Re: For MZ-S Owners
Eric might be able to help you with that. Yeah judging from your picture I'm a little surprised it even loads film to be honest. On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Mark C wrote: > I put a few rolls through the camera and have figured out what that extra > roller does - apparently it helps with loading the film. > > So far I have experienced one roll would not load at all - it would start to > get engaged with the sprockets on the take up spool but would pop loose. > Tried several times but the camera would pull out about an inch of film and > then lose its grip on the leader. All of the other rolls have the end of the > film folded back, so there is about 1/4th of an inch at the very end of the > roll where the emulsion side is facing out, not in like it should. Not sure > that is a problem but I did have one roll unexpectedly rewind halfway done. > These were all canisters that I hand rolled from bulk film, and I am not too > meticulous about cutting the notch at the end of the film. I have had the > unexpected rewind a could times in the past with bulk roll. Its rare but > possibly not related to the loading issue. I experimented with some > commercial rolls and found that if the film leader is placed in just the > right location it loads just fine - but if it is put in just a little to > far it also folds over. > > So I either need to figure out how to get the roller back on or look for a > repair shop. > > Mark > > On 8/23/2016 7:56 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: >> >> i'm guessing that isn't 100% necessary. your film flatness might >> suffer a little though, but the backing plate should help with that. >> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For MZ-S Owners
I put a few rolls through the camera and have figured out what that extra roller does - apparently it helps with loading the film. So far I have experienced one roll would not load at all - it would start to get engaged with the sprockets on the take up spool but would pop loose. Tried several times but the camera would pull out about an inch of film and then lose its grip on the leader. All of the other rolls have the end of the film folded back, so there is about 1/4th of an inch at the very end of the roll where the emulsion side is facing out, not in like it should. Not sure that is a problem but I did have one roll unexpectedly rewind halfway done. These were all canisters that I hand rolled from bulk film, and I am not too meticulous about cutting the notch at the end of the film. I have had the unexpected rewind a could times in the past with bulk roll. Its rare but possibly not related to the loading issue. I experimented with some commercial rolls and found that if the film leader is placed in just the right location it loads just fine - but if it is put in just a little to far it also folds over. So I either need to figure out how to get the roller back on or look for a repair shop. Mark On 8/23/2016 7:56 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: i'm guessing that isn't 100% necessary. your film flatness might suffer a little though, but the backing plate should help with that. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For MZ-S Owners
i'm guessing that isn't 100% necessary. your film flatness might suffer a little though, but the backing plate should help with that. On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 7:55 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: > I totally forgot! I will try to remember today. Glad its working though!! > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:28 PM, Mark C wrote: >> Thanks, Zos. I tested the camera with the one remaining roller and it seems >> to work just fine. I'm not sure if I even need to try and repair it, but it >> may be as simple as just snapping the loose part back into place. >> >> Here are photos of the roller as it is now and the part that broke off: >> >> http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/mz-s-film-roller?blog=9 >> >> IIRC the broken off piece wraps around the first roller, so both press of >> the film. I haven't figured out how it snaps on though - maybe another part >> got lost when I opened the camera. >> >> Thanks >> >> Mark >> >> >> On 8/22/2016 10:19 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: >>> >>> i can do this when i get home if it helps. sorry i didn't see this >>> earlier. >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Mark C wrote: >>>> >>>> That would be great - I want to test it without the missing part and see >>>> if >>>> it makes a difference anyhow. Many thanks! >>>> >>>> >>>> On 8/19/2016 7:38 PM, John Coyle wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Mark - can do in a day or so, but the MZ-S is currently loaded with >>>>> film: expect to clear it >>>>> soon, if that's Ok. (yes, I know I can unload and reload to the same >>>>> frame!). >>>>> >>>>> John in Brisbane >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark C >>>>> Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2016 09:14 >>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> Subject: For MZ-S Owners >>>>> >>>>> If anyone on the list has an MZ-S, would you mind sending me a close up >>>>> picture of the pressure >>>>> roller that sits over the film uptake socket? It is a two part roller - >>>>> some how today when I >>>>> inserted a roll of film the outer roller broke free. >>>>> >>>>> The film made a bad noise when taking up the leader and when I opened >>>>> the >>>>> camera to see what was >>>>> going on, the outer roller was just sitting on top of the roll of film. >>>>> I'm not sure if that roller >>>>> is even needed, but I saved it and would like to try re-attaching it if >>>>> possible. I am not even sure >>>>> I have all the parts. I reloaded the roll with the camera as is and it >>>>> seems to be working fine, but >>>>> I won't know till I shoot it out and develop if it is working OK. I'm >>>>> thinking the film might not >>>>> lie flat or maybe the partial roller mechanism would scratch the film. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> PDML@pdml.net >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>> follow the directions. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> PDML@pdml.net >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>> follow the directions. >> >> >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For MZ-S Owners
I totally forgot! I will try to remember today. Glad its working though!! On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:28 PM, Mark C wrote: > Thanks, Zos. I tested the camera with the one remaining roller and it seems > to work just fine. I'm not sure if I even need to try and repair it, but it > may be as simple as just snapping the loose part back into place. > > Here are photos of the roller as it is now and the part that broke off: > > http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/mz-s-film-roller?blog=9 > > IIRC the broken off piece wraps around the first roller, so both press of > the film. I haven't figured out how it snaps on though - maybe another part > got lost when I opened the camera. > > Thanks > > Mark > > > On 8/22/2016 10:19 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: >> >> i can do this when i get home if it helps. sorry i didn't see this >> earlier. >> >> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Mark C wrote: >>> >>> That would be great - I want to test it without the missing part and see >>> if >>> it makes a difference anyhow. Many thanks! >>> >>> >>> On 8/19/2016 7:38 PM, John Coyle wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Mark - can do in a day or so, but the MZ-S is currently loaded with >>>> film: expect to clear it >>>> soon, if that's Ok. (yes, I know I can unload and reload to the same >>>> frame!). >>>> >>>> John in Brisbane >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark C >>>> Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2016 09:14 >>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> Subject: For MZ-S Owners >>>> >>>> If anyone on the list has an MZ-S, would you mind sending me a close up >>>> picture of the pressure >>>> roller that sits over the film uptake socket? It is a two part roller - >>>> some how today when I >>>> inserted a roll of film the outer roller broke free. >>>> >>>> The film made a bad noise when taking up the leader and when I opened >>>> the >>>> camera to see what was >>>> going on, the outer roller was just sitting on top of the roll of film. >>>> I'm not sure if that roller >>>> is even needed, but I saved it and would like to try re-attaching it if >>>> possible. I am not even sure >>>> I have all the parts. I reloaded the roll with the camera as is and it >>>> seems to be working fine, but >>>> I won't know till I shoot it out and develop if it is working OK. I'm >>>> thinking the film might not >>>> lie flat or maybe the partial roller mechanism would scratch the film. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> PDML@pdml.net >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>> follow the directions. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For MZ-S Owners
Thanks, Zos. I tested the camera with the one remaining roller and it seems to work just fine. I'm not sure if I even need to try and repair it, but it may be as simple as just snapping the loose part back into place. Here are photos of the roller as it is now and the part that broke off: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/mz-s-film-roller?blog=9 IIRC the broken off piece wraps around the first roller, so both press of the film. I haven't figured out how it snaps on though - maybe another part got lost when I opened the camera. Thanks Mark On 8/22/2016 10:19 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: i can do this when i get home if it helps. sorry i didn't see this earlier. On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Mark C wrote: That would be great - I want to test it without the missing part and see if it makes a difference anyhow. Many thanks! On 8/19/2016 7:38 PM, John Coyle wrote: Hi Mark - can do in a day or so, but the MZ-S is currently loaded with film: expect to clear it soon, if that's Ok. (yes, I know I can unload and reload to the same frame!). John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark C Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2016 09:14 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: For MZ-S Owners If anyone on the list has an MZ-S, would you mind sending me a close up picture of the pressure roller that sits over the film uptake socket? It is a two part roller - some how today when I inserted a roll of film the outer roller broke free. The film made a bad noise when taking up the leader and when I opened the camera to see what was going on, the outer roller was just sitting on top of the roll of film. I'm not sure if that roller is even needed, but I saved it and would like to try re-attaching it if possible. I am not even sure I have all the parts. I reloaded the roll with the camera as is and it seems to be working fine, but I won't know till I shoot it out and develop if it is working OK. I'm thinking the film might not lie flat or maybe the partial roller mechanism would scratch the film. Thanks! Mark --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For MZ-S Owners
i can do this when i get home if it helps. sorry i didn't see this earlier. On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Mark C wrote: > That would be great - I want to test it without the missing part and see if > it makes a difference anyhow. Many thanks! > > > On 8/19/2016 7:38 PM, John Coyle wrote: >> >> Hi Mark - can do in a day or so, but the MZ-S is currently loaded with >> film: expect to clear it >> soon, if that's Ok. (yes, I know I can unload and reload to the same >> frame!). >> >> John in Brisbane >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark C >> Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2016 09:14 >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: For MZ-S Owners >> >> If anyone on the list has an MZ-S, would you mind sending me a close up >> picture of the pressure >> roller that sits over the film uptake socket? It is a two part roller - >> some how today when I >> inserted a roll of film the outer roller broke free. >> >> The film made a bad noise when taking up the leader and when I opened the >> camera to see what was >> going on, the outer roller was just sitting on top of the roll of film. >> I'm not sure if that roller >> is even needed, but I saved it and would like to try re-attaching it if >> possible. I am not even sure >> I have all the parts. I reloaded the roll with the camera as is and it >> seems to be working fine, but >> I won't know till I shoot it out and develop if it is working OK. I'm >> thinking the film might not >> lie flat or maybe the partial roller mechanism would scratch the film. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For MZ-S Owners
That would be great - I want to test it without the missing part and see if it makes a difference anyhow. Many thanks! On 8/19/2016 7:38 PM, John Coyle wrote: Hi Mark - can do in a day or so, but the MZ-S is currently loaded with film: expect to clear it soon, if that's Ok. (yes, I know I can unload and reload to the same frame!). John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark C Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2016 09:14 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: For MZ-S Owners If anyone on the list has an MZ-S, would you mind sending me a close up picture of the pressure roller that sits over the film uptake socket? It is a two part roller - some how today when I inserted a roll of film the outer roller broke free. The film made a bad noise when taking up the leader and when I opened the camera to see what was going on, the outer roller was just sitting on top of the roll of film. I'm not sure if that roller is even needed, but I saved it and would like to try re-attaching it if possible. I am not even sure I have all the parts. I reloaded the roll with the camera as is and it seems to be working fine, but I won't know till I shoot it out and develop if it is working OK. I'm thinking the film might not lie flat or maybe the partial roller mechanism would scratch the film. Thanks! Mark --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: For MZ-S Owners
Hi Mark - can do in a day or so, but the MZ-S is currently loaded with film: expect to clear it soon, if that's Ok. (yes, I know I can unload and reload to the same frame!). John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark C Sent: Saturday, 20 August 2016 09:14 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: For MZ-S Owners If anyone on the list has an MZ-S, would you mind sending me a close up picture of the pressure roller that sits over the film uptake socket? It is a two part roller - some how today when I inserted a roll of film the outer roller broke free. The film made a bad noise when taking up the leader and when I opened the camera to see what was going on, the outer roller was just sitting on top of the roll of film. I'm not sure if that roller is even needed, but I saved it and would like to try re-attaching it if possible. I am not even sure I have all the parts. I reloaded the roll with the camera as is and it seems to be working fine, but I won't know till I shoot it out and develop if it is working OK. I'm thinking the film might not lie flat or maybe the partial roller mechanism would scratch the film. Thanks! Mark --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
For MZ-S Owners
If anyone on the list has an MZ-S, would you mind sending me a close up picture of the pressure roller that sits over the film uptake socket? It is a two part roller - some how today when I inserted a roll of film the outer roller broke free. The film made a bad noise when taking up the leader and when I opened the camera to see what was going on, the outer roller was just sitting on top of the roll of film. I'm not sure if that roller is even needed, but I saved it and would like to try re-attaching it if possible. I am not even sure I have all the parts. I reloaded the roll with the camera as is and it seems to be working fine, but I won't know till I shoot it out and develop if it is working OK. I'm thinking the film might not lie flat or maybe the partial roller mechanism would scratch the film. Thanks! Mark --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
For Sale:DA 16-45/4, K 28/3.5 Shift, FA 20-35/4 & MZ-S
HI All, Well, not a lot of interest from my last message. If you feel I have an over-enthusiastic idea of what an item is worth then feel free to make me an offer. Anything I don't sell here will be on e-Bay this week-end. Feel free to ask for more information or more pictures. Prices include delivery worldwide via Express Post International to meet Paypal’s tracking rule. Payment via Paypal or direct bank deposit to an Australian account. Pentax FA 20-35/4 AL lens in excellent condition. It has been used exclusively with a protective skylight filter (which has been taken off for the pictures of the lens. It also doesn't fit in the original packaging so will be packed separately). The soft case has been kept in a cupboard holding various lens hoods and as a result is also in excellent condition. Includes front and rear lens caps and original packaging. US$400 Front: http://www.bluering.org.au/leon/ForSale/20090606Lenses9800.jpg Side with accessories: http://www.bluering.org.au/leon/ForSale/20090606Lenses9804.jpg DA 16-45/4 AL ED lens in excellent condition. It has been used almost exclusively with a protective skylight filter (which has been taken off for the pictures of the lens. It also doesn't fit in the original packaging so will be packed separately). In Includes front and rear lens caps and original packaging. US$320 Front: http://www.bluering.org.au/leon/ForSale/20090606Lenses9807.jpg Side with box: http://www.bluering.org.au/leon/ForSale/20090606Lenses9809.jpg K 28/3.5 Shift lens that is optically perfect and mechanically very good, but has had a hard life including being dropped and has a dented filter ring/hood and no front lens cap. US$700 Front: http://www.bluering.org.au/leon/ForSale/20090606Lenses9786.jpg Side: http://www.bluering.org.au/leon/ForSale/20090606Lenses9787.jpg With case: http://www.bluering.org.au/leon/ForSale/20090606Lenses9798.jpg Pentax MZ-S Quartz Date. It has a bit of brassing on the hot shoe, the lens mount is slightly scratched from many lens changes and one of the rubber covers for the battery grip contacts is missing. Otherwise in very good condition. Includes body cap, manual and original packaging. US$420 Front: http://www.bluering.org.au/leon/ForSale/20090606Camera9813.jpg Base: http://www.bluering.org.au/leon/ForSale/20090606Camera9815.jpg Hotshoe: http://www.bluering.org.au/leon/ForSale/20090606Camera9816.jpg -- Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: mmmmm.... MZ-S
Yes, you're limited (just as SuperA) to TV and Program modes. Yes DFA includes aperture rings but DFA is dead, IMO. DA*200/300 are FF lenses. They do not include aperture rings however. The DA*55 may be as well btw. On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Desjardins, Steve wrote: > I've used my MZ-S with the DA 40. You can get by with the single wheel but > it is annoying. OTOH, full auto works fine. > > -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Peter > Alling > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 10:48 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: m MZ-S > > > The D-FA specification still includes aperture rings, (subject to change > without notice of course). > > -Original Message- >>From: Thibouille >>Sent: Feb 1, 2009 10:20 AM >>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>Subject: Re: m MZ-S >> >>No, if only because lenses do not have aperture rings anymore. But >>they could build around it, indeed. >> >>On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Mark Erickson wrote: >>> I have an MZ-S that I haven't used much since I went digital. I picked it >>> up the other day. Man, what a nice, nice camera. I really wish that Pentax >>> would release a DSLR based on that body. >>> >>> Maybe the time for the MZ-D has come? Full frame chips are "plentiful" (at >>> least compared to 2002) >>> >>> --Mark >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> >> >>-- >>Thibault Massart aka Thibouille >>-- >>Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... >>Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB >>Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) >> >>-- >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>PDML@pdml.net >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >>the directions. > > > -- > I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like > the passengers in his car... > > Will Shriner > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > > !SIG:4985c434119221631845884! > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: mmmmm.... MZ-S
I've used my MZ-S with the DA 40. You can get by with the single wheel but it is annoying. OTOH, full auto works fine. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Peter Alling Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 10:48 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: m.... MZ-S The D-FA specification still includes aperture rings, (subject to change without notice of course). -Original Message- >From: Thibouille >Sent: Feb 1, 2009 10:20 AM >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: m MZ-S > >No, if only because lenses do not have aperture rings anymore. But >they could build around it, indeed. > >On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Mark Erickson wrote: >> I have an MZ-S that I haven't used much since I went digital. I picked it >> up the other day. Man, what a nice, nice camera. I really wish that Pentax >> would release a DSLR based on that body. >> >> Maybe the time for the MZ-D has come? Full frame chips are "plentiful" (at >> least compared to 2002) >> >> --Mark >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > >-- >Thibault Massart aka Thibouille >-- >Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... >Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB >Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:4985c434119221631845884! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: mmmmm.... MZ-S
The D-FA specification still includes aperture rings, (subject to change without notice of course). -Original Message- >From: Thibouille >Sent: Feb 1, 2009 10:20 AM >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: mmmmm MZ-S > >No, if only because lenses do not have aperture rings anymore. But >they could build around it, indeed. > >On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Mark Erickson wrote: >> I have an MZ-S that I haven't used much since I went digital. I picked it >> up the other day. Man, what a nice, nice camera. I really wish that Pentax >> would release a DSLR based on that body. >> >> Maybe the time for the MZ-D has come? Full frame chips are "plentiful" (at >> least compared to 2002) >> >> --Mark >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > >-- >Thibault Massart aka Thibouille >-- >Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... >Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB >Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >the directions. -- I want to die peacfuly in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming like the passengers in his car... Will Shriner -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: mmmmm.... MZ-S
No, if only because lenses do not have aperture rings anymore. But they could build around it, indeed. On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Mark Erickson wrote: > I have an MZ-S that I haven't used much since I went digital. I picked it > up the other day. Man, what a nice, nice camera. I really wish that Pentax > would release a DSLR based on that body. > > Maybe the time for the MZ-D has come? Full frame chips are "plentiful" (at > least compared to 2002) > > --Mark > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: mmmmm.... MZ-S
At 9:10 PM -0800 1/30/09, Mark Erickson wrote: I have an MZ-S that I haven't used much since I went digital. I picked it up the other day. Man, what a nice, nice camera. I really wish that Pentax would release a DSLR based on that body. Maybe the time for the MZ-D has come? Full frame chips are "plentiful" (at least compared to 2002) That would be great! It's a really nice camera, ergonomically. I've had mine for 4 years, now and it's still my prime camera, despite getting an *istD in 2006. I just got back a roll of film, though, and checking the leader I see that it was only the 92nd I've put through it in all that time. I would have thought it would have been more... -- Steve Sharpe d...@ns.sympatico.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
mmmmm.... MZ-S
I have an MZ-S that I haven't used much since I went digital. I picked it up the other day. Man, what a nice, nice camera. I really wish that Pentax would release a DSLR based on that body. Maybe the time for the MZ-D has come? Full frame chips are "plentiful" (at least compared to 2002) --Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS Friday MZ-S with grip
Hi all, I am selling a MZ-S body with grip very low shots with it. Includes box and papers. If interested please email me privately to my email or to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am located in Puerto Rico and I can mail it by US Mail, or FedEx. I am asking $400.00 or best offer. I can provide pictures if requested, just give me some time for that. Angel Ramos Arecibo, Puerto Rico -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
Thanks to everyone who gave me information and advice, you have helped me to make a decision. As the K20D is still a bit expensive for me, I have ordered a lightly used K10D Grand Prix Edition and I am looking forward to its arrival. It comes with a DA 18-55 mm. which I don't need, as I already have one. Is anyone interested in buying such lens (LN, boxed) for 50 euros plus shipping expenses? Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
On 25/02/08, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: >All >other things equal, I would probably wait for prices to come down >when they announce the next camera (and use some frequent-flyer miles >to go watch Cotty do his thing with his hat.) Stan, it's worrying that your government has so many dreamers working for it !! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
Did you call? Sorry, have been snoozing here. But I think you said something about people wanting to buy one or two of my K10D's? I'll be right down to take care of that... Seriously, I am very conflicted on this one. I am thinking I might get one K20D, keep one of the K10D's for a backup. But for the price of the new camera I could buy a new laptop to replace my 6-year old one. Or buy the DA*60-200 if it is ever produced. I like what I hear about the new camera but haven't convinced myself that I need it. All other things equal, I would probably wait for prices to come down when they announce the next camera (and use some frequent-flyer miles to go watch Cotty do his thing with his hat.) But I do have one week in Costa Rica in early June, and it would be a shame to buy a new camera right after such a trip... (Back to snoozing.) stan On Feb 25, 2008, at 9:34 AM, Thibouille wrote: > Carlos, you may have not to wait too long if you wanna buy a K10D new. > You are not the only one wanting to snag a pretty nice deal out of > K10D lasting stock. > > Second hand should OK, sourcing from the guys ditching the K10D for > a K20D ;) > -- > Thibault Massart aka Thibouille > -- > Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... > Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB > Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
On Feb 25, 2008, at 9:34, Thibouille wrote: > Second hand should OK, sourcing from the guys ditching the K10D for > a K20D ;) ...which is my plan, at this point. :-) Fingers crossed! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
Carlos, you may have not to wait too long if you wanna buy a K10D new. You are not the only one wanting to snam a pretty nice deal out of K10D lasting stock. Second hand should OK, sourcing from the guys ditching the K10D for a K20D ;) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
Boris Liberman escribió: > Carlos, I agree with Godfrey to that end that the precision of exposure > matters more and more as ISO grows. > > Generally I shoot between ISO 100 and ISO 320. I used to avoid ISO 640 > and up but most recent shooting during that rock show proved me wrong. I > have received some quite good shots IQ-wise. > > It also depends on the mastery of post-processing, which of course is a > limitless sky. > Thanks Boris and Godfrey for your comments on high ISO and the K10D. I sometimes use ISO 800 (and sparsely 1600) with the DS when I'm shooting indoors in order to get enough shutter speed to avoid camera shake. Results at 800 are really good, the DS shines at that ISO speed, and they are good at 1600 if correctly exposed like you say. The K10D has the advantage to allow the user to select the ISO speed in finer steps, and that sounds attractive to me. I am more and more inclined to get a K10D because know it can be bought new at very good prices, in fact it is the biggest bargain in the market now, in my view. It won't be as hot as the K20D, but I think it may serve me well in the years to come. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
Carlos, I agree with Godfrey to that end that the precision of exposure matters more and more as ISO grows. Generally I shoot between ISO 100 and ISO 320. I used to avoid ISO 640 and up but most recent shooting during that rock show proved me wrong. I have received some quite good shots IQ-wise. It also depends on the mastery of post-processing, which of course is a limitless sky. Boris Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > I've always found the K10D to be about on par with the DS. It has > better dynamic range at ISO 1600 but a slightly noisier appearance if > you don't get the exposure right on the money. Others have complained > bitterly about noise, pattern artifacts, etc etc, but I've not seen > them in my work. > > I find the K10D to be cleaner than the DS at ISO 800, which most of > the time is as high as I use. > > The DS' ISO 3200 setting I only used a couple of times ... it simply > wasn't very usable at all for my work. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
I've never owned a DS, but I have owned a pair of *istD cameras. And I now use a K10D. The K10D is capable of focusing in low-light situations where the D failed me. I also find it's able to stop action with continuous autofocus much better than the D. I would guess that indicates that it's faster. I'd still like better autofocus performance, but the K10D is much more useful than the D in this regard. Again, I haven't tried a DS. I suspect that it's the same as the D. Paul On Feb 24, 2008, at 9:30 AM, Jack Davis wrote: > Carlos, > If you'd be interested in a general impression. Based solely on my > recollection of the focusing speed of the MZ-S (sold in the fall of > '07), I'd have to say that the K10D is certainly no slower and it > wouldn't surprise me if it were slightly faster. > I have no sense of the difference with regard to their relative focus > performance at various light levels. > > Jack > --- Carlos Royo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Boris Liberman escribió: >>> Carlos, the best way to proceed for you, I think, is to arrange for >>> simultaneous demonstration. >>> >> >> >> Thanks for your answer, Boris. I have tried a K10D in a shop, with >> the >> kit lens, but I'm afraid that using it with the kit lens for a pair >> of >> minutes isn't a meaningful test, at least in my view. At least it >> gives >> you a feeling on how the body fits in your hands, though. If I were >> Ken >> Rockwell, it would be the most extensive in-deep test he's ever done >> and >> I would be able to write one of his very informative reviews, but I >> haven't got his skills and profound knowledge ;-) >> >> That's why I am hopeful that someone in the PDML who has used or >> still >> uses both cameras can enlighten me. >> >>> There are cases when I find K10D AF lacking in speed and >> mechanical >>> hmmm prowess, so to say. >>> >> >> Can you elaborate a bit more on this, if it is possible? Thanks. >> >> Carlos >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >> and follow the directions. >> > > > > > __ > __ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/ > newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
Cotty wrote: >On 24/02/08, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed: >>I have a MZ-S, a *ist D, DS, K10D and a very understanding wife. > >Mark. What? Oh, yeah. ZX-5, LX, MZ-S, *ist-Ds, K10D. Yep, I have an understanding wife, too -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
Jim King escribió: > Carlos Royo wrote on Sun, 24 Feb 2008 09:56:05 -0800 >> Thanks Boris, Steve, Jack, Thibouille, Paul and everyone who is >> contributing to this thread. Your answers are very useful, the PDML >> is a >> great place to stay in, full of nice people. I should have posted >> this >> question before instead of debating myself for days. >> >> The second part of the question would be: What do you think about the >> high ISO performance of the K10D? Is it much worse than the D or DS? > > Carlos, I have posted some test images comparing the noise performance > of my *ist-D, K10D and K20D at all ISOs here: > http://homepage.mac.com/WebObjects/FileSharing.woa/wa/default?user=jamesk8752&templatefn=FileSharing1.html&xmlfn=TKDocument.1.xml&sitefn=RootSite.xml > > Hopefully these will allow you to draw your own conclusion. > Thanks Jim, I'm downloading your photos and so far the K10D at ISO 800 and 1600 doesn't look much noisier than the D. The K20D looks even better, but right now is out of my price range. Who knows in the future... Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
Godfrey DiGiorgi escribió: > On Feb 24, 2008, at 9:53 AM, Carlos Royo wrote: > >> Thanks Boris, Steve, Jack, Thibouille, Paul and everyone who is >> contributing to this thread. Your answers are very useful, the PDML >> is a >> great place to stay in, full of nice people. I should have posted >> this >> question before instead of debating myself for days. >> >> The second part of the question would be: What do you think about the >> high ISO performance of the K10D? Is it much worse than the D or DS? > > I've always found the K10D to be about on par with the DS. It has > better dynamic range at ISO 1600 but a slightly noisier appearance if > you don't get the exposure right on the money. Others have complained > bitterly about noise, pattern artifacts, etc etc, but I've not seen > them in my work. > > I find the K10D to be cleaner than the DS at ISO 800, which most of > the time is as high as I use. > > The DS' ISO 3200 setting I only used a couple of times ... it simply > wasn't very usable at all for my work. > Thanks Godfrey. As you say, ISO 3200 in the DS is only useful for emergencies. I was more interested in ISO 1600 performance, and your information is what I needed. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
On Feb 24, 2008, at 9:53 AM, Carlos Royo wrote: > Thanks Boris, Steve, Jack, Thibouille, Paul and everyone who is > contributing to this thread. Your answers are very useful, the PDML > is a > great place to stay in, full of nice people. I should have posted > this > question before instead of debating myself for days. > > The second part of the question would be: What do you think about the > high ISO performance of the K10D? Is it much worse than the D or DS? I've always found the K10D to be about on par with the DS. It has better dynamic range at ISO 1600 but a slightly noisier appearance if you don't get the exposure right on the money. Others have complained bitterly about noise, pattern artifacts, etc etc, but I've not seen them in my work. I find the K10D to be cleaner than the DS at ISO 800, which most of the time is as high as I use. The DS' ISO 3200 setting I only used a couple of times ... it simply wasn't very usable at all for my work. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
Carlos Royo wrote on Sun, 24 Feb 2008 09:56:05 -0800 > Thanks Boris, Steve, Jack, Thibouille, Paul and everyone who is > contributing to this thread. Your answers are very useful, the PDML > is a > great place to stay in, full of nice people. I should have posted > this > question before instead of debating myself for days. > > The second part of the question would be: What do you think about the > high ISO performance of the K10D? Is it much worse than the D or DS? Carlos, I have posted some test images comparing the noise performance of my *ist-D, K10D and K20D at all ISOs here: http://homepage.mac.com/WebObjects/FileSharing.woa/wa/default?user=jamesk8752&templatefn=FileSharing1.html&xmlfn=TKDocument.1.xml&sitefn=RootSite.xml Hopefully these will allow you to draw your own conclusion. Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
Thanks Boris, Steve, Jack, Thibouille, Paul and everyone who is contributing to this thread. Your answers are very useful, the PDML is a great place to stay in, full of nice people. I should have posted this question before instead of debating myself for days. The second part of the question would be: What do you think about the high ISO performance of the K10D? Is it much worse than the D or DS? Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
Steve Desjardins escribió: > I have a MZ-S, a *ist D, DS, K10D and a very understanding wife Thanks for all the info, Steve. It is quite interesting and will helpe me make my mind. And I also have a very understanding wife, in fact she has been insistently telling me to buy the camera, but I always take my time to see all the fors and againsts before taking a decision. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
On Feb 24, 2008, at 9:01 AM, Cotty wrote: >> I have a MZ-S, a *ist D, DS, K10D and a very understanding wife. > > Mark. I understand he has one too. But does it help with auto focus? ]'-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
On 24/02/08, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed: >I have a MZ-S, a *ist D, DS, K10D and a very understanding wife. Mark. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
I have a MZ-S, a *ist D, DS, K10D and a very understanding wife. I agree with the center sensor hypothesis suggested by Boris. When set to center only (as I frequently do), AF speeds are very close. The K10D seems to be right on par with the MZ-S if not better. Also, the DSLRs all had cross sensors unlike the MZ-S. I remember having to tilt the MZ-S on occasion to get it to settle down when the subject had a distinct horizontal or vertical pattern. The K10D is definitely better than the DS with regard to AF, IQ, and build quality. BTW, I really did like my DS and it took much abuse and worked fine. It's currently off on a trip with a firend whose Nikon broke right before she left for Budapest. I have some sympathy for the concern about the proprietary battery. It does work well but unfortunately I have misplaced the charger. If it doesn't turn up very soon I'll have to drop $25-35 on a new generic version. >>> "Boris Liberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2/24/2008 9:32 AM >>> I should add, that recently I've been playing a bit. Although trivial, but it appears that if I force only center sensor to be used in AF'ing then of course it seems that AF becomes faster. As far as I remember MZ-S has less AF sensors than K10D. So perhaps it plays a certain role in the equation. Of course arranged comparison/test would be in order here. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47c1810069103172117797! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
Carlos, I never tried an MZ-S unfortunately but.. * I think the istD (a camera I owned) and istDS (the one you own) is really identical, if I'm not mistaken. * the K10D AF is way faster than istD AF, just not even comparable. I dunno how those compare to the MZ-S however. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
Carlos, If you'd be interested in a general impression. Based solely on my recollection of the focusing speed of the MZ-S (sold in the fall of '07), I'd have to say that the K10D is certainly no slower and it wouldn't surprise me if it were slightly faster. I have no sense of the difference with regard to their relative focus performance at various light levels. Jack --- Carlos Royo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Boris Liberman escribió: > > Carlos, the best way to proceed for you, I think, is to arrange for > > simultaneous demonstration. > > > > > Thanks for your answer, Boris. I have tried a K10D in a shop, with > the > kit lens, but I'm afraid that using it with the kit lens for a pair > of > minutes isn't a meaningful test, at least in my view. At least it > gives > you a feeling on how the body fits in your hands, though. If I were > Ken > Rockwell, it would be the most extensive in-deep test he's ever done > and > I would be able to write one of his very informative reviews, but I > haven't got his skills and profound knowledge ;-) > > That's why I am hopeful that someone in the PDML who has used or > still > uses both cameras can enlighten me. > > > There are cases when I find K10D AF lacking in speed and > mechanical > > hmmm prowess, so to say. > > > > Can you elaborate a bit more on this, if it is possible? Thanks. > > Carlos > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
I should add, that recently I've been playing a bit. Although trivial, but it appears that if I force only center sensor to be used in AF'ing then of course it seems that AF becomes faster. As far as I remember MZ-S has less AF sensors than K10D. So perhaps it plays a certain role in the equation. Of course arranged comparison/test would be in order here. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
Carlos Royo escribió: > > Some of you will remember, perhaps, that I also use two MZ-S bodies. The > MZ-S AF performance (SAFOX IV) is much, much better, both in speed and > low light focusing, than the *ist DS AF. Obviously, I would like to know > how the K10D compares to the MZ-S with regard to AF performance. > There's a typo in what I wrote (damned Roman numbers). The AF system in the MZ-S is SAFOX VII, not IV. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
I used MZ-S only briefly for one day back in 2004 in Norway. Prior to that I used Z-1 for one day. I found that I liked the hmmm muscularity of Z-1 more than gentle intelligence of MZ-S (for lack of better words for comparison). The problem with K10D AF (at least with my sample) that sometimes (rarely but not negligibly) it seems to reach the point of focus but electronics and software don't confirm it. So I have to let go of shutter button and half press it again. Of course there are cases when it would cost me a shot. In fact, I am pondering if I should submit my camera for CLA of some kind (mostly A - Adjust) as long as the warranty lasts. I do think that out of all the bodies I handled in the past, Z-1 has the strongest AF motor. And I think this is what ultimately matters - the strength of AF motor. To that end K20D may be the best Pentax DSLR ever yet. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
Boris Liberman escribió: > Carlos, the best way to proceed for you, I think, is to arrange for > simultaneous demonstration. > Thanks for your answer, Boris. I have tried a K10D in a shop, with the kit lens, but I'm afraid that using it with the kit lens for a pair of minutes isn't a meaningful test, at least in my view. At least it gives you a feeling on how the body fits in your hands, though. If I were Ken Rockwell, it would be the most extensive in-deep test he's ever done and I would be able to write one of his very informative reviews, but I haven't got his skills and profound knowledge ;-) That's why I am hopeful that someone in the PDML who has used or still uses both cameras can enlighten me. > There are cases when I find K10D AF lacking in speed and mechanical > hmmm prowess, so to say. > Can you elaborate a bit more on this, if it is possible? Thanks. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
Carlos, the best way to proceed for you, I think, is to arrange for simultaneous demonstration. There are cases when I find K10D AF lacking in speed and mechanical hmmm prowess, so to say. HTH. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Need info on K10D AF vs. MZ-S
I am debating if I should buy a K10D (I have an *ist DS) or not. I like the two dials of the K10D (I miss that feature since I sold my Z-1), SR, SDM compatibility, weather sealing and the flexibility given by the configuration options of the K10D. On the other hand, my DS gives me a clean 1600 ISO and 3200 if needed and uses AA batteries. Some of you will remember, perhaps, that I also use two MZ-S bodies. The MZ-S AF performance (SAFOX IV) is much, much better, both in speed and low light focusing, than the *ist DS AF. Obviously, I would like to know how the K10D compares to the MZ-S with regard to AF performance. Hopefully, some of you may have used both cameras (K10D and MZ-S) and can give me first hand information to help me solve this quandary. I was going to post this same question in the DePressingReviews forum, but I have come to my senses and stopped at the last moment. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS: MZ-S plus BG-10 grip, MZ-5 plus battery pack
I know I am late (or early, it depends) as it is not Friday, but I hope you will forgive me. I have 5 Pentax film SLRs and unfortunately I don't use them a lot lately, so I want to sell a pair of them. Firstly, an MZ-S body with very little signs of use, plus the nice BG-10 grip which adds the capability to use AA batteries, plus a second shutter button, infrared remote receiver, etc. The MZ-S is an excellent camera, in many ways the best AF SLR Pentax has made. 450 euros plus shipping expenses. Secondly, an MZ-5 body in excellent condition, also with little signs of use, boxed with its original accessories an instruction manual (Spanish), plus a boxed Fg battery pack, which allows the use of AA batteries, and an F wired remote release. 100 euros plus shipping expenses. If someone is interested, please send a message to my e-mail box, not the list. Thank you for your attention. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
FS Friday: MZ-S, tripod heads and misc
For sale: a. MZ-S + grip with original box, strap, manual, etc. Good condition. $500 including insured shipping in U.S. b. Non-functional (?) X-Drive portable drive mechanism for down- loading CF or SD cards in the field. Has internal rechargeable battery, charger included, as is the case and USB for connecting to your computer. Notes: This is the shell only. The drive I had in it went bad (after 4 years of use in my laptop and 2 years in the X- Drive), the replacement worked for a year or so, then the whole thing stopped working. Is it dead? Does it need a new battery? You pays your money and takes your chances. You pay $6 for shipping in U.S.; if you get it working, send me another $10-20 if you feel like it. c. Non-functional (?) PD-7x portable drive mechanism for down-loading CF or SD cards in the field. Basically NIB. Notes: this is a shell only. I installed a 100GB 2.5 inch drive (since removed) but never got it to work. This is a newer generation version of the X-Drive above, uses 4 AA batteries in lieu of the internal rechargeable. You pay $6 for shipping in U.S.; if you get it working, send me another $20-30 if you feel like it. http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/eBay/PD7x-c.JPG http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/eBay/PD7x-b.JPG http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/eBay/PD7x-a.JPG d. Bogen Manfrotto 3030 tripod head. http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/eBay/Bogen3030a.JPG http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/eBay/Bogen3030b.JPG http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/eBay/Bogen3030c.JPG Used but in good condition. As I mentioned in a recent thread, I replaced this with a Kirk ballhead with Swiss-Arca style QR plates. $55 including shipping in U.S. e. Bogen Manfrotto simple tripod head. Am not sure what this one is called; it is a simple small flat QR platform. I used it on top of my monopod when I was carrying two cameras and wanted to quickly swap cameras on the monopod. http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/eBay/Bogen-a.JPG http://home.earthlink.net/~smh645/eBay/Bogen-b.JPG Includes 2 QR plates. $25 including shipping in U.S. For auction: I have listed 5 lenses that will show up on eBay between 1830 and 1900 Pacific Time this evening; look for listings by my user name: stanh - PKA-20/2.8 - PK-24/2.8 - PKA-100/2.8 Macro - PK-120/2.8 - Vivitar 100/3.5 Macro Bid early and bid often! For questions etc. contact me off-list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S/MR-52 Reserected as K1!
If Pentax introduce a K1D with that design, I will buy one. It still kicks ass years later. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S/MR-52 Reserected as K1!
On 02/05/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MR-52 was supposedly the internal Pentax designation "MZ-D" Just as the KB421 is the K10D -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://picasaweb.google.com/distudio/PESO http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S/MR-52 Reserected as K1!
I have a strong feeling it's an official fake. I think K1 to be a posthumous name put by Pentax on their MR-52 prototype (which at that time had very likely to be marketed as the MZ-D), just to support their current camera line. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S/MR-52 Reserected as K1!
MR-52 was supposedly the internal Pentax designation "MZ-D" Peter Lacus wrote: >> http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/other/2006/02/17/3233.html >> > > looks "quite similar" to "MZ-D" prototype to me, see Boz's site... > > Cheers, > > Peter > > -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S/MR-52 Reserected as K1!
MZ-D was never an official name. It may well have been named K1D at some point. Or someone might have pasted that onto the site recently. The typography does look like a bit of a paste job. The successor to the K10D is a reality, assuming Pentax remains healthy. Paul -- Original message -- From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > So all those rumors of the K1d were true, except it was a follow on for > the MZ-D. I don't know if I believe that any more than I believe that > theres a new K1d based on the K10 line in the offing. > > Perry Pellechia wrote: > > Just did a babel fish translation on the site and it appears to be a > > repost (Hall of fame entry) of the 2000 full frame camera (damn!): > > > > Special spreading/displaying exhibit Among the exhibits, here the > > digital camera is introduced on the center. > > > > - 35mm full size digital single-lens reflex camera "K-1" > > > > As for "K-1", the lens exchange type digital single-lens reflex > > camera which loads the 35mm full size image pickup element of 600 ten > > thousand pixels which are announced with the photo cinchona 2000. > > > > Succeeding design from MZ-S e.g., development can advance the > > high-class silver salt single-lens reflex camera "MZ-S" of the same > > company to the base, inclines the functional dial of substance top > > largely on photographing person side. Sale was expected. > > > > But, after that "when it commercializes, price becomes very expensive > > and marketability is low", that from the reason, abandonment of > > commercialization was announced in 2001 October. > > > > On 5/1/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Either these people know something we don't, (like that's not possible), > >> or here's a real good Photoshop job > >> > >> http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/43528-3233-7-2.html > >> > >> http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/other/2006/02/17/3233.html > >> > >> -- > >> Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf > thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf > thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S/MR-52 Reserected as K1!
This site, http://www.estiasis.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=630 has the same pictures with the English text explaining this was the unreleased full frame DSLR of yesteryear. So basically what everyone else has said. This is the old DSLR that Pentax canned. Jeff -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S/MR-52 Reserected as K1!
> http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/other/2006/02/17/3233.html looks "quite similar" to "MZ-D" prototype to me, see Boz's site... Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S/MR-52 Reserected as K1!
Ah Ha. I was positive, i had seen that K1 picture before, and now i'm sure of it. That looks about the size of the D1 and D2 Nikon series. Fits like a glove.:-) Dave On 5/1/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Either these people know something we don't, (like that's not possible), > or here's a real good Photoshop job > > http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/43528-3233-7-2.html > > http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/other/2006/02/17/3233.html > > -- > Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf > thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S/MR-52 Reserected as K1!
So all those rumors of the K1d were true, except it was a follow on for the MZ-D. I don't know if I believe that any more than I believe that theres a new K1d based on the K10 line in the offing. Perry Pellechia wrote: > Just did a babel fish translation on the site and it appears to be a > repost (Hall of fame entry) of the 2000 full frame camera (damn!): > > Special spreading/displaying exhibit Among the exhibits, here the > digital camera is introduced on the center. > > - 35mm full size digital single-lens reflex camera "K-1" > > As for "K-1", the lens exchange type digital single-lens reflex > camera which loads the 35mm full size image pickup element of 600 ten > thousand pixels which are announced with the photo cinchona 2000. > > Succeeding design from MZ-S e.g., development can advance the > high-class silver salt single-lens reflex camera "MZ-S" of the same > company to the base, inclines the functional dial of substance top > largely on photographing person side. Sale was expected. > > But, after that "when it commercializes, price becomes very expensive > and marketability is low", that from the reason, abandonment of > commercialization was announced in 2001 October. > > On 5/1/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Either these people know something we don't, (like that's not possible), >> or here's a real good Photoshop job >> >> http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/43528-3233-7-2.html >> >> http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/other/2006/02/17/3233.html >> >> -- >> Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf >> thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> > > > > -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S/MR-52 Reserected as K1!
Just did a babel fish translation on the site and it appears to be a repost (Hall of fame entry) of the 2000 full frame camera (damn!): Special spreading/displaying exhibit Among the exhibits, here the digital camera is introduced on the center. - 35mm full size digital single-lens reflex camera "K-1" As for "K-1", the lens exchange type digital single-lens reflex camera which loads the 35mm full size image pickup element of 600 ten thousand pixels which are announced with the photo cinchona 2000. Succeeding design from MZ-S e.g., development can advance the high-class silver salt single-lens reflex camera "MZ-S" of the same company to the base, inclines the functional dial of substance top largely on photographing person side. Sale was expected. But, after that "when it commercializes, price becomes very expensive and marketability is low", that from the reason, abandonment of commercialization was announced in 2001 October. On 5/1/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Either these people know something we don't, (like that's not possible), > or here's a real good Photoshop job > > http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/43528-3233-7-2.html > > http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/other/2006/02/17/3233.html > > -- > Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf > thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- <> Perry Pellechia Primary email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternate email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://homer.chem.sc.edu/perry <> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S/MR-52 Reserected as K1!
And look it has an aperture simulator! P. J. Alling wrote: > Either these people know something we don't, (like that's not possible), > or here's a real good Photoshop job > > http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/43528-3233-7-2.html > > http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/other/2006/02/17/3233.html > > -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S/MR-52 Reserected as K1!
On May 1, 2007, at 12:05 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > Either these people know something we don't, (like that's not > possible), > or here's a real good Photoshop job > > http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/ > 43528-3233-7-2.html > > http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/other/2006/02/17/3233.html This site is all about the exhibits on display at the Japanese Camera Museum. The Japanese text preceding the images of the "K-1" translated with Babelfish reads: = - 35mm full size digital single-lens reflex camera "K-1" As for "K-1", the lens exchange type digital single-lens reflex camera which loads the 35mm full size image pickup element of 600 ten thousand pixels which are announced with the photo cinchona 2000. Succeeding design from MZ-S e.g., development can advance the high- class silver salt single-lens reflex camera "MZ-S" of the same company to the base, inclines the functional dial of substance top largely on photographing person side. Sale was expected. But, after that "when it commercializes, price becomes very expensive and marketability is low", that from the reason, abandonment of commercialization was announced in 2001 October. = Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: MZ-S/MR-52 Reserected as K1!
That is the original digital SLR Pentax showed at PMA about five or six years ago. The body design was based on the MZ-S. It was semi working (I know because I had my hands on it) but never came to market. -Original Message- From: P. J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 1:06 PM To: pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: MZ-S/MR-52 Reserected as K1! Either these people know something we don't, (like that's not possible), or here's a real good Photoshop job http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/43528-3233-7-2.ht ml http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/other/2006/02/17/3233.html -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
MZ-S/MR-52 Reserected as K1!
Either these people know something we don't, (like that's not possible), or here's a real good Photoshop job http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/43528-3233-7-2.html http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/other/2006/02/17/3233.html -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S winder is buzzing
Tom One of my MZ-Ss started buzzing badly a month ago. I've put around 25 rolls through it since, with no problems. Dave - Original Message From: Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Sent: Monday, 13 November, 2006 2:23:59 PM Subject: Re: MZ-S winder is buzzing Tom, My PZ-1 did that. The film advanced fine, even though the noise was ugly. I sent the camera to Pentax, and they replaced the winder mechanism and gave it a CLA for $120 or so. Rick --- Tom Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My MZ-S has a loud buzz while winding the film. I > obviously need to ship it out for repair. Does > anyone have any guesses on the possible causes? > > I have some doubts about whether I should even > process the last roll of film. I'm wondering if it > advanced properly. > > thanks > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S and HSIE film
William, I have used my PZ1-p without a problem, and it has a plastic window. I never had a problem with it! Regards Angel Ramos Arecibo, Puerto Rico William Robb wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin Waterson" > Subject: Re: MZ-S and HSIE film > > > > >> Thankfully I always carry a K1000 with me wherever I go.. >> >> thanks for the tip, >> > > Here's another one. > It's inadvisable to use a camera with a DX window, since the foam gasket > can leak IR. > I've heard but can't confirm that some plasic backed cameras are also IR > translucent. > > William Robb > > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S and HSIE film
Hi Kevin, I tried when I got it some years ago, it does not work for IR. I then used my PZ1-p and worked fine. Regards Angel Ramos Arecibo, Puerto Rico Kevin Waterson wrote: > Does anybody know If High Speed Infrared Emulsion film can be used > with the MZ-S? > Does the internal infrared mechanism affect it? > I have a wedding to shoot tomorrow and would like to pop off a few IR > of the bride and groom. > > Kind regards > Kevin > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S and HSIE film
Digital Image Studio wrote: > On 25/11/06, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I heard the K1000 pressure plate dimles can harm HIE film. > > Not harm but since HIE has no anti-halation layer can end up being > part of the image due to reflection. > I've shot HIE in an Me-Super, LX, and Pz-1p with no problem. No special precautions on the Pz-1p WRT the window. Your comment on the lack of an anti-halation layer in HEI is right on the mark. A lot of the attributes of this film - like handling it in total darkness - that are assumed to be the result of it's IR sensitivity are really the result of it having no anti-halation layer. It 'pipes light' and if you accidentally set your camera to bulb setting in the middle of a roll (I have), you can do just as much damage or more to the roll as you can do loading it in direct sunlight. - MCC -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S and HSIE film
- Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" Subject: Re: MZ-S and HSIE film > > > I heard the K1000 pressure plate dimles can harm HIE film. Put a later of 120 backing paper over the pressure plate. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S and HSIE film
Spotties work really well. Don't forget to load and unload in the dark. I know, everyone knows that, but I am the health and safety guy at work, so.. L:-) Dave Quoting Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 11/24/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Kevin Waterson" >> Subject: Re: MZ-S and HSIE film >> >> >> >> > >> > Thankfully I always carry a K1000 with me wherever I go.. >> > >> > thanks for the tip, >> >> Here's another one. >> It's inadvisable to use a camera with a DX window, since the foam gasket >> can leak IR. >> I've heard but can't confirm that some plasic backed cameras are also IR >> translucent. >> > I shot a roll of HIE with the *ist. DX window AND IR sprocket > counter. The edge of the film exposed to the IR counter came out of > the developer black. Surprisingly, there was very little affect on > the frame itself. I couldn't tell that the DX window had an adverse > affect at all. Still, I don't think I would use that camera with that > film if I was being paid for the job. Use the K1000. > > -- > Scott Loveless > http://www.twosixteen.com > Shoot more film! > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S and HSIE film
Thanks Rob. I knew there was a snag somewere.:-) No problems shooting this film with the pz-1 and my sp500's Dave Dave Quoting Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 25/11/06, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I heard the K1000 pressure plate dimles can harm HIE film. > > Not harm but since HIE has no anti-halation layer can end up being > part of the image due to reflection. > > -- > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ > Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S and HSIE film
On 11/24/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin Waterson" > Subject: Re: MZ-S and HSIE film > > > > > > > Thankfully I always carry a K1000 with me wherever I go.. > > > > thanks for the tip, > > Here's another one. > It's inadvisable to use a camera with a DX window, since the foam gasket > can leak IR. > I've heard but can't confirm that some plasic backed cameras are also IR > translucent. > I shot a roll of HIE with the *ist. DX window AND IR sprocket counter. The edge of the film exposed to the IR counter came out of the developer black. Surprisingly, there was very little affect on the frame itself. I couldn't tell that the DX window had an adverse affect at all. Still, I don't think I would use that camera with that film if I was being paid for the job. Use the K1000. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S and HSIE film
I shot HIE film in my Contax G2, which had both a DX window and an infrared sprocket hole counter. Never bothered my photography one whit. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S and HSIE film
On 25/11/06, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I heard the K1000 pressure plate dimles can harm HIE film. Not harm but since HIE has no anti-halation layer can end up being part of the image due to reflection. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S and HSIE film
I shot a number of HIE rolls with the PZ-1. I covered the DX window with a bit of aluminum foil, just a bit bigger than the window, then covered it with a piece of electric tape. No leaks fogs etc. I heard the K1000 pressure plate dimles can harm HIE film. Dave Quoting William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > - Original Message - > From: "Kevin Waterson" > Subject: Re: MZ-S and HSIE film > > > >> >> Thankfully I always carry a K1000 with me wherever I go.. >> >> thanks for the tip, > > Here's another one. > It's inadvisable to use a camera with a DX window, since the foam gasket > can leak IR. > I've heard but can't confirm that some plasic backed cameras are also IR > translucent. > > William Robb > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S and HSIE film
- Original Message - From: "Kevin Waterson" Subject: Re: MZ-S and HSIE film > > Thankfully I always carry a K1000 with me wherever I go.. > > thanks for the tip, Here's another one. It's inadvisable to use a camera with a DX window, since the foam gasket can leak IR. I've heard but can't confirm that some plasic backed cameras are also IR translucent. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S and HSIE film
This one time, at band camp, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Use a different camera. The infared system counts sprocket holes > passing in the MZ-S. Regards, Bob S. Thankfully I always carry a K1000 with me wherever I go.. thanks for the tip, Kevin -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S and HSIE film
Use a different camera. The infared system counts sprocket holes passing in the MZ-S. Regards, Bob S. On 11/23/06, Kevin Waterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anybody know If High Speed Infrared Emulsion film can be used > with the MZ-S? > Does the internal infrared mechanism affect it? > I have a wedding to shoot tomorrow and would like to pop off a few IR > of the bride and groom. > > Kind regards > Kevin > > -- > -- > "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. > Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
MZ-S and HSIE film
Does anybody know If High Speed Infrared Emulsion film can be used with the MZ-S? Does the internal infrared mechanism affect it? I have a wedding to shoot tomorrow and would like to pop off a few IR of the bride and groom. Kind regards Kevin -- -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S winder is buzzing
Tom, My PZ-1 did that. The film advanced fine, even though the noise was ugly. I sent the camera to Pentax, and they replaced the winder mechanism and gave it a CLA for $120 or so. Rick --- Tom Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My MZ-S has a loud buzz while winding the film. I > obviously need to ship it out for repair. Does > anyone have any guesses on the possible causes? > > I have some doubts about whether I should even > process the last roll of film. I'm wondering if it > advanced properly. > > thanks > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: MZ-S winder is buzzing
- Original Message - From: "Tom Reese" Subject: MZ-S winder is buzzing > My MZ-S has a loud buzz while winding the film. I obviously need to > ship it out for repair. Does anyone have any guesses on the possible > causes? Camera makers have been using plastic drive gears for a long time as a money saving move. These gears wear out or crack over time. I suspect the MZ-S is such a camera. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
MZ-S winder is buzzing
My MZ-S has a loud buzz while winding the film. I obviously need to ship it out for repair. Does anyone have any guesses on the possible causes? I have some doubts about whether I should even process the last roll of film. I'm wondering if it advanced properly. thanks -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: In half an hour we'll know what an MZ-S is worth these days...
Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: >On Mon, 24 Jul 2006, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> Steve Sharpe wrote: >> >>> At 10:33 PM -0400 7/23/06, Mat Maessen wrote: >>>> On 7/23/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> My eBay auction is up to $611.00 with 30 minutes or so left. >>>> >>>> That's almost a K100D right there. >>>> >>>> Or maybe half of a K10D? >>> >>> Surprising how little the MZ-S has depreciated. Mine was $750 new. >> >> Well, my auction did include the battery grip, which was an additional >> $150. > >And ended at? It actually ended at $611.00 Top bidder is in Japan. I suspect a collector. -- Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: In half an hour we'll know what an MZ-S is worth these days...
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006, Mark Roberts wrote: > Steve Sharpe wrote: > >> At 10:33 PM -0400 7/23/06, Mat Maessen wrote: >>> On 7/23/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> My eBay auction is up to $611.00 with 30 minutes or so left. >>> >>> That's almost a K100D right there. >>> >>> Or maybe half of a K10D? >> >> Surprising how little the MZ-S has depreciated. Mine was $750 new. > > Well, my auction did include the battery grip, which was an additional > $150. And ended at? Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: In half an hour we'll know what an MZ-S is worth these days...
Steve Sharpe wrote: >At 10:33 PM -0400 7/23/06, Mat Maessen wrote: >>On 7/23/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> My eBay auction is up to $611.00 with 30 minutes or so left. >> >>That's almost a K100D right there. >> >>Or maybe half of a K10D? > >Surprising how little the MZ-S has depreciated. Mine was $750 new. Well, my auction did include the battery grip, which was an additional $150. -- Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: In half an hour we'll know what an MZ-S is worth these days...
Nice! I might pick one of those up later in the year if I can find a decent one at a fair price. Would make a nice addition to my hoarde. :) --- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My eBay auction is up to $611.00 with 30 minutes or > so left. > > -- > Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > 412-687-2835 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: In half an hour we'll know what an MZ-S is worth these days...
At 10:33 PM -0400 7/23/06, Mat Maessen wrote: >On 7/23/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> My eBay auction is up to $611.00 with 30 minutes or so left. > >That's almost a K100D right there. > >Or maybe half of a K10D? Surprising how little the MZ-S has depreciated. Mine was $750 new. -- Steve Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: In half an hour we'll know what an MZ-S is worth these days...
On 7/23/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My eBay auction is up to $611.00 with 30 minutes or so left. That's almost a K100D right there. Or maybe half of a K10D? -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: In half an hour we'll know what an MZ-S is worth these days...
That is very good news. Mark Roberts wrote: >My eBay auction is up to $611.00 with 30 minutes or so left. > > > -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
In half an hour we'll know what an MZ-S is worth these days...
My eBay auction is up to $611.00 with 30 minutes or so left. -- Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
FS Friday: The MZ-S is on the block (with BG-10)
After reading all the responses to my earlier message I've decided to put the MZ-S up for sale. I just learned that the new program at the arts school where I had hoped for a teaching job has been postponed by at least 6 months, so I'm going to be getting by on fairly minimal funds unless something else comes up. If that means selling a great camera that I hardly use any more, so be it. Camera is in excellent condition: LN- Includes original camera strap, manual, box and packing. BG-10 battery grip also included - I mean, what would I do with it after selling the camera? ;-) Jerome got $610 for his a couple of weeks ago, without battery grip (http://tinyurl.com/kef8d) so I'm asking $650 for mine. Delivery to Gandfather Mountain available :) If there are no takers I'll put it in eBay in a week.
Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?
Mark, I had the same dilemma for the past two or three years... basically since I bought the ist-D. However, I finally solved my problem about about 2 weeks ago: http://tinyurl.com/kef8d I just couldn't justify it anymore. Not that anyone gave a damn, but I even mentioned in the auction the extent to which selling it was a struggle. *sigh* Man, I love that camera. The MZ-S is awesome. But it had been used only ONCE since going digital, and that was admittedly 100% out of sympathy. Truth be told, I can't even tell you where the roll of film is that I ran thru it (probably in the trash, as the concept of WAITING for photos to be developed seems pretty absurd to me now... it's insanely funny how things change). In its stead, I took advantage of Pentax's current rebate program and scored a new 12-24mm DA lens (pretty much an even trade after rebate). Given my planned usage for this lens, I'm more than happy with that trade, and in all honesty, I can't say I've thought about the MZ-S once since doing so... Well, until reading your post. So much for being hard to part with. HTH, - Jerome
Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Back in late 1978, after having used my Model 1 16K computer for about a year the trend was building w/in Radio Shack to drop prices before cancelling product. I'd heard hints of the price drop so sold the computer for $700. (Paid $988 for it a year earlier, and threw in all the software I had purched.) Two weeks later RS dropped the price to $599. Boy, did I feel good. And I'll bet the buyer felt pretty bad. You went to the Mike Johnston School of Salesmanship?
Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?
I did a model shoot last Saturday with my MZ-S and that camera is a real pleasure to use. It focussed perfectly in the dim studio, my D200-using buddy was impressed with the results, and the model was pleased with the 60 prints that I gave her (my cost $0.00, since the second set was free this week; it's usually $0.99 (hmm, these computer keyboards got no cents key)). I plan to use the MZ-S for a long time to come. Pat White
Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?
When it was new it was an $800.00 to $900.00 camera. The price fell quite a bit soon after that but I was impressed with the price. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" Subject: Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S? Mark, I would guess $475 for an MZ-S recently on ebay. Certainly not more than $575. I've been watching just thinking of buying one. What did they go for when new? William Robb -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?
- Original Message - From: "Bob Sullivan" Subject: Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S? Mark, I would guess $475 for an MZ-S recently on ebay. Certainly not more than $575. I've been watching just thinking of buying one. What did they go for when new? William Robb
Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?
Mark, I would guess $475 for an MZ-S recently on ebay. Certainly not more than $575. I've been watching just thinking of buying one. Regards, Bob S. On 5/15/06, John Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I decided I'd never sell mine - like you, Mark, I think it is the epitome of Pentax cameras: well-designed, superb to use, and produces top-quality results. I took it out last month and put a film through, much to the surprise of my relatives, who'd forgotten I even had a film camera still! My four-year old granddaughters were most disappointed they couldn't chimp the images I shot! It would be worth very much less than I paid for it, and I see no good reason to get rid of it when I can see I will still use it from time to time. I think it's in the same class as my SV and K2 - too good to lose, and both of those have been used in the last year. HTH John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:53 AM Subject: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S? > It's a question I've been pondering for some time so I thought I'd > open it up to discussion and debate. Let's stir the pot, rock the > boat, muddy the waters, etc. > > Much as I love my MZ-S, I've noticed that I just don't use it any > more. I shoot digital for the most part. When I shoot film, it's > almost always B&W, which means I use the 645. And on the rare > occasions when I *do* shoot 35mm color film, I find it's the MX I > reach for. Small, light, simple, manual, unhurried, untechnological - > that's what I'm looking for on those occasions. > > So the result is that I have this superb, ergonomic, high-tech, > magnesium-bodied gem gathering dust most of the time and that bothers > me. I know there are probably photographers out there who would > actually *use* this camera. But I haven't been able to bring myself to > sell it. > > Factors making me want to keep it: > 1) I love the way it feels and works. > 2) I probably couldn't get much for it these days. > 3) It's the ultimate (in the true sense of the word) Pentax high-end > film camera. The last of a thoroughbred line. > > I should probably look around and see what used ones sell for these > days, but whether the price is high or low, it would probably make me > both happy and sad... >
Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?
I decided I'd never sell mine - like you, Mark, I think it is the epitome of Pentax cameras: well-designed, superb to use, and produces top-quality results. I took it out last month and put a film through, much to the surprise of my relatives, who'd forgotten I even had a film camera still! My four-year old granddaughters were most disappointed they couldn't chimp the images I shot! It would be worth very much less than I paid for it, and I see no good reason to get rid of it when I can see I will still use it from time to time. I think it's in the same class as my SV and K2 - too good to lose, and both of those have been used in the last year. HTH John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:53 AM Subject: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S? It's a question I've been pondering for some time so I thought I'd open it up to discussion and debate. Let's stir the pot, rock the boat, muddy the waters, etc. Much as I love my MZ-S, I've noticed that I just don't use it any more. I shoot digital for the most part. When I shoot film, it's almost always B&W, which means I use the 645. And on the rare occasions when I *do* shoot 35mm color film, I find it's the MX I reach for. Small, light, simple, manual, unhurried, untechnological - that's what I'm looking for on those occasions. So the result is that I have this superb, ergonomic, high-tech, magnesium-bodied gem gathering dust most of the time and that bothers me. I know there are probably photographers out there who would actually *use* this camera. But I haven't been able to bring myself to sell it. Factors making me want to keep it: 1) I love the way it feels and works. 2) I probably couldn't get much for it these days. 3) It's the ultimate (in the true sense of the word) Pentax high-end film camera. The last of a thoroughbred line. I should probably look around and see what used ones sell for these days, but whether the price is high or low, it would probably make me both happy and sad...
Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S?
3) It's the ultimate (in the true sense of the word) Pentax high-end film camera. The last of a thoroughbred line Probably the reason I'll never get rid of mine. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S? It's a question I've been pondering for some time so I thought I'd open it up to discussion and debate. Let's stir the pot, rock the boat, muddy the waters, etc. Much as I love my MZ-S, I've noticed that I just don't use it any more. I shoot digital for the most part. When I shoot film, it's almost always B&W, which means I use the 645. And on the rare occasions when I *do* shoot 35mm color film, I find it's the MX I reach for. Small, light, simple, manual, unhurried, untechnological - that's what I'm looking for on those occasions. So the result is that I have this superb, ergonomic, high-tech, magnesium-bodied gem gathering dust most of the time and that bothers me. I know there are probably photographers out there who would actually *use* this camera. But I haven't been able to bring myself to sell it. Factors making me want to keep it: 1) I love the way it feels and works. 2) I probably couldn't get much for it these days. 3) It's the ultimate (in the true sense of the word) Pentax high-end film camera. The last of a thoroughbred line. I should probably look around and see what used ones sell for these days, but whether the price is high or low, it would probably make me both happy and sad...
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At 03:06 PM 5/15/2006, you wrote: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 14:59:00 -0400 From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is nice lead into the B&H Catalog that came in the mail the other day. There are more 4x5 cameras in it than 35mm film cameras. There are also still quite a few 120 film cameras but not as many as in the old days. Seems that the bigger the camera the more likely it is to continue to be made. Still two pages of film although some old standbys have disappeared. Check out the price on that latest incarnation of the Leica M3, mind boggling. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" Large Format is growing faster than ever. Amazingly, Midwest can't get in enough Ebony to satisfy the demand. And these things (8x10 models) are $3500 and up. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://www.brendemuehl.net "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose" -- Jim Elliott
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My first post here. I also want to introduce myself. A long time Pentax user since my first ME & P-M 50mm f/1.7. Only taking family pictures, and not a good one at that. :} I hope that I'll hang around here awhile. Back to the topic... I notice is that many of younger generation started off with digital photography. Many of them get more into the hobby and expand their bases. Many of them move to MF, and LF for the quest of either better image quality, or different look. I still love my film cameras. But for learning and snap-shots. Nothing beats my DL. :) -Pasvorn On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:59:00PM -0400, graywolf wrote: > This is nice lead into the B&H Catalog that came in the mail the other > day. There are more 4x5 cameras in it than 35mm film cameras. There are > also still quite a few 120 film cameras but not as many as in the old > days. Seems that the bigger the camera the more likely it is to continue > to be made. Still two pages of film although some old standbys have > disappeared. Check out the price on that latest incarnation of the Leica > M3, mind boggling. > > graywolf > http://www.graywolfphoto.com > http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf > "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" > ---
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Mark, I was thinking the same thing about my LX ans 2 ZX-5n's. I took them out to test them before the sale and now I'm hooked again. Though we've all pretty much agreed that digital is in many ways superior, there is something about shooting film, and waiting for prints, that I find inexplicably enjoyable. Maybe it's simply not having a computer involved in any part of the process. Do what I did, grab a few rolls and take the thing out and use it. If it's no big thrill, sell it, prices are still very good on the -s. If, as I did, you get that odd feeling of satisfaction, keep it and enjoy it for a while yet. A body as good as the -s isn't going to lose value nearly as fast as some. eekBay right now has only 3 listed, all for almost $900.00! Don > -Original Message- > From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 11:53 AM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Question: Should I sell my MZ-S? > > > It's a question I've been pondering for some time so I thought I'd > open it up to discussion and debate. Let's stir the pot, rock the > boat, muddy the waters, etc. > > Much as I love my MZ-S, I've noticed that I just don't use it any > more. I shoot digital for the most part. When I shoot film, it's > almost always B&W, which means I use the 645. And on the rare > occasions when I *do* shoot 35mm color film, I find it's the MX I > reach for. Small, light, simple, manual, unhurried, untechnological - > that's what I'm looking for on those occasions. > > So the result is that I have this superb, ergonomic, high-tech, > magnesium-bodied gem gathering dust most of the time and that bothers > me. I know there are probably photographers out there who would > actually *use* this camera. But I haven't been able to bring myself to > sell it. > > Factors making me want to keep it: > 1) I love the way it feels and works. > 2) I probably couldn't get much for it these days. > 3) It's the ultimate (in the true sense of the word) Pentax high-end > film camera. The last of a thoroughbred line. > > I should probably look around and see what used ones sell for these > days, but whether the price is high or low, it would probably make me > both happy and sad... >
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Yes, of course you should sell it, you should sell it to me, very cheaply, say for less than $100.00 I won't necessarily use it but at least I'll put film in it. Mark Roberts wrote: It's a question I've been pondering for some time so I thought I'd open it up to discussion and debate. Let's stir the pot, rock the boat, muddy the waters, etc. Much as I love my MZ-S, I've noticed that I just don't use it any more. I shoot digital for the most part. When I shoot film, it's almost always B&W, which means I use the 645. And on the rare occasions when I *do* shoot 35mm color film, I find it's the MX I reach for. Small, light, simple, manual, unhurried, untechnological - that's what I'm looking for on those occasions. So the result is that I have this superb, ergonomic, high-tech, magnesium-bodied gem gathering dust most of the time and that bothers me. I know there are probably photographers out there who would actually *use* this camera. But I haven't been able to bring myself to sell it. Factors making me want to keep it: 1) I love the way it feels and works. 2) I probably couldn't get much for it these days. 3) It's the ultimate (in the true sense of the word) Pentax high-end film camera. The last of a thoroughbred line. I should probably look around and see what used ones sell for these days, but whether the price is high or low, it would probably make me both happy and sad... -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
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I can't help you with your question, Mark, because I think I am going the opposite direction. Almost a year ago, I bought an *ist DS, and it is a really nice, useful camera. On the other hand, I already had an MZ-S. Instead of selling it, I have bought a second one, and another BG-10 battery grip this week. I still want to shoot film, and I like shooting with to identical cameras, so I have two MX and now also 2 MZ-S. Carlos
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wendy beard wrote: It's even longer since I ever used the 360 FGZ flash Hi Wendy... Are you using a different flash now, or just staying away from flash photography? t
