Re: New Pentax stuff
My DL is getting beat up. I most likely will get a K-x. May be a white one. :) -Pasvorn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Wow, on the Pentax K-x site in Japan, they show 20 body colors + 5 grip colors. http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-x/ Love it. LOL. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark wrote: > My DL is getting beat up. I most likely will get a K-x. > > May be a white one. :) > > -Pasvorn > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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... and we thought the Hello Kitty version was a joke! Dario - Original Message - From: "Pasvorn Boonmark" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:25 AM Subject: Re: New Pentax stuff Wow, on the Pentax K-x site in Japan, they show 20 body colors + 5 grip colors. http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-x/ Love it. LOL. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark wrote: My DL is getting beat up. I most likely will get a K-x. May be a white one. :) -Pasvorn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It will be a big hit with many people. Plus soon to come color matching lenses. I'm glad they didn't make user changeable covers for the next wave of plastic junk. Specs look like an improvement over the K-m though. One more: K-Pax - thought controlled camera ]=) Now could Pentax please give us a camo K-7 and matching DA* and WR lenses? Cheers Ecke 2009/9/17 Pasvorn Boonmark : > Wow, on the Pentax K-x site in Japan, they show 20 body colors + 5 grip > colors. > http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-x/ > > Love it. LOL. > > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark > wrote: >> My DL is getting beat up. I most likely will get a K-x. >> >> May be a white one. :) >> >> -Pasvorn >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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and may God have mercy on your soul... Pasvorn Boonmark wrote: My DL is getting beat up. I most likely will get a K-x. May be a white one. :) -Pasvorn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Aaarrrggg, MY EYES! It's like looking at a bag of camera shaped skittles. At least they have them in black... Pasvorn Boonmark wrote: Wow, on the Pentax K-x site in Japan, they show 20 body colors + 5 grip colors. http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-x/ Love it. LOL. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark wrote: My DL is getting beat up. I most likely will get a K-x. May be a white one. :) -Pasvorn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Haha just wait till the froot loop filters come out ]=) 2009/9/17 P. J. Alling : > > Aaarrrggg, MY EYES! It's like looking at a bag of camera shaped skittles. > At least they have them in black... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It looks like the K-x is a replacement for the K2000/K-m leaving the K-200D slot open. One more shoe to drop maybe. eckinator wrote: It will be a big hit with many people. Plus soon to come color matching lenses. I'm glad they didn't make user changeable covers for the next wave of plastic junk. Specs look like an improvement over the K-m though. One more: K-Pax - thought controlled camera ]=) Now could Pentax please give us a camo K-7 and matching DA* and WR lenses? Cheers Ecke 2009/9/17 Pasvorn Boonmark : Wow, on the Pentax K-x site in Japan, they show 20 body colors + 5 grip colors. http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-x/ Love it. LOL. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark wrote: My DL is getting beat up. I most likely will get a K-x. May be a white one. :) -Pasvorn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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K-x? After the K-m? Should we expect a K-2 later? On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 6:32 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > It looks like the K-x is a replacement for the K2000/K-m leaving the K-200D > slot open. One more shoe to drop maybe. > eckinator wrote: >> >> It will be a big hit with many people. Plus soon to come color matching >> lenses. >> I'm glad they didn't make user changeable covers for the next wave of >> plastic junk. >> >> Specs look like an improvement over the K-m though. >> >> One more: K-Pax - thought controlled camera ]=) >> >> Now could Pentax please give us a camo K-7 and matching DA* and WR lenses? >> >> Cheers >> Ecke >> >> 2009/9/17 Pasvorn Boonmark : >> >>> >>> Wow, on the Pentax K-x site in Japan, they show 20 body colors + 5 grip >>> colors. >>> http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-x/ >>> >>> Love it. LOL. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark >>> wrote: >>> My DL is getting beat up. I most likely will get a K-x. May be a white one. :) -Pasvorn >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> > > > -- > > > The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or > drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a > damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is > not a free man any more than a dog. > > --G. K. Chesterton > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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>Pasvorn Boonmark wrote: >> My DL is getting beat up. I most likely will get a K-x. >> >> May be a white one. :) >> > Wow, on the Pentax K-x site in Japan, they show 20 body colors + 5 grip > colors. > http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-x/ > > Love it. LOL. Wow, indeed! It goes to show how conservative we are here that we only get 4 color choices. It'll be interesting to see if there's a gray market here for the Japan-only exotic colors. Last night they told the story of the white K-2000. Pentax came up with the idea but were nervous about its sales (or not!) potential. They were going to launch a market research program to see if it was viable. The new owners Hoya told them that with their manufacturing technology they could put the camera into production for less what the marketing research would cost. So that's what they did. The result was excellent sales and lots of favorable publicity (other than amongst pixel-peeping Pentax fanboys). Even more impressive were the demographic data: DSLR buyers typically consist of 80% men and 20% women. With the white K-2000 it was 50-50. Most of the women were first-time DSLR buyers, too. This really got everyone's attention because it's a hugely important demographic. Before long we'll probably see lots of DSLR's available in a choice of colors, just like MP3 players, cell phones, etc. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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lol Order it in these colours, and you'd have to be careful about dropping it in the grass... http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-x/#/simulator/040101 2009/9/17 Pasvorn Boonmark : > Wow, on the Pentax K-x site in Japan, they show 20 body colors + 5 grip > colors. > http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-x/ > > Love it. LOL. > > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark > wrote: >> My DL is getting beat up. I most likely will get a K-x. >> >> May be a white one. :) >> >> -Pasvorn >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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OMG! My eyes! Gee, I kinda like the red one . . . -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Pasvorn Boonmark Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:25 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: New Pentax stuff Wow, on the Pentax K-x site in Japan, they show 20 body colors + 5 grip colors. http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-x/ Love it. LOL. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark wrote: > My DL is getting beat up. I most likely will get a K-x. > > May be a white one. :) > > -Pasvorn > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nope, it's very definitely a K200D replacement. It outspecifies the K200D in every way except sealing and fixes the one real issue the K200D had (buffer spec). The K-m will no doubt drop a bit in price though. -Adam On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 6:32 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > It looks like the K-x is a replacement for the K2000/K-m leaving the K-200D > slot open. One more shoe to drop maybe. > eckinator wrote: >> >> It will be a big hit with many people. Plus soon to come color matching >> lenses. >> I'm glad they didn't make user changeable covers for the next wave of >> plastic junk. >> >> Specs look like an improvement over the K-m though. >> >> One more: K-Pax - thought controlled camera ]=) >> >> Now could Pentax please give us a camo K-7 and matching DA* and WR lenses? >> >> Cheers >> Ecke >> >> 2009/9/17 Pasvorn Boonmark : >> >>> >>> Wow, on the Pentax K-x site in Japan, they show 20 body colors + 5 grip >>> colors. >>> http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-x/ >>> >>> Love it. LOL. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark >>> wrote: >>> My DL is getting beat up. I most likely will get a K-x. May be a white one. :) -Pasvorn >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> > > > -- > > > The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or > drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a > damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is > not a free man any more than a dog. > > --G. K. Chesterton > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yes, and what color is that last one; looks titanium to me. Kinda nice. I think I may see one of these in my future? Walt On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Pasvorn Boonmark wrote: > Wow, on the Pentax K-x site in Japan, they show 20 body colors + 5 grip > colors. > http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-x/ > > Love it. LOL. > > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark > wrote: >> My DL is getting beat up. I most likely will get a K-x. >> >> May be a white one. :) >> >> -Pasvorn >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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What is the price? Dan On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Walter Hamler wrote: > Yes, and what color is that last one; looks titanium to me. Kinda > nice. I think I may see one of these in my future? > > Walt > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Pasvorn Boonmark > wrote: >> Wow, on the Pentax K-x site in Japan, they show 20 body colors + 5 grip >> colors. >> http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-x/ >> >> Love it. LOL. >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark >> wrote: >>> My DL is getting beat up. I most likely will get a K-x. >>> >>> May be a white one. :) >>> >>> -Pasvorn >>> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bong Manayon wrote: K-x? After the K-m? Should we expect a K-2 later? They've done digits and they are well into single letters, so perhaps they'll go full circle back to punctuation? K-* *ist revisted. K-! a superlative camera Or maybe add on more letters ... K-os applies random filters to get a Polaroid feel -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> Bong Manayon wrote: >> K-x? After the K-m? Should we expect a K-2 later? > > They've done digits and they are well into single letters, so perhaps > they'll go full circle back to punctuation? > > K-* *ist revisted. > > K-! a superlative camera > > Or maybe add on more letters ... > > K-os applies random filters to get a Polaroid feel Or the KO - a real knockout! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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More like K-? we really have no idea, what to market next But K-x, with 100 different versions of the same camera, it will be a real PIA for camera retailers. "Oh, it's a crappy shop, they even don't have a yellowish-blue version in their stock..." BR, Margus Bruce Walker wrote: Bong Manayon wrote: K-x? After the K-m? Should we expect a K-2 later? They've done digits and they are well into single letters, so perhaps they'll go full circle back to punctuation? K-* *ist revisted. K-! a superlative camera Or maybe add on more letters ... K-os applies random filters to get a Polaroid feel -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The good news is that the German army won't have to special order Leica's any more, they can get military Pentax's right off the shelf. AlunFoto wrote: lol Order it in these colours, and you'd have to be careful about dropping it in the grass... http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-x/#/simulator/040101 2009/9/17 Pasvorn Boonmark : Wow, on the Pentax K-x site in Japan, they show 20 body colors + 5 grip colors. http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-x/ Love it. LOL. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark wrote: My DL is getting beat up. I most likely will get a K-x. May be a white one. :) -Pasvorn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Introduction price point and the fact that DP Review's preview says it's a K2000 replacement says otherwise, (at least I think it was DP review, it may have been OK1000 or one of the other sites I read when I woke up at 4:00AM and couldn't get back to sleep). Adam Maas wrote: Nope, it's very definitely a K200D replacement. It outspecifies the K200D in every way except sealing and fixes the one real issue the K200D had (buffer spec). The K-m will no doubt drop a bit in price though. -Adam On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 6:32 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: It looks like the K-x is a replacement for the K2000/K-m leaving the K-200D slot open. One more shoe to drop maybe. eckinator wrote: It will be a big hit with many people. Plus soon to come color matching lenses. I'm glad they didn't make user changeable covers for the next wave of plastic junk. Specs look like an improvement over the K-m though. One more: K-Pax - thought controlled camera ]=) Now could Pentax please give us a camo K-7 and matching DA* and WR lenses? Cheers Ecke 2009/9/17 Pasvorn Boonmark : Wow, on the Pentax K-x site in Japan, they show 20 body colors + 5 grip colors. http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-x/ Love it. LOL. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark wrote: My DL is getting beat up. I most likely will get a K-x. May be a white one. :) -Pasvorn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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$650US with kit lens. Daniel J. Matyola wrote: What is the price? Dan On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Walter Hamler wrote: Yes, and what color is that last one; looks titanium to me. Kinda nice. I think I may see one of these in my future? Walt On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Pasvorn Boonmark wrote: Wow, on the Pentax K-x site in Japan, they show 20 body colors + 5 grip colors. http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-x/ Love it. LOL. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark wrote: My DL is getting beat up. I most likely will get a K-x. May be a white one. :) -Pasvorn -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It'll be like shoe shopping. If the color you want isn't in stock they'll order if for you. Hell, I haven't seen a Pentax camera in a shop, or big box store for that matter, around here in about a year. Margus Männik wrote: More like K-? we really have no idea, what to market next But K-x, with 100 different versions of the same camera, it will be a real PIA for camera retailers. "Oh, it's a crappy shop, they even don't have a yellowish-blue version in their stock..." BR, Margus Bruce Walker wrote: Bong Manayon wrote: K-x? After the K-m? Should we expect a K-2 later? They've done digits and they are well into single letters, so perhaps they'll go full circle back to punctuation? K-* *ist revisted. K-! a superlative camera Or maybe add on more letters ... K-os applies random filters to get a Polaroid feel -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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No, they will sell you an another (brand) camera. Exactly the same as with shoes. Seems that Pentax market position is much different here. All our larger retailers DO have Pentax equipment. Even the small ones offer you at least K-m and/or couple of compacts. Magic? No, our largest retailer is simply an official Pentax partner... BR, Margus P. J. Alling wrote: It'll be like shoe shopping. If the color you want isn't in stock they'll order if for you. Hell, I haven't seen a Pentax camera in a shop, or big box store for that matter, around here in about a year. Margus Männik wrote: More like K-? we really have no idea, what to market next But K-x, with 100 different versions of the same camera, it will be a real PIA for camera retailers. "Oh, it's a crappy shop, they even don't have a yellowish-blue version in their stock..." BR, Margus Bruce Walker wrote: Bong Manayon wrote: K-x? After the K-m? Should we expect a K-2 later? They've done digits and they are well into single letters, so perhaps they'll go full circle back to punctuation? K-* *ist revisted. K-! a superlative camera Or maybe add on more letters ... K-os applies random filters to get a Polaroid feel -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Is it just me, or does the K7 now look kind of overpriced, comparing specs? What do all those extra dollars buy you, especially considering that small is a feature and the K-x is ahead on that? -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Tim Bray wrote: > Is it just me, or does the K7 now look kind of overpriced, comparing > specs? What do all those extra dollars buy you, especially > considering that small is a feature and the K-x is ahead on that? -T I agree. The K-x's spec looks really good. Especially when I am still using my DL and love it. I'll use the money I save to by some really good lens. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2009/9/17 : > So, as has been pointed out, someone broke their non-disclosure agreement > and posted the news about the new Pentax K-X online. > >> http://photorumors.com/2009/09/16/breaking-new-pentax-k-x-coming-out-tomorrow/ > > But the NDA officially expired at midnight, so... > > A few hours ago, Pentax put on a big press-conference/party at the > International Center of Photography in New York > (http://www.robertstech.com/blog/photos/gallery14/icp.html). Part of the > presentation was about the new camera (which is pretty amazing: 12MP, HD > Video, 4.7 fps, etc. for $650 with kit lens) but there was a lot more on > the relationship with Hoya, their coming marketing push and more. I'll > post more about this stuff tomorrow. > > I met with John Carlson, director of marketing, whom many of us met at GFM > this year. I also got to meet Ned Bunnell > (http://www.robertstech.com/temp/ned_2.jpg), who was very enthusiastic and > supportive of the PDML Book. Both he and John Carlson were quite > interested in the gallery exhibit that will accompany next year's edition. > (BTW: Rick Womer has made some connections with helpful people at > CureSearch who will be spreading the word about the book more in the near > future.) > > The new K-X probably won't excite the hard-core PDML people, but it looks > like it will be a big seller for Pentax, and the press and dealer > representatives present seemed genuinely excited about it. Many will scoff > at the availability of multiple colors (after the big success of the white > K-2000, the K-X will come in black, white, navy blue and red), but if it > brings in new users to Pentax it will be good for all of us in the long > run. > > More in the morning. I hate to be like this, Mark...but it's already morning...and I want MORE INFO! MUST GET MORE INFO! MUST... -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- http://www.EnticingTheLight.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Look at the other specs. the buffer is much larger on the K-7. The viewfinder is much superior. It's fully sealed, (no mention of seals on the K-x, but the K-m had none, so I'm assuming). Magnesium shell. Focus assist. These things may not mean anything to you but they cost money. There are probably more but those stand out immediately. If they're not important to you, the K-x is available in colors! Tim Bray wrote: Is it just me, or does the K7 now look kind of overpriced, comparing specs? What do all those extra dollars buy you, especially considering that small is a feature and the K-x is ahead on that? -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: New Pentax stuff
Well, we've all been complaining about marketing and look what we got. A nice capable low end DSLR from the engineers, and colors from marketing. Of course, it will sell well because of the colors and then we'll all be mad. ;-) -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:37 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: New Pentax stuff Look at the other specs. the buffer is much larger on the K-7. The viewfinder is much superior. It's fully sealed, (no mention of seals on the K-x, but the K-m had none, so I'm assuming). Magnesium shell. Focus assist. These things may not mean anything to you but they cost money. There are probably more but those stand out immediately. If they're not important to you, the K-x is available in colors! Tim Bray wrote: > Is it just me, or does the K7 now look kind of overpriced, comparing > specs? What do all those extra dollars buy you, especially > considering that small is a feature and the K-x is ahead on that? -T > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > > -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax stuff
On Sep 17, 2009, at 1:23 PM, Tim Bray wrote: Is it just me, or does the K7 now look kind of overpriced, comparing specs? What do all those extra dollars buy you, especially considering that small is a feature and the K-x is ahead on that? -T Metal construction, weather sealing, much more battery capacity, especially with the grip, more resolution, and probably quite a few more frames of functional life. And of course the K7D price is due to drop a bit very soon. That's the way the camera biz works. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax stuff
K-x is NOT sealed. J --- On Thu, 9/17/09, P. J. Alling wrote: > From: P. J. Alling > Subject: Re: New Pentax stuff > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 10:36 AM > Look at the other specs. the buffer > is much larger on the K-7. The viewfinder is much > superior. It's fully sealed, (no mention of seals on > the K-x, but the K-m had none, so I'm assuming). > Magnesium shell. Focus assist. These things may not mean > anything to you but they cost money. There are > probably more but those stand out immediately. If > they're not important to you, the K-x is available in > colors! > > Tim Bray wrote: > > Is it just me, or does the K7 now look kind of > overpriced, comparing > > specs? What do all those extra dollars buy you, > especially > > considering that small is a feature and the K-x is > ahead on that? -T > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > > > > > > > -- > > The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with > either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with > gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he > might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is > not a free man any more than a dog. > > --G. K. Chesterton > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: New Pentax stuff
Ooh, look, the color ranking page http://www.camera-pentax.jp/k-x/#/ranking Black on black is 10th. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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m...@robertstech.com wrote: > Before long we'll probably see lots of DSLR's available in a choice of > colors, just like MP3 players, cell phones, etc. Most of those variegated beasties have simple, replaceable, clip-on covers.. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: New Pentax stuff
-Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 3:46 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: New Pentax stuff m...@robertstech.com wrote: > Before long we'll probably see lots of DSLR's available in a choice of > colors, just like MP3 players, cell phones, etc. Most of those variegated beasties have simple, replaceable, clip-on covers.. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax stuff
You know, everyone laughed when Apple introduced the lollipop colored iMac ... Saved the company, even though they now look terribly dated and old fashioned. ... Bring on the translucent plastic! ... -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax stuff
Desjardins, Steve wrote: -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 3:46 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: New Pentax stuff m...@robertstech.com wrote: Before long we'll probably see lots of DSLR's available in a choice of colors, just like MP3 players, cell phones, etc. Most of those variegated beasties have simple, replaceable, clip-on covers.. What are you trying to say Steve? 8-) I was pointing out that you could have, say, a white and gold camera for your wedding shoot one day and then a camo (desert, jungle, urban, etc) one for some nature shooting the next, followed by a titanium one for club night, at minimal cost. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: New Pentax stuff
It's either: 1. A subtle commentary on the lack of substance of most posts, or 2. I hit the #...@*&%ing send button by accident. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 2:37 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: New Pentax stuff Desjardins, Steve wrote: > > -Original Message- > From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike > wilson > Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 3:46 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: New Pentax stuff > > > m...@robertstech.com wrote: > >>Before long we'll probably see lots of DSLR's available in a choice of >>colors, just like MP3 players, cell phones, etc. > > > Most of those variegated beasties have simple, replaceable, clip-on > covers.. > What are you trying to say Steve? 8-) I was pointing out that you could have, say, a white and gold camera for your wedding shoot one day and then a camo (desert, jungle, urban, etc) one for some nature shooting the next, followed by a titanium one for club night, at minimal cost. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax stuff
We used to have this joke on the late goverment controlled (and owned) Televerket and its steam telephones. “You can get it in any color – as long as it is black.” So why should a DSLR be black? Let steam companies of the Canikon breed have their black bricks as long as they wish. Pentax now offers colors to the people. Let the people rejoice. Long live Pentax. Bertil – who carries a hot pink iPhone You know, everyone laughed when Apple introduced the lollipop colored iMac ... Saved the company, even though they now look terribly dated and old fashioned. ... Bring on the translucent plastic! ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Desjardins, Steve wrote: It's either: 1. A subtle commentary on the lack of substance of most posts, or 2. I hit the #...@*&%ing send button by accident. That's better; Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bertil Holmberg wrote: “You can get it in any color – as long as it is black.” On this side of the pond, that quotation is often attributed to Henry Ford, speaking about the Model A or Model T (I forget which). The way I heard the quotation was "You can get any color you like, as long as it's black." -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax stuff
- Original Message - From: "Doug Franklin" Subject: Re: New Pentax stuff Bertil Holmberg wrote: “You can get it in any color – as long as it is black.” On this side of the pond, that quotation is often attributed to Henry Ford, speaking about the Model A or Model T (I forget which). The way I heard the quotation was "You can get any color you like, as long as it's black." FWIW: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Henry_Ford At least this one has a citation attached. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Desjardins, Steve wrote: . Of course, it will sell well because of the colors Ah, some one else who remembers ~some~ of the 60's. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax Stuff Announced (nothing major)
On 8 February 2011 09:54, John Celio wrote: > Optio WG-1 (replaces the W90, most likely) > http://www.pentaximaging.com/digital-camera/Optio_WG-1_GPS_Yellow_Green/ > > All links found via Dario's posts on Facebook > > > I'm most interested in the WG-1, myself. I've been hoping to get a > waterproof Optio for a long time. Hopefully I'll be able to do that > later this year. It would be quite useful to have a GPS in a Pentax DSLR, I wonder how long it will take. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Pentax Stuff Announced (nothing major)
Yep, the 25mm indeed covers the whole 645 film frame. BTW, just remember it is an SDM only lens (not that it matters so much with such focal length anyway). Price is around 4000 US$ (or was it 3000?), well... one day, maybe ;) 2011/2/7 John Celio : > K-5 Silver > http://www.pentaximaging.com/slr/K-5_Silver/ > > 645d 25mm lens (compatible with 645 film bodies) > http://www.pentaximaging.com/camera-lenses/smc_PENTAX_D_FA_645_25mm_F4_AL_(IF)_SDM_AW/ > > Optio WG-1 (replaces the W90, most likely) > http://www.pentaximaging.com/digital-camera/Optio_WG-1_GPS_Yellow_Green/ > > All links found via Dario's posts on Facebook > > > I'm most interested in the WG-1, myself. I've been hoping to get a > waterproof Optio for a long time. Hopefully I'll be able to do that > later this year. > > John > > -- > http://www.jacelio.com > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13" Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GPS in Pentax DSLR [Re: New Pentax Stuff Announced (nothing major)]
On 11-02-08 6:42 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 8 February 2011 09:54, John Celio wrote: Optio WG-1 (replaces the W90, most likely) http://www.pentaximaging.com/digital-camera/Optio_WG-1_GPS_Yellow_Green/ All links found via Dario's posts on Facebook I'm most interested in the WG-1, myself. I've been hoping to get a waterproof Optio for a long time. Hopefully I'll be able to do that later this year. It would be quite useful to have a GPS in a Pentax DSLR, I wonder how long it will take. Actually, you can have that now if you pop in an Eye-Fi Pro X2 8GB SDHC card. Has a built-in GPS, as well as the WiFi that is its primary function. Street price about $120. http://www.eye.fi/products/prox2 I'm considering one because it can be used in a wireless tethering setup directly to Lightroom. Perfect for studio shooting. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GPS in Pentax DSLR [Re: New Pentax Stuff Announced (nothing major)]
This coule be cheaper... but test it before ;) https://sites.google.com/a/pentax.org.pl/tomaszkos/en/pk_tether 2011/2/8 Bruce Walker : > On 11-02-08 6:42 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: >> >> On 8 February 2011 09:54, John Celio wrote: >> >>> Optio WG-1 (replaces the W90, most likely) >>> http://www.pentaximaging.com/digital-camera/Optio_WG-1_GPS_Yellow_Green/ >>> >>> All links found via Dario's posts on Facebook >>> >>> I'm most interested in the WG-1, myself. I've been hoping to get a >>> waterproof Optio for a long time. Hopefully I'll be able to do that >>> later this year. >> >> It would be quite useful to have a GPS in a Pentax DSLR, I wonder how >> long it will take. > > Actually, you can have that now if you pop in an Eye-Fi Pro X2 8GB SDHC > card. Has a built-in GPS, as well as the WiFi that is its primary function. > Street price about $120. > http://www.eye.fi/products/prox2 > > I'm considering one because it can be used in a wireless tethering setup > directly to Lightroom. Perfect for studio shooting. > > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13" Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GPS in Pentax DSLR [Re: New Pentax Stuff Announced (nothing major)]
Be aware, though, that they are battery hogs. Big time. (this from personal experience) Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose" -- Jim Elliott >-Original Message- >From: Bruce Walker [mailto:bruce.wal...@gmail.com] >Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2011 08:49 AM >To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >Subject: GPS in Pentax DSLR [Re: New Pentax Stuff Announced (nothing major)] > >On 11-02-08 6:42 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: >> On 8 February 2011 09:54, John Celio wrote: >> >>> Optio WG-1 (replaces the W90, most likely) >>> http://www.pentaximaging.com/digital-camera/Optio_WG-1_GPS_Yellow_Green/ >>> >>> All links found via Dario's posts on Facebook >>> >>> I'm most interested in the WG-1, myself. I've been hoping to get a >>> waterproof Optio for a long time. Hopefully I'll be able to do that >>> later this year. >> It would be quite useful to have a GPS in a Pentax DSLR, I wonder how >> long it will take. > >Actually, you can have that now if you pop in an Eye-Fi Pro X2 8GB SDHC >card. Has a built-in GPS, as well as the WiFi that is its primary >function. Street price about $120. >http://www.eye.fi/products/prox2 > >I'm considering one because it can be used in a wireless tethering setup >directly to Lightroom. Perfect for studio shooting. > >-bmw > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GPS in Pentax DSLR [Re: New Pentax Stuff Announced (nothing major)]
On 11-02-08 9:07 AM, Thibouille wrote: This coule be cheaper... but test it before ;) https://sites.google.com/a/pentax.org.pl/tomaszkos/en/pk_tether Yes thanks, I looked at that project, but I prefer the WiFi solution for three reasons: - no wires to get tangled or trip me - WiFi is much, *much* speedier than USB - pk_tether is Windows-only -bmw 2011/2/8 Bruce Walker: On 11-02-08 6:42 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 8 February 2011 09:54, John Celiowrote: Optio WG-1 (replaces the W90, most likely) http://www.pentaximaging.com/digital-camera/Optio_WG-1_GPS_Yellow_Green/ All links found via Dario's posts on Facebook I'm most interested in the WG-1, myself. I've been hoping to get a waterproof Optio for a long time. Hopefully I'll be able to do that later this year. It would be quite useful to have a GPS in a Pentax DSLR, I wonder how long it will take. Actually, you can have that now if you pop in an Eye-Fi Pro X2 8GB SDHC card. Has a built-in GPS, as well as the WiFi that is its primary function. Street price about $120. http://www.eye.fi/products/prox2 I'm considering one because it can be used in a wireless tethering setup directly to Lightroom. Perfect for studio shooting. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11-02-08 9:27 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Be aware, though, that they are battery hogs. Big time. (this from personal experience) Can the WiFi stuff can be disabled (ie powered-off, like in an iPod Touch) when shooting in the field where all you need is the GPS function? Or is the GPS h/w itself the battery hog? -bmw Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose" -- Jim Elliott -Original Message- From: Bruce Walker [mailto:bruce.wal...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2011 08:49 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: GPS in Pentax DSLR [Re: New Pentax Stuff Announced (nothing major)] On 11-02-08 6:42 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 8 February 2011 09:54, John Celio wrote: Optio WG-1 (replaces the W90, most likely) http://www.pentaximaging.com/digital-camera/Optio_WG-1_GPS_Yellow_Green/ All links found via Dario's posts on Facebook I'm most interested in the WG-1, myself. I've been hoping to get a waterproof Optio for a long time. Hopefully I'll be able to do that later this year. It would be quite useful to have a GPS in a Pentax DSLR, I wonder how long it will take. Actually, you can have that now if you pop in an Eye-Fi Pro X2 8GB SDHC card. Has a built-in GPS, as well as the WiFi that is its primary function. Street price about $120. http://www.eye.fi/products/prox2 I'm considering one because it can be used in a wireless tethering setup directly to Lightroom. Perfect for studio shooting. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 8 February 2011 14:33, Bruce Walker wrote: > On 11-02-08 9:27 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: >> >> Be aware, though, that they are battery hogs. >> Big time. >> (this from personal experience) > > Can the WiFi stuff can be disabled (ie powered-off, like in an iPod Touch) > when shooting in the field where all you need is the GPS function? Or is > the GPS h/w itself the battery hog? There is no GPS hardware. The following is verbatim from their website: "The geotagging feature uses Wi-Fi Positioning Service (WPS) technology to tag your photos with geolocation information." -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11-02-08 9:37 AM, Eric Featherstone wrote: On 8 February 2011 14:33, Bruce Walker wrote: On 11-02-08 9:27 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: Be aware, though, that they are battery hogs. Big time. (this from personal experience) Can the WiFi stuff can be disabled (ie powered-off, like in an iPod Touch) when shooting in the field where all you need is the GPS function? Or is the GPS h/w itself the battery hog? There is no GPS hardware. The following is verbatim from their website: "The geotagging feature uses Wi-Fi Positioning Service (WPS) technology to tag your photos with geolocation information." Aha! Only ever so slightly fraudulent then. :-) Thanks for pointing that out. I thought it might be too good to be true; I couldn't imagine how they'd pack enough antenna in there to pick up the GPS signals. Pseudo-GPS is actually not very useful in a home studio where one probably doesn't move around very far. And I never mark location info on any of my shots that I take at home anyway as I don't want that info finding its way onto the net. Well, I guess we're back at Rob Studdert's original lament of no GPS in a Pentax body. Sorry, Rob. :-) -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2011/2/8 Bruce Walker : > > Actually, you can have that now if you pop in an Eye-Fi Pro X2 8GB > SDHC > card. Has a built-in GPS, as well as the WiFi that is its primary > function. > Street price about $120. > http://www.eye.fi/products/prox2 > > I'm considering one because it can be used in a wireless tethering > setup > directly to Lightroom. Perfect for studio shooting. > It is not a GPS. It's a WPS (Wi-fi Positioning System): http://www.eye.fi/how-it-works/features/geotagging I am not sure how accurate and reliable that is... And it relies on Wi-Fi presense.. So, if you shoot in Houston that doesn't have a free WiFi at the airport, and then fly to Boston which airport does have one, the photos will be tagged as being taken in Boston, if at all. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2011/2/8 Bruce Walker : > - WiFi is much, *much* speedier than USB Are you sure, Bruce? The card is specified to utilise the 802.11n WiFi standard, which according to Wikipedia will give 100 Mbit/s. AFAIK, the USB2 supports 480 Mbit/s. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thouse from Houston won't be tagged, those from Boston will tagged but how? Geoloc on the net is AFAIK VERY imprecise. If it is just to get the town name, not very useful, really. 2011/2/8 Igor Roshchin : > > > 2011/2/8 Bruce Walker : >> >> Actually, you can have that now if you pop in an Eye-Fi Pro X2 8GB >> SDHC >> card. Has a built-in GPS, as well as the WiFi that is its primary >> function. >> Street price about $120. >> http://www.eye.fi/products/prox2 >> >> I'm considering one because it can be used in a wireless tethering >> setup >> directly to Lightroom. Perfect for studio shooting. >> > > It is not a GPS. > It's a WPS (Wi-fi Positioning System): > http://www.eye.fi/how-it-works/features/geotagging > > I am not sure how accurate and reliable that is... > And it relies on Wi-Fi presense.. > > So, if you shoot in Houston that doesn't have a free WiFi at the > airport, and then fly to Boston which airport does have one, > the photos will be tagged as being taken in Boston, if at all. > > Igor > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13" Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fsourceforge.net%2Fprojects%2Fpkremote%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeNY2p55vkIKITaYpYKXLYWqBr6cw Linux as well for PKRemote but does it support all cameras I dunno. 2011/2/8 Bruce Walker : > On 11-02-08 9:07 AM, Thibouille wrote: >> >> This coule be cheaper... but test it before ;) >> https://sites.google.com/a/pentax.org.pl/tomaszkos/en/pk_tether > > Yes thanks, I looked at that project, but I prefer the WiFi solution for > three reasons: > - no wires to get tangled or trip me > - WiFi is much, *much* speedier than USB > - pk_tether is Windows-only > > -bmw > >> 2011/2/8 Bruce Walker: >>> >>> On 11-02-08 6:42 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 8 February 2011 09:54, John Celio wrote: > Optio WG-1 (replaces the W90, most likely) > > http://www.pentaximaging.com/digital-camera/Optio_WG-1_GPS_Yellow_Green/ > > All links found via Dario's posts on Facebook > > I'm most interested in the WG-1, myself. I've been hoping to get a > waterproof Optio for a long time. Hopefully I'll be able to do that > later this year. It would be quite useful to have a GPS in a Pentax DSLR, I wonder how long it will take. >>> >>> Actually, you can have that now if you pop in an Eye-Fi Pro X2 8GB SDHC >>> card. Has a built-in GPS, as well as the WiFi that is its primary >>> function. >>> Street price about $120. >>> http://www.eye.fi/products/prox2 >>> >>> I'm considering one because it can be used in a wireless tethering setup >>> directly to Lightroom. Perfect for studio shooting. >>> >>> -bmw >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13" Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's not really how it works. Eye-fi uses skyhook's database. There's an explanation of how that was created here: http://www.skyhookwireless.com/howitworks/ In Igor's example the photos would be tagged as being taken in Houston, even though the Wi-Fi wasn't free. All eye-fi needs is the Wi-Fi hotspot's SSID to determine location. At least, as far as I understand it. Eric. On 8 February 2011 15:15, Thibouille wrote: > Thouse from Houston won't be tagged, those from Boston will tagged but how? > Geoloc on the net is AFAIK VERY imprecise. If it is just to get the > town name, not very useful, really. > > 2011/2/8 Igor Roshchin : >> >> >> 2011/2/8 Bruce Walker : >>> >>> Actually, you can have that now if you pop in an Eye-Fi Pro X2 8GB >>> SDHC >>> card. Has a built-in GPS, as well as the WiFi that is its primary >>> function. >>> Street price about $120. >>> http://www.eye.fi/products/prox2 >>> >>> I'm considering one because it can be used in a wireless tethering >>> setup >>> directly to Lightroom. Perfect for studio shooting. >>> >> >> It is not a GPS. >> It's a WPS (Wi-fi Positioning System): >> http://www.eye.fi/how-it-works/features/geotagging >> >> I am not sure how accurate and reliable that is... >> And it relies on Wi-Fi presense.. >> >> So, if you shoot in Houston that doesn't have a free WiFi at the >> airport, and then fly to Boston which airport does have one, >> the photos will be tagged as being taken in Boston, if at all. >> >> Igor -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Bruce Walker On 11-02-08 9:27 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > Be aware, though, that they are battery hogs. > Big time. > (this from personal experience) Can the WiFi stuff can be disabled (ie powered-off, like in an iPod Touch) when shooting in the field where all you need is the GPS function? Or is the GPS h/w itself the battery hog? http://preview.tinyurl.com/34blok2 Looking through the web site (which sucks BTW) I found that it's not really GPS. It's something called WPS that uses nearby wi-fi networks to generate the location data. It captures data on nearby accessable wi-fi MAC addresses and adds them to the photo for uploading to Eye-fi's site. Once the photo is uploaded to their site, the MAC addresses are compared to the "known locations" of MAC addresses in their database and the long/lat are triangulated from those and downloaded to the card in the camera for addition to the EXIF. So I guess the answer to your question is the wi-fi can't be turned off independently and the "GPS" itself is the battery hog. Skyhook's coverage map: http://www.skyhookwireless.com/howitworks/coverage.php - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3429 - Release Date: 02/07/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11-02-08 10:22 AM, AlunFoto wrote: 2011/2/8 Bruce Walker: - WiFi is much, *much* speedier than USB Are you sure, Bruce? The card is specified to utilise the 802.11n WiFi standard, which according to Wikipedia will give 100 Mbit/s. AFAIK, the USB2 supports 480 Mbit/s. Jostein The wires support 480Mbps, yes, but once you load up the entire USB driver stack the resulting actual in-use speed is much less than that. Have you ever timed USB2 xfers? One word for them: abysmal. Compare copying raw image files via USB2 to a disk versus, eg, over Firewire 400 to the same disk. After having tried it, I would never again use an external USB2 drive for attached storage. It's ok for doing backups over, but it is completely out of the league of eSATA and Firewire. True, my estimation of the achievable WiFi speed is based on my own use of it around the house, but also from seeing a video demonstration of a 645D user xferring raw shots to LR via that card. This photog was sending full raw 645D shots to Lightroom in about 5 seconds or less. It takes a second or two for each of my much smaller K20D shots to copy from the SDHC card to the iMac through a USB2 card reader. 645D Eye-Fi tethering demo ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY6GdxDyP1w -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Feb 8, 2011, at 9:15, Thibouille wrote: > Thouse from Houston won't be tagged, those from Boston will tagged but how? > Geoloc on the net is AFAIK VERY imprecise. If it is just to get the > town name, not very useful, really. > ..and it really only gives you the position of your access provider. Any "auto-locate" software which I run while at my house tells me I'm in a suburb 20 miles away... because that's the data center for my ISP. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The Houston photos should be tagged as well. It doesn't seem like it requires login to the wi-fi network to capture the address Eye-fi uses to generate location data. The network's address just has to be in Skyhook's database. From: Thibouille Thouse from Houston won't be tagged, those from Boston will tagged but how? Geoloc on the net is AFAIK VERY imprecise. If it is just to get the town name, not very useful, really. 2011/2/8 Igor Roshchin : > > > 2011/2/8 Bruce Walker : >> >> Actually, you can have that now if you pop in an Eye-Fi Pro X2 8GB >> SDHC >> card. Has a built-in GPS, as well as the WiFi that is its primary >> function. >> Street price about $120. >> http://www.eye.fi/products/prox2 >> >> I'm considering one because it can be used in a wireless tethering >> setup >> directly to Lightroom. Perfect for studio shooting. >> > > It is not a GPS. > It's a WPS (Wi-fi Positioning System): > http://www.eye.fi/how-it-works/features/geotagging > > I am not sure how accurate and reliable that is... > And it relies on Wi-Fi presense.. > > So, if you shoot in Houston that doesn't have a free WiFi at the > airport, and then fly to Boston which airport does have one, > the photos will be tagged as being taken in Boston, if at all. > > Igor > > - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3429 - Release Date: 02/07/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 09:47:39AM -0600, Charles Robinson wrote: > On Feb 8, 2011, at 9:15, Thibouille wrote: > > > Thouse from Houston won't be tagged, those from Boston will tagged but how? > > Geoloc on the net is AFAIK VERY imprecise. If it is just to get the > > town name, not very useful, really. > > > > ..and it really only gives you the position of your access provider. > > Any "auto-locate" software which I run while at my house tells me I'm in a > suburb 20 miles away... because that's the data center for my ISP. > > -Charles I believe you're confusing two different technologies. One is based on IP address - that's the one that returns the position of your ISP. The other - the one that SkyHook uses - is based on a proprietary database that contains actual positions for W-Fi hotspots, cell towers, etc. I suspect this is the sort of data that Google were trying to collect when they recorded data from wireless networks (and got themselves into a whole lot of trouble for violating privacy laws). If you drive past my house, you'll see the SSID of my wireless network. That's probably in SkyHooks database, tied to my actual street address. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2011/2/8 Bruce Walker : > The wires support 480Mbps, yes, but once you load up the entire USB driver > stack the resulting actual in-use speed is much less than that. Have you > ever timed USB2 xfers? One word for them: abysmal. Call them what you like, Bruce... :-) We are in agreement over the relative transfer rates of USB2 and FireWire. > True, my estimation of the achievable WiFi speed is based on my own use of > it around the house, You have 802.11n base stations? Cool. :-) Only up to the g spec myself yet. However I find that the throughput is far less than the theoretical max for the protocol. When copying files from my laptop to the PC, connecting through the wireless network is just not an option. _that_ speed is abysmal. :-) > but also from seeing a video demonstration of a 645D > user xferring raw shots to LR via that card. This photog was sending full > raw 645D shots to Lightroom in about 5 seconds or less. It takes a second or > two for each of my much smaller K20D shots to copy from the SDHC card to the > iMac through a USB2 card reader. Hmmm... The 645D raw files are 45-60 MB. To send a 50 MB file to LR in five seconds, you got to move 10 MB/s (80 Mbit/s). That's within the theoretical speed ceiling of 802.11n, but with full signal quality and no packet loss it can take only 20% overhead. I'm no expert on network protocol overhead, but it sounds like a tight fit even on a good day. Another limiter is that would require a SDHC card with minimum Class 10 speed rating. The EyeFi "Pro" card is Class 6. It's kinda hard to catch what the guy in the video is saying, but my impression is that the five second uploads are from jpegs. I also get the impression that he change to raw files about 3 minutes into the video. The upload times are considerably longer then. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Feb 8, 2011, at 11:12, John Francis wrote: > On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 09:47:39AM -0600, Charles Robinson wrote: >> >> ..and it really only gives you the position of your access provider. >> >> Any "auto-locate" software which I run while at my house tells me I'm in a >> suburb 20 miles away... because that's the data center for my ISP. >> >> -Charles > > I believe you're confusing two different technologies. > You're right. I'd never heard of "Skyhook" before - if I'd read the entire thread before adding my two cents, I wouldn't have added my two cents! :-) -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11-02-08 12:19 PM, AlunFoto wrote: However I find that the throughput is far less than the theoretical max for the protocol. When copying files from my laptop to the PC, connecting through the wireless network is just not an option. _that_ speed is abysmal. :-) Yeah, WiFi can be terrible. But without interference and with decent hardware it can be really good and will approach the theoretical throughput. That said, I took my wife's iMac off WiFi and hardwired it last year to solve several problems including interference with a neighbor two houses away. :-( Hmmm... The 645D raw files are 45-60 MB. To send a 50 MB file to LR in five seconds, you got to move 10 MB/s (80 Mbit/s). That's within the theoretical speed ceiling of 802.11n, but with full signal quality and no packet loss it can take only 20% overhead. I'm no expert on network protocol overhead, but it sounds like a tight fit even on a good day. Another limiter is that would require a SDHC card with minimum Class 10 speed rating. The EyeFi "Pro" card is Class 6. Well, you've beaten me with your superior math skillz there, Jostein. :-) I have to agree that if nothing else, the Class 6 rating will limit this. But still, a typical PEF file should xfer in about one second, which ain't too bad. It's kinda hard to catch what the guy in the video is saying, but my impression is that the five second uploads are from jpegs. I also get the impression that he change to raw files about 3 minutes into the video. The upload times are considerably longer then. Jostein I suspect you are right about that. So, I'll concede that USB2 tethering may be about the same speed-wise as WiFi tethering, and depending on many factors might be faster, especially when one of the notorious WiFi problems pops up. But I still like "no wires"! :-) -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GPS in Pentax DSLR [Re: New Pentax Stuff Announced (nothing major)]
On 8 February 2011 17:19, AlunFoto wrote: > It's kinda hard to catch what the guy in the video is saying, but > my impression is that the five second uploads are from jpegs. I also > get the impression that he change to raw files about 3 minutes into > the video. The upload times are considerably longer then. Nearly but not quite; he's shooting jpegs throughout. He changes from "lightest" jpeg setting to "heaviest" jpeg setting about 3 minutes in. I'd assumed at first that he meant the jpeg compression setting, but then near the end in Lightroom he's flipping between to photos of different _resolution_. -- Eric -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GPS in Pentax DSLR [Re: New Pentax Stuff Announced (nothing major)]
Alright, but if said changes or access point moves or there's no access point in sight it is useless. Le mardi 8 février 2011, John Francis a écrit : > On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 09:47:39AM -0600, Charles Robinson wrote: >> On Feb 8, 2011, at 9:15, Thibouille wrote: >> >> > Thouse from Houston won't be tagged, those from Boston will tagged but how? >> > Geoloc on the net is AFAIK VERY imprecise. If it is just to get the >> > town name, not very useful, really. >> > >> >> ..and it really only gives you the position of your access provider. >> >> Any "auto-locate" software which I run while at my house tells me I'm in a >> suburb 20 miles away... because that's the data center for my ISP. >> >> -Charles > > I believe you're confusing two different technologies. > > One is based on IP address - that's the one that returns the position > of your ISP. The other - the one that SkyHook uses - is based on a > proprietary database that contains actual positions for W-Fi hotspots, > cell towers, etc. I suspect this is the sort of data that Google were > trying to collect when they recorded data from wireless networks (and > got themselves into a whole lot of trouble for violating privacy laws). > > If you drive past my house, you'll see the SSID of my wireless network. > That's probably in SkyHooks database, tied to my actual street address. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ KX, MX, SuperA+Motor, Z1, P30 Mamiya C330+80/2.8 Sekonic L-208 FalconEyes TE300D x2 Studio flashes Laptop: Macbook 13" Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GPS in Pentax DSLR [Re: New Pentax Stuff Announced (nothing major)]
2011/2/8 Bruce Walker : > > Well, you've beaten me with your superior math skillz there, Jostein. :-) I A first for me, I think. :-) > But I still like "no wires"! :-) It's definately less hassle. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GPS in Pentax DSLR [Re: New Pentax Stuff Announced (nothing major)]
On 2011-02-08 13:57 , Thibouille wrote: Alright, but if said changes or access point moves or there's no access point in sight it is useless. in most urban locations there are multiple access points in range so it's not too hard for Skyhook to figure out that one is no longer where it used to be; there can be errors, but given that this is the system my 28-month-old iPhone has been using (along with GPS), i can vouch for its accuracy in appropriate locations (i can tell when it's using only GPS as it takes much longer to narrow down my location); newer Apple phones don't use Skyhook, but they use the same principle (Apple simply uses its own database of wifi locations instead) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GPS in Pentax DSLR [Re: New Pentax Stuff Announced (nothing major)]
On 9 February 2011 04:19, AlunFoto wrote: > You have 802.11n base stations? Cool. :-) > Only up to the g spec myself yet. > > However I find that the throughput is far less than the theoretical > max for the protocol. When copying files from my laptop to the PC, > connecting through the wireless network is just not an option. _that_ > speed is abysmal. :-) I've only got a g network too at the moment but my wired LAN has been GB for years, the 802.11g comes now where near it in transfer speed, I suspect that the overheads are far greater too. On the desktop I think transfer speed has a lot to do with hardware and system software, on the best systems there is little speed difference between FW400 (FW800 is a rarity) and USB2 (I have both on all my desktop machines) but eSATA eats both of course (I have a few external drives with eSATA, USB2 and FW400 so it's pretty easy to compare). -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GPS in Pentax DSLR [Re: New Pentax Stuff Announced (nothing major)]
On 9 February 2011 01:53, Bruce Walker wrote: > Well, I guess we're back at Rob Studdert's original lament of no GPS in a > Pentax body. Sorry, Rob. :-) No problem, I'm betting that integrating a real GPS module in a DSLR would not add significantly in the cost these days and would be a far more preferable solution. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
