Re: Pentax photo gallery morphing into another community site?
It depends on which browser you are using, I think. Last night I had the same page up in IE v6 and FireFox 2.0 simultaneously, and the extra radiobuttons were only present in FireFox. Jostein 2007/7/12, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Just got back on and found they have changed the rating system a > little bit. There is no longer any radio buttons on the far right > side - just up/down arrows. It also seemed to only show me new photos > to rate. Went pretty well until the end. The end had only two - > after clicking submit I got a screenful of text like the program > dumped. Anyway, they seem to be improving it. > > -- > Bruce > > > Wednesday, July 11, 2007, 2:18:17 PM, you wrote: > > A> Yup, > A> I got it wrong. > A> But I do have a couple of suggestions to improve the workflow for the > A> reviewing photographer, though. :-) > A> Jostein > > A> 2007/7/11, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > IMHO it's not a mark of good design when people feel obliged to wade > >> > through 50-60 images like Jack did. > >> > >> Did I miss something? > >> No one is obliged to wade thru the images. You opt in if you wish. > >> > >> Kenneth Waller > >> > >> Original Message - > >> From: "AlunFoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Subject: Re: Pentax photo gallery morphing into another community site? > >> > >> > >> > It was late when I logged on, so I might have missed some details. > >> > However, the site requires consent to your taking part in this > >> > project, by ticking a box. I was pretty tired last night, so I > >> > couldn't figure out what the consequences would be of not accepting > >> > the deal. Besides, I was curious enough to want to see what it was. > >> > :-) > >> > > >> > You can skip the evaluation page and go to your own pics, your > >> > profile, etc. anytime you like. One curious thing I noticed was that > >> > navigating away from the evaluation page and back again would bring up > >> > a different set of pictures. Seems like the set you're presented with > >> > is selected by random. > >> > > >> > I think the jury's still out on the convenience of this function, but > >> > IMHO it's not a mark of good design when people feel obliged to wade > >> > through 50-60 images like Jack did. > >> > > >> > Jostein > >> > > >> > 2007/7/11, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> >> I voted on what was probably 50 or 60 images when the screen came up > >> >> with a page announcing that the Pentax site was extremely busy and > >> >> would have to end current contact. Was glad it had ended for the > >> >> moment. > >> >> > >> >> Jack > >> >> --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Yes, I found the same thing. I went ahead and voted on all the > >> >> > photos > >> >> > that were presented to me. > >> >> > > >> >> > It was a bit odd because once I got to the last one, the first ones > >> >> > were shown again allowing me to vote on them. Doesn't seem like the > >> >> > system is foolproof yet. > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Bruce > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 2:41:52 PM, you wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > A> Just logged on to see how the last batch of upload had fared, and > >> >> > was > >> >> > A> met with the below text. > >> >> > > >> >> > A> Anyone picked up news about this before? > >> >> > > >> >> > A> Jostein > >> >> > > >> >> > A> === Quote start = > >> >> > A> As an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery you have the > >> >> > ability > >> >> > A> to help in the image selection process. Only approved artists can > >> >> > A> participate in the voting process. > >> >> > > >> >> > A> Our goal is to receive fair and unbiased input to help in the > >> >> > A> selection process. To this end, Photo Gallery participants cannot > >> >> &g
Re: Pentax photo gallery morphing into another community site?
Just got back on and found they have changed the rating system a little bit. There is no longer any radio buttons on the far right side - just up/down arrows. It also seemed to only show me new photos to rate. Went pretty well until the end. The end had only two - after clicking submit I got a screenful of text like the program dumped. Anyway, they seem to be improving it. -- Bruce Wednesday, July 11, 2007, 2:18:17 PM, you wrote: A> Yup, A> I got it wrong. A> But I do have a couple of suggestions to improve the workflow for the A> reviewing photographer, though. :-) A> Jostein A> 2007/7/11, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > IMHO it's not a mark of good design when people feel obliged to wade >> > through 50-60 images like Jack did. >> >> Did I miss something? >> No one is obliged to wade thru the images. You opt in if you wish. >> >> Kenneth Waller >> >> ---- Original Message ----- >> From: "AlunFoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: Pentax photo gallery morphing into another community site? >> >> >> > It was late when I logged on, so I might have missed some details. >> > However, the site requires consent to your taking part in this >> > project, by ticking a box. I was pretty tired last night, so I >> > couldn't figure out what the consequences would be of not accepting >> > the deal. Besides, I was curious enough to want to see what it was. >> > :-) >> > >> > You can skip the evaluation page and go to your own pics, your >> > profile, etc. anytime you like. One curious thing I noticed was that >> > navigating away from the evaluation page and back again would bring up >> > a different set of pictures. Seems like the set you're presented with >> > is selected by random. >> > >> > I think the jury's still out on the convenience of this function, but >> > IMHO it's not a mark of good design when people feel obliged to wade >> > through 50-60 images like Jack did. >> > >> > Jostein >> > >> > 2007/7/11, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> I voted on what was probably 50 or 60 images when the screen came up >> >> with a page announcing that the Pentax site was extremely busy and >> >> would have to end current contact. Was glad it had ended for the >> >> moment. >> >> >> >> Jack >> >> --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Yes, I found the same thing. I went ahead and voted on all the >> >> > photos >> >> > that were presented to me. >> >> > >> >> > It was a bit odd because once I got to the last one, the first ones >> >> > were shown again allowing me to vote on them. Doesn't seem like the >> >> > system is foolproof yet. >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Bruce >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 2:41:52 PM, you wrote: >> >> > >> >> > A> Just logged on to see how the last batch of upload had fared, and >> >> > was >> >> > A> met with the below text. >> >> > >> >> > A> Anyone picked up news about this before? >> >> > >> >> > A> Jostein >> >> > >> >> > A> === Quote start = >> >> > A> As an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery you have the >> >> > ability >> >> > A> to help in the image selection process. Only approved artists can >> >> > A> participate in the voting process. >> >> > >> >> > A> Our goal is to receive fair and unbiased input to help in the >> >> > A> selection process. To this end, Photo Gallery participants cannot >> >> > vote >> >> > A> on their own photos. The photographer of each image available for >> >> > A> voting will remain anonymous during this process. To further >> >> > protect >> >> > A> the process, your vote, either positive or negative, cannot be >> >> > viewed >> >> > A> by the photographer. >> >> > >> >> > A> PENTAX retains the rights to the final selection process; however, >> >> > A> your vote helps narrow the field to the best images. PENTAX >> >> > reserves >> >> > A> the right to decline an image for any reason even if the image has >> >> > A> received positive votes. This can be due to various reasons >> >> > including, >> >> > A> but not limited to, subject matter, incompatible aspect ratios, >> >> > the >> >> > A> inclusion of watermarks or copyrights, resolution, or the quality >> >> > of >> >> > A> the image. >> >> > >> >> > A> Please vote based on the technical and artistic merits of each >> >> > image. >> >> > A> When reviewing images please consider composition, exposure, >> >> > subject >> >> > A> matter, lighting, focus and other image aspects. >> >> > >> >> > A> === Quote end = >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> A> -- A> http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ A> http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax photo gallery morphing into another community site?
Yup, I got it wrong. But I do have a couple of suggestions to improve the workflow for the reviewing photographer, though. :-) Jostein 2007/7/11, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > IMHO it's not a mark of good design when people feel obliged to wade > > through 50-60 images like Jack did. > > Did I miss something? > No one is obliged to wade thru the images. You opt in if you wish. > > Kenneth Waller > > Original Message - > From: "AlunFoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Pentax photo gallery morphing into another community site? > > > > It was late when I logged on, so I might have missed some details. > > However, the site requires consent to your taking part in this > > project, by ticking a box. I was pretty tired last night, so I > > couldn't figure out what the consequences would be of not accepting > > the deal. Besides, I was curious enough to want to see what it was. > > :-) > > > > You can skip the evaluation page and go to your own pics, your > > profile, etc. anytime you like. One curious thing I noticed was that > > navigating away from the evaluation page and back again would bring up > > a different set of pictures. Seems like the set you're presented with > > is selected by random. > > > > I think the jury's still out on the convenience of this function, but > > IMHO it's not a mark of good design when people feel obliged to wade > > through 50-60 images like Jack did. > > > > Jostein > > > > 2007/7/11, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> I voted on what was probably 50 or 60 images when the screen came up > >> with a page announcing that the Pentax site was extremely busy and > >> would have to end current contact. Was glad it had ended for the > >> moment. > >> > >> Jack > >> --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > Yes, I found the same thing. I went ahead and voted on all the > >> > photos > >> > that were presented to me. > >> > > >> > It was a bit odd because once I got to the last one, the first ones > >> > were shown again allowing me to vote on them. Doesn't seem like the > >> > system is foolproof yet. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Bruce > >> > > >> > > >> > Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 2:41:52 PM, you wrote: > >> > > >> > A> Just logged on to see how the last batch of upload had fared, and > >> > was > >> > A> met with the below text. > >> > > >> > A> Anyone picked up news about this before? > >> > > >> > A> Jostein > >> > > >> > A> === Quote start = > >> > A> As an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery you have the > >> > ability > >> > A> to help in the image selection process. Only approved artists can > >> > A> participate in the voting process. > >> > > >> > A> Our goal is to receive fair and unbiased input to help in the > >> > A> selection process. To this end, Photo Gallery participants cannot > >> > vote > >> > A> on their own photos. The photographer of each image available for > >> > A> voting will remain anonymous during this process. To further > >> > protect > >> > A> the process, your vote, either positive or negative, cannot be > >> > viewed > >> > A> by the photographer. > >> > > >> > A> PENTAX retains the rights to the final selection process; however, > >> > A> your vote helps narrow the field to the best images. PENTAX > >> > reserves > >> > A> the right to decline an image for any reason even if the image has > >> > A> received positive votes. This can be due to various reasons > >> > including, > >> > A> but not limited to, subject matter, incompatible aspect ratios, > >> > the > >> > A> inclusion of watermarks or copyrights, resolution, or the quality > >> > of > >> > A> the image. > >> > > >> > A> Please vote based on the technical and artistic merits of each > >> > image. > >> > A> When reviewing images please consider composition, exposure, > >> > subject > >> > A> matter, lighting, focus and other image aspects. > >> > > >> > A> === Quote end = > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax photo gallery morphing into another community site?
> IMHO it's not a mark of good design when people feel obliged to wade > through 50-60 images like Jack did. Did I miss something? No one is obliged to wade thru the images. You opt in if you wish. Kenneth Waller Original Message - From: "AlunFoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Pentax photo gallery morphing into another community site? > It was late when I logged on, so I might have missed some details. > However, the site requires consent to your taking part in this > project, by ticking a box. I was pretty tired last night, so I > couldn't figure out what the consequences would be of not accepting > the deal. Besides, I was curious enough to want to see what it was. > :-) > > You can skip the evaluation page and go to your own pics, your > profile, etc. anytime you like. One curious thing I noticed was that > navigating away from the evaluation page and back again would bring up > a different set of pictures. Seems like the set you're presented with > is selected by random. > > I think the jury's still out on the convenience of this function, but > IMHO it's not a mark of good design when people feel obliged to wade > through 50-60 images like Jack did. > > Jostein > > 2007/7/11, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> I voted on what was probably 50 or 60 images when the screen came up >> with a page announcing that the Pentax site was extremely busy and >> would have to end current contact. Was glad it had ended for the >> moment. >> >> Jack >> --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > Yes, I found the same thing. I went ahead and voted on all the >> > photos >> > that were presented to me. >> > >> > It was a bit odd because once I got to the last one, the first ones >> > were shown again allowing me to vote on them. Doesn't seem like the >> > system is foolproof yet. >> > >> > -- >> > Bruce >> > >> > >> > Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 2:41:52 PM, you wrote: >> > >> > A> Just logged on to see how the last batch of upload had fared, and >> > was >> > A> met with the below text. >> > >> > A> Anyone picked up news about this before? >> > >> > A> Jostein >> > >> > A> === Quote start = >> > A> As an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery you have the >> > ability >> > A> to help in the image selection process. Only approved artists can >> > A> participate in the voting process. >> > >> > A> Our goal is to receive fair and unbiased input to help in the >> > A> selection process. To this end, Photo Gallery participants cannot >> > vote >> > A> on their own photos. The photographer of each image available for >> > A> voting will remain anonymous during this process. To further >> > protect >> > A> the process, your vote, either positive or negative, cannot be >> > viewed >> > A> by the photographer. >> > >> > A> PENTAX retains the rights to the final selection process; however, >> > A> your vote helps narrow the field to the best images. PENTAX >> > reserves >> > A> the right to decline an image for any reason even if the image has >> > A> received positive votes. This can be due to various reasons >> > including, >> > A> but not limited to, subject matter, incompatible aspect ratios, >> > the >> > A> inclusion of watermarks or copyrights, resolution, or the quality >> > of >> > A> the image. >> > >> > A> Please vote based on the technical and artistic merits of each >> > image. >> > A> When reviewing images please consider composition, exposure, >> > subject >> > A> matter, lighting, focus and other image aspects. >> > >> > A> === Quote end = -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax photo gallery morphing into another community site?
Well said, Mark. I kinda regret the title I put on this thread. Jostein 2007/7/11, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Scott Loveless wrote: > > >Assuming that the "official" judges are > >employed by either Pentax or a company contracted by Pentax to operate > >the gallery, they have an obligation to properly select photos that > meet > >Pentax's criteria. One could also assume that Pentax is interested in > >displaying photos that demonstrate the benefits of owning a Pentax > >camera. Regardless, the judges have some motivation for doing their > job > >per Pentax's instructions - employment. I have no idea what qualifies > >the judges for their jobs, but I hope they have a background in > photography. > > > >Lots of assumptions, huh? I don't think they're too far fetched, > though. > > >From the feedback we've received from people at the Gallery, I'm pretty > sure the official judges do have a good background in photography. > > The rate at which submitted images have been getting approved (or not!) > has been getting slower and slower (I'd almost given up on submitting > because of it). They're clearly unable to keep pace. Since there is no > fee for participating in the Gallery, it's safe to assume they don't > have the budget to simply hire more staff. It seems to me they've found > a very reasonable way to deal with the situation: Leave final say with > the official Judges but give the Gallery members an initial say in what > makes the cut. It may not be perfect, but it seems like an excellent > compromise given the constraints they're under. > > I just did some browsing through the Gallery and was pretty much > knocked out by the quality of photographs on display. I have no problem > at all with my work being judged by the people who produced such work > (especially as they're just providing a first-level filter for the > official judges). > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax photo gallery morphing into another community site?
Me too! Jack --- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scott Loveless wrote: > > >Assuming that the "official" judges are > >employed by either Pentax or a company contracted by Pentax to > operate > >the gallery, they have an obligation to properly select photos that > meet > >Pentax's criteria. One could also assume that Pentax is interested > in > >displaying photos that demonstrate the benefits of owning a Pentax > >camera. Regardless, the judges have some motivation for doing their > > job > >per Pentax's instructions - employment. I have no idea what > qualifies > >the judges for their jobs, but I hope they have a background in > photography. > > > >Lots of assumptions, huh? I don't think they're too far fetched, > though. > > >From the feedback we've received from people at the Gallery, I'm > pretty > sure the official judges do have a good background in photography. > > The rate at which submitted images have been getting approved (or > not!) > has been getting slower and slower (I'd almost given up on submitting > > because of it). They're clearly unable to keep pace. Since there is > no > fee for participating in the Gallery, it's safe to assume they don't > have the budget to simply hire more staff. It seems to me they've > found > a very reasonable way to deal with the situation: Leave final say > with > the official Judges but give the Gallery members an initial say in > what > makes the cut. It may not be perfect, but it seems like an excellent > compromise given the constraints they're under. > > I just did some browsing through the Gallery and was pretty much > knocked out by the quality of photographs on display. I have no > problem > at all with my work being judged by the people who produced such work > > (especially as they're just providing a first-level filter for the > official judges). > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax photo gallery morphing into another community site?
Scott Loveless wrote: >Assuming that the "official" judges are >employed by either Pentax or a company contracted by Pentax to operate >the gallery, they have an obligation to properly select photos that meet >Pentax's criteria. One could also assume that Pentax is interested in >displaying photos that demonstrate the benefits of owning a Pentax >camera. Regardless, the judges have some motivation for doing their job >per Pentax's instructions - employment. I have no idea what qualifies >the judges for their jobs, but I hope they have a background in photography. > >Lots of assumptions, huh? I don't think they're too far fetched, though. >From the feedback we've received from people at the Gallery, I'm pretty sure the official judges do have a good background in photography. The rate at which submitted images have been getting approved (or not!) has been getting slower and slower (I'd almost given up on submitting because of it). They're clearly unable to keep pace. Since there is no fee for participating in the Gallery, it's safe to assume they don't have the budget to simply hire more staff. It seems to me they've found a very reasonable way to deal with the situation: Leave final say with the official Judges but give the Gallery members an initial say in what makes the cut. It may not be perfect, but it seems like an excellent compromise given the constraints they're under. I just did some browsing through the Gallery and was pretty much knocked out by the quality of photographs on display. I have no problem at all with my work being judged by the people who produced such work (especially as they're just providing a first-level filter for the official judges). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax photo gallery morphing into another community site?
Mark Roberts wrote: > Scott Loveless wrote: > > >> Unless I'm missing something obvious, other than a brand name >there is >> > nothing to separate the critiquing abilities of Pentax users > >> vs. those people in the "deleteme" flickr group. With their new >> peer review system the judges might not even see an HCB photo >> because it's too blurry, or miss out on a wonderful photograph >> because a few site users don't appreciate its content. >> > > That's true, but you're making an awful lot of assumptions on how the > system works. For all we know, they may be using the member votes as > simply an advisory and allowing the "official" judges to still pick > anything they like. That's certainly how I'd do it - for exactly the > reasons you note, but we simply don't know. > You could be right, and I hope you are. But I really think they're using the voting system to weed out the bad photos so the judges only have to look at the good ones. There is probably nothing to prevent them from looking at the pictures that were voted down. How does one decide which "bad" photos to look at? And if they're going to look at them at all, what's the point of having the users vote? It certainly won't save them much time. From the FAQ: *How does my vote influence what images appear on the Photo Gallery?* Your vote determines what images are presented to the selection committee. The Photo Gallery artist community makes sure the best images are presented for acceptance. *What happens to my votes?* Your votes are used to sort the images so that the best are presented to the acceptance committee. PENTAX makes the final determination of which images will appear in the Gallery. Sounds to me that once our peers vote down a photo it's most likely gone and forgotten. > >> I'm certainly not qualified to judge other's photographs. >> > > I definitely disagree with you on that one ;-) > > Next time you show us an unbelievably good print at GFM I'm going to say it's crap. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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David Savage wrote: > On 7/11/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I'm certainly not qualified to judge other's photographs. I don't want >> my photos shot down by some other equally unqualified user who's allowed >> to rate a photo simply because he lucked out and shot something decent >> once. >> > > What makes you think the Pentax galleries judges are any more > qualified than you or I? > That's a good question. Assuming that the "official" judges are employed by either Pentax or a company contracted by Pentax to operate the gallery, they have an obligation to properly select photos that meet Pentax's criteria. One could also assume that Pentax is interested in displaying photos that demonstrate the benefits of owning a Pentax camera. Regardless, the judges have some motivation for doing their job per Pentax's instructions - employment. I have no idea what qualifies the judges for their jobs, but I hope they have a background in photography. Lots of assumptions, huh? I don't think they're too far fetched, though. > I'm not qualified to judge other peoples photos, but I gave it a go anyway. > :-) > > Cheers, > > Dave > > -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Doug Franklin wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >>[...] if the photo.net model of peer evaluation is any indication >>of how well this might work. Well, it won't. Not a good idea in my >>estimation. >> >> > >The "Average Idiot" got that name for a reason. > > > Boy, am I glad I didn't put any effort into that... smugmug has a very annoying feature of "thumbs up and thumbs down" for comments that if you switch it on you get into the "most popular" page - I deliberately turned that off... for one thing, there is a bar that comes out with the thumbs on it in front of the image you are viewing.. for another, most of the heavy hits on the most popular page seem to be photos of the photographers friends and family being looked at over and over by them and while there are occasionally excellent photos there, I really think it is a bit tacky. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Scott Loveless wrote: >Unless I'm missing something obvious, other than a brand name >there is nothing to separate the critiquing abilities of Pentax users >vs. those people in the "deleteme" flickr group. With their new >peer review system the judges might not even see an HCB photo >because it's too blurry, or miss out on a wonderful photograph >because a few site users don't appreciate its content. That's true, but you're making an awful lot of assumptions on how the system works. For all we know, they may be using the member votes as simply an advisory and allowing the "official" judges to still pick anything they like. That's certainly how I'd do it - for exactly the reasons you note, but we simply don't know. >I'm certainly not qualified to judge other's photographs. I definitely disagree with you on that one ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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David Savage wrote: >It was news to me. I haven't submitted anything or checked on the site >in a couple of months. > >I just voted on a few, and guess what I came across, a shot taken from >the car park at GFM. I wonder who's shot it was? Not mine. I've only sent them one "GFM Car Park" shot and that was accepted months ago. I do have one GFM shot in the queue, but it's a shot from Watauga View, which is three miles out on the trail - about as far out as you can get before you start getting closer to roads instead of farther away! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Reads to me like that's exactly the intent. They clearly state that the final decision on those images ultimately offered to their judges, will be that of Pentax. Jack --- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul Stenquist wrote: > > >Yes, enough is enough. And if the photo.net model of peer evaluation > > >is any indication of how well this might work. Well, it won't. Not a > > >good idea in my estimation. > > >From the way I read it, they seem to be asking for input from > gallery > contributors, but not choosing photos by that means exclusively. In > other words, their judges will still have some (I'd guess, final) > say. > > No telling for certain but if this is the case but I'd say it's a > good > idea: Get gallery members to separate the wheat from the chaff and > then > have the official judges make the final cut. > > They certainly need to do *something* to reduce their turnaround > time. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Jostine, I think that decision is up to the individual. No reason I couldn't have ended it any time I wished, but I was curious as to what images might come up. I did recognize a couple of them from previously being seen as list PESO's. Jack --- AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It was late when I logged on, so I might have missed some details. > However, the site requires consent to your taking part in this > project, by ticking a box. I was pretty tired last night, so I > couldn't figure out what the consequences would be of not accepting > the deal. Besides, I was curious enough to want to see what it was. > :-) > > You can skip the evaluation page and go to your own pics, your > profile, etc. anytime you like. One curious thing I noticed was that > navigating away from the evaluation page and back again would bring > up > a different set of pictures. Seems like the set you're presented with > is selected by random. > > I think the jury's still out on the convenience of this function, but > IMHO it's not a mark of good design when people feel obliged to wade > through 50-60 images like Jack did. > > Jostein > > 2007/7/11, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I voted on what was probably 50 or 60 images when the screen came > up > > with a page announcing that the Pentax site was extremely busy and > > would have to end current contact. Was glad it had ended for the > > moment. > > > > Jack > > --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Yes, I found the same thing. I went ahead and voted on all the > > > photos > > > that were presented to me. > > > > > > It was a bit odd because once I got to the last one, the first > ones > > > were shown again allowing me to vote on them. Doesn't seem like > the > > > system is foolproof yet. > > > > > > -- > > > Bruce > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 2:41:52 PM, you wrote: > > > > > > A> Just logged on to see how the last batch of upload had fared, > and > > > was > > > A> met with the below text. > > > > > > A> Anyone picked up news about this before? > > > > > > A> Jostein > > > > > > A> === Quote start = > > > A> As an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery you have the > > > ability > > > A> to help in the image selection process. Only approved artists > can > > > A> participate in the voting process. > > > > > > A> Our goal is to receive fair and unbiased input to help in the > > > A> selection process. To this end, Photo Gallery participants > cannot > > > vote > > > A> on their own photos. The photographer of each image available > for > > > A> voting will remain anonymous during this process. To further > > > protect > > > A> the process, your vote, either positive or negative, cannot be > > > viewed > > > A> by the photographer. > > > > > > A> PENTAX retains the rights to the final selection process; > however, > > > A> your vote helps narrow the field to the best images. PENTAX > > > reserves > > > A> the right to decline an image for any reason even if the image > has > > > A> received positive votes. This can be due to various reasons > > > including, > > > A> but not limited to, subject matter, incompatible aspect > ratios, > > > the > > > A> inclusion of watermarks or copyrights, resolution, or the > quality > > > of > > > A> the image. > > > > > > A> Please vote based on the technical and artistic merits of each > > > image. > > > A> When reviewing images please consider composition, exposure, > > > subject > > > A> matter, lighting, focus and other image aspects. > > > > > > A> === Quote end = > > > > > > A> -- > > > A> http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ > > > A> http://alunfoto.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search > > > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > -- > http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ > http://alunfoto.blogspot.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I appreciate that way of reading it too. Now, due to a cancelled meeting at work I got an extended lunchbreak today, and spent some time voting for photos. Think I've been through about 140-150 by now. Three things have occured to me in the process. The first was that the page is pretty slow to load. The second was that it should have been possible to go from one large pic to the next directly, without going back to thumbnails. The third was that I have already recognised some images previously submitted as PESOs or parts of GESOs to this list. I'm not at all sure if, or in what way, this will bias my judgement... Jostein 2007/7/11, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Kenneth Waller wrote: > > >> So the Pentax Photo Gallery will become a self selecting clique, > > > >Not my take on what was presented. > > > >>"Our goal is to receive fair and unbiased input to help in the > selection > >>process" > > > >Kenneth Waller > > I think you're reading it the same way I am, Ken: "We're overloaded by > the popularity of the Gallery and need help narrowing the field before > our judges make the final decisions" > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 7/11/07, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm certainly not qualified to judge other's photographs. I don't want > my photos shot down by some other equally unqualified user who's allowed > to rate a photo simply because he lucked out and shot something decent > once. What makes you think the Pentax galleries judges are any more qualified than you or I? I'm not qualified to judge other peoples photos, but I gave it a go anyway. :-) Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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It was news to me. I haven't submitted anything or checked on the site in a couple of months. I just voted on a few, and guess what I came across, a shot taken from the car park at GFM. I wonder who's shot it was? Cheers, Dave On 7/11/07, AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just logged on to see how the last batch of upload had fared, and was > met with the below text. > > Anyone picked up news about this before? > > Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Mark Roberts wrote: > Kenneth Waller wrote: > > >>> So the Pentax Photo Gallery will become a self selecting clique, >>> >> Not my take on what was presented. >> >> >>> "Our goal is to receive fair and unbiased input to help in the >>> > selection > >>> process" >>> >> Kenneth Waller >> > > I think you're reading it the same way I am, Ken: "We're overloaded by > the popularity of the Gallery and need help narrowing the field before > our judges make the final decisions" > > > > Unless I'm missing something obvious, other than a brand name there is nothing to separate the critiquing abilities of Pentax users vs. those people in the "deleteme" flickr group. With their new peer review system the judges might not even see an HCB photo because it's too blurry, or miss out on a wonderful photograph because a few site users don't appreciate its content. I'm certainly not qualified to judge other's photographs. I don't want my photos shot down by some other equally unqualified user who's allowed to rate a photo simply because he lucked out and shot something decent once. It's easy enough for me to not pass judgement on another's photograph. Avoiding the other half of my gripe is just as easy - I'll take my ball and go play somewhere else. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Kenneth Waller wrote: >> So the Pentax Photo Gallery will become a self selecting clique, > >Not my take on what was presented. > >>"Our goal is to receive fair and unbiased input to help in the selection >>process" > >Kenneth Waller I think you're reading it the same way I am, Ken: "We're overloaded by the popularity of the Gallery and need help narrowing the field before our judges make the final decisions" -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Paul Stenquist wrote: >Yes, enough is enough. And if the photo.net model of peer evaluation >is any indication of how well this might work. Well, it won't. Not a >good idea in my estimation. >From the way I read it, they seem to be asking for input from gallery contributors, but not choosing photos by that means exclusively. In other words, their judges will still have some (I'd guess, final) say. No telling for certain but if this is the case but I'd say it's a good idea: Get gallery members to separate the wheat from the chaff and then have the official judges make the final cut. They certainly need to do *something* to reduce their turnaround time. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:23:43 -0700, Bruce Dayton wrote: >Yes, I found the same thing. I went ahead and voted on all the photos >that were presented to me. So did I, quite a bunch ... >It was a bit odd because once I got to the last one, the first ones >were shown again allowing me to vote on them. Doesn't seem like the >system is foolproof yet. Hmm, I got them in groups of five, the first one always the same one :-) Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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It was late when I logged on, so I might have missed some details. However, the site requires consent to your taking part in this project, by ticking a box. I was pretty tired last night, so I couldn't figure out what the consequences would be of not accepting the deal. Besides, I was curious enough to want to see what it was. :-) You can skip the evaluation page and go to your own pics, your profile, etc. anytime you like. One curious thing I noticed was that navigating away from the evaluation page and back again would bring up a different set of pictures. Seems like the set you're presented with is selected by random. I think the jury's still out on the convenience of this function, but IMHO it's not a mark of good design when people feel obliged to wade through 50-60 images like Jack did. Jostein 2007/7/11, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I voted on what was probably 50 or 60 images when the screen came up > with a page announcing that the Pentax site was extremely busy and > would have to end current contact. Was glad it had ended for the > moment. > > Jack > --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes, I found the same thing. I went ahead and voted on all the > > photos > > that were presented to me. > > > > It was a bit odd because once I got to the last one, the first ones > > were shown again allowing me to vote on them. Doesn't seem like the > > system is foolproof yet. > > > > -- > > Bruce > > > > > > Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 2:41:52 PM, you wrote: > > > > A> Just logged on to see how the last batch of upload had fared, and > > was > > A> met with the below text. > > > > A> Anyone picked up news about this before? > > > > A> Jostein > > > > A> === Quote start = > > A> As an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery you have the > > ability > > A> to help in the image selection process. Only approved artists can > > A> participate in the voting process. > > > > A> Our goal is to receive fair and unbiased input to help in the > > A> selection process. To this end, Photo Gallery participants cannot > > vote > > A> on their own photos. The photographer of each image available for > > A> voting will remain anonymous during this process. To further > > protect > > A> the process, your vote, either positive or negative, cannot be > > viewed > > A> by the photographer. > > > > A> PENTAX retains the rights to the final selection process; however, > > A> your vote helps narrow the field to the best images. PENTAX > > reserves > > A> the right to decline an image for any reason even if the image has > > A> received positive votes. This can be due to various reasons > > including, > > A> but not limited to, subject matter, incompatible aspect ratios, > > the > > A> inclusion of watermarks or copyrights, resolution, or the quality > > of > > A> the image. > > > > A> Please vote based on the technical and artistic merits of each > > image. > > A> When reviewing images please consider composition, exposure, > > subject > > A> matter, lighting, focus and other image aspects. > > > > A> === Quote end = > > > > A> -- > > A> http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ > > A> http://alunfoto.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [...] if the photo.net model of peer evaluation is any indication > of how well this might work. Well, it won't. Not a good idea in my > estimation. The "Average Idiot" got that name for a reason. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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In a message dated 7/10/2007 6:57:30 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, enough is enough. And if the photo.net model of peer evaluation is any indication of how well this might work. Well, it won't. Not a good idea in my estimation. Paul === Ditto. Marnie - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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> So the Pentax Photo Gallery will become a self selecting clique, Not my take on what was presented. >"Our goal is to receive fair and unbiased input to help in the selection >process" Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Pentax photo gallery morphing into another community site? > So the Pentax Photo Gallery will become a self selecting clique, well > none of that for me...Umm, wait a minute. forget I said that. > > AlunFoto wrote: >> Just logged on to see how the last batch of upload had fared, and was >> met with the below text. >> >> Anyone picked up news about this before? >> >> Jostein >> >> === Quote start = >> As an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery you have the ability >> to help in the image selection process. Only approved artists can >> participate in the voting process. >> >> Our goal is to receive fair and unbiased input to help in the >> selection process. To this end, Photo Gallery participants cannot vote >> on their own photos. The photographer of each image available for >> voting will remain anonymous during this process. To further protect >> the process, your vote, either positive or negative, cannot be viewed >> by the photographer. >> >> PENTAX retains the rights to the final selection process; however, >> your vote helps narrow the field to the best images. PENTAX reserves >> the right to decline an image for any reason even if the image has >> received positive votes. This can be due to various reasons including, >> but not limited to, subject matter, incompatible aspect ratios, the >> inclusion of watermarks or copyrights, resolution, or the quality of >> the image. >> >> Please vote based on the technical and artistic merits of each image. >> When reviewing images please consider composition, exposure, subject >> matter, lighting, focus and other image aspects. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Agreed. I just deleted my photo from pentaxphotogallery.com. There is no option to delete an account, so I clicked the contact link and asked them, politely, to do so for me. Probably a bit drastic, but I don't really like that sort of thing and don't want to be a part of it - reviewer or reviewed. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/ Paul Stenquist wrote: > Yes, enough is enough. And if the photo.net model of peer evaluation > is any indication of how well this might work. Well, it won't. Not a > good idea in my estimation. > Paul > On Jul 10, 2007, at 6:20 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > >> AlunFoto wrote: >> >> >>> Just logged on to see how the last batch of upload had fared, and was >>> met with the below text. >>> >>> Anyone picked up news about this before? >>> >> Very interesting. >> >> But I'm more concerned with when the damn page is ever going to gt out >> of beta and go official. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Yes, enough is enough. And if the photo.net model of peer evaluation is any indication of how well this might work. Well, it won't. Not a good idea in my estimation. Paul On Jul 10, 2007, at 6:20 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > AlunFoto wrote: > >> Just logged on to see how the last batch of upload had fared, and was >> met with the below text. >> >> Anyone picked up news about this before? > > Very interesting. > > But I'm more concerned with when the damn page is ever going to gt out > of beta and go official. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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You overloaded it Jack. :-) Tom C. >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: Pentax photo gallery morphing into another community site? >Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:37:17 -0700 (PDT) > >I voted on what was probably 50 or 60 images when the screen came up >with a page announcing that the Pentax site was extremely busy and >would have to end current contact. Was glad it had ended for the >moment. > >Jack >--- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes, I found the same thing. I went ahead and voted on all the > > photos > > that were presented to me. > > > > It was a bit odd because once I got to the last one, the first ones > > were shown again allowing me to vote on them. Doesn't seem like the > > system is foolproof yet. > > > > -- > > Bruce > > > > > > Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 2:41:52 PM, you wrote: > > > > A> Just logged on to see how the last batch of upload had fared, and > > was > > A> met with the below text. > > > > A> Anyone picked up news about this before? > > > > A> Jostein > > > > A> === Quote start = > > A> As an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery you have the > > ability > > A> to help in the image selection process. Only approved artists can > > A> participate in the voting process. > > > > A> Our goal is to receive fair and unbiased input to help in the > > A> selection process. To this end, Photo Gallery participants cannot > > vote > > A> on their own photos. The photographer of each image available for > > A> voting will remain anonymous during this process. To further > > protect > > A> the process, your vote, either positive or negative, cannot be > > viewed > > A> by the photographer. > > > > A> PENTAX retains the rights to the final selection process; however, > > A> your vote helps narrow the field to the best images. PENTAX > > reserves > > A> the right to decline an image for any reason even if the image has > > A> received positive votes. This can be due to various reasons > > including, > > A> but not limited to, subject matter, incompatible aspect ratios, > > the > > A> inclusion of watermarks or copyrights, resolution, or the quality > > of > > A> the image. > > > > A> Please vote based on the technical and artistic merits of each > > image. > > A> When reviewing images please consider composition, exposure, > > subject > > A> matter, lighting, focus and other image aspects. > > > > A> === Quote end = > > > > A> -- > > A> http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ > > A> http://alunfoto.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > >Luggage? GPS? Comic books? >Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search >http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Okay, now I understand why it takes so long to review the photos...that was hard work! Bong On 7/11/07, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I voted on what was probably 50 or 60 images when the screen came up > with a page announcing that the Pentax site was extremely busy and > would have to end current contact. Was glad it had ended for the > moment. > > Jack > --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes, I found the same thing. I went ahead and voted on all the > > photos > > that were presented to me. > > > > It was a bit odd because once I got to the last one, the first ones > > were shown again allowing me to vote on them. Doesn't seem like the > > system is foolproof yet. > > > > -- > > Bruce > > > > > > Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 2:41:52 PM, you wrote: > > > > A> Just logged on to see how the last batch of upload had fared, and > > was > > A> met with the below text. > > > > A> Anyone picked up news about this before? > > > > A> Jostein > > > > A> === Quote start = > > A> As an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery you have the > > ability > > A> to help in the image selection process. Only approved artists can > > A> participate in the voting process. > > > > A> Our goal is to receive fair and unbiased input to help in the > > A> selection process. To this end, Photo Gallery participants cannot > > vote > > A> on their own photos. The photographer of each image available for > > A> voting will remain anonymous during this process. To further > > protect > > A> the process, your vote, either positive or negative, cannot be > > viewed > > A> by the photographer. > > > > A> PENTAX retains the rights to the final selection process; however, > > A> your vote helps narrow the field to the best images. PENTAX > > reserves > > A> the right to decline an image for any reason even if the image has > > A> received positive votes. This can be due to various reasons > > including, > > A> but not limited to, subject matter, incompatible aspect ratios, > > the > > A> inclusion of watermarks or copyrights, resolution, or the quality > > of > > A> the image. > > > > A> Please vote based on the technical and artistic merits of each > > image. > > A> When reviewing images please consider composition, exposure, > > subject > > A> matter, lighting, focus and other image aspects. > > > > A> === Quote end = > > > > A> -- > > A> http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ > > A> http://alunfoto.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I voted on what was probably 50 or 60 images when the screen came up with a page announcing that the Pentax site was extremely busy and would have to end current contact. Was glad it had ended for the moment. Jack --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I found the same thing. I went ahead and voted on all the > photos > that were presented to me. > > It was a bit odd because once I got to the last one, the first ones > were shown again allowing me to vote on them. Doesn't seem like the > system is foolproof yet. > > -- > Bruce > > > Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 2:41:52 PM, you wrote: > > A> Just logged on to see how the last batch of upload had fared, and > was > A> met with the below text. > > A> Anyone picked up news about this before? > > A> Jostein > > A> === Quote start = > A> As an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery you have the > ability > A> to help in the image selection process. Only approved artists can > A> participate in the voting process. > > A> Our goal is to receive fair and unbiased input to help in the > A> selection process. To this end, Photo Gallery participants cannot > vote > A> on their own photos. The photographer of each image available for > A> voting will remain anonymous during this process. To further > protect > A> the process, your vote, either positive or negative, cannot be > viewed > A> by the photographer. > > A> PENTAX retains the rights to the final selection process; however, > A> your vote helps narrow the field to the best images. PENTAX > reserves > A> the right to decline an image for any reason even if the image has > A> received positive votes. This can be due to various reasons > including, > A> but not limited to, subject matter, incompatible aspect ratios, > the > A> inclusion of watermarks or copyrights, resolution, or the quality > of > A> the image. > > A> Please vote based on the technical and artistic merits of each > image. > A> When reviewing images please consider composition, exposure, > subject > A> matter, lighting, focus and other image aspects. > > A> === Quote end = > > A> -- > A> http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ > A> http://alunfoto.blogspot.com > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax photo gallery morphing into another community site?
Yes, I found the same thing. I went ahead and voted on all the photos that were presented to me. It was a bit odd because once I got to the last one, the first ones were shown again allowing me to vote on them. Doesn't seem like the system is foolproof yet. -- Bruce Tuesday, July 10, 2007, 2:41:52 PM, you wrote: A> Just logged on to see how the last batch of upload had fared, and was A> met with the below text. A> Anyone picked up news about this before? A> Jostein A> === Quote start = A> As an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery you have the ability A> to help in the image selection process. Only approved artists can A> participate in the voting process. A> Our goal is to receive fair and unbiased input to help in the A> selection process. To this end, Photo Gallery participants cannot vote A> on their own photos. The photographer of each image available for A> voting will remain anonymous during this process. To further protect A> the process, your vote, either positive or negative, cannot be viewed A> by the photographer. A> PENTAX retains the rights to the final selection process; however, A> your vote helps narrow the field to the best images. PENTAX reserves A> the right to decline an image for any reason even if the image has A> received positive votes. This can be due to various reasons including, A> but not limited to, subject matter, incompatible aspect ratios, the A> inclusion of watermarks or copyrights, resolution, or the quality of A> the image. A> Please vote based on the technical and artistic merits of each image. A> When reviewing images please consider composition, exposure, subject A> matter, lighting, focus and other image aspects. A> === Quote end = A> -- A> http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ A> http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax photo gallery morphing into another community site?
Yes. Early on, it was mentioned that accepted artists would possibly be invited to participate in the voting. Can't say just when that was announced. Jack --- AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just logged on to see how the last batch of upload had fared, and was > met with the below text. > > Anyone picked up news about this before? > > Jostein > > === Quote start = > As an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery you have the > ability > to help in the image selection process. Only approved artists can > participate in the voting process. > > Our goal is to receive fair and unbiased input to help in the > selection process. To this end, Photo Gallery participants cannot > vote > on their own photos. The photographer of each image available for > voting will remain anonymous during this process. To further protect > the process, your vote, either positive or negative, cannot be viewed > by the photographer. > > PENTAX retains the rights to the final selection process; however, > your vote helps narrow the field to the best images. PENTAX reserves > the right to decline an image for any reason even if the image has > received positive votes. This can be due to various reasons > including, > but not limited to, subject matter, incompatible aspect ratios, the > inclusion of watermarks or copyrights, resolution, or the quality of > the image. > > Please vote based on the technical and artistic merits of each image. > When reviewing images please consider composition, exposure, subject > matter, lighting, focus and other image aspects. > > === Quote end = > > -- > http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ > http://alunfoto.blogspot.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax photo gallery morphing into another community site?
AlunFoto wrote: >Just logged on to see how the last batch of upload had fared, and was >met with the below text. > >Anyone picked up news about this before? Very interesting. But I'm more concerned with when the damn page is ever going to gt out of beta and go official. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax photo gallery morphing into another community site?
So the Pentax Photo Gallery will become a self selecting clique, well none of that for me...Umm, wait a minute. forget I said that. AlunFoto wrote: > Just logged on to see how the last batch of upload had fared, and was > met with the below text. > > Anyone picked up news about this before? > > Jostein > > === Quote start = > As an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery you have the ability > to help in the image selection process. Only approved artists can > participate in the voting process. > > Our goal is to receive fair and unbiased input to help in the > selection process. To this end, Photo Gallery participants cannot vote > on their own photos. The photographer of each image available for > voting will remain anonymous during this process. To further protect > the process, your vote, either positive or negative, cannot be viewed > by the photographer. > > PENTAX retains the rights to the final selection process; however, > your vote helps narrow the field to the best images. PENTAX reserves > the right to decline an image for any reason even if the image has > received positive votes. This can be due to various reasons including, > but not limited to, subject matter, incompatible aspect ratios, the > inclusion of watermarks or copyrights, resolution, or the quality of > the image. > > Please vote based on the technical and artistic merits of each image. > When reviewing images please consider composition, exposure, subject > matter, lighting, focus and other image aspects. > > === Quote end = > > -- All dogs have four legs; my cat has four legs. Therefore, my cat is a dog. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Pentax photo gallery morphing into another community site?
Just logged on to see how the last batch of upload had fared, and was met with the below text. Anyone picked up news about this before? Jostein === Quote start = As an accepted artist of the PENTAX Photo Gallery you have the ability to help in the image selection process. Only approved artists can participate in the voting process. Our goal is to receive fair and unbiased input to help in the selection process. To this end, Photo Gallery participants cannot vote on their own photos. The photographer of each image available for voting will remain anonymous during this process. To further protect the process, your vote, either positive or negative, cannot be viewed by the photographer. PENTAX retains the rights to the final selection process; however, your vote helps narrow the field to the best images. PENTAX reserves the right to decline an image for any reason even if the image has received positive votes. This can be due to various reasons including, but not limited to, subject matter, incompatible aspect ratios, the inclusion of watermarks or copyrights, resolution, or the quality of the image. Please vote based on the technical and artistic merits of each image. When reviewing images please consider composition, exposure, subject matter, lighting, focus and other image aspects. === Quote end = -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
