Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-19 Thread Derby Chang

Anthony Farr wrote:

On 7 May 2010 18:54, Derby Chang  wrote:
  

Anthony Farr wrote:


The new Pentax theme song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ69kSzms1w&feature=related

  

That certainly triggers some long-sleeping synapses. I was much more partial
to Monica, but Iggy still makes me high-kick once in a while.

D




But surely you're too young to remember Jimmy and the Boys, Derby.
One of my many regrets is never having seen them live, although I was
the right age at the time.  Then again, their shows were renowned for
extreme violence on stage and in the audience, as well as between the
stage and the audience.  Missing them may have been good for my
health.

As compensation, I did catch the Pardon-Me-Boys with both Ignatius and
Monica on stage at a Valentine's Day Ball circa 1990.  Very good, IMO.

regards, Anthony
  



You are very kind, but I am certainly of that age to remember 70's 
aussie post punk.


But you are right. Iggy is a suave suave man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwGfyf87dHI

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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-16 Thread Adam Maas
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> [...]
>>
>> > "Pentax viewfinders are pretty good compared to the competition. I
>> > realize that's like saying my dog has pretty good breath for a dog."
>> > - Bill Robb
>>
>> Not if you're an Olympus OM-1, -2, -3 or -4 fan...
>>
>> Unsurpassed VF clarity or brilliance.  :-)
>>
>
> Try the Leica S2 - then you'll know what unsurpassed means!

Try a real MF SLR. The Leica's good, but a Contax 645 is still better.


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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-16 Thread P. J. Alling

On 5/6/2010 9:56 PM, Michael Beacom wrote:


On May 6, 2010, at 1:09 PM, m...@robertstech.com wrote:


John Francis  wrote:


On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 10:46:50AM -0400, m...@robertstech.com wrote:

CheekyGeek  wrote:


"Pentax engineers are continuing to pursue the possibility of
launching a mirrorless interchangeable-lens camera, as the firm 
points

to an 'exciting' few months ahead. "

Full article: 
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Pentax_wont_rule_out_mirrorless_camera_news_297728.html 



Headline comes from the Department of "Duh":
"Pentax won't rule out mirrorless camera"

No kidding, guys. Ya really think so?


Well, at least we'd get to listen to all the complaints about EVFs, 
rather
than the complaints that the viewfinder on the APS-C bodies is too 
dark.


"Pentax viewfinders are pretty good compared to the competition. I
realize that's like saying my dog has pretty good breath for a dog."
- Bill Robb


MARK!


Too late by a number of years.

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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as, everyone else"

2010-05-07 Thread John Sessoms

From: Doug Franklin

On 2010-05-06 22:37, Matthew Hunt wrote:


> If it was good enough for 2007, 2008, or 2009, if you recall
> correctly, then it's damn well good enough for 2010.


Ahhh.  A fellow curmudgeon, I see.  :-)   Uphill both ways, was it?


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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-07 Thread Steven Desjardins
This statement is also a tribute to a fairly simple comment that rolls
around the net collecting lint until it can't be recognized for what
it was.  Pentax is a small company and they see some advantage in
looking into niche markets rather than always taking Nikon and Canon
head on.  Of course, I've become partial to EVIL cameras so I may be a
bit biased on this theme.  OTOH, Olympus and Panasonic are doing well
with them.  The more revenue streams the better.

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:27 AM, CheekyGeek  wrote:
> "Pentax engineers are continuing to pursue the possibility of
> launching a mirrorless interchangeable-lens camera, as the firm points
> to an 'exciting' few months ahead. "
>
> Full article: 
> http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Pentax_wont_rule_out_mirrorless_camera_news_297728.html
>
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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-07 Thread Anthony Farr
On 7 May 2010 18:54, Derby Chang  wrote:
> Anthony Farr wrote:
>>
>> The new Pentax theme song:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ69kSzms1w&feature=related
>>
>
> That certainly triggers some long-sleeping synapses. I was much more partial
> to Monica, but Iggy still makes me high-kick once in a while.
>
> D
>

But surely you're too young to remember Jimmy and the Boys, Derby.
One of my many regrets is never having seen them live, although I was
the right age at the time.  Then again, their shows were renowned for
extreme violence on stage and in the audience, as well as between the
stage and the audience.  Missing them may have been good for my
health.

As compensation, I did catch the Pardon-Me-Boys with both Ignatius and
Monica on stage at a Valentine's Day Ball circa 1990.  Very good, IMO.

regards, Anthony

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to those who lack in mind and sight"
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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-07 Thread Dario Bonazza
Mike Wilson wrote: 


I thought this was about viewfinders, not price tags?


C'mon, any thread is about any topic!

Dario

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RE: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-07 Thread mike wilson

 Bob W  wrote: 
> [...]
> > 
> > > "Pentax viewfinders are pretty good compared to the competition. I 
> > > realize that's like saying my dog has pretty good breath for a dog."
> > > - Bill Robb
> > 
> > Not if you're an Olympus OM-1, -2, -3 or -4 fan...
> > 
> > Unsurpassed VF clarity or brilliance.  :-)
> > 
> 
> Try the Leica S2 - then you'll know what unsurpassed means!

I thought this was about viewfinders, not price tags?

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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-07 Thread Derby Chang

Anthony Farr wrote:

The new Pentax theme song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ69kSzms1w&feature=related
  



That certainly triggers some long-sleeping synapses. I was much more 
partial to Monica, but Iggy still makes me high-kick once in a while.


D


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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-07 Thread Anthony Farr
The new Pentax theme song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ69kSzms1w&feature=related

regards, Anthony

   "Of what use is lens and light
to those who lack in mind and sight"
   (Anon)



On 6 May 2010 22:27, CheekyGeek  wrote:
> "Pentax engineers are continuing to pursue the possibility of
> launching a mirrorless interchangeable-lens camera, as the firm points
> to an 'exciting' few months ahead. "
>
> Full article: 
> http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Pentax_wont_rule_out_mirrorless_camera_news_297728.html
>
> Darren Addy
> Kearney, NE
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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-06 Thread Rob Studdert
On 07/05/2010, Jeffery Smith  wrote:
> Digital talk was verboten on the LUG for years.

I left the LUG when most there were saying it couldn't be done and
would never happen (a digital M series body)

> And you were just talking about the cost of the bodies. Take a look at the 
> Leica lens prices these days. The cost of the Noctilux will make you plotz!

I sold my Noct and all my ASPH glass rather than wait, sad I did
sometimes but I sure do have more money in the bank (waiting to be
spent on a FF Pentax DSLR of course ;-)

Still have an M4 and collapsible Elmar 50 though, nice and just enough
to qualify.

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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-06 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-05-06 22:37, Matthew Hunt wrote:


If it was good enough for 2007, 2008, or 2009, if you recall
correctly, then it's damn well good enough for 2010.


Ahhh.  A fellow curmudgeon, I see. :-)  Uphill both ways, was it?

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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-06 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Doug Franklin
 wrote:
> On 2010-05-06 21:56, Michael Beacom wrote:
>
>>> "Pentax viewfinders are pretty good compared to the competition. I
>>> realize that's like saying my dog has pretty good breath for a dog."
>>> - Bill Robb
>>
>> MARK!
>
> That was "Marked" in 2007, 2008, or 2009, if I recall correctly.  That's
> what Mark was referencing. :-)

If it was good enough for 2007, 2008, or 2009, if you recall
correctly, then it's damn well good enough for 2010.

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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-06 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-05-06 21:56, Michael Beacom wrote:


"Pentax viewfinders are pretty good compared to the competition. I
realize that's like saying my dog has pretty good breath for a dog."
- Bill Robb


MARK!


That was "Marked" in 2007, 2008, or 2009, if I recall correctly.  That's 
what Mark was referencing. :-)


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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-06 Thread Michael Beacom


On May 6, 2010, at 1:09 PM, m...@robertstech.com wrote:


John Francis  wrote:


On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 10:46:50AM -0400, m...@robertstech.com wrote:

CheekyGeek  wrote:


"Pentax engineers are continuing to pursue the possibility of
launching a mirrorless interchangeable-lens camera, as the firm  
points

to an 'exciting' few months ahead. "

Full article: http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/ 
Pentax_wont_rule_out_mirrorless_camera_news_297728.html


Headline comes from the Department of "Duh":
"Pentax won't rule out mirrorless camera"

No kidding, guys. Ya really think so?


Well, at least we'd get to listen to all the complaints about  
EVFs, rather
than the complaints that the viewfinder on the APS-C bodies is too  
dark.


"Pentax viewfinders are pretty good compared to the competition. I
realize that's like saying my dog has pretty good breath for a dog."
- Bill Robb


MARK!

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RE: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-06 Thread Bob W
[...]
> >
> > On the other hand, I haven't actually LOOKED thru a Leica S2 VF. 
> > Perhaps some day I might.
> 
> A friend of mine had one from the Leica rep to work with for 
> a week, so I got a chance to play with it for a few minutes. 
> A lovely camera in every way. It's about the distance from 
> the Earth to the Oort Cloud above my pay grade ... but at 
> least not as far as Alpha Centauri. An
> M9 is much more approachable, that's right around the orbit 
> of the Moon. ;-)

I played with an M9 and an S2 in the Leica showroom here a few months ago -
both beautiful cameras. The S2 was a real surprise, especially the VF. 

I'll probably buy a couple of S2s on Monday, after I've won the lottery.

Bob


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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-06 Thread Jeffery Smith
Digital talk was verboten on the LUG for years. Then the M8 arrived, and film 
camera talk has all but vanished. With the introduction of the M9, the M8 folks 
are the wannabes. 

And you were just talking about the cost of the bodies. Take a look at the 
Leica lens prices these days. The cost of the Noctilux will make you plotz!

Jeffery


On May 6, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Keith Whaley  wrote:
>>> Try the Leica S2 - then you'll know what unsurpassed means!
>> 
>> Yeah, well, you may be right. I'll never know.
>> I was so ignorant of it, I had to Google it! Imagine!
>> 
>> Anyhow, when I saw the price, I froze up and couldn’t move for several
>> hours.
>> 
>> I can’t possibly dispute a cost like that, or specs like that.
>> 
>> On the other hand, I haven’t actually LOOKED thru a Leica S2 VF. Perhaps
>> some day I might.
> 
> A friend of mine had one from the Leica rep to work with for a week,
> so I got a chance to play with it for a few minutes. A lovely camera
> in every way. It's about the distance from the Earth to the Oort Cloud
> above my pay grade ... but at least not as far as Alpha Centauri. An
> M9 is much more approachable, that's right around the orbit of the
> Moon. ;-)
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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Keith Whaley  wrote:
>> Try the Leica S2 - then you'll know what unsurpassed means!
>
> Yeah, well, you may be right. I'll never know.
> I was so ignorant of it, I had to Google it! Imagine!
>
> Anyhow, when I saw the price, I froze up and couldn’t move for several
> hours.
>
> I can’t possibly dispute a cost like that, or specs like that.
>
> On the other hand, I haven’t actually LOOKED thru a Leica S2 VF. Perhaps
> some day I might.

A friend of mine had one from the Leica rep to work with for a week,
so I got a chance to play with it for a few minutes. A lovely camera
in every way. It's about the distance from the Earth to the Oort Cloud
above my pay grade ... but at least not as far as Alpha Centauri. An
M9 is much more approachable, that's right around the orbit of the
Moon. ;-)
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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-06 Thread Keith Whaley

Bob W wrote:

[...]
"Pentax viewfinders are pretty good compared to the competition. I 
realize that's like saying my dog has pretty good breath for a dog."

- Bill Robb




Not if you're an Olympus OM-1, -2, -3 or -4 fan...

Unsurpassed VF clarity or brilliance.  :-)



Try the Leica S2 - then you'll know what unsurpassed means!


Yeah, well, you may be right. I'll never know.
I was so ignorant of it, I had to Google it! Imagine!

Anyhow, when I saw the price, I froze up and couldn’t move for several hours.

I can’t possibly dispute a cost like that, or specs like that.

On the other hand, I haven’t actually LOOKED thru a Leica S2 VF. Perhaps some 
day I might.


keith



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RE: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-06 Thread Bob W
[...]
> 
> > "Pentax viewfinders are pretty good compared to the competition. I 
> > realize that's like saying my dog has pretty good breath for a dog."
> > - Bill Robb
> 
> Not if you're an Olympus OM-1, -2, -3 or -4 fan...
> 
> Unsurpassed VF clarity or brilliance.  :-)
> 

Try the Leica S2 - then you'll know what unsurpassed means!



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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-06 Thread Keith Whaley

m...@robertstech.com wrote:

John Francis  wrote:


On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 10:46:50AM -0400, m...@robertstech.com wrote:

CheekyGeek  wrote:



"Pentax engineers are continuing to pursue the possibility of
launching a mirrorless interchangeable-lens camera, as the firm points
to an 'exciting' few months ahead. "

Full article: 
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Pentax_wont_rule_out_mirrorless_camera_news_297728.html


Headline comes from the Department of "Duh": 
"Pentax won't rule out mirrorless camera"


No kidding, guys. Ya really think so?



Well, at least we'd get to listen to all the complaints about EVFs, rather
than the complaints that the viewfinder on the APS-C bodies is too dark.



"Pentax viewfinders are pretty good compared to the competition. I
realize that's like saying my dog has pretty good breath for a dog."
- Bill Robb


Not if you’re an Olympus OM-1, -2, -3 or -4 fan...

Unsurpassed VF clarity or brilliance.  :-)

keith


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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-06 Thread Dario Bonazza

"We don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

That's a vague statement. Please be more specific.

"We don't want to be seen"

Succeeded! What next?

"We don't"

I see...


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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-06 Thread Steven Desjardins
Pentax makes a number of small lenses.  It would be nice to have a
small camera like the NX-whatever or the E-P1 that could use them.

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:27 AM, CheekyGeek  wrote:
> "Pentax engineers are continuing to pursue the possibility of
> launching a mirrorless interchangeable-lens camera, as the firm points
> to an 'exciting' few months ahead. "
>
> Full article: 
> http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Pentax_wont_rule_out_mirrorless_camera_news_297728.html
>
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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-06 Thread mike wilson

John Francis wrote:


On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 10:46:50AM -0400, m...@robertstech.com wrote:


CheekyGeek  wrote:



"Pentax engineers are continuing to pursue the possibility of
launching a mirrorless interchangeable-lens camera, as the firm points
to an 'exciting' few months ahead. "

Full article: 
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Pentax_wont_rule_out_mirrorless_camera_news_297728.html


Headline comes from the Department of "Duh": 
"Pentax won't rule out mirrorless camera"


No kidding, guys. Ya really think so?



Well, at least we'd get to listen to all the complaints about EVFs, rather
than the complaints that the viewfinder on the APS-C bodies is too dark.


Who would complain if they built a rangefinder?

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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-06 Thread mark
John Francis  wrote:

>On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 10:46:50AM -0400, m...@robertstech.com wrote:
>> CheekyGeek  wrote:
>> 
>> >"Pentax engineers are continuing to pursue the possibility of
>> >launching a mirrorless interchangeable-lens camera, as the firm points
>> >to an 'exciting' few months ahead. "
>> >
>> >Full article: 
>> >http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Pentax_wont_rule_out_mirrorless_camera_news_297728.html
>> 
>> Headline comes from the Department of "Duh": 
>> "Pentax won't rule out mirrorless camera"
>> 
>> No kidding, guys. Ya really think so?
>
>Well, at least we'd get to listen to all the complaints about EVFs, rather
>than the complaints that the viewfinder on the APS-C bodies is too dark.

"Pentax viewfinders are pretty good compared to the competition. I
realize that's like saying my dog has pretty good breath for a dog."
- Bill Robb


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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-06 Thread John Francis
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 10:46:50AM -0400, m...@robertstech.com wrote:
> CheekyGeek  wrote:
> 
> >"Pentax engineers are continuing to pursue the possibility of
> >launching a mirrorless interchangeable-lens camera, as the firm points
> >to an 'exciting' few months ahead. "
> >
> >Full article: 
> >http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Pentax_wont_rule_out_mirrorless_camera_news_297728.html
> 
> Headline comes from the Department of "Duh": 
> "Pentax won't rule out mirrorless camera"
> 
> No kidding, guys. Ya really think so?

Well, at least we'd get to listen to all the complaints about EVFs, rather
than the complaints that the viewfinder on the APS-C bodies is too dark.


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Re: Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-06 Thread mark
CheekyGeek  wrote:

>"Pentax engineers are continuing to pursue the possibility of
>launching a mirrorless interchangeable-lens camera, as the firm points
>to an 'exciting' few months ahead. "
>
>Full article: 
>http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Pentax_wont_rule_out_mirrorless_camera_news_297728.html

Headline comes from the Department of "Duh": 
"Pentax won't rule out mirrorless camera"

No kidding, guys. Ya really think so?



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Pentax: "...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else"

2010-05-06 Thread CheekyGeek
"Pentax engineers are continuing to pursue the possibility of
launching a mirrorless interchangeable-lens camera, as the firm points
to an 'exciting' few months ahead. "

Full article: 
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Pentax_wont_rule_out_mirrorless_camera_news_297728.html

Darren Addy
Kearney, NE

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