Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking, film photos?
On 4 February 2011 20:46, Leon Altoff leon.alt...@gmail.com wrote: Sam, Did you ever actually find an iPhone app? I have an Android phone and after searching eh market for data collection found several apps that could be used for this with drop down lists and all sorts of features. If you found something good for the iPhone let us know which app you ended up using. (For teh Android I would probably just use Form Builder for this, though I would use ODK for larger data collection needs) Very handy little app Leon, thanks for the pointer. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking, film photos?
Sam, Did you ever actually find an iPhone app? I have an Android phone and after searching eh market for data collection found several apps that could be used for this with drop down lists and all sorts of features. If you found something good for the iPhone let us know which app you ended up using. (For teh Android I would probably just use Form Builder for this, though I would use ODK for larger data collection needs) Leon From: Sam Hi all, I am starting to take some film photos w my aunt's old sp1000 and I thought it would be a good time to be a little diligent about noting down the ap/shutter/iso for each photo. This will help me figure out if my camera is metering correctly (and also help me figure out how to reproduce a good shot if I ever make one by accident (somewhat joking here)). So: does anyone know of an app for the iPhone that does this? I've been looking, but my google-Fu is weak. thanks, Sam PS, despite self disparaging jokes, I've been taking photos for a while. I'm more of a pancake DA40 than a nifty-fifty. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking, film photos?
On 1/31/2011 9:59 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Jan 30, 2011, at 11:34 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Cotty, you gotta be badly discombobulated. I did not participate in this thread until I saw your message full of slashes and words written together without spaces between them... /shrugs/ Boris, don't mind Cotty, he's just taking the piss. Larry, Cotty is generally a very cool guy (saying that having met him in person), but sometimes discombobulation takes the better of him... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking, film photos?
I store info on my BlackBerry because I usually have my phone but can never find a pen on the fly. Pad and pen: two things. Phone: one thing. The pad and pen just have a higher entropy. http://www.filofax.co.uk/store/organiserdetails.asp?sizeId=1rangeId=98dsi zeId=1 -Original Message- From: Cotty cotty...@mac.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 16:24:19 To: pentax listPDML@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking, film photos? On 30/1/11, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: You'd be surprised Boris - in some appa entering data is faster than doing it with pad and pen /winkwinkwink/ Apologies///winkwinkwink should read: You'd be surprised Boris, in some instances entering data on an iPhone is faster than doing it with paper and pen... /winkwinkwinkwink (got one os those annoying muscle spasms on my eyelid right now.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking, film photos?
On 31/1/11, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: . I did not participate in this thread until I saw your message sorry boris - you are quite correct. apologies (written with phone glued to ear waiting for an answer) wink my eye's better now ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking, film photos?
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 31/1/11, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: . I did not participate in this thread until I saw your message sorry boris - you are quite correct. apologies (written with phone glued to ear waiting for an answer) wink my eye's better now ;-) Stop saying wink. It's frightfully tinny sounding. Now yawn has a nice woody tone to it. Could you have your involuntary spasms do that, instead? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ __o _'\,_ (*)/ (*) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Sam L samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: I like the digital pen suggestion and the list manager app suggestion. I'll probably stick with the plain old notepad app on the iphone. I suppose this whole iphone thing _is_ terribly technologically overkill for the problem at hand, but it just so happens that I actually carry this thing every where I go (to a fault!). Carrying an additional journal and pencil would be 2 more things to schlep around. I was thinking some more about what I hoped to gain by noting this stuff down and I came up with 2 answers: 1) I want to be able to look at a photo and be able to learn from my mistakes (primarily if the DoF is good or not). 2) I want to get a better feeling for my different lenses. I've got a handful of normals, a couple longs, and a couple wides. I'll never remember which lens I used for a given photo unless I take a note. You might also look for a database manager. I see a couple that look promising for this kind of stuff. I just downloaded General DB and will start experimenting with it. There's also FM Go from FileMaker that looks interesting. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 1/31/2011 12:38 PM, Cotty wrote: sorry boris - you are quite correct. apologies (written with phone glued to ear waiting for an answer) Sure thing. Thankfully I am the only Boris in the motley crew. If it were several of us - that might have been funnier still. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking film photos?
I think several responders lost sight of the fact that the original poster is shooting with film. I also think that most shooting logs (like Kenny-boy's three versions: http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/exposure-log.htm ) leave off an important part of the equation (if learning is your goal). That is the METER'S RECOMMENDED EXPOSURE. If you are shooting every shot with the meter's recommended exposure, then you haven't learned the basics of photography yet. To truly learn, one should record the meter's recommended exposure and then how much you over or under exposed (and why). The same is true when evaluating other's shots. While the shutter speed, aperture and ISO provide some useful information, it is not as useful as knowing also what the meter's recommended exposure was for that scene (and metering mode). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when, taking film photos?
From: Bob W Doesn't the iPhone have a simple voice memo app? Yes it does. That's an option. Of course, with DSLRs you can often record the voice memo directly onto the exposed frame - I could do this with the 1DmII. With, film the correct procedure would be to jot down the info onto a notelet and photograph it on an adjacent frame to the actual frame of the scene ;) the problem there is that you then have to write down the 2nd exposure details and photograph them; then write done those details and, well, you can probably see where this is going. To be honest, I've never understand why people write this information down after the event, and especially why they publish this information with their pictures. I can't see how anyone else can benefit - I've never looked at a photograph and wondered what aperture and shutter speed was used, and I've no idea what to do with the information when people provide it. The only value that I know of in having this information is when I write it down before I take the photograph, as part of a trial or test plan. For example, I want to understand a bit more about the Voigtlander 75mm lens I bought a couple of months ago, so I have planned a series of shots, and noted down the apertures I want to use to test different things. I'll use these as my script, noting alongside them what I want to know, and later when the shots are done make notes of what actually happened. This has value to me, whereas wandering around doing general photography, then noting the technicals never has. When I applied myself to systematically learning photography, having that kind of information helped me begin to understand my equipment and how it would perform. Lens trials wouldn't tell me how the combination of camera, lens film was going to work out in the real world. I needed to have that kind of information for the photos I was making with the equipment I had so I could understand what I was doing with that equipment. Once I got my film developed, looking at the photos and reviewing the aperture shutter speed (and ISO/ASA) information began to give me a feel for when I needed to override the camera's recommended exposure. Having that information to review is how I learned when to over/under expose to get the images I want. Not just that. It's the only way that worked for me to really ingrain the understanding of how aperture controls D.O.F. and shutter speed controls motion. You need to not only understand it generally, but to understand it intimately for the equipment you use. And, while we're on the subject, looking for an app that does it strikes me as a classic example of techno overkill. B - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3413 - Release Date: 01/30/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when, taking film photos?
From: eckinator totally what bob said - always published aperture and speed in my posterous for those who care but never knew why cheers ecke That one's easy. I started the blog as a school assignment, and the instructor told us we had to include that information in the captions. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3413 - Release Date: 01/30/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when, taking film photos?
From: Bruce Walker On 11-01-30 5:38 PM, Bob W wrote: And, while we're on the subject, looking for an app that does it strikes me as a classic example of techno overkill. Me too. Much easier to simply use a camera that records this info automatically, like any of Pentax' digital models, old or new. :-) If memory serves, the original poster is trying out a Spotmatic he inherited. I don't think it records EXIF data. I have a vague recollection that one of Pentax's later film cameras could be made to imprint this information on the film, and the engineers were smart enough to put the data imprint in between the frames. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3413 - Release Date: 01/30/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when, taking film photos?
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:31 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I have a vague recollection that one of Pentax's later film cameras could be made to imprint this information on the film, and the engineers were smart enough to put the data imprint in between the frames. I don't think that Pentax was first in this, but it was available on the MZ-S Data Imprinting One of the great new features of this camera is the edge-of-film data imprinting, which can be turned on or off. The film roll sequence number (from 1-99), ISO film speed, and data imprinting brightness are printed on the edge of the leader at the beginning of the film. Exposure mode, metering mode, shutter speed and aperture values, exposure compensation value and whether auto-bracketing or multiple exposure have been used are recorded at the edge of the film for each exposure in a location between the film sprockets. This is done on the fly as the film is wound, through use of a small single-digit light-emitting diode array to the top right of the format opening. This is very accurate in image placement--very impressive. The brightness of the letter imprinting can be set. -source: http://shutterbug.com/equipmentreviews/35mm_cameras/0502sb_pentax/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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..the engineers were smart enough to put the data imprint in between the frames. Where you could cut it in half and make it unreadable... On 1/31/2011 11:31 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Bruce Walker On 11-01-30 5:38 PM, Bob W wrote: And, while we're on the subject, looking for an app that does it strikes me as a classic example of techno overkill. Me too. Much easier to simply use a camera that records this info automatically, like any of Pentax' digital models, old or new. :-) If memory serves, the original poster is trying out a Spotmatic he inherited. I don't think it records EXIF data. I have a vague recollection that one of Pentax's later film cameras could be made to imprint this information on the film, and the engineers were smart enough to put the data imprint in between the frames. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3413 - Release Date: 01/30/11 -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when, taking, film photos?
From: Larry Colen On Jan 30, 2011, at 11:34 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Cotty, you gotta be badly discombobulated. I did not participate in this thread until I saw your message full of slashes and words written together without spaces between them... /shrugs/ Boris, don't mind Cotty, he's just taking the piss. Or hitting the sauce. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3413 - Release Date: 01/30/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking, film photos?
John Sessoms wrote on Sun, 30 Jan 2011 07:47:27 -0800 Seems like if you really wanted to get in the spirit of the thing, you'd just carry a little pocket notebook and a pen and write them down. Probably less of a distraction from photography than fiddling with the iPhone. ...or use a Pentax MZ-S; it can record this info on the negative outside of the image area. Of course, a notebook and pens are a bit less expensive! Regards, Jim Jim King jamesk8...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Boris Liberman On 1/31/2011 12:38 PM, Cotty wrote: sorry boris - you are quite correct. apologies (written with phone glued to ear waiting for an answer) Sure thing. Thankfully I am the only Boris in the motley crew. If it were several of us - that might have been funnier still. Boris Hmmm? Maybe we can change Cotty's name to Natasha. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3413 - Release Date: 01/30/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Darren Addy I think several responders lost sight of the fact that the original poster is shooting with film. I also think that most shooting logs (like Kenny-boy's three versions: http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/exposure-log.htm ) leave off an important part of the equation (if learning is your goal). That is the METER'S RECOMMENDED EXPOSURE. If you are shooting every shot with the meter's recommended exposure, then you haven't learned the basics of photography yet. To truly learn, one should record the meter's recommended exposure and then how much you over or under exposed (and why). The same is true when evaluating other's shots. While the shutter speed, aperture and ISO provide some useful information, it is not as useful as knowing also what the meter's recommended exposure was for that scene (and metering mode). Good point. Wish I'd thought of that. Might have helped me to learn faster. I recorded aperture/shutter speed to look at later along with the photos, but I can see how it would have been more useful if I'd also recorded what aperture/shutter speed the camera was telling me to use so I could make a better comparison. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3413 - Release Date: 01/30/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when,, taking film photos?
That's the age-old problem with trying to make things idiot proof. As soon as you manage it, the universe produces a better idiot. From: P. J. Alling ..the engineers were smart enough to put the data imprint in between the frames. Where you could cut it in half and make it unreadable... On 1/31/2011 11:31 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Bruce Walker On 11-01-30 5:38 PM, Bob W wrote: And, while we're on the subject, looking for an app that does it strikes me as a classic example of techno overkill. Me too. Much easier to simply use a camera that records this info automatically, like any of Pentax' digital models, old or new. :-) If memory serves, the original poster is trying out a Spotmatic he inherited. I don't think it records EXIF data. I have a vague recollection that one of Pentax's later film cameras could be made to imprint this information on the film, and the engineers were smart enough to put the data imprint in between the frames. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3413 - Release Date: 01/30/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking, film photos?
On 31/1/11, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: Stop saying wink. It's frightfully tinny sounding. Now yawn has a nice woody tone to it. Could you have your involuntary spasms do that, instead? Actually ///jerkjerk my knee's going now -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 1/31/2011 3:14 PM, Cotty wrote: On 31/1/11, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed: Stop saying wink. It's frightfully tinny sounding. Now yawn has a nice woody tone to it. Could you have your involuntary spasms do that, instead? Actually ///jerkjerk my knee's going now Are you /sure/ it's your knee? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Stop saying wink. It's frightfully tinny sounding. Now yawn has a nice woody tone to it. Could you have your involuntary spasms do that, instead? Actually ///jerkjerk my knee's going now Are you /sure/ it's your knee? he's excited by the phrase 'has a nice woody'. /twink/ B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Bob W, discom-BOB-W-lated, issued forth with: he's excited by the phrase 'has a nice woody'. /twink/ No, sorry. It's /gone/. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ __o _'\,_ (*)/ (*) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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With respect to the original question, - I wonder if one can just take a photo of the scene with iPhone and attach a note/voice memo to that. 2011/1/30 Bob W pdml at web-options.com: To be honest, I've never understand why people write this information down after the event, and especially why they publish this information with their pictures. I can't see how anyone else can benefit - I've never looked at a photograph and wondered what aperture and shutter speed was used, and I've no idea what to do with the information when people provide it. It doesn't happen too often, but such occasions happen time to time: 1. I'd like to figure out what shutter speed was used to either freeze or blur the motion to get the effect seen in the photo. Some examples: waterfalls, water splash, dancer's motion blur - to know what is the critical value of the shutter speed. 2. I'd like to figure out what aperture provides reasonable DOF for practical situations that I encounter on the dance floor. Or I'd like to see what aperture provides enough separation between the foreground and the background, or what aperture is needed to have both in a reasonable focus at the same time. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: You might also look for a database manager. I see a couple that look promising for this kind of stuff. I just downloaded General DB and will start experimenting with it. There's also FM Go from FileMaker that looks interesting. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com Thanks Godfrey, I'll give those a look, too. --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: I think several responders lost sight of the fact that the original poster is shooting with film. I also think that most shooting logs (like Kenny-boy's three versions: http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/exposure-log.htm ) leave off an important part of the equation (if learning is your goal). That is the METER'S RECOMMENDED EXPOSURE. If you are shooting every shot with the meter's recommended exposure, then you haven't learned the basics of photography yet. To truly learn, one should record the meter's recommended exposure and then how much you over or under exposed (and why). The same is true when evaluating other's shots. While the shutter speed, aperture and ISO provide some useful information, it is not as useful as knowing also what the meter's recommended exposure was for that scene (and metering mode). True. Obviously when I shoot with the K-x, the camera records the ap/shutter etc for me. And Igor those are good examples of good things to learn from the photo settings. --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking film photos?
Hi all, I am starting to take some film photos w my aunt's old sp1000 and I thought it would be a good time to be a little diligent about noting down the ap/shutter/iso for each photo. This will help me figure out if my camera is metering correctly (and also help me figure out how to reproduce a good shot if I ever make one by accident (somewhat joking here)). So: does anyone know of an app for the iPhone that does this? I've been looking, but my google-Fu is weak. thanks, Sam PS, despite self disparaging jokes, I've been taking photos for a while. I'm more of a pancake DA40 than a nifty-fifty. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Sam samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am starting to take some film photos w my aunt's old sp1000 and I thought it would be a good time to be a little diligent about noting down the ap/shutter/iso for each photo. This will help me figure out if my camera is metering correctly (and also help me figure out how to reproduce a good shot if I ever make one by accident (somewhat joking here)). So: does anyone know of an app for the iPhone that does this? I've been looking, but my google-Fu is weak. iPen and iPaper.:-) Dave thanks, Sam PS, despite self disparaging jokes, I've been taking photos for a while. I'm more of a pancake DA40 than a nifty-fifty. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yeah, I was starting to expect as much. The main problem with that is the iMe component, which is likely to misplace the iPaper. -Sam On Jan 30, 2011, at 8:54 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Sam samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am starting to take some film photos w my aunt's old sp1000 and I thought it would be a good time to be a little diligent about noting down the ap/shutter/iso for each photo. This will help me figure out if my camera is metering correctly (and also help me figure out how to reproduce a good shot if I ever make one by accident (somewhat joking here)). So: does anyone know of an app for the iPhone that does this? I've been looking, but my google-Fu is weak. iPen and iPaper.:-) Dave thanks, Sam PS, despite self disparaging jokes, I've been taking photos for a while. I'm more of a pancake DA40 than a nifty-fifty. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 30/01/2011 7:32 AM, Sam wrote: Hi all, I am starting to take some film photos w my aunt's old sp1000 and I thought it would be a good time to be a little diligent about noting down the ap/shutter/iso for each photo. This will help me figure out if my camera is metering correctly (and also help me figure out how to reproduce a good shot if I ever make one by accident (somewhat joking here)). So: does anyone know of an app for the iPhone that does this? I've been looking, but my google-Fu is weak. Do you have a small note pad? -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 1/30/2011 10:26 AM, William Robb wrote: On 30/01/2011 7:32 AM, Sam wrote: Hi all, I am starting to take some film photos w my aunt's old sp1000 and I thought it would be a good time to be a little diligent about noting down the ap/shutter/iso for each photo. This will help me figure out if my camera is metering correctly (and also help me figure out how to reproduce a good shot if I ever make one by accident (somewhat joking here)). So: does anyone know of an app for the iPhone that does this? I've been looking, but my google-Fu is weak. Do you have a small note pad? He does but apparently it need batteries. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking, film photos?
From: Sam Hi all, I am starting to take some film photos w my aunt's old sp1000 and I thought it would be a good time to be a little diligent about noting down the ap/shutter/iso for each photo. This will help me figure out if my camera is metering correctly (and also help me figure out how to reproduce a good shot if I ever make one by accident (somewhat joking here)). So: does anyone know of an app for the iPhone that does this? I've been looking, but my google-Fu is weak. thanks, Sam PS, despite self disparaging jokes, I've been taking photos for a while. I'm more of a pancake DA40 than a nifty-fifty. Seems like if you really wanted to get in the spirit of the thing, you'd just carry a little pocket notebook and a pen and write them down. Probably less of a distraction from photography than fiddling with the iPhone. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3411 - Release Date: 01/29/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 30/1/11, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: Probably less of a distraction from photography than fiddling with the iPhone. You'd be surprised Boris - in some appa entering data is faster than doing it with pad and pen /winkwinkwink/ -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Beg pardon?! On 1/30/2011 5:59 PM, Cotty wrote: On 30/1/11, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: Probably less of a distraction from photography than fiddling with the iPhone. You'd be surprised Boris - in some appa entering data is faster than doing it with pad and pen /winkwinkwink/ -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 30/1/11, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: You'd be surprised Boris - in some appa entering data is faster than doing it with pad and pen /winkwinkwink/ Apologies///winkwinkwink should read: You'd be surprised Boris, in some instances entering data on an iPhone is faster than doing it with paper and pen... /winkwinkwinkwink (got one os those annoying muscle spasms on my eyelid right now.) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 30/1/11, Sam, discombobulated, unleashed: I am starting to take some film photos w my aunt's old sp1000 and I thought it would be a good time to be a little diligent about noting down the ap/shutter/iso for each photo. This will help me figure out if my camera is metering correctly (and also help me figure out how to reproduce a good shot if I ever make one by accident (somewhat joking here)). So: does anyone know of an app for the iPhone that does this? I've been looking, but my google-Fu is weak. thanks, Sam Hi Sam, This is the only one I know of: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/photo-tools-pro/id374359605?mt=8 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Sam samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I was starting to expect as much. The main problem with that is the iMe component, which is likely to misplace the iPaper. -Sam Sorry, i just could not resist. I kept my film records with pen and paper and prayed i would not misplace them. Dave On Jan 30, 2011, at 8:54 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Sam samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am starting to take some film photos w my aunt's old sp1000 and I thought it would be a good time to be a little diligent about noting down the ap/shutter/iso for each photo. This will help me figure out if my camera is metering correctly (and also help me figure out how to reproduce a good shot if I ever make one by accident (somewhat joking here)). So: does anyone know of an app for the iPhone that does this? I've been looking, but my google-Fu is weak. iPen and iPaper.:-) Dave thanks, Sam PS, despite self disparaging jokes, I've been taking photos for a while. I'm more of a pancake DA40 than a nifty-fifty. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 11:27 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Sam samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I was starting to expect as much. The main problem with that is the iMe component, which is likely to misplace the iPaper. -Sam Sorry, i just could not resist. I kept my film records with pen and paper and prayed i would not misplace them. No problem David. I enjoy a little humor. After the joke has been made, tho, it gets a little stale. So you other jokesters, who were neither original nor helpful, I curse you to an eternity of PDML threads in which Kenny Boy is highly praised, you are taunted by rumors of pentax full frame cameras which never come to fruition, and Larry constantly invokes naked images of himself. And may your only photographic subject be a cormorant. To Cotty, thanks for the pointer. That app is exactly what I was looking for. $10 is probably a little steep for me. So paper and pencil will have to do. Sam --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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http://www.anoto.com/the-pen-2.aspx Yeah, I was starting to expect as much. The main problem with that is the iMe component, which is likely to misplace the iPaper. -Sam On Jan 30, 2011, at 8:54 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Sam samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am starting to take some film photos w my aunt's old sp1000 and I thought it would be a good time to be a little diligent about noting down the ap/shutter/iso for each photo. This will help me figure out if my camera is metering correctly (and also help me figure out how to reproduce a good shot if I ever make one by accident (somewhat joking here)). So: does anyone know of an app for the iPhone that does this? I've been looking, but my google-Fu is weak. iPen and iPaper.:-) Dave thanks, Sam PS, despite self disparaging jokes, I've been taking photos for a while. I'm more of a pancake DA40 than a nifty-fifty. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You'd be surprised Boris - in some appa entering data is faster than doing it with pad and pen /winkwinkwink/ Apologies///winkwinkwink should read: You'd be surprised Boris, in some instances entering data on an iPhone is faster than doing it with paper and pen... /winkwinkwinkwink (got one os those annoying muscle spasms on my eyelid right now.) do you mean your iLid? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 30/1/11, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: do you mean your iLid? eBahgum! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 08:32:20AM -0500, Sam wrote: So: does anyone know of an app for the iPhone that does this? Doesn't the iPhone have a simple voice memo app? Of course you could always leave yourself a voice mail message. If you stick with using film, you might put an MX-S in your long-term plans; it imprints that information on the film (either between the sprocket holes, or on the 37th frame). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 30 January 2011 13:32, Sam samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am starting to take some film photos w my aunt's old sp1000 and I thought it would be a good time to be a little diligent about noting down the ap/shutter/iso for each photo. This will help me figure out if my camera is metering correctly (and also help me figure out how to reproduce a good shot if I ever make one by accident (somewhat joking here)). So: does anyone know of an app for the iPhone that does this? I've been looking, but my google-Fu is weak. Use the iPhone's camera to take a quick snap of the SLR's aperture shutter settings after each photo. Not only will that get you the data you wanted, but a date/timestamp and possibly GPS data are thrown into the mix for free. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 30/1/11, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: Doesn't the iPhone have a simple voice memo app? Yes it does. That's an option. Of course, with DSLRs you can often record the voice memo directly onto the exposed frame - I could do this with the 1DmII. With, film the correct procedure would be to jot down the info onto a notelet and photograph it on an adjacent frame to the actual frame of the scene ;) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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And then there is a variation on the cinematographers approach: have an assistant with chalk board write down and display the relevant info, include that in the frame or in a follow-on image. stan On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Cotty wrote: On 30/1/11, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: Doesn't the iPhone have a simple voice memo app? Yes it does. That's an option. Of course, with DSLRs you can often record the voice memo directly onto the exposed frame - I could do this with the 1DmII. With, film the correct procedure would be to jot down the info onto a notelet and photograph it on an adjacent frame to the actual frame of the scene ;) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Look for a 'list manager' app. There are at least a dozen available. While a dedicated app might implement all of this for you, why bother with that? Any simple flat database or list app can be set up to do it so trivially it's not worth worrying about. Design a list that will allow you to create new entries with a timestamp includes fields to enter ISO, Aperture, Shutter Speed from a popup list and free-text notes. That way your in-field experience is - Snap photo - click new entry - enter aperture, iso, shutter time ... add a note if desirable. If the list can remember the last settings for an entry when it creates a new entry, so much the better. In the absence of even a list manager, just use the default notepad app. Create the list with tabs between the fields and a return at the end of each entry. Synchronize that back to the computer and insert it into a spreadsheet ... done. On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Sam samthegr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am starting to take some film photos w my aunt's old sp1000 and I thought it would be a good time to be a little diligent about noting down the ap/shutter/iso for each photo. This will help me figure out if my camera is metering correctly (and also help me figure out how to reproduce a good shot if I ever make one by accident (somewhat joking here)). So: does anyone know of an app for the iPhone that does this? I've been looking, but my google-Fu is weak. thanks, Sam PS, despite self disparaging jokes, I've been taking photos for a while. I'm more of a pancake DA40 than a nifty-fifty. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 30, 2011, at 5:32 AM, Sam wrote: Hi all, I am starting to take some film photos w my aunt's old sp1000 and I thought it would be a good time to be a little diligent about noting down the ap/shutter/iso for each photo. This will help me figure out if my camera is metering correctly (and also help me figure out how to reproduce a good shot if I ever make one by accident (somewhat joking here)). So: does anyone know of an app for the iPhone that does this? I've been looking, but my google-Fu is weak. If I wanted to do this with my android, I'd take a picture of the camera showing the settings. The exif in the android picture would also show location (geotagging) as well as time and date. I might also take a second shot, mimicing the film photo, to make it easy to connect the two. thanks, Sam PS, despite self disparaging jokes, I've been taking photos for a while. I'm more of a pancake DA40 than a nifty-fifty. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 30, 2011, at 8:26 AM, Cotty wrote: On 30/1/11, Sam, discombobulated, unleashed: I am starting to take some film photos w my aunt's old sp1000 and I thought it would be a good time to be a little diligent about noting down the ap/shutter/iso for each photo. This will help me figure out if my camera is metering correctly (and also help me figure out how to reproduce a good shot if I ever make one by accident (somewhat joking here)). So: does anyone know of an app for the iPhone that does this? I've been looking, but my google-Fu is weak. thanks, Sam Hi Sam, This is the only one I know of: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/photo-tools-pro/id374359605?mt=8 The iPhone doesn't have a simple text editor that you can just write that info down in? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Doesn't the iPhone have a simple voice memo app? Yes it does. That's an option. Of course, with DSLRs you can often record the voice memo directly onto the exposed frame - I could do this with the 1DmII. With, film the correct procedure would be to jot down the info onto a notelet and photograph it on an adjacent frame to the actual frame of the scene ;) the problem there is that you then have to write down the 2nd exposure details and photograph them; then write done those details and, well, you can probably see where this is going. To be honest, I've never understand why people write this information down after the event, and especially why they publish this information with their pictures. I can't see how anyone else can benefit - I've never looked at a photograph and wondered what aperture and shutter speed was used, and I've no idea what to do with the information when people provide it. The only value that I know of in having this information is when I write it down before I take the photograph, as part of a trial or test plan. For example, I want to understand a bit more about the Voigtlander 75mm lens I bought a couple of months ago, so I have planned a series of shots, and noted down the apertures I want to use to test different things. I'll use these as my script, noting alongside them what I want to know, and later when the shots are done make notes of what actually happened. This has value to me, whereas wandering around doing general photography, then noting the technicals never has. And, while we're on the subject, looking for an app that does it strikes me as a classic example of techno overkill. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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totally what bob said - always published aperture and speed in my posterous for those who care but never knew why cheers ecke 2011/1/30 Bob W p...@web-options.com: Doesn't the iPhone have a simple voice memo app? Yes it does. That's an option. Of course, with DSLRs you can often record the voice memo directly onto the exposed frame - I could do this with the 1DmII. With, film the correct procedure would be to jot down the info onto a notelet and photograph it on an adjacent frame to the actual frame of the scene ;) the problem there is that you then have to write down the 2nd exposure details and photograph them; then write done those details and, well, you can probably see where this is going. To be honest, I've never understand why people write this information down after the event, and especially why they publish this information with their pictures. I can't see how anyone else can benefit - I've never looked at a photograph and wondered what aperture and shutter speed was used, and I've no idea what to do with the information when people provide it. The only value that I know of in having this information is when I write it down before I take the photograph, as part of a trial or test plan. For example, I want to understand a bit more about the Voigtlander 75mm lens I bought a couple of months ago, so I have planned a series of shots, and noted down the apertures I want to use to test different things. I'll use these as my script, noting alongside them what I want to know, and later when the shots are done make notes of what actually happened. This has value to me, whereas wandering around doing general photography, then noting the technicals never has. And, while we're on the subject, looking for an app that does it strikes me as a classic example of techno overkill. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 30/1/11, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: The iPhone doesn't have a simple text editor that you can just write that info down in? Of course. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11-01-30 5:38 PM, Bob W wrote: To be honest, I've never understand why people write this information down after the event, and especially why they publish this information with their pictures. I can't see how anyone else can benefit - I've never looked at a photograph and wondered what aperture and shutter speed was used, and I've no idea what to do with the information when people provide it. The only value that I know of in having this information is when I write it down before I take the photograph, as part of a trial or test plan. For example, I want to understand a bit more about the Voigtlander 75mm lens I bought a couple of months ago, so I have planned a series of shots, and noted down the apertures I want to use to test different things. I'll use these as my script, noting alongside them what I want to know, and later when the shots are done make notes of what actually happened. This has value to me, whereas wandering around doing general photography, then noting the technicals never has. I greatly appreciate seeing exposure details in order to learn. While examining shots I admire and want to learn from, I mentally reverse-engineer the shot; how might I have taken that? Where's the light? Was flash used? What lens would have given this DoF and FoV? How would I have set the exposure controls? Then I inspect the EXIF to see how close my guesses were. And, while we're on the subject, looking for an app that does it strikes me as a classic example of techno overkill. Me too. Much easier to simply use a camera that records this info automatically, like any of Pentax' digital models, old or new. :-) -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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There is something else to consider. One should not just journal the technical data. Additional notes can add to an image -- recent weather and other information can add to the context of the picture. Technical data should be only a small part of the journal. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -Original Message- From: Bruce Walker [mailto:bruce.wal...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 07:14 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking film photos? On 11-01-30 5:38 PM, Bob W wrote: To be honest, I've never understand why people write this information down after the event, and especially why they publish this information with their pictures. I can't see how anyone else can benefit - I've never looked at a photograph and wondered what aperture and shutter speed was used, and I've no idea what to do with the information when people provide it. The only value that I know of in having this information is when I write it down before I take the photograph, as part of a trial or test plan. For example, I want to understand a bit more about the Voigtlander 75mm lens I bought a couple of months ago, so I have planned a series of shots, and noted down the apertures I want to use to test different things. I'll use these as my script, noting alongside them what I want to know, and later when the shots are done make notes of what actually happened. This has value to me, whereas wandering around doing general photography, then noting the technicals never has. I greatly appreciate seeing exposure details in order to learn. While examining shots I admire and want to learn from, I mentally reverse-engineer the shot; how might I have taken that? Where's the light? Was flash used? What lens would have given this DoF and FoV? How would I have set the exposure controls? Then I inspect the EXIF to see how close my guesses were. And, while we're on the subject, looking for an app that does it strikes me as a classic example of techno overkill. Me too. Much easier to simply use a camera that records this info automatically, like any of Pentax' digital models, old or new. :-) -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking film photos?
On Jan 30, 2011, at 7:14 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: I greatly appreciate seeing exposure details in order to learn. While examining shots I admire and want to learn from, I mentally reverse-engineer the shot; how might I have taken that? Where's the light? Was flash used? What lens would have given this DoF and FoV? How would I have set the exposure controls? Then I inspect the EXIF to see how close my guesses were. And, while we're on the subject, looking for an app that does it strikes me as a classic example of techno overkill. Me too. Much easier to simply use a camera that records this info automatically, like any of Pentax' digital models, old or new. :-) -bmw MZ-S? stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking film photos?
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: ... To be honest, I've never understand why people write this information down after the event, and especially why they publish this information with their pictures. I can't see how anyone else can benefit - I've never looked at a photograph and wondered what aperture and shutter speed was used, and I've no idea what to do with the information when people provide it. ... Once upon a time I used to log film, aperture and shutter data as an educational tool. I stopped doing it pretty quickly and never did it again. Nowadays I post tech info with my photos to flickr for the benefit of the photo equipment geekery that people like to see, but I strip it from metadata (unless I'm posting an image to answer a metadata question) and never post it to photos I put in my portfolio website. I never look at it on others' photos either. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking film photos?
On Jan 30, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Bob W wrote: To be honest, I've never understand why people write this information down after the event, and especially why they publish this information with their pictures. I can't see how anyone else can benefit - I've never looked at a photograph and wondered what aperture and shutter speed was used, and I've no idea what to do with the information when people provide it. ' I never did either, until I started critically looking at photos, and trying to figure out how they were done, or how they could be done better. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking, film photos?
I store info on my BlackBerry because I usually have my phone but can never find a pen on the fly. Pad and pen: two things. Phone: one thing. The pad and pen just have a higher entropy. -Original Message- From: Cotty cotty...@mac.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 16:24:19 To: pentax listPDML@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking, film photos? On 30/1/11, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: You'd be surprised Boris - in some appa entering data is faster than doing it with pad and pen /winkwinkwink/ Apologies///winkwinkwink should read: You'd be surprised Boris, in some instances entering data on an iPhone is faster than doing it with paper and pen... /winkwinkwinkwink (got one os those annoying muscle spasms on my eyelid right now.) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Looking for app to help me log f-stop, shutter when taking film photos?
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: ... To be honest, I've never understand why people write this information down after the event, and especially why they publish this information with their pictures. I can't see how anyone else can benefit - I've never looked at a photograph and wondered what aperture and shutter speed was used, and I've no idea what to do with the information when people provide it. ... Once upon a time I used to log film, aperture and shutter data as an educational tool. I stopped doing it pretty quickly and never did it again. Nowadays I post tech info with my photos to flickr for the benefit of the photo equipment geekery that people like to see, but I strip it from metadata (unless I'm posting an image to answer a metadata question) and never post it to photos I put in my portfolio website. I never look at it on others' photos either. I like the digital pen suggestion and the list manager app suggestion. I'll probably stick with the plain old notepad app on the iphone. I suppose this whole iphone thing _is_ terribly technologically overkill for the problem at hand, but it just so happens that I actually carry this thing every where I go (to a fault!). Carrying an additional journal and pencil would be 2 more things to schlep around. I was thinking some more about what I hoped to gain by noting this stuff down and I came up with 2 answers: 1) I want to be able to look at a photo and be able to learn from my mistakes (primarily if the DoF is good or not). 2) I want to get a better feeling for my different lenses. I've got a handful of normals, a couple longs, and a couple wides. I'll never remember which lens I used for a given photo unless I take a note. Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions. --- Sam PS, I do have and use a K-x, but I thought it would be fun to use the old taks on their original bodies and experience a nice big view-finder. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:34 PM, drd1...@gmail.com wrote: I store info on my BlackBerry because I usually have my phone but can never find a pen on the fly. Pad and pen: two things. Phone: one thing. The pad and pen just have a higher entropy. Yes. My point exactly! --- Sam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Cotty, you gotta be badly discombobulated. I did not participate in this thread until I saw your message full of slashes and words written together without spaces between them... /shrugs/ Boris On 1/30/2011 6:24 PM, Cotty wrote: On 30/1/11, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: You'd be surprised Boris - in some appa entering data is faster than doing it with pad and pen /winkwinkwink/ Apologies///winkwinkwink should read: You'd be surprised Boris, in some instances entering data on an iPhone is faster than doing it with paper and pen... /winkwinkwinkwink (got one os those annoying muscle spasms on my eyelid right now.) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 30, 2011, at 11:34 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Cotty, you gotta be badly discombobulated. I did not participate in this thread until I saw your message full of slashes and words written together without spaces between them... /shrugs/ Boris, don't mind Cotty, he's just taking the piss. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
