March PUG - Apology
It seems I've overlooked submissions from Rick & Bill. I'm not sure what happened. I have a system whereby submissions are redirected to my personal email account but those two didn't show up there. On checking the Komkon server, I see that they are indeed there. Give me half & hour or so and I'll add them to the gallery. Again, my apologies Brian (the mystified) W -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The K-1 apology
Anyone had a chance to check out the Priolite System it mentions? I looked at the web page. Might not be too expensive to use if you were a WORKING professional. On 3/30/2016 2:49 PM, David Parsons wrote: Why does that sound like an apology? "While the K-1 is not industry-leading in terms of flash sync speed or third-party support, a step forward in this area is always welcome." It sounds like an acknowledgement that for all the great improvements, there's always room for more. On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Collin B <coll...@brendemuehl.net> wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/gear-guides/10-unique-features-pentax-k -1.html The section on the flash sync, while honest, really reads like an apology, an admission of failure. Otherwise, a nice set of fieatures. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The K-1 apology
David Parsons wrote: Why does that sound like an apology? "While the K-1 is not industry-leading in terms of flash sync speed or third-party support, a step forward in this area is always welcome." It sounds like an acknowledgement that for all the great improvements, there's always room for more. Besides, if the K-1 were perfect, that would kill sales for the K-1-II. On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Collin B<coll...@brendemuehl.net> wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/gear-guides/10-unique-features-pentax-k -1.html The section on the flash sync, while honest, really reads like an apology, an admission of failure. Otherwise, a nice set of fieatures. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: The K-1 apology
Why does that sound like an apology? "While the K-1 is not industry-leading in terms of flash sync speed or third-party support, a step forward in this area is always welcome." It sounds like an acknowledgement that for all the great improvements, there's always room for more. On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Collin B <coll...@brendemuehl.net> wrote: > http://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/gear-guides/10-unique-features-pentax-k > -1.html > > The section on the flash sync, while honest, really reads like an apology, > an admission of failure. > Otherwise, a nice set of fieatures. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- My Year38 365 project http://year38.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
The K-1 apology
http://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/gear-guides/10-unique-features-pentax-k -1.html The section on the flash sync, while honest, really reads like an apology, an admission of failure. Otherwise, a nice set of fieatures. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Apology from Ricoh Imagining
Did anyone else receive this via email tonight? http://view.s6.exacttarget.com/?j=fec91561007em=fe9212737561007873ls=fe22157873660178701c75l=fefb117270640cs=fe5411620d7f7013jb=ffcf14ju=fe5f1571776207797d13r=0 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Apology from Ricoh Imagining
Yes I received it tonight as well. Jeffery Johnson Photo Captures by Jeffery http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com http://www.Facebook.com/photocapturesbyjeffery https://twitter.com/PhotoCaptures Bringing joy and happiness to lonely and depressed walls across the nation with wonderful eclectic photography and Pet photo sessions for an array of pets and their families. On 10/24/2014 9:39 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Did anyone else receive this via email tonight? http://view.s6.exacttarget.com/?j=fec91561007em=fe9212737561007873ls=fe22157873660178701c75l=fefb117270640cs=fe5411620d7f7013jb=ffcf14ju=fe5f1571776207797d13r=0 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Apology from Ricoh Imagining
Got it. Paul via phone On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:39 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Did anyone else receive this via email tonight? http://view.s6.exacttarget.com/?j=fec91561007em=fe9212737561007873ls=fe22157873660178701c75l=fefb117270640cs=fe5411620d7f7013jb=ffcf14ju=fe5f1571776207797d13r=0 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Apology from Ricoh Imagining
I got one. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Oct 24, 2014, at 9:39 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Did anyone else receive this via email tonight? http://view.s6.exacttarget.com/?j=fec91561007em=fe9212737561007873ls=fe22157873660178701c75l=fefb117270640cs=fe5411620d7f7013jb=ffcf14ju=fe5f1571776207797d13r=0 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Apology from Ricoh Imagining
I got it as well and say good on Ricoh for owning up to minor marketing goof. Mark On 10/24/2014 10:39 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Did anyone else receive this via email tonight? http://view.s6.exacttarget.com/?j=fec91561007em=fe9212737561007873ls=fe22157873660178701c75l=fefb117270640cs=fe5411620d7f7013jb=ffcf14ju=fe5f1571776207797d13r=0 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Apology from Ricoh Imagining
I got something from Ricoh but did't open it just sent it to the trash.. I don't remember the subject line - don't think it said Apology from... ann On 10/24/2014 23:05, Mark C wrote: I got it as well and say good on Ricoh for owning up to minor marketing goof. Mark On 10/24/2014 10:39 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Did anyone else receive this via email tonight? http://view.s6.exacttarget.com/?j=fec91561007em=fe9212737561007873ls=fe22157873660178701c75l=fefb117270640cs=fe5411620d7f7013jb=ffcf14ju=fe5f1571776207797d13r=0 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Apology
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen I would never dream of referring to Marlene as either the missus or the Mrs. I simply call her my old lady. Yeah but you don't mind calling me your bitch. Cotty, I always thought of you as more of a rake than a hoe. any tool will do when he's gardening uphill... B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Apology
On 1 January 2012 10:00, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Cotty, I always thought of you as more of a rake than a hoe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoPFkjF-Bdo regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Apology
On 2/1/12, Anthony Farr, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoPFkjF-Bdo lol -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Apology
I was just looking over some older posts and I noticed my PESO, At the Outlet Mall. I read the thread and I realize that, in my misguided attempt to be funny I actually insulted my common law wife, Judy. Calling her the missus is patronizing and demeaning. I don't think of her that way and it was wrong of me to refer to her that fashion. Despite what I said in the thread, I quite enjoyed my day. Although outlet malls are scary places to be, we went at my behest not hers, and I did indeed encourage to buy the bag I mentioned, not because I was trying to appease or manipulate her, but because I really liked it and knew she did too. Although I was tired at the time I took the photo, the day was not one of boredom; rather, I had fun despite the location. We always have fun when we're with each other, no matter where we are. I apologize publically to Judy and this list for saying those things about her and our day. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Apology
Considerate, respectful tribute to your love. Beautifully said, Frank. I'd wager she's proud of you too. Jack From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 6:40 AM Subject: Apology I was just looking over some older posts and I noticed my PESO, At the Outlet Mall. I read the thread and I realize that, in my misguided attempt to be funny I actually insulted my common law wife, Judy. Calling her the missus is patronizing and demeaning. I don't think of her that way and it was wrong of me to refer to her that fashion. Despite what I said in the thread, I quite enjoyed my day. Although outlet malls are scary places to be, we went at my behest not hers, and I did indeed encourage to buy the bag I mentioned, not because I was trying to appease or manipulate her, but because I really liked it and knew she did too. Although I was tired at the time I took the photo, the day was not one of boredom; rather, I had fun despite the location. We always have fun when we're with each other, no matter where we are. I apologize publically to Judy and this list for saying those things about her and our day. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Apology
On 31/12/11, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Calling her the missus is patronizing and demeaning. I totally agree mate. I call mine The Mrs. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Apology
On Dec 31, 2011, at 6:40 AM, frank theriault wrote: I was just looking over some older posts and I noticed my PESO, At the Outlet Mall. I read the thread and I realize that, in my misguided attempt to be funny I actually insulted my common law wife, Judy. Frank, anybody that took your remarks in any way other than how you meant them seriously needs to have their sense of humor replaced. Calling her the missus is patronizing and demeaning. I don't think of her that way and it was wrong of me to refer to her that fashion. Even in prose, that's known as poetic license. Despite what I said in the thread, I quite enjoyed my day. Although outlet malls are scary places to be, we went at my behest not hers, and I did indeed encourage to buy the bag I mentioned, not because I was trying to appease or manipulate her, but because I really liked it and knew she did too. Although I was tired at the time I took the photo, the day was not one of boredom; rather, I had fun despite the location. We always have fun when we're with each other, no matter where we are. I apologize publically to Judy and this list for saying those things about her and our day. It seems to be that you're Jewish enough to complain about things that you really don't mind, but Catholic enough to feel guilty about it. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Apology
On Dec 31, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Cotty wrote: On 31/12/11, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Calling her the missus is patronizing and demeaning. I totally agree mate. I call mine The Mrs. I would never dream of referring to Marlene as either the missus or the Mrs. I simply call her my old lady. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Apology
I don't find the Missus patronizing - I think it is rather nice - especially if you aren't actually technically married in the eyes of the law. although, in the context I think Frank refers to I would have preferred 'My sweetie or my better half ann On 12/31/2011 15:40, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Dec 31, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Cotty wrote: On 31/12/11, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: Calling her the missus is patronizing and demeaning. I totally agree mate. I call mine The Mrs. I would never dream of referring to Marlene as either the missus or the Mrs. I simply call her my old lady. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Apology
On 31/12/11, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: I would never dream of referring to Marlene as either the missus or the Mrs. I simply call her my old lady. Yeah but you don't mind calling me your bitch. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Apology
On Dec 31, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Cotty wrote: On 31/12/11, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: I would never dream of referring to Marlene as either the missus or the Mrs. I simply call her my old lady. Yeah but you don't mind calling me your bitch. I thought that was just between us. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Apology
I would never dream of referring to Marlene as either the missus or the Mrs. I simply call her my old lady. Yeah but you don't mind calling me your bitch. I thought that was just between us. Now both of you boys owe me a monitor cleaning. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Apology
I would never dream of referring to Marlene as either the missus or the Mrs. I simply call her my old lady. Yeah but you don't mind calling me your bitch. I thought that was just between us. On 31/12/11, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: Now both of you boys owe me a monitor cleaning. I suppose that'll be me then **won't it Paul** ... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Apology
On Dec 31, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Cotty wrote: On 31/12/11, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: I would never dream of referring to Marlene as either the missus or the Mrs. I simply call her my old lady. Yeah but you don't mind calling me your bitch. Cotty, I always thought of you as more of a rake than a hoe. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Apology
On 31/12/11, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: I would never dream of referring to Marlene as either the missus or the Mrs. I simply call her my old lady. Yeah but you don't mind calling me your bitch. Cotty, I always thought of you as more of a rake than a hoe. Cheers mate - another screen that needs a clean. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Apology
On Dec 31, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Cotty wrote: I would never dream of referring to Marlene as either the missus or the Mrs. I simply call her my old lady. Yeah but you don't mind calling me your bitch. I thought that was just between us. On 31/12/11, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: Now both of you boys owe me a monitor cleaning. I suppose that'll be me then **won't it Paul** ... Get busy bitch. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Apology
Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 31, 2011, at 6:40 AM, frank theriault wrote: I was just looking over some older posts and I noticed my PESO, At the Outlet Mall. I read the thread and I realize that, in my misguided attempt to be funny I actually insulted my common law wife, Judy. Frank, anybody that took your remarks in any way other than how you meant them seriously needs to have their sense of humor replaced. Seconded! Happy new year! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
ot, but still pentax-related: an apology
No, it's not about the joke on Boris... I have just finished a tough project, and the last few days I simply skimmed the PDML daily looking for specific bits that would allow me to get the most out of my current photo gear in the photographic part of said project. The interesting part is the best way to complete the job is keeping 35mm cameras and some rolls of high iso film nearby. And that includes an old camera capable of 72 low quality shots per roll, something most unusual in working condition but already procured. ;-) Special thanks for all who posted samples, experiences, ideas and even biased theories about the possible or impossible use of DA lenses in 35mm. After the first and hasty question I found a large and precious amount of information, needed fast because I had a strict deadline to present my project. I won't lie - the project I submitted will not be performed with Pentax gear. Not because the other brand is better, but because it's cheaper and quicker to buy the rest of the needed gadgets from the other brand. Wich is also easier to sell after the project is completed - assuming of course the cameras will survive a hot, dusty, isolated environment. Possible. All needed parts are currently available here, some are already home. Buying Pentax would allow me to use some items I already own, and keep the extras at the end of the service. But that would mean yet more tangle with BR customs, shipping rates, actual availability of the lens - and still face the possible wear due to harsh conditions. I would not save something in the buying phase, and would not be selling after. Buying, using and than selling the other brand looks strange, but I'll possibly lose close to nothing as I already own the film camera and will not be keeping it after the job is done. I'll be still watching for the best 35mm coverage in my new Pentax lenses, as I'm still keeping some 35mm cameras nearby. But this job - assuming I get the green light, there are others trying and mine is unusual for sure - is going to be a dark side job. The apology?? Almost forgot... :-) I simply didn't try to keep up with your galleries and photos - and I'm not happy bout it. Too much stress, too little free time. That's changing from now on, hopefully. Your photos (and videos) are very important for me - for some dark time they helped to keep what (little, but some) sanity I have. Thanks, friends. That's all, folks. I just felt you should know a little more about the quest for the 35mm lens coverage, and why I didn't comment - and watched - your photos as usual, lately. Do keep some fingers crossed for my project... :-) LF -- Luiz Felipe luiz.felipe at techmit.com.br http://techmit.com.br/luizfelipe/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT Whoops! Apology.
Beardy's crew at Virgin have comprehensively changed the webmail interface. Amongst other things that are nonsensical, they have made the default reply include cc messages to the individual senders to PDML. I have only just noticed this, blind twit that I am. My apologies to those who have received excess messages from me - and my apologies to those who will, as there appears to be no way of removing this feature. I shall try to remember to delete the cc. My Seasonal wishes for Virgin are different to those for everyone else. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Errata (was Re: PESO - Tarballs) apology
Sorry, we had a server hiccup here and I was getting protocol error messages. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Re: Errata (was Re: PESO - Tarballs) apology
Bad luck. They're the worst kind. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: 05 February 2008 11:56 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Re: Errata (was Re: PESO - Tarballs) apology Sorry, we had a server hiccup here and I was getting protocol error messages. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
re: open apology to listers
From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/12/09 Sun PM 05:57:59 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: re: open apology to listers Mat Maessen wrote: Turn off the nVidia utility at startup. Start-Run, type msconfig, find it in the list and uncheck it. Reboot to verify whether or not it fixed the problem. Thanks Mat, Never used that on Vista before, but it looks like it actually works. Had to disable every entry with nVidia on it, but now the Spyder profile stays loaded, and I can still operate my screen at the same resolution. :-) Now I can cancel my wish to Santa for a Matrox video card. Too late. Ho ho ho! - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
re: open apology to listers
Credit card has already been charged! mmmyahahahaha J --- mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/12/09 Sun PM 05:57:59 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: re: open apology to listers Mat Maessen wrote: Turn off the nVidia utility at startup. Start-Run, type msconfig, find it in the list and uncheck it. Reboot to verify whether or not it fixed the problem. Thanks Mat, Never used that on Vista before, but it looks like it actually works. Had to disable every entry with nVidia on it, but now the Spyder profile stays loaded, and I can still operate my screen at the same resolution. :-) Now I can cancel my wish to Santa for a Matrox video card. Too late. Ho ho ho! - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
re: open apology to listers
Marnie wrote: Hmmm, I have an nVida card. :-( How do you run the Spyder startup routine manually, Jostein? On your Start menu in Windows, move the mouse to all programs, and then to startup. There you will find an icon for the Spyder (possibly called OptiCal, depending on your Spyder version). Press down the CTRL key while dragging the icon (with the mouse) onto the desktop. Then you have an easily accessible shortcut which you can double-click at will. Note that not all nVidia cards are affected. I have a card sporting the 7600-series chipset in my old computer, and that works just fine. It's just the 8600-series, afaik. One clue as to whether your machine is affected is to just right-click the mouse on a vacant space of the desktop. if the item nVidia Control Panel is not on the list, you're safe. In any case, you could open the screen properties. Screen number 1 (you have only one, right...? - Like us other mortals...) will be described as something like: 1. PnP screen on here comes the video card description. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
re: open apology to listers
Mat Maessen wrote: Turn off the nVidia utility at startup. Start-Run, type msconfig, find it in the list and uncheck it. Reboot to verify whether or not it fixed the problem. Thanks Mat, Never used that on Vista before, but it looks like it actually works. Had to disable every entry with nVidia on it, but now the Spyder profile stays loaded, and I can still operate my screen at the same resolution. :-) Now I can cancel my wish to Santa for a Matrox video card. Cheers, Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
re: open apology to listers
William Robb wrote: As best as I can tell, My card uses a Parhelia chipset. I've spent about a half hour on this, and this is as close as I've gotten to an answer. Have you gone into the color management ara of your display properties and told the darned thing which color profile to use as the default? Hmm.. The Parhelia chipset is from Matrox. Shouldn't be a problem with the driver overriding the colour profile set by the system, I think. We have two different series of recent (G550-based) Matrox cards at work, and neither mess up colour profiles. I think that doing as you suggest could be the right thing to do; to insert the calibrated profile as default. From your first post I assume you have recently made a switch from CRT to LCD screen. I think you're right that the old OptiCal wasn't ideal for calibrating LCD screens. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: open apology to listers
On 12/9/07, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From your first post I assume you have recently made a switch from CRT to LCD screen. I think you're right that the old OptiCal wasn't ideal for calibrating LCD screens. If you installed the OptiCal off of the the bundled CD that came w/ the Spyder, check the Pantone/ColorVision website for an updated version. You may have to put in your serial number again, but that should be on the sleeve of the original CD. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: open apology to listers
In a message dated 12/9/2007 9:58:29 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One clue as to whether your machine is affected is to just right-click the mouse on a vacant space of the desktop. if the item nVidia Control Panel is not on the list, you're safe. In any case, you could open the screen properties. Screen number 1 (you have only one, right...? - Like us other mortals...) will be described as something like: == Oh, oh. It's threee! Thanks for the info., Josetein. Marnie aka Doe ;-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Open Apology Letter to Listers
This AM I finally became convinced that my computer's LED screen was too dark. I dug out my Huey and set about its re-calibration. When finished, I saw a much lighter screen image. I went back and pulled up First Snow which was posted by Francis, I believe, and saw what I consider a beautifully exposed image. All my saved files (the ones I checked) are now lighter, to the point where I set about doing some re-works. It hadn't been that long since last using Huey, so am surprised. I apologize for the wonderment I might have caused by posting misguided exposure reviews. I'll watch it in the future. Jack :-( Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Open Apology Letter to Listers
- Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: Open Apology Letter to Listers This AM I finally became convinced that my computer's LED screen was too dark. I dug out my Huey and set about its re-calibration. When finished, I saw a much lighter screen image. I went back and pulled up First Snow which was posted by Francis, I believe, and saw what I consider a beautifully exposed image. All my saved files (the ones I checked) are now lighter, to the point where I set about doing some re-works. It hadn't been that long since last using Huey, so am surprised. I apologize for the wonderment I might have caused by posting misguided exposure reviews. I'll watch it in the future. That's OK, my new system is putting me through calibration hell also, and I use a monitor spyder. A couple of weeks ago, I ended up trying out the visual calibration tools that came packed with my monitor driver to see if that would work better (it didn't). I finally changed software from OptiCal, which worked really well with my CRT to PhotCal, and that seems to be better, but as of yet I haven't printed anything with the new calibration, so I don't know for sure. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: open apology to listers
Bill, Jack, Just out of curiosity; which chipset are your video cards based on? I ask because I'm annoyed with my nVidia 8600 -based card. It's made by Asus, but brand doesn't matter since nVidia provides the drivers. What the nVidia driver does is to override the colour profile loaded by Spyder on startup, so I have to re-run the Spyder startup routine manually, about a minute after login. My machine runs Vista 64 bit, but the issue is the same on my friends computer with XP. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: open apology to listers
In a message dated 12/8/2007 2:45:01 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill, Jack, Just out of curiosity; which chipset are your video cards based on? I ask because I'm annoyed with my nVidia 8600 -based card. It's made by Asus, but brand doesn't matter since nVidia provides the drivers. What the nVidia driver does is to override the colour profile loaded by Spyder on startup, so I have to re-run the Spyder startup routine manually, about a minute after login. My machine runs Vista 64 bit, but the issue is the same on my friends computer with XP. Jostein == Hmmm, I have an nVida card. :-( How do you run the Spyder startup routine manually, Jostein? Marnie aka Doe I also have a Spyder and I, also, often tell people they are too dark. - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: open apology to listers
- Original Message - From: AlunFoto Subject: Re: open apology to listers Bill, Jack, Just out of curiosity; which chipset are your video cards based on? I ask because I'm annoyed with my nVidia 8600 -based card. It's made by Asus, but brand doesn't matter since nVidia provides the drivers. What the nVidia driver does is to override the colour profile loaded by Spyder on startup, so I have to re-run the Spyder startup routine manually, about a minute after login. My machine runs Vista 64 bit, but the issue is the same on my friends computer with XP. As best as I can tell, My card uses a Parhelia chipset. I've spent about a half hour on this, and this is as close as I've gotten to an answer. Have you gone into the color management ara of your display properties and told the darned thing which color profile to use as the default? William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: open apology to listers
On 12/8/07, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What the nVidia driver does is to override the colour profile loaded by Spyder on startup, so I have to re-run the Spyder startup routine manually, about a minute after login. My machine runs Vista 64 bit, but the issue is the same on my friends computer with XP. Turn off the nVidia utility at startup. Start-Run, type msconfig, find it in the list and uncheck it. Reboot to verify whether or not it fixed the problem. -Mat, who bought a mac specifically to get away from these issues. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Apology
I apologize for picking the wrong address from my list to unsubscribe. I'll stay away until the new camera hysteria dies down. D -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Apology Re: OT What people buy after looking at K10D?
Don't know what happened there. Stupid webmail interface decided to spew numerous replies for some reason. There's a response at the bottom of one of them, if you can be bothered. Apologies for the waste of time and electrons. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Loving Family (an apology)
I want to apologize for giving Jack a hard time over his posting of my photo and for boring the list with that long discourse. I was having a rough day, and I think I misplaced some anger. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PUG reminder and apology
Hi guys and gals, The next PUG deadline approacheth. Time to get the submissions ready, folks. The apology is for not having the submission form currently up and running. The ISP has been notified, and I await response. News of the condition will be coming. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG reminder and apology
Thanks for the reminder! Got the pic chosen (architecture theme), just need to locate it and see if I prepared it properly. Or did I already submit it a few months ago?? Too much going on, too little brainpower... Rick --- Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys and gals, The next PUG deadline approacheth. Time to get the submissions ready, folks. The apology is for not having the submission form currently up and running. The ISP has been notified, and I await response. News of the condition will be coming. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Apology and review (of Sandisk photoviewer).
- Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was using full size images, fresh from the camera. Smaller ones would speed up loading for sure. Wonder how the quality fares when you do that? It's no alternative for a slide projector... Just as an aside; In a local photo club we have done projections of both 35mm slides (leica projector) and digital (Epson LCD) on the same canvas. What strikes me as odd is that the perceived quality is higher for a 1024x768 pixel digital image than for a slide with much higher resolution. It's simply a lot more pleasing to look at. Granted, it was a PITA to get the colour adjustments right, but once worked out the viewing experience was really stunning. Jostein
Re: Apology and review (of Sandisk photoviewer).
I don't understand what you mean by - a slide with much higher resolution. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 1:23 PM Subject: Re: Apology and review (of Sandisk photoviewer). - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was using full size images, fresh from the camera. Smaller ones would speed up loading for sure. Wonder how the quality fares when you do that? It's no alternative for a slide projector... Just as an aside; In a local photo club we have done projections of both 35mm slides (leica projector) and digital (Epson LCD) on the same canvas. What strikes me as odd is that the perceived quality is higher for a 1024x768 pixel digital image than for a slide with much higher resolution. It's simply a lot more pleasing to look at. Granted, it was a PITA to get the colour adjustments right, but once worked out the viewing experience was really stunning. Jostein
Re: Apology and review (of Sandisk photoviewer).
what was your procedure for getting accurate color? Herb - Original Message - From: Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 1:23 PM Subject: Re: Apology and review (of Sandisk photoviewer). In a local photo club we have done projections of both 35mm slides (leica projector) and digital (Epson LCD) on the same canvas. What strikes me as odd is that the perceived quality is higher for a 1024x768 pixel digital image than for a slide with much higher resolution. It's simply a lot more pleasing to look at. Granted, it was a PITA to get the colour adjustments right, but once worked out the viewing experience was really stunning.
Re: Apology and review (of Sandisk photoviewer).
I did a slide show for family at Christmas time via the Sandisk viewer. Not straight from the camera; rather, I assembled a set of images on my computer, downloaded to a CF card and went from there. Some observations: 1. The viewer has a slow processor. Smaller images process faster. Next time I will downsize the images I use in such a show. 2. My computer stored the files in Name order on the CF card. I could have forced a Date order but that would have been a mishmash because the date on the files is when they are created on the card, the original creation date isn't inherited. In either case, you have a linear show, no easy capability to sort like images together. 3. I tried to solve the linearity problem by creating a series of folders. I hoped that the viewer would progress folder-by-folder (with linearity within folders). Instead it pulled the top image from each folder in succession, then the second image from each folder, etc. Conclusion: if you want to use the Sandisk as an alternative for a slide projector, and you are used to sorting your slides into a story line which is not the same as the order of image capture and you want to control the duration of viewing for an individual image from very brief to longer times, then: - reduce the file sizes - rename all of the images using a sequence number reflecting the desired ordering of images. Note that I have not commented on image quality. Those interested in quality projection are encouraged to explore something called film. Certain films are suited for projection via a process that involves shining a light through the film onto a piece of stretched material called a screen. Check the oldies-but-goodies section of your local store. Stan On Jan 29, 2005, at 10:52 AM, mike wilson wrote: Hi, It appears I was entirely incorrect about Godfrey. His opinions, incorrect as they may be [ 8-) ], are sincerely held. I apologise for calling you a troll, as you are patently not. Welcome to the wonderful world of PDML! I have been using the Sandisk photoviewer this afternoon. It takes all sorts of cards and sends a picture to your TV. Switchable between PAL and Never The Same Colour. Very limited set of features, slow to upload and interesting... colour rendition. If you have a large family who are happy to sit through your work as presented on a TV screen, it may be worth it but I heartily do not recommend it. mike
Re: Apology and review (of Sandisk photoviewer).
Stan Halpin wrote: I did a slide show for family at Christmas time via the Sandisk viewer. Not straight from the camera; rather, I assembled a set of images on my computer, downloaded to a CF card and went from there. Some observations: 1. The viewer has a slow processor. Smaller images process faster. Next time I will downsize the images I use in such a show. 2. My computer stored the files in Name order on the CF card. I could have forced a Date order but that would have been a mishmash because the date on the files is when they are created on the card, the original creation date isn't inherited. In either case, you have a linear show, no easy capability to sort like images together. 3. I tried to solve the linearity problem by creating a series of folders. I hoped that the viewer would progress folder-by-folder (with linearity within folders). Instead it pulled the top image from each folder in succession, then the second image from each folder, etc. Conclusion: if you want to use the Sandisk as an alternative for a slide projector, and you are used to sorting your slides into a story line which is not the same as the order of image capture and you want to control the duration of viewing for an individual image from very brief to longer times, then: - reduce the file sizes - rename all of the images using a sequence number reflecting the desired ordering of images. Mine had an intersting foible: if you were looking at a preview page of images, there was one large image in the top left corner, surrounded by about 8 smaller images on the right and bottom sides. A poorly-highlighted box showed which of the images was being viewed at larger size. Once you got to the last of the images, another screenfull (screenful? screen full?) loaded. Which took ages. Most irritating. I was using full size images, fresh from the camera. Smaller ones would speed up loading for sure. Wonder how the quality fares when you do that? It's no alternative for a slide projector... mike
Apology and review.
Hi, It appears I was entirely incorrect about Godfrey. His opinions, incorrect as they may be [ 8-) ], are sincerely held. I apologise for calling you a troll, as you are patently not. Welcome to the wonderful world of PDML! I have been using the Sandisk photoviewer this afternoon. It takes all sorts of cards and sends a picture to your TV. Switchable between PAL and Never The Same Colour. Very limited set of features, slow to upload and interesting... colour rendition. If you have a large family who are happy to sit through your work as presented on a TV screen, it may be worth it but I heartily do not recommend it. mike
Re: OT: Sandisk viewer (was Apology and review.)
I have been using one for about a month, at my families request. Somehow I can't project those jpegs with my slide projector. VBG I paid $29.95 for mine, beats the heck out of $1000 digital projector. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 11:52 AM Subject: Apology and review. Hi, It appears I was entirely incorrect about Godfrey. His opinions, incorrect as they may be [ 8-) ], are sincerely held. I apologise for calling you a troll, as you are patently not. Welcome to the wonderful world of PDML! I have been using the Sandisk photoviewer this afternoon. It takes all sorts of cards and sends a picture to your TV. Switchable between PAL and Never The Same Colour. Very limited set of features, slow to upload and interesting... colour rendition. If you have a large family who are happy to sit through your work as presented on a TV screen, it may be worth it but I heartily do not recommend it. mike
apology for previous post
Sorry. I posted without adding a subject line. Severe brain fart on my part. Hooroo. Regards, Trevor Australia Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - Henry Louis Mencken
Re: Incredible - apology
Once again just because he's British. http://elc.polyu.edu.hk/CILL/eiw/apologise.htm Cotty wrote: On 26/8/04, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: And I Apologize for my response to your mention of e-bay, and let me apologize in advance for Cotty because he's English don't you know. And I'm sorry you can't spell apologise properly. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ -- Politicians are interested in people. Not that this is a virtue. Fleas are interested in dogs. P. J. O'Rourke
RE: Incredible - apology
See, in AUSTRALIA, we actually DO spell it with a Z! ha! tan. -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 27 August 2004 10:06 AM To: pentax list Subject: Re: Incredible - apology On 26/8/04, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: And I Apologize for my response to your mention of e-bay, and let me apologize in advance for Cotty because he's English don't you know. And I'm sorry you can't spell apologise properly. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: Incredible - apology
Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: See, in AUSTRALIA, we actually DO spell it with a Z! ha! tan. Zit? Ha! - back atcha! keith -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 27 August 2004 10:06 AM To: pentax list Subject: Re: Incredible - apology On 26/8/04, Peter J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: And I Apologize for my response to your mention of e-bay, and let me apologize in advance for Cotty because he's English don't you know. And I'm sorry you can't spell apologise properly. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
Re: Re (Was Re: Comment and Question (WAS: RE: Apology for............))
Hi, Thursday, July 22, 2004, 6:57:07 AM, Stan wrote: Bob, On this side of the pond, using what is oxymoronically known as American English, there is a businesspersons' phrase which is used as follows: Dear Mr. Jones: In re: your letter of the 5th,... with the apparent presumption being that 're' is short for 'reference'. I have never seen/heard 'in re to...' which you might expect if 're' were taken to be short for 'reply'. Could it be that 're:' is in fact proper usage, that it is a shorthand reference to 'reference'? 'in re' is Latin meaning 'in the matter of'. It is a rather fusty, legalistic term - it cam into general use from the law. I personally would discourage it. It serves no useful purpose and just sounds archaic and bureaucratic, if not pompous. 'Businesspersons' are not necessarily our best guide to good style in writing g. -- Cheers, Bob
RE: Re (Was Re: Comment and Question (WAS: RE: Apology for............))
hmmm, i always thought that In re: meant in regards to... which i guess equates to the same meaning as in reference to... tan. -Original Message- From: Stan Halpin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 22 July 2004 3:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re (Was Re: Comment and Question (WAS: RE: Apology for)) Bob, On this side of the pond, using what is oxymoronically known as American English, there is a businesspersons' phrase which is used as follows: Dear Mr. Jones: In re: your letter of the 5th,... with the apparent presumption being that 're' is short for 'reference'. I have never seen/heard 'in re to...' which you might expect if 're' were taken to be short for 'reply'. Could it be that 're:' is in fact proper usage, that it is a shorthand reference to 'reference'? Stan On Jul 21, 2004, at 2:10 AM, Bob W wrote: Hi, Nice post Lasse. AW means AntWort in German, same as RE: . schoolmasterish pendantry well, not quite. 're' is Latin for 'about' and is a complete word in its own right. It is not short for 'reply', as some people think. Placing 're' in the subject line for replies is an unfortunate grammatical error that has been cast in digital concrete. /schoolmasterish pedantry -- Cheers, Bob
Re: PDML Mini FAQ (was Re-- Comment and Question (WAS: RE-- Apology for............)
To eat the bugs, of course... DagT Fra: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] why would you put a cat in your computer? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:32 AM Subject: Re: PDML Mini FAQ (was Re-- Comment and Question (WAS: RE-- Apology for) No, I like Cats, especially like these: http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=121734 Warning: All cats in this photo has been manipulated in a computer... :-) DagT Fra: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll agree with your consensus rules, graywolf, except the one about cat pictures. Let's have not more pictures of cats, only nice dog pictures!!! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.720 / Virus Database: 476 - Release Date: 7/20/2004
Re: Re (Was Re: Comment and Question (WAS: RE: Apology for............))
--- Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, 'in re' is Latin meaning 'in the matter of'. It is a rather fusty, legalistic term - it cam into general use from the law. I personally would discourage it. It serves no useful purpose and just sounds archaic and bureaucratic, if not pompous. Bob, Yes, indeed. I had forgotten all about that, but your little rambling must have fired off a few dusty, little used lately, neurons in my brain. Reference cases (that would be, IIRC, cases that aren't necessarily adversarial, but ask the court a question on a point of law), are prefaced in the court reports with in re. So, rather than a case being named Cottrell vs. Metamoros, a reference case may be called In re: Halpin. Ah, memories... cheers, frank = The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
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In my experience cats don't actually eat bugs, just play with them and leave parts all over the floor. I think that would be bad in the computer. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To eat the bugs, of course... DagT Fra: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] why would you put a cat in your computer? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:32 AM Subject: Re: PDML Mini FAQ (was Re-- Comment and Question (WAS: RE-- Apology for) No, I like Cats, especially like these: http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=121734 Warning: All cats in this photo has been manipulated in a computer... :-) DagT Fra: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll agree with your consensus rules, graywolf, except the one about cat pictures. Let's have not more pictures of cats, only nice dog pictures!!! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.720 / Virus Database: 476 - Release Date: 7/20/2004
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As I said, my cats are manipulated, they eat them :-) DagT På 22. jul. 2004 kl. 17.09 skrev Peter J. Alling: In my experience cats don't actually eat bugs, just play with them and leave parts all over the floor. I think that would be bad in the computer. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To eat the bugs, of course... DagT Fra: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] why would you put a cat in your computer? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:32 AM Subject: Re: PDML Mini FAQ (was Re-- Comment and Question (WAS: RE-- Apology for) No, I like Cats, especially like these: http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=121734 Warning: All cats in this photo has been manipulated in a computer... :-) DagT Fra: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll agree with your consensus rules, graywolf, except the one about cat pictures. Let's have not more pictures of cats, only nice dog pictures!!! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.720 / Virus Database: 476 - Release Date: 7/20/2004
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Like I've always said, cats are BAD. Dogs are good! Peter J. Alling wrote: In my experience cats don't actually eat bugs, just play with them and leave parts all over the floor. I think that would be bad in the computer.
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Humm? Seems pretty clear to me. re (rê) preposition In reference to; in the case of; concerning. [Latin rê, ablative of rês, thing.] The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from INSO Corporation; further reproduction and distribution restricted in accordance with the Copyright Law of the United States. All rights reserved. -- Keith Whaley wrote: Stan Halpin wrote: Bob, On this side of the pond, using what is oxymoronically known as American English, there is a businesspersons' phrase which is used as follows: Dear Mr. Jones: In re: your letter of the 5th,... with the apparent presumption being that 're' is short for 'reference'. I have never seen/heard 'in re to...' which you might expect if 're' were taken to be short for 'reply'. Could it be that 're:' is in fact proper usage, that it is a shorthand reference to 'reference'? Stan Hi Stan, Re is a preposition, just as to, from and with are. Which is to say, it's a stand-alone word, not an abbreviation. It means concerning, in reference to or in the case of. It comes from (is an ablative of) the Latin word res which means thing. With regard to usage, would you put a colon after concerning? I wouldn't, but that does seem to be how common usage has presented it... Since it is a preposition, I'd use it bare, as it was originally intended: Re your letter of the 5th... No colon. FWIW... keith whaley On Jul 21, 2004, at 2:10 AM, Bob W wrote: Hi, Nice post Lasse. AW means AntWort in German, same as RE: . schoolmasterish pendantry well, not quite. 're' is Latin for 'about' and is a complete word in its own right. It is not short for 'reply', as some people think. Placing 're' in the subject line for replies is an unfortunate grammatical error that has been cast in digital concrete. /schoolmasterish pedantry -- Cheers, Bob -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
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My cats do. They particularly enjoy a nice, crunchy grass spider. Now if I could just teach them to hunt the d$#@ tarantulas ... - Original Message - From: Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:09 AM Subject: Re: PDML Mini FAQ (was Re-- Comment and Question (WAS: RE-- Apology for) In my experience cats don't actually eat bugs, just play with them and leave parts all over the floor. I think that would be bad in the computer. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To eat the bugs, of course... DagT Fra: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] why would you put a cat in your computer? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:32 AM Subject: Re: PDML Mini FAQ (was Re-- Comment and Question (WAS: RE-- Apology for) No, I like Cats, especially like these: http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=121734 Warning: All cats in this photo has been manipulated in a computer... :-) DagT Fra: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll agree with your consensus rules, graywolf, except the one about cat pictures. Let's have not more pictures of cats, only nice dog pictures!!! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.720 / Virus Database: 476 - Release Date: 7/20/2004
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On 20/7/04, Doug Franklin, discombobulated, offered: If I run across a good deal on eBay that I can't use, I'll share it with the group because I know someone out there can use it. Please don't. The list has discussed this at least annually since I came on board in 1998. Each time the majority opinion or consensus was not to post ebay auctions unless they're your own auction or they're closed auctions. Please be considerate of the rest of the folks on the list. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ Here here! This coming from someone who used to hold the opposite view. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
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On 20/7/04, Don Sanderson, discombobulated, offered: Now the question: Nowhere can I find any guidelines covering this (eBay Listings), or for FS items, or what's allowed for OT subjects, or for that matter what AW stands for! Yeah, like Doug, get with it man :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
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Bob, I meant the same figuratively not literally. Norm Bob W wrote: Hi, Nice post Lasse. AW means AntWort in German, same as RE: . schoolmasterish pendantry well, not quite. 're' is Latin for 'about' and is a complete word in its own right. It is not short for 'reply', as some people think. Placing 're' in the subject line for replies is an unfortunate grammatical error that has been cast in digital concrete. /schoolmasterish pedantry
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I'll agree with your consensus rules, graywolf, except the one about cat pictures. Let's have not more pictures of cats, only nice dog pictures!!! graywolf wrote: Not rules, Don, just general consensus. For Sale (and Want To Buy): Pentax stuff anytime. Although many only want to have to look on Fridays, and prefer For Sale Fridays. Most of us would prefer that you limit any non-Pentax stuff to Fridays as well. Ebay: It is all right to mention things YOU have up for sale. Do not mention other stuff until it is over. An exception is obviously funny and BS stuff like the 11 million dollar Canon 1Ds digitals, or non-photographic stuff like the wedding dress that was the basis of a long thread here a while back/ Politics/Religion: Since some of us, me up toward the top of the list, can not seem to remain civil in these kinds of discussions we very much prefer not to have threads about them on the list. This is violated often, until someone goes off the deep end and then most of us shut up. Guns/Cat Photos: A former popular list participant swore he would leave the list if anyone mentioned them. He left anyway which shows that you might as will ignore such stuff. However, many consider Guns/Abortion/Etc as part of Politics and Religion, so generally they should be avoided. Although Cat Photos are now seemingly OK again. Flames/Trolls: People who can not keep from continually attacking others, or who insist on trying to incite folks to anger should be totally ignored, these are the only folks I filter out of my mail stream, and I would suggest everyone else do the same. For they will, if they have their way, destroy the nicest mailing list on the Internet. Note: losing your cool now and then is not the same thing at all, or I would have to killfile my own posts (embarrassed grin). PAW-- Photo A Week (also PESO-- Photo Every So Often), a thing introduced to the list a while back by Shel Belinkof where you can put up a photo you want commented on and folks will tell you how you should have done it (grin). WOW-- Work Over a Week, similar to the above where you post a photo somewhere that folks can download it, and they run it through Photo Shop or whatever to show you how they would have done it. Seems like a good learning tool, but I have not seen any lately. Those are the only ones I can think of that have mass general agreement, though common courtesy is always appreciated here. Some folks do not like the off topic stuff, but we who engage in it are usually the old timers here, and are not going to pay much attention to them (grin). 99.9% of the people on this list are great wonderful terrific (add 16 more superlatives of your choice here) people who anyone would be glad to have as friends. I especially know this because many have gone out of their way to help me from time to time. We talk about doing this about twice a year, but it never seems to go very far. So, if anyone has additions, changes, or corrections let me know and I will edit this and put it up somewhere it can be accessed at anytime.
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Hey now. How would you like to have to work with this model? The cat's a lot easier! http://www.donsauction.com/PDML/Beau_CroppedS.jpg Don -Original message- From: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:21:21 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PDML Mini FAQ (was Re-- Comment and Question (WAS: RE-- Apology for) I'll agree with your consensus rules, graywolf, except the one about cat pictures. Let's have not more pictures of cats, only nice dog pictures!!!
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No, I like Cats, especially like these: http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=121734 Warning: All cats in this photo has been manipulated in a computer... :-) DagT Fra: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll agree with your consensus rules, graywolf, except the one about cat pictures. Let's have not more pictures of cats, only nice dog pictures!!!
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, William Robb wrote: Tell you what John, why don't you just tell us your eBay ID, and then we can watch for items that you are bidding on and broadcast that information to the list. Easy on John please William, he was the one who apologised. It's someone else who claims he will keep going. Kostas
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- Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Subject: Re: Apology for On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, William Robb wrote: Tell you what John, why don't you just tell us your eBay ID, and then we can watch for items that you are bidding on and broadcast that information to the list. Easy on John please William, he was the one who apologised. It's someone else who claims he will keep going. Sorry John. William Robb
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OK, how about no photos of pets, kids, flowers, or sunsets. Adelheid needed a vacation anyway. No-- just joking, I am not going to put that in the FAQ. Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I'll agree with your consensus rules, graywolf, except the one about cat pictures. Let's have not more pictures of cats, only nice dog pictures!!! graywolf wrote: Not rules, Don, just general consensus. For Sale (and Want To Buy): Pentax stuff anytime. Although many only want to have to look on Fridays, and prefer For Sale Fridays. Most of us would prefer that you limit any non-Pentax stuff to Fridays as well. Ebay: It is all right to mention things YOU have up for sale. Do not mention other stuff until it is over. An exception is obviously funny and BS stuff like the 11 million dollar Canon 1Ds digitals, or non-photographic stuff like the wedding dress that was the basis of a long thread here a while back/ Politics/Religion: Since some of us, me up toward the top of the list, can not seem to remain civil in these kinds of discussions we very much prefer not to have threads about them on the list. This is violated often, until someone goes off the deep end and then most of us shut up. Guns/Cat Photos: A former popular list participant swore he would leave the list if anyone mentioned them. He left anyway which shows that you might as will ignore such stuff. However, many consider Guns/Abortion/Etc as part of Politics and Religion, so generally they should be avoided. Although Cat Photos are now seemingly OK again. Flames/Trolls: People who can not keep from continually attacking others, or who insist on trying to incite folks to anger should be totally ignored, these are the only folks I filter out of my mail stream, and I would suggest everyone else do the same. For they will, if they have their way, destroy the nicest mailing list on the Internet. Note: losing your cool now and then is not the same thing at all, or I would have to killfile my own posts (embarrassed grin). PAW-- Photo A Week (also PESO-- Photo Every So Often), a thing introduced to the list a while back by Shel Belinkof where you can put up a photo you want commented on and folks will tell you how you should have done it (grin). WOW-- Work Over a Week, similar to the above where you post a photo somewhere that folks can download it, and they run it through Photo Shop or whatever to show you how they would have done it. Seems like a good learning tool, but I have not seen any lately. Those are the only ones I can think of that have mass general agreement, though common courtesy is always appreciated here. Some folks do not like the off topic stuff, but we who engage in it are usually the old timers here, and are not going to pay much attention to them (grin). 99.9% of the people on this list are great wonderful terrific (add 16 more superlatives of your choice here) people who anyone would be glad to have as friends. I especially know this because many have gone out of their way to help me from time to time. We talk about doing this about twice a year, but it never seems to go very far. So, if anyone has additions, changes, or corrections let me know and I will edit this and put it up somewhere it can be accessed at anytime. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
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Well, you could do a British tranlation. -- Chris Stoddart wrote: Don Sanderson wrote: One note the FAQ might have is: Remember that the people here are from all over the world. Customs, languages, beliefs, religions, values and most of all their SENSE OF HUMOR may vary! And some of us might spell it 'HUMOUR' :-) Chris (sorry, couldn't resist). -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
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Now that is a tale (err... tail). [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I like Cats, especially like these: http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=121734 Warning: All cats in this photo has been manipulated in a computer... :-) DagT Fra: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll agree with your consensus rules, graywolf, except the one about cat pictures. Let's have not more pictures of cats, only nice dog pictures!!! -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
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Like I said I apologise for the mistake, just trying to help one particular person. John John Whittingham Technician -- Original Message --- From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:11:49 -0600 Subject: Re: Apology for - Original Message - From: John Whittingham Subject: Re: Apology for No, share the ones that you *want* to bid on, it's much more fun. You're being cheeky now. No, just being fair. So you find something that you don't want (you may alreayd have a couple), that isn't listed correctly, and hence isn't getting much visibility. Someone else onlist has made the same discovery, and hopes to maybe find a deal. Then, some asshole broadcasts that it is there, and all of a sudden you have a few dozen interested parties trying to outbid each other. So much for the potential deal, especially if the item is fairly desirable. Tell you what John, why don't you just tell us your eBay ID, and then we can watch for items that you are bidding on and broadcast that information to the list. You might not get any more deals out of eBay, but that is the game you are playing with other people when you put links to eBay auctions on list. William Robb --- End of Original Message ---
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or Aussie! And don't forget how to spell COLOUR either, ok?!? hehe. t. -Original Message- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 22 July 2004 1:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PDML Mini FAQ (was Re-- Comment and Question (WAS: RE-- Apology for) Well, you could do a British tranlation. -- Chris Stoddart wrote: Don Sanderson wrote: One note the FAQ might have is: Remember that the people here are from all over the world. Customs, languages, beliefs, religions, values and most of all their SENSE OF HUMOR may vary! And some of us might spell it 'HUMOUR' :-) Chris (sorry, couldn't resist). -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
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On 21/7/04, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, offered: I'll agree with your consensus rules, graywolf, except the one about cat pictures. Let's have not more pictures of cats, only nice dog pictures!!! This is a dog: http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/nature/images/pic11.html Really. She barks and rolls over on her back and everything. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
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Unacceptable! Cotty wrote: On 21/7/04, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, offered: I'll agree with your consensus rules, graywolf, except the one about cat pictures. Let's have not more pictures of cats, only nice dog pictures!!! This is a dog: http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/nature/images/pic11.html Really. She barks and rolls over on her back and everything.
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This is a dog: http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/nature/images/pic11.html Really. She barks and rolls over on her back and everything. On 21/7/04, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, offered: Unacceptable! You see an unacceptable cat, I see a dog ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
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why would you put a cat in your computer? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 9:32 AM Subject: Re: PDML Mini FAQ (was Re-- Comment and Question (WAS: RE-- Apology for) No, I like Cats, especially like these: http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=121734 Warning: All cats in this photo has been manipulated in a computer... :-) DagT Fra: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll agree with your consensus rules, graywolf, except the one about cat pictures. Let's have not more pictures of cats, only nice dog pictures!!! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.720 / Virus Database: 476 - Release Date: 7/20/2004
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Bob, On this side of the pond, using what is oxymoronically known as American English, there is a businesspersons' phrase which is used as follows: Dear Mr. Jones: In re: your letter of the 5th,... with the apparent presumption being that 're' is short for 'reference'. I have never seen/heard 'in re to...' which you might expect if 're' were taken to be short for 'reply'. Could it be that 're:' is in fact proper usage, that it is a shorthand reference to 'reference'? Stan On Jul 21, 2004, at 2:10 AM, Bob W wrote: Hi, Nice post Lasse. AW means AntWort in German, same as RE: . schoolmasterish pendantry well, not quite. 're' is Latin for 'about' and is a complete word in its own right. It is not short for 'reply', as some people think. Placing 're' in the subject line for replies is an unfortunate grammatical error that has been cast in digital concrete. /schoolmasterish pedantry -- Cheers, Bob
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And eBay itself isn't a worldwide list with a searchable interface? Nice try, Kostas. On 7/20/04 2:45, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: That's quite different to publicising in a worldwide list with a searchable interface.
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Tim Sherburne wrote: And eBay itself isn't a worldwide list with a searchable interface? Nice try, Kostas. No, it's only a searchable site. From which you missed the lens you wanted, as you admit, because it has a lot of noise and quirks. Kostas
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Kostas... The long and short of it is that I think it's okay for people to post eBay listings. I don't want to put words in John's mouth, but I'm guessing that he wanted to simply let others on the list know of an opportunity, which seems neighborly to me. If I run across a good deal on eBay that I can't use, I'll share it with the group because I know someone out there can use it. That's my last word. If you don't like it, put me in your killfile. I've got better things to do. t
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How about sharing the ones you are planing to bid on? Oh That is a different story, is it? -- Tim Sherburne wrote: Kostas... The long and short of it is that I think it's okay for people to post eBay listings. I don't want to put words in John's mouth, but I'm guessing that he wanted to simply let others on the list know of an opportunity, which seems neighborly to me. If I run across a good deal on eBay that I can't use, I'll share it with the group because I know someone out there can use it. That's my last word. If you don't like it, put me in your killfile. I've got better things to do. t -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
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On 20/7/04, graywolf, discombobulated, offered: How about sharing the ones you are planing to bid on? Oh That is a different story, is it? HAR! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
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On 19 Jul 2004 at 15:45, Tim Sherburne wrote: Those of you who feel differently about John's posting need to wake up: The days of cheap, undiscovered eBay listings on good stuff is ancient history. I'm sure no one would get upset if the information was shared post auction. You do have to consider that there are far more lurkers here than participants so theoretically any particularly attractive auction could be introduced to another 900+ potential bidders. If only one of these potentials bid then it could mean you or whoever wishes to bid misses out. If you are the one who misses out you might think the advice to refrain from posting live auctions is reasonable? I watch a lot of auctions, what are you after in particular, I'll let you know on-list when one pops up if you wish? Sorry to be so sarcastic in my delivery but surely you can see both sides of the story, the question is which is most appealing to you and how many listers do you want to get off side? Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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On 19 Jul 2004 at 15:45, Tim Sherburne wrote: Those of you who feel differently about John's posting need to wake up: The days of cheap, undiscovered eBay listings on good stuff is ancient history. I'm not so sure I agree with that, after thinking about this post for a while I started thinking about a Pentax K 28mm F3.5 for $22.50 'cause it was mis-listed as an SLR, a like new *ist body for $105.00 in the wrong catagory and several pieces found by creatively trying lots of different mis-spellings (or alternate spellings such as ZX5N instead of with the hyphen) for items. I think deals can still be unearthed by those who spend A LOT of time looking. I know I'd be miffed if one of those hard found listings showed up here for someone to grab out from under me without having worked for it. (Just my HO) Now the question: Nowhere can I find any guidelines covering this (eBay Listings), or for FS items, or what's allowed for OT subjects, or for that matter what AW stands for! I am a newcomer to this list, but from experience I KNOW there are rules, and do my best to figure 'em out. But I am not going to lurk for 5 years just to do so, I'd rather be hollered at than not participate. SO hows about a little FAQ with dos and don'ts and definitions so us newbies don't have to rub quite so much fur the wrong way? There used to be one when the list was at Pentax but it didn't cover some of the above topics, and now it appears to be gone altogether. I am more than willing to follow the rules, IF I know what they are! (Kinda reminds me of my boss, I know you don't know how to do this, but do it anyway. And do it RIGHT!) Don (Needing Enlightenment):-/
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 09:43:51 -0700, Tim Sherburne wrote: If I run across a good deal on eBay that I can't use, I'll share it with the group because I know someone out there can use it. Please don't. The list has discussed this at least annually since I came on board in 1998. Each time the majority opinion or consensus was not to post ebay auctions unless they're your own auction or they're closed auctions. Please be considerate of the rest of the folks on the list. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
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Not rules, Don, just general consensus. For Sale (and Want To Buy): Pentax stuff anytime. Although many only want to have to look on Fridays, and prefer For Sale Fridays. Most of us would prefer that you limit any non-Pentax stuff to Fridays as well. Ebay: It is all right to mention things YOU have up for sale. Do not mention other stuff until it is over. An exception is obviously funny and BS stuff like the 11 million dollar Canon 1Ds digitals, or non-photographic stuff like the wedding dress that was the basis of a long thread here a while back/ Politics/Religion: Since some of us, me up toward the top of the list, can not seem to remain civil in these kinds of discussions we very much prefer not to have threads about them on the list. This is violated often, until someone goes off the deep end and then most of us shut up. Guns/Cat Photos: A former popular list participant swore he would leave the list if anyone mentioned them. He left anyway which shows that you might as will ignore such stuff. However, many consider Guns/Abortion/Etc as part of Politics and Religion, so generally they should be avoided. Although Cat Photos are now seemingly OK again. Flames/Trolls: People who can not keep from continually attacking others, or who insist on trying to incite folks to anger should be totally ignored, these are the only folks I filter out of my mail stream, and I would suggest everyone else do the same. For they will, if they have their way, destroy the nicest mailing list on the Internet. Note: losing your cool now and then is not the same thing at all, or I would have to killfile my own posts (embarrassed grin). PAW-- Photo A Week (also PESO-- Photo Every So Often), a thing introduced to the list a while back by Shel Belinkof where you can put up a photo you want commented on and folks will tell you how you should have done it (grin). WOW-- Work Over a Week, similar to the above where you post a photo somewhere that folks can download it, and they run it through Photo Shop or whatever to show you how they would have done it. Seems like a good learning tool, but I have not seen any lately. Those are the only ones I can think of that have mass general agreement, though common courtesy is always appreciated here. Some folks do not like the off topic stuff, but we who engage in it are usually the old timers here, and are not going to pay much attention to them (grin). 99.9% of the people on this list are great wonderful terrific (add 16 more superlatives of your choice here) people who anyone would be glad to have as friends. I especially know this because many have gone out of their way to help me from time to time. We talk about doing this about twice a year, but it never seems to go very far. So, if anyone has additions, changes, or corrections let me know and I will edit this and put it up somewhere it can be accessed at anytime. -- Don Sanderson wrote: SO hows about a little FAQ with dos and don'ts and definitions so us newbies don't have to rub quite so much fur the wrong way? There used to be one when the list was at Pentax but it didn't cover some of the above topics, and now it appears to be gone altogether. I am more than willing to follow the rules, IF I know what they are! (Kinda reminds me of my boss, I know you don't know how to do this, but do it anyway. And do it RIGHT!) Don (Needing Enlightenment):-/ -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
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- Original Message - From: Don Sanderson Subject: Comment and Question (WAS: RE: Apology for) SO hows about a little FAQ with dos and don'ts and definitions so us newbies don't have to rub quite so much fur the wrong way? Rules are for wimps. I figure if something I post rubs someone the wrong way, I'll get told, and I won't do it again. Don't argue with Blakely. William Robb
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--- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not rules, Don, just general consensus. snip, snip, snip So, if anyone has additions, changes, or corrections let me know and I will edit this and put it up somewhere it can be accessed at anytime. Don't believe anything frank says. -frank = The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
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--- graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not rules, Don, just general consensus. snip Ebay: It is all right to mention things YOU have up for sale. Do not mention other stuff until it is over. An exception is obviously funny and BS stuff like the 11 million dollar Canon 1Ds digitals, or non-photographic stuff like the wedding dress that was the basis of a long thread here a while back/ snip So, if anyone has additions, changes, or corrections let me know and I will edit this and put it up somewhere it can be accessed at anytime. Well, seriously, Tom, that's a pretty good, relatively comprehensive (without being heavyhanded or overly longish) PDMLFAQ you've got there. You were right in your intro: it's all common sense, really, isn't it? My only addendum (other that the don't believe frank thing) is that I always thought that the prohibition re: ongoing eBay auctions was for Pentax stuff, not other photographic stuff. Except, as you said, joke or novelty things, like that giant Pentax body and the clear Pentax body (both promotional items). Mind you, every time the eBay thing comes up, it turns into a fairly contentious thing, so maybe I should just leave well enough alone... vbg cheers, frank = The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
