FQL Den Haag, Laan van Nieuw Oost Indie 100 Karst, Prins Hendrikstraat 39 Universapresse, Lubeckstraat 14 I have no experience with any of them, but I found out that Hafo does handle medium- and large format. They have a digital lab as well. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything.
Re: No Pentax D-SLR on Photokina?
Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The future existance of film based cameras might be debateble, but I always thought good lenses were important. I know Photoshop can do wonders, but no amount of sharpening can replace high resolution lenses. Am I missing something? I don't think so. We may change recording media, but we still need the lenses to project the images on the media and Pentax glass is *very* good at that. Anyone interested in a 67II with a DCS Pro back from Kodak? -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything.
Re: Applied SciFi blooper
Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is interesting - is this in commercial use now? I remember hearing of a techology which could scan film without developing, but destroyed the film in the process - is this the very same? Yes. The very same process was announced a few years ago. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything.
Re: cows
happyness [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cip.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de/~msweigel/cows.html dont have a cow man have a million we need more cows The author forgot the pre tags. You must view the source to see the desired effect. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Always at the ready - OT
Francis Alviar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to all, How many of you guys bring your camera equipment to work if you have a primary means of employment and photography is your hobby? ... That would make a good excuse for buying an Optio. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MX - what's FP?
jar0n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all.. what's the thing labelled FP? it's just above the flash sync.. If you are going to use flash bulbs, plug the cable into the FP socket. Use the X socket (or the hotshoe) for electronic flash. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Disturbing virus developments
Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Some disconcerting news is that there appears to be a new virus that infects jpeg image files, it seems that the current variant is fairly benign however I'm sure it won't stay that way for long. See the following links for details: [...] There are no such viruses in the wild. This one is - at best - a proof- of-concept. More important, your system must be infected with another virus first in order to execute code embedded in JPGs. Solution: Ditch Outlook (Outlook Express). You might want to ditch all Windows stuff at some point. Read also http://features.slashdot.org/features/02/06/14/1343223.shtml?tid=166 . -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Eclipse photo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The astronomy picture of the day today has a grea photo of an annular eclipse. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html Is it my new monitor, or do the sun and moon appear oval in this photo? Blame it on the atmosphere. The sun (and moon) are just above the horizon. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Slashdot Poll
Evan Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know several PDMLers are also slashdot.org readers I urge you to check out todays poll. Best medium format camera, Pentax is currently in third trailing Hasselblad and Cowboy Neal. Just added one more vote for Pentax. The last - and most popular - entry reads `CowboyNeal Eschews Chemistry'. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax ME and ME super
James Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone tell me if the focus-screen on an Pentax ME and ME super is removable? You can have it repaced. You are not supposed to do that yourself, unless you have the right tools and a service manual for it. There is some fluff on top of the screen, and I would like to clean it, but how? Compressed air might do the job, but the dirt and dust may end up in places where it hurts *much* more, like between the shutter blades or in the film chamber (causing scratches on the film). Since the fluff is on the screen: Learn to live with it (if you don't dare to touch it with a soft brush), it won't affect the images on film. [Rest deleted.] -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ME Super can do slow flash sync?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi gang. Reading ME Super user's manual, it seems the only way to use flash is to use the 125/X sync position in mode dial. But I mounted a flash and put the dial in Auto, and the flash fires no matter what speed the camera chooses. My question is: the camera syncs properly? Obviously it will not with higher than sync speeds, but with lower speeds? Or the flash fires out of syncro? I would love to be able to do slow sync. Why don't you give it a try? Or use speeds like 1/60 and 1/30 with the mode dial set to `M'. The flash should fire as soon as the first shutter blade completes its travel. This would not be the first undocumented feature in a Pentax manual. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pinhole Question
Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When photographing in Pinhole Mode does one use a body cap or a lens with a lens cap with a pinhole in it? It seems that the LX would be an excellent choice for pinhole photography. Most likely with a body cap. You may want to use extension tubes or bellows. Wow! A pinhole camera with zoom capability. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pinhole Question
Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Putting a pinhole body cap on extension tubes or bellows.] Wow is right! Your comment just got me thinking about the possibility of using the helicoid extension tube with a pre-drilled body cap. Infinitely variable focal lengths without the hassle of a bellows, which is bigger, bulkier, and more difficult to zoom. The helicoid will extend and retract just like focusing a lens. What a nifty idea. Danm, I forgot that option. I don't have a clue as to what the view through the finder would be with a pinhole cap in place of the lens, but maybe I'll just drill a tiny hole in a cheap cap just to see the effect. Has anyone used a pinhole cap on a Pentax? Can you see the image in the finder? Don't expect too much from the viewfinder image. It *will* be very dark, even on a bright, sunny day. What have you got to lose? Body caps are not that expensive. Ok, I never tried it, but I did try the DOF preview (with a MX and the lens stopped down to F22) and the image was hardly visible. [Rest deleted] -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FONG: Can anyone in Europe help this person?
Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: WTB: pentax K wide angle lens Date: 4 May 2002 09:59:12 -0700 From: Ioan Alexandre Romoscanu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: rec.photo.marketplace.35mm I am looking for a wide angle Pentax K-mount lens, anything from 14 to 28 mm. Try Ebay Germany (http://www.ebay.de). There is at least one 2.8/28mm lens listed. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: FS: 40mm Pancake Lens
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Pancake lens for USD 30] Excellent score!! There doesn't seem to be a market for this equipment over here. You will probably find much higher prices in the northwestern part of the Netherlands. And you didn't mention that on the best bargain (or whatever it was) thread of a few weeks ago? I must have missed it because of the backlog I hat that time. You got an excellent deal on that one, my friend... Believe it or not, that shop is still in business. About eBay: There is a `pancake' for sale on ebay.de . The highest bid so far is EUR 96 with one more day to go. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: leaf shutter for 35mm? (was RE: how good)
Mishka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those saying it's difficult: Olympus Stylus Epic, street price $100 for the whole camera, 35mm/2.8 lens, shutter 4-1/1000s. This is a ps camera with separate viewfinder. That is a completely different story. As far as OPC, Pentax is making it for 645 and 67. Seems like a logical step to make one or too for 35mm as well. SMC-FA 85mm/2 LS -- wouldn't THAT be sweet? That would make a great addition to the lens catalog. Would the expected sales volume justify its introduction? Would such a lens work with any K-mount body? -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: leaf shutter for 35mm? (was RE: how good)
In local.pentax, you wrote: Which brings me to the question, does anyone know, what may be the reason for not making leaf shutter lenses for 35mm SLRs, like they have for P-6x7 (and almost everything 6x6)? That would bring sync speed to the *really* nice 1/1000! Maybe because of their complexity. I haven't seen leaf shutters that can do 1/1000. They usually max out at 1/500, some at 1/400. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: How Much Film Do You Carry
In local.pentax, you wrote: How much film do you carry when out shooting just for the day or a few hours? This question was prompted by someone on the list mentioning that s/he went out with only one roll of fast film in the camera. [...] 3 36-exp. rolls should keep me going for a day. Most of the time I use Fuji Superia (ISO 200). I have an ISO 1600 roll with me just in case... -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Uhhhhh...crack smoker?
Steve Knobbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This guy must be insane: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1345771159 What? A BIN price of $ 25 for a rear lens cap? A typical price would be one dollar at most. Go buy some stuff from your favorite store, or have some film developed. Then ask for a lens cap. Don't be surprised if you get one for free. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital PIC
Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dry film processing yields digital images: http://www.asf.com/products/pic/ Any comments? This page is more than buzzword compliant. OTOH, it is old news, probably vapourware. The first message about this - and the company behind it - on news:rec.photo.film+labs is dated June 6th, 2000. I must admit that `Applied Science Fiction' is a funny name. Om the bottom of the page: `ASF expects Digital PIC to be released for commercial use by the 2nd quarter of 2002.' Which is real soon now. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MX seems to have huge problem..........
Denny B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just purchased a Pentax MX all seems well except for the internal lightmeter. I was using it yesterday, took my young daughter to the local outdoor ice rink, there was lots of snow around and it was a bright sunny day. It was almost impossible to see the lighted LED's to take a reading, I had never encountered anybody mentioning this problem before, it is almost useless trying to read the meter under the conditions explained. Luckily I had my Pentax Spotmeter V with, which did the light reading for me as usual flawlessly. This is one of the situations where an eyecup may help you. As a bonus, it will inprove your view on the viewfinder image. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: KMP Copyright Infringement(s)
Bojidar Dimitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, What can I do against this: http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1334153963 That is a copyright infringment. The serial # says all. I don't mean legally, but I would appreciate ideas on how to place the copyright notices so that they are not so easy to remove. Am I dreaming when thinking of images that do not allow themselves to be screencaptured and edited? How about writing your copyright message on the item itself that in the (in this case white) background? -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A little 6x7 enabling
Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [About using LX focussing screens in MX bodies] About a 1/3rd of a stop. However it wouldn't be the same as using a ME Super. That's easy to compensate for (should be easy to figure out for MX users). I don't have hands-on experience with the ME Super (but with its predecessor, the ME). AFAIK they are very similar, apart from the shutter (and its controls). Question: Does the manual for the ME Super mention the `shutter cocked' indicator? My copy of the manual (for the ME) doesn't, but that indicator is there (and shown in the pictures in the manual, but never mentioned). Back to the 67 dept.: It's not for me. I could afford a basic 67 system, but I must put it to work *much* more often than I do with my current 35mm setup, just to justify its purchase. Using (not wasting) one roll of film per week is the absolute minimum. But if someone tells me he/she hits the limitations of the 35mm format, I'll say: Pentax has a solution for that (even two; don't forget the (intermediate) 645 format)! -- http://ebg13.com \\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A little 6x7 enabling
T Rittenhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heck, I am having that problem with my ME Super. Wonder if I could get a grid screen for it. Anybody know? That is not an easy task. Try to find a decent MX body. You can put LX screens in it, but the meter will be off. I don't know by how much, but you can compensate for that (using the film speed dial). -- http://ebg13.com \\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: 67 Negative copying: eek!
Oliver Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks.. Once more I return to the font of all knowledge: [Using Duplicating film.] QUESTIONs:... How in HECKS name can I calculate 5 footcandles (54 lux)... what f-stop is this? I can measure light using my Sekonic 501... Looking at the curves, I'm going for density of 1 with 20 second exposure (20 lux seconds)... Is this correct, or have I got it wrong? The `Ultimate Exposure Computer' might help you. There is a EV/Lux/ Footcandle chart near the bottom of that page. I guess that you will end up around EV 4.5 . http://www.fredparker.com/ultexp1.htm http://www.kodak.com/cluster/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/f11/f009_0149ac.gif [URL repaired.] -- http://ebg13.com \\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT:I Need More Speed
Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gang Maybe someone can help me out (Yeah, I know - Which way did you come in?) I just installed a 56K modem and the fastest connection speed I've been able to get is about 45K. I've tried connecting to several phone numbers, but 45K has been the upper limit Is there some way to adjust modem settings on the computer to speed things up? I'm using Win95 on this old beast. The maximum speed you get depends on the quality of your phone line. Are you sure that the in-house wiring is good? You may have a noisy phone line, sonething your telco is supposed to correct. Back in the old days I used a 9600 bps modem but it wouldn't go past 4800 bps. So I called KPN (the telco here) to ask them what to do about it. The lady on the other end knew *nothing* about modems so she could not help me. Some time afterward I used that modem again - without changing anything - and suddenly I had a 9600 bps connection! Later I learned that KPN replaced an analog exchange in a nearby town with a digital one and the speed cap was caused by that old exchange. -- http://ebg13.com \\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Feb PUG is smokin'
Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awesome assemblage of images this month! Thumbnails won't load in Mozilla (all except Annsan's, that is). Thumbnails do load fine w/Satan's browser, however (that would Explorer). The thumbnail of Ann's entry is the only one whose name *does not* start with a space. How did the spaces get in anyway? -- http://ebg13.com \\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Must resist...
Antti-Pekka Virjonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:35:08 + (UTC), Antti-Pekka Virjonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although Aaron (and the rest) have done a lot of enabling, I am still resisting to buy the 67 II... Don't. What is the 35mm equivalent of the 67's 45mm ? 28mm ? How good is it optically ? More like the 24mm. No comments on its quality. -- http://ebg13.com \\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: unsubscribe pentax-discuss
Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unsubscribe pentax-discuss That message should have gone to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- http://ebg13.com \\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Typeface Wanted
Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ... I'm looking for a typeface like this one, or something quite similar. http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/temp/bits-gif.html Any suggestions? There is one at www.goldnagl.at/gf/halda/ . A search for `typewriter font' at Google will turn up more fonts. -- http://ebg13.com \\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Things we can all be glad of
Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Collin Brendemuehl wrote: ... That Pentax didn't make a model KY Ah but it's a pity they never made a model K9...to go with one of those bow wow Takumars. Never mind. It would be a dog anyway... -- http://ebg13.com \\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MX hot-shoe and X-sync
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys. I noticed a lot of MX's are advertised on eBay with non-funtioning X-syncs and hot-shoes. My MX suffers the same problem although the FP sync will fire the flash. Is this a common problem for MX's? Is it repairable? what shutter speeds does FP sync at? My guess is that the FP socket is used in combination with flash bulbs. Bulbs need some time to ignite and burn quite long, compared to the duration of an electronic flash. That would mean that you could use any shutter speed with flash (bulbs only). -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A Happy and Prosperous New Year to Everyone!
frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Johan, Stalin Organ? You'll have to enlighten me on that one! Must be `Stalin's Organ'. It is an array of grenade/rocket launchers. The original one used to launch Katyusha rockets during World War II. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: A Website (Hey, I'm trying)
In local.pentax, you wrote: I guess I'm going to try to learn as much as I can. Richard's site si quite stunning on my browser and screen. However I'm at 1280 x 1024, and my simple Click and Build looks good on my monitor as well. Wouldn't it be nice if there was a consistent standard? I suppose it's coming, but it may take a while. Paul HTML is not too hard to learn. Just keep it simple and don't waste time on positioning your website components. Let the browser take care of the formatting. Also, when previewing your page, resize the browser window and see what happens. `Philip and Alex's Guide to Web Publishing' may be helpful too. It is available at http://www.arsdigita.com/books/panda/ . -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Gun stocks
Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of curiosity, how many of you long-lens-lovers use a gun stock for mounting and shooting those big beasts? Do you mean some kind of shoulder rest? A Pentax photo sniper? -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: No more Nikon girls
In local.pentax, you wrote: EEK! Does that mean a Polaroid option is open? There is one on http://elsa.photo.net . -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Bastard Penguin
Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't usually pass along jokes, but I thought this was hilarious. http://www.newlabour.co.uk/penguin.htm Funny indeed. Penguin #1 waddles past penguin #2. Penguin #2 sticks out its left leg, causing the other one to trip over it and fall into the water. Not that penguins hate that... -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Best way to clean camera?
Delano Mireles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Specifically need to clean dust and lint out off the mirror and finder/prism (?). I've been trying to blow it out and using lens cleaning tissues wrapped around my finger and to no avail! This is getting a bit frustrating - any tips or ideas would be appreciated. I have seen someone using a silk cloth to wipe the dust off the mirror and using compressed air to blow the dust away. The mirror survived that treatment; I would not recommend the compressed air since you might blow the dust into really inconvenient places (like between the shutter blades). All this happend to *my* ME. Well, if you don't dare to touch the mirror, then don't. The dust spots may be a nuisence; as long as they do not appear on your film, don't care. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: how does a graduated filter work?
Frank Wajer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, can anyone explain to me how a graduated filter works. I think that all light from all points in the scene go through the entire filter/lens so how can a graduated filter darken the sky relative to the (fore)ground. The distance between the filter and the optical center of the lens (which is behind the front element) does the trick. If you use an extreme wide-angle lens at small aperture you get a pretty sharp clear - coloured transition. Question: What filter type do you (plan to) use? -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The weakest link?
Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: [Image file formats with color management data included.] I believe the PNG graphics format does that. I'm not sure because I don't use that format (pretty much no one does) and, like GIF, it's supposedly not very well suited to photographic images. The PNG format does support up to 48-bit truecolor or 16-bit grayscale, with lossless compression. In addition, a complete color management system (sRGB) is supported. It is not the most convenient format for publishing since a typical PUG entry would be around 500 kB in size. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: infra-red film
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to all, In my photography class one of our projects will require us to shoot with infra-red film. As the instructor was describing the project and the film he also noted the limitations of the film. My question is: Can I use this film with a Pentax K1000 camera? That camera/film combination should work. The instructor was telling us that the lens has to have a setting for infra-red and I don't see that on the K1000's lens (standard 50mm/f2). Has anyone ever used infra-red film with a K1000? Look at the DOF scale on the lens. Starting from the big orange mark (that indicates the set aperture), the second mark to the left should be orange, not white like the others. According to the MX manual, you should focus as usual, then turn the focussing ring so that the measured distance aligns with the IR mark. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Windows GIMP questions
Richard Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: folks, I downloaded the Windows version of Gimp like a few people on the list suggested; my first impression is pretty favorable, though I did come across 2 or 3 silly little user interface bugs/quirks which can be worked around. [..] Is there anyone who could tell me how to do this perspective adjustment? Open the `Tool options' dialog for the transform tool by either double- clicking the Transform tool button or - choosing File - Dialogs - Tool options. Next, choose the desired transform type. Next, move the mouse cursor to the picture you want to distort, single click the left button and move the corners around. There is a comprehensive Gimp manual available online at http://manual.gimp.org . -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Windows GIMP questions
Anand DHUPKAR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: looks like I am somehow out of sink. Most likely, yes. What is GIMP, please ? Is it a editing software ? It is the GNU Image Manipulation Program what is addrss please ? http://www.gimp.org -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Medium format color reversal film question
Mike Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking about venturing into medium format. A quick question. Color reversal film (slide film) in 120 format Slide film in 35mm I understand, but slide film in 6 x 6?? Shows you how little I know about this format! Is the color reversal negative just used to make a color print or do they have gigantic slide projectors for this format? Thanks! This is really reversal film and yes, There are projectors that take 6x6 (Rollei, Hasselblad, Kindermann) and even 6x7 slides (Mamiya). So, what are you waiting for? Do a Google search for `medium format slide projector' to find out more. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: MX -mirror lock up?
Knut Knut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, maybe some of the many MX owners can help me: Does it have a mirror lock up? MLU is an undocumented (and unsupported) feature of the MX. Try tapping the release button. After some practice (with no film in the camera) you may get the mirror to lock up without releasing the shutter. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pål More MZ-S battery consumprion
In local.pentax, you wrote: Karen Fraser writes: My apologies if I've misspelled your name Pel. Is it Pel or Pel? OK that's funny :) Have you been watching too much of Monty Python's Flying Circus? Seriously though, its time for a test to see what's going on. I wonder if the list server is reformatting the body text of our emails (I notice the headers are still coming through right). [Tests snipped.] Found in the headers: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is the list server responsible for that? Let's throw some more special characters at it, like ^ and ) (uppercase Thorn and Copyright). -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: July thoughts
In local.pentax, you wrote: As always, I'm looking at the shot mostly for pleasure, with just a few critiques. And those mild. If you got what you wanted in the shot, you did well. If you also found what pleases a few others, you did very well. Double Helix by Johan Schoone, Netherland Interesting item. Good shot. Thank you. You are the first to comment on this one (unless I missed some articles). Did you follow the URL included in the description? I'd better grab my gear and hop on my bicycle. There is a lot of artwork (mostly sculptures) in public places around here. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Classrooms
Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13 Jul 2001 16:45:56 -, Johan Schoone wrote: You wrote: Just wondering if anyone has taken any classes offered at night through a local highschool or college? I did, at the `Centre for Arts' (Centrum voor de Kunsten) in Eindhoven. Do you know if any place in The Netherlands offers an intensive version of something like that? Maybe an hour a night for a week or so? It would be great to combine photography classes with one of my favorite countries. :-) The `Centre for Arts' is some kind of Community College. The photography courses they offer (both `elementary' and `advanced'; separate courses for colour and B/W) take a whole season (28 evenings), 3 hours per evening. They also offer a studio workshop (one day and one evening, some 2 weeks apart). Details are on http://www.cke.nl/ (dutch). Most major cities offer similar facilities. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Comments on M 50/4 macro
You wrote: One question. What does the macro part of the lens do? No lens has a `macro' part. Macro lenses are *designed* for close-up work. I have a macro Tamron which I have never used (no adaptall yet), and am wondering. Go get an adapter and enter the `macro' world. Enjoy! -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Classrooms
You wrote: Just wondering if anyone has taken any classes offered at night through a local highschool or college? I did, at the `Centre for Arts' (Centrum voor de Kunsten) in Eindhoven. I'd be interested in taking one involving portrait/lighting with some darkroom instruction,as i'd like to learn more on studio type stuff. I only did the entry level course and it did include some studio work, both portrait and macro. The `advanced' course offers more (of course). Would you think these 1 night a week for 10 weeks courses are worth while or should i look elsewere. Go see what your local nicht schools nearby offer. As Beijing got the Olympics for 2008 our survey work dreams for Toronto are down the tubes so i might have some spare time now *boggle* -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Shutter speed testing
In article 000f01c0e813$edc97740$[EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: Many years ago I read about a method of testing focal plane shutter speeds by taking a picture off a tv screen and counting scan lines. Does anyone know of this method and how it works? I have long since forgotten. Apparently it is quite an accurate method. I expect there would be some differences depending on if your TV is PAL or Never Twice Same Colour format. The horizontal frequencies are 15625 Hz for PAL and 15750 for NTSC. Your computer monitor has a much higher horizontal frequency, some go well over 100 kHz. Mine is now running at 1024x768 @ 86 Hz, giving a 70.24 kHz horizontal frequency. If you cannot see individual scan lines on your monitor screen, you can put a test pattern with a vertical ruler in the root window (= the background) and/or use a lower resolution. -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Yikes! 2000mm f13.5???
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1236976934 No bids on it (and it's in Istanbul, Turkey--*I* wouldn't bid on it). Why the `Yikes'? Because it's Big Bertha? -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Digital dry film process (or vapourware?)
In article 01c0deba$43135e40$0405@default you write: An interesting (dry) development from the British Journal of Photography'= s e-newsletter. It would be an amazing process if it works. [Press release] I remember seeing something similar before. It seems the film gets destroyed (rendered unusable for printing or projecting) in the process. I see little or no advantage in using this process, other than reduced use of chemistry. More info and a cheesy animation on http://www.appliedsciencefiction.com , choose Products - Digital PIC (no direct link). -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
More pictures
I took some pictures from a sculpture designed by the (now retired) CompSci professor Koos Verhoeff. It decorates a roundabout in a nearby town. As always, comments are welcome. The pictures are at http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone/roundabout . -- http://members.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: New (well, to me) dual scanner
X - A scroll of news from Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Read it? [yn] y Thursday, March 29, 2001, 2:01:51 PM Hi everybody, [About the HP ScanJet 7400C] I looked up the specs and it looks really good. W.r.t. transparencies it seems almost up to par with some film scanners. More scanning experiences: I lent a 5300C from a friend and spent two weekends to get it to work with Linux and to scan some pictures and building a simple website to show them. The bad news: Neither the 5300 nor the 7400 are listed as `supported' on http://www.mostang.com/sane/ . There is a trick to get the 5300 working; it *may* work with the 7400 as well. See below for the URL. -- http://members.brabant.chello.nl/~j.schoone\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pancake prices
X - A scroll of news from Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Read it? [yn] y Just noticed today that at KEH the 40/2.8 pancake has virtually achieved price parity with the 50/1.2 @$299.00. And I bought one for NLG 75 (about USD 30) last week from a local shop. -- Johan Schoone [EMAIL PROTECTED]\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Accessory hose for sale!
X - A scroll of news from Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Read it? [yn] y http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1220636208 Damned if *I* know what it is... ;) It is a bit short to connect a pneumatic tool to an air compressor. ObPhoto: Check out http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1221453874 -- Johan Schoone [EMAIL PROTECTED]\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: EELBALEE.exe
X - A scroll of news from William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Read it? [yn] y Did anyone just recieve a blank email from an undisclosed sender with the above attachment? Thanks [Opens Spam folder...] Yep. I get one of those every Friday from different places. Looks like the Hybris worm/virus to me. ObPentax: nl.foto meeting next Sunday. Includes portrait workshops in- and outdoors. We also get a Donkervoort car (http://www.donkervoort.nl). You can also have your equipment tested. The weather forecast does not look very well, better pack some Superia 400. Just curious how many Pentaxians I am going to meet there... -- Johan Schoone [EMAIL PROTECTED]\\|// Registered Linux user #78364 - The Linux Counter - http://counter.li.org Assume nothing, expect anything. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Virus!!! re: message from Richard C Graham w/o subject
X - A scroll of news from Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Read it? [yn] y Hi, about attachments, you can tell these are aimed at the microsoft world. You can visually examine the extension on the file and tell what it is, maybe. In the microsoft world the last three characters in the file name tell the OS how to handle the file. So be carefull of any file with a name ending in, [List of common extensions and explanation] I played with Outleak Express once or twice and it does - by default - *not* show the true extension of a file. If I send you a message with `foo.jpg' as attachment, OE will display it with an icon appropriate for images and the name `foo' (without extension). This particular message contains a file named `TIAZINHA.JPG.pif'. The displayed name will have the `.pif' stripped and have a different icon. OT: A stupid way to scare the bejeezus out of OE users is tacking the following lines on your message (I put it in a box to disarm it): /-\ | begin present.txt.vbs | | Hi, I'm a signature virus. Copy me! | | end | \-/ Fortunately, this one is pretty harmless. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
