Re: Peso: What do you mean you need to sit here to work?

[John]

It's not general delivery like we get during the week, they only go to specific 
houses.


I think it has something to do with a contract the Postal Service has with 
UPS/FedEx to handle the final mile of deliveries.


But I don't think that's who he was barking at, 'cause I could hear kids playing 
outside.


On 3/15/2020 18:15:32, P. J. Alling wrote:
It's funny you should mention mailmen not delivering on Sunday, because I saw a 
mail truck delivering mail while walking the dog earlier.  I didn't know that 
they did that anymore.


On 3/15/2020 12:55 PM, John wrote:

I like the calculating expression on her face.

"How many nom-noms will you give me to let you sit here?"

Prince does that too. Just as soon as I get up for any reason, he hops up on 
my "work" chair. He usually gets down as soon as I come back into the room & 
waits for me to sit down so he can get into my lap.


Right now, he's in the living room barking at the mailman through the front 
door. The mailman doesn't deliver on Sunday, but Prince doesn't know that.




On 3/14/2020 20:04:32, ann sanfedele wrote:

Ashley, of course

https://annsan.smugmug.com/The-Kitty-Corner/Ashley-ultimate-alpha-tabby/i-VZxQRxM/A 











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Re: Peso: What do you mean you need to sit here to work?

[P. J. Alling]

It's funny you should mention mailmen not delivering on Sunday, because 
I saw a mail truck delivering mail while walking the dog earlier.  I 
didn't know that they did that anymore.


On 3/15/2020 12:55 PM, John wrote:

I like the calculating expression on her face.

"How many nom-noms will you give me to let you sit here?"

Prince does that too. Just as soon as I get up for any reason, he hops 
up on my "work" chair. He usually gets down as soon as I come back 
into the room & waits for me to sit down so he can get into my lap.


Right now, he's in the living room barking at the mailman through the 
front door. The mailman doesn't deliver on Sunday, but Prince doesn't 
know that.




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Ashley, of course

https://annsan.smugmug.com/The-Kitty-Corner/Ashley-ultimate-alpha-tabby/i-VZxQRxM/A 









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Re: Peso: What do you mean you need to sit here to work?

[ann sanfedele]

I get a bit of that as well!

ann

On 3/15/2020 5:22 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Nice pic, that shows her personality well!

One of our cats would occupy my wife’s chair in our study. When she sat down to 
work, the cat would hop up on the desk and march back and forth across the 
keyboard.




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Ashley, of course

https://annsan.smugmug.com/The-Kitty-Corner/Ashley-ultimate-alpha-tabby/i-VZxQRxM/A



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Re: Peso: What do you mean you need to sit here to work?

[Rick Womer]

Nice pic, that shows her personality well!

One of our cats would occupy my wife’s chair in our study. When she sat down to 
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Re: Peso: What do you mean you need to sit here to work?

[John]

I like the calculating expression on her face.

"How many nom-noms will you give me to let you sit here?"

Prince does that too. Just as soon as I get up for any reason, he hops up on my 
"work" chair. He usually gets down as soon as I come back into the room & waits 
for me to sit down so he can get into my lap.


Right now, he's in the living room barking at the mailman through the front 
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Pretty kitty!

Paul

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Re: Peso: What do you mean you need to sit here to work?

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Cute!
When my son comes to visit, my dog will jump up on the couch where my son
usually sits.  After an appropriate exchange of greetings, he will get back
down.  He just wants Greg to understand that he could demand and keep the
place of honor, if he chose to.

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Re: PESO: What Exit Wine

[P. J. Alling]

Honestly  can't remember the name of the facility or the exact town it 
was in.


All I remember is that it was close enough to the convention center 
where G. H. W. Bush and W. J. Clinton gave campaign speeches, pretty 
much back to back that I had to take two Fridays off to avoid being 
sealed in by both the Secret Service, and horrible traffic.  They 
needless to say both helicoptered in...


I was working through Anderson Consulting at the time, who changed their 
name to Accenture, to protect the guilty, mainly themselves, being 
partly privy to the inside politics between Arthur Andersen and AC was 
interesting and a very long sometimes amusing story.  I was working on 
the SSART (sp? as I said it's been many years), project.  A project 
who's entire premise was that the AC tech team was smarter than anyone 
else, something that's been proven wrong over and over again.   I don't 
think AT ever took over complete maintenance of that system, because 
of it's convoluted design.



On 7/6/2018 12:33 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I am in Somerset County, and I did a lot of work for the old AT in the
1970s and 1980s.  They were my largest single client for years.  Which AT
facility were you working with?  I did a lot of work on the "Long Lines"
facility in Bedminster, and I did the zoning applications for the office
complex off 202/206 in Bridgewater.  Mostly I worked with the facility
managers at Mount Airy Road.  I also represented the company in constuction
litigation.

As far as corruption goes, Sen Menendez, who was prosecuted for corruption
by the Justice Dept under Obama, is running for re-election, and will
undoubtedly win.  It seems NJ alway has one honest Senator and one Crook:
Case/Williams, Bradley /Torricelli, and now Booker/Menedez.

Yes, Somerset, Hunterdon and Morris counties are very nice, contrary to the
general image of New Jersey.

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 6:52 PM, P. J. Alling 
wrote:


I lived in Somerset County for almost a year working on a project for the
"old" AT  There were a lot of members of the team who were commuting
from NY City.  They were amazed at how nice the area was and how
"inexpensive" the rents were for what you got.  None of them moved there
however.  No accounting for taste.  Connecticut was less expensive and just
as nice, and at the time our Government was a bit more honest.  I haven't
kept up on NJ politics, but I think I can safely say the Connecticut is now
more corrupt than NJ was then.



On 7/5/2018 6:31 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Thanks, PJ.  The name of the producer may not be familiar to everyone
here.  New Yawkers look down on us hicks from "Joisy" as they call it .
If
you tell a New Yorker you live in Jersey they don't ask what town, but
"What Exit," implying that New Jersey is just the Turnpike and the
Parkway.  We try to keep the nicer sections of NJ secret from New Yorkers,
for fear they will all move here.  


Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 11:34 AM, P. J. Alling 
can...



On 7/4/2018 9:37 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I am not a wine snob, but I do appreciate certain better wines,

especially
Pouilly Fuisse, Cru Beaujolais and Barbera d’Asti, or any decent Pinot
Grigio.  My wife hates all of these, and prefers fruity wines or sweet
wines like Asti Spumante.  She found this gem from right here in New
Jersey
at Wegman's this week, so it was our Fourth of July treat.  You have
just
got to love a vineyard called "What Exit Wines."

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/7/
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K-5 IIs, FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8
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Re: PESO: What Exit Wine

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I am in Somerset County, and I did a lot of work for the old AT in the
1970s and 1980s.  They were my largest single client for years.  Which AT
facility were you working with?  I did a lot of work on the "Long Lines"
facility in Bedminster, and I did the zoning applications for the office
complex off 202/206 in Bridgewater.  Mostly I worked with the facility
managers at Mount Airy Road.  I also represented the company in constuction
litigation.

As far as corruption goes, Sen Menendez, who was prosecuted for corruption
by the Justice Dept under Obama, is running for re-election, and will
undoubtedly win.  It seems NJ alway has one honest Senator and one Crook:
Case/Williams, Bradley /Torricelli, and now Booker/Menedez.

Yes, Somerset, Hunterdon and Morris counties are very nice, contrary to the
general image of New Jersey.

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 6:52 PM, P. J. Alling 
wrote:

> I lived in Somerset County for almost a year working on a project for the
> "old" AT  There were a lot of members of the team who were commuting
> from NY City.  They were amazed at how nice the area was and how
> "inexpensive" the rents were for what you got.  None of them moved there
> however.  No accounting for taste.  Connecticut was less expensive and just
> as nice, and at the time our Government was a bit more honest.  I haven't
> kept up on NJ politics, but I think I can safely say the Connecticut is now
> more corrupt than NJ was then.
>
>
>
> On 7/5/2018 6:31 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>> Thanks, PJ.  The name of the producer may not be familiar to everyone
>> here.  New Yawkers look down on us hicks from "Joisy" as they call it .
>> If
>> you tell a New Yorker you live in Jersey they don't ask what town, but
>> "What Exit," implying that New Jersey is just the Turnpike and the
>> Parkway.  We try to keep the nicer sections of NJ secret from New Yorkers,
>> for fear they will all move here.  
>>
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 11:34 AM, P. J. Alling > >
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm disappointed, with it's name and origin I expected it to come in a
>>> can...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/4/2018 9:37 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>>
>>> I am not a wine snob, but I do appreciate certain better wines,
 especially
 Pouilly Fuisse, Cru Beaujolais and Barbera d’Asti, or any decent Pinot
 Grigio.  My wife hates all of these, and prefers fruity wines or sweet
 wines like Asti Spumante.  She found this gem from right here in New
 Jersey
 at Wegman's this week, so it was our Fourth of July treat.  You have
 just
 got to love a vineyard called "What Exit Wines."

 http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/7/
 4/jersey-wine

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 Comments are always appreciated.

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Re: PESO: What Exit Wine

[P. J. Alling]

I lived in Somerset County for almost a year working on a project for 
the "old" AT  There were a lot of members of the team who were 
commuting from NY City.  They were amazed at how nice the area was and 
how "inexpensive" the rents were for what you got.  None of them moved 
there however.  No accounting for taste.  Connecticut was less expensive 
and just as nice, and at the time our Government was a bit more honest.  
I haven't kept up on NJ politics, but I think I can safely say the 
Connecticut is now more corrupt than NJ was then.



On 7/5/2018 6:31 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Thanks, PJ.  The name of the producer may not be familiar to everyone
here.  New Yawkers look down on us hicks from "Joisy" as they call it .  If
you tell a New Yorker you live in Jersey they don't ask what town, but
"What Exit," implying that New Jersey is just the Turnpike and the
Parkway.  We try to keep the nicer sections of NJ secret from New Yorkers,
for fear they will all move here.  


Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 11:34 AM, P. J. Alling 
wrote:


I'm disappointed, with it's name and origin I expected it to come in a
can...



On 7/4/2018 9:37 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


I am not a wine snob, but I do appreciate certain better wines, especially
Pouilly Fuisse, Cru Beaujolais and Barbera d’Asti, or any decent Pinot
Grigio.  My wife hates all of these, and prefers fruity wines or sweet
wines like Asti Spumante.  She found this gem from right here in New
Jersey
at Wegman's this week, so it was our Fourth of July treat.  You have just
got to love a vineyard called "What Exit Wines."

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/7/4/jersey-wine

K-5 IIs, FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8
Comments are always appreciated.

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Re: PESO: What Exit Wine

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Igor.

What Exit also makes Peach Wine.  I have a bottle, but haven't opened it
yet.

In Maui, the Tedeschi Winery make a nice pineapple wine and another from
Lilikoi (passion fruit).  I prefer their more traditional grape wines,
which are quite good.

I do not know much about NY wines or WA wines.

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On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 4:34 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

>
>
> Wine in a can can be from CA. It's called "simpler wines":
> https://www.traderjoes.com/digin/post/simpler-wines
>
> BTW, peach wine from this line is a good summer refresher.
>
> Dan:
> We've had some interesting fruit wines from NJ/NY wineries.
> (we like different wines for different occasions, "classic" dry, some
> fruit(y) wines, etc.)
> But the best fruit (non-grape) wine of all the times was the raspberry
> wine from Hoodsport Winery in WA state.
> We've discovered it by chance in late 90's, and had been ordering it on a
> regular basis since that, for some 15+ years.
> It was in the vicinity of $10-12 per bottle shipped (if buying a case).
> But... recently, its cost went up drastically ($30 now)...
> http://hoodsport.stores.yahoo.net/raspberry.html
>
> What's nice is that it was not sweet at all. It was very slightly off-dry,
> so it was fine with those who like dry wines. But because of the fruity
> taste, sweet-wine lovers liked it as well.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Igor
>
>
> P. J. Alling Thu, 05 Jul 2018 08:35:25 -0700 wrote:
>
> I'm disappointed, with it's name and origin I expected it to come in a
> can...
>
>
> On 7/4/2018 9:37 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
> I am not a wine snob, but I do appreciate certain better wines,
> especially
> Pouilly Fuisse, Cru Beaujolais and Barbera d’Asti, or any decent Pinot
> Grigio.  My wife hates all of these, and prefers fruity wines or sweet
> wines like Asti Spumante.  She found this gem from right here in New
> Jersey
> at Wegman's this week, so it was our Fourth of July treat.  You have
> just
> got to love a vineyard called "What Exit Wines."
>
>
> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/7/4/jersey-wine
>
> K-5 IIs, FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8
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Re: PESO: What Exit Wine

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, PJ.  The name of the producer may not be familiar to everyone
here.  New Yawkers look down on us hicks from "Joisy" as they call it .  If
you tell a New Yorker you live in Jersey they don't ask what town, but
"What Exit," implying that New Jersey is just the Turnpike and the
Parkway.  We try to keep the nicer sections of NJ secret from New Yorkers,
for fear they will all move here.  


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On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 11:34 AM, P. J. Alling 
wrote:

> I'm disappointed, with it's name and origin I expected it to come in a
> can...
>
>
>
> On 7/4/2018 9:37 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>> I am not a wine snob, but I do appreciate certain better wines, especially
>> Pouilly Fuisse, Cru Beaujolais and Barbera d’Asti, or any decent Pinot
>> Grigio.  My wife hates all of these, and prefers fruity wines or sweet
>> wines like Asti Spumante.  She found this gem from right here in New
>> Jersey
>> at Wegman's this week, so it was our Fourth of July treat.  You have just
>> got to love a vineyard called "What Exit Wines."
>>
>> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/7/4/jersey-wine
>>
>> K-5 IIs, FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8
>> Comments are always appreciated.
>>
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>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
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Re: PESO: What Exit Wine

[Igor PDML-StR]

Wine in a can can be from CA. It's called "simpler wines":
https://www.traderjoes.com/digin/post/simpler-wines

BTW, peach wine from this line is a good summer refresher.

Dan:
We've had some interesting fruit wines from NJ/NY wineries.
(we like different wines for different occasions, "classic" dry, some 
fruit(y) wines, etc.)
But the best fruit (non-grape) wine of all the times was the raspberry 
wine from Hoodsport Winery in WA state.
We've discovered it by chance in late 90's, and had been ordering it on a 
regular basis since that, for some 15+ years.

It was in the vicinity of $10-12 per bottle shipped (if buying a case).
But... recently, its cost went up drastically ($30 now)...
http://hoodsport.stores.yahoo.net/raspberry.html

What's nice is that it was not sweet at all. It was very slightly off-dry,
so it was fine with those who like dry wines. But because of the fruity 
taste, sweet-wine lovers liked it as well.


Cheers,

Igor


P. J. Alling Thu, 05 Jul 2018 08:35:25 -0700 wrote:

I'm disappointed, with it's name and origin I expected it to come in a 
can...



On 7/4/2018 9:37 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I am not a wine snob, but I do appreciate certain better wines, 
especially

Pouilly Fuisse, Cru Beaujolais and Barbera d’Asti, or any decent Pinot
Grigio.  My wife hates all of these, and prefers fruity wines or sweet
wines like Asti Spumante.  She found this gem from right here in New 
Jersey
at Wegman's this week, so it was our Fourth of July treat.  You have 
just

got to love a vineyard called "What Exit Wines."


http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/7/4/jersey-wine

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Re: PESO: What Exit Wine

[P. J. Alling]

The question is not so much better, as more palatable.  An inexpensive 
bottle of a local wine could easily be more palatable than a very 
expensive rare vintage.  Remember one of the flavors and odors wine 
connoisseurs use to describe a wine is merde.



On 7/5/2018 1:40 AM, Alan C wrote:

What are "better wines"?

Alan C


On 05-Jul-18 03:37 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
I am not a wine snob, but I do appreciate certain better wines, 
especially

Pouilly Fuisse, Cru Beaujolais and Barbera d’Asti, or any decent Pinot
Grigio.  My wife hates all of these, and prefers fruity wines or sweet
wines like Asti Spumante.  She found this gem from right here in New 
Jersey
at Wegman's this week, so it was our Fourth of July treat.  You have 
just

got to love a vineyard called "What Exit Wines."

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/7/4/jersey-wine 



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I'm disappointed, with it's name and origin I expected it to come in a 
can...



On 7/4/2018 9:37 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I am not a wine snob, but I do appreciate certain better wines, especially
Pouilly Fuisse, Cru Beaujolais and Barbera d’Asti, or any decent Pinot
Grigio.  My wife hates all of these, and prefers fruity wines or sweet
wines like Asti Spumante.  She found this gem from right here in New Jersey
at Wegman's this week, so it was our Fourth of July treat.  You have just
got to love a vineyard called "What Exit Wines."

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/7/4/jersey-wine

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[Daniel J. Matyola]

Tried it once, decades ago.  I was bad at it and hated it.l

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On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Alan C  wrote:

> You should be a politician.
>
> Alan C
>
>
>
> On 05-Jul-18 04:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>> These are some of the finest whines around:
>>
>> https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/the-whiners/n8967
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 1:40 AM, Alan C  wrote:
>>
>> What are "better wines"?
>>>
>>> Alan C
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05-Jul-18 03:37 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>>
>>> I am not a wine snob, but I do appreciate certain better wines,
 especially
 Pouilly Fuisse, Cru Beaujolais and Barbera d’Asti, or any decent Pinot
 Grigio.  My wife hates all of these, and prefers fruity wines or sweet
 wines like Asti Spumante.  She found this gem from right here in New
 Jersey
 at Wegman's this week, so it was our Fourth of July treat.  You have
 just
 got to love a vineyard called "What Exit Wines."

 http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/7/
 4/jersey-wine

 K-5 IIs, FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8
 Comments are always appreciated.

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Re: PESO: What Exit Wine

[Alan C]

You should be a politician.

Alan C


On 05-Jul-18 04:08 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

These are some of the finest whines around:

https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/the-whiners/n8967

Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 1:40 AM, Alan C  wrote:


What are "better wines"?

Alan C



On 05-Jul-18 03:37 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


I am not a wine snob, but I do appreciate certain better wines, especially
Pouilly Fuisse, Cru Beaujolais and Barbera d’Asti, or any decent Pinot
Grigio.  My wife hates all of these, and prefers fruity wines or sweet
wines like Asti Spumante.  She found this gem from right here in New
Jersey
at Wegman's this week, so it was our Fourth of July treat.  You have just
got to love a vineyard called "What Exit Wines."

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/7/4/jersey-wine

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Comments are always appreciated.

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Re: PESO: What Exit Wine

[Daniel J. Matyola]

These are some of the finest whines around:

https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/the-whiners/n8967

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On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 1:40 AM, Alan C  wrote:

> What are "better wines"?
>
> Alan C
>
>
>
> On 05-Jul-18 03:37 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>> I am not a wine snob, but I do appreciate certain better wines, especially
>> Pouilly Fuisse, Cru Beaujolais and Barbera d’Asti, or any decent Pinot
>> Grigio.  My wife hates all of these, and prefers fruity wines or sweet
>> wines like Asti Spumante.  She found this gem from right here in New
>> Jersey
>> at Wegman's this week, so it was our Fourth of July treat.  You have just
>> got to love a vineyard called "What Exit Wines."
>>
>> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/7/4/jersey-wine
>>
>> K-5 IIs, FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8
>> Comments are always appreciated.
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
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[Alan C]

What are "better wines"?

Alan C


On 05-Jul-18 03:37 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I am not a wine snob, but I do appreciate certain better wines, especially
Pouilly Fuisse, Cru Beaujolais and Barbera d’Asti, or any decent Pinot
Grigio.  My wife hates all of these, and prefers fruity wines or sweet
wines like Asti Spumante.  She found this gem from right here in New Jersey
at Wegman's this week, so it was our Fourth of July treat.  You have just
got to love a vineyard called "What Exit Wines."

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2018/7/4/jersey-wine

K-5 IIs, FA 100 mm Macro F 2.8
Comments are always appreciated.

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Re: PESO - What Does the Fox Say?

[Mark C]

Hilarious! You caught the moment.

On 8/14/2015 8:43 PM, frank theriault wrote:

Or, I knew I shouldn't have dropped acid last night!

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/08/what-does-fox-say.html

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

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Re: PESO - What Does the Fox Say?

[ann sanfedele]

MARK!
(BOB's line . not mine)

ann

On 8/16/2015 6:13 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

He's thinking what the fox that?

B


On 16 Aug 2015, at 23:05, ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

Not sure what thatfox says but the guy is probably thinking that's not his idea 
of a fox.

In Times suqare, that fox would be acosting you for a tip , or else

fun shot!

ann


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Or, I knew I shouldn't have dropped acid last night!

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/08/what-does-fox-say.html

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Re: PESO - What Does the Fox Say?

[Knarf]

LOL!

Thanks, Ann. And Bob - I think...

So this isn't as weird as it seems. Taken last weekend at an indigenous 
peoples' festival, the fox is an animal totem. Ojibway, I think. But I could be 
wrong.

There were crows, eagles and horses (the latter obviously being a post European 
invasion - I mean contact - thing), all wandering about the grounds. 

Thanks all for the comments and for looking. 

Cheers,

frank

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MARK!
(BOB's line . not mine)

ann

On 8/16/2015 6:13 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote:
 He's thinking what the fox that?

 B

 On 16 Aug 2015, at 23:05, ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 Not sure what thatfox says but the guy is probably thinking that's
not his idea of a fox.

 In Times suqare, that fox would be acosting you for a tip , or
else

 fun shot!

 ann

 On 8/14/2015 8:43 PM, frank theriault wrote:
 Or, I knew I shouldn't have dropped acid last night!

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/08/what-does-fox-say.html

 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

 cheers,

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He's thinking what the fox that?

B

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 Not sure what thatfox says but the guy is probably thinking that's not his 
 idea of a fox.
 
 In Times suqare, that fox would be acosting you for a tip , or else
 
 fun shot!
 
 ann
 
 On 8/14/2015 8:43 PM, frank theriault wrote:
 Or, I knew I shouldn't have dropped acid last night!
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/08/what-does-fox-say.html
 
 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
 
 cheers,
 
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Not sure what thatfox says but the guy is probably thinking that's not 
his idea of a fox.


In Times suqare, that fox would be acosting you for a tip , or else

fun shot!

ann

On 8/14/2015 8:43 PM, frank theriault wrote:

Or, I knew I shouldn't have dropped acid last night!

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/08/what-does-fox-say.html

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[Knarf]

We have our moments.

:-)

Thanks for the comment, Rick! 

Cheers,

frank

On 15 August, 2015 1:52:31 PM EDT, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote:
Nice catch. Pretty strange city you live in, Knarf.

Rick
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On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:05 PM, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote:
 On 8/14/2015 8:43 PM, frank theriault wrote:

 Or, I knew I shouldn't have dropped acid last night!

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/08/what-does-fox-say.html

 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

 cheers,

 frank


 The guy's got an expression like, Dude! That's weird even for
Toronto.

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[Knarf]

I've heard that Toronto is the most multicultural city in the world but this is 
a bit much, even for us.

Cheers,

frank

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On 8/14/2015 8:43 PM, frank theriault wrote:
 Or, I knew I shouldn't have dropped acid last night!

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/08/what-does-fox-say.html

 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

 cheers,

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The guy's got an expression like, Dude! That's weird even for
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Who, pookas?

;-)

Cheers, 

frank



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They walk among us.

J

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great catch, and a marvelous expression.

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 Or, I knew I shouldn't have dropped acid last night!

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/08/what-does-fox-say.html

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Thanks, Dan!

Cheers,

frank

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Nice catch. Pretty strange city you live in, Knarf.

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 On 8/14/2015 8:43 PM, frank theriault wrote:

 Or, I knew I shouldn't have dropped acid last night!

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/08/what-does-fox-say.html

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great catch, and a marvelous expression.

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 Or, I knew I shouldn't have dropped acid last night!

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/08/what-does-fox-say.html

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They walk among us.

J

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 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/08/what-does-fox-say.html

 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

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Re: PESO - What Does the Fox Say?

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On 8/14/2015 8:43 PM, frank theriault wrote:

Or, I knew I shouldn't have dropped acid last night!

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/08/what-does-fox-say.html

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

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Re: PESO: What Color is This.

[Paul]

When I was in grade school, Crayola might have called that red-orange, 
but I guess names have changed since 1948.  ; }


-p

On 4/26/2015 9:33 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Salmon I think is best. but coral might work as well
because even though coral need not be salmon colored it often is.

ann




On 4/26/2015 09:24, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

This is one of my favorites of the daffodil varieties I planted in my
yard.  It is a double daffodil, with an unusual color between the
outer and inner white petals.  When I purchased the bulbs, several
years ago, they were identified by variety and colors, but I have
forgotten both.  I know what I call the color now, but I am not sure
that is accurate or sufficiently descriptive.  I would appreciate the
thoughts of others who are more artistic as to what the color of the
non-white petals should be called.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18012628size=lg

Once again, K-5 II S with FA 100mm F2.8 Macro.
Once again, comments and criticisms are invited and appreciated.

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Re: PESO: What Color is This.

[Knarf]

Can't help with the colour but it's a stunning bloom, and well captured.

Cheers,

frank

On 26 April, 2015 9:24:33 AM EDT, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
wrote:
This is one of my favorites of the daffodil varieties I planted in my
yard.  It is a double daffodil, with an unusual color between the
outer and inner white petals.  When I purchased the bulbs, several
years ago, they were identified by variety and colors, but I have
forgotten both.  I know what I call the color now, but I am not sure
that is accurate or sufficiently descriptive.  I would appreciate the
thoughts of others who are more artistic as to what the color of the
non-white petals should be called.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18012628size=lg

Once again, K-5 II S with FA 100mm F2.8 Macro.
Once again, comments and criticisms are invited and appreciated.

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Re: PESO: What Color is This.

[Ann Sanfedele]

Salmon I think is best. but coral might work as well
because even though coral need not be salmon colored it often is.

ann




On 4/26/2015 09:24, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

This is one of my favorites of the daffodil varieties I planted in my
yard.  It is a double daffodil, with an unusual color between the
outer and inner white petals.  When I purchased the bulbs, several
years ago, they were identified by variety and colors, but I have
forgotten both.  I know what I call the color now, but I am not sure
that is accurate or sufficiently descriptive.  I would appreciate the
thoughts of others who are more artistic as to what the color of the
non-white petals should be called.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18012628size=lg

Once again, K-5 II S with FA 100mm F2.8 Macro.
Once again, comments and criticisms are invited and appreciated.

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Re: PESO: What Color is This.

[Bob Sullivan]

Coral is a much better description than salmon.
It doesn't smell as fishy.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Paul pentax1...@gmail.com wrote:
 When I was in grade school, Crayola might have called that red-orange, but I
 guess names have changed since 1948.  ; }

 -p

 On 4/26/2015 9:33 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 Salmon I think is best. but coral might work as well
 because even though coral need not be salmon colored it often is.

 ann




 On 4/26/2015 09:24, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 This is one of my favorites of the daffodil varieties I planted in my
 yard.  It is a double daffodil, with an unusual color between the
 outer and inner white petals.  When I purchased the bulbs, several
 years ago, they were identified by variety and colors, but I have
 forgotten both.  I know what I call the color now, but I am not sure
 that is accurate or sufficiently descriptive.  I would appreciate the
 thoughts of others who are more artistic as to what the color of the
 non-white petals should be called.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18012628size=lg

 Once again, K-5 II S with FA 100mm F2.8 Macro.
 Once again, comments and criticisms are invited and appreciated.

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Re: PESO: What Color is This.

[John]

Looks like orange to me.

On 4/26/2015 9:24 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

This is one of my favorites of the daffodil varieties I planted in my
yard.  It is a double daffodil, with an unusual color between the
outer and inner white petals.  When I purchased the bulbs, several
years ago, they were identified by variety and colors, but I have
forgotten both.  I know what I call the color now, but I am not sure
that is accurate or sufficiently descriptive.  I would appreciate the
thoughts of others who are more artistic as to what the color of the
non-white petals should be called.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18012628size=lg

Once again, K-5 II S with FA 100mm F2.8 Macro.
Once again, comments and criticisms are invited and appreciated.

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Re: PESO: What Color is This.

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 But I do find that designer color names get a little silly.  Once a friend
 complimented me on the blouse I was wearing and asked what the
 color was called.. I replied Red :-)

I agree, Ann, but this particular hue doe not fall within the usual
basic colors.

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Re: PESO: What Color is This.

[Bob Sullivan]

Not to much coral in Chicago, or within 1,000 miles.

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 12:16 PM, P.J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 You've never smelled dead coral before the organics have been dispersed,
 have you.

 On 4/26/2015 11:52 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Coral is a much better description than salmon.
 It doesn't smell as fishy.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Paul pentax1...@gmail.com wrote:

 When I was in grade school, Crayola might have called that red-orange,
 but I
 guess names have changed since 1948.  ; }

 -p

 On 4/26/2015 9:33 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 Salmon I think is best. but coral might work as well
 because even though coral need not be salmon colored it often is.

 ann




 On 4/26/2015 09:24, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 This is one of my favorites of the daffodil varieties I planted in my
 yard.  It is a double daffodil, with an unusual color between the
 outer and inner white petals.  When I purchased the bulbs, several
 years ago, they were identified by variety and colors, but I have
 forgotten both.  I know what I call the color now, but I am not sure
 that is accurate or sufficiently descriptive.  I would appreciate the
 thoughts of others who are more artistic as to what the color of the
 non-white petals should be called.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18012628size=lg

 Once again, K-5 II S with FA 100mm F2.8 Macro.
 Once again, comments and criticisms are invited and appreciated.

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Re: PESO: What Color is This.

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Ann Sanfedele wrote on Sun, 26 Apr 2015 07:32:40:

 Salmon I think is best. but coral might work as well
 because even though coral need not be salmon colored it often is.

I think that “coral” would be the more appropriate name, at least in the US, 
and assuming my monitor calibration is on target.  Salmon is a slightly 
yellower hue, IMO. But as you note, coral can cover a range of hues.

As a color designer/paint formulator at DuPont for 30 years, one of my favorite 
tasks was naming the annual palette of colors we offered to the automotive 
companies. We tried to keep away from names which were too fanciful, seeking 
instead names which would evoke the color in the mind of someone reading it in 
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Re: PESO: What Color is This.

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can't help with the colour but it's a stunning bloom, and well captured.

Thanks, Frank!

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Re: PESO: What Color is This.

[P.J. Alling]

You've never smelled dead coral before the organics have been dispersed, 
have you.


On 4/26/2015 11:52 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Coral is a much better description than salmon.
It doesn't smell as fishy.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Paul pentax1...@gmail.com wrote:

When I was in grade school, Crayola might have called that red-orange, but I
guess names have changed since 1948.  ; }

-p

On 4/26/2015 9:33 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Salmon I think is best. but coral might work as well
because even though coral need not be salmon colored it often is.

ann




On 4/26/2015 09:24, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

This is one of my favorites of the daffodil varieties I planted in my
yard.  It is a double daffodil, with an unusual color between the
outer and inner white petals.  When I purchased the bulbs, several
years ago, they were identified by variety and colors, but I have
forgotten both.  I know what I call the color now, but I am not sure
that is accurate or sufficiently descriptive.  I would appreciate the
thoughts of others who are more artistic as to what the color of the
non-white petals should be called.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18012628size=lg

Once again, K-5 II S with FA 100mm F2.8 Macro.
Once again, comments and criticisms are invited and appreciated.

Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO: What Color is This.

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Ann, Paul, John, Bob P.J. Bulent, and all who looked and commented.

I had been calling it peach, but I looked at a color chart just
know, and Coral, Salmon or Re-Orange all seen closer to the color in
the bloom.

In any event, it's still one of my favorite daffs.

Dan Matyola
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On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 Salmon I think is best. but coral might work as well
 because even though coral need not be salmon colored it often is.

 ann





 On 4/26/2015 09:24, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 This is one of my favorites of the daffodil varieties I planted in my
 yard.  It is a double daffodil, with an unusual color between the
 outer and inner white petals.  When I purchased the bulbs, several
 years ago, they were identified by variety and colors, but I have
 forgotten both.  I know what I call the color now, but I am not sure
 that is accurate or sufficiently descriptive.  I would appreciate the
 thoughts of others who are more artistic as to what the color of the
 non-white petals should be called.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18012628size=lg

 Once again, K-5 II S with FA 100mm F2.8 Macro.
 Once again, comments and criticisms are invited and appreciated.

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Re: PESO: What Color is This.

[Ann Sanfedele]

Sounds like a neat job, Jim

The difficult thing I find in describing the color of something I'm 
selling is what most people who would buy this that or the other thing
would respond to or see as being most correct - because while I may get 
the color spot on on my monitor, and it translates well, the keywords
as words get them to the listing, lets see, is it pomegranate? or 
Cranberry? Lemon or Canary? gets tough.


ann

On 4/26/2015 19:59, James King wrote:

Ann Sanfedele wrote on Sun, 26 Apr 2015 07:32:40:


Salmon I think is best. but coral might work as well
because even though coral need not be salmon colored it often is.


I think that “coral” would be the more appropriate name, at least in the US, 
and assuming my monitor calibration is on target.  Salmon is a slightly 
yellower hue, IMO. But as you note, coral can cover a range of hues.

As a color designer/paint formulator at DuPont for 30 years, one of my favorite 
tasks was naming the annual palette of colors we offered to the automotive 
companies. We tried to keep away from names which were too fanciful, seeking 
instead names which would evoke the color in the mind of someone reading it in 
a brochure. Not always easy…

Regards, Jim

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Re: PESO: What Color is This.

[Ann Sanfedele]

Dan - I stand by Salmon as the closest thing... thinking of the hue of 
a slab of nova scotia :-)  and the color of your flower, as you say,

doesn't fall within the basic colors..

The exchange with my friend was just a dig at the fashion industry and
I was teasing my friend a bit too...

ann


On 4/26/2015 18:43, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

But I do find that designer color names get a little silly.  Once a friend
complimented me on the blouse I was wearing and asked what the
color was called.. I replied Red :-)


I agree, Ann, but this particular hue doe not fall within the usual
basic colors.

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Re: PESO: What have we done?!

[Igor PDML-StR]

Thank you, Tim, Ann, and Dave for your response.
Special thanks to Ann for encouraging me to edit this photo.

Actually, I had tried to darken that lit part, but it was requiring a more 
careful work to be done, so, I didn't go all the way with its processing.


So, the photo is updated:
http://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-08-BsAsGraffiti/_IR09778.html

How does it look now? (for those who have seen it before)


I am also puzzled why this well-lit portion shows in my browser somewhat 
lighter than outside of the browser (Firefox).
I know that I am using settings (the LR default) to export photos 
with RGB color profile. So, they should be seen correctly in Firefox.
I just checked, and Opera and Chrome seem to be showing colors more 
consistently.


Igor


  Ann Sanfedele Sat, 04 Oct 2014 20:57:09 -0700


Nice Catch, Igor!
worth toning down the overexposed piece of the wall..
ann




On 10/4/2014 22:07, Tim Bray wrote:

   Ouch.



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http://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-08-BsAsGraffiti/_IR09778.html

I wonder if the scene is as obvious to others as for me .
All comments are welcome!

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Re: PESO: What have we done?!

[David J Brooks]

very nice

Dave

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 http://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-08-BsAsGraffiti/_IR09778.html

 I wonder if the scene is as obvious to others as for me .
 All comments are welcome!

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Re: PESO: What have we done?!

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Ouch.

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 http://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-08-BsAsGraffiti/_IR09778.html

 I wonder if the scene is as obvious to others as for me .
 All comments are welcome!

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Re: PESO: What have we done?!

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Nice Catch, Igor!
worth toning down the overexposed piece of the wall..
ann

On 10/4/2014 22:07, Tim Bray wrote:

Ouch.

On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Igor PDML-StR pdml...@komkon.org wrote:



http://42graphy.org/galleries/2014-08-BsAsGraffiti/_IR09778.html

I wonder if the scene is as obvious to others as for me .
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Re: PESO: What a K-5 can do

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On 29 December 2012 19:17, Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote:
 The only way to get this shot was through the iron bars of a gate, hence
 no possibility to use a tripod.

 K-5, SMC-A 2.8 24 mm, f4, ISO 800, 3 freehand exposures 1/8 to 1/60 s
 Enfuse plugin for Lightroom:

Superb as usual Ralf, lovely to see that you are still working the
A24/2.8 hard too, lovely little lens, I must take mine out for a night
shoot soon.

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RE: PESO: What a K-5 can do

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Ralf! Always a pleasure to see your photos, and this is no exception!

Amazing, given the conditions (including hand held)!

cheers,
frank

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From: Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de
Sent: December 29, 2012 12/29/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: What a K-5 can do

The only way to get this shot was through the iron bars of a gate, hence
no possibility to use a tripod. 

K-5, SMC-A 2.8 24 mm, f4, ISO 800, 3 freehand exposures 1/8 to 1/60 s
Enfuse plugin for Lightroom:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/29854910 

As always your comments...

All the best from Dunkirk,
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Re: PESO: What a K-5 can do

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Stunning image, with great color and detail.
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On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 12:57 AM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 on 2012-12-29 1:17 Ralf R. Radermacher wrote

 K-5, SMC-A 2.8 24 mm, f4, ISO 800, 3 freehand exposures 1/8 to 1/60 s
 Enfuse plugin for Lightroom:

 http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/29854910


 i spent several minutes with my eye wandering across the fascinating details
 (not just the boats)



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Re: PESO: What a K-5 can do

[Walt]

As if I needed another reason to want a K-5!!!

Wonderful shot, Ralf.

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On 12/29/2012 2:17 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

The only way to get this shot was through the iron bars of a gate, hence
no possibility to use a tripod.

K-5, SMC-A 2.8 24 mm, f4, ISO 800, 3 freehand exposures 1/8 to 1/60 s
Enfuse plugin for Lightroom:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/29854910

As always your comments...

All the best from Dunkirk,
Ralf




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Re: PESO: What a K-5 can do

[Christine Aguila]

Wow!  That's great, Ralf!  Nice to see some work!  I checked out the Enfuse 
plugin.  Looks interesting.  May have to give it a go.  Cheers, Chrsitine



On Dec 29, 2012, at 2:17 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote:

 The only way to get this shot was through the iron bars of a gate, hence
 no possibility to use a tripod. 
 
 K-5, SMC-A 2.8 24 mm, f4, ISO 800, 3 freehand exposures 1/8 to 1/60 s
 Enfuse plugin for Lightroom:
 
 http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/29854910 
 
 As always your comments...
 
 All the best from Dunkirk,
 Ralf
 
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Re: PESO: What a K-5 can do

[steve harley]

on 2012-12-29 1:17 Ralf R. Radermacher wrote

K-5, SMC-A 2.8 24 mm, f4, ISO 800, 3 freehand exposures 1/8 to 1/60 s
Enfuse plugin for Lightroom:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/29854910


i spent several minutes with my eye wandering across the fascinating details 
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Re: PESO: What a K-5 can do

[James King]

Ralf R. Radermacher wrote on Sat, 29 Dec 2012 00:17:34 -0800:

 The only way to get this shot was through the iron bars of a gate, hence
 no possibility to use a tripod. 
 
 K-5, SMC-A 2.8 24 mm, f4, ISO 800, 3 freehand exposures 1/8 to 1/60 s
 Enfuse plugin for Lightroom:
 
 
 http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/29854910
  
 
 As always your comments...
 
 All the best from Dunkirk,
 Ralf

Another spectacular image, Ralf.  For you it may be commonplace, but for the 
rest of us…

Regards, Jim
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Re: PESO: What a K-5 can do

[Boris Liberman]

I suggest a different title - What talented and experience photographer 
such as Ralf can do with a very capable camera such as K-5 :-)...


You never fail to impress, sir Ralf.

On 12/29/2012 10:17 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

The only way to get this shot was through the iron bars of a gate, hence
no possibility to use a tripod.

K-5, SMC-A 2.8 24 mm, f4, ISO 800, 3 freehand exposures 1/8 to 1/60 s
Enfuse plugin for Lightroom:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/29854910

As always your comments...

All the best from Dunkirk,
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Re: PESO: What a K-5 can do

[Boris Liberman]

I suggest a different title - What talented and experienced photographer 
such as Ralf can do with a very capable camera such as K-5 :-)...


You never fail to impress, sir Ralf.

On 12/29/2012 10:17 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

The only way to get this shot was through the iron bars of a gate, hence
no possibility to use a tripod.

K-5, SMC-A 2.8 24 mm, f4, ISO 800, 3 freehand exposures 1/8 to 1/60 s
Enfuse plugin for Lightroom:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/29854910

As always your comments...

All the best from Dunkirk,
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Re: PESO: What a K-5 can do

[Derby Chang]

Geez, I've been missing Ralfgraphs. That is outstanding




On 29/12/2012 7:17 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

The only way to get this shot was through the iron bars of a gate, hence
no possibility to use a tripod.

K-5, SMC-A 2.8 24 mm, f4, ISO 800, 3 freehand exposures 1/8 to 1/60 s
Enfuse plugin for Lightroom:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/29854910

As always your comments...

All the best from Dunkirk,
Ralf




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RE: PESO: What a K-5 can do

[Gerrit Visser]

Sehr schon. You can almost feel the hum. I guess the bars worked as a
tripod?

Love the K5 for low lighting work.

Gerrit

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Sent: December 29, 2012 3:17 AM
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The only way to get this shot was through the iron bars of a gate, hence no
possibility to use a tripod. 

K-5, SMC-A 2.8 24 mm, f4, ISO 800, 3 freehand exposures 1/8 to 1/60 s Enfuse
plugin for Lightroom:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/29854910 

As always your comments...

All the best from Dunkirk,
Ralf

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Re: PESO: What a K-5 can do

[Paul Stenquist]

Powerful image. Well done.
Paul
On Dec 29, 2012, at 3:17 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote:

 The only way to get this shot was through the iron bars of a gate, hence
 no possibility to use a tripod. 
 
 K-5, SMC-A 2.8 24 mm, f4, ISO 800, 3 freehand exposures 1/8 to 1/60 s
 Enfuse plugin for Lightroom:
 
 http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/29854910 
 
 As always your comments...
 
 All the best from Dunkirk,
 Ralf
 
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Re: PESO: What a K-5 can do

[Bruce Walker]

Outstanding image, Ralf. The exposure is spot on.

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote:
 The only way to get this shot was through the iron bars of a gate, hence
 no possibility to use a tripod.

 K-5, SMC-A 2.8 24 mm, f4, ISO 800, 3 freehand exposures 1/8 to 1/60 s
 Enfuse plugin for Lightroom:

 http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/29854910

 As always your comments...

 All the best from Dunkirk,
 Ralf

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Re: PESO: What a K-5 can do

[David J Brooks]

Excellent as always

Dave

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote:
 Enfuse plugin for Lightroom



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Re: PESO: What a K-5 can do

[Rick Womer]

Lovely shot, Ralf!  The car gives it scale, and the composition and lighting 
and exposure are splendid.

I've really missed your photos!

Rick

 
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Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 3:17 AM
Subject: PESO: What a K-5 can do

The only way to get this shot was through the iron bars of a gate, hence
no possibility to use a tripod. 

K-5, SMC-A 2.8 24 mm, f4, ISO 800, 3 freehand exposures 1/8 to 1/60 s
Enfuse plugin for Lightroom:

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/29854910 

As always your comments...

All the best from Dunkirk,
Ralf

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Re: PESO: What a K-5 can do

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On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote:
 The only way to get this shot was through the iron bars of a gate, hence
 no possibility to use a tripod.

 K-5, SMC-A 2.8 24 mm, f4, ISO 800, 3 freehand exposures 1/8 to 1/60 s
 Enfuse plugin for Lightroom:


I just downloaded this plug in i
ll give it a try

Dave
 http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/29854910

 As always your comments...

 All the best from Dunkirk,
 Ralf

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Re: PESO: What a K-5 can do

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Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote:

 I guess the bars worked as a tripod?

No luck either. The whole gate shook and rattled in gale-force winds. 

Ralf

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Re: PESO: What are the neighbours doing now?

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On Dec 24, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Christine Aguila cagui...@me.com wrote:

 Funny!  Caught them just right.  Great compositional balance between the 
 poses of the two women.  Cheers, Christine
 
 
 
 
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Re: PESO: What are the neighbours doing now?

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Couldn't see this one without signing in.

Paul


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 On Dec 24, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Christine Aguila cagui...@me.com wrote:
 
 Funny!  Caught them just right.  Great compositional balance between the 
 poses of the two women.  Cheers, Christine
 
 
 
 
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Re: PESO: What are the neighbours doing now?

[Eactivist]

This really made me laugh when I opened  it.

Cool shot.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

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Re: PESO: What are the neighbours doing now?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I love it!  I suspect, however, they are watching the birds rather
than the human neighbors.
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Re: PESO: What the HELL is this?

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Re: PESO: What the HELL is this?

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On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, I took the K20D with the Promaster 70-300 out this morning to work on
 my manual focusing skills, and happened to catch this out of the corner of
 my eye -- thinking it was a hummingbird. The thing is pretty damned sizable.

 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7789467090/
 ISO 320, 1/180, f/7.1

I think it's a sphynx moth... they are noted for their resemblance to
hummingbirds. One species is even called the Hummingbird Hawk Moth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphingidae

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Re: PESO: What the HELL is this?

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On 8/15/2012 12:26 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:


So, I took the K20D with the Promaster 70-300 out this morning to work on
my manual focusing skills, and happened to catch this out of the corner of
my eye -- thinking it was a hummingbird. The thing is pretty damned sizable.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7789467090/
ISO 320, 1/180, f/7.1

I think it's a sphynx moth... they are noted for their resemblance to
hummingbirds. One species is even called the Hummingbird Hawk Moth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphingidae

Nice shot of it!

Thanks, Matthew! I'd have never guessed it was a moth, but based on 
this, I suspect you're right on the money:


http://www.wunderground.com/wximage/viewsingleimage.html?mode=singleimagehandle=novembergalenumber=214

I'm just glad I got a cool-looking one.

Thanks again!

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Re: PESO: What the HELL is this?

[Steven Desjardins]

It's a flying crawdad.  They are rare but delicious.

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 8/15/2012 12:26 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

 On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, I took the K20D with the Promaster 70-300 out this morning to work on
 my manual focusing skills, and happened to catch this out of the corner
 of
 my eye -- thinking it was a hummingbird. The thing is pretty damned
 sizable.

 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7789467090/
 ISO 320, 1/180, f/7.1

 I think it's a sphynx moth... they are noted for their resemblance to
 hummingbirds. One species is even called the Hummingbird Hawk Moth.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphingidae

 Nice shot of it!

 Thanks, Matthew! I'd have never guessed it was a moth, but based on this, I
 suspect you're right on the money:

 http://www.wunderground.com/wximage/viewsingleimage.html?mode=singleimagehandle=novembergalenumber=214

 I'm just glad I got a cool-looking one.

 Thanks again!

 -- Walt


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Re: PESO: What the HELL is this?

[Walt Gilbert]

Ha! There is a definite crawdad-like look about it, isn't there?

-- Walt

On 8/15/2012 12:39 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

It's a flying crawdad.  They are rare but delicious.

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

On 8/15/2012 12:26 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:


So, I took the K20D with the Promaster 70-300 out this morning to work on
my manual focusing skills, and happened to catch this out of the corner
of
my eye -- thinking it was a hummingbird. The thing is pretty damned
sizable.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7789467090/
ISO 320, 1/180, f/7.1

I think it's a sphynx moth... they are noted for their resemblance to
hummingbirds. One species is even called the Hummingbird Hawk Moth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphingidae

Nice shot of it!


Thanks, Matthew! I'd have never guessed it was a moth, but based on this, I
suspect you're right on the money:

http://www.wunderground.com/wximage/viewsingleimage.html?mode=singleimagehandle=novembergalenumber=214

I'm just glad I got a cool-looking one.

Thanks again!

-- Walt


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Re: PESO: What the HELL is this?

[Joseph McAllister]

Liking you less Walt. Put that rig away!

(I'm impressed)

On Aug 15, 2012, at 10:20 , Walt Gilbert wrote:

 So, I took the K20D with the Promaster 70-300 out this morning to work on my 
 manual focusing skills, and happened to catch this out of the corner of my 
 eye -- thinking it was a hummingbird. The thing is pretty damned sizable.
 
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7789467090/
 ISO 320, 1/180, f/7.1
 
 If it's some kind of bee, it's not like any I've ever seen before. But, I'm 
 sure some PDML'er will be able to inform me.
 
 -- Walt
 
 P/S: I also got a couple of hummer shots while I was out there:
 
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7789469050/
 
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7789466064/



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Re: PESO: What the HELL is this?

[Walt Gilbert]

Thank you, Joseph!

Now that I don't have to be afraid of getting stung, I may try getting 
up-close  personal and shooting it with one of my 50mm primes if it 
keeps coming around. It's a cool-looking critter, ain't it?


-- Walt

On 8/15/2012 2:51 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

Liking you less Walt. Put that rig away!

(I'm impressed)

On Aug 15, 2012, at 10:20 , Walt Gilbert wrote:


So, I took the K20D with the Promaster 70-300 out this morning to work on my 
manual focusing skills, and happened to catch this out of the corner of my eye 
-- thinking it was a hummingbird. The thing is pretty damned sizable.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7789467090/
ISO 320, 1/180, f/7.1

If it's some kind of bee, it's not like any I've ever seen before. But, I'm 
sure some PDML'er will be able to inform me.

-- Walt

P/S: I also got a couple of hummer shots while I was out there:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7789469050/

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7789466064/



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RE: PESO: What the HELL is this?

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Well, it's a heck of a photo for starters.

cheers,
frank

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From: Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com
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Subject: PESO: What the HELL is this?

So, I took the K20D with the Promaster 70-300 out this morning to work 
on my manual focusing skills, and happened to catch this out of the 
corner of my eye -- thinking it was a hummingbird. The thing is pretty 
damned sizable.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7789467090/
ISO 320, 1/180, f/7.1

If it's some kind of bee, it's not like any I've ever seen before. But, 
I'm sure some PDML'er will be able to inform me.

-- Walt

P/S: I also got a couple of hummer shots while I was out there:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7789469050/

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7789466064/

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Re: PESO: What the HELL is this?

[John Sessoms]

From: Walt Gilbert


So, I took the K20D with the Promaster 70-300 out this morning to
work on my manual focusing skills, and happened to catch this out of
the corner of my eye -- thinking it was a hummingbird. The thing is
pretty damned sizable.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7789467090/ ISO 320,
1/180, f/7.1

If it's some kind of bee, it's not like any I've ever seen before.
But, I'm sure some PDML'er will be able to inform me.


It's a hummingbird moth. They're about the size of a bumble-bee.

I don't know the scientific name.

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Re: PESO: What the HELL is this?

[Steven Desjardins]

Hummicum Mothicae

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:19 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Walt Gilbert


 So, I took the K20D with the Promaster 70-300 out this morning to
 work on my manual focusing skills, and happened to catch this out of
 the corner of my eye -- thinking it was a hummingbird. The thing is
 pretty damned sizable.

 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7789467090/ ISO 320,
 1/180, f/7.1

 If it's some kind of bee, it's not like any I've ever seen before.
 But, I'm sure some PDML'er will be able to inform me.


 It's a hummingbird moth. They're about the size of a bumble-bee.

 I don't know the scientific name.


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Re: PESO: What the HELL is this?

[Walt Gilbert]

Thank you, Frank!

-- Walt

On 8/15/2012 9:00 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Well, it's a heck of a photo for starters.

cheers,
frank

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
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From: Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com
Sent: August 15, 2012 8/15/12
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: What the HELL is this?

So, I took the K20D with the Promaster 70-300 out this morning to work
on my manual focusing skills, and happened to catch this out of the
corner of my eye -- thinking it was a hummingbird. The thing is pretty
damned sizable.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7789467090/
ISO 320, 1/180, f/7.1

If it's some kind of bee, it's not like any I've ever seen before. But,
I'm sure some PDML'er will be able to inform me.

-- Walt

P/S: I also got a couple of hummer shots while I was out there:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7789469050/

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7789466064/




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Re: PESO: What the HELL is this?

[Walt Gilbert]

This appears to be the one:

http://www.birds-n-garden.com/snowberry_clearwing_hummingbird_moths.html

/Hemaris diffinis/, according to that page. And it looks to be a pretty 
good match for the one in the photo.


-- Walt

On 8/15/2012 9:39 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

Hummicum Mothicae

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:19 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

From: Walt Gilbert



So, I took the K20D with the Promaster 70-300 out this morning to
work on my manual focusing skills, and happened to catch this out of
the corner of my eye -- thinking it was a hummingbird. The thing is
pretty damned sizable.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7789467090/ ISO 320,
1/180, f/7.1

If it's some kind of bee, it's not like any I've ever seen before.
But, I'm sure some PDML'er will be able to inform me.


It's a hummingbird moth. They're about the size of a bumble-bee.

I don't know the scientific name.


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Re: PESO: What the HELL is this?

[steve harley]

on 2012-08-15 20:50 Walt Gilbert wrote

This appears to be the one:

http://www.birds-n-garden.com/snowberry_clearwing_hummingbird_moths.html

/Hemaris diffinis/, according to that page. And it looks to be a pretty good
match for the one in the photo.


cool shot, and no doubt about that identification

out here we have a different moth with similar behavior, larger i think, that 
is a favorite of our cats in early summer:


http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopExt/4DMG/Pests/hummingb.htm


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Re: PESO: What the HELL is this?

[Walt Gilbert]

On 8/15/2012 11:02 PM, steve harley wrote:

on 2012-08-15 20:50 Walt Gilbert wrote

This appears to be the one:

http://www.birds-n-garden.com/snowberry_clearwing_hummingbird_moths.html

/Hemaris diffinis/, according to that page. And it looks to be a 
pretty good

match for the one in the photo.


cool shot, and no doubt about that identification

out here we have a different moth with similar behavior, larger i 
think, that is a favorite of our cats in early summer:


http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/CoopExt/4DMG/Pests/hummingb.htm



Thanks, Steve!

That's a great-looking moth. Have you tried getting photos of them? I 
bet they'd make a pretty striking photo in good light.


-- Walt

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Re: PESO: What the HELL is this?

[steve harley]

on 2012-08-15 22:05 Walt Gilbert wrote


That's a great-looking moth. Have you tried getting photos of them? I bet
they'd make a pretty striking photo in good light.


i haven't photographed them yet; they are elusive and and i see them most often 
at dusk, but i've got a ring flash now that might help next season




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Re: PESO -- What am I?

[John Sessoms]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's the photo I meant. It's the one that links 
from Wikipedia:


File:Killdeer (Charadrius vociferus) -female on nest.jpg

I see a black eye with a red surround. The upper part is shadowed  kind 
of dull, but the red appears to go completely around the eye.


There's a white ring that goes all the way around the neck with a black 
ring below it. The second white  black rings below that don't go all 
the way around because of the brown feathers on the back.


A search for Killdeer in Google Images also turned up many images 
showing the red circle around the eye.


I also found this: 
http://naturemappingfoundation.org/natmap/facts/killdeer_712.html


: Killdeer (Charadrius vociferus)
: Species code: CHVO
:
: Description: The Killdeer is the largest of the ringed plovers, and
: the only plover in its range with a double breast band. Killdeers
: have brown upperparts, white underparts, and orange rumps. The eyes
: are dark with a bright red eye ring (see photo below). In flight, the
: Killdeer's long, slender wings have conspicuous white wing stripes.




John - is this the photo you meant to send? cant see a red circle around eye

ann

On 5/9/2012 22:56, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Jeffery Smith

The killdeer photos seem to be consistent with two black rings around
the neck area rather than one.

The second ring is hidden by the angle it's photographed from. It
extends across the chest lower than the ring around the neck.

Here's a good closeup that shows the red circle around the eye  how the
lower black ring is not complete.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Killdeer_%28Charadrius_vociferus%29_-female_on_nest.jpg


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RE: PESO -- What am I?

[Bob W]

 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 John Sessoms

 A search for Killdeer in Google Images also turned up many images
 showing the red circle around the eye.

They must be heavy drinkers.

B

 
 I also found this:
 http://naturemappingfoundation.org/natmap/facts/killdeer_712.html
 
 : Killdeer (Charadrius vociferus)
 : Species code: CHVO
 :
 : Description: The Killdeer is the largest of the ringed plovers, and
 : the only plover in its range with a double breast band. Killdeers
 : have brown upperparts, white underparts, and orange rumps. The eyes
 : are dark with a bright red eye ring (see photo below). In flight, the
 : Killdeer's long, slender wings have conspicuous white wing stripes.
 
 
 
  John - is this the photo you meant to send? cant see a red circle
  around eye
 
  ann
 
  On 5/9/2012 22:56, John Sessoms wrote:
  From: Jeffery Smith
  The killdeer photos seem to be consistent with two black rings
  around the neck area rather than one.
  The second ring is hidden by the angle it's photographed from. It
  extends across the chest lower than the ring around the neck.
 
  Here's a good closeup that shows the red circle around the eye  how
  the lower black ring is not complete.
 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Killdeer_%28Charadrius_vociferus%29
  _-female_on_nest.jpg
 
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Re: PESO -- What am I?

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On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:38 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

 One last shot from Monday.  I wanted to identify this bird before I posted
 this but I can't.  The closest I could come is a Semipalmated Plover.  But
 this bird has very noticeable red ring around it's eye.  Otherwise it's a
 good match.  Anyone have any ideas?

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20whatami.html

That's a Killdeer. They're often seen in parking lots and and the
roofs of buildings (they like nesting in gravel), but every now and
then they remember they're plovers and get their feet wet.

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Re: PESO -- What am I?

[P. J. Alling]

I'm not sure you're right.  It's similar in markings but there are 
differences that would probably be sugnificiant to another bird.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Killdeer.jpg

On 5/9/2012 3:45 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:38 PM, P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com  wrote:


One last shot from Monday.  I wanted to identify this bird before I posted
this but I can't.  The closest I could come is a Semipalmated Plover.  But
this bird has very noticeable red ring around it's eye.  Otherwise it's a
good match.  Anyone have any ideas?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20whatami.html

That's a Killdeer. They're often seen in parking lots and and the
roofs of buildings (they like nesting in gravel), but every now and
then they remember they're plovers and get their feet wet.




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Re: PESO -- What am I?

[P. J. Alling]

That should be significant I have no idea what sugnificiant means...

On 5/9/2012 4:23 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
I'm not sure you're right.  It's similar in markings but there are 
differences that would probably be sugnificiant to another bird.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Killdeer.jpg

On 5/9/2012 3:45 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:38 PM, P. J. 
Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com  wrote:


One last shot from Monday.  I wanted to identify this bird before I 
posted
this but I can't.  The closest I could come is a Semipalmated 
Plover.  But
this bird has very noticeable red ring around it's eye.  Otherwise 
it's a

good match.  Anyone have any ideas?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20whatami.html

That's a Killdeer. They're often seen in parking lots and and the
roofs of buildings (they like nesting in gravel), but every now and
then they remember they're plovers and get their feet wet.







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Re: PESO -- What am I?

[Jack Davis]

My dandy field guide appears to verify all marking but for the distinct red 
ring around the eye.(?)
 
Jack

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Subject: PESO -- What am I?

One last shot from Monday.  I wanted to identify this bird before I posted this 
but I can't.  The closest I could come is a Semipalmated Plover.  But this bird 
has very noticeable red ring around it's eye.  Otherwise it's a good match.  
Anyone have any ideas?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20whatami.html

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Re: PESO -- What am I?

[John Sessoms]

From: Jeffery Smith

The killdeer photos seem to be consistent with two black rings around the neck 
area rather than one.


The second ring is hidden by the angle it's photographed from. It 
extends across the chest lower than the ring around the neck.


Here's a good closeup that shows the red circle around the eye  how the 
lower black ring is not complete.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Killdeer_%28Charadrius_vociferus%29_-female_on_nest.jpg

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Re: PESO -- What am I?

[Ann Sanfedele]

John - is this the photo you meant to send? cant see a red circle around 
eye


ann



On 5/9/2012 22:56, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Jeffery Smith

The killdeer photos seem to be consistent with two black rings around
the neck area rather than one.


The second ring is hidden by the angle it's photographed from. It
extends across the chest lower than the ring around the neck.

Here's a good closeup that shows the red circle around the eye  how the
lower black ring is not complete.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Killdeer_%28Charadrius_vociferus%29_-female_on_nest.jpg




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Re: PESO -- What am I?

[kwaller]

According to my 'Birds of Michigan Field Guide its definitely a Kildeer,

Kenneth Waller
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From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com

Subject: PESO -- What am I?


One last shot from Monday.  I wanted to identify this bird before I posted 
this but I can't.  The closest I could come is a Semipalmated Plover.  But 
this bird has very noticeable red ring around it's eye.  Otherwise it's a 
good match.  Anyone have any ideas?


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20whatami.html

Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax A*300mm f4.0/smc Pentax F 1.7x AF 
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Re: PESO -- What Moi?

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Kenneth Waller
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Subject: PESO -- What Moi?


So the day before yesterday I was taking the dog for a walk and did not 
take a camera with me.  During that entire time there was a big beautiful 
hawk patrolling the sky within easy reach of the A*300mm with F 1.7x 
adapter.   It seemed to be following our path.  I get back home, get the 
dog situated, grab the K20 A*300 and F 1.7x rush outside and it's GONE. 
(You knew that was going to be upshot didn't you?)  I go back inside and 
there's the dog with a sheepish expression, (I still don't know what he 
was doing wrong).


So maybe the dog ate him.

Swapped lenses and viola.


Things you'll notice immediately,

1.) He really needs to be groomed, (that's all fur, he's really quite a 
skinny little pup).


2.) Somebodies been chewing on the furniture behind him, (no not him, a 
long gone predecessor.


3.) This is really lame compared to a closeup of a hawk on the wing...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--whatmoi.html

Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0

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Re: PESO -- What Moi?

[Walt Gilbert]

I have horrible hawk-luck myself, P.J. So, I can readily sympathize.

But that is a great-looking creature you have there, and a fun photo. :) 
Looks like maybe he got into someone's stash.


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On 3/10/2012 11:50 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
So the day before yesterday I was taking the dog for a walk and did 
not take a camera with me.  During that entire time there was a big 
beautiful hawk patrolling the sky within easy reach of the A*300mm 
with F 1.7x adapter.   It seemed to be following our path.  I get back 
home, get the dog situated, grab the K20 A*300 and F 1.7x rush outside 
and it's GONE.  (You knew that was going to be upshot didn't you?)  I 
go back inside and there's the dog with a sheepish expression, (I 
still don't know what he was doing wrong).  Swapped lenses and viola.


Things you'll notice immediately,

1.) He really needs to be groomed, (that's all fur, he's really quite 
a skinny little pup).


2.) Somebodies been chewing on the furniture behind him, (no not him, 
a long gone predecessor.


3.) This is really lame compared to a closeup of a hawk on the wing...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--whatmoi.html

Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0

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Re: PESO -- What Moi?

[Bob Sullivan]

Maybe the hawk wanted the dog...

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:50 AM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 So the day before yesterday I was taking the dog for a walk and did not take
 a camera with me.  During that entire time there was a big beautiful hawk
 patrolling the sky within easy reach of the A*300mm with F 1.7x adapter.
 It seemed to be following our path.  I get back home, get the dog situated,
 grab the K20 A*300 and F 1.7x rush outside and it's GONE.  (You knew that
 was going to be upshot didn't you?)  I go back inside and there's the dog
 with a sheepish expression, (I still don't know what he was doing wrong).
  Swapped lenses and viola.

 Things you'll notice immediately,

 1.) He really needs to be groomed, (that's all fur, he's really quite a
 skinny little pup).

 2.) Somebodies been chewing on the furniture behind him, (no not him, a long
 gone predecessor.

 3.) This is really lame compared to a closeup of a hawk on the wing...

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--whatmoi.html

 Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax M 85mm f2.0

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Re: PESO- What I was shooting...

[Ann Sanfedele]

Bong Manayon wrote:


...when Jostein shot me in the back :-)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/5485388754/

I think there was a thread about landscape vs. portrait orientation
somewhere but I think it had to do with monitor sizes...I think.
Anyway, that came into mind because I 'normally' see things in the
portrait orientation: I owe that to the fact I learned to compose with
a half-frame Olympus PEN EE-2 :-D

Bong
 

Contrary girl that I am, I like your first lanscape oriented one in that 
set a tad better.
But  portrait orientation works better for most magazine and book covers.  


Yeah there was a discussion about the monitor aspect ratios and such...

I' m definitely more of a landscape orientation shooter - easier to keep 
the camera steady.
I've been more concious of doing that, too, since I'm thinking about 
what would work on

calendars...

ann




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Re: PESO- What I was shooting...

[David J Brooks]

Lovely, it was worth the bullet.

Dave

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...when Jostein shot me in the back :-)

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/5485388754/

 I think there was a thread about landscape vs. portrait orientation
 somewhere but I think it had to do with monitor sizes...I think.
 Anyway, that came into mind because I 'normally' see things in the
 portrait orientation: I owe that to the fact I learned to compose with
 a half-frame Olympus PEN EE-2 :-D

 Bong
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Re: PESO- What I was shooting...

[Brian Walters]

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:17 +0800, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
wrote:
 ...when Jostein shot me in the back :-)
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/5485388754/
 
 I think there was a thread about landscape vs. portrait orientation
 somewhere but I think it had to do with monitor sizes...I think.
 Anyway, that came into mind because I 'normally' see things in the
 portrait orientation: I owe that to the fact I learned to compose with
 a half-frame Olympus PEN EE-2 :-D


Portrait works fine here.  Beautiful shot and the patch of light on the
water is subtle but enhances the mood.

(The portrait/landscape discussion was in relation to viewing images in
the PUG. Some - me included - dislike having to scroll portrait format
images when they don't fit fully on the screen - no such problem here!)


Cheers

Brian

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Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/


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