Re: Portrait software
From: Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> William Robb wrote: >>> > Moot anyway - they don't hire photographers. > > > Photographers are too hard to train. They always think they have a > better way (which they do), and they tend to be loose cannons in the > studio. > > William Robb Speaking as veteran of the portrait mills, and a guy who used to make his living training these people, I did hire "photographers." But I prefered not to, because too many people who think of themselves as photographers are anything but, having only a pocket full of bad habits and an indifferent attitude toward learning useful techniques. It was usually too difficult and time-consuming to retrain the bad habits out of them, but sometimes it was worth it, if I could see some willingness to accept instruction. I think you're both missing a couple of key points. 1. This company essentially has a monopoly dealing with school SYSTEMS & the in-store studios. My only alternative is to set up my own studio as an independent, with all the investment involved in order to compete with an established franchise. Note, I'm talking school SYSTEMS - 156 public schools under one contract in just one county. And likely an equal number of private schools, although they're not consolidated under one contract. That's at the low dollar end, where that original "Portrait software" would let you make those annual "school photo" packages. I can also attempt to break into the market against the established high end independents, but that's a different thread - "seniors" is more akin to wedding photography; in fact, it's kind of the intro to wedding photography, because that's who they're going to think of first when it's time to start looking; whoever took their "seniors". So, anyway, there's pretty low probability I'm going to break into the annual school photo market with my two camera bodies, various equipment and $90 software package for creating various photo packages. And as to working for the franchise ... 2. There simply is no retraining involved. Period. I already understand the fundamentals; they only have to tell me once "this is how we do it", and I would do it THAT WAY - no argument. But their company policy is not to even consider me. So I'm back to square one. I did get an answer back from the six-pack photo or whoever it was ... on saving the layouts. The template basically creates an Internet Explorer web-page you can export to the printer, but after you've dropped the images into the template, you can save the finished layout as an MS Word document with embedded images. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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William Robb wrote: > Unfortunately, around where I live (Southeastern US - North > Carolina) > there's one company that already has a lock on the business; already > has > contracts with most of the school systems. > > Another good line is CHURCHES - get the pastor on the hook with a > really > LOW PRICE for a group portrait of the congregation then sell all the > > individual families portrait packages > > They also have the contract for the "Photo Studio" at most WalMart, > Target > & J.C. Penny stores. > > They don't hire photographers. > > They take kids who want to be photographers, give them a quickie > course - > Camera here, this light here, that light there, switches just so ... > this > is how the background is hung - and pay them $11.00 an hour + > "reimbursement" for expenses. > > The reimbursement = $.35 a mile for the wear & tear and fuel for > their > personal vehicle + minimal per diem. > > After a while the kids realize that when you add in all the unpaid > travel > time they're making less than they could flippin' burgers at > McDonalds, so > the company has to hire another batch of new kids. > > Still, I'd take $11.00 an hour if they'd hire me for one of the > nearby > J.C. Penny or Target studios, but I ain't going out on the road for > that. > > Moot anyway - they don't hire photographers. Photographers are too hard to train. They always think they have a better way (which they do), and they tend to be loose cannons in the studio. William Robb Speaking as veteran of the portrait mills, and a guy who used to make his living training these people, I did hire "photographers." But I prefered not to, because too many people who think of themselves as photographers are anything but, having only a pocket full of bad habits and an indifferent attitude toward learning useful techniques. It was usually too difficult and time-consuming to retrain the bad habits out of them, but sometimes it was worth it, if I could see some willingness to accept instruction. It's not just the volume people who have this attitude; I applied at a couple independent studios back in the day, and was given the same line, that they only hired people who knew nothing about photography so they wouldn't have to deal with all the retraining. I know it's very fashionable to mock the volume photo people, and like any other industry it has its faults, but it's also a great way to get a solid grounding in the basics of studio photography, not to mention having access to piles of equipment that you don't have to go out and purchase yourself, and if you are motivated enough to grasp the fundamentals and apply them, you can create some truly exceptional work. But only if you have the balls to stand up to a parade of toddlers and their mothers/grandmothers. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: "Jens" Subject: Re: Re: Portrait software Hello William Over here, it's about the same. A few companies are dominating the business. Still I think it's a free market. I can try to get a piece of the cake, if I want. I am current trying too start/run a business doing photography for planning purposes - www.planfoto.dk. I know thee'll be times with very few or no orders, so I'm looking for supplementary sources of income. Portraits could be one of them. School portraits doesn't hjave to make you rich, but if you have enough orders, the salery is quite good. One school class = 1-2 weeks salery. It's like photographing in an assembly line. A frind of mine once said: You can make a living from just about anything, if you organize it well. I guess this goes for school photography too. I actually know a photographer, who became quite whealty this way. It certainly can be done. The important thing is consistency. Set our lights up one way and don't EVER adjust their position. It's different for grad photos, which I actually like doing. You have a little more leeway, but still, keep your ratios reasonable. Yousuf Karsch doesn't sell to grandmothers. >> PS: Many photographing companies offer such packages for schools >> etc. >> The price is often apr. 50 USD for on package wieh a number of >> portraits and one group portrait. >> >> If marketed right this can be a brilliant source of income. If I >> could fill my order book, I could make one months wages in just >> one >> week. One school class is enough for one week salery. >> >> This is worth taking into consideration, if you wnat to make a >> living >> from photography...:-) > > Unfortunately, around where I live (Southeastern US - North > Carolina) > there's one company that already has a lock on the business; already > has > contracts with most of the school systems. > > Another good line is CHURCHES - get the pastor on the hook with a > really > LOW PRICE for a group portrait of the congregation then sell all the > > individual families portrait packages > > They also have the contract for the "Photo Studio" at most WalMart, > Target > & J.C. Penny stores. > > They don't hire photographers. > > They take kids who want to be photographers, give them a quickie > course - > Camera here, this light here, that light there, switches just so ... > this > is how the background is hung - and pay them $11.00 an hour + > "reimbursement" for expenses. > > The reimbursement = $.35 a mile for the wear & tear and fuel for > their > personal vehicle + minimal per diem. > > After a while the kids realize that when you add in all the unpaid > travel > time they're making less than they could flippin' burgers at > McDonalds, so > the company has to hire another batch of new kids. > > Still, I'd take $11.00 an hour if they'd hire me for one of the > nearby > J.C. Penny or Target studios, but I ain't going out on the road for > that. > > Moot anyway - they don't hire photographers. Photographers are too hard to train. They always think they have a better way (which they do), and they tend to be loose cannons in the studio. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: Portrait software
Hello William Over here, it's about the same. A few companies are dominating the business. Still I think it's a free market. I can try to get a piece of the cake, if I want. I am current trying too start/run a business doing photography for planning purposes - www.planfoto.dk. I know thee'll be times with very few or no orders, so I'm looking for supplementary sources of income. Portraits could be one of them. School portraits doesn't hjave to make you rich, but if you have enough orders, the salery is quite good. One school class = 1-2 weeks salery. It's like photographing in an assembly line. A frind of mine once said: You can make a living from just about anything, if you organize it well. I guess this goes for school photography too. I actually know a photographer, who became quite whealty this way. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 2, 2008 17:34 "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "John Sessoms" > Subject: RE: Portrait software > > > > From: "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> PS: Many photographing companies offer such packages for schools > >> etc. > >> The price is often apr. 50 USD for on package wieh a number of > >> portraits and one group portrait. > >> > >> If marketed right this can be a brilliant source of income. If I > >> could fill my order book, I could make one months wages in just > >> one > >> week. One school class is enough for one week salery. > >> > >> This is worth taking into consideration, if you wnat to make a > >> living > >> from photography...:-) > > > > Unfortunately, around where I live (Southeastern US - North > > Carolina) > > there's one company that already has a lock on the business; already > > has > > contracts with most of the school systems. > > > > Another good line is CHURCHES - get the pastor on the hook with a > > really > > LOW PRICE for a group portrait of the congregation then sell all the > > > > individual families portrait packages > > > > They also have the contract for the "Photo Studio" at most WalMart, > > Target > > & J.C. Penny stores. > > > > They don't hire photographers. > > > > They take kids who want to be photographers, give them a quickie > > course - > > Camera here, this light here, that light there, switches just so ... > > this > > is how the background is hung - and pay them $11.00 an hour + > > "reimbursement" for expenses. > > > > The reimbursement = $.35 a mile for the wear & tear and fuel for > > their > > personal vehicle + minimal per diem. > > > > After a while the kids realize that when you add in all the unpaid > > travel > > time they're making less than they could flippin' burgers at > > McDonalds, so > > the company has to hire another batch of new kids. > > > > Still, I'd take $11.00 an hour if they'd hire me for one of the > > nearby > > J.C. Penny or Target studios, but I ain't going out on the road for > > that. > > > > Moot anyway - they don't hire photographers. > > Tell them you use Pentax. They'll hire you then. > Seriously, these places aren't in the business of churning out high > art, > they really are there for the people who are in the market for what > they are > selling. > In order for them to be able to do what they do, every studio needs to > be as > close to the same as possible with regards to lighing intensity and > ratio. > This is the photographic equivalent of flipping burgers at McDonald's, > and > the reasons for them doing what they do are exactly the same as the > reasons > for why McD does it the way they do. > It's all about consistency of product. > > William Robb > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portrait software
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" Subject: RE: Portrait software > From: "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> PS: Many photographing companies offer such packages for schools etc. >> The price is often apr. 50 USD for on package wieh a number of >> portraits and one group portrait. >> >> If marketed right this can be a brilliant source of income. If I >> could fill my order book, I could make one months wages in just one >> week. One school class is enough for one week salery. > > Unfortunately, around where I live (Southeastern US - North Carolina) > there's one company that already has a lock on the business; already has > contracts with most of the school systems. > > They don't hire photographers. > > Still, I'd take $11.00 an hour if they'd hire me for one of the nearby > J.C. Penny or Target studios, but I ain't going out on the road for that. > > Moot anyway - they don't hire photographers. Tell them you use Pentax. They'll hire you then. Seriously, these places aren't in the business of churning out high art, they really are there for the people who are in the market for what they are selling. In order for them to be able to do what they do, every studio needs to be as close to the same as possible with regards to lighing intensity and ratio. This is the photographic equivalent of flipping burgers at McDonald's, and the reasons for them doing what they do are exactly the same as the reasons for why McD does it the way they do. It's all about consistency of product. William Robb I understand their business model, and with my experience, there's no problem doing it their way ... there's no need for them to explain it, just tell me how far you want the light & what power setting you want me to use. It's not rocket surgery - put this light over here 10' away at full power using this soft box, that light at 12' 2/3 power, put the stool 8 feet in front of the backdrop, use this camera, that f/stop, at whatever shutter speed. Boom, boom, boom ... all done; "How about some additional 5x7 prints? They'd make a lovely gift for the grandparents." Upselling. I understand it. I can follow the script. BTDT - GTTS. They provide the equipment; they only have to tell me once how they want me to shoot it. I understand what they want me to do, and I can do it faster and churn out higher production than that untrained kid. No problem. And, I'm willing to work for what they claim to be paying (at least in the portrait studio). And, I'm more likely to show up for work every day. BUT ... they *DO NOT* hire photographers. Experience is a disqualification. Don't know why, but that's how it is. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portrait software
Contact sheet II in CS2. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Portrait software On 1/11/08, Jens, discombobulated, unleashed: I really would like to have software, that can outomatically create a sheet /an enlargement showing the chosen portrait in different sizes. Just like the one you get from school photograohers. Does anyone know if such software available somewhere, please? If you use Photoshop there is a built in but that does this. -- Cheers, Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portrait software
- Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" Subject: RE: Portrait software From: "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PS: Many photographing companies offer such packages for schools etc. The price is often apr. 50 USD for on package wieh a number of portraits and one group portrait. If marketed right this can be a brilliant source of income. If I could fill my order book, I could make one months wages in just one week. One school class is enough for one week salery. This is worth taking into consideration, if you wnat to make a living from photography...:-) Unfortunately, around where I live (Southeastern US - North Carolina) there's one company that already has a lock on the business; already has contracts with most of the school systems. Another good line is CHURCHES - get the pastor on the hook with a really LOW PRICE for a group portrait of the congregation then sell all the individual families portrait packages They also have the contract for the "Photo Studio" at most WalMart, Target & J.C. Penny stores. They don't hire photographers. They take kids who want to be photographers, give them a quickie course - Camera here, this light here, that light there, switches just so ... this is how the background is hung - and pay them $11.00 an hour + "reimbursement" for expenses. The reimbursement = $.35 a mile for the wear & tear and fuel for their personal vehicle + minimal per diem. After a while the kids realize that when you add in all the unpaid travel time they're making less than they could flippin' burgers at McDonalds, so the company has to hire another batch of new kids. Still, I'd take $11.00 an hour if they'd hire me for one of the nearby J.C. Penny or Target studios, but I ain't going out on the road for that. Moot anyway - they don't hire photographers. Tell them you use Pentax. They'll hire you then. Seriously, these places aren't in the business of churning out high art, they really are there for the people who are in the market for what they are selling. In order for them to be able to do what they do, every studio needs to be as close to the same as possible with regards to lighing intensity and ratio. This is the photographic equivalent of flipping burgers at McDonald's, and the reasons for them doing what they do are exactly the same as the reasons for why McD does it the way they do. It's all about consistency of product. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Portrait software
From: "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PS: Many photographing companies offer such packages for schools etc. The price is often apr. 50 USD for on package wieh a number of portraits and one group portrait. If marketed right this can be a brilliant source of income. If I could fill my order book, I could make one months wages in just one week. One school class is enough for one week salery. This is worth taking into consideration, if you wnat to make a living from photography...:-) Unfortunately, around where I live (Southeastern US - North Carolina) there's one company that already has a lock on the business; already has contracts with most of the school systems. Another good line is CHURCHES - get the pastor on the hook with a really LOW PRICE for a group portrait of the congregation then sell all the individual families portrait packages They also have the contract for the "Photo Studio" at most WalMart, Target & J.C. Penny stores. They don't hire photographers. They take kids who want to be photographers, give them a quickie course - Camera here, this light here, that light there, switches just so ... this is how the background is hung - and pay them $11.00 an hour + "reimbursement" for expenses. The reimbursement = $.35 a mile for the wear & tear and fuel for their personal vehicle + minimal per diem. After a while the kids realize that when you add in all the unpaid travel time they're making less than they could flippin' burgers at McDonalds, so the company has to hire another batch of new kids. Still, I'd take $11.00 an hour if they'd hire me for one of the nearby J.C. Penny or Target studios, but I ain't going out on the road for that. Moot anyway - they don't hire photographers. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello again I should also mention, that I found software, that can make templates for printing and publishing images in a package. It's called PrintSix. It's not very expensive (60-160 USD) and comes in different versions. http://www.sixdigitalphotos.com/templates.htm Unfortunately I don't think this software can save your work as one JPG or TIF file for later use. I don't know about saving the template as a single image, but it will only work with jpegs. You have to dig down a bit through the site to find it, but they do have an email contact address, so you could ask them if you can save the finished layout as a new image: http://www.sixdigitalphotos.com/email.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks again, John, Cotty and others. I played around with the Pickture Package thing in Photoshop CS (7) and found out: 1. I can make a Picture Pacage from all images in an image folder automatically. 2. I can change/customize the layout I wnat to use (combination of image sizes in each package). This is actually what I want. And I think it works great. My only concern is, that the final package sizes seem to be unchangeable (?). That's a pity, since I want to use the very same paper sizes, that my photo dealer offers. I'll get my new EPSON printer next week (just a small, cheep one). Perhaps I can find the rigt sizes for this. The Photoshop tutorial that led me to Picture Packages was on how to create additional custom packages if the default ones wouldn't fit what you needed. The package layouts are stored in text files. It explained the notation Photoshop uses to guide a layout and where to save the ones you write. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Nov 2, 2008, at 2:41 AM, Bob W wrote: Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. you want me to dress up as Olive Oyl, chain others to a rock, flog them with wet spinach then coat their bits with wildflower honey and Greek yoghourt? Are you sure? "What have you done with Bob W?" or "Hmm, have I got a nightclub for you ... " ]'-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Portrait software
- Original Message - From: "Jens" Subject: RE: Portrait software PS: Many photographing companies offer such packages for schools etc. The price is often apr. 50 USD for on package wieh a number of portraits and one group portrait. If marketed right this can be a brilliant source of income. If I could fill my order book, I could make one months wages in just one week. One school class is enough for one week salery. This is worth taking into consideration, if you wnat to make a living from photography...:-) It's part of what I do to make a living at photography. We did 8 schools this year, and by the time it's all over and the smoke has cleared, we may clear 2K for our efforts. I'm of the opinion that we could have made more than 2K had we applied our efforts to other ventures. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 7:53 PM, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The File>Automate>Picture Package is also vary elastic, and can be told to > do many wonderful things, including partake in actions. I still seem to have problems with the picture package software, espesially the two 5x7 one. I have to fiddle with original sizes to get it to do 5x7. It wants to do 5x6.2 most times. Now i just make a new canvas in the same dpi as the photo and do it manually.:-) Dave > > William Robb > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2/11/08, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: >Hmm, that sounds odd. Once you've finished you picture package, why not >just resize it to fit the paper size using Image Size? or even better, adjust sizes right on the picture package window, as you (and I) have just discovered ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2/11/08, Jens, discombobulated, unleashed: >My only concern is, that the final package sizes seem to be unchangeable (?). >That's a pity, since I want to use the very same paper sizes, that my >photo dealer offers. I'll get my new EPSON printer next week (just a >small, cheep one). Perhaps I can find the rigt sizes for this. Hmm, that sounds odd. Once you've finished you picture package, why not just resize it to fit the paper size using Image Size? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> -- > Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. > you want me to dress up as Olive Oyl, chain others to a rock, flog them with wet spinach then coat their bits with wildflower honey and Greek yoghourt? Are you sure? Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Jens > Sent: 02 November 2008 10:12 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: RE: Portrait software > > PS: > Many photographing companies offer such packages for schools etc. > The price is often apr. 50 USD for on package wieh a number > of portraits and one group portrait. > > If marketed right this can be a brilliant source of income. > If I could fill my order book, I could make one months wages > in just one week. > One school class is enough for one week salery. > > This is worth taking into consideration, if you wnat to make > a living from photography...:-) > > > -- > Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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PS: Many photographing companies offer such packages for schools etc. The price is often apr. 50 USD for on package wieh a number of portraits and one group portrait. If marketed right this can be a brilliant source of income. If I could fill my order book, I could make one months wages in just one week. One school class is enough for one week salery. This is worth taking into consideration, if you wnat to make a living from photography...:-) -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 2, 2008 08:28 "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually that's not true. > You can change the paper size as well as the sizes, position etc of > each simgle image in the package. You can even add text, copyright > information etc. > I't sreally a very versatile tool. > > Regards > > Jens > > > Thanks again, John, Cotty and others. > I played around with the Pickture Package thing in Photoshop CS (7) > and found out: > 1. I can make a Picture Pacage from all images in an image folder > automatically. > 2. I can change/customize the layout I wnat to use (combination of > image sizes in each package). > This is actually what I want. And I think it works great. > My only concern is, that the final package sizes seem to be > unchangeable (?). > That's a pity, since I want to use the very same paper sizes, that my > photo dealer offers. I'll get my new EPSON printer next week (just a > small, cheep one). Perhaps I can find the rigt sizes for this. > > Regards > Jens > > > Thanks John, Great tip. > I used your search and found this: > http://www.pixalo.com/articles/Using-automated-picture-package-in-Phot > oshop.php > I'm sure there's a lot more somewhere. > :-) > Regards > Jens > > -- > Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. > > On Nov 1, 2008 23:18 "John Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Hello List I sometimes do portraits of children. I really would > > > like > > > to have software, that can outomatically create a sheet /an > > > enlargement showing the chosen portrait in different sizes. Just > > > like > > > the one you get from school photograohers. Does anyone know if > > > such > > > software available somewhere, please? > > > > I'm pretty sure you can set up an action in PhotoShop that will do > > that; > > replicate the photo several times on a single sheet. I had a class > > on > > how to do it once, but I've forgotten how since I haven't used it. > > > > In fact, I did a quick web search and found a tutorial that pointed > > me > > toward Photoshop>File>Automate>Picture Package and there's > > pre-defined > > packages in there. > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > > and > > follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Actually that's not true. You can change the paper size as well as the sizes, position etc of each simgle image in the package. You can even add text, copyright information etc. I't sreally a very versatile tool. Regards Jens Thanks again, John, Cotty and others. I played around with the Pickture Package thing in Photoshop CS (7) and found out: 1. I can make a Picture Pacage from all images in an image folder automatically. 2. I can change/customize the layout I wnat to use (combination of image sizes in each package). This is actually what I want. And I think it works great. My only concern is, that the final package sizes seem to be unchangeable (?). That's a pity, since I want to use the very same paper sizes, that my photo dealer offers. I'll get my new EPSON printer next week (just a small, cheep one). Perhaps I can find the rigt sizes for this. Regards Jens Thanks John, Great tip. I used your search and found this: http://www.pixalo.com/articles/Using-automated-picture-package-in-Photoshop.php I'm sure there's a lot more somewhere. :-) Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 1, 2008 23:18 "John Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello List I sometimes do portraits of children. I really would like > > to have software, that can outomatically create a sheet /an > > enlargement showing the chosen portrait in different sizes. Just > > like > > the one you get from school photograohers. Does anyone know if such > > software available somewhere, please? > > I'm pretty sure you can set up an action in PhotoShop that will do > that; > replicate the photo several times on a single sheet. I had a class on > how to do it once, but I've forgotten how since I haven't used it. > > In fact, I did a quick web search and found a tutorial that pointed me > toward Photoshop>File>Automate>Picture Package and there's pre-defined > packages in there. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hello again I should also mention, that I found software, that can make templates for printing and publishing images in a package. It's called PrintSix. It's not very expensive (60-160 USD) and comes in different versions. http://www.sixdigitalphotos.com/templates.htm Unfortunately I don't think this software can save your work as one JPG or TIF file for later use. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 2, 2008 07:23 "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks again, John, Cotty and others. > I played around with the Pickture Package thing in Photoshop CS (7) > and found out: > 1. I can make a Picture Pacage from all images in an image folder > automatically. > 2. I can change/customize the layout I wnat to use (combination of > image sizes in each package). > This is actually what I want. And I think it works great. > My only concern is, that the final package sizes seem to be > unchangeable (?). > That's a pity, since I want to use the very same paper sizes, that my > photo dealer offers. I'll get my new EPSON printer next week (just a > small, cheep one). Perhaps I can find the rigt sizes for this. > > Regards > Jens > > > Thanks John, Great tip. > I used your search and found this: > http://www.pixalo.com/articles/Using-automated-picture-package-in-Phot > oshop.php > I'm sure there's a lot more somewhere. > :-) > Regards > Jens > > -- > Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. > > On Nov 1, 2008 23:18 "John Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Hello List I sometimes do portraits of children. I really would > > > like > > > to have software, that can outomatically create a sheet /an > > > enlargement showing the chosen portrait in different sizes. Just > > > like > > > the one you get from school photograohers. Does anyone know if > > > such > > > software available somewhere, please? > > > > I'm pretty sure you can set up an action in PhotoShop that will do > > that; > > replicate the photo several times on a single sheet. I had a class > > on > > how to do it once, but I've forgotten how since I haven't used it. > > > > In fact, I did a quick web search and found a tutorial that pointed > > me > > toward Photoshop>File>Automate>Picture Package and there's > > pre-defined > > packages in there. > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > > and > > follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks again, John, Cotty and others. I played around with the Pickture Package thing in Photoshop CS (7) and found out: 1. I can make a Picture Pacage from all images in an image folder automatically. 2. I can change/customize the layout I wnat to use (combination of image sizes in each package). This is actually what I want. And I think it works great. My only concern is, that the final package sizes seem to be unchangeable (?). That's a pity, since I want to use the very same paper sizes, that my photo dealer offers. I'll get my new EPSON printer next week (just a small, cheep one). Perhaps I can find the rigt sizes for this. Regards Jens Thanks John, Great tip. I used your search and found this: http://www.pixalo.com/articles/Using-automated-picture-package-in-Photoshop.php I'm sure there's a lot more somewhere. :-) Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 1, 2008 23:18 "John Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello List I sometimes do portraits of children. I really would like > > to have software, that can outomatically create a sheet /an > > enlargement showing the chosen portrait in different sizes. Just > > like > > the one you get from school photograohers. Does anyone know if such > > software available somewhere, please? > > I'm pretty sure you can set up an action in PhotoShop that will do > that; > replicate the photo several times on a single sheet. I had a class on > how to do it once, but I've forgotten how since I haven't used it. > > In fact, I did a quick web search and found a tutorial that pointed me > toward Photoshop>File>Automate>Picture Package and there's pre-defined > packages in there. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks John, Great tip. I used your search and found this: http://www.pixalo.com/articles/Using-automated-picture-package-in-Photoshop.php I'm sure there's a lot more somewhere. :-) Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 1, 2008 23:18 "John Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello List I sometimes do portraits of children. I really would like > > to have software, that can outomatically create a sheet /an > > enlargement showing the chosen portrait in different sizes. Just > > like > > the one you get from school photograohers. Does anyone know if such > > software available somewhere, please? > > I'm pretty sure you can set up an action in PhotoShop that will do > that; > replicate the photo several times on a single sheet. I had a class on > how to do it once, but I've forgotten how since I haven't used it. > > In fact, I did a quick web search and found a tutorial that pointed me > toward Photoshop>File>Automate>Picture Package and there's pre-defined > packages in there. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: "John Sessoms" Subject: RE: Portrait software I'm pretty sure you can set up an action in PhotoShop that will do that; replicate the photo several times on a single sheet. I had a class on how to do it once, but I've forgotten how since I haven't used it. In fact, I did a quick web search and found a tutorial that pointed me toward Photoshop>File>Automate>Picture Package and there's pre-defined packages in there. Someplace around here I have the Photoshop actions that I wrote for our school photography for last year. Everything from one 8x10 to 16 subwallets on an 8x10 sheet. You just put the files you want actioed into a directory, tell it to run that directory and walk away. The computer sits there quietly making packages. The File>Automate>Picture Package is also vary elastic, and can be told to do many wonderful things, including partake in actions. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I can not get PS 5x7 package to work for me. Always came upshort Dave On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 6:18 PM, John Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Hello List I sometimes do portraits of children. I really would like >> to have software, that can outomatically create a sheet /an >> enlargement showing the chosen portrait in different sizes. Just like >> the one you get from school photograohers. Does anyone know if such >> software available somewhere, please? > > I'm pretty sure you can set up an action in PhotoShop that will do that; > replicate the photo several times on a single sheet. I had a class on how to > do it once, but I've forgotten how since I haven't used it. > > In fact, I did a quick web search and found a tutorial that pointed me > toward Photoshop>File>Automate>Picture Package and there's pre-defined > packages in there. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello List I sometimes do portraits of children. I really would like to have software, that can outomatically create a sheet /an enlargement showing the chosen portrait in different sizes. Just like the one you get from school photograohers. Does anyone know if such software available somewhere, please? I'm pretty sure you can set up an action in PhotoShop that will do that; replicate the photo several times on a single sheet. I had a class on how to do it once, but I've forgotten how since I haven't used it. In fact, I did a quick web search and found a tutorial that pointed me toward Photoshop>File>Automate>Picture Package and there's pre-defined packages in there. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 1/11/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >I think CS supports the Picture Package automation, I know CS2 does >and CS3. Yessir it does. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Too bad you're on Capture 1. Lightroom does a really good job of this. Much easier to use than the Photoshop tools. I think CS supports the Picture Package automation, I know CS2 does and CS3. G On Nov 1, 2008, at 8:16 AM, Jens wrote: Thanks Cotty I do. I uses CS and CS3 (at work). Wille they do this? Reagards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 1, 2008 15:22 "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/11/08, Jens, discombobulated, unleashed: I really would like to have software, that can outomatically create a sheet /an enlargement showing the chosen portrait in different sizes. Just like the one you get from school photograohers. Does anyone know if such software available somewhere, please? If you use Photoshop there is a built in but that does this. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks Godfrey I'm afraid I use Capture One in stead of Lightroom :-( Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 1, 2008 15:14 "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lightroom 2's Print module does this well. > Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com > > On Nov 1, 2008, at 7:09 AM, Jens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello List > > I sometimes do portraits of children. > > I really would like to have software, that can outomatically create > > > > a sheet /an enlargement showing the chosen portrait in different > > sizes. Just like the one you get from school photograohers. > > Does anyone know if such software available somewhere, please? > > > > Regards > > Jens > > > > > > -- > > Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > > > > and follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks Cotty I do. I uses CS and CS3 (at work). Wille they do this? Reagards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On Nov 1, 2008 15:22 "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/11/08, Jens, discombobulated, unleashed: > >I really would like to have software, that can outomatically create > >a > >sheet /an enlargement showing the chosen portrait in different > >sizes. > >Just like the one you get from school photograohers. > >Does anyone know if such software available somewhere, please? > > If you use Photoshop there is a built in but that does this. > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com > _ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 1/11/08, Jens, discombobulated, unleashed: >I really would like to have software, that can outomatically create a >sheet /an enlargement showing the chosen portrait in different sizes. >Just like the one you get from school photograohers. >Does anyone know if such software available somewhere, please? If you use Photoshop there is a built in but that does this. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Lightroom 2's Print module does this well. Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com On Nov 1, 2008, at 7:09 AM, Jens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello List I sometimes do portraits of children. I really would like to have software, that can outomatically create a sheet /an enlargement showing the chosen portrait in different sizes. Just like the one you get from school photograohers. Does anyone know if such software available somewhere, please? Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
