Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-12-04 Thread graywolf
It used to be usual for studios to buy their film in case lots direct from 
Kodak. Kodak treated them just like they were a large photo store. I do not know 
if that is still the case, or not.

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Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

Dave said:

"Someday we might see ourselves having to order film from places like B&H
because finding a good selection if any downtown might be tough.  And we
might become dependent on mail order processing, which for the most part is
the way slides always have been.  But I doubt we will see film literally
disappear.  I'm considering trying to process color negatives at home.  But
that part only and then scan the negs as usual."
Dave, you just explained my life, LITERALLY.  I have to order all of my film
from Photocontinental in Brisbane, which is a complete pain in the butt.  I
order propacks by the dozen, which means CONSTANT mail ordering, and BIG
outlays of money at any one given time - a normal film order for me is in
excess of au$300, and I do this at least once or twice per fortnight.  It
drives me completely in sane - particularly as I am a "touch and see" type
of person and I like to be able to browse everything that is available to
me, pick it up, turn it over etc, but with my film, I have to go by whatever
the salesperson on the phone tries to tell me. It also means that I have to
know at least 2 weeks in advance for all of my bookings to allow time for me
to order film in specific to the job.  The only film I can buy in town is
Fuji Superior 100, 200 and 400, (which I have used MANY a time, when I have
been "stuck"), Kodak Select Black and White (which I HATE), and the new
Kodak High Definition (which only comes in equivalent to ISO 200 in
Australia, I *think*). ALL of my processing is also mail order, which means
it takes 2-3 weeks for my prints to come back from the time I sent them off.
Just had a nice surprise this morning, got back some prints from a shoot I
did on Frid. 21 Nov - exactly 2 weeks ago!  Woohoo!  That was QUICK by my
standards.
I too, have been considering processing my own colour negs at home, but have
decided against standing there inhaling chemicals all day, and plus the
*istD is imminent, so I won't NEED to worry about silly little things like
film anymore!
tan.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Miers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 5:25 AM
Subject: Re: Silly Digital Survey



Someday we might see ourselves having to order film from places like B&H
because finding a good selection if any downtown might be tough.  And we
might become dependent on mail order processing, which for the most part
is

the way slides always have been.  But I doubt we will see film literally
disappear.  I'm considering trying to process color negatives at home.
But

that part only and then scan the negs as usual.  Unlike some here I
actually

enjoy the process of scanning and working on my photos.  I cannot deny the
urge for the digital gear but truly wonder if that's mostly gearitis
rather

then need or even should.  I'm not running a production line here but
lovingly pursuing my hobby ya know.
If I could do that it would eliminate the trip and the wait for the
processing and remove me from being dependant on the market.  I'm going to
take a class in college on photography next semester and although they
deal

with B&W only there, I'm hoping the instructor can also guide me through
color film processing.
Dave
- Original Message -
From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: Silly Digital Survey


On 29 Nov 2003 at 9:59, Shel Belinkoff wrote:


With fond memories of surveys past :

1) How many
Catching up again:

Unfortunately I fit none of the categories offered. I haven't moved to
digital

but for snaps as I'm not yet comfortable with the level of K mount
camera

offered by Pentax. I do however see myself eliminating my use of film in
the

35mm realm given a suitable body. And I'll still be pushing film through
my MF

bodies as long as it's produced and supported.

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998




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Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-12-04 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Dave said:

"Someday we might see ourselves having to order film from places like B&H
because finding a good selection if any downtown might be tough.  And we
might become dependent on mail order processing, which for the most part is
the way slides always have been.  But I doubt we will see film literally
disappear.  I'm considering trying to process color negatives at home.  But
that part only and then scan the negs as usual."

Dave, you just explained my life, LITERALLY.  I have to order all of my film
from Photocontinental in Brisbane, which is a complete pain in the butt.  I
order propacks by the dozen, which means CONSTANT mail ordering, and BIG
outlays of money at any one given time - a normal film order for me is in
excess of au$300, and I do this at least once or twice per fortnight.  It
drives me completely in sane - particularly as I am a "touch and see" type
of person and I like to be able to browse everything that is available to
me, pick it up, turn it over etc, but with my film, I have to go by whatever
the salesperson on the phone tries to tell me. It also means that I have to
know at least 2 weeks in advance for all of my bookings to allow time for me
to order film in specific to the job.  The only film I can buy in town is
Fuji Superior 100, 200 and 400, (which I have used MANY a time, when I have
been "stuck"), Kodak Select Black and White (which I HATE), and the new
Kodak High Definition (which only comes in equivalent to ISO 200 in
Australia, I *think*). ALL of my processing is also mail order, which means
it takes 2-3 weeks for my prints to come back from the time I sent them off.
Just had a nice surprise this morning, got back some prints from a shoot I
did on Frid. 21 Nov - exactly 2 weeks ago!  Woohoo!  That was QUICK by my
standards.

I too, have been considering processing my own colour negs at home, but have
decided against standing there inhaling chemicals all day, and plus the
*istD is imminent, so I won't NEED to worry about silly little things like
film anymore!

tan.

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Miers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 5:25 AM
Subject: Re: Silly Digital Survey


> Someday we might see ourselves having to order film from places like B&H
> because finding a good selection if any downtown might be tough.  And we
> might become dependent on mail order processing, which for the most part
is
> the way slides always have been.  But I doubt we will see film literally
> disappear.  I'm considering trying to process color negatives at home.
But
> that part only and then scan the negs as usual.  Unlike some here I
actually
> enjoy the process of scanning and working on my photos.  I cannot deny the
> urge for the digital gear but truly wonder if that's mostly gearitis
rather
> then need or even should.  I'm not running a production line here but
> lovingly pursuing my hobby ya know.
>
> If I could do that it would eliminate the trip and the wait for the
> processing and remove me from being dependant on the market.  I'm going to
> take a class in college on photography next semester and although they
deal
> with B&W only there, I'm hoping the instructor can also guide me through
> color film processing.
>
> Dave
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:56 AM
> Subject: Re: Silly Digital Survey
>
>
> > On 29 Nov 2003 at 9:59, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> >
> > > With fond memories of surveys past :
> > >
> > >
> > > 1) How many
> >
> > Catching up again:
> >
> > Unfortunately I fit none of the categories offered. I haven't moved to
> digital
> > but for snaps as I'm not yet comfortable with the level of K mount
camera
> > offered by Pentax. I do however see myself eliminating my use of film in
> the
> > 35mm realm given a suitable body. And I'll still be pushing film through
> my MF
> > bodies as long as it's produced and supported.
> >
> > Rob Studdert
> > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
> > Tel +61-2-9554-4110
> > UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
> > Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
> >
>
>



Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-12-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 29 Nov 2003 at 9:59, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> With fond memories of surveys past :
> 
> 
> 1) How many 

Catching up again:

Unfortunately I fit none of the categories offered. I haven't moved to digital 
but for snaps as I'm not yet comfortable with the level of K mount camera 
offered by Pentax. I do however see myself eliminating my use of film in the 
35mm realm given a suitable body. And I'll still be pushing film through my MF 
bodies as long as it's produced and supported.

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-30 Thread Dave Miers

> -- 1) How many have totally given up shooting film and have moved
> -- completely to digital (That means no film and film cameras in your
> -- equipment cabinet)?

Nope, not me!  I've still got loads of film and SLR Camera equipment and
normally only shoot film.

> -- 2) How many are in the process of doing so (like Bruce, who
> -- is actually
> -- selling equipment) as opposed to "thinking about it," which doesn't
> -- count in this survey.
Well I guess I don't count since I'm still tossing the idea around.

> -- 3) How many have made the switch to digital, but keep a film camera
> -- around for one reason or another, although you do not use,
> -- and have not
> -- used, the film camera since acquiring your digital camera?
Well I own a 4 MP digital P&S, but have basically been totally disgusted
with it's focusing, shutter lag, lack of decent flash power and no hot shoe,
lack of contrast, color, and sharpness, eating of batteries, lack of raw
file output, icky viewfinder and the LCD is totally useless outside in the
daytime.  Did I miss anything? GRRR!  So again I leave the digital at
home and only use it for selling stuff on ebay for the most part.  Thus far
I've only found digital aggravating in performance and don't enjoy my
experience with this camera (Minolta Dimage s404).  I have a hard time being
creative with it as I am with 35mm SLR's.  I'm really unsure at this point
if I would be happy even with a digital SLR and since to finance such a move
I would have to sell my existing equipment it doesn't seem logical at this
point to me.  My biggest concern here I guess is getting taken for the value
of my existing equipment in the future if prices continue to drop.

If I go digital at this point I would also have to switch to either Nikon or
Canon since I've not been impressed with the reports or results of the *istD
thus far and it is only a first generation camera as well.  The pros seem to
think 6MP is enough, but considering the ppi's I get from scanning with only
2830dpi scanner generate a larger image you gotta wonder.  If the canon 10D
price only had 10 true MP I'd bite I think.  For right now I'm considering
switching to all canon or nikon though to get in line for it though.  That's
gonna be tough though as selling my pentax equipment is going to be almost
like selling part of myself.  Lots of memories there!

> -- 4) To put the numbers in perspective, how many list members
> -- are there.
> --
> -- shel
> --

Well I'm here :)

Dave




RE: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-30 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Shel,

I woudl think that I am a 3a.  I use the *ist D extensively but have used my
LXen since getting it.

I still plan on shooting my 35mm and my medium format along with the DLSR
and Optio S.  Everything has its place.

My international travel will see me taking film and not being concerned with
portable computing or archiving.  Too much time spent on this that could be
spent on other things...

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-- -Original Message-
-- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 1:00 PM
--
-- With fond memories of surveys past :
--
--
-- 1) How many have totally given up shooting film and have moved
-- completely to digital (That means no film and film cameras in your
-- equipment cabinet)?
--
-- 2) How many are in the process of doing so (like Bruce, who
-- is actually
-- selling equipment) as opposed to "thinking about it," which doesn't
-- count in this survey.
--
-- 3) How many have made the switch to digital, but keep a film camera
-- around for one reason or another, although you do not use,
-- and have not
-- used, the film camera since acquiring your digital camera?
--
-- 4) To put the numbers in perspective, how many list members
-- are there.
--
-- shel
--



Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-30 Thread Paul Eriksson
3) How many have made the switch to digital, but keep a film camera
around for one reason or another, although you do not use, and have not
used, the film camera since acquiring your digital camera?
I still have my ZX-L, but will be selling it and acople of redundant lenses 
when I'm sure that I won't use film again.

Paul

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Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-30 Thread John Dallman
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(Shel Belinkoff) wrote:

> With fond memories of surveys past :

#3, although I haven't had digital for long, and still have all my film 
equipment. 

--- 
John Dallman [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-30 Thread Kenneth Waller
1) Not yet.
2) Not yet
3) In a very small way - just picked up an Optio S. Still have all the 35mm
SLR Pentax cameras/lenses I've ever used - Spotmatic, MX, ESII, SF1, PZ1,
PZ1P & MZ-S, 17-28mm through 600mm.

Answer to un asked question "What would get you to switch?" -- A 12 MP
Pentax Digital slr for under $1500.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message -
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Silly Digital Survey

> 1) How many have totally given up shooting film and have moved
> completely to digital (That means no film and film cameras in your
> equipment cabinet)?
>
> 2) How many are in the process of doing so (like Bruce, who is actually
> selling equipment) as opposed to "thinking about it," which doesn't
> count in this survey.
>
> 3) How many have made the switch to digital, but keep a film camera
> around for one reason or another, although you do not use, and have not
> used, the film camera since acquiring your digital camera?
>
> 4) To put the numbers in perspective, how many list members are there.
>
> shel
>
>



Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-30 Thread Otis Wright
Somewhere around 3.

Use digital prosumer P&S for 95 % of pics.  Use film for wide angle, 
back up,  special set ups, long shots, and to provide family with an odd 
set of prints now and then.  

Impact of going digital so far.  Killed move to K mount.  Howver, did 
purchased several additional SMCT lenses, another Spotmatic F, and 
another ESII to secure the screwmount base.  Don't see further 
investment in for now.

Near term will add  following digital equipment: a small  (physica size) 
P&S and a DSLR.  P&S as soon as I can locate and checkout.   DSLR  when 
have time to to the research to get comfortable with a configuraton of 
equipment that will meet my needs in the area of flash synch, low light 
AF, and wide angle. 

Otis Wright

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

With fond memories of surveys past :

1) How many have totally given up shooting film and have moved
completely to digital (That means no film and film cameras in your
equipment cabinet)?
2) How many are in the process of doing so (like Bruce, who is actually
selling equipment) as opposed to "thinking about it," which doesn't
count in this survey.
3) How many have made the switch to digital, but keep a film camera
around for one reason or another, although you do not use, and have not
used, the film camera since acquiring your digital camera?
4) To put the numbers in perspective, how many list members are there.

shel

 





Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-30 Thread brooksdj
> With fond memories of surveys past :
> 
> 
> 1) How many have totally given up shooting film and have moved
> completely to digital (That means no film and film cameras in your
> equipment cabinet)?

Nope,still have K1000,SP500,SF-1,PZ-1,Spotmatic 1000,6X7,plus various flashes lenses 
etc.
> 
> 2) How many are in the process of doing so (like Bruce, who is actually
> selling equipment) as opposed to "thinking about it," which doesn't
> count in this survey.

I have had the D1 for 2 1/2 years,still plan to keep film.I plan to do film B&W until
digital can do a 
better job,then ponder move # 42 in life.If i had not already invested heavely in Nikon
equipment,i 
would be buying the starkist now.
> 
> 3) How many have made the switch to digital, but keep a film camera
> around for one reason or another, although you do not use, and have not
> used, the film camera since acquiring your digital camera?

Well i still use the film cameras 75-80% of the time.I use the D1 for money making 
venues
only.I would 
have loved to aquire a Pentax digital but Nikon and Canon already had market share,AND 
PRODUCT,out so when push came to shove,Nikon won me.Not a fan of big white plastic 
lenses
Canon 
has.Would make me look like a "pro" then.
Not to say i will never buy the starkist.I see a lot who have bought are experiencing 
the
same 
production pains as the D1 series first attempt.Firmware improvements will help.
> 
> 4) To put the numbers in perspective, how many list members are there.

Me and a bunch of others.:-)


Dave
> 
> shel
> 






Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-30 Thread Familie Scheffler
>2) How many are in the process of doing so (like Bruce, who is actually
>selling equipment) as opposed to "thinking about it," which doesn't
>count in this survey.

Hmm, I think that I belong to the second group because I am looking for
getting more compatible to the *ist-D with my recent
buy-and-sell-transactions. For example I caught a A-100/4.0 macro though it
was very expensive compared to the price of the M-version.
I hope that the price of the *ist-D will decrease next year. Wait and see.

Best regards
Bernd




Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-30 Thread Cotty
On 29/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>> 4) acording to Doug, 600+
>
>Didn't keep the post but that was just registered users with normal
>posting/receiving rights.  I think there were up to another 200 with
>posting rights but no direct mails, plus all the readers/lurkers on the
>archives.  A round 1000 would not be a figure that a statistician could
>argue with.

Not to mention all the multiple personalities ;-)




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-29 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
Holy Mackeral, Wendy! Quite a collection you have there! What a diehard
Pentax
fan you are! Great to see another girl as passionate about her "love" as
moi!

tan.x.

" I also still own 3 MXes, an LX, an MZ-S and a 67. I'm not about to
part
 with any of them. If I did, it would be the LX and 67. I love me MXes.





Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-29 Thread wendy beard
> -Original Message-
> From: Shel Belinkoff
>
> With fond memories of surveys past :
>
>
> 1) How many have totally given up shooting film and have moved
> completely to digital (That means no film and film cameras in your
> equipment cabinet)?
>
> 2) How many are in the process of doing so (like Bruce, who
> is actually
> selling equipment) as opposed to "thinking about it," which doesn't
> count in this survey.
>
> 3) How many have made the switch to digital, but keep a film camera
> around for one reason or another, although you do not use,
> and have not
> used, the film camera since acquiring your digital camera?
>
> 4) To put the numbers in perspective, how many list members
> are there.
>
> shel
Sort of 3), but I have used my film cameras since acquiring the digital camera.
When I went out taking pictures of the pretty autumn leaves I took along 
the 10D and the MZ-S loaded with Velvia. Haven't used the film cameras much 
at all since June.
I also still own 3 MXes, an LX, an MZ-S and a 67. I'm not about to part 
with any of them. If I did, it would be the LX and 67. I love me MXes.

Wendy

Wendy Beard,
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.beard-redfern.com



Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-29 Thread Ryan Charron
> 3) How many have made the switch to digital, but
keep a film camera
> around for one reason or another, although you do
not use, 
> and have not
> used, the film camera since acquiring your digital
camera?
> 

Hey That's Me !!!

Since I got my *ist D, I haven't used my MZ-S, PZ-1p
or my old Super Program. (that I keep for sentimental
reasons since it was my first camera)
I have some film in the fridge, but I it's just
sitting there for now.

Sincerely,
Ryan Charron

PS : Not a silly question after all

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Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
Still shooting film. Can't get enough resolution for my needs in Pentax 
digital. Waiting for 10 megapixels, but will probably shoot some film 
forever. Can't see giving up my Leicas or my LX.
Paul
On Saturday, November 29, 2003, at 12:59 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

With fond memories of surveys past :

1) How many have totally given up shooting film and have moved
completely to digital (That means no film and film cameras in your
equipment cabinet)?
2) How many are in the process of doing so (like Bruce, who is actually
selling equipment) as opposed to "thinking about it," which doesn't
count in this survey.
3) How many have made the switch to digital, but keep a film camera
around for one reason or another, although you do not use, and have not
used, the film camera since acquiring your digital camera?
4) To put the numbers in perspective, how many list members are there.

shel




RE: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-29 Thread tom
I'm #3.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 1:00 PM
> To: PDML
> Subject: Silly Digital Survey
> 
> 
> With fond memories of surveys past :
> 
> 
> 1) How many have totally given up shooting film and have moved
> completely to digital (That means no film and film cameras in your
> equipment cabinet)?
> 
> 2) How many are in the process of doing so (like Bruce, who 
> is actually
> selling equipment) as opposed to "thinking about it," which doesn't
> count in this survey.
> 
> 3) How many have made the switch to digital, but keep a film camera
> around for one reason or another, although you do not use, 
> and have not
> used, the film camera since acquiring your digital camera?
> 
> 4) To put the numbers in perspective, how many list members 
> are there.
> 
> shel
> 
> 
> 



Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-29 Thread Christian Skofteland
- Original Message - 
From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> With fond memories of surveys past :
> 
> 
> 1) How many have totally given up shooting film and have moved
> completely to digital (That means no film and film cameras in your
> equipment cabinet)?

That would be me!

Christian



Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-29 Thread alex wetmore
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Leon Altoff wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:59:58 -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> >1) How many have totally given up shooting film and have moved
> >completely to digital (That means no film and film cameras in your
> >equipment cabinet)?
>
> I have 4 camera bodies.  *istD, 2 x MZ-S and an MX which was my first
> SLR and I keep for sentimental reasons and for long exposures.  So no I
> haven't.

I'm similar.  *ist D, MZ-5n, MX, and a few film P&S cameras.  Those are
going to be sold (Yashica T-4 Super and Ricoh GR-1 if anyone wants to
make an offer before they hit eBay).  The MX won't be sold.  I'd sell
the ZX-5n, but the resale isn't very high on them and it is nice to
have a backup body.

I'd like to get back into B&W at some point, and digital still isn't
what I want for B&W.

> >2) How many are in the process of doing so (like Bruce, who is actually
> >selling equipment) as opposed to "thinking about it," which doesn't
> >count in this survey.
>
> I'm not even thinking about it with the current level of digital
> technology.  When we hit 24 megapixels with 3 colours per pixel, I will
> start thinking about it.

If I could get a *ist D with no color filter I'd sell off the rest of
my film equipment.

> >3) How many have made the switch to digital, but keep a film camera
> >around for one reason or another, although you do not use, and have not
> >used, the film camera since acquiring your digital camera?
>
> I have used and continue to use the my film cameras.  They are
> different tools for different jobs.

I haven't used a film camera in about 3 years (when I bought my Sony
DSC-F707).

alex



RE: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-29 Thread Len Paris
There are folks that don't want digital photos.  I shoot film for them.
They are getting fewer rapidly.  I try to shoot digital as much as
possible.  I keep my PZ-1p for the folks that want me to use film.  I
also have a few older film bodies that I have no intention of selling,
whether I ever use them again or not.  They are just old friends,  I'm
going to have a couple of them serviced soon, just to keep them in good
shape.

Len
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Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-29 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Shel,

1)  Still a film diehard.  Digital?  We don't need no stinking digital!

2)  I don't see myself doing digital until I absolutely have to.  Like when 
I can't get film any more.  And by film I mean (as many of you know) HP5+ or 
Tri-X (I'd go T-Max or Delta if I couldn't get the previous two).  My needs 
are simple.  As I said recently, film continues to do everything that I ask 
or need in a photographic sense, and the cost of going digital for me would 
be prohibitive, as I'd need to upgrade computers and other peripherals along 
with buying a digital cam.

3) N/A

4)  Apparently many more than I thought!  

cheers,
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From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: PDML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Silly Digital Survey
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:59:58 -0800
With fond memories of surveys past :


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Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-29 Thread Herb Chong
this fits me closest. i have some film left to polish off, but after that i
am not sure which film i will end up with. i normally shoot Provia 100F with
Velvia 50 sometimes. i used to use Provia 400F for my long lens shots
because i needed the speed for the higher shutter speeds. now, if i am going
to shoot 400, i'm giving up enough anyway that i might as well just use the
*istD at 800 and give up a little less. i expect to shoot some Provia 100F
for quite a while and Velvia when i think i will get results that i will
blow up a lot more than 12x18.

Herb
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From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 12:59 PM
Subject: Silly Digital Survey


> 3) How many have made the switch to digital, but keep a film camera
> around for one reason or another, although you do not use, and have not
> used, the film camera since acquiring your digital camera?




Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-29 Thread David S.


Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
> With fond memories of surveys past :
> 
> 1) How many have totally given up shooting film and have moved
> completely to digital (That means no film and film cameras in your
> equipment cabinet)?

Still film only.

> 
> 2) How many are in the process of doing so (like Bruce, who is actually
> selling equipment) as opposed to "thinking about it," which doesn't
> count in this survey.

"thinking about it", really waiting for resolution of digital dodies
goes up & prices come down.

> 
> 3) How many have made the switch to digital, but keep a film camera
> around for one reason or another, although you do not use, and have not
> used, the film camera since acquiring your digital camera?

Doesn't apply to me yet but probally will use film and digital together
for a number of years

> 
> 4) To put the numbers in perspective, how many list members are there.
> 
> shel

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Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-29 Thread John Francis

5) None of the above.

I've had a digital camera for over 3 years, but I still use film.

With a *ist-D in the camera case I expect the ratio to shift more
to digital, but I'll still have a film body with me.  Not just as
a backup, and not just for the wide-angle shots; I sometimes take
the identical shot with film and digital; digital for immediacy,
and film in case I want more resolution for a large print.



Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-29 Thread Cotty
On 29/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

> 0)  How many own a decent digital (3-4 megs), but haven't given up shooting 
>film.  We just use the digital for snaps...

Snaps? *Snaps*? Dear boy, I paint with light!




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Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-29 Thread Cotty
On 29/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>1) How many have totally given up shooting film and have moved
>completely to digital (That means no film and film cameras in your
>equipment cabinet)?

Nearly.

>
>2) How many are in the process of doing so (like Bruce, who is actually
>selling equipment) as opposed to "thinking about it," which doesn't
>count in this survey.

See next question.

>
>3) How many have made the switch to digital, but keep a film camera
>around for one reason or another, although you do not use, and have not
>used, the film camera since acquiring your digital camera?

Yep, that's me.  I have an MX , winder and lens that will be buried with
me. It sits on the shelf a monument to my early photographic years.
Haven't used it since the digi came along. In fact haven't shot any film
since the digi came along - didn't even finish the roll in the CL before
I sold it.

>
>4) To put the numbers in perspective, how many list members are there.

Me + you + everyone else on the list = the total.




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Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-29 Thread Bill Owens


> With fond memories of surveys past :
> 
> 
> 1) How many have totally given up shooting film and have moved
> completely to digital (That means no film and film cameras in your
> equipment cabinet)?
> 
> 2) How many are in the process of doing so (like Bruce, who is actually
> selling equipment) as opposed to "thinking about it," which doesn't
> count in this survey.
> 
> 3) How many have made the switch to digital, but keep a film camera
> around for one reason or another, although you do not use, and have not
> used, the film camera since acquiring your digital camera?

That's me.
 
> 4) To put the numbers in perspective, how many list members are there.

~600




Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-29 Thread Fred
> With fond memories of surveys past :

I guess it ~is~ titled a "digital survey"...

> 1)  [snipped]

> 2)  [snipped]

> 3)  [snipped]

> 4)  To put the numbers in perspective, how many list members are
> there.

5) Or, how many have not not made any such switch at all?

Fred, K1FW




Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-29 Thread Rfsindg
Shel,

How about one more category...

 0)  How many own a decent digital (3-4 megs), but haven't given up shooting 
film.  We just use the digital for snaps...

Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> 1) How many have totally given up shooting film and have moved
>  completely to digital (That means no film and film cameras in your
>  equipment cabinet)?
>  
>  2) How many are in the process of doing so (like Bruce, who is actually
>  selling equipment) as opposed to "thinking about it," which doesn't
>  count in this survey.
>  
>  3) How many have made the switch to digital, but keep a film camera
>  around for one reason or another, although you do not use, and have not
>  used, the film camera since acquiring your digital camera?
>  
>  4) To put the numbers in perspective, how many list members are there.



Re: Silly Digital Survey

2003-11-29 Thread Leon Altoff
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 09:59:58 -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

>1) How many have totally given up shooting film and have moved
>completely to digital (That means no film and film cameras in your
>equipment cabinet)?

I have 4 camera bodies.  *istD, 2 x MZ-S and an MX which was my first
SLR and I keep for sentimental reasons and for long exposures.  So no I
haven't.

>2) How many are in the process of doing so (like Bruce, who is actually
>selling equipment) as opposed to "thinking about it," which doesn't
>count in this survey.

I'm not even thinking about it with the current level of digital
technology.  When we hit 24 megapixels with 3 colours per pixel, I will
start thinking about it.  I am also going to keep shooting Kodachrome
until I can no longer get it.  I do not think I will be buying another
film body.

>3) How many have made the switch to digital, but keep a film camera
>around for one reason or another, although you do not use, and have not
>used, the film camera since acquiring your digital camera?

I have used and continue to use the my film cameras.  They are
different tools for different jobs.

>4) To put the numbers in perspective, how many list members are there.

Lots.  Most of them are fairly quiet though.


 Leon

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