Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-05 Thread P. J. Alling
The problem with small light autofocus lenses is once you put the 
autofocus motor in the lens it's no longer small.  They can be smallish, 
but I would hate to see a 43mm limited with a built in AF motor.  It 
would have to be much bigger.


On 11/2/2019 9:51 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote:

Dear Mark, you would have noticed that in the Film SLR days ALL Pentax
Lenses were Full Frame. Even the SLR themselves were pretty small and
petite looking.
And these Lenses were as large or as small as the DA Lenses on the
current crop of APSC DSLRs.
So why NOT design all Lenses as Full Frame?
This would have kept design and manufacturing efforts and costs down.
Now please don't start searching for a Technical reason why this is
detrimental to Photography.
I just responded to your thread "I want a full-frame version of this lens".
As for Lenses I am a zoom lover - covered between 10 & 300 mm as I am
not into wild life, nature or sports photography - so do not need
longer lenses. No GAS.
Now all my Zooms are brutally sharp.
How do I assure this?? Simple: I will go on buying lenses till I find
the sharpest one. That's the Keeper.
I do have some Prime Lenses because of their f1.2 or f1.4 Apertures
for special Low Light Photography or DOF needs.
Thanks for reading.
Bipin.
Toronto & Bangalore


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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-04 Thread Stanley Halpin
Juan, welcome back! I have been in BA a few times in the last couple of years, 
kept thinking I needed to track you down and ask for restaurant recommendations 
down there…

And thanks for starting this discussion. Long story short, over the last 20 
years I have bought and sold many lenses. Gradually got to the point where I 
probably don’t need any more and am not actively looking. 
For my K-1 I have the big 3 DFA lenses. (And yes, they are big.) 15-30/2.8, 
24-70/2.8, and 70-200/2.8  

So, a funny thing happened on my last trip to Europe. I left all of those 
lenses home. I took an A-20/2.8,  FA43/1.9, and DFA 100 macro WR.
And I also took the new GR III, APS-C with a fixed lens (28mm effective 
length). Sometimes I used the 43mm, sometimes I used the 20mm e.g. when I was 
inside a church or wanted wider landscapes, but most of my K-1 shots were with 
the 100mm, and the GR III got extensive use for wider shots. Essentially a 
two-camera two-lens system. I did sometimes miss having my zooms, but mostly 
was pleased I had saved the weight and fuss of carrying multiple heavy lenses.

A few decades ago, in the late ‘70s, early ‘80s, I did extensive rock climbing 
and mountaineering. I had a similar two-camera, two-lens system then: a 
Nikkormat with 100mm lens and a MInox G with a zone-focus fixed focal length 
lens (28mm? 35mm?). The Minox was carried on my gear sling, I could be holding 
on the rock with left hand, with the right hand pull up the camera, flip open 
the cover with my thumb, set the focus, match-needle the exposure, compose and 
shoot, flip the cover closed, and be on my way all in just a very few seconds. 
The Ricoh GR III comes the closest to a totally functional 
everything-just-right of any camera I have used since those MInox cameras. I 
just wish it were WR so it would be usable in the rain and had a better coating 
on the screen so that it was usable in bright sun.

Actually, I am at the point where I really need to let go some of those lenses 
in the closet. I love the almost sensual feel of the 77/1.8 but I seldom take 
it anywhere nor use it if I do have it. It is not WR, and when using AF it does 
not allow the manual fine tuning of focus that more modern Pentax lenses have. 
Same is true of the 43mm. Next time I will just take my 50/1.2 for mid-range 
shots. And so I see no reason to keep the 43mm.

Back to the original “lens lust” theme… I had a 400/4.0 (?5.6?) which I bought 
for an Alaska trip in 2016. I was glad to have it, used it often, but too long 
for me to handhold, and other than Alaska there are too few times I shoot 
wildlife when using a tripod. So I sold it after the trip. (Bought a DA* 
300/4.0 instead, which I don’t think I will ever let go.) I would buy another 
400mm if/when I go back to Alaska. 

And then one other, by far the best lens ever, the DA*200/4.0 Macro. I had one, 
I wasn’t using it, I sold it to a list member who could take far more advantage 
of that gem than I could. But don’t think of looking for one, such a search is 
akin to a search for the Golden Fleece or the Holy Grail; you may hear rumors 
of sightings, but you will not find one. 

Stan

> On Nov 1, 2019, at 2:12 PM, Juan Buhler  wrote:
> 
> I figured I'd start a thread about lens lust. Note this is not "lenses I
> need". I have too many as it is, covering every focal length I care about
> (which doesn't go much further than 100 or 135mm anyway)
> 
> DA15/4: I have the DA21mm, and it's an awesome lens. Seems like the 15
> would be a great companion to it. I don't really need it, since I have some
> zooms that cover this focal length, plus I haven't been shooting with the
> KP much anyway.
> 
> M20/4: I don't know why I want this one, I just do. I really like the M
> lenses. I do have the DA21 Limited for APS, and the Sigma 20/2.8 for APS on
> the Sony, and an awesome Zeiss 21/2.8 for full frame on Leicas and Sonys.
> And that's without counting the zooms that cover that both on APS and full
> frame: I have a 17-70/4, a 12-24/4, and a Canon 17-40/4 that covers full
> frame with fast AF via an adaptor on the Sony.
> 
> M40/2.8: I just always wanted that little pancake lens. Don't need it, as I
> have tons of both 35mm and 50mm lenses, plus a really nice Konica Hexanon
> 40mm/1.8 that is perfect for the A7ii.
> 
> DA20-40: This seems like the perfect street lens for the KP. Been wanting
> it since it came out, but never pulled the trigger. Again, I already have
> other lenses covering this range.
> 
> K85/1.8: I had this lens. It fell from my motorcycle jacket the day I was
> getting my istD back in 2004. I never saw it again. It's not a FL I
> regularly use so it's hard to justify. I had found it in pristine condition
> for under $100 back in the late 90s.
> 
> M28/3.5: This was my main 28, my copy seemed to be a lot sharper than what
> should be legal. I lost it years ago. I do have an M28/2.8 and the
> FA28/2.8, plus a Takumar 28/3.5 (the big barreled one). Oh and I do have
> the 

Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-03 Thread Pat Temmerman
Have the DA16-50 and it was my 2nd favorite lens after the 43mm Ltd (or 
maybe most favorite after being introduced to Scottish weather.) We were 
away for a weekend to one of the western islands, decent weather. 
Walking around all day, 16-50 was just fine. Back to the hotel for 
lunch, back out and suddenly found that I had a 20-50. No drops, no 
jolts. Lens just decided that I no longer needed the range from 16 to 
20.  Found some references on this list to this problem, googled it, 
checked service cost and decided that 20-50 wasn't so bad consider the 
weagher sealing. Later decided that it was just too damn big and heavy - 
and obvious - for walking around towns and cities, so I bought a 2nd 
hand DA21 from Japan. Love it. Have since  bought the 28-105WP and tend 
to go with that. Will still drag out the 16 (20) - 50 if I'm feeling a 
bit land-scapey in inclement weather.



On 03/11/2019 13:18, Paul Stenquist wrote:


I have an excellent barely used DA 16-50/2.8. Pentax sent me a new one about 5 
years ago after failing to fix my original one. This was when I was working 
with them a bit on promotions, so I believe they took care to make sure it was 
a good one. Make me an offer.

Paul


On Nov 2, 2019, at 11:02 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:

Actually the lens I want, but can't justify, is the DA 16-50mm f2.8.

I already have a Sigma 17-70 f2.8~4.5 which covers the range, and suits my 
needs most of the time.

Plus the Tamron 17-50mm is a wee bit better optically by all accounts and much 
closer to my budget.

I wouldn't turn my nose up at the Pentax if I could get it for the same price 
as the Tamron, since it probably beats it like a rag doll as far as build 
quality is concerned.


On 11/1/2019 2:12 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:
I figured I'd start a thread about lens lust. Note this is not "lenses I
need". I have too many as it is, covering every focal length I care about
(which doesn't go much further than 100 or 135mm anyway)

DA15/4: I have the DA21mm, and it's an awesome lens. Seems like the 15
would be a great companion to it. I don't really need it, since I have some
zooms that cover this focal length, plus I haven't been shooting with the
KP much anyway.

M20/4: I don't know why I want this one, I just do. I really like the M
lenses. I do have the DA21 Limited for APS, and the Sigma 20/2.8 for APS on
the Sony, and an awesome Zeiss 21/2.8 for full frame on Leicas and Sonys.
And that's without counting the zooms that cover that both on APS and full
frame: I have a 17-70/4, a 12-24/4, and a Canon 17-40/4 that covers full
frame with fast AF via an adaptor on the Sony.

M40/2.8: I just always wanted that little pancake lens. Don't need it, as I
have tons of both 35mm and 50mm lenses, plus a really nice Konica Hexanon
40mm/1.8 that is perfect for the A7ii.

DA20-40: This seems like the perfect street lens for the KP. Been wanting
it since it came out, but never pulled the trigger. Again, I already have
other lenses covering this range.

K85/1.8: I had this lens. It fell from my motorcycle jacket the day I was
getting my istD back in 2004. I never saw it again. It's not a FL I
regularly use so it's hard to justify. I had found it in pristine condition
for under $100 back in the late 90s.

M28/3.5: This was my main 28, my copy seemed to be a lot sharper than what
should be legal. I lost it years ago. I do have an M28/2.8 and the
FA28/2.8, plus a Takumar 28/3.5 (the big barreled one). Oh and I do have
the awesome K30/2.8 and a bunch of other 28s for other mounts, so it's
super hard to justify buying this one.

Takumar 50/1.4, 8 element: I REALLY don't need this. My best 50mms are a
Summicron, the A50/1.4, maybe the M50/1.7 or FA50/1.7 (yes, I have all
those plus a lot more 50s!)

K50/1.2: Again, I don't need another 50. But it sure would be nice to play
with that extra third of a stop.

How about you? Any lenses you've always wanted but haven't gotten around to
getting? Any opinions on that list above?

j

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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-03 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It’s optically the same as the FA43 Limited, but that lens is se up for the 
screwdriver AF drive — the focusing is a bit too quick with a loose feel. Makes 
it hard to be precise. 

The Special is RF coupled and has a beautiful focusing feel and built in hood. 
The only downside is that close focus is .7m, like most RF lenses. Not a big 
issue on the CL since it’s FOV is cropped and it’s a short portrait tele in 
this application. 

G


> On Nov 3, 2019, at 11:22 AM, Juan Buhler  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 10:46 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi 
> wrote:
> 
>> The Pentax lens I always wanted is the Pentax-L 43mm f/1.9 Special that
>> they produced in Leica Thread Mount for a short run of about 2000 units.
>> Most were sold in Japan and still command a price around $1500 or so as a
>> complete set with the matching optical viewfinder.
>> 
>> A year or so back after I bought the Leica CL, I found one available in
>> Japan EBay for $600 without the finder and nabbed it. It’s every bit as
>> good a lens as I expected. (-:
> 
> 
> Ohhh, yes, good one Godfrey, I would also love to have that one!
> 
> Is it any different optically to the 43mm Limited? I mean--if you'll use it
> on a camera with live view/EVF, then there's no difference, correct? Is its
> only advantage that it is rangefinder coupled?
> 
> j
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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-03 Thread Juan Buhler
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 10:46 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi 
wrote:

> The Pentax lens I always wanted is the Pentax-L 43mm f/1.9 Special that
> they produced in Leica Thread Mount for a short run of about 2000 units.
> Most were sold in Japan and still command a price around $1500 or so as a
> complete set with the matching optical viewfinder.
>
> A year or so back after I bought the Leica CL, I found one available in
> Japan EBay for $600 without the finder and nabbed it. It’s every bit as
> good a lens as I expected. (-:


Ohhh, yes, good one Godfrey, I would also love to have that one!

Is it any different optically to the 43mm Limited? I mean--if you'll use it
on a camera with live view/EVF, then there's no difference, correct? Is its
only advantage that it is rangefinder coupled?

j

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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have an excellent barely used DA 16-50/2.8. Pentax sent me a new one about 5 
years ago after failing to fix my original one. This was when I was working 
with them a bit on promotions, so I believe they took care to make sure it was 
a good one. Make me an offer.

Paul

> On Nov 2, 2019, at 11:02 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> Actually the lens I want, but can't justify, is the DA 16-50mm f2.8.
> 
> I already have a Sigma 17-70 f2.8~4.5 which covers the range, and suits my 
> needs most of the time.
> 
> Plus the Tamron 17-50mm is a wee bit better optically by all accounts and 
> much closer to my budget.
> 
> I wouldn't turn my nose up at the Pentax if I could get it for the same price 
> as the Tamron, since it probably beats it like a rag doll as far as build 
> quality is concerned.
> 
>> On 11/1/2019 2:12 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:
>> I figured I'd start a thread about lens lust. Note this is not "lenses I
>> need". I have too many as it is, covering every focal length I care about
>> (which doesn't go much further than 100 or 135mm anyway)
>> 
>> DA15/4: I have the DA21mm, and it's an awesome lens. Seems like the 15
>> would be a great companion to it. I don't really need it, since I have some
>> zooms that cover this focal length, plus I haven't been shooting with the
>> KP much anyway.
>> 
>> M20/4: I don't know why I want this one, I just do. I really like the M
>> lenses. I do have the DA21 Limited for APS, and the Sigma 20/2.8 for APS on
>> the Sony, and an awesome Zeiss 21/2.8 for full frame on Leicas and Sonys.
>> And that's without counting the zooms that cover that both on APS and full
>> frame: I have a 17-70/4, a 12-24/4, and a Canon 17-40/4 that covers full
>> frame with fast AF via an adaptor on the Sony.
>> 
>> M40/2.8: I just always wanted that little pancake lens. Don't need it, as I
>> have tons of both 35mm and 50mm lenses, plus a really nice Konica Hexanon
>> 40mm/1.8 that is perfect for the A7ii.
>> 
>> DA20-40: This seems like the perfect street lens for the KP. Been wanting
>> it since it came out, but never pulled the trigger. Again, I already have
>> other lenses covering this range.
>> 
>> K85/1.8: I had this lens. It fell from my motorcycle jacket the day I was
>> getting my istD back in 2004. I never saw it again. It's not a FL I
>> regularly use so it's hard to justify. I had found it in pristine condition
>> for under $100 back in the late 90s.
>> 
>> M28/3.5: This was my main 28, my copy seemed to be a lot sharper than what
>> should be legal. I lost it years ago. I do have an M28/2.8 and the
>> FA28/2.8, plus a Takumar 28/3.5 (the big barreled one). Oh and I do have
>> the awesome K30/2.8 and a bunch of other 28s for other mounts, so it's
>> super hard to justify buying this one.
>> 
>> Takumar 50/1.4, 8 element: I REALLY don't need this. My best 50mms are a
>> Summicron, the A50/1.4, maybe the M50/1.7 or FA50/1.7 (yes, I have all
>> those plus a lot more 50s!)
>> 
>> K50/1.2: Again, I don't need another 50. But it sure would be nice to play
>> with that extra third of a stop.
>> 
>> How about you? Any lenses you've always wanted but haven't gotten around to
>> getting? Any opinions on that list above?
>> 
>> j
>> 
>> --
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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-02 Thread P. J. Alling

Actually the lens I want, but can't justify, is the DA 16-50mm f2.8.

I already have a Sigma 17-70 f2.8~4.5 which covers the range, and suits 
my needs most of the time.


Plus the Tamron 17-50mm is a wee bit better optically by all accounts 
and much closer to my budget.


I wouldn't turn my nose up at the Pentax if I could get it for the same 
price as the Tamron, since it probably beats it like a rag doll as far 
as build quality is concerned.


On 11/1/2019 2:12 PM, Juan Buhler wrote:

I figured I'd start a thread about lens lust. Note this is not "lenses I
need". I have too many as it is, covering every focal length I care about
(which doesn't go much further than 100 or 135mm anyway)

DA15/4: I have the DA21mm, and it's an awesome lens. Seems like the 15
would be a great companion to it. I don't really need it, since I have some
zooms that cover this focal length, plus I haven't been shooting with the
KP much anyway.

M20/4: I don't know why I want this one, I just do. I really like the M
lenses. I do have the DA21 Limited for APS, and the Sigma 20/2.8 for APS on
the Sony, and an awesome Zeiss 21/2.8 for full frame on Leicas and Sonys.
And that's without counting the zooms that cover that both on APS and full
frame: I have a 17-70/4, a 12-24/4, and a Canon 17-40/4 that covers full
frame with fast AF via an adaptor on the Sony.

M40/2.8: I just always wanted that little pancake lens. Don't need it, as I
have tons of both 35mm and 50mm lenses, plus a really nice Konica Hexanon
40mm/1.8 that is perfect for the A7ii.

DA20-40: This seems like the perfect street lens for the KP. Been wanting
it since it came out, but never pulled the trigger. Again, I already have
other lenses covering this range.

K85/1.8: I had this lens. It fell from my motorcycle jacket the day I was
getting my istD back in 2004. I never saw it again. It's not a FL I
regularly use so it's hard to justify. I had found it in pristine condition
for under $100 back in the late 90s.

M28/3.5: This was my main 28, my copy seemed to be a lot sharper than what
should be legal. I lost it years ago. I do have an M28/2.8 and the
FA28/2.8, plus a Takumar 28/3.5 (the big barreled one). Oh and I do have
the awesome K30/2.8 and a bunch of other 28s for other mounts, so it's
super hard to justify buying this one.

Takumar 50/1.4, 8 element: I REALLY don't need this. My best 50mms are a
Summicron, the A50/1.4, maybe the M50/1.7 or FA50/1.7 (yes, I have all
those plus a lot more 50s!)

K50/1.2: Again, I don't need another 50. But it sure would be nice to play
with that extra third of a stop.

How about you? Any lenses you've always wanted but haven't gotten around to
getting? Any opinions on that list above?

j

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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-02 Thread P. J. Alling
Ah, yes, a gentle Scottish mist, when the heavens open up and the fish 
swim up out of the rivers and into the sky...


On 11/1/2019 8:01 PM, Pat Temmerman wrote:
Have the DA21... would love if it were fully WP (I live in Scotland. 
Rain is real.)


On 01/11/2019 23:39, John Francis wrote:

On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 04:58:45PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:

Paul Stenquist wrote:

I would think a full frame 24-70/4 is very unlikely in that Pentax 
already offers an excellent 24-70/2.8.

Yeah, it's excellent. But it's also huge compared to the 28-105.

... and with a price tag to match!

I could never quite persuade myself I needed the older FA* 28-70/2.8
to go along with the FA* 80-200/2.8 that was my main lens. But that's
because I was mostly doing motorsports photography - very different
from the sort of thing that Juan does - so the 28-105/f4.0-5.6 I had
met my needs for the occasional pit or paddock shots.

I'm waiting to see whether the announced flagship APS-C camera body
makes it all the way into production; if it does, (and assuming that
it has the sort of feature upgrades that could tempt me) there's a
fairly good chance I'll buy one last Pentax body. But despite what
my PDML T-shirt says I'm not sure I'll be buying any more lenses;
the main potential candidate - the D FA 150-450 - would add quite
a bit to whatever the new body (plus grip) would cost.





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RE: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-02 Thread jcoyle
I don't really need any more lens, I go from 16mm  to 400mm (with a gap
between 210 and 400), but none of my current photography would justify the
expense of filling in the gap.  If I could find one, the power zoom 28-105
was one of the best I have had, and wouldn't mind getting it for when my
28-105 3.5/5.6 wears out.  However, as I've mentioned before, my phot kit
will probably last longer than I will!


John in Brisbane


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Subject: Pentax lenses I want

I figured I'd start a thread about lens lust. Note this is not "lenses I
need". I have too many as it is, covering every focal length I care about
(which doesn't go much further than 100 or 135mm anyway)

DA15/4: I have the DA21mm, and it's an awesome lens. Seems like the 15 would
be a great companion to it. I don't really need it, since I have some zooms
that cover this focal length, plus I haven't been shooting with the KP much
anyway.

M20/4: I don't know why I want this one, I just do. I really like the M
lenses. I do have the DA21 Limited for APS, and the Sigma 20/2.8 for APS on
the Sony, and an awesome Zeiss 21/2.8 for full frame on Leicas and Sonys.
And that's without counting the zooms that cover that both on APS and full
frame: I have a 17-70/4, a 12-24/4, and a Canon 17-40/4 that covers full
frame with fast AF via an adaptor on the Sony.

M40/2.8: I just always wanted that little pancake lens. Don't need it, as I
have tons of both 35mm and 50mm lenses, plus a really nice Konica Hexanon
40mm/1.8 that is perfect for the A7ii.

DA20-40: This seems like the perfect street lens for the KP. Been wanting it
since it came out, but never pulled the trigger. Again, I already have other
lenses covering this range.

K85/1.8: I had this lens. It fell from my motorcycle jacket the day I was
getting my istD back in 2004. I never saw it again. It's not a FL I
regularly use so it's hard to justify. I had found it in pristine condition
for under $100 back in the late 90s.

M28/3.5: This was my main 28, my copy seemed to be a lot sharper than what
should be legal. I lost it years ago. I do have an M28/2.8 and the FA28/2.8,
plus a Takumar 28/3.5 (the big barreled one). Oh and I do have the awesome
K30/2.8 and a bunch of other 28s for other mounts, so it's super hard to
justify buying this one.

Takumar 50/1.4, 8 element: I REALLY don't need this. My best 50mms are a
Summicron, the A50/1.4, maybe the M50/1.7 or FA50/1.7 (yes, I have all those
plus a lot more 50s!)

K50/1.2: Again, I don't need another 50. But it sure would be nice to play
with that extra third of a stop.

How about you? Any lenses you've always wanted but haven't gotten around to
getting? Any opinions on that list above?

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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-02 Thread Ken Waller
Nicely captured image - good job.


-Original Message-
>From: Toine 
>Subject: Re: Pentax lenses I want
>
>My last lens, HD DA 55-300, probably makes my wanted list complete. I
>do have the 60-250 which is somewhat better but a monster compared to
>the tiny HD 55-300. The old 55-300 was excellent, the HD version is
>even better. The other lenses on my wanted list are or were the DA35
>macro, DFA 100 macro and 08 Wide zoom.
>
>sample shot of today with lots of cropping:
>https://www.repiuk.nl/content/imgp1852/lightbox/
>
>On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 at 22:25, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 1, 2019, at 11:12 AM, Juan Buhler  wrote:
>> >
>> > I figured I'd start a thread about lens lust. Note this is not "lenses I
>> > need". I have too many as it is, covering every focal length I care about
>> > (which doesn't go much further than 100 or 135mm anyway)
>>
>> I’ve been very lucky that in the past few years I’ve managed to score on 
>> several of my wishlist lenses, mostly through a combination of gifts and KEH.
>>
>> DA 35 macro
>> FA 43 ltd
>> DFA 100 WR macro
>> Sigma 35/1.4 macro
>>
>> I always find myself wanting faster lenses, and particularly faster and 
>> wider, or faster and longer.  It must be really nice to be one of those 
>> people that only does one small subset of photography, like sports, wildlife 
>> or landscape.  I take some consolation in Moore’s Law in that as sensors get 
>> better I can use an f/2.8 lens in cases where I used to need f/1.4 or 
>> faster. Unfortunately, I now find myself photographing in even more 
>> ridiculous light levels and still needing faster glass.
>>
>> Also, unfortunately, I find myself needing autofocus more and more.  The 
>> situation could be relieved a bit with decent through the eyepiece live view 
>> with focus peaking, or a split focusing screen (katzeye), but age is taking 
>> its toll on my eyesight even faster than on my memory.
>>
>> My 77/1.8 is still one of my favorite lenses, but when photographing 
>> musicians I still want faster and longer, 85/1.4, or 135 f/2 or faster.
>>
>> In a similar vein, a lot of the night landscapes I do require faster and 
>> wider than what I have. I’ve got the Rokinon 24/1.4 which is pretty nice, 
>> and the Pentax 15-30/2.8, but I still constantly find myself up against 
>> difficulties capturing the night sky, and wanting both faster and wider 
>> glass.   It expect that better sensors, and/or better processing software 
>> could alleviate those issues.  In theory software could take multiple 
>> images, separate sky from foreground, stack and stitch them separately and 
>> put them back together in one clean photo. In theory, the software could 
>> even do something fancy with convolution and unsmear the stars.
>> While I’m off topic and talking about my software wishlist, it would be nice 
>> if I could just point my processing software and a directory, have it look 
>> at time stamps, GPS, compass and accelerometer data and automatically HDR 
>> and/or stitch any photos that could be.
>>
>> When photographing wildlife, I constantly find myself up against the length 
>> and speed limits of my bigma (50-500), I don’t know what would be better, 
>> but I do know that I can’t afford it.
>>
>> If I was shooting APS I’d definitely want the sigma f/1.8 zooms (18-35 and 
>> 50-100), if they were full frame I’d probably try to rent out my body on 
>> street corners to come up with the money.  In the department of wishing it 
>> were full frame, I could really use the 50-135/2.8 range in full frame, 
>> although a 35-100/2.8 would probably do me even more good.
>>
>> I also wish that I had weather sealed versions of pretty much all of my 
>> legacy glass. I don’t stop taking photos when the weather gets a bit damp. 
>> As has been recently observed, that’s often when the best opportunities 
>> happen.
>>
>> The DA40/2.8 was mentioned, and back in the days of my K-x that was one of 
>> my favorite walkabout lenses because it turned the K-x into practically a 
>> pocket camera.  Like the DA35 macro, it vignettes a little bit on the K-1, 
>> but is still manageable.  Processing software could solve a lot of that.
>> Speaking of software wishlists, I wish my K-1 gave me an option between APS 
>> and FF, and also that the square format option didn’t store all of the raw 
>> sensor data so that it was useful in raw mode to save the K-1 buffer space.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> l...@red4est.com


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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-02 Thread John

On 11/2/2019 17:51:10, Dale H. Cook wrote:
My wishlist for anything generally greatly exceeds the contents of my wallet. 
For now I have to be content owning a Pentax-DA 18-270mm as my walking-around 
lens, a Rokinon 650Z 650-1300mm as my long glass, and a Pentax-A 50mm f2. The 
only lens currently on my wishlist is a suitable late-model replacement for the 
50mm as I want to return it to the K-1000 and sell all of my 35mm film kit as a 
lot.


Check KEH. I frequently see the "Pentax 50mm F/1.4 SMC FA" there at "won't break 
the bank" prices.


Plus it's a full-frame lens if you ever get a K-1, although as far as I could 
tell, the "Pentax 50mm F/1.8 SMC DA" doesn't vignette on the K-1 even though 
it's technically a crop sensor lens.


They usually have that one available too.

Actually, I have you to thank for my latest acquisition. I was looking at KEH 
for sturdy tripods to recommend in response to your post lamenting that yours 
wasn't steady enough for photographing hummingbirds. After I found several good 
Gitzo/Manfrotto legs, I figured "What the heck, I'll see if they've got any 
Pentax lenses I want." ... and the FA 600/f4 just kind of fell into my lap.



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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-02 Thread Toine
My last lens, HD DA 55-300, probably makes my wanted list complete. I
do have the 60-250 which is somewhat better but a monster compared to
the tiny HD 55-300. The old 55-300 was excellent, the HD version is
even better. The other lenses on my wanted list are or were the DA35
macro, DFA 100 macro and 08 Wide zoom.

sample shot of today with lots of cropping:
https://www.repiuk.nl/content/imgp1852/lightbox/

On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 at 22:25, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
>
> > On Nov 1, 2019, at 11:12 AM, Juan Buhler  wrote:
> >
> > I figured I'd start a thread about lens lust. Note this is not "lenses I
> > need". I have too many as it is, covering every focal length I care about
> > (which doesn't go much further than 100 or 135mm anyway)
>
> I’ve been very lucky that in the past few years I’ve managed to score on 
> several of my wishlist lenses, mostly through a combination of gifts and KEH.
>
> DA 35 macro
> FA 43 ltd
> DFA 100 WR macro
> Sigma 35/1.4 macro
>
> I always find myself wanting faster lenses, and particularly faster and 
> wider, or faster and longer.  It must be really nice to be one of those 
> people that only does one small subset of photography, like sports, wildlife 
> or landscape.  I take some consolation in Moore’s Law in that as sensors get 
> better I can use an f/2.8 lens in cases where I used to need f/1.4 or faster. 
> Unfortunately, I now find myself photographing in even more ridiculous light 
> levels and still needing faster glass.
>
> Also, unfortunately, I find myself needing autofocus more and more.  The 
> situation could be relieved a bit with decent through the eyepiece live view 
> with focus peaking, or a split focusing screen (katzeye), but age is taking 
> its toll on my eyesight even faster than on my memory.
>
> My 77/1.8 is still one of my favorite lenses, but when photographing 
> musicians I still want faster and longer, 85/1.4, or 135 f/2 or faster.
>
> In a similar vein, a lot of the night landscapes I do require faster and 
> wider than what I have. I’ve got the Rokinon 24/1.4 which is pretty nice, and 
> the Pentax 15-30/2.8, but I still constantly find myself up against 
> difficulties capturing the night sky, and wanting both faster and wider 
> glass.   It expect that better sensors, and/or better processing software 
> could alleviate those issues.  In theory software could take multiple images, 
> separate sky from foreground, stack and stitch them separately and put them 
> back together in one clean photo. In theory, the software could even do 
> something fancy with convolution and unsmear the stars.
> While I’m off topic and talking about my software wishlist, it would be nice 
> if I could just point my processing software and a directory, have it look at 
> time stamps, GPS, compass and accelerometer data and automatically HDR and/or 
> stitch any photos that could be.
>
> When photographing wildlife, I constantly find myself up against the length 
> and speed limits of my bigma (50-500), I don’t know what would be better, but 
> I do know that I can’t afford it.
>
> If I was shooting APS I’d definitely want the sigma f/1.8 zooms (18-35 and 
> 50-100), if they were full frame I’d probably try to rent out my body on 
> street corners to come up with the money.  In the department of wishing it 
> were full frame, I could really use the 50-135/2.8 range in full frame, 
> although a 35-100/2.8 would probably do me even more good.
>
> I also wish that I had weather sealed versions of pretty much all of my 
> legacy glass. I don’t stop taking photos when the weather gets a bit damp. As 
> has been recently observed, that’s often when the best opportunities happen.
>
> The DA40/2.8 was mentioned, and back in the days of my K-x that was one of my 
> favorite walkabout lenses because it turned the K-x into practically a pocket 
> camera.  Like the DA35 macro, it vignettes a little bit on the K-1, but is 
> still manageable.  Processing software could solve a lot of that.
> Speaking of software wishlists, I wish my K-1 gave me an option between APS 
> and FF, and also that the square format option didn’t store all of the raw 
> sensor data so that it was useful in raw mode to save the K-1 buffer space.
>
>
>
>
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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-02 Thread Dale H. Cook
My wishlist for anything generally greatly exceeds the contents of my 
wallet. For now I have to be content owning a Pentax-DA 18-270mm as my 
walking-around lens, a Rokinon 650Z 650-1300mm as my long glass, and a 
Pentax-A 50mm f2. The only lens currently on my wishlist is a suitable 
late-model replacement for the 50mm as I want to return it to the K-1000 
and sell all of my 35mm film kit as a lot.

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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-02 Thread Larry Colen

> On Nov 1, 2019, at 11:12 AM, Juan Buhler  wrote:
> 
> I figured I'd start a thread about lens lust. Note this is not "lenses I
> need". I have too many as it is, covering every focal length I care about
> (which doesn't go much further than 100 or 135mm anyway)

I’ve been very lucky that in the past few years I’ve managed to score on 
several of my wishlist lenses, mostly through a combination of gifts and KEH.

DA 35 macro
FA 43 ltd
DFA 100 WR macro
Sigma 35/1.4 macro

I always find myself wanting faster lenses, and particularly faster and wider, 
or faster and longer.  It must be really nice to be one of those people that 
only does one small subset of photography, like sports, wildlife or landscape.  
I take some consolation in Moore’s Law in that as sensors get better I can use 
an f/2.8 lens in cases where I used to need f/1.4 or faster. Unfortunately, I 
now find myself photographing in even more ridiculous light levels and still 
needing faster glass.

Also, unfortunately, I find myself needing autofocus more and more.  The 
situation could be relieved a bit with decent through the eyepiece live view 
with focus peaking, or a split focusing screen (katzeye), but age is taking its 
toll on my eyesight even faster than on my memory.

My 77/1.8 is still one of my favorite lenses, but when photographing musicians 
I still want faster and longer, 85/1.4, or 135 f/2 or faster.

In a similar vein, a lot of the night landscapes I do require faster and wider 
than what I have. I’ve got the Rokinon 24/1.4 which is pretty nice, and the 
Pentax 15-30/2.8, but I still constantly find myself up against difficulties 
capturing the night sky, and wanting both faster and wider glass.   It expect 
that better sensors, and/or better processing software could alleviate those 
issues.  In theory software could take multiple images, separate sky from 
foreground, stack and stitch them separately and put them back together in one 
clean photo. In theory, the software could even do something fancy with 
convolution and unsmear the stars.  
While I’m off topic and talking about my software wishlist, it would be nice if 
I could just point my processing software and a directory, have it look at time 
stamps, GPS, compass and accelerometer data and automatically HDR and/or stitch 
any photos that could be.

When photographing wildlife, I constantly find myself up against the length and 
speed limits of my bigma (50-500), I don’t know what would be better, but I do 
know that I can’t afford it.

If I was shooting APS I’d definitely want the sigma f/1.8 zooms (18-35 and 
50-100), if they were full frame I’d probably try to rent out my body on street 
corners to come up with the money.  In the department of wishing it were full 
frame, I could really use the 50-135/2.8 range in full frame, although a 
35-100/2.8 would probably do me even more good.

I also wish that I had weather sealed versions of pretty much all of my legacy 
glass. I don’t stop taking photos when the weather gets a bit damp. As has been 
recently observed, that’s often when the best opportunities happen.

The DA40/2.8 was mentioned, and back in the days of my K-x that was one of my 
favorite walkabout lenses because it turned the K-x into practically a pocket 
camera.  Like the DA35 macro, it vignettes a little bit on the K-1, but is 
still manageable.  Processing software could solve a lot of that.
Speaking of software wishlists, I wish my K-1 gave me an option between APS and 
FF, and also that the square format option didn’t store all of the raw sensor 
data so that it was useful in raw mode to save the K-1 buffer space.




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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-02 Thread Larry Colen


> On Nov 2, 2019, at 6:51 AM, Bipin Gupta  wrote:
> 
> Dear Mark, you would have noticed that in the Film SLR days ALL Pentax
> Lenses were Full Frame. Even the SLR themselves were pretty small and
> petite looking.
> And these Lenses were as large or as small as the DA Lenses on the
> current crop of APSC DSLRs.
> So why NOT design all Lenses as Full Frame?

Only two reasons, size and cost.


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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-02 Thread mike wilson


> On 02 November 2019 at 13:51 Bipin Gupta  wrote:
> 

> And these Lenses were as large or as small as the DA Lenses on the
> current crop of APSC DSLRs.
> So why NOT design all Lenses as Full Frame?
> This would have kept design and manufacturing efforts and costs down.

Who needs to search?

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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-02 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The Pentax lens I always wanted is the Pentax-L 43mm f/1.9 Special that they 
produced in Leica Thread Mount for a short run of about 2000 units. Most were 
sold in Japan and still command a price around $1500 or so as a complete set 
with the matching optical viewfinder. 

A year or so back after I bought the Leica CL, I found one available in Japan 
EBay for $600 without the finder and nabbed it. It’s every bit as good a lens 
as I expected. (-:

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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-02 Thread Paul Stenquist


> On Nov 2, 2019, at 12:44 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 08:23:20AM -0400, John wrote:
>>> On 11/1/2019 19:39:33, John Francis wrote:
>>> On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 04:58:45PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
> I would think a full frame 24-70/4 is very unlikely in that Pentax 
> already offers an excellent 24-70/2.8.
 
 Yeah, it's excellent. But it's also huge compared to the 28-105.
>>> 
>>> ... and with a price tag to match!
>>> 
>>> I could never quite persuade myself I needed the older FA* 28-70/2.8
>>> to go along with the FA* 80-200/2.8 that was my main lens. But that's
>>> because I was mostly doing motorsports photography - very different
>>> from the sort of thing that Juan does - so the 28-105/f4.0-5.6 I had
>>> met my needs for the occasional pit or paddock shots.
>>> 
>>> I'm waiting to see whether the announced flagship APS-C camera body
>>> makes it all the way into production; if it does, (and assuming that
>>> it has the sort of feature upgrades that could tempt me) there's a
>>> fairly good chance I'll buy one last Pentax body. But despite what
>>> my PDML T-shirt says I'm not sure I'll be buying any more lenses;
>>> the main potential candidate - the D FA 150-450 - would add quite
>>> a bit to whatever the new body (plus grip) would cost.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> I got lucky and the one last lens that I was pining away for just happened
>> to fall into my lap this fall (even if I will still be paying for it for the
>> next three years).
> 
> My lucky moment came around 20 years ago, when the lens I'd always longed for
> (but thought I'd never own, as it wasn't cheap) turned up on the used market.
> Apparently someone who earned his living shooting NASCAR was switching from
> Pentax to Nikon, as his editors were now insisting on digital images.
> 
> I found out about this from a post on rec.photos.marketplace, which went
> something like "If you're looking for a bargain, Charlotte Camera have a
> Pentax 250-600 for sale for _only_ $3000", plus some other remarks which
> made it fairly clear the poster meant this mostly as a humorous comment.
> 
> Five minutes later I followed up with a post that said "No they don't ..."
> 
> Then I had to explain to the household expenditure committee why I'd just
> paid that much for a lens, especially since it was only a couple of months
> since I'd picked up a used A* 300/2.8 (with 1.4x and 2x teleconverters).
> 
> 
I think you were shooting with the 250-600 for the first time when I ran into 
you at the Long Beach race. Do you still use it? How is it on digital?
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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-02 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Nov 02, 2019 at 08:23:20AM -0400, John wrote:
> On 11/1/2019 19:39:33, John Francis wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 04:58:45PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
> > > Paul Stenquist wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I would think a full frame 24-70/4 is very unlikely in that Pentax 
> > > > already offers an excellent 24-70/2.8.
> > > 
> > > Yeah, it's excellent. But it's also huge compared to the 28-105.
> > 
> > ... and with a price tag to match!
> > 
> > I could never quite persuade myself I needed the older FA* 28-70/2.8
> > to go along with the FA* 80-200/2.8 that was my main lens. But that's
> > because I was mostly doing motorsports photography - very different
> > from the sort of thing that Juan does - so the 28-105/f4.0-5.6 I had
> > met my needs for the occasional pit or paddock shots.
> > 
> > I'm waiting to see whether the announced flagship APS-C camera body
> > makes it all the way into production; if it does, (and assuming that
> > it has the sort of feature upgrades that could tempt me) there's a
> > fairly good chance I'll buy one last Pentax body. But despite what
> > my PDML T-shirt says I'm not sure I'll be buying any more lenses;
> > the main potential candidate - the D FA 150-450 - would add quite
> > a bit to whatever the new body (plus grip) would cost.
> > 
> > 
> 
> I got lucky and the one last lens that I was pining away for just happened
> to fall into my lap this fall (even if I will still be paying for it for the
> next three years).

My lucky moment came around 20 years ago, when the lens I'd always longed for
(but thought I'd never own, as it wasn't cheap) turned up on the used market.
Apparently someone who earned his living shooting NASCAR was switching from
Pentax to Nikon, as his editors were now insisting on digital images.

I found out about this from a post on rec.photos.marketplace, which went
something like "If you're looking for a bargain, Charlotte Camera have a
Pentax 250-600 for sale for _only_ $3000", plus some other remarks which
made it fairly clear the poster meant this mostly as a humorous comment.

Five minutes later I followed up with a post that said "No they don't ..."

Then I had to explain to the household expenditure committee why I'd just
paid that much for a lens, especially since it was only a couple of months
since I'd picked up a used A* 300/2.8 (with 1.4x and 2x teleconverters).


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Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-02 Thread Bipin Gupta
Dear Mark, you would have noticed that in the Film SLR days ALL Pentax
Lenses were Full Frame. Even the SLR themselves were pretty small and
petite looking.
And these Lenses were as large or as small as the DA Lenses on the
current crop of APSC DSLRs.
So why NOT design all Lenses as Full Frame?
This would have kept design and manufacturing efforts and costs down.
Now please don't start searching for a Technical reason why this is
detrimental to Photography.
I just responded to your thread "I want a full-frame version of this lens".
As for Lenses I am a zoom lover - covered between 10 & 300 mm as I am
not into wild life, nature or sports photography - so do not need
longer lenses. No GAS.
Now all my Zooms are brutally sharp.
How do I assure this?? Simple: I will go on buying lenses till I find
the sharpest one. That's the Keeper.
I do have some Prime Lenses because of their f1.2 or f1.4 Apertures
for special Low Light Photography or DOF needs.
Thanks for reading.
Bipin.
Toronto & Bangalore

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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-02 Thread John

On 11/1/2019 19:39:33, John Francis wrote:

On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 04:58:45PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:

Paul Stenquist wrote:


I would think a full frame 24-70/4 is very unlikely in that Pentax already 
offers an excellent 24-70/2.8.


Yeah, it's excellent. But it's also huge compared to the 28-105.


... and with a price tag to match!

I could never quite persuade myself I needed the older FA* 28-70/2.8
to go along with the FA* 80-200/2.8 that was my main lens. But that's
because I was mostly doing motorsports photography - very different
from the sort of thing that Juan does - so the 28-105/f4.0-5.6 I had
met my needs for the occasional pit or paddock shots.

I'm waiting to see whether the announced flagship APS-C camera body
makes it all the way into production; if it does, (and assuming that
it has the sort of feature upgrades that could tempt me) there's a
fairly good chance I'll buy one last Pentax body. But despite what
my PDML T-shirt says I'm not sure I'll be buying any more lenses;
the main potential candidate - the D FA 150-450 - would add quite
a bit to whatever the new body (plus grip) would cost.




I got lucky and the one last lens that I was pining away for just happened to 
fall into my lap this fall (even if I will still be paying for it for the next 
three years).


I think I've now got not only everything I need, but everything I wanted ... 
unless I run across a Tokina ATX-Pro 287 28-70 f/2.8 to replace the one I wore 
out. I've got the Sigma 24-70, but I don't love it the way I loved that Tokina lens.


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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-01 Thread Pat Temmerman
Have the DA21... would love if it were fully WP (I live in Scotland. 
Rain is real.)


On 01/11/2019 23:39, John Francis wrote:

On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 04:58:45PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:

Paul Stenquist wrote:


I would think a full frame 24-70/4 is very unlikely in that Pentax already 
offers an excellent 24-70/2.8.

Yeah, it's excellent. But it's also huge compared to the 28-105.

... and with a price tag to match!

I could never quite persuade myself I needed the older FA* 28-70/2.8
to go along with the FA* 80-200/2.8 that was my main lens. But that's
because I was mostly doing motorsports photography - very different
from the sort of thing that Juan does - so the 28-105/f4.0-5.6 I had
met my needs for the occasional pit or paddock shots.

I'm waiting to see whether the announced flagship APS-C camera body
makes it all the way into production; if it does, (and assuming that
it has the sort of feature upgrades that could tempt me) there's a
fairly good chance I'll buy one last Pentax body. But despite what
my PDML T-shirt says I'm not sure I'll be buying any more lenses;
the main potential candidate - the D FA 150-450 - would add quite
a bit to whatever the new body (plus grip) would cost.




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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-01 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 04:58:45PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
> >I would think a full frame 24-70/4 is very unlikely in that Pentax already 
> >offers an excellent 24-70/2.8.
> 
> Yeah, it's excellent. But it's also huge compared to the 28-105.

... and with a price tag to match!

I could never quite persuade myself I needed the older FA* 28-70/2.8
to go along with the FA* 80-200/2.8 that was my main lens. But that's
because I was mostly doing motorsports photography - very different
from the sort of thing that Juan does - so the 28-105/f4.0-5.6 I had
met my needs for the occasional pit or paddock shots.

I'm waiting to see whether the announced flagship APS-C camera body
makes it all the way into production; if it does, (and assuming that
it has the sort of feature upgrades that could tempt me) there's a
fairly good chance I'll buy one last Pentax body. But despite what
my PDML T-shirt says I'm not sure I'll be buying any more lenses; 
the main potential candidate - the D FA 150-450 - would add quite
a bit to whatever the new body (plus grip) would cost.


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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-01 Thread Juan Buhler
On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 12:09 PM Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:

>
> I'm about to sell a load of M and A primes because my old eyes aren't
> good at focussing anymore, including a M3.5/28 and a M4/20.
>
>
Make sure to post here when you do, who knows... :)

j

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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote:

>I would think a full frame 24-70/4 is very unlikely in that Pentax already 
>offers an excellent 24-70/2.8.

Yeah, it's excellent. But it's also huge compared to the 28-105.

 
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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
I would think a full frame 24-70/4 is very unlikely in that Pentax already 
offers an excellent 24-70/2.8.

Paul

> On Nov 1, 2019, at 3:08 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Juan Buhler wrote:
> 
>> I figured I'd start a thread about lens lust. Note this is not "lenses I
>> need". I have too many as it is, covering every focal length I care about
>> (which doesn't go much further than 100 or 135mm anyway)
>> 
>> DA15/4: I have the DA21mm, and it's an awesome lens. Seems like the 15
>> would be a great companion to it. I don't really need it, since I have some
>> zooms that cover this focal length, plus I haven't been shooting with the
>> KP much anyway.
> 
> I'd love to have this lens for the K-01 I use for street shooting. But
> I just can't justify the expense.
> 
>> DA20-40: This seems like the perfect street lens for the KP. Been wanting
>> it since it came out, but never pulled the trigger. Again, I already have
>> other lenses covering this range.
> 
> I want a full-frame version of this lens. It would my daily choice on
> the K-1.
> 
> What I'm wishing for is a slower (say f/3.5 or 4) 24-70 weather sealed
> zoom for full-frame. I have the 28-105 f/3.5-5.6 and it's a great lens
> that's my main choice for hiking but I'd happily sacrifice 35mm on the
> long end to get an extra 5mm on the wide end.
> 
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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-01 Thread Ralf R Radermacher

Am 01.11.19 um 19:12 schrieb Juan Buhler:


M20/4: I don't know why I want this one, I just do. I really like the M
lenses.


A nice lens if you have a thing for primes. On the downside it's not
faster than most wide-angle zooms. Have one in my camera bag (aka The
Millstone) and haven't used it for years.


M40/2.8: I just always wanted that little pancake lens.


I've had one and sold it, years ago. A typical Tessar design:
pseudo-sharp with godawful bokeh. OK if you want something that can be
put on a MX and still fits into your pocket. Optically, there are far
better lenses.


M28/3.5: This was my main 28, my copy seemed to be a lot sharper than what
should be legal.


That's indeed a really nice lens. A somewhat wider standard lens on APS-C.


How about you? Any lenses you've always wanted but haven't gotten around to
getting? Any opinions on that list above?


The lenses I'd want all don't exist and probably never will: faster
zooms without the bulk.

I'm about to sell a load of M and A primes because my old eyes aren't
good at focussing anymore, including a M3.5/28 and a M4/20.

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Re: Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Juan Buhler wrote:

>I figured I'd start a thread about lens lust. Note this is not "lenses I
>need". I have too many as it is, covering every focal length I care about
>(which doesn't go much further than 100 or 135mm anyway)
>
>DA15/4: I have the DA21mm, and it's an awesome lens. Seems like the 15
>would be a great companion to it. I don't really need it, since I have some
>zooms that cover this focal length, plus I haven't been shooting with the
>KP much anyway.

I'd love to have this lens for the K-01 I use for street shooting. But
I just can't justify the expense.

>DA20-40: This seems like the perfect street lens for the KP. Been wanting
>it since it came out, but never pulled the trigger. Again, I already have
>other lenses covering this range.

I want a full-frame version of this lens. It would my daily choice on
the K-1.

What I'm wishing for is a slower (say f/3.5 or 4) 24-70 weather sealed
zoom for full-frame. I have the 28-105 f/3.5-5.6 and it's a great lens
that's my main choice for hiking but I'd happily sacrifice 35mm on the
long end to get an extra 5mm on the wide end.
 
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Pentax lenses I want

2019-11-01 Thread Juan Buhler
I figured I'd start a thread about lens lust. Note this is not "lenses I
need". I have too many as it is, covering every focal length I care about
(which doesn't go much further than 100 or 135mm anyway)

DA15/4: I have the DA21mm, and it's an awesome lens. Seems like the 15
would be a great companion to it. I don't really need it, since I have some
zooms that cover this focal length, plus I haven't been shooting with the
KP much anyway.

M20/4: I don't know why I want this one, I just do. I really like the M
lenses. I do have the DA21 Limited for APS, and the Sigma 20/2.8 for APS on
the Sony, and an awesome Zeiss 21/2.8 for full frame on Leicas and Sonys.
And that's without counting the zooms that cover that both on APS and full
frame: I have a 17-70/4, a 12-24/4, and a Canon 17-40/4 that covers full
frame with fast AF via an adaptor on the Sony.

M40/2.8: I just always wanted that little pancake lens. Don't need it, as I
have tons of both 35mm and 50mm lenses, plus a really nice Konica Hexanon
40mm/1.8 that is perfect for the A7ii.

DA20-40: This seems like the perfect street lens for the KP. Been wanting
it since it came out, but never pulled the trigger. Again, I already have
other lenses covering this range.

K85/1.8: I had this lens. It fell from my motorcycle jacket the day I was
getting my istD back in 2004. I never saw it again. It's not a FL I
regularly use so it's hard to justify. I had found it in pristine condition
for under $100 back in the late 90s.

M28/3.5: This was my main 28, my copy seemed to be a lot sharper than what
should be legal. I lost it years ago. I do have an M28/2.8 and the
FA28/2.8, plus a Takumar 28/3.5 (the big barreled one). Oh and I do have
the awesome K30/2.8 and a bunch of other 28s for other mounts, so it's
super hard to justify buying this one.

Takumar 50/1.4, 8 element: I REALLY don't need this. My best 50mms are a
Summicron, the A50/1.4, maybe the M50/1.7 or FA50/1.7 (yes, I have all
those plus a lot more 50s!)

K50/1.2: Again, I don't need another 50. But it sure would be nice to play
with that extra third of a stop.

How about you? Any lenses you've always wanted but haven't gotten around to
getting? Any opinions on that list above?

j

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