Re: PAW thumbnail page

2005-08-25 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/21/2005 3:10:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've added a thumbnail gallery page link to my PAW 2005 front page.  
Makes it easy to find a particular image, if you're so inclined:

   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/

The link is at the lower portion of the page. Let me know what you  
think, or whether some other design would be more helpful.

Godfrey
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Thumb nail page looks good. (Some nice photos I hadn't seen.)

But, I too, found the little blocks confusing. At first I thought they were 
supposed to be thumbnails, then I saw the link to the thumbnail page.

Maybe the blocks could be smaller, then no one would think that they are 
supposed to be thumbnails (with pictures that didn't load). Or maybe dots or 
bars 
rather than blocks. 

Whatever.

Nice photos. I wish I could do 1/2 as well.

Marnie 



Re: PAW thumbnail page

2005-08-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Aug 25, 2005, at 10:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thumb nail page looks good. (Some nice photos I hadn't seen.)

But, I too, found the little blocks confusing. At first I thought  
they were

supposed to be thumbnails, then I saw the link to the thumbnail page.

Maybe the blocks could be smaller, then no one would think that  
they are
supposed to be thumbnails (with pictures that didn't load). Or  
maybe dots or bars

rather than blocks.

Whatever.

Nice photos. I wish I could do 1/2 as well.


Heya Marnie,

Thanks for the compliment!

And thanks for looking and commenting.

I'll likely revise the frontispiece page for next year's PAW, based  
on the amount of feedback I've gotten on the status bar. Might  
integrate the thumbnail page into it; I didn't in the past as I felt  
that the frontispiece should load very quickly, and loading up to 50- 
some thumbnails takes time on a slow connection. I have an idea that  
might work better, though, without losing the specific functionality  
and display information that I wanted for it.


I've put thumbnail pages up linked to the frontispiece for all posted  
years of PAW projects now.


http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW1/thumbs/
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW2/thumbs/
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW3/thumbs/
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW4/thumbs/
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/thumbs/

Godfrey



PAW thumbnail page

2005-08-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I've added a thumbnail gallery page link to my PAW 2005 front page.  
Makes it easy to find a particular image, if you're so inclined:


  http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/

The link is at the lower portion of the page. Let me know what you  
think, or whether some other design would be more helpful.


Godfrey



RE: PAW thumbnail page

2005-08-21 Thread Unca Mikey
Godfrey, on the link you posted, I am not sure the little blocks at 
the bottom are very helpful.  Perhaps it's because you are still 
working on this, but I am confused that the images linked from the 
little blocks are not the same as the thumbnail page -- should they 
be the same?  I would consider eliminating the little blocks and just 
linking to your thumbnails page.  The thumbnail page that you 
specifically asked about is helpful and easy on the eye, and it 
loaded quickly even on my dialup connection:


http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/thumbs/index.html

More importantly, thanks for posting this -- I saw and really enjoyed 
several here that I had not seen before.  You're on my list of 
photographers whose work makes me think when I'm out snapping.


*UncaMikey



Re: PAW thumbnail page

2005-08-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Thanks for the comment (and the compliment!), UncaMikey.

The little block selector is supposed to show the progress of the  
Picture A Week through the year, and provide a quick way to get to  
the latest one or pick one at random. The reason I did the thumbnail  
page is that I often want to get to a particular image, for one  
reason or another, and the block selector isn't good at that ... I  
end up going back and forth through the series a lot.


The thumbnails page images point to exactly the same pages for each  
image as the block display does. The only difference is that the  
thumbnails are constrained to be a center-square crop of the image in  
order to keep the page regular in appearance. If they're not working  
that way, then there's something wrong, but they seem to be working  
in my testing of the pages.


Godfrey

On Aug 21, 2005, at 5:40 PM, Unca Mikey wrote:

Godfrey, on the link you posted, I am not sure the little blocks at  
the bottom are very helpful.  Perhaps it's because you are still  
working on this, but I am confused that the images linked from the  
little blocks are not the same as the thumbnail page -- should they  
be the same?  I would consider eliminating the little blocks and  
just linking to your thumbnails page.  The thumbnail page that you  
specifically asked about is helpful and easy on the eye, and it  
loaded quickly even on my dialup connection:


http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/thumbs/index.html

More importantly, thanks for posting this -- I saw and really  
enjoyed several here that I had not seen before.  You're on my list  
of photographers whose work makes me think when I'm out snapping.


*UncaMikey






Re: PAW thumbnail page

2005-08-21 Thread Unca Mikey
Hh.  Godfrey, when I load 
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/, I don't get much detail 
in the small gray blocks.  In fact, no detail, just small gray 
blocks, LOL.  Nothing in the blocks allows me to differentiate one 
image from another.  After I have viewed an image, the border is red, 
which confuses your statement that  the red block is always the 
latest week posted.  (No, my browser's normal color for viewed links 
is not red.)  Now that I have viewed many images, there are many 
blocks that have red borders.


This is probably getting too detailed and arcane for most PDML 
readers, but:  older images have a solid gray block.  If I have 
viewed the image, it has a red border; if not, it has a black border. 
The block (and border) for the current week (33) is solid red.  The 
blocks for weeks not yet done are a lighter gray, with a visible grid 
in the small block; all these future blocks have a red border.


I was able to match up the images, however, so yes, now I can see 
they are the same set of images.  No problem there.


I'm using Firefox on an iMac G5, OS 10.4.1, if that makes any 
difference.  I can do a screen shot and send it to you if it would 
help.


Is anyone still awake?  Larf!

*UncaMikey



Re: PAW thumbnail page

2005-08-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
The thumbnail page appears as you've described it on my system.

Shel 


 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 

 The thumbnails page images point to exactly the same pages for each  
 image as the block display does. The only difference is that the  
 thumbnails are constrained to be a center-square crop of the image in  
 order to keep the page regular in appearance. If they're not working  
 that way, then there's something wrong, but they seem to be working  
 in my testing of the pages.




Re: PAW thumbnail page

2005-08-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Thanks Shel.

Godfrey

On Aug 21, 2005, at 7:51 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


The thumbnail page appears as you've described it on my system.

Shel




[Original Message]
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi





The thumbnails page images point to exactly the same pages for each
image as the block display does. The only difference is that the
thumbnails are constrained to be a center-square crop of the image in
order to keep the page regular in appearance. If they're not working
that way, then there's something wrong, but they seem to be working
in my testing of the pages.









Re: PAW thumbnail page

2005-08-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Aug 21, 2005, at 7:00 PM, Unca Mikey wrote:

Hh.  Godfrey, when I load http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/ 
photo/PAW5/, I don't get much detail in the small gray blocks.  In  
fact, no detail, just small gray blocks, LOL.  Nothing in the  
blocks allows me to differentiate one image from another.  After I  
have viewed an image, the border is red, which confuses your  
statement that  the red block is always the latest week  
posted.  (No, my browser's normal color for viewed links is not  
red.)  Now that I have viewed many images, there are many blocks  
that have red borders.


This is probably getting too detailed and arcane for most PDML  
readers, but:  older images have a solid gray block.  If I have  
viewed the image, it has a red border; if not, it has a black  
border. The block (and border) for the current week (33) is solid  
red.  The blocks for weeks not yet done are a lighter gray, with a  
visible grid in the small block; all these future blocks have a red  
border.




They're supposed to be small, gray blocks without a border. Un- 
available links should be a light gray stipple pattern with black  
border, the current block should be red. I normally use the Safari  
browser, which renders them as the HTML is coded. You can tell that  
the link they each point to has changed by running the mouse over  
each one and looking at the link status line at the bottom of the  
window (if you have that viewable) ... the URL will change as you go  
one to the next with the mouse. Subtle, perhaps too subtle.  ;-)


FireFox puts the link activation border around them, even though I  
believe I have code in there to display no border. I consider this a  
FireFox bug. I wonder if there's some non-destructive way to stop it  
from doing that. They display as intended in both Safari and MS  
Internet Explorer.


I was able to match up the images, however, so yes, now I can see  
they are the same set of images.  No problem there.


I'm using Firefox on an iMac G5, OS 10.4.1, if that makes any  
difference.  I can do a screen shot and send it to you if it would  
help.


I'm on Mac OS X v10.4.2 with FireFox, Safari, and Internet Explorer  
installed. (I think I have Opera on here too...) I can see what  
you're saying, but FireFox is not displaying the pages the way  
they're supposed to display, given the HTML. Internet Explorer and  
Safari both do a better job and display them as intended. I'll see if  
there's any way to correct the display in FireFox that doesn't ruin  
it in the other two.


Thanks for the comments!

Godfrey