Re: Photo Software
Sorry to be so late in responding. Many have praised Picture Window Pro. Do a search. About $100. Jeff Geilenkirchen wrote: I'm at a loss for use with photo software since my PhotoShop CD appears to be not usable anymore when I needed to reinstall it. :-/ Does anyone have any recommendations for some economical photoediting software as a replacement to PS since it's so expensive? Or would anyone know where to get PS copy at a reduced price?
Re: Photo Software
On Fri, 2004-04-02 at 14:45, danilo wrote: > Alle 17:32, mercoledì 31 marzo 2004, Frits Wüthrich ha scritto: > > I don't like the GIMP very much. My experience is not based on the > > version 2 release though, but on older versions, and only on Linux. > > 16 bit per colour is not supported, no colour management, awkward user > > interface, although one might get used to it, a lot of tools don't have > > a preview for the effects > > Thank you, I really want to know what a PhotoShop user miss in The GIMP, you > have pointed out three non-present features (sry, awkward UI isn't a missing > features for me ;) ). > > I'm going to check out if you are right or if, meanwhile, they have > implemented them... > > I'll be back with my silly posts > > > ciao > Danilo. No silly post, it is a good question. And you are correct, the UI is a personal thing, perhaps people who always used the GIMP love it and hate Photoshop etc. -- Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Alle 17:32, mercoledì 31 marzo 2004, Frits Wüthrich ha scritto: > I don't like the GIMP very much. My experience is not based on the > version 2 release though, but on older versions, and only on Linux. > 16 bit per colour is not supported, no colour management, awkward user > interface, although one might get used to it, a lot of tools don't have > a preview for the effects Thank you, I really want to know what a PhotoShop user miss in The GIMP, you have pointed out three non-present features (sry, awkward UI isn't a missing features for me ;) ). I'm going to check out if you are right or if, meanwhile, they have implemented them... I'll be back with my silly posts ciao Danilo. ---
Re: Photo Software
I don't like the GIMP very much. My experience is not based on the version 2 release though, but on older versions, and only on Linux. 16 bit per colour is not supported, no colour management, awkward user interface, although one might get used to it, a lot of tools don't have a preview for the effects On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 20:01, danilo wrote: > Hi Jeff (and all of you), > have you then tryied The GIMP? > or did you choose some other software? > If you've choosed the GIMP, do you like it? Is it a valid substitute of PS > (for what you need)? > > I use it since I do not have PS (actually I do not have windows too) and I can > do everything I need in a photo-editing session, I'd like to hear your > comments as a Photoshop user... > > Anyone else is invited too > > ciao > Danilo > > > Alle 16:12, giovedì 25 marzo 2004, Jeff Geilenkirchen ha scritto: > > Hello everyone! > > > > I'm at a loss for use with photo software since my PhotoShop CD appears to > > be not usable anymore when I needed to reinstall it. :-/ > > > > Does anyone have any recommendations for some economical photoediting > > software as a replacement to PS since it's so expensive? Or would anyone > > know where to get PS copy at a reduced price? > > > > Thoughts & suggestions are welcome! :-) > > > > Thank you for your time, > > > > Jeff > > -- Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Many thanks for all the replies. I have a good plan on how to proceed now. Jeff -Original Message- From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 9:47 AM To: Jeff Geilenkirchen Subject: Re: Photo Software Hi! Jeff, if you have valid license and bad CD of an old PS version, perhaps it is worth calling the Adobe and without telling the CD is bad you might want to request an update for the latest PS version. I suppose you would get it for a low price as it is an upgrade. And of course, then you would receive a working CD... HTH. Boris ([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
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A very good program is Micrografx Picture Publisher. Corell bought it and killed it. But you might be able to find a version 7 or 8. It can do allmost anything Photoshop does - and more (you can reverse anything, even after saving a file). All the best Jens Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jeff Geilenkirchen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 25. marts 2004 17:13 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Photo Software Hello everyone! I'm at a loss for use with photo software since my PhotoShop CD appears to be not usable anymore when I needed to reinstall it. :-/ Does anyone have any recommendations for some economical photoediting software as a replacement to PS since it's so expensive? Or would anyone know where to get PS copy at a reduced price? Thoughts & suggestions are welcome! :-) Thank you for your time, Jeff
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Which version of photoshop? if you have your serial number, yuo can still install from anyone's CD its not a CDkey like Microsoft products -Original Message- From: Jeff Geilenkirchen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Mar 25, 2004 10:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Photo Software Hello everyone! I'm at a loss for use with photo software since my PhotoShop CD appears to be not usable anymore when I needed to reinstall it. :-/ Does anyone have any recommendations for some economical photoediting software as a replacement to PS since it's so expensive? Or would anyone know where to get PS copy at a reduced price? Thoughts & suggestions are welcome! :-) Thank you for your time, Jeff
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My first suggestion is to check with Adobe and see if they will not replace the CD if you send in the bad one. Of course that presupposes you have an original CD. If it is an older version they allow a huge discount on upgrades. -- Jeff Geilenkirchen wrote: Hello everyone! I'm at a loss for use with photo software since my PhotoShop CD appears to be not usable anymore when I needed to reinstall it. :-/ Does anyone have any recommendations for some economical photoediting software as a replacement to PS since it's so expensive? Or would anyone know where to get PS copy at a reduced price? Thoughts & suggestions are welcome! :-) Thank you for your time, Jeff -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
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There is a Photoshop mailing list that has a > number of very knowledgeable people on it. It's a bit over moderated but > otherwise friendly. > > Butch Understatement there Butch. A number of my replies have been bounced and some questions seem to be rejected by the list moms. Not enough words like "Photo" or "Shop" in the body of the message i quess.:-) Dave
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Hi Jeff; If you are running Photoshop CS there seems to be some glitches in the system. If you haven't already, try a complete re-install instead of the standard. If it's a problem of the CD being physically bad try contacting Adobe help. CS has to be activated by registration, so if you have a legal copy and never registered you need to register it. If you're running a bootleg copy you're SOOL. There is a Photoshop mailing list that has a number of very knowledgeable people on it. It's a bit over moderated but otherwise friendly. Their address is: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] but don't expect help if the copy is bootleg. If you need to buy and are or know someone who is a student there are deals on academic versions of Photoshop that are perfectly legal to buy/run. Butch Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hesse (Demian)
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You'll find in The GIMP http://www.gimp.org A great powerfull image editor program If you need to edit photos it's ok, you probably won't miss Photoshop at all (however you'll need a little initial time to find it's great number of utitlities) It's Free Software, i.e. you can download it and use it, even for commercial use, and you do not need to pay a buck for it . Two days ago they have released the last stable version ( the 2.0 !!, it has been in unstable-status for three years long) so you'll probably need to look again in the next few days, as they are going to port all the old software to work with the new version in the next days. There are also a lot of resources on how to use it. one of the most complete is Grokking the GIMP: http://gimp-savvy.com/BOOK/ (don't fear the work BOOK, it is on line in html, free access granted for everyone out there. Still you can buy a printed version, your choise) Try it out, and let us know. BTW (IIRC) it can use even photoshop filter, and there is also a program , dcraw, http://www.cybercom.net/~dcoffin/dcraw/ that converts RAW photo (from various manufacturer) into TIFF/jpeg that can work inside GIMP (you should really read more on the links I gave about this) Once you'll know it, you really won't miss photoshop, instead you'll become to ask WHY so much person still use those expeeensive software (PS) for editing photos. There is also a version used in film editing (it was used in a lot of films e.g. Scooby-Doo, and other i can't remember) and it's called Film-Gimp (formerly known as Gimp-Hollywood) (sry, you must search with google for this one ;) ) ciao Danilo (no, I am not involved at all in The GIMP project. I'm only a very satisfied user)
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There is a pirate offering both Microsoft and Adobe CD's on the Web. I understand they work just fine, cost is $50-$80 USD, comes from St. Petersberg Russia.> If ever you're in South-east Asia, you can pick up practically anything for about $5. From what I've heard, most are OK and some just have little bugs, such as poor uninstallation. There is a massive crack-down currently underway, but whenever a shop or stall is closed down it just reopens somewhere else or someone else fills the gap. If you do try them, expect no support from the developers and the possibility (although extremely remote) of a hefty fine if caught using it. Plus this is actually theft - whether you think that stealing from Microsoft is fair enough considering their pretty nasty business practices is your call! Matt
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There is a pirate offering both Microsoft and Adobe CD's on the Web. I understand they work just fine, cost is $50-$80 USD, comes from St. Petersberg Russia.> Hello everyone! > >I'm at a loss for use with photo software since my PhotoShop CD appears to >be not usable anymore when I needed to reinstall it. :-/ > >Does anyone have any recommendations for some economical photoediting >software as a replacement to PS since it's so expensive? Or would anyone >know where to get PS copy at a reduced price? > >Thoughts & suggestions are welcome! :-) > >Thank you for your time, > >Jeff > > >
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Hi Jeff I know you can download Paintshop Pro for a trial period of (I think) 60 days. I think some others (Rob?) might have recommended this software as well. It's available at http://www.jasc.com/products/paintshoppro but I think it's quite a large download- might be a bit tricky if you're on dial-up. It seems pretty user-friendly, but as digital is a bit out of my price range so far I haven't tied too much so I'm probably not the best judge! It's certainly quite an established product. Cheers Matt The copy I have is pretty old. Considering the advancement of digital photo processing I figured there had to be something out there someone knew about which could handle the same basic stuff that PhotoShop did at a more reasonable price.
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Good points Matt! The copy I have is pretty old. Considering the advancement of digital photo processing I figured there had to be something out there someone knew about which could handle the same basic stuff that PhotoShop did at a more reasonable price. J -Original Message- From: Matt Giess [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 8:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Photo Software Hi Jeff > I'm at a loss for use with photo software since my PhotoShop CD appears to > be not usable anymore when I needed to reinstall it. :-/ you should be able to approach the publishers of the software for a replacement CD at a nominal cost - the massive cost of the software is for the license to use it, not for the medium it is transferred to you in. As an example, I bought my girlfriend 'The Sims', a popular computer game, but the CD was badly scratched by a dodgy CD drive. We contacted the manufacturer, and received a replacement CD for £7.50 ($12 or so) which just covers the costs of actually sending us a new CD, not the cost of the licence. Of course, this assumes that you actually hold a licence and you have a version of PhotoShop that is still supported - I'm not sure what will happen if you have an older version. I'm pretty sure that copyright law allows you to burn a back-up CD for your own use, if you manage to get a replacement it may be worth doing so and storing the original well out of harm's way - as both of us have found out to our cost, CDs are not indestructible! Hope this helps Matt
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on 25.03.04 17:12, Jeff Geilenkirchen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Does anyone have any recommendations for some economical photoediting > software as a replacement to PS since it's so expensive? Or would anyone > know where to get PS copy at a reduced price? > > Thoughts & suggestions are welcome! :-) > > Thank you for your time, Try Photoline 32. It was once the best photo editor for Atari 16/32 bit computers (also known as Cranach studio, later as Photoline), it has many useful features, can use layers and some Photoshop plug-ins and now is available for Mac and Windows as a 30-days demo at www.pl32.com -- Best Regards Sylwek
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Hi Jeff I'm at a loss for use with photo software since my PhotoShop CD appears to be not usable anymore when I needed to reinstall it. :-/ you should be able to approach the publishers of the software for a replacement CD at a nominal cost - the massive cost of the software is for the license to use it, not for the medium it is transferred to you in. As an example, I bought my girlfriend 'The Sims', a popular computer game, but the CD was badly scratched by a dodgy CD drive. We contacted the manufacturer, and received a replacement CD for £7.50 ($12 or so) which just covers the costs of actually sending us a new CD, not the cost of the licence. Of course, this assumes that you actually hold a licence and you have a version of PhotoShop that is still supported - I'm not sure what will happen if you have an older version. I'm pretty sure that copyright law allows you to burn a back-up CD for your own use, if you manage to get a replacement it may be worth doing so and storing the original well out of harm's way - as both of us have found out to our cost, CDs are not indestructible! Hope this helps Matt
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What about Paint Shop Pro or Photoshop Elements? Much cheaper. I far prefer PSP to Photoshop anyway. The Pentax RAW convertor in Photoshop CS is the best out there at the moment though if you don't want to compromise... > -Original Message- > From: Jeff Geilenkirchen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 25 March 2004 16:13 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Photo Software > > > Hello everyone! > > I'm at a loss for use with photo software since my PhotoShop > CD appears to > be not usable anymore when I needed to reinstall it. :-/ > > Does anyone have any recommendations for some economical > photoediting software as a replacement to PS since it's so > expensive? Or would anyone know where to get PS copy at a > reduced price? > > Thoughts & suggestions are welcome! :-) > > Thank you for your time, > > Jeff > >
