Re: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave
G'day all Thanks for all the feedback on this shot, particularly on alternative positioning of the wave and surfer suggested by Ken and Bruce. I hadn't really considered alternative compositions but I can see their potential - something to keep in mind next time I'm on the coast. The focus of the shot was intended to be the surfer with the wave just providing some secondary interest. Jack's second comment adds a bit of ambiguity to the shot that I hadn't realised. The surfer is actually heading out, not in, and the small wave is inbound. It's interesting how interpretations can vary. (As an aside, this kind of feedback is one of the reasons that this list is so valuable). Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:50 -0400, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I agree with Christine. There are a number of options for this type of shot, but your execution is excellent. Well done! Paul On Jun 15, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Brian. The contrasting textures of the water are nice as is the backlight on the surfer in silhouette. You caught the stride of the surfer just right to my eye. Ken makes an interesting point about the placement of the wave, but I do like the shot composed as posted. Could go either way for me. Very nice work.Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:52 AM Subject: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave I was trying for a very simple composition here. It's sort of what I wanted but not sure if it quite works: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP7062.html I cropped some off the top and left. K200D and 55-300 mm zoom. Comments welcome. Cheers Brian -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave
On Jun 15, 2010, at 7:52, Brian Walters wrote: I was trying for a very simple composition here. It's sort of what I wanted but not sure if it quite works: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP7062.html I cropped some off the top and left. K200D and 55-300 mm zoom. Well, *I* like it! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:47 -0500, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Jun 15, 2010, at 7:52, Brian Walters wrote: I was trying for a very simple composition here. It's sort of what I wanted but not sure if it quite works: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP7062.html I cropped some off the top and left. K200D and 55-300 mm zoom. Well, *I* like it! -Charles Thanks Charles! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave
I was trying for a very simple composition here. It's sort of what I wanted but not sure if it quite works: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP7062.html I cropped some off the top and left. K200D and 55-300 mm zoom. Comments welcome. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave
2010/6/15 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm: I was trying for a very simple composition here. It's sort of what I wanted but not sure if it quite works: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP7062.html I cropped some off the top and left. K200D and 55-300 mm zoom. The surfer's hair really brings the shot to froition =) Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: I was trying for a very simple composition here. It's sort of what I wanted but not sure if it quite works: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP7062.html I cropped some off the top and left. K200D and 55-300 mm zoom. Sure as hell works for me. Terrific shot! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave
Well..maybe tomorrow.. Beautifully composed! Jack --- On Tue, 6/15/10, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 6:29 AM On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: I was trying for a very simple composition here. It's sort of what I wanted but not sure if it quite works: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP7062.html I cropped some off the top and left. K200D and 55-300 mm zoom. Sure as hell works for me. Terrific shot! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:29 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: I was trying for a very simple composition here. It's sort of what I wanted but not sure if it quite works: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP7062.html I cropped some off the top and left. K200D and 55-300 mm zoom. Sure as hell works for me. And me Dave Terrific shot! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave
Nicely done.
On 6/15/2010 8:52 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
I was trying for a very simple composition here. It's sort of what I
wanted but not sure if it quite works:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP7062.html
I cropped some off the top and left. K200D and 55-300 mm zoom.
Comments welcome.
Cheers
Brian
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Re: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave
The wave in back of him keeps vying for my attention and draws me away from the surfer. Putting the wave in front of the surfer is more complementary. Nice backlit light. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm Subject: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave I was trying for a very simple composition here. It's sort of what I wanted but not sure if it quite works: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP7062.html I cropped some off the top and left. K200D and 55-300 mm zoom. Comments welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave
Well, all the elements are there and I can see what you are trying to do. I guess one issue is what is the subject - the wave or the surfer? As it stands they seem to compete a bit. If it is the wave, then the surfer needs to be less dominant - almost out of frame or upper right corner or something. If it is the surfer then he is leading my eyes out of the frame. He is 3/4s out of the frame and on his way out. He needs to be much further to the left side of frame. -- Bruce Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 5:52:50 AM, you wrote: BW I was trying for a very simple composition here. It's sort of what I BW wanted but not sure if it quite works: BW http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP7062.html BW I cropped some off the top and left. K200D and 55-300 mm zoom. BW Comments welcome. BW Cheers BW Brian BW ++ BW Brian Walters BW Western Sydney Australia BW http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ BW -- BW -- BW http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: BW http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave
Hi Brian. The contrasting textures of the water are nice as is the backlight on the surfer in silhouette. You caught the stride of the surfer just right to my eye. Ken makes an interesting point about the placement of the wave, but I do like the shot composed as posted. Could go either way for me. Very nice work.Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:52 AM Subject: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave I was trying for a very simple composition here. It's sort of what I wanted but not sure if it quite works: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP7062.html I cropped some off the top and left. K200D and 55-300 mm zoom. Comments welcome. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave
I was trying for a very simple composition here. It's sort of what I wanted but not sure if it quite works: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP7062.html I cropped some off the top and left. K200D and 55-300 mm zoom. Comments welcome. that's great - especially as I thought it was going to be about hairdressing. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave
I was trying for a very simple composition here. It's sort of what I wanted but not sure if it quite works: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP7062.html I cropped some off the top and left. K200D and 55-300 mm zoom. The surfer's hair really brings the shot to froition =) oh, so it _is_ about hairdressing! There's a bit of a mullet going on there. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave
I previously commented, but let me add that I agree with you, Christine. The surfer is leaving the ocean and is separated sufficiently from the small outbound wave so as not to conflict or distract. I prefer, as is true in this case, that the exiting figure be positioned nearer to the approaching frame edge. Jack --- On Tue, 6/15/10, Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 9:47 AM Hi Brian. The contrasting textures of the water are nice as is the backlight on the surfer in silhouette. You caught the stride of the surfer just right to my eye. Ken makes an interesting point about the placement of the wave, but I do like the shot composed as posted. Could go either way for me. Very nice work. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:52 AM Subject: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave I was trying for a very simple composition here. It's sort of what I wanted but not sure if it quite works: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP7062.html I cropped some off the top and left. K200D and 55-300 mm zoom. Comments welcome. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave
I agree with Christine. There are a number of options for this type of shot, but your execution is excellent. Well done! Paul On Jun 15, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Brian. The contrasting textures of the water are nice as is the backlight on the surfer in silhouette. You caught the stride of the surfer just right to my eye. Ken makes an interesting point about the placement of the wave, but I do like the shot composed as posted. Could go either way for me. Very nice work.Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:52 AM Subject: PESO - Looking for the Perfect Wave I was trying for a very simple composition here. It's sort of what I wanted but not sure if it quite works: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP7062.html I cropped some off the top and left. K200D and 55-300 mm zoom. Comments welcome. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Re: Anyone looking into doing the webcam video from Chicago?
On Apr 28, 2010, at 11:03 , Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 28/4/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: just signed up on ustream.tv and got it working. Bookmark this URL: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pdml-photo-annual-gallery-opening (Requires Flash, I'm afraid) If we can get an Internet connection at the gallery we should be good to go. Way to go Mark. That's excellent!! It will be if we can get an Internet connection at the gallery (I emailed Sue Barton but haven't received a reply yet). Even better if it's hard-wired rather than wireless, because it's faster and we'll be able to go for a better quality feed. Then again, if it's wireless I could walk the laptop by all the photos in the exhibit to let viewers around the world seem them on display! Rent a Hover-Round or borrow one of the local supermarket's electric shoppers and bungee your laptop to the basket for a smooth round-room pan. If you need it, a light 32° off center will help light the crowds as well as even the illumination on the prints. :-) Joseph McAllister Lots of gear, not much time http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 27/4/10, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: 3. Streaming video is a problem though. Most solutions for the Mac build on OS-X Server tools. Quicktime Broadcaster! http://www.apple.com/quicktime/broadcaster/ Thanks! I've now got that downloaded and installed on my Dell/Mac. The software seems to be working but I can't determine how to get it sending its video out to the rest of the Internet. Any pointers? OK, I've got the next step: I need to connect to a streaming server. Anyone got one of those kicking around? Didn't think so. I don't think this live video from the gallery opening is going to happen. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Apr 28, 2010, at 7:38 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 27/4/10, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: 3. Streaming video is a problem though. Most solutions for the Mac build on OS-X Server tools. Quicktime Broadcaster! http://www.apple.com/quicktime/broadcaster/ Thanks! I've now got that downloaded and installed on my Dell/Mac. The software seems to be working but I can't determine how to get it sending its video out to the rest of the Internet. Any pointers? I don't think it will work properly unless you have OS-X Server (not just end-user OS-X). stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 27/4/10, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: 3. Streaming video is a problem though. Most solutions for the Mac build on OS-X Server tools. Quicktime Broadcaster! http://www.apple.com/quicktime/broadcaster/ Thanks! I've now got that downloaded and installed on my Dell/Mac. The software seems to be working but I can't determine how to get it sending its video out to the rest of the Internet. Any pointers? I'm over here! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Mark Roberts wrote: OK, I've got the next step: I need to connect to a streaming server. Anyone got one of those kicking around? Didn't think so. I don't think this live video from the gallery opening is going to happen. Oops, spoke too soon: The Quicktime thing isn't going to happen but I just signed up on ustream.tv and got it working. Bookmark this URL: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pdml-photo-annual-gallery-opening (Requires Flash, I'm afraid) If we can get an Internet connection at the gallery we should be good to go. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 28/4/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I just signed up on ustream.tv and got it working. Bookmark this URL: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pdml-photo-annual-gallery-opening (Requires Flash, I'm afraid) If we can get an Internet connection at the gallery we should be good to go. Way to go Mark. That's excellent!! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Cotty wrote: On 28/4/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: just signed up on ustream.tv and got it working. Bookmark this URL: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pdml-photo-annual-gallery-opening (Requires Flash, I'm afraid) If we can get an Internet connection at the gallery we should be good to go. Way to go Mark. That's excellent!! It will be if we can get an Internet connection at the gallery (I emailed Sue Barton but haven't received a reply yet). Even better if it's hard-wired rather than wireless, because it's faster and we'll be able to go for a better quality feed. Then again, if it's wireless I could walk the laptop by all the photos in the exhibit to let viewers around the world seem them on display! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I just got off the phone with Sue. The entire DANK building has unsecured wireless. She said she has gotten decent reception in the gallery. HTH. Cheers, Christine -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com Sent: Apr 28, 2010 1:03 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Anyone looking into doing the webcam video from Chicago? Cotty wrote: On 28/4/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: just signed up on ustream.tv and got it working. Bookmark this URL: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pdml-photo-annual-gallery-opening (Requires Flash, I'm afraid) If we can get an Internet connection at the gallery we should be good to go. Way to go Mark. That's excellent!! It will be if we can get an Internet connection at the gallery (I emailed Sue Barton but haven't received a reply yet). Even better if it's hard-wired rather than wireless, because it's faster and we'll be able to go for a better quality feed. Then again, if it's wireless I could walk the laptop by all the photos in the exhibit to let viewers around the world seem them on display! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 28/4/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Then again, if it's wireless I could walk the laptop by all the photos in the exhibit to let viewers around the world seem them on display! A personal tour - love it :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 28/4/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: just signed up on ustream.tv and got it working. Bookmark this URL: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pdml-photo-annual-gallery-opening (Requires Flash, I'm afraid) If we can get an Internet connection at the gallery we should be good to go. Way to go Mark. That's excellent!! It will be if we can get an Internet connection at the gallery (I emailed Sue Barton but haven't received a reply yet). Even better if it's hard-wired rather than wireless, because it's faster and we'll be able to go for a better quality feed. Then again, if it's wireless I could walk the laptop by all the photos in the exhibit to let viewers around the world seem them on display! If anyone has one of those firewire video cameras you could do it in (for the internet) HD. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Is anyone seriously investigating this? Seems like a cool idea (if we can get an Internet connection at the gallery). I have a Lenovo laptop running Windows 7 and a Dell netbook running Mac OSX 10.6.2 and both have teleconferencing cameras. If someone wants to have a go just tell me which one I should bring. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 27/4/10, m...@robertstech.com, discombobulated, unleashed: Dell netbook running Mac OSX 10.6.2 I gagged on my cup of tea just then. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 4/27/2010 10:34 AM, Cotty wrote:
On 27/4/10, m...@robertstech.com, discombobulated, unleashed:
Dell netbook running Mac OSX 10.6.2
I gagged on my cup of tea just then.
What, you've never heard of a hachentosh before?
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Re: Anyone looking into doing the webcam video from Chicago?
On 4/27/2010 4:48 AM, m...@robertstech.com wrote: Is anyone seriously investigating this? Seems like a cool idea (if we can get an Internet connection at the gallery). I have a Lenovo laptop running Windows 7 and a Dell netbook running Mac OSX 10.6.2 and both have teleconferencing cameras. If someone wants to have a go just tell me which one I should bring. Along those lines, there was discussion of a gallery of the photos that didn't make it into the book. I'd love to see those presented as a slide show. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I have done a little Google research on this. Note that so far I was assuming use of my Mac, have not delved into what may be available on the Windows side. 1. Skype allows conference calls but I suspect this is an expensive and cumbersome way to go. 2. There are many programs that support video upload, e.g. to your own web site or to YouTube. 3. Streaming video is a problem though. Most solutions for the Mac build on OS-X Server tools. 4. I skipped by a couple of high-dollar commercial solutions. 5.. This may be a likely cross-platform solution, but my initial impression is that it requires a higher geek factor than I am able to bring to bear. http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ stan On Apr 27, 2010, at 6:48 AM, m...@robertstech.com wrote: Is anyone seriously investigating this? Seems like a cool idea (if we can get an Internet connection at the gallery). I have a Lenovo laptop running Windows 7 and a Dell netbook running Mac OSX 10.6.2 and both have teleconferencing cameras. If someone wants to have a go just tell me which one I should bring. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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great capture. the framing/crop is also well done. Toine On 6 April 2010 16:44, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10884615 K7, DA* 60-250/4, f4, 1/500th, AF540 flash in hi-speed synch mode -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks Toine. And thanks to all who commented or had a look. Paul On Apr 7, 2010, at 2:31 AM, Toine wrote: great capture. the framing/crop is also well done. Toine On 6 April 2010 16:44, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10884615 K7, DA* 60-250/4, f4, 1/500th, AF540 flash in hi-speed synch mode -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 6/4/10, P N Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10884615 K7, DA* 60-250/4, f4, 1/500th, AF540 flash in hi-speed synch mode Very sweet :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Cool shot, Paul. You have just the right amount of haze on the window to effectively show her and the environment around her. Nicely done. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 7:44:57 AM, you wrote: PNS http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10884615 PNS K7, DA* 60-250/4, f4, 1/500th, AF540 flash in hi-speed synch mode -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Lovely moment there Paul. Dave On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:44 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10884615 K7, DA* 60-250/4, f4, 1/500th, AF540 flash in hi-speed synch mode -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Paul, Very nice, almost in a 'space ship'. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:44 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10884615 K7, DA* 60-250/4, f4, 1/500th, AF540 flash in hi-speed synch mode -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/21/2010 6:32 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: http://news.cnet.com/2300-1041_3-10002863-7.html I might have to get one of these things. Mark, we have a number of such devices in our company. They work, but my impression (potentially wrong) that they are not extremely reliable. That of course, given our local and rather extremely dusty environment, even indoors. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Rob Studdert Brendan MacRae...wrote: I think you meant to say doesn't support an eSATA connection. But I don't see why this is a factor since USB 3.0 is supposed to be faster than eSATA anyway. Theoretically, but there's little to be gained using an interface that's faster than the drive interface. My unit provides eSATA, Firewire and USB 2, I wouldn't purposefully buy anything that's USB 3 for a few years at least. What I got to attach it to doesn't have USB 3 anyway, and new computer equipment doesn't look to be in my immediate future. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Doug Franklin On 2010-03-21 17:07, John Sessoms wrote: No, I meant eSATA drives. I may be wrong, but I did write what I meant. ;-D I think you're mistaken on this, John. The drives themselves are SATA. If you install them inside the computer case, they connect using the SATA interface. If you put a SATA drive in an external case, the external case can supply an eSATA connection back to the computer. Right. I understand that NOW. Trouble from reading email BEFORE I make coffee in the morning. I misunderstood it to not support a newer style of SATA drive, rather than not supporting a newer external SATA interface. And come to that, I think I'll go put a pot of coffee on. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Ken Waller Questioning the need for this at all ? Do you have internal HDs laying around that you're using as external HDs? Seems better to outright buy an external HD from the start - no need for this device. What am I missing? Seems to be for hot swapping multiple hard drives. I just ran into a use for them yesterday. Went back to my old school to apply for readmission; planning to reenter for summer semester. School now has a requirement that every student have a 100GB or larger hard-drive. Must be formatted FAT so it will work on both PC and Mac. All the workstations have these docks. You keep your work on the drive until you upload it to the instructor. Finishing and correction is heavily digital workflow. Other interesting changes - When I started in 2005 every student was required to have a medium format camera. With this academic year, every student has to have a DSLR, and the students are assigned a medium format camera from the school's inventory. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Questioning the need for this at all ? Do you have internal HDs laying around that you're using as external HDs? Seems better to outright buy an external HD from the start - no need for this device. What am I missing? Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: steve harley p...@paper-ape.com Subject: Re: Interesting device for those looking into external HD storage On 2010-03-21 11:57 , John Francis wrote: How often would you plan on using it? For under $10 you can get a cable which does the same thing (and even, in some cases, one which will also support SATA). i have such a cable and i also have a dock -- the dock is so much more convenient than the cable (which is really two cables, one for power and one for SATA to USB) that i use the cable only for ad hoc use of DVD burners, which don't fit in docks and for which external cases often cost more than the burners themselves the cables units are cheap but so are the docks; i got my in in a MicroCenter clearance bin for $30-something, and it does FireWire, eSATA USB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2010-03-22 09:14 , Ken Waller wrote: Questioning the need for this at all ? Do you have internal HDs laying around that you're using as external HDs? not exactly; i do have a few extra bare hard drives, but when i use them it isn't for permanent storage Seems better to outright buy an external HD from the start - no need for this device. the dock has a price advantage (unless you really cheap out on cases) and a flexibility advantage; it has a bit of a complexity disadvantage for those used to plug-and-play external hard drives What am I missing? i mostly use my dock for utility purposes, such as for temporarily replacing a drive when another fails, or for testing whether it's a drive or a case that is malfunctioning, or for getting data off the 2.5 drive that was inside a broken laptop before sending the laptop in for repair; but there are also many people who have stacks of bare drives that they rotate through a dock like this for backups, some also move those backups to another location until they rotate back in -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: http://news.cnet.com/2300-1041_3-10002863-7.html I might have to get one of these things. I have a two-slot version of this device. It's useful when I need to swap stuff to and from a number of bare drives that I don't use often. The one I have was cheap, only USB2, but works for what I need it for. I use four-interface enclosures from OWC for regular use (USB2, FW400, FW800, eSATA) ... much faster, quieter. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks Steve. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: steve harley p...@paper-ape.com Subject: Re: Interesting device for those looking into external HD storage On 2010-03-22 09:14 , Ken Waller wrote: Questioning the need for this at all ? Do you have internal HDs laying around that you're using as external HDs? not exactly; i do have a few extra bare hard drives, but when i use them it isn't for permanent storage Seems better to outright buy an external HD from the start - no need for this device. the dock has a price advantage (unless you really cheap out on cases) and a flexibility advantage; it has a bit of a complexity disadvantage for those used to plug-and-play external hard drives What am I missing? i mostly use my dock for utility purposes, such as for temporarily replacing a drive when another fails, or for testing whether it's a drive or a case that is malfunctioning, or for getting data off the 2.5 drive that was inside a broken laptop before sending the laptop in for repair; but there are also many people who have stacks of bare drives that they rotate through a dock like this for backups, some also move those backups to another location until they rotate back in -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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http://news.cnet.com/2300-1041_3-10002863-7.html I might have to get one of these things. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mar 21, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: http://news.cnet.com/2300-1041_3-10002863-7.html I might have to get one of these things. I have three of them. Various companies make similar docking stations. They work well and are quite handy. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Mark, There are similar units from other manufacturers as well. You can choose by type of connectivity. Also, what is important is how well the HDD is cooled. Some of such toaster type devices are reported to heat up considerably. I heard good recommendations about Voyager from NewerTech: This one supports eSATA and Firewire connection, but not USB3 (only USB2 so far): http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/FWU2ES2HDK/ If you don't care for Firewire, this model supports USB2 + eSATA: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/U2ES2HDK/ USB3 is not widely supported yet (AFAIK). The manufacturer of iNeo also has eSATA and other models: http://www.neo2tech.com/index-product.html#usb30 HTH, Igor On Mar 21, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: http://news.cnet.com/2300-1041_3-10002863-7.html I might have to get one of these things. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Mark Roberts http://news.cnet.com/2300-1041_3-10002863-7.html I might have to get one of these things. Shop around. That one doesn't support eSATA drives, and I know there are others on the market that do. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 12:32:17PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: http://news.cnet.com/2300-1041_3-10002863-7.html I might have to get one of these things. How often would you plan on using it? For under $10 you can get a cable which does the same thing (and even, in some cases, one which will also support SATA). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sun, March 21, 2010 10:25:37 AM Subject: RE: Interesting device for those looking into external HD storage From: Mark Roberts href=http://news.cnet.com/2300-1041_3-10002863-7.html; target=_blank http://news.cnet.com/2300-1041_3-10002863-7.html I might have to get one of these things. Shop around. That one doesn't support eSATA drives, and I know there are others on the market that do. I think you meant to say doesn't support an eSATA connection. But I don't see why this is a factor since USB 3.0 is supposed to be faster than eSATA anyway. http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-10141810-76.html -Brendan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Brendan MacRae From: John Sessoms From: Mark Roberts href=http://news.cnet.com/2300-1041_3-10002863-7.html; target=_blank http://news.cnet.com/2300-1041_3-10002863-7.html I might have to get one of these things. Shop around. That one doesn't support eSATA drives, and I know there are others on the market that do. I think you meant to say doesn't support an eSATA connection. But I don't see why this is a factor since USB 3.0 is supposed to be faster than eSATA anyway. http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-10141810-76.html No, I meant eSATA drives. I may be wrong, but I did write what I meant. ;-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sun, March 21, 2010 2:07:03 PM Subject: Re: Interesting device for those looking into external HD, storage From: Brendan MacRae From: John Sessoms From: Mark Roberts href=http://news.cnet.com/2300-1041_3-10002863-7.html; target=_blank target=_blank http://news.cnet.com/2300-1041_3-10002863-7.html I might have to get one of these things. Shop around. That one doesn't support eSATA drives, and I know there are others on the market that do. I think you meant to say doesn't support an eSATA connection. But I don't see why this is a factor since USB 3.0 is supposed to be faster than eSATA anyway. http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-10141810-76.html No, I meant eSATA drives. I may be wrong, but I did write what I meant. ;-D You are wrong, but coming from me this means practically nothing ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 22/03/2010, Brendan MacRae brendanmacrae1...@yahoo.com wrote: I think you meant to say doesn't support an eSATA connection. But I don't see why this is a factor since USB 3.0 is supposed to be faster than eSATA anyway. Theoretically, but there's little to be gained using an interface that's faster than the drive interface. My unit provides eSATA, Firewire and USB 2, I wouldn't purposefully buy anything that's USB 3 for a few years at least. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting device for those looking into external HD, storage
On 2010-03-21 17:07, John Sessoms wrote: No, I meant eSATA drives. I may be wrong, but I did write what I meant. ;-D I think you're mistaken on this, John. The drives themselves are SATA. If you install them inside the computer case, they connect using the SATA interface. If you put a SATA drive in an external case, the external case can supply an eSATA connection back to the computer. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting device for those looking into external HD storage
- Original Message From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sun, March 21, 2010 5:24:54 PM Subject: Re: Interesting device for those looking into external HD storage On 22/03/2010, Brendan MacRae ymailto=mailto:brendanmacrae1...@yahoo.com; href=mailto:brendanmacrae1...@yahoo.com;brendanmacrae1...@yahoo.com wrote: I think you meant to say doesn't support an eSATA connection. But I don't see why this is a factor since USB 3.0 is supposed to be faster than eSATA anyway. Theoretically, but there's little to be gained using an interface that's faster than the drive interface. My unit provides eSATA, Firewire and USB 2, I wouldn't purposefully buy anything that's USB 3 for a few years at least. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio That's a good point, Rob. Of course, the solid state drives are supposed to be much faster that traditional HD's which is where things seemed to be headed. -Brendan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting device for those looking into external HD storage
On 22/03/2010, Brendan MacRae brendanmacrae1...@yahoo.com wrote: That's a good point, Rob. Of course, the solid state drives are supposed to be much faster that traditional HD's which is where things seemed to be headed. Indeed, but currently the best drives generally don't come close to exceeding the interface capabilities WRT raw data rates (even SSHDs). I'm running WD VelociRaptors in all my speed critical boxes and they certainly aren't being performance limited. Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting device for those looking into external HD storage
On 2010-03-21 11:57 , John Francis wrote: How often would you plan on using it? For under $10 you can get a cable which does the same thing (and even, in some cases, one which will also support SATA). i have such a cable and i also have a dock -- the dock is so much more convenient than the cable (which is really two cables, one for power and one for SATA to USB) that i use the cable only for ad hoc use of DVD burners, which don't fit in docks and for which external cases often cost more than the burners themselves the cables units are cheap but so are the docks; i got my in in a MicroCenter clearance bin for $30-something, and it does FireWire, eSATA USB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It looks like Sigma announced some interesting looking lenses
Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 February 2010 04:06, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: So, on the one hand I'm expecting a very good lens, on the other hand I'm expecting to have my kidney to send over to BH. We'll see... We're sorry, the price is two kidneys. PLease find enclosed one lens hood. At least it's an adjustable lens hood so I can also use it on my Pentax FF, whose release is inevitable (if the other thread is to be believed). I think that flexibility is worth the extra kidney. Plus postage. Please send your liver. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It looks like Sigma announced some interesting looking lenses
Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: So, on the one hand I'm expecting a very good lens, on the other hand I'm expecting to have my kidney to send over to BH. We'll see... We're sorry, the price is two kidneys. PLease find enclosed one lens hood. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It looks like Sigma announced some interesting looking lenses
On 23 February 2010 04:06, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: So, on the one hand I'm expecting a very good lens, on the other hand I'm expecting to have my kidney to send over to BH. We'll see... We're sorry, the price is two kidneys. PLease find enclosed one lens hood. At least it's an adjustable lens hood so I can also use it on my Pentax FF, whose release is inevitable (if the other thread is to be believed). I think that flexibility is worth the extra kidney. --M. -- http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
It looks like Sigma announced some interesting looking lenses
I was poking around in the silly hope that the various colors of K-x announced for Europe would be coming to the states. As most people expected, there weren't really any announcements from Pentax, though Sigma seems to have announced some lenses that could be rather interesting if they have good image quality for the cost. Fast glass is always appealing to me. My 20/1.8 is back from Sigma and the nasty bumpiness in the focus may be gone. Time will tell, and I've been happy with the optics on it. 85/1.4 http://www.dpreview.com/news/1002/10022015sigma85mm.asp I've been surprised at how often the 2/3 stop of 1.4 over 1.8 comes in handy. The little bit of extra reach and especially speed of this over my 77/1.8 could be handy. I'm sure the optics would be better than the Korean 85/1.4. Though I love my 77/1.8 so much that it's hard to imagine my using anything else in it's range when I didn't absolutely need the little extra bit of speed. 70-200/2.8 http://www.dpreview.com/news/1002/10022016sigma70mm200mm.asp I doubt it would be nearly as nice as the Pentax 80-200/2.8, but it'd probably be a lot more affordable. 17-50 / 2.8 http://www.dpreview.com/news/1002/10022014sigma17mm50mm.asp Same as above but with the 16-50. 8-16mm F4.5-5.6 rectilinear http://www.dpreview.com/news/1002/10022011sigma8mm16mm.asp If you're going to go wide, this could be very interesting. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It looks like Sigma announced some interesting looking lenses
Larry, I also have the 77 Ltd, but sometimes I just need that extra 2/3 stop (for example when shooting live music). I'm waiting to see what the price on this Sigma 85mm is going to be, but I suspect it won't be cheap. This from DPR talking to Sigma Chief Operating Officer, Kazuto Yamaki, at the PMA 2010: FLD elements are also used in the [Sigma] 85mm F1.4, which has been attracting a lot of attention at the show. 'It's similar in concept to the 50mm F1.4 - it's bigger, heavier and more expensive than OEM lenses but achieves higher performance,' says Yamaki. 'We've made this for professional and advance amateur photographers,' he explained: 'we've tried to achieve better performance [than the OEM equivalents], particularly when using fully open apertures on the latest DSLRs.' So, on the one hand I'm expecting a very good lens, on the other hand I'm expecting to have my kidney to send over to BH. We'll see... --M -- http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 22 February 2010 06:33, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I was poking around in the silly hope that the various colors of K-x announced for Europe would be coming to the states. As most people expected, there weren't really any announcements from Pentax, though Sigma seems to have announced some lenses that could be rather interesting if they have good image quality for the cost. Fast glass is always appealing to me. My 20/1.8 is back from Sigma and the nasty bumpiness in the focus may be gone. Time will tell, and I've been happy with the optics on it. 85/1.4 http://www.dpreview.com/news/1002/10022015sigma85mm.asp I've been surprised at how often the 2/3 stop of 1.4 over 1.8 comes in handy. The little bit of extra reach and especially speed of this over my 77/1.8 could be handy. I'm sure the optics would be better than the Korean 85/1.4. Though I love my 77/1.8 so much that it's hard to imagine my using anything else in it's range when I didn't absolutely need the little extra bit of speed. 70-200/2.8 http://www.dpreview.com/news/1002/10022016sigma70mm200mm.asp I doubt it would be nearly as nice as the Pentax 80-200/2.8, but it'd probably be a lot more affordable. 17-50 / 2.8 http://www.dpreview.com/news/1002/10022014sigma17mm50mm.asp Same as above but with the 16-50. 8-16mm F4.5-5.6 rectilinear http://www.dpreview.com/news/1002/10022011sigma8mm16mm.asp If you're going to go wide, this could be very interesting. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: It looks like Sigma announced some interesting looking lenses
On Feb 22, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Miserere wrote: Larry, ___ Sigma 85/1.4 ___ So, on the one hand I'm expecting a very good lens, on the other hand I'm expecting to have my kidney to send over to BH. We'll see... I really don't need to hear about great lenses that are not cheap. John did me the favor of loaning me his 16-50 to shoot the belt tests at the dojo. I haven't seen the pictures yet, but from a sheer usability level I'm afraid that I like it just a little bit too much. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Re: Sigma 28/1.8 shots [was Looking for something wide and fast]
Thank you. I'm sure she will be happy to learn about it ;) On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: That shot of the woman's eyes is superb Thank you :) LR does marvels sometimes... I love it as well but I'm very subjective since the eye is the one of my wife :D Your wife is very beautiful! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 28/1.8 shots [was Looking for something wide and fast]
Cool stuff!!! My regards to your wife. Either you got excellent copy of that Sigma or you're really good photographer, or actually both. I might as well try to reproduce your mouse shot with our guinea pig. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com wrote: Here are a couple shots I took with my Sigma 28/1.8 (EX DG Macro version, current one). Taken with various aperture settings and ISO, including f/1.8 of course: This lens exists as 24 and 20mm as well. Some love those lenses some hate them, probably because of samples variation (heh.. Sigma !). http://picasaweb.google.com/pentaxlist/Sigma28mmF18# -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 28/1.8 shots [was Looking for something wide and fast]
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:51 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Here are a couple shots I took with my Sigma 28/1.8 (EX DG Macro version, current one). Taken with various aperture settings and ISO, including f/1.8 of course: This lens exists as 24 and 20mm as well. Some love those lenses some hate them, probably because of samples variation (heh.. Sigma !). http://picasaweb.google.com/pentaxlist/Sigma28mmF18# That shot of the woman's eyes is superb Agreed. The rest are nice and sharp, looks like you bought a keeper Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Sigma 28/1.8 shots [was Looking for something wide and fast]
Here are a couple shots I took with my Sigma 28/1.8 (EX DG Macro version, current one). Taken with various aperture settings and ISO, including f/1.8 of course: This lens exists as 24 and 20mm as well. Some love those lenses some hate them, probably because of samples variation (heh.. Sigma !). http://picasaweb.google.com/pentaxlist/Sigma28mmF18# -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Sigma 28/1.8 shots [was Looking for something wide and fast]
Here are a couple shots I took with my Sigma 28/1.8 (EX DG Macro version, current one). Taken with various aperture settings and ISO, including f/1.8 of course: This lens exists as 24 and 20mm as well. Some love those lenses some hate them, probably because of samples variation (heh.. Sigma !). http://picasaweb.google.com/pentaxlist/Sigma28mmF18# That shot of the woman's eyes is superb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 28/1.8 shots [was Looking for something wide and fast]
That shot of the woman's eyes is superb Thank you :) LR does marvels sometimes... I love it as well but I'm very subjective since the eye is the one of my wife :D -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Sigma 28/1.8 shots [was Looking for something wide and fast]
That shot of the woman's eyes is superb Thank you :) LR does marvels sometimes... I love it as well but I'm very subjective since the eye is the one of my wife :D Your wife is very beautiful! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for something wide and fast
Larry Colen wrote: I keep finding myself needing a lens that is wide, fast and preferably reasonably sharp. Pretty much all I have wider than 31 are my 18-55 and my 18-250. I'm thinking of diverting some of the money from selling my racecar to buying glass. I think that the ideal lens would be a 16-50, and I keep bumming that I never went for the one on craigslist just before I got laid off. Poking around on ebay, I've found a few options. Pentax 16-50 seems to go for $750-800 A Zenitar K MC 2.8 16mm for $180 A couple of Pentax SMC DA 14mm f2.8 ED for around $590 SIGMA 17-35mm f2.8-4 DG EX $300 Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC $370 How do folks feel about these various lenses? Hi Larry Only have two of these. The Zenitar is the best bang per buck. Not the highest quality lens, but lots of fun, on digital and film. The DA14 is a fine lens, and a darn bit lighter than the old K mount 15mm and the Tokina AF14/2.8 that I have at the back of my cupboard. Your low light and mobile requirements would probably make this lens a serious candidate. D -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for something wide and fast
I agree. I love my 31/1.8 LTD which is not really wide but definitely fast and pretty sharp even wide open. The 20/1.8 would have some definite appeal for night photography, if also very sharp. On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:05:33PM -0600, Thomas Cakalic wrote: Not arguing or being argumentative, but if one already has two zooms that start at 18mm, then buying additional zooms that have a wide limit of 1 or 2 mm more is not getting him much, maybe a little speed, In theory, the 16-50 is a lot sharper than my 18-250, which is sharper than my 18-55. It's also about 2/3 stop faster (3.5 vs 2.8). depending on the lens. However, if the intent in purchasing is to use it mainly as a wide angle, then a fast prime makes more sense in my book, but then I'm not spending the money. I do like fast primes, and that's what I mostly shoot with. However until Boris mentioned the Sigma 20/1.8 I didn't know of much that was wider than 30 and faster than 2.8. From what I hear, the 16-50 is as sharp as a prime, and apart from the sigma mentioned above, as fast as anything shorter than 30mm. The weather sealing is also a big plus. I hear plenty fast and things like that. How fast a lens is and whether it's speed is satisfactory is dependent largely on shooting conditions, is it not? I'd want the fastest lens available/affordable, because just when you think your lense is fast enough, it's not. If f/3.5 were fast enough at 18, I could get by with the 18-250, despite it's lack of sharpness, which isn't really that bad for a lot of work. But, I keep wanting something faster than it, especially for night photography. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for something wide and fast
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 07:55:33AM +0200, Boris Liberman wrote: Larry, the fastest widest lens you can buy for K mount is Sigma 20/1.8. This sounds very interesting. It seems to be a lens that some people love, others loathe. There also seems to be a 24/1.8. I am thinking that anything else starts at f/2.8. I am thinking that likes of DA 21 and DA 15 might be good options for you though they are not as fast. Or you can try DA 14. I hadn't realized that there was a DA 14/2.8 until I started poking around today. I thought that they were 4.0, but looking at my shots from the pdml gathering I guess that it was a 15mm. If you want a single lens solution then Sigma 17-70 is an option. Thanks to Jaume I had a chance of using it and mechanically it is ok. Given the darkness outdoors I cannot say too much about its optical performance though it seemed ok. It may not be as fast as I like at the long end, but I'm mostly looking for speed at the wide end, as I have primes for 30 on up. Can anyone tell me how fast it is at 30mm? There is also Tamron 17-35/2.8-4.0 that rivals similar Sigma lens that is an option too. Both Sigma and Tamron are full frame lenses which may prove useful later on or if you shoot film. Yet another option is Tamron 17-50/2.8 which I often recommend due to its price/performance ratio. Those all seem interesting. It seems that the wealth of possibilities may spare my pocketbook just through the mechanism of indecision. Last year at Dickens Fair (which starts again next weekend), I was thinking about the lens I needed for it, and pretty much came up with 16-50 f/2.8, without knowing that the lens already existed. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for something wide and fast
Larry, Sigma produces 20,24 and 28mm 'macro' Full frame lenses. All are all f/1.8 and have an aperture ring :) I can post some pictures if you want, taken with the 28/1.8. The nice things about those is the very very close focussing distance (hence 'macro') which combined with the f/1.8 renders some very interesting DOF effects. I wouldn't call those sharpest lenses ever produced wide open tough. On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:05:33PM -0600, Thomas Cakalic wrote: Not arguing or being argumentative, but if one already has two zooms that start at 18mm, then buying additional zooms that have a wide limit of 1 or 2 mm more is not getting him much, maybe a little speed, In theory, the 16-50 is a lot sharper than my 18-250, which is sharper than my 18-55. It's also about 2/3 stop faster (3.5 vs 2.8). depending on the lens. However, if the intent in purchasing is to use it mainly as a wide angle, then a fast prime makes more sense in my book, but then I'm not spending the money. I do like fast primes, and that's what I mostly shoot with. However until Boris mentioned the Sigma 20/1.8 I didn't know of much that was wider than 30 and faster than 2.8. From what I hear, the 16-50 is as sharp as a prime, and apart from the sigma mentioned above, as fast as anything shorter than 30mm. The weather sealing is also a big plus. I hear plenty fast and things like that. How fast a lens is and whether it's speed is satisfactory is dependent largely on shooting conditions, is it not? I'd want the fastest lens available/affordable, because just when you think your lense is fast enough, it's not. If f/3.5 were fast enough at 18, I could get by with the 18-250, despite it's lack of sharpness, which isn't really that bad for a lot of work. But, I keep wanting something faster than it, especially for night photography. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for something wide and fast
2009/11/24 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: Pentax 16-50 seems to go for $750-800 How do folks feel about these various lenses? The 16-50 is nice if you have money to burn. The 18-55 WR is also OK, weather sealed and el mucho cheapo. Have no experience with any of the others as I am still struggling what to sell and what to get next... Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for something wide and fast
Hi! On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: This sounds very interesting. It seems to be a lens that some people love, others loathe. There also seems to be a 24/1.8. Larry, Sigma produces 28/1.8, 24/1.8 and 20/1.8 lenses. Due to significant sample variation, the reviews range from very contained all the way to ecstatic. Personally, I decided for now to not buy 20/1.8 or 24/1.8 though it does look tempting. The reasons being that I am not exactly happy with the way Sigma lenses render color. Also where I live, it will be virtually impossible to arrange proper cherry picking. And these lenses are rather big in size and heavy in weight. Thus, my decision to go look for FA* 24/2 which is argued to be better optically and smaller physically. There is another Sigma lens, one which I would buy in an instant if I find a good sample - AF 24/2.8 Macro II. I had this one borrowed from a friend. Wonderful optic. Read somewhere that it was either co-developed or co-produced or co-something with Leica. As sharp as A 24/2.8, slightly more prone to flare, good bokeh and AF. Just as small and light (52 mm filter diameter). On digital it would make close to ideal street shooter's autofocus lens of angle of view of 36 mm with DOF of 24 mm lens. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for something wide and fast
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I keep finding myself needing a lens that is wide, fast and preferably reasonably sharp. Pretty much all I have wider than 31 are my 18-55 and my 18-250. I'm thinking of diverting some of the money from selling my racecar to buying glass. I think that the ideal lens would be a 16-50, and I keep bumming that I never went for the one on craigslist just before I got laid off. Poking around on ebay, I've found a few options. Pentax 16-50 seems to go for $750-800 A Zenitar K MC 2.8 16mm for $180 A couple of Pentax SMC DA 14mm f2.8 ED for around $590 SIGMA 17-35mm f2.8-4 DG EX $300 Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC $370 How do folks feel about these various lenses? _IF_ you get a good one, the Zenitar is a good lens; for the price it is outstanding. It has only two major problems - the quality control and the poor lens cap design. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:10 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: _IF_ you get a good one, the Zenitar is a good lens; for the price it is outstanding. It has only two major problems - the quality control and the poor lens cap design. I second that having witnessed your copy first hand ;-), sir Mike. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 09:39:07AM +0100, Thibouille wrote: Larry, Sigma produces 20,24 and 28mm 'macro' Full frame lenses. All are all f/1.8 and have an aperture ring :) I can post some pictures if you want, taken with the 28/1.8. The nice things about those is the very very close focussing distance (hence 'macro') which combined with the f/1.8 renders some very interesting DOF effects. Very interesting, as in paper thin? I wouldn't call those sharpest lenses ever produced wide open tough. I see myself having two uses for the 20/1.8. The first is indoor dance photography. The lighting tends to be very challenging, i.e. ISO 3200, 1/6 - 1/20 second at f/1.8, with the subjects moving. I suspect that in those conditions a little softness in the lens may not be noticed. I've also been doing some landscape work, particularly nightscapes. Exposures tend to be ISO 400, f/1.8 and 10-30 seconds. My 18-250 simply isn't fast enough to get much good shots, especially at ISO 400 (cue snickering by Dave Savage). Would you guess that the lens would not be the significant weak link in those situations? How sharp is it at f/2.8 or 3.5? At 3.5 is it noticably worse than the 18-55 AL or the 18-250 at 20mm? At times like this, I envy the Canikon crowd, because one of them could probably find someone locally that had the lenses and try them out. -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Boris Liberman escribió: There is another Sigma lens, one which I would buy in an instant if I find a good sample - AF 24/2.8 Macro II. I had this one borrowed from a friend. Wonderful optic. Read somewhere that it was either co-developed or co-produced or co-something with Leica. As sharp as A 24/2.8, slightly more prone to flare, good bokeh and AF. Just as small and light (52 mm filter diameter). On digital it would make close to ideal street shooter's autofocus lens of angle of view of 36 mm with DOF of 24 mm lens. I have one of those and your words describe it very accurately. It is a gem of a lens, pity it doesn't have the improved anti reflection coatings of the EX series lenses. I had a Pentax FA* 24 mm. 2.0 which I liked a lot on film, less on the digital bodies and finally sold it. The FA* has many virtues: it is fast, well built, focuses fast and it is very contrasty. On the other hand, it shows red-green CA, easily correctable in post processing though. I also have a Sigma EX 28 mm. 1.8 which I like a lot, except for its weight and bulk. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Adam Maas The 16-45's got QSF as its sole advantage. Why would a zoom lens need the Quebec Special Forces? ;-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:19 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Adam Maas The 16-45's got QSF as its sole advantage. Why would a zoom lens need the Quebec Special Forces? That's becasue, wait for it...: No one expects the Quebec Special Forces. Dave ;-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: David J Brooks On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:19 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Adam Maas The 16-45's got QSF as its sole advantage. Why would a zoom lens need the Quebec Special Forces? That's becasue, wait for it...: No one expects the Quebec Special Forces. Dave I thought that was supposed to be *NO ONE* expects the Quebec Special Forces! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:56 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: David J Brooks On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:19 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Adam Maas The 16-45's got QSF as its sole advantage. Why would a zoom lens need the Quebec Special Forces? That's becasue, wait for it...: No one expects the Quebec Special Forces. Dave I thought that was supposed to be *NO ONE* expects the Quebec Special Forces! mY cAPS lOCK iS bROKEN dAVE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Looking for something wide and fast
I keep finding myself needing a lens that is wide, fast and preferably reasonably sharp. Pretty much all I have wider than 31 are my 18-55 and my 18-250. I'm thinking of diverting some of the money from selling my racecar to buying glass. I think that the ideal lens would be a 16-50, and I keep bumming that I never went for the one on craigslist just before I got laid off. Poking around on ebay, I've found a few options. Pentax 16-50 seems to go for $750-800 A Zenitar K MC 2.8 16mm for $180 A couple of Pentax SMC DA 14mm f2.8 ED for around $590 SIGMA 17-35mm f2.8-4 DG EX $300 Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC $370 How do folks feel about these various lenses? -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Just reading the title of this thread made me think of a Lamborghini Murcielago. Or Bette Midler ;-) regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I was thinking of a middle linebacker. Maybe Brian Urlacher or Lawrence Taylor. Paul On Nov 23, 2009, at 8:04 PM, Anthony Farr wrote: Just reading the title of this thread made me think of a Lamborghini Murcielago. Or Bette Midler ;-) regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I have the Zenitar and the DA 14/2.8. I prefer primes in general, but especially at the focal lengths that would be considered the wide and narrow ranges of a given zoom. The Zenitar is worth it's money, but tends to be easily susceptible to flare/reduced contrast in the center of the image circle. I much prefer the DA 14 for it's flare resistance, large lens hood, and of course AF. Tom On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I keep finding myself needing a lens that is wide, fast and preferably reasonably sharp. Pretty much all I have wider than 31 are my 18-55 and my 18-250. I'm thinking of diverting some of the money from selling my racecar to buying glass. I think that the ideal lens would be a 16-50, and I keep bumming that I never went for the one on craigslist just before I got laid off. Poking around on ebay, I've found a few options. Pentax 16-50 seems to go for $750-800 A Zenitar K MC 2.8 16mm for $180 A couple of Pentax SMC DA 14mm f2.8 ED for around $590 SIGMA 17-35mm f2.8-4 DG EX $300 Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC $370 How do folks feel about these various lenses? -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I love my DA* 16-50. It's plenty fast and very sharp and contrasty throughout the range. But I also like the DA 12-24. Not as fast at f4 wide open, but very good performance, and that extra chunk of angle of view comes in handy now and then. I frequently use it to shoot automobile and home interiors. Paul On Nov 23, 2009, at 7:18 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I keep finding myself needing a lens that is wide, fast and preferably reasonably sharp. Pretty much all I have wider than 31 are my 18-55 and my 18-250. I'm thinking of diverting some of the money from selling my racecar to buying glass. I think that the ideal lens would be a 16-50, and I keep bumming that I never went for the one on craigslist just before I got laid off. Poking around on ebay, I've found a few options. Pentax 16-50 seems to go for $750-800 A Zenitar K MC 2.8 16mm for $180 A couple of Pentax SMC DA 14mm f2.8 ED for around $590 SIGMA 17-35mm f2.8-4 DG EX $300 Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC $370 How do folks feel about these various lenses? -- The first step is learning to take great photos, the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Larry Colen wrote: I keep finding myself needing a lens that is wide, fast and preferably reasonably sharp. Pretty much all I have wider than 31 are my 18-55 and my 18-250. I'm thinking of diverting some of the money from selling my racecar to buying glass. I think that the ideal lens would be a 16-50, and I keep bumming that I never went for the one on craigslist just before I got laid off. Poking around on ebay, I've found a few options. Pentax 16-50 seems to go for $750-800 A Zenitar K MC 2.8 16mm for $180 A couple of Pentax SMC DA 14mm f2.8 ED for around $590 SIGMA 17-35mm f2.8-4 DG EX $300 Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC $370 How about the Pentax 16-45? Slower than the 16-50 but smaller and cheaper. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Nov 23, 2009, at 10:17 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Larry Colen wrote: I keep finding myself needing a lens that is wide, fast and preferably reasonably sharp. Pretty much all I have wider than 31 are my 18-55 and my 18-250. I'm thinking of diverting some of the money from selling my racecar to buying glass. I think that the ideal lens would be a 16-50, and I keep bumming that I never went for the one on craigslist just before I got laid off. Poking around on ebay, I've found a few options. Pentax 16-50 seems to go for $750-800 A Zenitar K MC 2.8 16mm for $180 A couple of Pentax SMC DA 14mm f2.8 ED for around $590 SIGMA 17-35mm f2.8-4 DG EX $300 Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC $370 How about the Pentax 16-45? Slower than the 16-50 but smaller and cheaper. Good point. That's an excellent lens as well. I'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between that lens and the 16-50 at f 5.6 or so. I sold mine and bought the 16-50 because I need the speed for weddings and other indoor events, but in every other way, the performance was comparable. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I keep finding myself needing a lens that is wide, fast and preferably reasonably sharp. Pretty much all I have wider than 31 are my 18-55 and my 18-250. I'm thinking of diverting some of the money from selling my racecar to buying glass. I think that the ideal lens would be a 16-50, and I keep bumming that I never went for the one on craigslist just before I got laid off. Poking around on ebay, I've found a few options. Pentax 16-50 seems to go for $750-800 A Zenitar K MC 2.8 16mm for $180 A couple of Pentax SMC DA 14mm f2.8 ED for around $590 SIGMA 17-35mm f2.8-4 DG EX $300 Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC $370 How do folks feel about these various lenses? Here's a strong recommendation for teh Sigma 17-70. I had it for a while when I had my K10D. You give up QSF, but get a lens which is as fast or faster throughout its range than the DA 16-45 and is better built, is a very good performer optically, offers 1:2.3 magnification and has a zoom lock which locks it at 17mm I generally used it as a 17mm prime with reach when I needed it, mostly left it locked at 17mm. And I wish I still had it, it would have been nice on my DS. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
