Re: What is Pentax equipment?
William Robb wrote: I want to discourage what I see as creeping horseshit from gaining a foothold in the PUG. Me too, I hate the stuff. Tom C. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: What is Pentax equipment?
> Incidentally I have a Vivitar Series 1 105mm Macro > that focuses to 1:1. It is far superior to Pentax > and Nikon glass in my humble opinion. Christian, My experience is that the Macro may account for a good part of the distinction. The Pentax A100/2.8 Macro is a cut above most other Pentax glass. Regards, Bob S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What is Pentax equipment?
I shouldn't think so. Requiring all items, including your strap and your belt buckle to be Pentax is a bit foolish. No one has ever complained over occasional third party glass in the open galleries. I've never heard anyone be so purist as to insist on yer flash be Pentax. Regards, Bob... From: "Skofteland, Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'm new to Pentax bodies having used crappy Ricoh's until I bought an LX > recently. Therefore I have non-Pentax lenses. Yes, I plan to buy Pentax > lenses as soon as the budget allows but in the meantime I will get by with > my off-brand lenses. Incidentally I have a Vivitar Series 1 105mm Macro > that focuses to 1:1. It is far superior to Pentax and Nikon glass in my > humble opinion. Does this mean that I will be excluded from the PUG? One > of my reasons for joining this list was the PUG. > > From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > What is "Pentax equipment"? > > It has to say "Pentax" on both camera and lenses? > > No Tokinas, Tamrons or Sigmas etc. lenses on Pentax bodies? > > No Pentax lenses on Ricoh or Chinon cameras? > > Well Lasse, it is the PENTAX users gallery after all. Not being > a hard nosed person myself, I would say that as long as the > camera body and the lens used is Pentax brand, then the > submission will be published. > I will certainly consider objections to this criteria. For > example, it may be desirable to allow non Pentax brand lenses in > the open galleries, as long as the body is Pentax. > This really is mostly a non issue, but if you look at this > months gallery, you will note that two of the submissions are > from Canon and Nikon users respectively. While it is nice that > they want to be seen in our forum, I want to discourage what I > see as creeping horseshit from gaining a foothold in the PUG. > As always, the gallery maintainer is the final arbiter of what > will or will not be published in the PUG, but I will be guided > by the desires of the people for whom the gallery is published > for, which is the members of the PDML. > > I invite discussion on this subject. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: What is Pentax equipment?
I'm new to Pentax bodies having used crappy Ricoh's until I bought an LX recently. Therefore I have non-Pentax lenses. Yes, I plan to buy Pentax lenses as soon as the budget allows but in the meantime I will get by with my off-brand lenses. Incidentally I have a Vivitar Series 1 105mm Macro that focuses to 1:1. It is far superior to Pentax and Nikon glass in my humble opinion. Does this mean that I will be excluded from the PUG? One of my reasons for joining this list was the PUG. Christian Skofteland System Administrator ServerVault Inc. "Securing the Internet" (703)373-5971 (Direct) (703)333-5900 (Main) [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 5:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What is Pentax equipment? - Original Message - From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:17 PM Subject: What is Pentax equipment? (Was: More Yipping..." > What is "Pentax equipment"? > It has to say "Pentax" on both camera and lenses? > No Tokinas, Tamrons or Sigmas etc. lenses on Pentax bodies? > No Pentax lenses on Ricoh or Chinon cameras? Well Lasse, it is the PENTAX users gallery after all. Not being a hard nosed person myself, I would say that as long as the camera body and the lens used is Pentax brand, then the submission will be published. I will certainly consider objections to this criteria. For example, it may be desirable to allow non Pentax brand lenses in the open galleries, as long as the body is Pentax. This really is mostly a non issue, but if you look at this months gallery, you will note that two of the submissions are from Canon and Nikon users respectively. While it is nice that they want to be seen in our forum, I want to discourage what I see as creeping horseshit from gaining a foothold in the PUG. As always, the gallery maintainer is the final arbiter of what will or will not be published in the PUG, but I will be guided by the desires of the people for whom the gallery is published for, which is the members of the PDML. I invite discussion on this subject. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What is Pentax equipment?
I have a photo that I think should be used as an example of minimum requirements for submission to the PUG. It is a shot of Doug Brewer (the list maintainer) taking a shot of me with his MZ-S and a 31 mm Limited lens. It was taken with my ME Super and his 77 mm Limited. I think that should be minimum requirements for the PUG. Photos of Pentax gear being used by a Pentax Mailing List member taken with Pentax gear. Is that Pentax enough, or do we need more restrictions? Note: for the humor impaired, the above is intended sardonically. --graywolf -- Tom "Graywolf" Rittenhouse Graywolf Photo, Charlotte, NC, USA -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: What is Pentax equipment?
Paul M. Provencher wrote: "That's the point isn't it? "P"entax "U"sers "G"allery (PUG) ppro" So Paul, When I'm out passing film back and forth in my "new" MZ-5n while my Kalimar zoom is mounted (you don't think I'd have a Pentax lens if I had some money?), I'm not a Pentax user but If I mount my Pentax lens I am? IMO, this makes no sense. If you are using anything Pentax, you are a Pentax user. Perhaps I should subscribe to the "Pentax Bodied But Sometimes Other Manufacturer's Lenses" Mailing list The rule works for me in it's currently posted form: 9. Submissions must have been made using Pentax P&S, Digital, 6x7, 645, K-Mount or M-42 screw mount camera equipment. Third party equipment is welcome if it is Pentax compatible, and either the body or lens is Asahi/Pentax Cory Waters - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What is Pentax equipment?
My 2 cents worth, adjusted for inflation... Pentax bodies should be required, but for numerous reasons brought up previously, K-mount or M42 screwmount lenses of any brand should be accepted. - Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 6:53 PM Subject: Re: What is Pentax equipment? > I personally would look toward Pentax bodies with any lens. It is very > common practice for stores to sell a kit that contains a third party lens. > Or in the case where a third party lens is chosen due to cost or > availability. I think that if you buy the Pentax body, you are pretty much > a Pentax user. > > Bruce Dayton > Sacramento, CA > > > - Original Message - > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 2:25 PM > Subject: Re: What is Pentax equipment? > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:17 PM > > Subject: What is Pentax equipment? (Was: More Yipping..." > > > > > > > > > What is "Pentax equipment"? > > > It has to say "Pentax" on both camera and lenses? > > > No Tokinas, Tamrons or Sigmas etc. lenses on Pentax bodies? > > > No Pentax lenses on Ricoh or Chinon cameras? > > > > Well Lasse, it is the PENTAX users gallery after all. Not being > > a hard nosed person myself, I would say that as long as the > > camera body and the lens used is Pentax brand, then the > > submission will be published. > > I will certainly consider objections to this criteria. For > > example, it may be desirable to allow non Pentax brand lenses in > > the open galleries, as long as the body is Pentax. > > This really is mostly a non issue, but if you look at this > > months gallery, you will note that two of the submissions are > > from Canon and Nikon users respectively. While it is nice that > > they want to be seen in our forum, I want to discourage what I > > see as creeping horseshit from gaining a foothold in the PUG. > > As always, the gallery maintainer is the final arbiter of what > > will or will not be published in the PUG, but I will be guided > > by the desires of the people for whom the gallery is published > > for, which is the members of the PDML. > > > > I invite discussion on this subject. > > > > William Robb > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What is Pentax equipment?
From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Bob B. wrote: > > Look. No one is being pissy here until you jumped in with this. No one is > > jumping on anyone else for previous submissions. No on is dumping on anyone > > who has followed the rules. > > Obviously you do not know what you have been saying. Yes. I do. > According to the submission guidelines for open months, submissions shot with non Pentax equipment were clearly welcome. Five participants in the September gallery submitted pictures shot with non Pentax equipment. Yes. Entirely acceptable. Those were the rules. They did nothing wrong. > This is what you said: > "If yer going to be submitting to the gallery, why on earth would ya submit photo's taken with other brand equipment? The rules notwithstanding... Why? That is, why would we want it that way? > Oh. yeah. I forgot. Ego. Look, there's lots o' places where you can submit yer > photos that are not brand related. Photo Critique is one. Satisfy your personal > egos there. Give us a link and we'll all go "h" and "Aaaah". " > > [snip] > > Now, there is no reason for anyone here to apologize for stating their > > opinions concerning their desires for the composition of the PUG. You > > believe you (or someone else ) were insulted. Why? Your ego? > No, because you singled out the non Pentax shooting participants of the gallery Yes, so? Being a non Pentax shooter is not a race, ethnic origin, religion, sex, sexual preference or the like. It's a *choice*. I was just singled out (personally, not generally) for saying what I believe. So what? > and sarcastically implied that they somehow were showing off or satisfying their egos, as opposed > to the Pentax shooters. > That's what I found insulting. Karlsson! I was not being sarcastic, and it's somwhat arrogant to assume that what you inferred is what I implied. I said what I believe is a simple fact of life. Among other things, we are all satisfying our egos to some extent all the time. Just like you and me, here in this exchange wherein you have to be right and I have to be evil, or I have to be right and you have to be ... whatever. That you found my being politically incorrect and actually saying that we have ego's and that they affect us all to be insulting to you is your problem. It's a reaction you chose concerning a fact of life - spoken. (You did note that I included myself in that post, didn't you?) > > I practice what I preach. I put a photo on Photo Critique a few years back, > > told the PDML, and received a few suggestions and some "h's" and > > "Aaaah's". > > > > Sit back, have a consultation with the Reverend Jack Daniel's, and let folks > > have and state their opinions about the PUG. > > You continue to do the same, and let me state my opinion about bulls*t posted to the list. Cool. Now exactly why is it, really, that has you feeling that you need to beat up on me personally? What the hell is this *really* about. Ok. For the sake of harmony, and to let you stay exactly even, why don't you put up one more caustic accusation. Make it good. I'll not reply. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What is Pentax equipment?
Thank you Kevin, I needed that!!! Karen On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 21:35:40 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, my name is Kevin Thornsberry and I submitted a picture to the > September PUG with a Sigma lens. > > whew . . .I feel better. > > For October I had planned to submit a picture taken with my ZX-5n and my > Pentax FA 28-200, but also with a cheap old Soligor 2x converter I needed > to get the shot. I've since replaced the Soligar 2X with Pentax 1.4x and 2x > converters. Please advise. Lasse wrote: > Maybe because the submission > guidelines says that during open months >pictures shot with non Pentax > equipment are welcome... > > Well, that's what I thought. I wasn't trying to break the PUG rules. The > fact is, I own two non-Pentax branded lenses (and one is in my "to be sold" > category). The other is my Sigma 20/1.8 Ex. Now, I have no problem living > within the rules. I'm not going to lie about what I use so if you say that > I can't submit pictures with my Sigman 20 then I'll probably just sit some > months out since I'm really enjoying using it but for me, when I'm walking > around with my Pentax/Sigma combo I'm not a Sigma shooter. I'm a Pentax > shooter. Sigma has produced an accessory that permits me to get more > enjoyment out of my Pentax equipment. Pentax doesn't really have a lens I > consider equivalent. Consequently, if you take a vote, I'd vote for > allowing any pictures with some component being Pentax, generally body or > lens. However, I reserve some respect for the rebels in this world who will > put a Pentax filter (I understand that Pentax SMC filters are of very high > quality) on the front of ! a Fijayamigushi system they bought on the home > shopping network for $19.99 just to make a statement. If they do, the PDML > will deliver the appropriate "Boos" and "Hisses". In the mean time I have a > few more confessions to make + I replaced the Pentax neck strap on my Zx-5n > with one by Op-Tech. + I once considered buying an Olympus right angle > finder because I heard they fit some Pentax bodies. + I have numerous > Pentax lenses purchased from KEH that were later fitted with "no name" lens > caps. + I recently posted a message to the PDML which contained some > remarks in favor of digital photography. + I filter most threads about > Spotmatics and LXs. + I once admired a Nikon F5 in a store. I looked really > big and it was all black. + I occaisionally post messages in rich-text > format. (Purely by accident, I promise) + I removed a tag from my mattress > which clearly stated, "Do no remove under penalty of law." + I drink > directly from the milk jug. + I swim within a hour of eating. + I think > "Seinfeld" was a dumb show. + I was a little insulted by Bob Blakely's > remarks. + I used to think Disco was cool. > > Kevin Thornsberry > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What is Pentax equipment?
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In a message dated 8/31/01 4:45:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << What is Pentax equipment? > It's not about the lens. It's really not even about the camera. It's about > the picture. How you took it, the light, the exposure I would rather > know why the photographer took the picture than if he used a Pentax 24mm or a > Kiron 24mm. It's all about the vision photographers have who use Pentax > equipment and follow this thread. One part of the camera lens combo needs to > be pentax, not both. Maybe. Maybe not. Every year in the US there is a rifle match known as the John C. Garand Match. Only specific US military rifles are allowed. The point is not for everyone to be on an equal footing as evidenced by the fact that only "...any "as-issued" U. S. service rifle including the M1 Garand, M1903 Springfield, M1917 Enfield, M1941 Johnson or .30 Cal. M1 Carbine." may be used. These rifles have *significantly* different capabilities. The shooters shoot. Scores are kept and a prize is awarded. One might assume that the competition is about the marksman, his ability to hold tight groups and score high. It's not. The match is about "...those who served" in our nation 's Armed Services and who carried the Garand rifle in the defense of our country." I know that analogy isn't perfect. No analogy is, else it would be the thing itself. The point is, folks do their best, other folks comment. Some look at the gallery to enjoy the accomplishments of others, some perhaps to learn something. Still, the point of the gallery is not us, or even our photos. The point is Pentax. That's why it's called The Pentax Users Gallery". It's amazing to me that folks would think that such a gallery would be about us or our photos. Your desires are not without merit. If the membership wants a gallery dedicated to themselves and not dedicated to Pentax (use any mix of equipment), why don't one of you start a "Pentax Discussion List Members Photo Gallery"? Get space on a server, and do the work to keep it up yourself. I'm sure Wheatfield Willie will be glad to share the knowledge he's gained working on the PUG. I have a few shots out of my Graphic I'd like to post there. That's my opinion. Regards, Bob... - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: What is Pentax equipment?
Paul M. Provencher writes: > Pentax only (body and lens must both come from Asahi Optical Company) > > That's the point isn't it? "P"entax "U"sers "G"allery (PUG) An ultra-literal interpretation would go something like: "I'm a Pentax user therefore I can submit anything I took to PUG, regardless of the gear I used for that shot". :) Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ "Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets?" -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What is Pentax equipment?
Bob B. wrote: > Look. No one is being pissy here until you jumped in with this. No one is > jumping on anyone else for previous submissions. No on is dumping on anyone > who has followed the rules. Obviously you do not know what you have been saying. According to the submission guidelines for open months, submissions shot with non Pentax equipment were clearly welcome. Five participants in the September gallery submitted pictures shot with non Pentax equipment. This is what you said: "If yer going to be submitting to the gallery, why on earth would ya submit photo's taken with other brand equipment? Oh. yeah. I forgot. Ego. Look, there's lots o' places where you can submit yer photos that are not brand related. Photo Critique is one. Satisfy your personal egos there. Give us a link and we'll all go "h" and "Aaaah". " [snip] > Now, there is no reason for anyone here to apologize for stating their > opinions concerning their desires for the composition of the PUG. You > believe you (or someone else ) were insulted. Why? Your ego? No, because you singled out the non Pentax shooting participants of the gallery and sarcastically implied that they somehow were showing off or satisfying their egos, as opposed to the Pentax shooters. That's what I found insulting. > I practice what I preach. I put a photo on Photo Critique a few years back, > told the PDML, and received a few suggestions and some "h's" and > "Aaaah's". > > Sit back, have a consultation with the Reverend Jack Daniel's, and let folks > have and state their opinions about the PUG. You continue to do the same, and let me state my opinion about bulls*t posted to the list. Lasse > Regards, > Bob... > > From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Bob B. wrote: > > > I agree with you, Will. If yer going to be submitting to the gallery, > why on > > > earth would ya submit photo's taken with other brand equipment? > > > > Maybe because the submission guidelines says that during open months > pictures shot with non Pentax equipment are welcome... > > > > >Oh. yeah. I > > > forgot. Ego. Look, there's lots o' places where you can submit yer > photos > > > that are not brand related. Photo Critique is one. Satisfy your personal > > > egos there. Give us a link and we'll all go "h" and "Aaaah". Part of > the > > > idea of the gallery is personal demonstrations and expressions of why we > > > like (and chose) Pentax! > > > > You are being silly and insulting. > > In the September gallery there are five submitters, who, in good faith, > have submitted pictures shot with non Pentax equipment, exactly in > accordance with guidlines provided by ourselves (essentially). > > I think you (and for that matter Bill R. too, for referring to their > submissions as "creeping horseshit") owe them all an apology. > > They are not in the least deserving to be reproached by you or anyone > else. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What is Pentax equipment?
In a message dated 8/31/01 4:45:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << What is Pentax equipment? It's not about the lens. It's really not even about the camera. It's about the picture. How you took it, the light, the exposure I would rather know why the photographer took the picture than if he used a Pentax 24mm or a Kiron 24mm. It's all about the vision photographers have who use Pentax equipment and follow this thread. One part of the camera lens combo needs to be pentax, not both. Vic - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Joe: You're kidding right? I'm sure the impostors will be easily found out given the glaringly obvious differences between photographs taken using Pentax gear versus other inferior equipment - -joe - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: What is Pentax equipment?
FWIW since I have not had time to contribute to PUG in recent months... Pentax only (body and lens must both come from Asahi Optical Company) That's the point isn't it? "P"entax "U"sers "G"allery (PUG) ppro > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William Robb > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 5:26 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: What is Pentax equipment? > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:17 PM > Subject: What is Pentax equipment? (Was: More Yipping..." > > > > > What is "Pentax equipment"? > > It has to say "Pentax" on both camera and lenses? > > No Tokinas, Tamrons or Sigmas etc. lenses on Pentax bodies? > > No Pentax lenses on Ricoh or Chinon cameras? > > Well Lasse, it is the PENTAX users gallery after all. Not being > a hard nosed person myself, I would say that as long as the > camera body and the lens used is Pentax brand, then the > submission will be published. > I will certainly consider objections to this criteria. For > example, it may be desirable to allow non Pentax brand lenses in > the open galleries, as long as the body is Pentax. > This really is mostly a non issue, but if you look at this > months gallery, you will note that two of the submissions are > from Canon and Nikon users respectively. While it is nice that > they want to be seen in our forum, I want to discourage what I > see as creeping horseshit from gaining a foothold in the PUG. > As always, the gallery maintainer is the final arbiter of what > will or will not be published in the PUG, but I will be guided > by the desires of the people for whom the gallery is published > for, which is the members of the PDML. > > I invite discussion on this subject. > > William Robb > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What is Pentax equipment?
I have a silly question. If the guidelines, in place for at least a couple of years, stated that Themed submissions required Pentax lens or body and Open could be any K or M42, why is there even a problem? A submission that didn't meet the existing guidelines should have been politely refused and everyone could get on with their lives. No offence to anyone (since I'm not sure who is doing the gallery) but it sounds like a screw-up at the Gallery end and doesn't require a major arguement about what is/isn't Pentax equipment. Just so people know, I have 2 Pentax bodies, 2 other K-mount bodies, 6 M42 bodies (no Pentax) and three medium format bodies. I have lenses that are Pentax, Vivitar and many other brands. I can meet whatever guidelines are set if I choose to submit anything again. But why change the rules? JeffW. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What is Pentax equipment?
Again, I would opt to allow third party lenses on Pentax bodies or Pentax lenses on other bodies. I have six Pentax bodies and twenty Pentax lenses, but one of my best lenses is a Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5. I'm a Pentax shooter through and through, but I'd like to be able to use this lens for PUG submissions. (As I have in the past.) I'll go with whatever the final decision mandates, but I'd like to see PUG keep the door open for third party lenses and Pentax lenses with other bodies. Paul Stenquist William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:17 PM > Subject: What is Pentax equipment? (Was: More Yipping..." > > > What is "Pentax equipment"? > > It has to say "Pentax" on both camera and lenses? > > No Tokinas, Tamrons or Sigmas etc. lenses on Pentax bodies? > > No Pentax lenses on Ricoh or Chinon cameras? > > Well Lasse, it is the PENTAX users gallery after all. Not being > a hard nosed person myself, I would say that as long as the > camera body and the lens used is Pentax brand, then the > submission will be published. > I will certainly consider objections to this criteria. For > example, it may be desirable to allow non Pentax brand lenses in > the open galleries, as long as the body is Pentax. > This really is mostly a non issue, but if you look at this > months gallery, you will note that two of the submissions are > from Canon and Nikon users respectively. While it is nice that > they want to be seen in our forum, I want to discourage what I > see as creeping horseshit from gaining a foothold in the PUG. > As always, the gallery maintainer is the final arbiter of what > will or will not be published in the PUG, but I will be guided > by the desires of the people for whom the gallery is published > for, which is the members of the PDML. > > I invite discussion on this subject. > > William Robb > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What is Pentax equipment?
Tryb walking into a shop in Australia and purchasing a Pentax Body with a Pentax lense. 95%+ pentax slr Bodies come with Sigma lenses. - Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 11:53 AM Subject: Re: What is Pentax equipment? > I personally would look toward Pentax bodies with any lens. It is very > common practice for stores to sell a kit that contains a third party lens. > Or in the case where a third party lens is chosen due to cost or > availability. I think that if you buy the Pentax body, you are pretty much > a Pentax user. > > Bruce Dayton > Sacramento, CA > > > - Original Message - > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 2:25 PM > Subject: Re: What is Pentax equipment? > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:17 PM > > Subject: What is Pentax equipment? (Was: More Yipping..." > > > > > > > > > What is "Pentax equipment"? > > > It has to say "Pentax" on both camera and lenses? > > > No Tokinas, Tamrons or Sigmas etc. lenses on Pentax bodies? > > > No Pentax lenses on Ricoh or Chinon cameras? > > > > Well Lasse, it is the PENTAX users gallery after all. Not being > > a hard nosed person myself, I would say that as long as the > > camera body and the lens used is Pentax brand, then the > > submission will be published. > > I will certainly consider objections to this criteria. For > > example, it may be desirable to allow non Pentax brand lenses in > > the open galleries, as long as the body is Pentax. > > This really is mostly a non issue, but if you look at this > > months gallery, you will note that two of the submissions are > > from Canon and Nikon users respectively. While it is nice that > > they want to be seen in our forum, I want to discourage what I > > see as creeping horseshit from gaining a foothold in the PUG. > > As always, the gallery maintainer is the final arbiter of what > > will or will not be published in the PUG, but I will be guided > > by the desires of the people for whom the gallery is published > > for, which is the members of the PDML. > > > > I invite discussion on this subject. > > > > William Robb > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Using Pentax only equipment is restrictive but maybe that's how it should be. It's a Pentax Gallery. I very much look forward to and enjoy viewing the PUG, and will continue to enjoy regardless of equipment criteria. My preference, and that's all it is, would be a gallery using only Pentax/Asahi glass. I would even discriminate between Pentax designed and "rebadged" lenses. But any light tight box for the lenses would be fine. On the other hand I must admit I have enjoyed viewing many images produced with second and third party lenses on the Pentax and Related Users Gallery :) Mark Rofini - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Hello, my name is Kevin Thornsberry and I submitted a picture to the September PUG with a Sigma lens. whew . . .I feel better. For October I had planned to submit a picture taken with my ZX-5n and my Pentax FA 28-200, but also with a cheap old Soligor 2x converter I needed to get the shot. I've since replaced the Soligar 2X with Pentax 1.4x and 2x converters. Please advise. Lasse wrote: > Maybe because the submission guidelines says that during open months >pictures shot with non Pentax equipment are welcome... Well, that's what I thought. I wasn't trying to break the PUG rules. The fact is, I own two non-Pentax branded lenses (and one is in my "to be sold" category). The other is my Sigma 20/1.8 Ex. Now, I have no problem living within the rules. I'm not going to lie about what I use so if you say that I can't submit pictures with my Sigman 20 then I'll probably just sit some months out since I'm really enjoying using it but for me, when I'm walking around with my Pentax/Sigma combo I'm not a Sigma shooter. I'm a Pentax shooter. Sigma has produced an accessory that permits me to get more enjoyment out of my Pentax equipment. Pentax doesn't really have a lens I consider equivalent. Consequently, if you take a vote, I'd vote for allowing any pictures with some component being Pentax, generally body or lens. However, I reserve some respect for the rebels in this world who will put a Pentax filter (I understand that Pentax SMC filters are of very high quality) on the front of ! a Fijayamigushi system they bought on the home shopping network for $19.99 just to make a statement. If they do, the PDML will deliver the appropriate "Boos" and "Hisses". In the mean time I have a few more confessions to make + I replaced the Pentax neck strap on my Zx-5n with one by Op-Tech. + I once considered buying an Olympus right angle finder because I heard they fit +some Pentax bodies. + I have numerous Pentax lenses purchased from KEH that were later fitted with "no +name" lens caps. + I recently posted a message to the PDML which contained some remarks in favor of +digital photography. + I filter most threads about Spotmatics and LXs. + I once admired a Nikon F5 in a store. I looked really big and it was all black. + I occaisionally post messages in rich-text format. (Purely by accident, I promise) + I removed a tag from my mattress which clearly stated, "Do no remove under penalty +of law." + I drink directly from the milk jug. + I swim within a hour of eating. + I think "Seinfeld" was a dumb show. + I was a little insulted by Bob Blakely's remarks. + I used to think Disco was cool. Kevin Thornsberry - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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I personally would look toward Pentax bodies with any lens. It is very common practice for stores to sell a kit that contains a third party lens. Or in the case where a third party lens is chosen due to cost or availability. I think that if you buy the Pentax body, you are pretty much a Pentax user. Bruce Dayton Sacramento, CA - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 2:25 PM Subject: Re: What is Pentax equipment? > - Original Message - > From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:17 PM > Subject: What is Pentax equipment? (Was: More Yipping..." > > > > > What is "Pentax equipment"? > > It has to say "Pentax" on both camera and lenses? > > No Tokinas, Tamrons or Sigmas etc. lenses on Pentax bodies? > > No Pentax lenses on Ricoh or Chinon cameras? > > Well Lasse, it is the PENTAX users gallery after all. Not being > a hard nosed person myself, I would say that as long as the > camera body and the lens used is Pentax brand, then the > submission will be published. > I will certainly consider objections to this criteria. For > example, it may be desirable to allow non Pentax brand lenses in > the open galleries, as long as the body is Pentax. > This really is mostly a non issue, but if you look at this > months gallery, you will note that two of the submissions are > from Canon and Nikon users respectively. While it is nice that > they want to be seen in our forum, I want to discourage what I > see as creeping horseshit from gaining a foothold in the PUG. > As always, the gallery maintainer is the final arbiter of what > will or will not be published in the PUG, but I will be guided > by the desires of the people for whom the gallery is published > for, which is the members of the PDML. > > I invite discussion on this subject. > > William Robb > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Eloquently said John. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "John Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 6:33 PM Subject: Re: What is Pentax equipment? > Seems to me that posting only images taken only with > both Pentax bodies and lenses is too restrictive. > > To judge from the responses to this subject, I'm not > the only one who very often uses non-Pentax lenses > (and filters and flashes, camera straps and lens > hoods). I've taken many of my favorite photos with my > K1000, KX, and 5N with non-Pentax lenses and would > like to continue to post them to the PUG. > > Such a restriction would also have the effect of > excluding many newcomers to Pentax photography and > those who for whatever reason haven't invested in much > Pentax gear. I'm thinking, for instance, of the > people who buy used equipment (yesterday I was in a > camera store when a college student bought a K1000 > with a Ricoh lens for her photography class) or who > buy new Pentax bodies packaged with third party > lenses. > > Restrict PUG images to those taken with Pentax lenses > _and/or_ bodies? Sure. That's sufficiently within > the spirit of the PUG _and_ sufficiently > differentiates it from other web galleries. > > --John > > > = > John Edwin Mason > Charlottesville, Virginia > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > alt email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What is Pentax equipment?
Seems to me that posting only images taken only with both Pentax bodies and lenses is too restrictive. To judge from the responses to this subject, I'm not the only one who very often uses non-Pentax lenses (and filters and flashes, camera straps and lens hoods). I've taken many of my favorite photos with my K1000, KX, and 5N with non-Pentax lenses and would like to continue to post them to the PUG. Such a restriction would also have the effect of excluding many newcomers to Pentax photography and those who for whatever reason haven't invested in much Pentax gear. I'm thinking, for instance, of the people who buy used equipment (yesterday I was in a camera store when a college student bought a K1000 with a Ricoh lens for her photography class) or who buy new Pentax bodies packaged with third party lenses. Restrict PUG images to those taken with Pentax lenses _and/or_ bodies? Sure. That's sufficiently within the spirit of the PUG _and_ sufficiently differentiates it from other web galleries. --John = John Edwin Mason Charlottesville, Virginia email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] alt email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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I thought you had decided awhile back that pic had to be taken with a Pentax camera, or lens. That seemed to cover the spirit of the thing. Why not just enforce the decision you made then, Bill. In other words you should have just refused the non-pentax stuff, it didn't even need any comment. Of course, you realize that folks could lie about what equipment they used. --graywolf William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:17 PM > Subject: What is Pentax equipment? (Was: More Yipping..." > > > What is "Pentax equipment"? > > It has to say "Pentax" on both camera and lenses? > > No Tokinas, Tamrons or Sigmas etc. lenses on Pentax bodies? > > No Pentax lenses on Ricoh or Chinon cameras? > > Well Lasse, it is the PENTAX users gallery after all. Not being > a hard nosed person myself, I would say that as long as the > camera body and the lens used is Pentax brand, then the > submission will be published. > I will certainly consider objections to this criteria. For > example, it may be desirable to allow non Pentax brand lenses in > the open galleries, as long as the body is Pentax. > This really is mostly a non issue, but if you look at this > months gallery, you will note that two of the submissions are > from Canon and Nikon users respectively. While it is nice that > they want to be seen in our forum, I want to discourage what I > see as creeping horseshit from gaining a foothold in the PUG. > As always, the gallery maintainer is the final arbiter of what > will or will not be published in the PUG, but I will be guided > by the desires of the people for whom the gallery is published > for, which is the members of the PDML. > > I invite discussion on this subject. > > William Robb > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Tom "Graywolf" Rittenhouse Graywolf Photo, Charlotte, NC, USA -- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: What is Pentax equipment?
I haven't submitted an image to the gallery yet. I have a lot of Pentax stuff from cameras to lenses. I also have a Canon T90 and a Ricoh XRX-3PF. I sometimes use SMC Takumar lenses on those bodies via adapters. I think it should be OK to mix equipment as long as one of the items is Pentax. Jim A. > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:25:52 -0600 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: What is Pentax equipment? > > - Original Message - > From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:17 PM > Subject: What is Pentax equipment? (Was: More Yipping..." > > > >> What is "Pentax equipment"? >> It has to say "Pentax" on both camera and lenses? >> No Tokinas, Tamrons or Sigmas etc. lenses on Pentax bodies? >> No Pentax lenses on Ricoh or Chinon cameras? > > Well Lasse, it is the PENTAX users gallery after all. Not being > a hard nosed person myself, I would say that as long as the > camera body and the lens used is Pentax brand, then the > submission will be published. > I will certainly consider objections to this criteria. For > example, it may be desirable to allow non Pentax brand lenses in > the open galleries, as long as the body is Pentax. > This really is mostly a non issue, but if you look at this > months gallery, you will note that two of the submissions are > from Canon and Nikon users respectively. While it is nice that > they want to be seen in our forum, I want to discourage what I > see as creeping horseshit from gaining a foothold in the PUG. > As always, the gallery maintainer is the final arbiter of what > will or will not be published in the PUG, but I will be guided > by the desires of the people for whom the gallery is published > for, which is the members of the PDML. > > I invite discussion on this subject. > > William Robb > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I want to discourage what I see as creeping horseshit from gaining a foothold in the PUG. >> I love Canadians! No politically correct mumbo jumbo, just the plainspoken truth. Regards, Bob S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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- Original Message - From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: What is Pentax equipment? | In the September gallery there are five submitters, who, in good faith, have submitted pictures shot with non | Pentax equipment, exactly in accordance with guidlines provided by ourselves (essentially). | I think you (and for that matter Bill R. too, for referring to their submissions as "creeping horseshit") owe them | | all an apology. Hell yes... As the old saying goes, "Lex retro non agit" Greetz Artur - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I agree with you, Will. If yer going to be submitting to the gallery, why on > earth would ya submit photo's taken with other brand equipment? Oh. yeah. I > forgot. Ego. Look, there's lots o' places where you can submit yer photos > that are not brand related. Photo Critique is one. Satisfy your personal > egos there. Give us a link and we'll all go "h" and "Aaaah". Part of the > idea of the gallery is personal demonstrations and expressions of why we > like (and chose) Pentax! > > I find it hard to believe that one cannot afford an SMCA 50mm f/1.7. This is > an excellent and very versatile lens. > > I thought this place was about Pentax! > > Regards, > Bob... Bob, everyone has an ego, but I hope most PUGsters submit photos to share with fellow Pentaxians and hopefully get a comment that will help to improve on my/their images. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Bob B. wrote: > I agree with you, Will. If yer going to be submitting to the gallery, why on > earth would ya submit photo's taken with other brand equipment? Maybe because the submission guidelines says that during open months pictures shot with non Pentax equipment are welcome... >Oh. yeah. I > forgot. Ego. Look, there's lots o' places where you can submit yer photos > that are not brand related. Photo Critique is one. Satisfy your personal > egos there. Give us a link and we'll all go "h" and "Aaaah". Part of the > idea of the gallery is personal demonstrations and expressions of why we > like (and chose) Pentax! You are being silly and insulting. In the September gallery there are five submitters, who, in good faith, have submitted pictures shot with non Pentax equipment, exactly in accordance with guidlines provided by ourselves (essentially). I think you (and for that matter Bill R. too, for referring to their submissions as "creeping horseshit") owe them all an apology. They are not in the least deserving to be reproached by you or anyone else. Lasse - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Quoth William Robb: > I will certainly consider objections to this criteria. For > example, it may be desirable to allow non Pentax brand lenses in > the open galleries, as long as the body is Pentax. I hope so, as for some focal lengths, all I've got is non-Pentax glass. And a greater difficulty for me if we require Pentax lenses is that while I can look up which body I used for each roll of film, I seldom record which lens was used for which frames. So unless it's obvious from field-of-view and perspective, I may not _know_ whether a potential submission was made with a third-part lens or not. > This really is mostly a non issue, but if you look at this > months gallery, you will note that two of the submissions are > from Canon and Nikon users respectively. While it is nice that > they want to be seen in our forum, I want to discourage what I > see as creeping horseshit from gaining a foothold in the PUG. The impression I've had is that the PUG is for members of this particular little community to show off to each other, and that while we all identify as Pentax-users, some of us do have other equipment as well. I know that I don't think of myself as a "Pentax and Olympus and Konica" shooter, but I've had to skip over some photos I wanted to share when I noticed they were made with non-Pentax cameras. (For some reason those shots always come to mind during theme months...) Okay, the Olympus died a couple years ago, but I did get some cool shots from it. After all, while we do want to show off (as a side effect) what can be accomplished with Pentax gear, it's the photographer rather than the equipment that makes a photo a good photo. And whatever equipment used for a particular image, it's still showing off what a self-identified Pentax-user can do; someone who considers Pentax a brand name worth being identified with whether it's his or her only brand or not. So I can see why we've allowed non-Pentax gear in the past. That having been said, I _do_ agree that restricting a gallery with Pentax prominently in the name to photos made with Pentax gear is _not_unreasonable_. But I do hope that the most inclusive interpretation of that restriction is used. I'd hate to have to rule out large numbers of potential submissions because my 135/2.8 screwmount is a Vivitar, or my 400/6.8 preset K-mount is some off-brand, or I can't remember whether I used the Super Takumar 55/1.8 or the Fuji 50/1.7 that day. "I'm a Pentax shooter, and I shot this on my trusty Pentax." (Yes, I know the lens is more important to image-forming than the body. I still don' wanna be left out 'cause I couldn't afford a Pentax lens in a particular length.) -- Glenn - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote: > After all, while we do want to show off (as a side effect) > what can be accomplished with Pentax gear, it's the photographer > rather than the equipment that makes a photo a good photo. > And whatever equipment used for a particular image, it's > still showing off what a self-identified Pentax-user can > do; someone who considers Pentax a brand name worth being > identified with whether it's his or her only brand or not. There are numerous ways that you can present your non-Pentax photos to the group, and to the world, aside from the PUG. -- Sheldon Belinkoff CREATURE'S COMFORT mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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- Original Message - From: "Lasse Karlsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:17 PM Subject: What is Pentax equipment? (Was: More Yipping..." > What is "Pentax equipment"? > It has to say "Pentax" on both camera and lenses? > No Tokinas, Tamrons or Sigmas etc. lenses on Pentax bodies? > No Pentax lenses on Ricoh or Chinon cameras? Well Lasse, it is the PENTAX users gallery after all. Not being a hard nosed person myself, I would say that as long as the camera body and the lens used is Pentax brand, then the submission will be published. I will certainly consider objections to this criteria. For example, it may be desirable to allow non Pentax brand lenses in the open galleries, as long as the body is Pentax. This really is mostly a non issue, but if you look at this months gallery, you will note that two of the submissions are from Canon and Nikon users respectively. While it is nice that they want to be seen in our forum, I want to discourage what I see as creeping horseshit from gaining a foothold in the PUG. As always, the gallery maintainer is the final arbiter of what will or will not be published in the PUG, but I will be guided by the desires of the people for whom the gallery is published for, which is the members of the PDML. I invite discussion on this subject. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
