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-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It all started with the Great Vowel Shift... -frank == Okay, I'll bite. What the heck is the Great Vowel Shift? Marnie aka who has a lot of vowels it is the name given to the changes in pronunciation of English vowels that took place from the 15th to 18th centuries. To some extent it is still taking place. It's the reason why some old poems have so-called half-rhymes (ie they don't rhyme) - they did at the time - and one of the reasons why English spelling can seem illogical. Spelling was codified at a particular time and place along the line of the GVS, and more or less accurately represents the pronunciation of the time place, but the pronunciation has since shifted. Listen to some of the recordings here: http://facweb.furman.edu/~mmenzer/gvs/what.htm There is a distinct vowel shift taking place even now in the northern cities of the USA among middle-class white people. You may have fewer vowels than you think! In English a lot of spelt vowels are just pronounced as schwa (the 2nd vowel in 'butter'), or as diphthongs (and sometimes even triphthongs) depending on the variety of English, rather than as vowels. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Oct 4, 2006, at 8:37 AM, Adam Maas wrote: In english, almost all rude slang is either scatological or sexual. Damn and its variants are the major exception. Unlike say french, where much rude slang is blasphmemous. Sacre bleu!! Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Oct 4, 2006, at 2:06 PM, John Francis wrote: Quite. I'm often amused when a TV character with a British accent (such as Spike, in Buffy the Vampire Slayer) says Bugger off, or the like - it appears to be a loophole in the great American puritanical broadcast TV vocabulary rules. Yes, because most Americans don't know the meaning, I suppose. In the recent movie Pirates of the Caribbean:Dead Man's Chest you will hear Captain Jack Sparrow use bugger frequently. It didn't even get the movie an R rating. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/05 Thu AM 10:10:31 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? On Oct 4, 2006, at 8:37 AM, Adam Maas wrote: In english, almost all rude slang is either scatological or sexual. Damn and its variants are the major exception. Unlike say french, where much rude slang is blasphmemous. Sacre bleu!! Name of an Andelusian dog! That requires satisfaction! Name your weapons! (If we're using digital, can you hang on for a minute while my batteries finish charging?) - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Oct 5, 2006, at 6:30 AM, mike wilson wrote: Name of an Andelusian dog! That requires satisfaction! Name your weapons! (If we're using digital, can you hang on for a minute while my batteries finish charging?) I choose Polish sausages at 25 paces. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, mike wilson wrote: Name of an Andelusian dog! That requires satisfaction! Name your weapons! (If we're using digital, can you hang on for a minute while my batteries finish charging?) Deus ex machina mode Here, have some AA Lithiums! /Deus ex machina mode Kostas (beat that, my silly-form-factor-recheargeable hearties!) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Ha! I'd not seen that one. Dave (Also easily ammused ;-) On 10/5/06, Mitch Conant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David: An ad campaign a few years ago for Toyota New Zealand featured it quite heavily: Now, that's funny!!! Hey I'll admit I'm not part of the PC (politically correct) crowd g. It is almost as funny as this one (I think it was Aussie): http://www.mme-ia.com/humor/video/lv03.mpg Easily entertained... Mitch -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Like I said no offence intended ;-) Dave On 10/5/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From www.onelook.com: Quick definitions (pom) noun: a disparaging term for English immigrants to Australia or New Zealand Sooo... er... Thanks, I guess... hm. Jostein :-) On 10/4/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it wasn't for the fact I know better (that, and I don't want to offend him) I would swear he was a pom from the way he writes. :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/05 Thu AM 10:44:04 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? On Oct 5, 2006, at 6:30 AM, mike wilson wrote: Name of an Andelusian dog! That requires satisfaction! Name your weapons! (If we're using digital, can you hang on for a minute while my batteries finish charging?) I choose Polish sausages at 25 paces. Damn! Only half a Wieska in the fridge. I'm just popping out to Costco for a pack of Kabanos. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 18:57:24 +1300, you wrote: On Oct 5, 2006, at 12:29 AM, David Savage wrote: It's pretty mild language here. I tend to utter it when something stuffs up. An ad campaign a few years ago for Toyota New Zealand featured it quite heavily: http://www.videofoundry.co.nz/ianman/humour/bugger.html From what I've read it received 100+ official complaints in NZ and 1 here in Oz. I guess there are more prudes in New Zealand ;-) The Broadcasting Standards Authority allowed it to air despite the mountains of complaints. I just had a look at it and it's effing brilliant! (If American television commercials were like that I'd probably consider getting a television.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 10/4/06, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another pun thread... I'm gonna gag. I've thought long and hard about it, and I don't think these are puns. -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 10/4/06, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another pun thread... I'm gonna gag. I've thought long and hard about it, and I don't think these are puns. Yup. That's the modern way. It's all going down. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 10/5/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup. That's the modern way. It's all going down. It all started with the Great Vowel Shift... -frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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In a message dated 10/5/2006 1:28:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It all started with the Great Vowel Shift... -frank == Okay, I'll bite. What the heck is the Great Vowel Shift? Marnie aka who has a lot of vowels -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Oct 6, 2006, at 2:07 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: I just had a look at it and it's effing brilliant! (If American television commercials were like that I'd probably consider getting a television.) Bear in mind that the ad in question hasn't been aired here for years. - Dave (hates annoying ads with a passion, and seems to find 90% of ads annoying, and the other 10% boring) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness. To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to be this parlance that is more British English than American English, though. To call something a nasty little bugger is often used in American English to mean something small, insect like, an annoyance, or cute little bugger is a form of curmudgeonly endearment. I was curious so I looked up the word in the OED: bugger noun 1 [with adj. ] a contemptible or pitied person, typically a man. - a person with a particular negative quality or characteristic. - used as a term of affection or respect, typically grudgingly : all right, let the little buggers come in. 2 derogatory a person who commits buggery. verb [ trans. ] penetrate the anus of (someone) during sexual intercourse; sodomize. exclamation used to express annoyance or anger. PHRASAL VERBS bugger off [usu. in imperative ] go away. ORIGIN Middle English (originally denoting a heretic, specifically an Albigensian): from Middle Dutch, from Old French bougre, originally in the sense ‘heretic,’ from medieval Latin Bulgarus ‘Bulgarian,’ particularly one belonging to the Orthodox Church and therefore regarded as a heretic by the Roman Church. The sense [sodomite] (16th cent.) arose from an association of heresy with forbidden sexual practices; its use as a general insult dates from the early 18th cent. Compare with Bulgar. --- Godfrey On Oct 4, 2006, at 11:42 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Bugger off, Frank ;-) What's wrong about that word? Why do you have so many wrong words? What's the point with a word, when it's wrong? Seriously: I may need an offline hint about this mysterious meaning of the word too. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: 3. oktober 2006 21:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? On 9/30/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Dave, That's the bugger. Bad choice of words, Jostein (recognizing, of course, that as English isn't your first language, you may not know what bugger is slang for). I should write you off list. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Bugger off, Frank ;-) What's wrong about that word? Why do you have so many wrong words? What's the point with a word, when it's wrong? Seriously: I may need an offline hint about this mysterious meaning of the word too. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: 3. oktober 2006 21:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? On 9/30/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Dave, That's the bugger. Bad choice of words, Jostein (recognizing, of course, that as English isn't your first language, you may not know what bugger is slang for). I should write you off list. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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It's pretty mild language here. I tend to utter it when something stuffs up. An ad campaign a few years ago for Toyota New Zealand featured it quite heavily: http://www.videofoundry.co.nz/ianman/humour/bugger.html From what I've read it received 100+ official complaints in NZ and 1 here in Oz. I guess there are more prudes in New Zealand ;-) Dave On 10/4/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness. To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to be this parlance that is more British English than American English, though. To call something a nasty little bugger is often used in American English to mean something small, insect like, an annoyance, or cute little bugger is a form of curmudgeonly endearment. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Thanks Godfrey. There are so many words that are not proper. Sometimes I wonder what a list of proper words would look. How many entries? 20? Hopefully a bit more, but you get my point. To bug somebody is being a nuisance. I get that. And being a nuisance is also described as being an ass. I guess thats the connection. Never the less, avoiding all bad words makes the language so limited. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: 4. oktober 2006 12:52 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness. To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to be this parlance that is more British English than American English, though. To call something a nasty little bugger is often used in American English to mean something small, insect like, an annoyance, or cute little bugger is a form of curmudgeonly endearment. I was curious so I looked up the word in the OED: bugger noun 1 [with adj. ] a contemptible or pitied person, typically a man. - a person with a particular negative quality or characteristic. - used as a term of affection or respect, typically grudgingly : all right, let the little buggers come in. 2 derogatory a person who commits buggery. verb [ trans. ] penetrate the anus of (someone) during sexual intercourse; sodomize. exclamation used to express annoyance or anger. PHRASAL VERBS bugger off [usu. in imperative ] go away. ORIGIN Middle English (originally denoting a heretic, specifically an Albigensian): from Middle Dutch, from Old French bougre, originally in the sense heretic, from medieval Latin Bulgarus Bulgarian, particularly one belonging to the Orthodox Church and therefore regarded as a heretic by the Roman Church. The sense [sodomite] (16th cent.) arose from an association of heresy with forbidden sexual practices; its use as a general insult dates from the early 18th cent. Compare with Bulgar. --- Godfrey On Oct 4, 2006, at 11:42 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Bugger off, Frank ;-) What's wrong about that word? Why do you have so many wrong words? What's the point with a word, when it's wrong? Seriously: I may need an offline hint about this mysterious meaning of the word too. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: 3. oktober 2006 21:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? On 9/30/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Dave, That's the bugger. Bad choice of words, Jostein (recognizing, of course, that as English isn't your first language, you may not know what bugger is slang for). I should write you off list. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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In english, almost all rude slang is either scatological or sexual. Damn and its variants are the major exception. Unlike say french, where much rude slang is blasphmemous. -Adam Tim Øsleby wrote: Thanks Godfrey. There are so many words that are not proper. Sometimes I wonder what a list of proper words would look. How many entries? 20? Hopefully a bit more, but you get my point. To bug somebody is being a nuisance. I get that. And being a nuisance is also described as being an ass. I guess that’s the connection. Never the less, avoiding all bad words makes the language so limited. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: 4. oktober 2006 12:52 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness. To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to be this parlance that is more British English than American English, though. To call something a nasty little bugger is often used in American English to mean something small, insect like, an annoyance, or cute little bugger is a form of curmudgeonly endearment. I was curious so I looked up the word in the OED: bugger noun 1 [with adj. ] a contemptible or pitied person, typically a man. - a person with a particular negative quality or characteristic. - used as a term of affection or respect, typically grudgingly : all right, let the little buggers come in. 2 derogatory a person who commits buggery. verb [ trans. ] penetrate the anus of (someone) during sexual intercourse; sodomize. exclamation used to express annoyance or anger. PHRASAL VERBS bugger off [usu. in imperative ] go away. ORIGIN Middle English (originally denoting a heretic, specifically an Albigensian): from Middle Dutch, from Old French bougre, originally in the sense ‘heretic,’ from medieval Latin Bulgarus ‘Bulgarian,’ particularly one belonging to the Orthodox Church and therefore regarded as a heretic by the Roman Church. The sense [sodomite] (16th cent.) arose from an association of heresy with forbidden sexual practices; its use as a general insult dates from the early 18th cent. Compare with Bulgar. --- Godfrey On Oct 4, 2006, at 11:42 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Bugger off, Frank ;-) What's wrong about that word? Why do you have so many wrong words? What's the point with a word, when it's wrong? Seriously: I may need an offline hint about this mysterious meaning of the word too. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: 3. oktober 2006 21:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? On 9/30/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Dave, That's the bugger. Bad choice of words, Jostein (recognizing, of course, that as English isn't your first language, you may not know what bugger is slang for). I should write you off list. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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The use of the word itself is not so bad. Its use in relation to molested children portraits is what may have been unintentionally offensive to some people. Dan On 10/4/06, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In english, almost all rude slang is either scatological or sexual. Damn and its variants are the major exception. Unlike say french, where much rude slang is blasphmemous. -Adam Tim Øsleby wrote: Thanks Godfrey. There are so many words that are not proper. Sometimes I wonder what a list of proper words would look. How many entries? 20? Hopefully a bit more, but you get my point. To bug somebody is being a nuisance. I get that. And being a nuisance is also described as being an ass. I guess that's the connection. Never the less, avoiding all bad words makes the language so limited. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: 4. oktober 2006 12:52 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness. To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to be this parlance that is more British English than American English, though. To call something a nasty little bugger is often used in American English to mean something small, insect like, an annoyance, or cute little bugger is a form of curmudgeonly endearment. I was curious so I looked up the word in the OED: bugger noun 1 [with adj. ] a contemptible or pitied person, typically a man. - a person with a particular negative quality or characteristic. - used as a term of affection or respect, typically grudgingly : all right, let the little buggers come in. 2 derogatory a person who commits buggery. verb [ trans. ] penetrate the anus of (someone) during sexual intercourse; sodomize. exclamation used to express annoyance or anger. PHRASAL VERBS bugger off [usu. in imperative ] go away. ORIGIN Middle English (originally denoting a heretic, specifically an Albigensian): from Middle Dutch, from Old French bougre, originally in the sense 'heretic,' from medieval Latin Bulgarus 'Bulgarian,' particularly one belonging to the Orthodox Church and therefore regarded as a heretic by the Roman Church. The sense [sodomite] (16th cent.) arose from an association of heresy with forbidden sexual practices; its use as a general insult dates from the early 18th cent. Compare with Bulgar. --- Godfrey On Oct 4, 2006, at 11:42 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Bugger off, Frank ;-) What's wrong about that word? Why do you have so many wrong words? What's the point with a word, when it's wrong? Seriously: I may need an offline hint about this mysterious meaning of the word too. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: 3. oktober 2006 21:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? On 9/30/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Dave, That's the bugger. Bad choice of words, Jostein (recognizing, of course, that as English isn't your first language, you may not know what bugger is slang for). I should write you off list. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? In english, almost all rude slang is either scatological or sexual. Damn and its variants are the major exception. Unlike say french, where much rude slang is blasphmemous. We are equal opportunity profaners. Hence the term fucking hell William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 10/4/06, Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The use of the word itself is not so bad. Its use in relation to molested children portraits is what may have been unintentionally offensive to some people. I think that summarizes my feelings exactly, Dan. BTW, I brought it up to Jostein, not because I was in any way offended, but because I figured that with English not being his first language, he might not have been aware of the connections that the context might bring up in the minds of some people. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 10/4/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? In english, almost all rude slang is either scatological or sexual. Damn and its variants are the major exception. Unlike say french, where much rude slang is blasphmemous. We are equal opportunity profaners. Hence the term fucking hell If I can't get the coffee out of my keyboard, yer buying me a new one. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 10/4/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can't get the coffee out of my keyboard, yer buying me a new one. It's a bad sign when a man can't handle his coffee. Maybe it's time to switch to booze. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 10/4/06, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can't get the coffee out of my keyboard, [Robb's] buying me a new one. Yeah. Like that'll happen... cheers, frank g -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 10/4/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/4/06, Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The use of the word itself is not so bad. Its use in relation to molested children portraits is what may have been unintentionally offensive to some people. I think that summarizes my feelings exactly, Dan. BTW, I brought it up to Jostein, not because I was in any way offended, but because I figured that with English not being his first language, he might not have been aware of the connections that the context might bring up in the minds of some people. If it wasn't for the fact I know better (that, and I don't want to offend him) I would swear he was a pom from the way he writes. :-) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Well isn't that what buggery is stuffing something up? David Savage wrote: It's pretty mild language here. I tend to utter it when something stuffs up. An ad campaign a few years ago for Toyota New Zealand featured it quite heavily: http://www.videofoundry.co.nz/ianman/humour/bugger.html From what I've read it received 100+ official complaints in NZ and 1 here in Oz. I guess there are more prudes in New Zealand ;-) Dave On 10/4/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness. To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to be this parlance that is more British English than American English, though. To call something a nasty little bugger is often used in American English to mean something small, insect like, an annoyance, or cute little bugger is a form of curmudgeonly endearment. -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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In a message dated 10/4/2006 8:50:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well isn't that what buggery is stuffing something up? == Now it's getting a bit offensive. Marnie :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Thanks Dan, When posting the original question I remembered very vividly my reaction to Becky Carter's imagery from last time around. The word molested slid very easily into my brain then. I suppose a hyphen between photoshop and the said word would have been more appropriate. My apologies if I have offended anyone, and thanks to Frank, Godfrey and you for setting me straight. You know, getting the finer points right with slang terms is the toughest challenge with English. It's even worse than seeing the logic in the pronounciation...:-) Jostein On 10/4/06, Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The use of the word itself is not so bad. Its use in relation to molested children portraits is what may have been unintentionally offensive to some people. Dan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From www.onelook.com: Quick definitions (pom) noun: a disparaging term for English immigrants to Australia or New Zealand Sooo... er... Thanks, I guess... hm. Jostein :-) On 10/4/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/4/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/4/06, Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The use of the word itself is not so bad. Its use in relation to molested children portraits is what may have been unintentionally offensive to some people. I think that summarizes my feelings exactly, Dan. BTW, I brought it up to Jostein, not because I was in any way offended, but because I figured that with English not being his first language, he might not have been aware of the connections that the context might bring up in the minds of some people. If it wasn't for the fact I know better (that, and I don't want to offend him) I would swear he was a pom from the way he writes. :-) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Only a bit? I'm not trying hard enough. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/4/2006 8:50:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well isn't that what buggery is stuffing something up? == Now it's getting a bit offensive. Marnie :-) -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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In a message dated 10/4/2006 9:51:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know, getting the finer points right with slang terms is the toughest challenge with English. It's even worse than seeing the logic in the pronounciation...:-) Jostein === That's because there isn't any. Logic, that is. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Actually there's historic logic in the pronunciation. Remember English pronunciation was being codified when the entire ruling class was clobbered by French speakers. No one much cared about the proper pronunciation of English for a couple hundred years after that, since the Court Language was French. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/4/2006 9:51:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You know, getting the finer points right with slang terms is the toughest challenge with English. It's even worse than seeing the logic in the pronounciation...:-) Jostein === That's because there isn't any. Logic, that is. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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David: An ad campaign a few years ago for Toyota New Zealand featured it quite heavily: Now, that's funny!!! Hey I'll admit I'm not part of the PC (politically correct) crowd g. It is almost as funny as this one (I think it was Aussie): http://www.mme-ia.com/humor/video/lv03.mpg Easily entertained... Mitch David Savage wrote: It's pretty mild language here. I tend to utter it when something stuffs up. An ad campaign a few years ago for Toyota New Zealand featured it quite heavily: http://www.videofoundry.co.nz/ianman/humour/bugger.html From what I've read it received 100+ official complaints in NZ and 1 here in Oz. I guess there are more prudes in New Zealand ;-) Dave On 10/4/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness. To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to be this parlance that is more British English than American English, though. To call something a nasty little bugger is often used in American English to mean something small, insect like, an annoyance, or cute little bugger is a form of curmudgeonly endearment. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.12/462 - Release Date: 10/3/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hell, the Commonwealth sshouldn't be offended either. No less a man than Winston Churchill described the Real traditions of the English Navy as rum, buggery, and the lash. Jostein Øksne wrote: Thanks Dan, When posting the original question I remembered very vividly my reaction to Becky Carter's imagery from last time around. The word molested slid very easily into my brain then. I suppose a hyphen between photoshop and the said word would have been more appropriate. My apologies if I have offended anyone, and thanks to Frank, Godfrey and you for setting me straight. You know, getting the finer points right with slang terms is the toughest challenge with English. It's even worse than seeing the logic in the pronounciation...:-) Jostein On 10/4/06, Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The use of the word itself is not so bad. Its use in relation to molested children portraits is what may have been unintentionally offensive to some people. Dan -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Well, you only offended the commonwealth, most Americans have no idea what Buggery is. Jostein Øksne wrote: Thanks Dan, When posting the original question I remembered very vividly my reaction to Becky Carter's imagery from last time around. The word molested slid very easily into my brain then. I suppose a hyphen between photoshop and the said word would have been more appropriate. My apologies if I have offended anyone, and thanks to Frank, Godfrey and you for setting me straight. You know, getting the finer points right with slang terms is the toughest challenge with English. It's even worse than seeing the logic in the pronounciation...:-) Jostein On 10/4/06, Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The use of the word itself is not so bad. Its use in relation to molested children portraits is what may have been unintentionally offensive to some people. Dan -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 11:52:20AM +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness. To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to be this parlance that is more British English than American English, Quite. I'm often amused when a TV character with a British accent (such as Spike, in Buffy the Vampire Slayer) says Bugger off, or the like - it appears to be a loophole in the great American puritanical broadcast TV vocabulary rules. . . . I was curious so I looked up the word in the OED: bugger . . . penetrate the anus of (someone) during sexual intercourse; sodomize. Note, too, the difference in meaning of sodomize. In British English sodomy is pretty much synonomous with buggery; in American usage it means just about any variation on sexual activity apart from the most rudimentary forms. Oral sex, for example, is often described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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John Francis wrote: On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 11:52:20AM +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness. To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to be this parlance that is more British English than American English, Quite. I'm often amused when a TV character with a British accent (such as Spike, in Buffy the Vampire Slayer) says Bugger off, or the like - it appears to be a loophole in the great American puritanical broadcast TV vocabulary rules. . . . I was curious so I looked up the word in the OED: bugger . . . penetrate the anus of (someone) during sexual intercourse; sodomize. Note, too, the difference in meaning of sodomize. In British English sodomy is pretty much synonomous with buggery; in American usage it means just about any variation on sexual activity apart from the most rudimentary forms. Oral sex, for example, is often described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting). Thta's peculiar to the US legal system, which defines Sodomy more broadly than the word actually covers in some jurisdictions. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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it's not a particularly rude word in English. There's even a series of books aimed at teachers called Getting the Buggers to xxx where xxx is something like 'Read' or 'Learn Maths'. The only time I can think of it being used particularly negatively is when homophobic types use it. Although, of course, anal sex is not restricted to gay people. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: 04 October 2006 11:52 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness. To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to be this parlance that is more British English than American English, though. To call something a nasty little bugger is often used in American English to mean something small, insect like, an annoyance, or cute little bugger is a form of curmudgeonly endearment. I was curious so I looked up the word in the OED: bugger noun 1 [with adj. ] a contemptible or pitied person, typically a man. - a person with a particular negative quality or characteristic. - used as a term of affection or respect, typically grudgingly : all right, let the little buggers come in. 2 derogatory a person who commits buggery. verb [ trans. ] penetrate the anus of (someone) during sexual intercourse; sodomize. exclamation used to express annoyance or anger. PHRASAL VERBS bugger off [usu. in imperative ] go away. ORIGIN Middle English (originally denoting a heretic, specifically an Albigensian): from Middle Dutch, from Old French bougre, originally in the sense heretic, from medieval Latin Bulgarus Bulgarian, particularly one belonging to the Orthodox Church and therefore regarded as a heretic by the Roman Church. The sense [sodomite] (16th cent.) arose from an association of heresy with forbidden sexual practices; its use as a general insult dates from the early 18th cent. Compare with Bulgar. --- Godfrey On Oct 4, 2006, at 11:42 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote: Bugger off, Frank ;-) What's wrong about that word? Why do you have so many wrong words? What's the point with a word, when it's wrong? Seriously: I may need an offline hint about this mysterious meaning of the word too. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of frank theriault Sent: 3. oktober 2006 21:19 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? On 9/30/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Dave, That's the bugger. Bad choice of words, Jostein (recognizing, of course, that as English isn't your first language, you may not know what bugger is slang for). I should write you off list. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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The Commonwealth is not offended. It's still compulsory in most schools. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: 04 October 2006 19:21 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? Well, you only offended the commonwealth, most Americans have no idea what Buggery is. Jostein Øksne wrote: Thanks Dan, When posting the original question I remembered very vividly my reaction to Becky Carter's imagery from last time around. The word molested slid very easily into my brain then. I suppose a hyphen between photoshop and the said word would have been more appropriate. My apologies if I have offended anyone, and thanks to Frank, Godfrey and you for setting me straight. You know, getting the finer points right with slang terms is the toughest challenge with English. It's even worse than seeing the logic in the pronounciation...:-) Jostein On 10/4/06, Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The use of the word itself is not so bad. Its use in relation to molested children portraits is what may have been unintentionally offensive to some people. Dan -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? In english, almost all rude slang is either scatological or sexual. Damn and its variants are the major exception. Unlike say french, where much rude slang is blasphmemous. We are equal opportunity profaners. Hence the term fucking hell If I can't get the coffee out of my keyboard, yer buying me a new one. Cappucino or latte? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Note, too, the difference in meaning of sodomize. In British English sodomy is pretty much synonomous with buggery; in American usage it means just about any variation on sexual activity apart from the most rudimentary forms. Oral sex, for example, is often described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting). I bet that leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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You know, getting the finer points right with slang terms is the toughest challenge with English. It's even worse than seeing the logic in the pronounciation...:-) Jostein === That's because there isn't any. Logic, that is. Marnie aka Doe ;-) Oh, there is! It's very simple and easy to understand, provided you can read and speak Anglo-Saxon, Old Norse, Latin and Norman French, and fully understand the history and background of the Great Vowel Shift. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 10/4/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, there is! It's very simple and easy to understand, provided you can read and speak Anglo-Saxon, Old Norse, Latin and Norman French, and fully understand the history and background of the Great Vowel Shift. Ah yes. The Great Vowel Shift (or as I prefer to call it, The Tense Vowel Shift). That's when the language started doing downhill, IMHO, and it's been going downhill ever since. chers (how's that for a long vowel?), fraank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From the Writers Alamanc - from American Public Media - from 9/28/2006 It was on this day in 1066 that William the Conqueror of Normandy arrived on British soil. He defeated the British in the Battle of Hastings, and on Christmas Day, he was crowned King of England in Westminster Abbey. One of the most important consequences of the Norman conquest of England was its effect on the English language. At the time, the British were speaking a combination of Saxon and Old Norse. The Normans spoke French. Over time, the languages blended, and the result was that English became a language incredibly rich in synonyms. Because the French speakers were aristocrats, the French words often became the fancy words for things. The Saxons had house; the Normans gave us mansion. The Saxons had cow; the Normans gave us beef. The Normans gave us excrement, for which the Saxons had lots of four letter words. The English language has gone on accepting additions to its vocabulary ever since the Norman invasion, and it now contains more than a million words, making it one of the most diverse languages on Earth. Tom C. From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 19:56:13 +0100 You know, getting the finer points right with slang terms is the toughest challenge with English. It's even worse than seeing the logic in the pronounciation...:-) Jostein === That's because there isn't any. Logic, that is. Marnie aka Doe ;-) Oh, there is! It's very simple and easy to understand, provided you can read and speak Anglo-Saxon, Old Norse, Latin and Norman French, and fully understand the history and background of the Great Vowel Shift. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Note, too, the difference in meaning of sodomize. In British English sodomy is pretty much synonomous with buggery; in American usage it means just about any variation on sexual activity apart from the most rudimentary forms. Oral sex, for example, is often described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting). The reason it's so used in news reporting is because it's defined as such in the *laws* of several states. No kidding. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I've known that buggery is a synonym for anal sex since I was a wee lad, and I'm an American. However, I think that in both America and England, the word has been used so freely to describe any mildly deviant activity that it has lost its edge. The same is true of sucks when used to denigrate something, as in That really sucks. In this context, the word originally was a synonym for oral sex practiced on a male of the species. Again, through overuse it has lost its meaning and has become a general term. Paul -- Original message -- From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Commonwealth is not offended. It's still compulsory in most schools. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: 04 October 2006 19:21 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? Well, you only offended the commonwealth, most Americans have no idea what Buggery is. Jostein Øksne wrote: Thanks Dan, When posting the original question I remembered very vividly my reaction to Becky Carter's imagery from last time around. The word molested slid very easily into my brain then. I suppose a hyphen between photoshop and the said word would have been more appropriate. My apologies if I have offended anyone, and thanks to Frank, Godfrey and you for setting me straight. You know, getting the finer points right with slang terms is the toughest challenge with English. It's even worse than seeing the logic in the pronounciation...:-) Jostein On 10/4/06, Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The use of the word itself is not so bad. Its use in relation to molested children portraits is what may have been unintentionally offensive to some people. Dan -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Now you ruined my keyboard, my brand new laptop! Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: 4. oktober 2006 20:54 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? - Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? In english, almost all rude slang is either scatological or sexual. Damn and its variants are the major exception. Unlike say french, where much rude slang is blasphmemous. We are equal opportunity profaners. Hence the term fucking hell If I can't get the coffee out of my keyboard, yer buying me a new one. Cappucino or latte? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Jostein Øksne wrote: Thanks Dan, When posting the original question I remembered very vividly my reaction to Becky Carter's imagery from last time around. The word molested slid very easily into my brain then. I suppose a hyphen between photoshop and the said word would have been more appropriate. My apologies if I have offended anyone, and thanks to Frank, Godfrey and you for setting me straight. You know, getting the finer points right with slang terms is the toughest challenge with English. It's even worse than seeing the logic in the pronounciation...:-) Jostein You're lucky! I've just been told that my polite enquiry in Polish Does Madam understand English? can, due to a slight mispronunciation of the sentence, be heard as This fourletter slang term for female sexual organ doesn't speak English. I did wonder why I sometimes got a startled look when I asked. On 10/4/06, Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The use of the word itself is not so bad. Its use in relation to molested children portraits is what may have been unintentionally offensive to some people. Dan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Note, too, the difference in meaning of sodomize. In British English sodomy is pretty much synonomous with buggery; in American usage it means just about any variation on sexual activity apart from the most rudimentary forms. Oral sex, for example, is often described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting). I bet that leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. Oh come now. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Note, too, the difference in meaning of sodomize. In British English sodomy is pretty much synonomous with buggery; in American usage it means just about any variation on sexual activity apart from the most rudimentary forms. Oral sex, for example, is often described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting). I bet that leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. Oh come now. I meant it tongue-in-cheek Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Cotty wrote: Note, too, the difference in meaning of sodomize. In British English sodomy is pretty much synonomous with buggery; in American usage it means just about any variation on sexual activity apart from the most rudimentary forms. Oral sex, for example, is often described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting). I bet that leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. Oh come now. It's *really* painful to laugh hard with a face full if stitches... -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Note, too, the difference in meaning of sodomize. In British English sodomy is pretty much synonomous with buggery; in American usage it means just about any variation on sexual activity apart from the most rudimentary forms. Oral sex, for example, is often described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting). I bet that leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. Oh come now. I meant it tongue-in-cheek Cunning! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Cotty wrote: Oral sex, for example, is often described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting). I bet that leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. Oh come now. I meant it tongue-in-cheek Cunning! Another pun thread... I'm gonna gag. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 05/10/06, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note, too, the difference in meaning of sodomize. In British English sodomy is pretty much synonomous with buggery; in American usage it means just about any variation on sexual activity apart from the most rudimentary forms. Oral sex, for example, is often described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting). I bet that leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. Oh come now. I meant it tongue-in-cheek Cunning! Linguistics! -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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At 02:06 AM 5/10/2006, John Francis wrote: On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 11:52:20AM +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness. To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to be this parlance that is more British English than American English, Quite. I'm often amused when a TV character with a British accent (such as Spike, in Buffy the Vampire Slayer) says Bugger off, or the like - it appears to be a loophole in the great American puritanical broadcast TV vocabulary rules. . . . I was curious so I looked up the word in the OED: bugger . . . penetrate the anus of (someone) during sexual intercourse; sodomize. Note, too, the difference in meaning of sodomize. In British English sodomy is pretty much synonomous with buggery; in American usage it means just about any variation on sexual activity apart from the most rudimentary forms. Oral sex, for example, is often described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting). So calling someone a miserable sod, for example, is the same as calling them a miserable bugger. I hadn't given the word sod much thought until now. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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David Savage wrote: At 02:06 AM 5/10/2006, John Francis wrote: On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 11:52:20AM +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness. To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to be this parlance that is more British English than American English, Quite. I'm often amused when a TV character with a British accent (such as Spike, in Buffy the Vampire Slayer) says Bugger off, or the like - it appears to be a loophole in the great American puritanical broadcast TV vocabulary rules. . . . I was curious so I looked up the word in the OED: bugger . . . penetrate the anus of (someone) during sexual intercourse; sodomize. Note, too, the difference in meaning of sodomize. In British English sodomy is pretty much synonomous with buggery; in American usage it means just about any variation on sexual activity apart from the most rudimentary forms. Oral sex, for example, is often described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting). So calling someone a miserable sod, for example, is the same as calling them a miserable bugger. I don't think so. Not in the U.S. anyhow. keith whaley I hadn't given the word sod much thought until now. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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At 06:22 AM 5/10/2006, you wrote: Note, too, the difference in meaning of sodomize. In British English sodomy is pretty much synonomous with buggery; in American usage it means just about any variation on sexual activity apart from the most rudimentary forms. Oral sex, for example, is often described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting). I bet that leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. Oh come now. I meant it tongue-in-cheek Are you sure it was a tongue? Dave ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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While sodomize has retained much of its original meaning, sod has been watered down over time. It originally meant a sodomizer and was also used as a derogatory term for homosexual. In modern parlance, it has come to mean chap or guy in some contexts and kid or brat in others. Paul On Oct 4, 2006, at 9:11 PM, David Savage wrote: At 02:06 AM 5/10/2006, John Francis wrote: On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 11:52:20AM +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness. To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to be this parlance that is more British English than American English, Quite. I'm often amused when a TV character with a British accent (such as Spike, in Buffy the Vampire Slayer) says Bugger off, or the like - it appears to be a loophole in the great American puritanical broadcast TV vocabulary rules. . . . I was curious so I looked up the word in the OED: bugger . . . penetrate the anus of (someone) during sexual intercourse; sodomize. Note, too, the difference in meaning of sodomize. In British English sodomy is pretty much synonomous with buggery; in American usage it means just about any variation on sexual activity apart from the most rudimentary forms. Oral sex, for example, is often described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting). So calling someone a miserable sod, for example, is the same as calling them a miserable bugger. I hadn't given the word sod much thought until now. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Same thing is true of Punk. Paul Stenquist wrote: While sodomize has retained much of its original meaning, sod has been watered down over time. It originally meant a sodomizer and was also used as a derogatory term for homosexual. In modern parlance, it has come to mean chap or guy in some contexts and kid or brat in others. Paul On Oct 4, 2006, at 9:11 PM, David Savage wrote: At 02:06 AM 5/10/2006, John Francis wrote: On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 11:52:20AM +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I don't know what the issue is other than prudishness. To bugger someone means to have anal intercourse with them. Seems to be this parlance that is more British English than American English, Quite. I'm often amused when a TV character with a British accent (such as Spike, in Buffy the Vampire Slayer) says Bugger off, or the like - it appears to be a loophole in the great American puritanical broadcast TV vocabulary rules. . . . I was curious so I looked up the word in the OED: bugger . . . penetrate the anus of (someone) during sexual intercourse; sodomize. Note, too, the difference in meaning of sodomize. In British English sodomy is pretty much synonomous with buggery; in American usage it means just about any variation on sexual activity apart from the most rudimentary forms. Oral sex, for example, is often described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting). So calling someone a miserable sod, for example, is the same as calling them a miserable bugger. I hadn't given the word sod much thought until now. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Monica, where are you when we need you ? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? Note, too, the difference in meaning of sodomize. In British English sodomy is pretty much synonomous with buggery; in American usage it means just about any variation on sexual activity apart from the most rudimentary forms. Oral sex, for example, is often described as sodomy (especially in American news reporting). I bet that leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. Oh come now. I meant it tongue-in-cheek Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Oct 5, 2006, at 5:38 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote: From www.onelook.com: Quick definitions (pom) noun: a disparaging term for English immigrants to Australia or New Zealand I wouldnt say it's disparaging, unless we're using the term whinging pom (very rare these days). If what I see in the local news is anything to go by, the whinging kiwi is far more common :/ - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Oct 5, 2006, at 12:29 AM, David Savage wrote: It's pretty mild language here. I tend to utter it when something stuffs up. An ad campaign a few years ago for Toyota New Zealand featured it quite heavily: http://www.videofoundry.co.nz/ianman/humour/bugger.html From what I've read it received 100+ official complaints in NZ and 1 here in Oz. I guess there are more prudes in New Zealand ;-) The Broadcasting Standards Authority allowed it to air despite the mountains of complaints. Bloody good too. If there are any prudes in this country, I certainly don't know them. - Dave (who tends to say much worse things than that) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 9/30/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Dave, That's the bugger. Bad choice of words, Jostein (recognizing, of course, that as English isn't your first language, you may not know what bugger is slang for). I should write you off list. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Please do Frank... Jostein On 10/3/06, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/30/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Dave, That's the bugger. Bad choice of words, Jostein (recognizing, of course, that as English isn't your first language, you may not know what bugger is slang for). I should write you off list. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Aw common! The scarring from the first time around just healed and look what comes back upg. Mitch David Savage wrote: Is this the one? http://beckycarter.com/ shudder Dave On 10/1/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while back, someone posted a link to the work of a children's portrait photographer who thoroughly mashed up the portraits to look like some kind of glam shots. Does anyone still remember, and have a link? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.11/460 - Release Date: 10/1/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 01/10/06, J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True mate, but the thought process that leads to people thinking children should look like this is not dissimilar to one that leads to those worse things you allude to. IMO kids should not be made up to look like sex symbols, full stop. Of course but the question is where do you draw the line, how about banning pretty dresses, jewelery and make up for under 18's? -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Iwonder how they do that. Looks more like excessive use of a noise filter like Neat Image ... Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Jostein Øksne Sendt: 30. september 2006 20:31 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? Thanks Dave, That's the bugger. Jostein On 9/30/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the one? http://beckycarter.com/ shudder Dave On 10/1/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while back, someone posted a link to the work of a children's portrait photographer who thoroughly mashed up the portraits to look like some kind of glam shots. Does anyone still remember, and have a link? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 09/29/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 09/29/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I have tried to filter an image (Neat Image), fist trated with PS artistic filters. Not really like Becfky Carters photographs, but rather fun abyway: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/257072369/ Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Matt Kelch Sendt: 1. oktober 2006 05:08 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? Its still scary. The eyes are the worst... All of them have the exact same stare. Paul Stenquist wrote: They can. But this lady serves a limited market. It's weird, but she's apparently making money. That's not weird. Paul On Sep 30, 2006, at 7:18 PM, J and K Messervy wrote: Absolutely hideous. Why can't kids look like kids? - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 3:31 AM Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? Is this the one? http://beckycarter.com/ shudder Dave On 10/1/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while back, someone posted a link to the work of a children's portrait photographer who thoroughly mashed up the portraits to look like some kind of glam shots. Does anyone still remember, and have a link? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 09/29/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 09/29/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Den 1. okt. 2006 kl. 08.25 skrev Digital Image Studio: On 01/10/06, J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True mate, but the thought process that leads to people thinking children should look like this is not dissimilar to one that leads to those worse things you allude to. IMO kids should not be made up to look like sex symbols, full stop. Of course but the question is where do you draw the line, how about banning pretty dresses, jewelery and make up for under 18's? Yep, that´s the problem. Children dress up, have pretty clothes, try to look like grown-ups, and sometimes trying to look like crown-ups trying to look sexy. It is innocent. In my mind these pictures are over the line and lots worse than seeing them play naked in the sun, but they are more difficult to make rules against. I wonder what the US rules have done with the beautiful animated african stories about Kirikou. All of the kids are naked and the women are topless, but there is nothing sexual about them. Then compare them to some of the girls in movies from Disney. They are dressed, but... DagT http://dag.foto.no Beware of internet links. You never know what is on the other side. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Good point, we're not the Taliban. I suppose it's a grey area and I have a tendency towards black and white statements. A bit of common sense though. Kids can wear makeup and look glamorous when they're adults. - Original Message - From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 4:25 PM Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? On 01/10/06, J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True mate, but the thought process that leads to people thinking children should look like this is not dissimilar to one that leads to those worse things you allude to. IMO kids should not be made up to look like sex symbols, full stop. Of course but the question is where do you draw the line, how about banning pretty dresses, jewelery and make up for under 18's? -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Sep 30, 2006, at 11:08 PM, Matt Kelch wrote: Its still scary. The eyes are the worst... All of them have the exact same stare. Yeah, like taxidermist's eyes. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Here's a shot done with a semi-transparetn gaussian blur layer that is erased around the eyes. I think Becky uses more blur and enlarges the eyes a bit as well. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1271195 On Oct 1, 2006, at 3:26 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: I have tried to filter an image (Neat Image), fist trated with PS artistic filters. Not really like Becfky Carters photographs, but rather fun abyway: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/257072369/ Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Matt Kelch Sendt: 1. oktober 2006 05:08 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? Its still scary. The eyes are the worst... All of them have the exact same stare. Paul Stenquist wrote: They can. But this lady serves a limited market. It's weird, but she's apparently making money. That's not weird. Paul On Sep 30, 2006, at 7:18 PM, J and K Messervy wrote: Absolutely hideous. Why can't kids look like kids? - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 3:31 AM Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? Is this the one? http://beckycarter.com/ shudder Dave On 10/1/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while back, someone posted a link to the work of a children's portrait photographer who thoroughly mashed up the portraits to look like some kind of glam shots. Does anyone still remember, and have a link? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 09/29/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 09/29/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Most likely a gaussian blur layer that is semi transparent and erased around eyes and other details. Paul On Oct 1, 2006, at 3:11 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: Iwonder how they do that. Looks more like excessive use of a noise filter like Neat Image ... Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Jostein Øksne Sendt: 30. september 2006 20:31 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? Thanks Dave, That's the bugger. Jostein On 9/30/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the one? http://beckycarter.com/ shudder Dave On 10/1/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while back, someone posted a link to the work of a children's portrait photographer who thoroughly mashed up the portraits to look like some kind of glam shots. Does anyone still remember, and have a link? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 09/29/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 09/29/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Like one of those horror movies in which dolls or Teddy Bears come to live and kill... kill ... kill. The person who does that stuff needs professional help. D Bob Shell wrote: On Sep 30, 2006, at 11:08 PM, Matt Kelch wrote: Its still scary. The eyes are the worst... All of them have the exact same stare. Yeah, like taxidermist's eyes. Bob -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Is this the one? http://beckycarter.com/ shudder Dave On 10/1/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while back, someone posted a link to the work of a children's portrait photographer who thoroughly mashed up the portraits to look like some kind of glam shots. Does anyone still remember, and have a link? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 01/10/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the one? http://beckycarter.com/ shudder That was fast, was that in your bookmarks Dave? ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Send in the Clones... On Sep 30, 2006, at 1:31 PM, David Savage wrote: Is this the one? http://beckycarter.com/ shudder Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 10/1/06, Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 01/10/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the one? http://beckycarter.com/ shudder That was fast, was that in your bookmarks Dave? ;-) Yep, under Photoshop What not to do Ha! Dave (BC and hose images are burnt into my memory ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Thanks Dave, That's the bugger. Jostein On 9/30/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this the one? http://beckycarter.com/ shudder Dave On 10/1/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while back, someone posted a link to the work of a children's portrait photographer who thoroughly mashed up the portraits to look like some kind of glam shots. Does anyone still remember, and have a link? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Den 30. sep. 2006 kl. 19.26 skrev Jostein Øksne: A while back, someone posted a link to the work of a children's portrait photographer who thoroughly mashed up the portraits to look like some kind of glam shots. Does anyone still remember, and have a link? Ha, now I know why you asked: http://www.foto.no/cgi-bin/diskusjon/lesInnlegg.cgi?id=241231 .-) DagT http://dag.foto.no Beware of internet links. You never know what is on the other side. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Awful, almost as bad as missy contests for children i the US. DagT Den 30. sep. 2006 kl. 19.31 skrev David Savage: Is this the one? http://beckycarter.com/ shudder Dave On 10/1/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while back, someone posted a link to the work of a children's portrait photographer who thoroughly mashed up the portraits to look like some kind of glam shots. Does anyone still remember, and have a link? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Yup, I thought it was appropriate for the thread...:-) Jostein On 9/30/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Den 30. sep. 2006 kl. 19.26 skrev Jostein Øksne: A while back, someone posted a link to the work of a children's portrait photographer who thoroughly mashed up the portraits to look like some kind of glam shots. Does anyone still remember, and have a link? Ha, now I know why you asked: http://www.foto.no/cgi-bin/diskusjon/lesInnlegg.cgi?id=241231 .-) DagT http://dag.foto.no Beware of internet links. You never know what is on the other side. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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It was. Someone in that thread reacted by remembering JonBenet. To the others: The thread is actually about some very negative reactions to a photographer who said that she could remove zits (is that the right word?) and other skin problems from pictures of children. DagT Den 30. sep. 2006 kl. 20.51 skrev Jostein Øksne: Yup, I thought it was appropriate for the thread...:-) Jostein On 9/30/06, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Den 30. sep. 2006 kl. 19.26 skrev Jostein Øksne: A while back, someone posted a link to the work of a children's portrait photographer who thoroughly mashed up the portraits to look like some kind of glam shots. Does anyone still remember, and have a link? Ha, now I know why you asked: http://www.foto.no/cgi-bin/diskusjon/lesInnlegg.cgi?id=241231 .-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Absolutely hideous. Why can't kids look like kids? - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 3:31 AM Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? Is this the one? http://beckycarter.com/ shudder Dave On 10/1/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while back, someone posted a link to the work of a children's portrait photographer who thoroughly mashed up the portraits to look like some kind of glam shots. Does anyone still remember, and have a link? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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They can. But this lady serves a limited market. It's weird, but she's apparently making money. That's not weird. Paul On Sep 30, 2006, at 7:18 PM, J and K Messervy wrote: Absolutely hideous. Why can't kids look like kids? - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 3:31 AM Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? Is this the one? http://beckycarter.com/ shudder Dave On 10/1/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while back, someone posted a link to the work of a children's portrait photographer who thoroughly mashed up the portraits to look like some kind of glam shots. Does anyone still remember, and have a link? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?
Its still scary. The eyes are the worst... All of them have the exact same stare. Paul Stenquist wrote: They can. But this lady serves a limited market. It's weird, but she's apparently making money. That's not weird. Paul On Sep 30, 2006, at 7:18 PM, J and K Messervy wrote: Absolutely hideous. Why can't kids look like kids? - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 3:31 AM Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? Is this the one? http://beckycarter.com/ shudder Dave On 10/1/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while back, someone posted a link to the work of a children's portrait photographer who thoroughly mashed up the portraits to look like some kind of glam shots. Does anyone still remember, and have a link? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 01/10/06, Matt Kelch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its still scary. The eyes are the worst... All of them have the exact same stare. The Stepford children -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?
I just find it sick. - Original Message - From: Matt Kelch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 1:08 PM Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? Its still scary. The eyes are the worst... All of them have the exact same stare. Paul Stenquist wrote: They can. But this lady serves a limited market. It's weird, but she's apparently making money. That's not weird. Paul On Sep 30, 2006, at 7:18 PM, J and K Messervy wrote: Absolutely hideous. Why can't kids look like kids? - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 3:31 AM Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? Is this the one? http://beckycarter.com/ shudder Dave On 10/1/06, Jostein Øksne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while back, someone posted a link to the work of a children's portrait photographer who thoroughly mashed up the portraits to look like some kind of glam shots. Does anyone still remember, and have a link? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 01/10/06, J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just find it sick. It's different but there are a whole lot of worse things that people do with children, got to consider it in perspective. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits?
True mate, but the thought process that leads to people thinking children should look like this is not dissimilar to one that leads to those worse things you allude to. IMO kids should not be made up to look like sex symbols, full stop. James - Original Message - From: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Need help: Photoshop molested children portraits? On 01/10/06, J and K Messervy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just find it sick. It's different but there are a whole lot of worse things that people do with children, got to consider it in perspective. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
