Re: Got caught by the Green Button
From: Rob Studdert On 25 February 2013 04:34, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: I've never hit the green button on accident, either. Becasue the AF is so flaky in low light on the k5 I often have the AF disconnected from the shutter button so use the dedicated AF button. The problem is that when using the grip the rear AF button is positioned in line and close to the green button. Problem solved on that front though by simply disabling the green button in manual. That was something they did with the K-7; swapped the position of the green button and the exposure compensation button from where they'd been on the K10D K20D. It was one of the changes I didn't much care for. Wouldn't have kept me from buying a K7 or a K5 if I'd felt I needed to, but it wasn't a point in their favor. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the green button
From: Rob Studdert On 24 February 2013 12:29, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I know that there are some cameras where you have to lift the mode dial slightly or hold down a release button before you can turn it to change the settings. On the LX you had to hold down a button while you turned the dial to change the exposure compensation (dial in the same location). The K5 has a mode lock button at the top of the dial it easy to change quickly if you're a contortionist. Had to take a look at the K5 manual. That's exactly the kind of thing I meant. Hold down the Mode Dial Lock to UN-lock the Mode Dial. They didn't have a Mode Dial Lock on the K20D. The K20D mode dial can get bumped unintentionally changed. Doesn't look like the Mode Dial Lock would be that much of a hassle. I rarely want to change the Mode without looking at what I'm changing it to. It wouldn't be that difficult for Pentax to include that kind of an interlock on their next camera. Preventing e-dial creep would be a bit more of a problem. Wouldn't be too difficult, hel they can do it on washing machines, ie hold exp comp and ISO buttons simultaneously for a second? Or perhaps allow the green button to be programmed as a commit button. Change the e-dial setting the new setting blinks at you until you press the green button to accept the change. If you don't push the green button within 3 - 5 seconds the setting just returns to its previous value. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the Green Button
On 24/02/2013 4:25 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote: And Bill the Tape on the dials is a good idea, but it leaves behind some 'GOO that is hard to clean up. Messy sticky too. Regards. Bipin - from that far away enchanting land Green painters tape. It sticks well enough to get through a shoot, and is residue free. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the Green Button
I think a simple lock would just be sufficient. Like that hold a button down and the settings lock. Hold it down again and you can twiddle away. Far more elegant than green tape. :) You know for as much as I use the RAW button (which is never really), this would be simple to assign a locking feature. Wouldn't that be useful? Or jam the ISO and EV buttons together? Problem is that there is no way of displaying the status of the lock in the viewfinder or top LCD other than not being able to change settings. On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/02/2013 4:25 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote: And Bill the Tape on the dials is a good idea, but it leaves behind some 'GOO that is hard to clean up. Messy sticky too. Regards. Bipin - from that far away enchanting land Green painters tape. It sticks well enough to get through a shoot, and is residue free. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the Green Button
I've never hit the green button on accident, either. I have hit the Live View button a few times while trying to switch focus points on the K-5, though. -- Walt On 2/24/2013 4:25 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote: I have never accidentally hit the Green Button, either in the K20D or the K-5. But yes I have nudged the eDials. This causes some headache as I have set the Front eDial to ISO on all modes. By the way, I have noticed the Focus Mode switch sometimes change from AF-S to AF-C or MF when pulling the camera out of the Bag. I shoot mostly JPEG (the JPEG output is better from the camera than RAW PPd in Photoshop or PDCU) so sometimes I tend to hit the RAW/Fx Button changing the capture to RAW+JPEG. The lock on the mode dial is a welcome change on the K-5. And Bill the Tape on the dials is a good idea, but it leaves behind some 'GOO that is hard to clean up. Messy sticky too. Regards. Bipin - from that far away enchanting land -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the green button
Yes! Happens to me too. e-dial creep from two places, and happens frequently when switching to portrait from landscape or back. Then there's that other grip gripe: if the e-dial on the body is turned slightly off detent, (purposely) adjusting the grip e-dial has no effect (or vice versa). G. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Shite... I often turns control wheels on the grip when I handle my K-5. Not always though I notice that soon enough. Annoys me greatly... On 2/23/2013 3:26 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Damn, I attended a free studio workshop today, we had a three flash setup with two models and I had set the k5 to manual according to the flash setup. I had the grip on and hit the green button instead of the AF button which by default reset my settings to the accommodate the ambient light conditions. As there were a lot of people there it was fast paced (about 2-3 mins shooting time) I missed the change until it was too late so a lot of shots are quite blown out. Suffice to say I've now disabled the green button in manual mode which until this particular session had never been a real issue. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the Green Button
On 25 February 2013 04:34, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote: I've never hit the green button on accident, either. Becasue the AF is so flaky in low light on the k5 I often have the AF disconnected from the shutter button so use the dedicated AF button. The problem is that when using the grip the rear AF button is positioned in line and close to the green button. Problem solved on that front though by simply disabling the green button in manual. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Got caught by the green button
Ouch. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com Sent: February 23, 2013 2/23/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Got caught by the green button Damn, I attended a free studio workshop today, we had a three flash setup with two models and I had set the k5 to manual according to the flash setup. I had the grip on and hit the green button instead of the AF button which by default reset my settings to the accommodate the ambient light conditions. As there were a lot of people there it was fast paced (about 2-3 mins shooting time) I missed the change until it was too late so a lot of shots are quite blown out. Suffice to say I've now disabled the green button in manual mode which until this particular session had never been a real issue. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the green button
Ouch indeed! Sorry to hear it. I've never mis-hit the green button, but I've been screwed by e-dial-creep on multiple occasions. While in the heat of shooting, I nudge one or other of the e-dials so either the aperture or shutter drifts away. The shutter usually doesn't cause hassles: I set it to 1/160th, but 1/125th is safe. But the aperture changing is a killer. I've also knocked the mode from M to Av, TAv or other -- always really bad! I'm looking forward to getting a K-5 model some day just to eliminate that possibility. For studio shooting, I wish there was a way to lock out all the settings buttons and dials after configuring them. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Ouch. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com Sent: February 23, 2013 2/23/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Got caught by the green button Damn, I attended a free studio workshop today, we had a three flash setup with two models and I had set the k5 to manual according to the flash setup. I had the grip on and hit the green button instead of the AF button which by default reset my settings to the accommodate the ambient light conditions. As there were a lot of people there it was fast paced (about 2-3 mins shooting time) I missed the change until it was too late so a lot of shots are quite blown out. Suffice to say I've now disabled the green button in manual mode which until this particular session had never been a real issue. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the green button
On 23/02/2013 10:46 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Ouch indeed! Sorry to hear it. I've never mis-hit the green button, but I've been screwed by e-dial-creep on multiple occasions. While in the heat of shooting, I nudge one or other of the e-dials so either the aperture or shutter drifts away. The shutter usually doesn't cause hassles: I set it to 1/160th, but 1/125th is safe. But the aperture changing is a killer. I've also knocked the mode from M to Av, TAv or other -- always really bad! I'm looking forward to getting a K-5 model some day just to eliminate that possibility. For studio shooting, I wish there was a way to lock out all the settings buttons and dials after configuring them. It would be smart if one of the user functions was a locked manual mode. I've had a couple of occasions where I've accidentally bumped a dial and changed a setting I didn't want changed. I tape the dials now so that I can't accidentally change settings if I know I don't want them changed. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the green button
I agree. I would love locked dials. I often bump my aperture dial in Av mode and end up shooting at apertures I don't want if I am not paying attention. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 23/02/2013 10:46 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Ouch indeed! Sorry to hear it. I've never mis-hit the green button, but I've been screwed by e-dial-creep on multiple occasions. While in the heat of shooting, I nudge one or other of the e-dials so either the aperture or shutter drifts away. The shutter usually doesn't cause hassles: I set it to 1/160th, but 1/125th is safe. But the aperture changing is a killer. I've also knocked the mode from M to Av, TAv or other -- always really bad! I'm looking forward to getting a K-5 model some day just to eliminate that possibility. For studio shooting, I wish there was a way to lock out all the settings buttons and dials after configuring them. It would be smart if one of the user functions was a locked manual mode. I've had a couple of occasions where I've accidentally bumped a dial and changed a setting I didn't want changed. I tape the dials now so that I can't accidentally change settings if I know I don't want them changed. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the green button
I feel your pain, I had the ISO on the front dial in AV mode thinking that it was a smart thing to do early on, but keeping track of two potential unwanted variables whist busy is too much. A lock on the thumb-wheel dials would be most appreciated. On 24 February 2013 03:46, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Ouch indeed! Sorry to hear it. I've never mis-hit the green button, but I've been screwed by e-dial-creep on multiple occasions. While in the heat of shooting, I nudge one or other of the e-dials so either the aperture or shutter drifts away. The shutter usually doesn't cause hassles: I set it to 1/160th, but 1/125th is safe. But the aperture changing is a killer. I've also knocked the mode from M to Av, TAv or other -- always really bad! I'm looking forward to getting a K-5 model some day just to eliminate that possibility. For studio shooting, I wish there was a way to lock out all the settings buttons and dials after configuring them. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 9:19 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Ouch. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com Sent: February 23, 2013 2/23/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Got caught by the green button Damn, I attended a free studio workshop today, we had a three flash setup with two models and I had set the k5 to manual according to the flash setup. I had the grip on and hit the green button instead of the AF button which by default reset my settings to the accommodate the ambient light conditions. As there were a lot of people there it was fast paced (about 2-3 mins shooting time) I missed the change until it was too late so a lot of shots are quite blown out. Suffice to say I've now disabled the green button in manual mode which until this particular session had never been a real issue. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the green button
On Feb 23, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: I feel your pain, I had the ISO on the front dial in AV mode thinking that it was a smart thing to do early on, but keeping track of two potential unwanted variables whist busy is too much. A lock on the thumb-wheel dials would be most appreciated. Until you try to change the settings and spend twenty minutes trying to figure out why they won't change. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the green button
From: Bill On 23/02/2013 10:46 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Ouch indeed! Sorry to hear it. I've never mis-hit the green button, but I've been screwed by e-dial-creep on multiple occasions. While in the heat of shooting, I nudge one or other of the e-dials so either the aperture or shutter drifts away. The shutter usually doesn't cause hassles: I set it to 1/160th, but 1/125th is safe. But the aperture changing is a killer. I've also knocked the mode from M to Av, TAv or other -- always really bad! I'm looking forward to getting a K-5 model some day just to eliminate that possibility. For studio shooting, I wish there was a way to lock out all the settings buttons and dials after configuring them. It would be smart if one of the user functions was a locked manual mode. I've had a couple of occasions where I've accidentally bumped a dial and changed a setting I didn't want changed. I tape the dials now so that I can't accidentally change settings if I know I don't want them changed. bill I know that there are some cameras where you have to lift the mode dial slightly or hold down a release button before you can turn it to change the settings. On the LX you had to hold down a button while you turned the dial to change the exposure compensation (dial in the same location). It wouldn't be that difficult for Pentax to include that kind of an interlock on their next camera. Preventing e-dial creep would be a bit more of a problem. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the green button
On 24 February 2013 12:29, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I know that there are some cameras where you have to lift the mode dial slightly or hold down a release button before you can turn it to change the settings. On the LX you had to hold down a button while you turned the dial to change the exposure compensation (dial in the same location). The K5 has a mode lock button at the top of the dial it easy to change quickly if you're a contortionist. It wouldn't be that difficult for Pentax to include that kind of an interlock on their next camera. Preventing e-dial creep would be a bit more of a problem. Wouldn't be too difficult, hel they can do it on washing machines, ie hold exp comp and ISO buttons simultaneously for a second? -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the green button
I just try to watch settings in the view finder. I have the front dial set to aperture and the rear set to ISO. I don't bump the front often...the ISO dial is more problematic. Usually I double check everything before I hit the shutter, but in fast moving situations you stop noticing that you are suddenly at iso 6400 @ f16. Whoops. I'm on the fence. Nikons I think require a button press for the dials to activate. This could be useful sometimes. At the same time I love that I can hold the camera up to my eye and start dialing in what I want immediately, so its a double edged sword. I typically preset my camera to the settings I want anyways. If things are changing a lot, I will use auto-iso and set a max ISO and just bump my aperture up and down to give me the shutter speeds I need. Adjusting the program line to a faster or slower speed depending on subject matter is also highly useful. I find that I use auto ISO on the k-5 a bit, where on the k-7 I was always trying to keep my ISO as low as possible with 1600 being my if max when IQ is not critical. On the k-5 I'll use 3200 without hesitation and even 6400...especially for black and white 6400 is pretty pleasing with the noise pattern resembling grain somewhat. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 February 2013 12:29, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I know that there are some cameras where you have to lift the mode dial slightly or hold down a release button before you can turn it to change the settings. On the LX you had to hold down a button while you turned the dial to change the exposure compensation (dial in the same location). The K5 has a mode lock button at the top of the dial it easy to change quickly if you're a contortionist. It wouldn't be that difficult for Pentax to include that kind of an interlock on their next camera. Preventing e-dial creep would be a bit more of a problem. Wouldn't be too difficult, hel they can do it on washing machines, ie hold exp comp and ISO buttons simultaneously for a second? -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the green button
On 23/02/2013 6:44 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Feb 23, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: I feel your pain, I had the ISO on the front dial in AV mode thinking that it was a smart thing to do early on, but keeping track of two potential unwanted variables whist busy is too much. A lock on the thumb-wheel dials would be most appreciated. Until you try to change the settings and spend twenty minutes trying to figure out why they won't change. Hence wanting it to be a user function. There is no reason why the settings in manual couldn't be locked down by saving them to a user function. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got caught by the green button
Shite... I often turns control wheels on the grip when I handle my K-5. Not always though I notice that soon enough. Annoys me greatly... On 2/23/2013 3:26 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Damn, I attended a free studio workshop today, we had a three flash setup with two models and I had set the k5 to manual according to the flash setup. I had the grip on and hit the green button instead of the AF button which by default reset my settings to the accommodate the ambient light conditions. As there were a lot of people there it was fast paced (about 2-3 mins shooting time) I missed the change until it was too late so a lot of shots are quite blown out. Suffice to say I've now disabled the green button in manual mode which until this particular session had never been a real issue. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
