Re: Peso: Duck Soup Redo

2014-01-28 Thread Eactivist
Looks good, Jack. Well it was duck soup, i.e.  foggy.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  Like the title, BTW.

In a message  dated 1/27/2014 11:49:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
jdavi...@yahoo.com  writes:
Marnie, decided to try your Punch Up idea.
Think I rather prefer  this version.

Thanks for  suggestion.

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=751   





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Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: Peso: Duck  Soup

I rather like it, Jack.

Maybe, maybe,  maybe, bump up  the contrast a little.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a  message dated  1/11/2014 9:26:41 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
jdavi...@yahoo.com   writes:


Tried the state wildlife area yesterday. Fog had set in   fairly heavily 
and 
made it a soupy day.
As the fog began to rise a bit,  I  tried some ducks huddled in some tall 
straight grasses.
Messed  with the  composition for some time and finally gave it up feeling 
only  slightly  
satisfied with the result.

Jack

Comments   welcome.

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Re: Peso: Duck Soup Redo

2014-01-28 Thread Jack Davis
Yes! Thanks for comments and, again, for suggestion.
You even got the foggy (soupy) connection.

Jack ;-)




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Subject: Re: Peso: Duck Soup Redo

Looks good, Jack. Well it was duck soup, i.e.  foggy.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  Like the title, BTW.

In a message  dated 1/27/2014 11:49:40 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
jdavi...@yahoo.com  writes:
Marnie, decided to try your Punch Up idea.
Think I rather prefer  this version.

Thanks for  suggestion.

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=751   





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Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: Peso: Duck  Soup

I rather like it, Jack.

Maybe, maybe,  maybe, bump up  the contrast a little.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a  message dated  1/11/2014 9:26:41 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
jdavi...@yahoo.com   writes:


Tried the state wildlife area yesterday. Fog had set in   fairly heavily 
and 
made it a soupy day.
As the fog began to rise a bit,  I  tried some ducks huddled in some tall 
straight grasses.
Messed  with the  composition for some time and finally gave it up feeling 
only  slightly  
satisfied with the result.

Jack

Comments   welcome.

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=750


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Re: Peso: Duck Soup

2014-01-27 Thread Eactivist
I rather like it, Jack.

Maybe, maybe,  maybe, bump up the contrast a little.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a  message dated 1/11/2014 9:26:41 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
jdavi...@yahoo.com  writes:


Tried the state wildlife area yesterday. Fog had set in  fairly heavily and 
made it a soupy day.
As the fog began to rise a bit, I  tried some ducks huddled in some tall 
straight grasses.
Messed with the  composition for some time and finally gave it up feeling 
only slightly  
satisfied with the result.

Jack

Comments  welcome.

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=750


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Re: Peso: Duck Soup

2014-01-27 Thread Jack Davis






Thanks, Marnie!

I like your word, rather. That's, also, about as emphatic as I can get about 
this image.
I'll try punching it up a little. (if I can locate it in the trash bin).

Not that you've indicated such, but this isn't a conversion. Just the way the 
day looked.

Jack




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Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: Peso: Duck Soup


I rather like it, Jack.

Maybe, maybe,  maybe, bump up the contrast a little.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a  message dated 1/11/2014 9:26:41 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
jdavi...@yahoo.com  writes:


Tried the state wildlife area yesterday. Fog had set in  fairly heavily and 
made it a soupy day.
As the fog began to rise a bit, I  tried some ducks huddled in some tall 
straight grasses.
Messed with the  composition for some time and finally gave it up feeling 
only slightly  
satisfied with the result.

Jack

Comments  welcome.

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Re: Peso: Duck Soup Redo

2014-01-27 Thread Jack Davis






Marnie, decided to try your Punch Up idea.
Think I rather prefer this version.

Thanks for suggestion.

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=751  





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Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: Peso: Duck Soup

I rather like it, Jack.

Maybe, maybe,  maybe, bump up the contrast a little.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a  message dated 1/11/2014 9:26:41 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
jdavi...@yahoo.com  writes:


Tried the state wildlife area yesterday. Fog had set in  fairly heavily and 
made it a soupy day.
As the fog began to rise a bit, I  tried some ducks huddled in some tall 
straight grasses.
Messed with the  composition for some time and finally gave it up feeling 
only slightly  
satisfied with the result.

Jack

Comments  welcome.

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Re: PESO -- Duck, Duck, GOOSE?

2010-07-22 Thread Rick Womer
This one made me laugh.  It works.

Rick

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 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 1:37 AM
 Well some time ago I posted a shot
 that I considered something of a failure.  I was
 watching the scene that I wanted to capture come together in
 the viewfinder, when a bystander leaned into the shot,
 realized what he had done, and said Sorry.  Well
 something similar happened again. But this time the culprit
 was one of Frank's Friends.
 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20duckduckgoose.html
 
 Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28-200
 f3.8~5.6.
 
 OK, if it weren't for the title I probably wouldn't have
 bothered to post it.
 
 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
 
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Re: Peso Duck, duck, goose

2009-04-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 G'day dave,

 You've done well.  Panning that 300 can't have been easy. Nice bit of
 blurring on the wings.

Thanks Brian.

Your correct, the 300 is not easy to pan with, but the duck did all the work.:-)

Dave



 Cheers

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 On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 18:09 -0400, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Went for a drive to day. Most of my shots were at the farm, go figure.:-)

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3435273431/

 Crop from original file, done in mac's preview.

 K10D, Sigma 300 F4, severe panning.;-)

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Re: Peso Duck, duck, goose

2009-04-13 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice shot. I'm always surprised that those guys can actually get their  
fat guts off the ground!

Paul
On Apr 13, 2009, at 7:58 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Brian Walters  
supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:

G'day dave,

You've done well.  Panning that 300 can't have been easy. Nice bit of
blurring on the wings.


Thanks Brian.

Your correct, the 300 is not easy to pan with, but the duck did all  
the work.:-)


Dave




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On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 18:09 -0400, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com 


wrote:
Went for a drive to day. Most of my shots were at the farm, go  
figure.:-)


http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3435273431/

Crop from original file, done in mac's preview.

K10D, Sigma 300 F4, severe panning.;-)

Dave

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Re: Peso Duck, duck, goose

2009-04-13 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 6:09 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Went for a drive to day. Most of my shots were at the farm, go figure.:-)

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3435273431/

 Crop from original file, done in mac's preview.

 K10D, Sigma 300 F4, severe panning.;-)

 Dave

Wow, nice shot!

The parts that should be blurry are, the parts that should be sharp are.

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RE: Peso Duck, duck, goose

2009-04-13 Thread John Whittingham
Nice shot, very well captured, great lens IMHO

John

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On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 6:09 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Went for a drive to day. Most of my shots were at the farm, go figure.:-)

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3435273431/

 Crop from original file, done in mac's preview.

 K10D, Sigma 300 F4, severe panning.;-)

 Dave

Wow, nice shot!

The parts that should be blurry are, the parts that should be sharp are.

cheers,
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Re: Peso Duck, duck, goose

2009-04-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 1:17 PM, John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk wrote:
 Nice shot, very well captured, great lens IMHO

 John

Thanks. It's a pretty decent lens. It softens up a bit with the sigma
1.4 on it, so i don't use it much.

Dave
 
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 On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 6:09 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Went for a drive to day. Most of my shots were at the farm, go figure.:-)

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3435273431/

 Crop from original file, done in mac's preview.

 K10D, Sigma 300 F4, severe panning.;-)

 Dave

 Wow, nice shot!

 The parts that should be blurry are, the parts that should be sharp are.

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Re: Peso Duck, duck, goose

2009-04-12 Thread Graydon
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 06:09:29PM -0400, David J Brooks scripsit:
 Went for a drive to day. Most of my shots were at the farm, go figure.:-)
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3435273431/
 
 Crop from original file, done in mac's preview.
 
 K10D, Sigma 300 F4, severe panning.;-)

I should say!

Well done!  Mallards don't fly slow.

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Re: Peso Duck, duck, goose

2009-04-12 Thread Brian Walters
G'day dave,

You've done well.  Panning that 300 can't have been easy. Nice bit of
blurring on the wings.



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On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 18:09 -0400, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
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 Went for a drive to day. Most of my shots were at the farm, go figure.:-)
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/3435273431/
 
 Crop from original file, done in mac's preview.
 
 K10D, Sigma 300 F4, severe panning.;-)
 
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RE: PESO - Duck Train (version b)

2009-04-03 Thread Bob W
 In a message dated 4/2/2009 7:19:56 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
 ann...@nyc.rr.com writes:
 Marnie _ I like the first one a LOT  better..  (duck2 without theb)
 but would just shave off the very  bottom where a few tufts 
 of grass or 
 something is sticking up...
 I like  the flotsam, though and the proportion of  sky to  water...
 
 ann
 
 ===
 Huh. Thanks, ann.
 
 Marnie  :-)  Everyone is all over the place on this one. I 
 will take a second 
  look.
 

There's quite a simple solution to this, Marnie. You can equip everyone's
PCs with a retina scanner. It will feed the viewer's id back to the computer
system that hosts your pictures, and show the version for which they have
previously expressed a preference. Your system's learning engine will
gradually come to understand people's individual preferences, and
automatically crop, filter, skew, adjust or Gaussianly blur as required.

Bob


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Re: PESO - Duck Train (version b)

2009-04-03 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/3/2009 1:58:15 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
p...@web-options.com writes:
 In a message dated 4/2/2009  7:19:56 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
 ann...@nyc.rr.com  writes:
 Marnie _ I like the first one a LOT  better..  (duck2  without theb)
 but would just shave off the very  bottom where a  few tufts 
 of grass or 
 something is sticking up...
 I  like  the flotsam, though and the proportion of  sky to   water...
 
 ann
 
 ===
 Huh. Thanks,  ann.
 
 Marnie  :-)  Everyone is all over the place on  this one. I 
 will take a second 
  look.
  

There's quite a simple solution to this, Marnie. You can equip  everyone's
PCs with a retina scanner. It will feed the viewer's id back to  the computer
system that hosts your pictures, and show the version for which  they have
previously expressed a preference. Your system's learning engine  will
gradually come to understand people's individual preferences,  and
automatically crop, filter, skew, adjust or Gaussianly blur as  required.

Bob

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Actually, I think ann's right.  There is more grass in the water in the 
first. So I'll crop it and stuff to be a  little more like the second.

Marnie :-)  Nyah, too much  trouble. I'll go with what *I*  like.

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Re: PESO - Duck Train II

2009-04-02 Thread Brian Walters
Yeah, I like that - it works well as a sort of panoramic crop.

How big is that wind farm in the background - looks enormous!

Looks like a good spot for bird photography.


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On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:48 -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 See if anyone likes this better.
 
 This has  an odd crop because the bottom was shadow, which didn't add a
 thing.
 
 But  I walked out as far as I wanted, and about as far as I'd go without
 hip  
 boots.
 
 http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/duck3.htm
 
 Comments  welcome.
 
 Marnie aka Doe  :-)  Not that I have hip boots. Also,  those aren't 
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Re: PESO - Duck Train II

2009-04-02 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/2/2009 4:38:41 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
supera1...@fastmail.fm writes:
Yeah, I like that - it works  well as a sort of panoramic crop.

How big is that wind farm in the  background - looks enormous!

Looks like a good spot for bird  photography.


Cheers

Brian


Again, thanks to  those who looked and commented.

Marnie aka Doe :-)


On Wed, 01  Apr 2009 11:48 -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 See if anyone likes this  better.
 
 This has  an odd crop because the bottom was  shadow, which didn't add a
 thing.
 
 But  I walked  out as far as I wanted, and about as far as I'd go without
 hip   
 boots.
 
  http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/duck3.htm
 
  Comments  welcome.
 
 Marnie aka Doe  :-)  Not that  I have hip boots. Also,  those aren't 
  ducks.


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Re: PESO - Duck Train II

2009-04-02 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/2/2009 4:38:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
supera1...@fastmail.fm writes:
Yeah, I like that - it works well as a sort of  panoramic crop.


How big is that wind farm in the background - looks  enormous!


Looks like a good spot for bird  photography.


Cheers

Brian

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It is huge.  Biggest wind farm in California I think. 
 
Not as many birds as there used to be, used to be a lot of ducks. Maybe the  
water has gotten a bit polluted. At various times I have also seen a lot of  
hawks, too.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)
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Re: PESO - Duck Train (version b)

2009-04-02 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/1/2009 12:53:31 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
p...@web-options.com writes:
I think you've missed the  composition a bit there - it doesn't really cohere
properly. Rather than  cloning the thing out you might consider a different
crop. I would start with  a double square and place the horizon line right
along the middle of the  frame, then kind of muck around a bit until it felt
right or I got  bored.

Bob



Thanks to all who looked and  commented.

I think got the most divergent opinions on this photo than any  I have shown 
in some time.

I agree, Bob. Composition is not quite there.  It was much harder getting one 
that direction, no foreground elements.

So  I went back and looked at what I had and came up with this. Same basic 
shot,  same basic direction, but in it the center it sort of rays out.

What do  you think? Better? Slightly  better?

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/duck2b.htm

Original

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/duck2.htm

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Re: PESO - Duck Train (version b)

2009-04-02 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:23 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

 Thanks to all who looked and  commented.

 I think got the most divergent opinions on this photo than any  I have shown
 in some time.

 I agree, Bob. Composition is not quite there.  It was much harder getting one
 that direction, no foreground elements.

 So  I went back and looked at what I had and came up with this. Same basic
 shot,  same basic direction, but in it the center it sort of rays out.

 What do  you think? Better? Slightly  better?

 http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/duck2b.htm

 Original

 http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/duck2.htm

 Anyone  else who wants to chime in too, feel free.

I think version b is a much stronger image - much more impact.

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Re: PESO - Duck Train (version b)

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In a message dated 4/2/2009 11:39:37 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
knarftheria...@gmail.com writes:
I think version b is  a much stronger image - much more  impact.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Duck Train II

2009-04-02 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 02:17:55PM -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 In a message dated 4/2/2009 4:38:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
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 How big is that wind farm in the background - looks  enormous!
 
 Cheers
 
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 It is huge.  Biggest wind farm in California I think. 
  
 Not as many birds as there used to be . . .

No coincidence, I fear.


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Re: PESO - Duck Train II

2009-04-02 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/2/2009 12:09:07 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
jo...@panix.com writes:
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at  02:17:55PM -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 In a message dated 4/2/2009  4:38:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
 supera1...@fastmail.fm  writes:
 
 How big is that wind farm in the background -  looks  enormous!
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
  
 =
 It is huge.  Biggest wind farm in California  I think. 
  
 Not as many birds as there used to be . .  .

No coincidence, I fear.



Yeah, I know. I've  been reading about that. People protesting those big 
blades are taking out too  many birds.

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RE: PESO - Duck Train (version b)

2009-04-02 Thread Bob W
 I think you've missed the  composition a bit there - it 
 doesn't really cohere
 properly. Rather than  cloning the thing out you might 
 consider a different
 crop. I would start with  a double square and place the 
 horizon line right
 along the middle of the  frame, then kind of muck around a 
 bit until it felt
 right or I got  bored.
 
 Bob
 
 
 
 Thanks to all who looked and  commented.
 
 I think got the most divergent opinions on this photo than 
 any  I have shown 
 in some time.
 
 I agree, Bob. Composition is not quite there.  It was much 
 harder getting one 
 that direction, no foreground elements.
 
 So  I went back and looked at what I had and came up with 
 this. Same basic 
 shot,  same basic direction, but in it the center it sort of 
 rays out.
 
 What do  you think? Better? Slightly  better?
 
 http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/duck2b.htm
 

Perfect.

Bob


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Re: PESO - Duck Train (version b)

2009-04-02 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/2/2009 12:16:35 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
p...@web-options.com  writes:
Perfect.

Bob

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RE: PESO - Duck Train II

2009-04-02 Thread Bob W
  It is huge.  Biggest wind farm in California  I think. 
   
  Not as many birds as there used to be . .  .
 
 No coincidence, I fear.
 
 
 
 Yeah, I know. I've  been reading about that. People 
 protesting those big 
 blades are taking out too  many birds.
 

Here in Britain the RSPB, which I think is the world's biggest birding
organisation, is strongly in favour of wind farms. The threat to habitats
globally, and therefore to the birds and other animals, is much greater than
the threat from wind farms, and wind farms can be a significant factor in
reducing dependence on fossil fuels and other major pollutants. OF course,
the wind farms have to be planned properly, taking wildlife into account.
You can't just stick 'em anywhere.

http://www.rspb.org.uk/ourwork/policy/windfarms/index.asp

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Re: PESO - Duck Train (version b)

2009-04-02 Thread Ken Waller

What do  you think? Better? Slightly  better?


Not much. Still too much foreground water !

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In a message dated 4/1/2009 12:53:31 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time,
p...@web-options.com writes:
I think you've missed the  composition a bit there - it doesn't really 
cohere
properly. Rather than  cloning the thing out you might consider a 
different

crop. I would start with  a double square and place the horizon line right
along the middle of the  frame, then kind of muck around a bit until it 
felt

right or I got  bored.

Bob



Thanks to all who looked and  commented.

I think got the most divergent opinions on this photo than any  I have 
shown

in some time.

I agree, Bob. Composition is not quite there.  It was much harder getting 
one

that direction, no foreground elements.

So  I went back and looked at what I had and came up with this. Same basic
shot,  same basic direction, but in it the center it sort of rays out.

What do  you think? Better? Slightly  better?

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/duck2b.htm

Original

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/duck2.htm

Anyone  else who wants to chime in too, feel free.

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Re: PESO - Duck Train (version b)

2009-04-02 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/2/2009 12:30:40 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
kwal...@peoplepc.com writes:
 What do  you  think? Better? Slightly  better?

Not much. Still too much foreground  water !

Kenneth  Waller
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==
Heh. Can't win for  losing. I like the water. I have train close ups, taken 
from a different angle,  but I find them rather boring because not much else is 
going on. I may throw one  up later though.

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Re: PESO - Duck Train II

2009-04-02 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 08:21:54PM +0100, Bob W wrote:
   It is huge.  Biggest wind farm in California  I think. 

   Not as many birds as there used to be . .  .
  
  No coincidence, I fear.
  
  
  
  Yeah, I know. I've  been reading about that. People 
  protesting those big 
  blades are taking out too  many birds.
  
 
 Here in Britain the RSPB, which I think is the world's biggest birding
 organisation, is strongly in favour of wind farms. The threat to habitats
 globally, and therefore to the birds and other animals, is much greater than
 the threat from wind farms, and wind farms can be a significant factor in
 reducing dependence on fossil fuels and other major pollutants. OF course,
 the wind farms have to be planned properly, taking wildlife into account.
 You can't just stick 'em anywhere.

That's the problem. The easiest place for wind farms is often a pass
or somesuch, where the surrounding geography channels the airflow.
Unfortunately that's also quite often the best route for any birds
trying to get from one side of the hills to the other side.

The Altamont Pass in California - not too far from where Marnie was
taking her photographs - is probably one of the most notorious cases.

 http://www.rspb.org.uk/ourwork/policy/windfarms/index.asp
 
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Re: PESO - Duck Train (version b)

2009-04-02 Thread ann sanfedele

Marnie _ I like the first one a LOT better..  (duck2 without theb)
but would just shave off the very bottom where a few tufts of grass or 
something is sticking up...

I like the flotsam, though and the proportion of  sky to water...

ann

Ken Waller wrote:


What do  you think? Better? Slightly  better?



Not much. Still too much foreground water !

Kenneth Waller
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p...@web-options.com writes:
I think you've missed the  composition a bit there - it doesn't 
really cohere
properly. Rather than  cloning the thing out you might consider a 
different
crop. I would start with  a double square and place the horizon line 
right
along the middle of the  frame, then kind of muck around a bit until 
it felt

right or I got  bored.

Bob



Thanks to all who looked and  commented.

I think got the most divergent opinions on this photo than any  I 
have shown

in some time.

I agree, Bob. Composition is not quite there.  It was much harder 
getting one

that direction, no foreground elements.

So  I went back and looked at what I had and came up with this. Same 
basic

shot,  same basic direction, but in it the center it sort of rays out.

What do  you think? Better? Slightly  better?

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/duck2b.htm

Original

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/duck2.htm

Anyone  else who wants to chime in too, feel free.

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Re: PESO - Duck Train (version b)

2009-04-02 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/2/2009 7:19:56 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
ann...@nyc.rr.com writes:
Marnie _ I like the first one a LOT  better..  (duck2 without theb)
but would just shave off the very  bottom where a few tufts of grass or 
something is sticking up...
I like  the flotsam, though and the proportion of  sky to  water...

ann

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Re: PESO - Duck Train

2009-04-01 Thread Bruce Dayton
This one is nice, but not up to the other one.  Is this area heading
down 680 from 80 before getting to Benicia?  It is rather pretty.

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Eac I went back to the Duck Club today and took some  more shots (working up 
to a
Eac Duck Club GESO).

Eac There was another train  there today -- an older train. 

Eac Not saying this is as good as the shot  everyone loved, but somewhat nice, 
I
Eac think.

Eac http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/duck2.htm

Eac Should I  clone out the grass at the bottom right? 

Eac Comments not turned  away.

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RE: PESO - Duck Train

2009-04-01 Thread Bob W
 I went back to the Duck Club today and took some  more shots 
 (working up to a 
 Duck Club GESO).
 
 There was another train  there today -- an older train. 
 
 Not saying this is as good as the shot  everyone loved, but 
 somewhat nice, I  
 think.
 
 http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/duck2.htm
 
 Should I  clone out the grass at the bottom right? 
 
 Comments not turned  away.
 
 Marnie aka Doe  :-)

I think you've missed the composition a bit there - it doesn't really cohere
properly. Rather than cloning the thing out you might consider a different
crop. I would start with a double square and place the horizon line right
along the middle of the frame, then kind of muck around a bit until it felt
right or I got bored.

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Re: PESO - Duck Train

2009-04-01 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/1/2009 12:37:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
bkday...@daytonphoto.com writes:
This one is nice, but not up to the other  one.  Is this area heading
down 680 from 80 before getting to  Benicia?  It is rather pretty.

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Well, I can't turn out a fantastic photo  every time. ;-)

Yes. And yes, it's a very interesting area.

Thanks for  looking.

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Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 7:34:21 PM,  you wrote:

Eac I went back to the Duck Club today and took some   more shots (working 
up to a
Eac Duck Club GESO).

Eac There was  another train  there today -- an older train. 

Eac Not saying  this is as good as the shot  everyone loved, but somewhat 
nice,  I
Eac think.

Eac  http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/duck2.htm

Eac Should I   clone out the grass at the bottom right? 

Eac Comments not  turned  away.

Eac Marnie aka Doe   :-)


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Re: PESO - Duck Train

2009-04-01 Thread David J Brooks
In my opinion, yes, clone that bit out.

Nice angle on this one.

Dave

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 I went back to the Duck Club today and took some  more shots (working up to a
 Duck Club GESO).

 There was another train  there today -- an older train.

 Not saying this is as good as the shot  everyone loved, but somewhat nice, I
 think.

 http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/duck2.htm

 Should I  clone out the grass at the bottom right?

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Re: PESO - Duck Train II

2009-04-01 Thread Christian

eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

See if anyone likes this better.

This has  an odd crop because the bottom was shadow, which didn't add a thing.

But  I walked out as far as I wanted, and about as far as I'd go without hip  
boots.


http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/duck3.htm

Comments  welcome.

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Re: PESO - Duck Train

2009-04-01 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:34 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 I went back to the Duck Club today and took some  more shots (working up to a
 Duck Club GESO).

 There was another train  there today -- an older train.

 Not saying this is as good as the shot  everyone loved, but somewhat nice, I
 think.

 http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/duck2.htm

 Should I  clone out the grass at the bottom right?

 Comments not turned  away.

I think I'd crop out the clump of grass.  Maybe crop out 1/2 the water
at the bottom.

Mind you that's probably not what you'd like to do, otherwise you
wouldn't be asking about cloning, you'd be asking about a crop.

;-)

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Re: PESO - Duck Train II

2009-04-01 Thread Bruce Dayton
The crop works pretty well.  Train on top left with reflection, wind farm
on top right, birds on bottom right.  I rather like this one.

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Eac See if anyone likes this better.

Eac This has  an odd crop because the bottom was shadow, which didn't add a 
thing.

Eac But  I walked out as far as I wanted, and about as far as I'd go without 
hip
Eac boots.

Eac http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/duck3.htm

Eac Comments  welcome.

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Re: PESO - Duck Train II

2009-04-01 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/1/2009 9:53:03 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
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The crop works pretty  well.  Train on top left with reflection, wind farm
on top right, birds  on bottom right.  I rather like this one.

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Wish someone could tell me what that thing is on top of the  train.

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Eac This  has  an odd crop because the bottom was shadow, which didn't add a 
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Eac But  I walked out as far as I wanted, and about as  far as I'd go 
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Re: PESO - Duck Train II

2009-04-01 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:48 AM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 See if anyone likes this better.

 This has  an odd crop because the bottom was shadow, which didn't add a thing.

 But  I walked out as far as I wanted, and about as far as I'd go without hip
 boots.

 http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/duck3.htm

 Comments  welcome.

I kind of like the balance of this shot.

I also wonder about these train cars.  Almost looks like they're some
sort of trackbed testing cars or something - very weird with them all
lined up like that (in your other shot).  I wonder if they're old
mothballed things or are they just being stored there waiting for
another project?

Bob S. you know lots about trains.  Any thoughts?

But as for the present photo, it's a good one.

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Re: PESO - Duck Train II

2009-04-01 Thread David J Brooks
Works for me Marnie.

Dave

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 See if anyone likes this better.

 This has  an odd crop because the bottom was shadow, which didn't add a thing.

 But  I walked out as far as I wanted, and about as far as I'd go without hip
 boots.

 http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/duck3.htm

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Re: PESO - Duck Train II

2009-04-01 Thread Jack Davis

My that caboose is bristling with hardware stuff (technical term). Water birds 
and marsh offer an interesting contrast. 

Jack



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 See if anyone likes this better.
 
 This has  an odd crop because the bottom was shadow, which
 didn't add a thing.
 
 But  I walked out as far as I wanted, and about as far as
 I'd go without hip  
 boots.
 
 http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/duck3.htm
 
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Re: PESO - Duck Train

2009-04-01 Thread Ken Waller
If you stay with this composition I'd suggest cropping out most of the 
foreground water from just above the bottom of the grass on the LH side. It 
doesn't add a thing IMO.


With that crop, my eye enters the image @ the LLH corner, follows the grass 
line to the URH edge, to the train,  follows the train left to  the base of 
the hill.


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I went back to the Duck Club today and took some  more shots
(working up to a
Duck Club GESO).

There was another train  there today -- an older train.

Not saying this is as good as the shot  everyone loved, but
somewhat nice, I
think.

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/duck2.htm

Should I  clone out the grass at the bottom right?

Comments not turned  away.

Marnie aka Doe  :-)


I think you've missed the composition a bit there - it doesn't really 
cohere

properly. Rather than cloning the thing out you might consider a different
crop. I would start with a double square and place the horizon line right
along the middle of the frame, then kind of muck around a bit until it 
felt

right or I got bored.

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Re: PESO: Duck Armada

2008-05-27 Thread frank theriault
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 Wife and I went to the local lake to have our drive-thru lunch. I had the 
 K10D, with FA 80~320 mounted, due to there always being a variety of living 
 things to consider shooting.
 Thought the formal formation of the duck group interesting.

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This is such a great time of year for these sorts of things.  I'm glad
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Re: PESO: Duck Armada

2008-05-27 Thread Jack Davis
Certainly a pleasant time of year in many respects. 
Thanks for comments, Frank.

Jack


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  Thought the formal formation of the duck group
 interesting.
 
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  Comments welcome.
 
 
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Re: PESO: Duck!

2007-06-09 Thread Cotty
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One's never really alone when one's with one's rubber ducky


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Re: PESO: Duck!

2007-06-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Cotty. One of those things you just can't walk past.
Paul
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 On 8/6/07, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

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 One's never really alone when one's with one's rubber ducky


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Re: PESO: Duck!

2007-06-09 Thread AlunFoto
fun shot paul.

Only one egg that didn't hatch...

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Re: PESO: Duck!

2007-06-09 Thread David J Brooks
Great shot.

I like the odd coloured ones in there for contrast break

Dave

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Re: PESO: Duck!

2007-06-09 Thread Eactivist
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Re: PESO: Duck!

2007-06-09 Thread Christian
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Re: PESO: Duck!

2007-06-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Christain, and Ken, and Marnie, and everyone else who has had  
a look.
Paul
On Jun 9, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Christian wrote:

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Re: PESO: Duck!

2007-06-09 Thread mike wilson
Cotty wrote:

 On 8/6/07, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6065866size=lg
 
 
 One's never really alone when one's with one's rubber ducky
 
 
 Nice shot Paul.
 
 
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Re: PESO: Duck!

2007-06-09 Thread ann sanfedele

Paul Stenquist wrote:

Thanks Cotty. One of those things you just can't walk past.
Paul
On Jun 9, 2007, at 3:41 AM, Cotty wrote:

  

On 8/6/07, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:



http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6065866size=lg
  

One's never really alone when one's with one's rubber ducky


Nice shot Paul.
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Re: PESO: Duck!

2007-06-09 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Well, you won't need model releases for this one ... ;-)
Fun shot!

G

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Re: PESO: Duck!

2007-06-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
You know me too well, Ann:-).
Paul
On Jun 9, 2007, at 6:05 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:


 Paul Stenquist wrote:

 Thanks Cotty. One of those things you just can't walk past.
 Paul
 On Jun 9, 2007, at 3:41 AM, Cotty wrote:



 On 8/6/07, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:



 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6065866size=lg


 One's never really alone when one's with one's rubber ducky


 Nice shot Paul.
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 I concur -
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Re: PESO: Duck!

2007-06-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks, Godders. Yeah, it seems destined for stock. I'm behind on  
that BTW. Gotta get busy.
Paul
On Jun 9, 2007, at 6:26 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Well, you won't need model releases for this one ... ;-)
 Fun shot!

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Re: PESO: Duck!

2007-06-09 Thread Rick Womer
So, what's the story behind this shot?  It's great,
and unusual.

Rick

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Re: PESO: Duck!

2006-10-09 Thread Shel Belinkoff
It might have been a better pic had you been able to get a shot that showed
a pattern amongst the ducks.  As it is, it's just a nice snap of a group of
ducks

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Re: PESO: Duck!

2006-10-09 Thread mike wilson
Not bad for a webshot.
 
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 Yep they're ducks...
 
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Re: PESO: Duck!

2006-10-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
I told them where I wanted them to stand, but they acted like they 
didn't eve hear me:-).
On Oct 9, 2006, at 4:11 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 It might have been a better pic had you been able to get a shot that 
 showed
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Re: PESO: Duck!

2006-10-09 Thread P. J. Alling
You should have tried their native tongue.

Paul Stenquist wrote:

I told them where I wanted them to stand, but they acted like they 
didn't eve hear me:-).
On Oct 9, 2006, at 4:11 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

  

It might have been a better pic had you been able to get a shot that 
showed
a pattern amongst the ducks.  As it is, it's just a nice snap of a 
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Re: PESO: Duck!

2006-10-09 Thread pnstenquist

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 You should have tried their native tongue.

I once tried it in a Chinese restaurant. It was somewhat tough and sinewy. Not 
a lot unlike chicken tongue.

 
 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 I told them where I wanted them to stand, but they acted like they 
 didn't eve hear me:-).
 On Oct 9, 2006, at 4:11 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
   
 
 It might have been a better pic had you been able to get a shot that 
 showed
 a pattern amongst the ducks.  As it is, it's just a nice snap of a 
 group of
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Re: PESO: Duck!

2006-10-09 Thread Russell Kerstetter
I like it, it has a lot of visual interest for me.

russell

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Re: PESO: Duck!

2006-10-09 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Russell. Just a fun pic. I found it slightly humorous, but I'm  
easy:-).
Paul
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 I like it, it has a lot of visual interest for me.

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Re: PESO: Duck!

2006-10-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Yep they're ducks...

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