Is there an analog only Pentax list?
Just joined the list, so I apologize if this has been asked a million times. Is there some kind of Pentax discussion list that is just for analog and preferably the older, all manual cameras? Thanks. Rob
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Yes, there is, that is this list (also). On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 19:37, Pentax wrote: > Just joined the list, so I apologize if this has been asked a million times. > > Is there some kind of Pentax discussion list that is just for analog > and preferably the older, all manual cameras? > > Thanks. > > Rob -- Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Welcome to that list! The PDML goes both ways, so to speak... There's just been some news for owners of the ist-D digital SLR so the traffic on the list is leaning towards the digital side today. Christian - Original Message - From: "Pentax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 1:37 PM Subject: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > Just joined the list, so I apologize if this has been asked a million times. > > Is there some kind of Pentax discussion list that is just for analog > and preferably the older, all manual cameras? > > Thanks. > > Rob >
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No. Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 From: Pentax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:37:32 -0500 Just joined the list, so I apologize if this has been asked a million times. Is there some kind of Pentax discussion list that is just for analog and preferably the older, all manual cameras? Thanks. Rob _ Have fun customizing MSN Messenger learn how here! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize
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> Is there some kind of Pentax discussion list that is just for analog > and preferably the older, all manual cameras? > > Thanks. > > Rob Hey Rob, don't I know you from some place? ;) Amita
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> > Is there some kind of Pentax discussion list that is > just for analog > and preferably the older, all manual cameras? > > Thanks. > > Rob > >..list is leaning towards the digital side today... > >Christian Just today, huh? Not, say, since the moment the *ist-d was released...or perhaps announced? Chaso __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus
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Check the archives. There has been plenty of film talk since September. Christian - Original Message - From: "Chaso DeChaso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >..list is leaning towards the digital side today... > > > >Christian > > > Just today, huh? Not, say, since the moment the > *ist-d was released...or perhaps announced? > > Chaso
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There's also a YahooGroups Spotmatic list. Again, not quite so active as this one. So, Rob, what older Pentax gear are do you have/are you interested in talking about? I've got Spotmatics, an LX and an MX. There are many here with those cameras, and many other beloved older Pentaxes. As someone already mentioned, today's a high traffic digi-day, with the release of some new firmwear (whatever the hell that is) only a few hours old. They'll calm down, and you'll see a bit of film talk again. cheers, frank -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Robert Chiasson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:47:37 -0400 Yes - there's a K1000 list at Yahoo (among others). But it doesn't seem nearly as active as this one. - Original Message - From: "Leonard Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 3:19 PM Subject: RE: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > No. > > Len > --- > * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 > > >From: Pentax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > >Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:37:32 -0500 > > > >Just joined the list, so I apologize if this has been asked a million > >times. > > > >Is there some kind of Pentax discussion list that is just for analog and > >preferably the older, all manual cameras? > > > >Thanks. > > > >Rob > > _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
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frank theriault wrote: As someone already mentioned, today's a high traffic digi-day, with the release of some new firmwear (whatever the hell that is) only a few hours old. I guess heavily-starched shirts would count as firm-wear... or motorcycle armour? Hmm, I'll stop there, I think ;-) S
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At 5:30 PM -0500 1/9/04, frank theriault wrote: There's also a YahooGroups Spotmatic list. Again, not quite so active as this one. So, Rob, what older Pentax gear are do you have/are you interested in talking about? I've got an MX. Mostly I'm interested in just seeing what people have to say about lenses. I've found some lens review sites around on the web and many of them are compilations of comments from this list so I figured I'd go right to the source and see what was going on. Just started shooting with the MX again after a year of shooting exclusively with a Rolleicord V and wanted to get a coupla lenses to compliment the 50/1.4. Probably something shorter and something longer with the same build quality and a similiar look and feel to photos (good bokeh, mostly shooting at or near wide open). Something that goes well with Tri-X for handheld, available light, street and travel photography. Maybe the 24/2.8 and one of the 85's or 100's. Three seems like the perfect number. Can bring them all without much overlap. Though the K 35/2 is also appealing... Maybe add an LX sometime in the distant future. Rob
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I'm guessing that the average age of listmembers is about 45. Some of us digibrats are on the high side of the average. :-) Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Sorry, you're just going to have the put up with the digibrats. Regards, Bob... _ Tired of slow downloads? Compare online deals from your local high-speed providers now. https://broadband.msn.com
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Hi, Rob, Have you been here? http://stans-photography.info/ Our very own Stan Halpin's site. It's likely the best on the 'net for Pentax bayonet mount lenses. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Pentax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:02:08 -0500 At 5:30 PM -0500 1/9/04, frank theriault wrote: There's also a YahooGroups Spotmatic list. Again, not quite so active as this one. So, Rob, what older Pentax gear are do you have/are you interested in talking about? I've got an MX. Mostly I'm interested in just seeing what people have to say about lenses. I've found some lens review sites around on the web and many of them are compilations of comments from this list so I figured I'd go right to the source and see what was going on. Just started shooting with the MX again after a year of shooting exclusively with a Rolleicord V and wanted to get a coupla lenses to compliment the 50/1.4. Probably something shorter and something longer with the same build quality and a similiar look and feel to photos (good bokeh, mostly shooting at or near wide open). Something that goes well with Tri-X for handheld, available light, street and travel photography. Maybe the 24/2.8 and one of the 85's or 100's. Three seems like the perfect number. Can bring them all without much overlap. Though the K 35/2 is also appealing... Maybe add an LX sometime in the distant future. Rob _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
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Firmware is software on Viagra ... frank theriault wrote: > [...] > already mentioned, today's a high traffic digi-day, with the release of some > new firmwear (whatever the hell that is) only a few hours old.
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I'd venture to say that most lists tend to discuss the new stuff. This list has a much higher discussion of old equipment than most other lists have. Of course, the solution is to ask the questions and get the answers. Nobody should just hang around lurking and waiting for someone else to ask their question for them. Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 From: Chaso DeChaso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 14:20:36 -0800 (PST) > > Is there some kind of Pentax discussion list that is > just for analog > and preferably the older, all manual cameras? > > Thanks. > > Rob > >..list is leaning towards the digital side today... > >Christian Just today, huh? Not, say, since the moment the *ist-d was released...or perhaps announced? Chaso __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus _ Take advantage of our limited-time introductory offer for dial-up Internet access. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup
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Rob, Try: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (all Spotmatic bodies, lenses and such.) Also: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (all K-mount lenses and bodies, no matter where made.) keith whaley Frits Wüthrich wrote: > > Yes, there is, that is this list (also). > > On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 19:37, Pentax wrote: > > Just joined the list, so I apologize if this has been asked a million times. > > > > Is there some kind of Pentax discussion list that is just for analog > > and preferably the older, all manual cameras? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Rob > -- > Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On 9/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >oday's a high traffic digi-day, with the release of some >new firmwear (whatever the hell that is) Firmware is part of the software running the electronics of the camera. Firmwear is what Frank has on under his trousers during a particularly arduous ride over those Torontonian pot-holes. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
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If I'd have really cared to know, I'd have found out. But thanks for the, er, colourful simile, Shel. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 15:21:50 -0800 Firmware is software on Viagra ... frank theriault wrote: > [...] > already mentioned, today's a high traffic digi-day, with the release of some > new firmwear (whatever the hell that is) only a few hours old. _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
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On Jan 9, 2004, at 7:36 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I'm not crazy about the K35/2.0 ... oh, it's a fine optic when stopped down a bit, and i even like it wide open, but it's a little large for my taste. Hi Shel, I agree with your assessment of the K35/2.0. On the other hand, the M35/2.0 is a very nice lens and is quite compact. It's one of my most frequently used lenses.
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There are a number of highly regarded lenses out there at reasonable prices, especially if you don't need fast glass. I have a kit of a K 28/3.5, K 35/3.5 (almost flare proof), M 50/1.4, M 100/4.0 macro, M 135/3.5, M 200/4.0, and an FA 300/4.5 (another legendary lens, very sharp). Bodies are a K 1000 and a Z-1p. Everything listed cost me less then $1000, actually between $800-$900 IIRC. KEH has a very good reputation on the list as does B&H. Butch Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hesse (Demian)
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At 4:36 PM -0800 1/9/04, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Which 50/1.4 do you have? The M. Just developed some pictures taken with it and am very pleased. I'm not crazy about the K35/2.0 ... oh, it's a fine optic when stopped down a bit, and i even like it wide open, but it's a little large for my taste. Much prefer the smaller size of the K35/3.5. If you can find one, the K30/2.8 is a great compromise between size and weight and aperture, and, IMO, a better lens all around than the K35/2.0 ... since I've gotten the 30mm I rarely use the 28 or either of the 35's. I had read somewhere that the K 35/2 was one of the best of the 35's and that the M wasn't as good. I've never seen one so I don't know the size/weight difference. Not sure if I'd like the 30/2.8 as I don't really like 28's and I'd like something faster and less rare. The K24/2.8 is another fine lens, although methinks it's a bit wide for good "street photography," but I guess that depends on your definition of the practice and your shooting style. I had a 28mm 3.5 and just didn't really like it very much. Not the lens quality so much as the perspective, sorta too wide or not wide enough. Total personal preference. So I thought the 24 might be more fun. I was just flipping through some photos I'd cut from the paper, sort of documentary style stuff and many of them were pretty wide angle. Also might be nice for indoor stuff like churches etc while traveling. I'm going to keep my eye out for the 85 1.8. Thanks for all the info. Rob
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Jim Apilado: What is "127.0.0.1?" "localhost", i.e. the IP number of your own computer at any time. Also called the "loopback interface". anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/
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The I.P. address of my, your, everybody's console, i.e., "home". Len * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 > -Original Message- > From: Jim Apilado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 12:17 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > > > What is "127.0.0.1?" > > Jim A.
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I've been off the list for a while because I became tired of the digital exchanges. Now I see that at least one other person is more interested in film cameras than the Pentax *ist D. If all posts had something in the subject line to identify them it would be easy to make rules for sorting things out. Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See New Pages 'The Cement Company from HELL!' Updated: August 15, 2003 "Oh my God! They've killed Teddy!" - Original Message - From: "Len Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 2:00 PM Subject: RE: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > The I.P. address of my, your, everybody's console, i.e., "home". > > Len > * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jim Apilado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 12:17 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > > > > > > What is "127.0.0.1?" > > > > Jim A. > >
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Jeez, Doc, if you can get everyone to do that, we'd have a first! At least for the PDML. Don't tell 'em what to do! Just lead by example... At least until you find that doesn't work, either. Len * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 > If all posts had something in the > subject line to identify them it would be easy to make rules > for sorting > things out. > > Don > ___ > Dr E D F Williams
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The MX with the 40mm f2.8 pancake lens makes a great rugged carry anywhere kit, especially when combined with the dedicated ERC which adds hardly any bulk. Nick.
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I agree. You might consider prefacing the subject line of anything that is film-only with "FILM:" Then you can filter out anything else. > -Original Message- > From: Dr E D F Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 10-Jan-04 04:09 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > > > I've been off the list for a while because I became tired of the digital > exchanges. Now I see that at least one other person is more interested in > film cameras than the Pentax *ist D. If all posts had something in the > subject line to identify them it would be easy to make rules for sorting > things out. > > Don > ___ > Dr E D F Williams > http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams > Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery > See New Pages 'The Cement Company from HELL!' > Updated: August 15, 2003 > > "Oh my God! They've killed Teddy!" > > - Original Message - > From: "Len Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 2:00 PM > Subject: RE: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > > > > The I.P. address of my, your, everybody's console, i.e., "home". > > > > Len > > * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Jim Apilado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 12:17 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > > > > > > > > > What is "127.0.0.1?" > > > > > > Jim A. > > > > >
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We could actually do this if it would make things easier for people. Start a post with d: for digital (including photoshop) f: for film (including processing) g: or nothing for general photo stuff like composition o: for off topic for example d: WOOHOO! when you get your new *ist D f: WOOHOO! when you find that LX for $50.00 at a yard sale g: WOOHOO! or simply WOOHOO! when you finally get paid for that last Wedding shoot o: WOOHOO! if you have found that perfect beef stew recipe. Just a thought . . . Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/10/04 11:20AM >>> I agree. You might consider prefacing the subject line of anything that is film-only with "FILM:" Then you can filter out anything else. > -Original Message- > From: Dr E D F Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 10-Jan-04 04:09 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > > > I've been off the list for a while because I became tired of the digital > exchanges. Now I see that at least one other person is more interested in > film cameras than the Pentax *ist D. If all posts had something in the > subject line to identify them it would be easy to make rules for sorting > things out. > > Don > ___ > Dr E D F Williams > http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams > Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery > See New Pages 'The Cement Company from HELL!' > Updated: August 15, 2003 > > "Oh my God! They've killed Teddy!" > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Len Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 2:00 PM > Subject: RE: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > > > > The I.P. address of my, your, everybody's console, i.e., "home". > > > > Len > > * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Jim Apilado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 12:17 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > > > > > > > > > What is "127.0.0.1?" > > > > > > Jim A. > > > > >
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Just think what a nice package the 40mm pancake lens and the tiny *istD would make. On Jan 10, 2004, at 11:16 AM, Nick Clark wrote: The MX with the 40mm f2.8 pancake lens makes a great rugged carry anywhere kit, especially when combined with the dedicated ERC which adds hardly any bulk. Nick.
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Nick Clark wrote: > The MX with the 40mm f2.8 pancake lens makes a great rugged > carry anywhere kit There are a few here that carry this combination; mine lives in a coat pocket. Malcolm
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You forgot bs: for general whining about Pentax... :-) Jostein - Pictures at: http://oksne.net - - Original Message - From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 5:53 PM Subject: RE: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > We could actually do this if it would make things easier for people. > Start a post with > > d: for digital (including photoshop) > f: for film (including processing) > g: or nothing for general photo stuff like composition > o: for off topic > > for example > > d: WOOHOO! when you get your new *ist D > f: WOOHOO! when you find that LX for $50.00 at a yard > sale > g: WOOHOO! or simply WOOHOO! when you finally get paid for that last > Wedding shoot > o: WOOHOO! if you have found that perfect beef stew recipe. > > Just a thought . . . > > > Steven Desjardins > Department of Chemistry > Washington and Lee University > Lexington, VA 24450 > (540) 458-8873 > FAX: (540) 458-8878 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/10/04 11:20AM >>> > I agree. You might consider prefacing the subject line of anything > that is > film-only with "FILM:" Then you can filter out anything else. > > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Dr E D F Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 10-Jan-04 04:09 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > > > > > > I've been off the list for a while because I became tired of the > digital > > exchanges. Now I see that at least one other person is more > interested in > > film cameras than the Pentax *ist D. If all posts had something in > the > > subject line to identify them it would be easy to make rules for > sorting > > things out. > > > > Don > > ___ > > Dr E D F Williams > > http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams > > Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery > > See New Pages 'The Cement Company from HELL!' > > Updated: August 15, 2003 > > > > "Oh my God! They've killed Teddy!" > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Len Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 2:00 PM > > Subject: RE: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > > > > > > > The I.P. address of my, your, everybody's console, i.e., "home". > > > > > > Len > > > * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Jim Apilado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 12:17 AM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > > > > > > > > > > > > What is "127.0.0.1?" > > > > > > > > Jim A. > > > > > > > > > >
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At 5:08 PM + 1/10/04, Malcolm Smith wrote: Nick Clark wrote: The MX with the 40mm f2.8 pancake lens makes a great rugged carry anywhere kit There are a few here that carry this combination; mine lives in a coat pocket. I just picked up one of these (a week too early it seems as there are like 10 on Ebay right now). Haven't shot much with it yet so am withholding judgement. First impression is that it's damn small though a bit tough to focus the small focusing ring. Also looks significantly dimmer in the viewfinder than the 50 1.4 (only other lens I have for comparison). Gonna shoot some film with it and see how it looks. Rob
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Hi ... did you expect otherwise? After all, it's a 2.8 and the 50 is a 1.4 Pentax wrote: > Also looks significantly dimmer in the > viewfinder than the 50 1.4 (only other lens I have for comparison).
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Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Just think what a nice package the 40mm pancake lens and the tiny *istD >would make. the 43mm Limited isn't much larger! :) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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Unfortunately Pentax seem to have given up making close fitting ERCs. Too many
combinations now I suppose.
Nick.
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From: "Paul Stenquist"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 10/01/04 17:01:18
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Just think what a nice package the 40mm pancake lens and the tiny *istD
would make.
On Jan 10, 2004, at 11:16 AM, Nick Clark wrote:
> The MX with the 40mm f2.8 pancake lens makes a great rugged carry
> anywhere kit, especially when combined with the dedicated ERC which
> adds hardly any bulk.
>
> Nick.
>
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It is with its hood on. What's needed for it is a metal lens cap. It's my favourite lens for leaving on the MZ-S, once you get used to the silver on black combination. Nick -Original Message- From: "Mark Roberts"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 10/01/04 22:10:27 To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Just think what a nice package the 40mm pancake lens and the tiny *istD >would make. the 43mm Limited isn't much larger! :) -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
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What's an ERC? Nick Clark wrote: > Unfortunately Pentax seem to have given up making close fitting ERCs. Too many > combinations now I suppose. >
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Hi Shel, I`ve been racking my brain on that too. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > What's an ERC? > > Nick Clark wrote: > > > Unfortunately Pentax seem to have given up making close fitting ERCs. Too many combinations now I suppose. > > > >
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Sorry I thought it was standard TLA. It's Ever Ready Case. Used to come with all SLrs
but now seems an afterthought.
Nick
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What's an ERC?
Nick Clark wrote:
> Unfortunately Pentax seem to have given up making close fitting ERCs. Too many
combinations now I suppose.
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Right now, today, my *ist-D two lens solution would be 20/2.8 and 43/1.9. My three lens solution would be 20/2.8, 31/1.8, 77/1.8. but I feel uncomfortable about not having a 100mm macro with me, so three becomes four... My one-lens solution would be the 31/1.8. Or, if a zoom, the 20-35/4.0. Note that all of the above is very tentative and may change by tomorrow morning. Like Rob, I have not settled on the "kit" that I should carry for different circumstances. Stan Rob Studdert wrote: On 10 Jan 2004 at 3:02, Bob W wrote: I think the gap from 24mm to 50mm is too large. I think lenses work well in these combinations: For 2 cameras: 35mm and 85mm For 3 cameras: 28mm, 50mm and either 85mm or 135mm My preferences seem to change with systems also. When I had contax the CZ35/1.4 and 85/1.4 were a dream combo however I never really used that set of FL with my Pentax 35mm film gear. I most always used 20/2.8, 28/2 and 50/1.2 however after my purchase of the 31/1.8 LTD my line-up changed again. Since my purchase of the *ist D I've not settled on any particular combination of glass. I'm now feeling the least comfortable that I've ever felt regarding lens selection and this is after extensive testing . :-( Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
What's TLA? -frank, the internet illiterate "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Nick Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sorry I thought it was standard TLA. It's Ever Ready Case. Used to come with all SLrs but now seems an afterthought. Nick _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/features&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
I think that "modern" cameras wouldn't work well with "ERC's". Their bodies are have irregular shapes. Not like slab-sided Spotties and the like. Besides, with all the control surfaces sticking out from every surface of the bodies these days, designing a workable one that would not destroy the usability of those interfaces would be near impossible. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Nick Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:09:39 - Unfortunately Pentax seem to have given up making close fitting ERCs. Too many combinations now I suppose. > _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
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Hey, Tom, Steve forgot one: "G" for "Graywolf". You would have to put it in front of all of your posts, so we don't have to listen to your curmudgeonly ways if we don't want to. But, to be fair, if you agree with that, I'll agree with: "B" for "Bunny Ears". So the list won't have to put up with whatever it is I do that annoys everyone here. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:09:49 -0500 Rasberry time... Why should the poster have to do your work for you. We have never been able to get folks to change the subject line when they change the subject, and you expert them to do all that just so you don't have to figure out how to set up a proper filter? See my tag line. -- Steve Desjardins wrote: We could actually do this if it would make things easier for people. Start a post with d: for digital (including photoshop) f: for film (including processing) g: or nothing for general photo stuff like composition o: for off topic for example d: WOOHOO! when you get your new *ist D f: WOOHOO! when you find that LX for $50.00 at a yard sale g: WOOHOO! or simply WOOHOO! when you finally get paid for that last Wedding shoot o: WOOHOO! if you have found that perfect beef stew recipe. Just a thought . . . -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway." _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
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Frank, This morning I removed the ERC from my LX to see if it needed a CLA, but because it's had TLC only the VF was of concern. Still don't know what a TLA is ... Typical [...] Acronym? frank theriault wrote: > What's TLA? > > -frank, the internet illiterate > > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist > fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer > > >From: "Nick Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >Sorry I thought it was standard TLA. It's Ever Ready Case. Used to come > >with all SLrs but now seems an afterthought. > > > >Nick > > > > > > > _ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/features&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
Shel, IIRC, and AFAIK, a CLA for an LX is PIA. TTFN, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 07:49:47 -0800 Frank, This morning I removed the ERC from my LX to see if it needed a CLA, but because it's had TLC only the VF was of concern. Still don't know what a TLA is ... Typical [...] Acronym? frank theriault wrote: > What's TLA? > > -frank, the internet illiterate > > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist > fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer > > >From: "Nick Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >Sorry I thought it was standard TLA. It's Ever Ready Case. Used to come > >with all SLrs but now seems an afterthought. > > > >Nick > > > > > > > _ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/features&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photos&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
At 8:57 PM -0500 1/9/04, Paul Stenquist wrote: I agree with your assessment of the K35/2.0. On the other hand, the M35/2.0 is a very nice lens and is quite compact. It's one of my most frequently used lenses. Is the M35/2 a pretty fast focusing lens? Just wondering how it would be for a street lens where you want to focus quickly. Some lens seem to "snap" into focus more quickly than others. Although I'm sure it's pretty subjective. Thanks for the info. Rob
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Three Letter Acronym! Suggested google search: "internet acronym". Time to find: "less than to write post defining ignorance". Mode: "curmudgeonly". :) -- Shel Belinkoff wrote: Frank, This morning I removed the ERC from my LX to see if it needed a CLA, but because it's had TLC only the VF was of concern. Still don't know what a TLA is ... Typical [...] Acronym? frank theriault wrote: What's TLA? -frank, the internet illiterate "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Nick Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sorry I thought it was standard TLA. It's Ever Ready Case. Used to come with all SLrs but now seems an afterthought. Nick _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/features&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway."
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Yeah, I agree. I tried a M50 1.7 on the *istD (which acts like a 75) and it's a very small lens. That makes a very small "walk around" package without the grip. A slow "60" just isn't much use. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/10/04 09:07PM >>> On 10 Jan 2004 at 12:01, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Just think what a nice package the 40mm pancake lens and the tiny *istD > would make. I suspect it wouldn't be particularly enamouring from an optical perspective. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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Have the SFXn with ERC, and the back accomodates the data back on the camera. With the front cover removed, this setup makes a very comfortable handfull. - Original Message - From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > > Pentax still makes NRCs (Never Ready Cases) for the MZ-series, but I'm not > sure about the *ist. As Frank points out, I imagine leaving room to view > the screen and dials on the back could be tricky. The problem with NRCs > for most modern cameras isn't their unusual shapes, though... it's the > fact that today's plastic bodies need more padding than the older metal > bodies. It's tough plastic, but not that tough. > > chris > > > On Sun, 11 Jan 2004, frank theriault wrote: > > > I think that "modern" cameras wouldn't work well with "ERC's". Their bodies > > are have irregular shapes. Not like slab-sided Spotties and the like. > > Besides, with all the control surfaces sticking out from every surface of > > the bodies these days, designing a workable one that would not destroy the > > usability of those interfaces would be near impossible. > > > > cheers, > > frank > > > > "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist > > fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Nick Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > > >Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:09:39 - > > > > > >Unfortunately Pentax seem to have given up making close fitting ERCs. Too > > >many combinations now I suppose. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca > > > >
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Hi, > Is the M35/2 a pretty fast focusing lens? > Just wondering how it would be for a street lens where you want to > focus quickly. Some lens seem to "snap" into focus more quickly than > others. Although I'm sure it's pretty subjective. yes. It's a good lens for it. -- Cheers, Bob
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
Probably, although an ERC came with my first SLR, a Ricoh XR1, and as most people seemed to be using one on those days I assumed they came with all. They're great for when you want to go out with just the camera and one lens, and provide protection against the elements and knocks. I have one for the MX with two different front parts, one that snugly fits the 40mm pancake, and one that fits the 50mm f1.7 M or the 28mm f2.8 M. I also have one for the MZ-S with two front sections, one that 'fits' the 43mm f1.9 ltd or my 19mm f3.5 Vivitar, and one that 'fits' the 24-90mm or the 90mm Tamron macro. These don't fit anywhere near as well as the MX one though. Nick. -Original Message- From: "graywolf"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 11/01/04 17:43:26 To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Humm? Didn't come with my MX's that I bought new in '78 & '81. Didn't come with my H3 that I bought new in '61. Maybe you mean, "were available for"? -- >> From: "Nick Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Sorry I thought it was standard TLA. It's Ever Ready Case. Used to >> come with all SLrs but now seems an afterthought. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway."
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If you are looking for A1 prime lenses, suggest starting with 50mm f1:1.2 M or A. Price was always a deterent for me, bought an LX outfit on eBay, and was surprised to see the lens in the bag when the kit arrived(a bonus). It certainly is worth the price. - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:36 PM Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > I use an MX's and LX's, and a range of K-mount lenses from 18.mm to > 200mm. > Which 50/1.4 do you have? > > I'm not crazy about the K35/2.0 ... oh, it's a fine optic when stopped > down a bit, and i even like it wide open, but it's a little large for my > taste. Much prefer the smaller size of the K35/3.5. If you can find > one, the K30/2.8 is a great compromise between size and weight and > aperture, and, IMO, a better lens all around than the K35/2.0 ... since > I've gotten the 30mm I rarely use the 28 or either of the 35's. > > The K24/2.8 is another fine lens, although methinks it's a bit wide for > good "street photography," but I guess that depends on your definition of > the practice and your shooting style. > > I've had numerous 85mm lenses and settled on the K85/1.8 for its size, > sharpness, speed, and weight. I loved the M85/2.0, and I'd have it yet > had not a lady friend talked me out of it ... damn! > However, as much as I liked the lens (it's nice and small and more than > adequate in sharpness) the K85/1.8 was the lens I almost always reached > for. > > If you get an 85mm, you might want to make the jump to the K120/2.8. > It's a very nice lens, yes siree!, and while it has a similar optical > formula to the K105/2.8 (which I've loved since the 1960's version in > Super Takumar screw mount format), I think the bokeh is a little better, > perhaps because of the longer focal length. > > A good all-around kit for street photography might be the 30mm, 50mm, > 85mm, and the 120mm. Those are ny choices, anyway. > > Well, welcome to the list ... have phun. > > Pentax wrote: > > > I've got an MX. Mostly I'm interested in just seeing what people have > > to say about lenses. I've found some lens review sites around on the > > web and many of them are compilations of comments from this list so I > > figured I'd go right to the source and see what was going on. > > > > Just started shooting with the MX again after a year of shooting > > exclusively with a Rolleicord V and wanted to get a coupla lenses to > > compliment the 50/1.4. Probably something shorter and something > > longer with the same build quality and a similiar look and feel to > > photos (good bokeh, mostly shooting at or near wide open). Something > > that goes well with Tri-X for handheld, available light, street and > > travel photography. Maybe the 24/2.8 and one of the 85's or 100's. > > Three seems like the perfect number. Can bring them all without much > > overlap. Though the K 35/2 is also appealing... > >
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- Original Message - From: "Hal & Sandra Davis" Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > If you are looking for A1 prime lenses, suggest starting with 50mm f1:1.2 M > or A. Price was always a deterent for me, bought an LX outfit on eBay, and > was surprised to see the lens in the bag when the kit arrived(a bonus). It > certainly is worth the price. There is no M 50mm f/1.2. There is a K version, which is highly regarded, and an A version, which is quite nice. William Robb
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Which would mean that "TLA" is actually a TLA. How ironic! -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Nick Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Three Letter Acronym! _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
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What? And filter out The Voice of Reason? Perish the thought!! :-) -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just filter me out, Frank. "Where FROM: includes 'knarf', delete". That is why I never saw your post below . -- _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/features&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
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Dear Curmudgeon, Of course I could have googled it. I know that! But it's ever so much more fun asking on-list, don't you think? BTW (and this isn't directed at you, Tom, just at "TLA's" in general), ERC, TLA, BTW and all those other alleged TLA's aren't acronyms. They're initialisms. A true acronym spells another (usually unrelated) word. So PUG, for instance, is an acronym. Now, I have a feeling that someone's going to tell me I'm wrong. But I'm not. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 12:53:01 -0500 Three Letter Acronym! Suggested google search: "internet acronym". Time to find: "less than to write post defining ignorance". Mode: "curmudgeonly". :) -- _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
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frank theriault: Three Letter Acronym! Which would mean that "TLA" is actually a TLA. How ironic! However, ETLA (extended three letter acronym) is not a TLA :-) anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/
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frank theriault: ERC, TLA, BTW and all those other alleged TLA's aren't acronyms. They're initialisms. A true acronym spells another (usually unrelated) word. So PUG, for instance, is an acronym. Ok, so TLA isn't really a three letter acronym, then. But it is a three letter abbreviation. So, there :-) anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/
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Oooo, good one, Anders! -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Anders Hultman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ok, so TLA isn't really a three letter acronym, then. But it is a three letter abbreviation. So, there :-) anders - http://anders.hultman.nu/ _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photos&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:22:55 -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > No, it's not an abbreviation. An abbreviation is when a word is > used with one or more letters missing from it, such as bkfst for > breakfast. Not according to AH3: abúbreúviúaútion P Pronunciation Key (-brv-shn) n. 1. The act or product of shortening. 2. A shortened form of a word or phrase used chiefly in writing to represent the complete form, such as Mass. for Massachusetts or USMC for United States Marine Corps. 3. Mus. Any of various symbols used in notation to indicate that a series of notes is to be repeated. dictionary.com omits the last one. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
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Thanks for the information. We are new to the list and trying to learn more about our favorite Pentax stuff. Have several hundred bodies, lenses, flashes, and accessories collected over past 40 years, and just 2-3 years of looking back. - Original Message - From: "Paul Ewins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 5:24 PM Subject: RE: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > There are, however, two versions of the K50/1.2 and on the later version > the lens information on the front ring has been been changed to match > the style of the M lenses. The old one had "SMC PENTAX 1:1.2/50" while > the newer one has "smc PENTAX 1:1.2 50mm" in a different typeface. So it > looks like an M lens but it is just the old K lens in drag. > > Paul Ewins > Melbourne, Australia > > -Original Message- > From: Hal & Sandra Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thanks for the correction. My 50/1.2 is K. > - Original Message - > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > There is no M 50mm f/1.2. > > There is a K version, which is highly regarded, and an A version, > which is > > quite nice. > > > >
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How many telegraph operators have you met in the computer room? Yes they used alphabet soup, but it was a different mix. 73 Jostein wrote: Why we hang on to the acronyms. Laziness I suppose...:-) Interesting thoughts about Unix. :-) I thought the "alphabet soup" had it's origin from morse and ham radio. Cheers, Jostein - Pictures at: http://oksne.net - - Original Message - From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 10:55 PM Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Common usage has evolved away from your dictionary definition. By the way (BTW), anyone ever wonder why all these alphabet soup intials on the internet? Well, the old time Unix hackers couldn't tough type so spelling out words was a pain. Bandwidth was very limited, anyone remember 110baud? And, mostly, making things criptic to outsiders seemed cute to those,mostly, college kids. So, that leaves the question, why do we do it? -- frank theriault wrote: Dear Curmudgeon, Of course I could have googled it. I know that! But it's ever so much more fun asking on-list, don't you think? BTW (and this isn't directed at you, Tom, just at "TLA's" in general), ERC, TLA, BTW and all those other alleged TLA's aren't acronyms. They're initialisms. A true acronym spells another (usually unrelated) word. So PUG, for instance, is an acronym. Now, I have a feeling that someone's going to tell me I'm wrong. But I'm not. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 12:53:01 -0500 Three Letter Acronym! Suggested google search: "internet acronym". Time to find: "less than to write post defining ignorance". Mode: "curmudgeonly". :) -- _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway." -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway."
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
Actually, I think the term "alphabet soup" originated in the Great Depression in America, when a lot of government programs were initiated to help people out . Since almost all of them went by an acronym, the common people started calling the government alphabet soup. At least that's what I heard; I'm kind of a history nut. I think that it's interesting, sorry if you don't! Rebekah "a day without sunshine is like, you know, night." - Original Message - From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 6:32 PM Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > How many telegraph operators have you met in the computer room? Yes they used > alphabet soup, but it was a different mix. 73 > > Jostein wrote: > > Why we hang on to the acronyms. > > Laziness I suppose...:-) > > > > Interesting thoughts about Unix. :-) > > I thought the "alphabet soup" had it's origin from morse and ham radio. > > > > Cheers, > > Jostein > > > > - > > Pictures at: http://oksne.net > > - > > ----- Original Message - > > From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 10:55 PM > > Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > > > > > > > >>Common usage has evolved away from your dictionary definition. > >> > >>By the way (BTW), anyone ever wonder why all these alphabet soup intials > > > > on the > > > >>internet? Well, the old time Unix hackers couldn't tough type so spelling > > > > out > > > >>words was a pain. Bandwidth was very limited, anyone remember 110baud? > > > > And, > > > >>mostly, making things criptic to outsiders seemed cute to those,mostly, > > > > college > > > >>kids. So, that leaves the question, why do we do it? > >> > >>-- > >> > >>frank theriault wrote: > >> > >>>Dear Curmudgeon, > >>> > >>>Of course I could have googled it. I know that! > >>> > >>>But it's ever so much more fun asking on-list, don't you think? > >>> > >>>BTW (and this isn't directed at you, Tom, just at "TLA's" in general), > >>>ERC, TLA, BTW and all those other alleged TLA's aren't acronyms. > >>>They're initialisms. A true acronym spells another (usually unrelated) > >>>word. So PUG, for instance, is an acronym. > >>> > >>>Now, I have a feeling that someone's going to tell me I'm wrong. But > >>>I'm not. > >>> > >>>cheers, > >>>frank > >>> > >>>"The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The > >>>pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > >>>>Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 12:53:01 -0500 > >>>> > >>>>Three Letter Acronym! > >>>> > >>>>Suggested google search: "internet acronym". > >>>>Time to find: "less than to write post defining ignorance". > >>>>Mode: "curmudgeonly". > >>>>:) > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>> > >>> > >>>_ > >>>Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > >>>http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > >>> > >>> > >> > >>-- > >>graywolf > >>http://graywolfphoto.com > >> > >>"You might as well accept people as they are, > >>you are not going to be able to change them anyway." > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > graywolf > http://graywolfphoto.com > > "You might as well accept people as they are, > you are not going to be able to change them anyway." > > >
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
At 05:28 PM 10/01/2004 -0500, you wrote: Unfortunately Pentax seem to have given up making close fitting ERCs. Too many combinations now I suppose. Nick. No they haven't. I have one for my MZ-S Wendy Beard, Ottawa, Canada http://www.beard-redfern.com
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
I too have the one for the MZ-S with two front sections, but compared to the MX
version it can't be described as close-fitting.
Nick
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At 05:28 PM 10/01/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Unfortunately Pentax seem to have given up making close fitting ERCs. Too
>many combinations now I suppose.
>
>Nick.
No they haven't. I have one for my MZ-S
Wendy Beard,
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.beard-redfern.com
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Steve Desjardins wrote: > > We could actually do this if it would make things easier for people. > Start a post with... (snip) > > > o: WOOHOO! if you have found that perfect beef stew recipe. > > Just a thought . . . > > Steven Desjardins This is really funny -- The first thing I read having just come back from the grocery store was your post - and what I got at the store was the makings for beef stew. Will advise :) annsan
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I have the perfect stew recipe if you need it... >Ann Sanfedele wrote: Steve Desjardins wrote: We could actually do this if it would make things easier for people. Start a post with... (snip) o: WOOHOO! if you have found that perfect beef stew recipe. Just a thought . . . Steven Desjardins This is really funny -- The first thing I read having just come back from the grocery store was your post - and what I got at the store was the makings for beef stew. Will advise :) annsan
