Re: geso my new camera

2009-11-16 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/15/2009 11:43:18 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
l...@red4est.com writes:
I've decided that the best way  to think of the photos from it is as
lightroom fodder. These are what I got  when I was frankly(*) taking
pictures yesterday  morning.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/7215762267405/


(*)  I've decided that frankly is an adverb for taking pictures, often
in poor  lighting, with subject matter as the prime concern,
composition as the  second, sharpness and exposure third, and noise
level being almost  irrelevant.



Actually, if you use the term frankly  that way, composition is right near 
the top of the list.

Marnie ;-)  Thanks for the info.

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Re: geso my new camera

2009-11-15 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/9/2009 5:20:04 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
m...@robertstech.com writes:
Larry Colen  wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622647373103/

I  wasn't looking to buy a camera, but my waranty replacement treo died
last  week and the camera in the new droid is about an order of
magnitude more  usable than I expected.

I need to figure out how to get the full  resolution photos off of
it. I just got back at about 9 this morning, I  didn't even have time
to RTFM with the new phone, but the short review is  that I like it. A
lot.

Keep us posted. My S.O. is getting a Droid  phone next week.

=
Which Driod phone did you get?

I  have T-Mobile and am thinking of upgrading. I like the GPS feature, 
didn't  realize it would tag.

Marnie  

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RE: geso my new camera

2009-11-15 Thread Bob W
 
 Keep us posted. My S.O. is getting a Droid  phone next week.
 
 =
 Which Driod phone did you get?
 
 I  have T-Mobile and am thinking of upgrading. I like the GPS 
 feature, didn't  realize it would tag.
 

I have GPS on my t-mobile phone. It's very handy with Google maps. Navigated
from the bus stop to a friend's house last night. Without GPS I'd have had
to rely on my inbuilt beer radar...

Bob


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Re: geso my new camera

2009-11-15 Thread Larry Colen
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 12:03:01PM -0500, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 In a message dated 11/9/2009 5:20:04 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
 m...@robertstech.com writes:
 Larry Colen  wrote:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622647373103/
 it. I just got back at about 9 this morning, I  didn't even have time
 to RTFM with the new phone, but the short review is  that I like it. A
 lot.
 
 Keep us posted. My S.O. is getting a Droid  phone next week.
 
 =
 Which Driod phone did you get?

The generic term is android, I got the Verizon, motorola droid.

 
 I  have T-Mobile and am thinking of upgrading. I like the GPS feature, 
 didn't  realize it would tag.

Something that I'm doing is causing it to occasionally make calls when
it's in my pocket, I need to get a sleeve or holster for it. That's
the biggest wart so far. Last night we were playing with the slacker
internet radio. The stereo was stolen from my girlfriends car, so I
stuck my Pan Galactic Ghetto Blaster  http://red4est.com/pggb in the
trunk, and rather than plugging an iPod or laptop into it, we plugged
my phone into it with the slacker tunes going. It worked pretty well.

With connectbot I can get an ssh term to my home computer, very handy,
the screen and keyboard are a lot easier to use than pSSH on my treo
was. I might have even been able to postpone progressive lenses
another year or so if I'd gotten this two months ago.

I've decided that the best way to think of the photos from it is as
lightroom fodder. These are what I got when I was frankly(*) taking
pictures yesterday morning.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/7215762267405/


(*) I've decided that frankly is an adverb for taking pictures, often
in poor lighting, with subject matter as the prime concern,
composition as the second, sharpness and exposure third, and noise
level being almost irrelevant.

 
 Marnie  
 
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RE: geso my new camera

2009-11-10 Thread Bob W
[...]
 
 Once I got it onto my iMac I processed it a bit more:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4091536378/in/set-721576
 22647635111/
 
[...]
 
 Web research on Salvation Mountain in Niland CA would 
 probably tell a lot more of the story. But it is a very 
 impressive accomplishment for one guy, who is now probably in 
 his 70's or 80's. Leonard Knight, if I recall correctly.
 
[...]
 
 It is interesting to note that I was the only one shooting 
 Pentax, but there were three people shooting Holgas.
 

Must have reached a tipping point where pro cameras outnumber consumer ones.

It looks like a great place.

Bob


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RE: geso my new camera

2009-11-10 Thread Bob W
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622647373103/
 
 I wasn't looking to buy a camera, but my waranty replacement 
 treo died 
 last week and the camera in the new droid is about an order of 
 magnitude more usable than I expected.
 
 I need to figure out how to get the full resolution photos 
 off of it. I 
 just got back at about 9 this morning, I didn't even have 
 time to RTFM 
 with the new phone, but the short review is that I like it. A lot.
 
 Keep us posted. My S.O. is getting a Droid phone next week.

I got a new phone this weekend with a 5mp camera - that's the same number as
my Olympus E-1. The pictures are excessively warm, but in an emergency
they'd do.

It's an upgrade of my old phone and runs Windows Mobile which is ok. I
looked at some Android phones but they were very clunky about synchronising
with Outlook on my PC, which is a very important requirement for me.

I looked at iPhones too, but they're too big. I might get one next time
round when they come down to a reasonable size. At the moment only someone
of Cotty's size should be allowed to have one.

Bob


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Re: geso my new camera

2009-11-10 Thread Larry Colen
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 07:59:44PM -0500, ann sanfedele wrote:
 
 I like this the best of the three.. but i do want the barn /shed roof to 
 stand out more.

With the K20:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4092502586/in/set-72157622649877861/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4091738499/in/set-72157622649877861/

 
 The second one is really scary :-)
 
 ann

The whole place is kind of scary in that burning man goes to church
sort of way.

I did a quick sort and processing of my salvation mountain shots.  I
should trim the set down to just a few pictures but this is just a fun
set of snapshots to try and convey a feel for the place:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622649877861/

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Re: geso my new camera

2009-11-10 Thread Charles Robinson

On Nov 9, 2009, at 23:19, Larry Colen wrote:


I sus;ec that there may be some subtle tone mapping going on, the sky
in these shots is just too well exposed in comparison with the rest of
the frame.



In the full-sized images, I could also see a bit of a grid pattern  
on a couple of the images (well, the two I looked at in full-sized  
mode).   Nice detail and exposure, but that grid look would be a  
bummer if it's there all the time.  Anyone else notice that?


http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622647373103/


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Re: geso my new camera

2009-11-09 Thread ann sanfedele

THe first one :
maybe bring up the brightness and contrast on the lower third of the 
frame and convert to BW...
and I think it would be great... It may only be my poor eyesight but I 
can only jsut make out what the

roof says.. and I think its both scary and funny.

I like this the best of the three.. but i do want the barn /shed roof to 
stand out more.


The second one is really scary :-)

ann

Larry Colen wrote:

I got a new camera on Friday. 


It's 5MP, fits in my pocket, has a nice screen for viewing and while
the quality isn't even close to my Pentax, it's  lot better than I
expected.

It does have some features that could be convenient in my SLRs, such
as automatic GPS tagging of photos and the ability to upload photos
directly to various sites: flickr, facebook, picassa. 


This weekend I used it mostly to take photos to get a geotag of where
I was taking photos with the SLRs, but I got a couple of decent shots
with it:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622647373103/

I wasn't looking to buy a camera, but my waranty replacement treo died
last week and the camera in the new droid is about an order of
magnitude more usable than I expected.

I need to figure out how to get the full resolution photos off of
it. I just got back at about 9 this morning, I didn't even have time
to RTFM with the new phone, but the short review is that I like it. A
lot.


 





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Re: geso my new camera

2009-11-09 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 I got a new camera on Friday.

 It's 5MP, fits in my pocket, has a nice screen for viewing and while
 the quality isn't even close to my Pentax, it's  lot better than I
 expected.

 It does have some features that could be convenient in my SLRs, such
 as automatic GPS tagging of photos and the ability to upload photos
 directly to various sites: flickr, facebook, picassa.

 This weekend I used it mostly to take photos to get a geotag of where
 I was taking photos with the SLRs, but I got a couple of decent shots
 with it:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622647373103/

 I wasn't looking to buy a camera, but my waranty replacement treo died
 last week and the camera in the new droid is about an order of
 magnitude more usable than I expected.

 I need to figure out how to get the full resolution photos off of
 it. I just got back at about 9 this morning, I didn't even have time
 to RTFM with the new phone, but the short review is that I like it. A
 lot.

Terrific photos.

Scary, but terrific.  A slice of Americana...

cheers,
frank



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Re: geso my new camera

2009-11-09 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622647373103/

I wasn't looking to buy a camera, but my waranty replacement treo died
last week and the camera in the new droid is about an order of
magnitude more usable than I expected.

I need to figure out how to get the full resolution photos off of
it. I just got back at about 9 this morning, I didn't even have time
to RTFM with the new phone, but the short review is that I like it. A
lot.

Keep us posted. My S.O. is getting a Droid phone next week.


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Re: geso my new camera

2009-11-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 04:39:10PM -0800, Larry Colen wrote:
 I got a new camera on Friday. 

I figured out how to get the files off of it, I'm uploading the full
sized files to:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622647635111/

 
 It's 5MP, fits in my pocket, has a nice screen for viewing and while
 the quality isn't even close to my Pentax, it's  lot better than I
 expected.
 
 It does have some features that could be convenient in my SLRs, such
 as automatic GPS tagging of photos and the ability to upload photos
 directly to various sites: flickr, facebook, picassa. 
 
 This weekend I used it mostly to take photos to get a geotag of where
 I was taking photos with the SLRs, but I got a couple of decent shots
 with it:
  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622647373103/
 
 I wasn't looking to buy a camera, but my waranty replacement treo died
 last week and the camera in the new droid is about an order of
 magnitude more usable than I expected.
 
 I need to figure out how to get the full resolution photos off of
 it. I just got back at about 9 this morning, I didn't even have time
 to RTFM with the new phone, but the short review is that I like it. A
 lot.
 
 
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 the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good.
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Re: geso my new camera

2009-11-09 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 08:19:44PM -0500, Mark Roberts wrote:
 
 Keep us posted. My S.O. is getting a Droid phone next week.

My wife just got one, too.


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Re: geso my new camera

2009-11-09 Thread Larry Colen
On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 07:59:44PM -0500, ann sanfedele wrote:
 THe first one :
 maybe bring up the brightness and contrast on the lower third of the 
 frame and convert to BW...

That was uploaded directly from the camera to flickr.

Once I got it onto my iMac I processed it a bit more:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4091536378/in/set-72157622647635111/

I'll also be posting a bunch of pictures taken with real cameras,
I've got about 1400 frames from the weekend to wade through.

I'd guess that there are probably 1 to 2 orders of magnitude more
photos taken with camera phones than any other sort of camera, but I
tend to think of them as not real cameras. I was very pleasantly
surprised at the quality of the photos this phone produces, in good
light anyways.

I sus;ec that there may be some subtle tone mapping going on, the sky
in these shots is just too well exposed in comparison with the rest of
the frame.

 and I think it would be great... It may only be my poor eyesight but I 
 can only jsut make out what the
 roof says.. and I think its both scary and funny.
 
 I like this the best of the three.. but i do want the barn /shed roof to 
 stand out more.

 
 The second one is really scary :-)

Web research on Salvation Mountain in Niland CA would probably
tell a lot more of the story. But it is a very impressive
accomplishment for one guy, who is now probably in his 70's or
80's. Leonard Knight, if I recall correctly.

There was an amazing amount of stuff to photograph down in that
area. Unfortunately the group we went with was about 30 people, so it
was impossible to photograph anything of interest without someone else
getting in the way.

I found that I also seem to have a different rhythm when it comes to
photographing some of these places. We'd get there, everybody would
charge off to the obvious subject, I'd take a couple of warm up
shots and just as I was starting to get a feel for the place, and
starting to see intersting things to photograph, we'd charge off
someplace else.

It is interesting to note that I was the only one shooting Pentax, but
there were three people shooting Holgas.

 
 ann
 
 Larry Colen wrote:
 
 I got a new camera on Friday. 
 
 It's 5MP, fits in my pocket, has a nice screen for viewing and while
 the quality isn't even close to my Pentax, it's  lot better than I
 expected.
 
 It does have some features that could be convenient in my SLRs, such
 as automatic GPS tagging of photos and the ability to upload photos
 directly to various sites: flickr, facebook, picassa. 
 
 This weekend I used it mostly to take photos to get a geotag of where
 I was taking photos with the SLRs, but I got a couple of decent shots
 with it:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622647373103/
 
 I wasn't looking to buy a camera, but my waranty replacement treo died
 last week and the camera in the new droid is about an order of
 magnitude more usable than I expected.
 
 I need to figure out how to get the full resolution photos off of
 it. I just got back at about 9 this morning, I didn't even have time
 to RTFM with the new phone, but the short review is that I like it. A
 lot.
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
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