Re: Switching to Pentax
Bruce wrote:
>FYI
>Nikon deleted the aperture ring only from their "G", cheapo lenses. This only
>effects users of MF bodies. The aperture is controlled from the body for
>all of
>the AF cameras. All the AF lenses have a lock to keep the lens at its smallest
>aperture ("A") setting.
>Canon and Minolta dropped the aperture ring when they to AF, with new lens
>mounts and also body controlled f stop.
Nope. Nikon have just shown the AF-S 70-200/2.8 VR G lens without aperture
ring. This lens ain't going to be cheap. I guess this signalizes that Nikon
will convert gradually to G lenses without aperture rings.
Pål
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Re: Switching to Pentax
>That would be the only reason to replace the diaphragm ring, to save money. >I doubt very much the Nikon is removing them from their lenses because >their user base demanded it. Pentax would kill herself if they dump the aperture ring. At least tons of loyal Pentax users need it (for current cameras). regards, Alan Chan _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.; - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Switching to Pentax
That would be the only reason to replace the diaphragm ring, to save money. I doubt very much the Nikon is removing them from their lenses because their user base demanded it. At 12:12 PM 2/24/2002 +0100, you wrote: >Cac> It is conceivable that Pentax might choose to go the same way >without a lens with aperture ring as an option as they now have no >manual focus old tech SLR in the 35mm range. >Cac> What do you think? >Cac> Kind regards from sunny Brighton >Cac> Peter > >Hi Peter, >I think it was great idea that Pentax used the little A lock on >their mount, instead of Olympus and Nikon "A" lenses, which have no >lock AFAIK. With a lock for the A setting, I really don't see any >need for discontinuing the aperture ring at all. Except perhaps >making more money on each lens, as perhaps a calibrated motor is >cheaper than a precise mechanical aperture linkage from ring to >body and diaphragm ;-( > >Good light, >Frantisek Vlcek >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, >go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to >visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Switching to Pentax
On Monday, February 25, 2002, at 07:45 AM, David Brooks wrote: > Although this switch does come loose on occasion,like > for instance, on my first job with the D1.I turned the > camera on and all i got was a blinking FEE.Major > panic as i see my carrer hit the tubes.Thank God > i had the manual in the truck and was able to solve > the problem and have a great day. Yup, every time a customer has come in and said, "I think my F50 is broken", the culprit has been that pesky aperture ring. Every time, without fail. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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On Sunday, February 24, 2002, at 03:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It is conceivable that Pentax might choose to go the same way without > a lens with aperture ring as an option as they now have no manual > focus old tech SLR in the 35mm range. Even the MZ-S relies on the aperture ring to set aperture, so I don't see them ditching it any time soon. :) Thank God. My LX would be sad if lovely lenses like the limiteds or the FA* 24mm f2.0 were off limits to it. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Switching to Pentax
I used to have an XR-2s with a winder, but I traded it years ago for 645 lenses (plus cash). I still have an XR-X laying around (international version of the XR-M). With it I have the 50mm F2 Ricoh lens, the detachable PX flash (broken latch, so it has to be removed when not in use) and the 300P TTL flash (corroded contacts, but it works). Right now it's in my daughter's posession, but she can be coerced on giving it up. Jeff - Original Message - From: "Nitin Garg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 8:20 PM Subject: Re: Switching to Pentax > dont make me lust after it as well :) I have a xr-10 and a xr-10m. Been > hunting for a xr-m and lusting for xr-x3pf. I guess xr-2 wont be needed > once i have these :) > > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 08:06:54PM -0500, Mark Cassino wrote: > > I'd second that - the XR-2 is a fantastic camera. All manual, mirror > > pre-fire via the self timer, DOF preview, PC jack, and a little window in > > the pentaprism to let you see the aperture setting (like the MX and > > LX.) It also has a needle meter display, and the analog info is great. > > > > - MCC > > > > At 07:45 PM 2/24/02 -0500, you wrote: > > >speaking of quality cameras by lesser popular brands, the ricoh k-mount > > >cameras are amazing. The performance/price ratio one can hit on them due > > >to low demand is really cool. They are my preffered manual focus k-mount > > >bodies. > > > > - - - - - - - - - - > > Mark Cassino > > Kalamazoo, MI > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - - - - - - - - - - > > Photos: > > http://www.markcassino.com > > - - - - - - - - - - > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Switching to Pentax
Although this switch does come loose on occasion,like for instance, on my first job with the D1.I turned the camera on and all i got was a blinking FEE.Major panic as i see my carrer hit the tubes.Thank God i had the manual in the truck and was able to solve the problem and have a great day. Dave Begin Original Message From: Chris Brogden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 12:35:42 -0600 (CST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Switching to Pentax On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, William Robb wrote: > That was one of those things I never did figure out. Minolta MD > lenses had an aperture lock, as did Canon FD lenses, and of > course Pentax A lenses. > Nikon, in their wisdom, never added this to their lenses. Uh... yeah, they did. :) Here's a pic: http://www.aiconversions.com/images/VGA242.8AFTop.jpg The switch on the right lets you lock or unlock the aperture ring at the auto/f22 setting. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Switching to Pentax
In a message dated 24/02/02 13:25:31 GMT Standard Time, Pal writes: << If that is the only reason wouldn't it be easier to just put a locket "A" setting on the aperture ring like Pentax does? >> Well, they already have a minimum aperture lock - but it's a tiny thing and quite simple to overlook. One would suppose that the lenses were left on min aperture lock all the time - except when using the backup FM2/FM3/F3/F2 whatever. It seems that there are other reasons, don't you agree? Kind regards from sunny Brighton Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Switching to Pentax
And this little piece of junk also has a mirror pre-fire. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of William Robb > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 9:51 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Switching to Pentax > > > - Original Message - > From: "Ed Mathews" > Subject: RE: Switching to Pentax > > > > I'm not saying this just to be a "anti Pentax" jerk, but I > feel I need > > to state it: My late father's one and only SLR was a new > Nikon EM, and > > I still have it, and my kids still use it when they want to > shoot with > > an SLR. It has NEVER seen a CLA, and I've replaced the > battery only > > twice. It exposes perfectly and has never failed or produced > a negative > > I could say was bad due to the camera. AND it accepts all > my > > current AF Nikkor lenses with full camera functions. I > suspect many > > could say the same about their old K-1000 too. Inexpensive > does not > > necessarily mean junk. > > The camera that goes byup, byup. My wifes old boss had one of > those. The only problem with the EM was that it was AE only. > It was actually a pretty tough little camera. A knowedgable > operator could set the aperture where he wanted it, then dial > in the shutter speed using the ISO dial. The advantage of the > EM was that it didn't have the flexible curcuit board that > the FG/ FG20 had, which is what made that series so > unreliable. The downside is that full camera functions is > pretty limited on that camera. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Switching to Pentax
Adding insult to injury to NIKON regressing, their new F55 has not got TTL HA HA...how con a manufacturer do that? the hotshoe looks like the spotmatics! Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Switching to Pentax
Cac> It is conceivable that Pentax might choose to go the same way without a lens with aperture ring as an option as they now have no manual focus old tech SLR in the 35mm range. Cac> What do you think? Cac> Kind regards from sunny Brighton Cac> Peter Hi Peter, I think it was great idea that Pentax used the little A lock on their mount, instead of Olympus and Nikon "A" lenses, which have no lock AFAIK. With a lock for the A setting, I really don't see any need for discontinuing the aperture ring at all. Except perhaps making more money on each lens, as perhaps a calibrated motor is cheaper than a precise mechanical aperture linkage from ring to body and diaphragm ;-( Good light, Frantisek Vlcek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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- Original Message - From: "Ed Mathews" Subject: RE: Switching to Pentax > I'm not saying this just to be a "anti Pentax" jerk, but I feel I need > to state it: My late father's one and only SLR was a new Nikon EM, and > I still have it, and my kids still use it when they want to shoot with > an SLR. It has NEVER seen a CLA, and I've replaced the battery only > twice. It exposes perfectly and has never failed or produced a negative > I could say was bad due to the camera. AND it accepts all my > current AF Nikkor lenses with full camera functions. I suspect many > could say the same about their old K-1000 too. Inexpensive does not > necessarily mean junk. The camera that goes byup, byup. My wifes old boss had one of those. The only problem with the EM was that it was AE only. It was actually a pretty tough little camera. A knowedgable operator could set the aperture where he wanted it, then dial in the shutter speed using the ISO dial. The advantage of the EM was that it didn't have the flexible curcuit board that the FG/ FG20 had, which is what made that series so unreliable. The downside is that full camera functions is pretty limited on that camera. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Switching to Pentax
I'm not saying this just to be a "anti Pentax" jerk, but I feel I need to state it: My late father's one and only SLR was a new Nikon EM, and I still have it, and my kids still use it when they want to shoot with an SLR. It has NEVER seen a CLA, and I've replaced the battery only twice. It exposes perfectly and has never failed or produced a negative I could say was bad due to the camera. AND it accepts all my current AF Nikkor lenses with full camera functions. I suspect many could say the same about their old K-1000 too. Inexpensive does not necessarily mean junk. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of T Rittenhouse > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 7:20 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Switching to Pentax > > > At one time the was the Nikon F. It was the only SLR Nikon > made. The made two RFs back in those days but the difference > was features, not quality. Nikon meant quality. Then > Marketing looked around and said, Nikon means quality, we > will produce junk cameras with the Nikon name on them, the > unwashed will not know the difference. An behold, they were > right, the unwashed show you their EM and said it's a Nikon! > Then all the other Makers, said this is good! And proceed to > make all kinds of cameras with their names on them. Most were > cheap junk, but a few who were known for cheap junk actually > made quality cameras and put their names on them. The fell by > the wayside for the unwashed said, look how much they want > for that cheap junk camer when I can get a Nikon for half the price. > > The moral of this story? The unwashed get what they deserve, screwed. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Switching to Pentax
on 2/25/02 1:06 AM, Mark Cassino at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'd second that - the XR-2 is a fantastic camera. All manual, mirror > pre-fire via the self timer, DOF preview, PC jack, and a little window in > the pentaprism to let you see the aperture setting (like the MX and > LX.) It also has a needle meter display, and the analog info is great. > > - MCC I agree with one exception. I prefer the XR-1, same features w/o the AE option so it will function with dead batteries. Next best thing to a KX. Another good K-body in the Chinon CP-5s/CP-6 which has lacks the DOF preview but has a spotmeter and two program modes. They will also use ANY k-mount lens in program or aperture priority modes, just set it to the minimum size aperture. JeffW. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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dont make me lust after it as well :) I have a xr-10 and a xr-10m. Been hunting for a xr-m and lusting for xr-x3pf. I guess xr-2 wont be needed once i have these :) On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 08:06:54PM -0500, Mark Cassino wrote: > I'd second that - the XR-2 is a fantastic camera. All manual, mirror > pre-fire via the self timer, DOF preview, PC jack, and a little window in > the pentaprism to let you see the aperture setting (like the MX and > LX.) It also has a needle meter display, and the analog info is great. > > - MCC > > At 07:45 PM 2/24/02 -0500, you wrote: > >speaking of quality cameras by lesser popular brands, the ricoh k-mount > >cameras are amazing. The performance/price ratio one can hit on them due > >to low demand is really cool. They are my preffered manual focus k-mount > >bodies. > > - - - - - - - - - - > Mark Cassino > Kalamazoo, MI > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - - - - - - - - - - > Photos: > http://www.markcassino.com > - - - - - - - - - - > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Switching to Pentax
I'd second that - the XR-2 is a fantastic camera. All manual, mirror pre-fire via the self timer, DOF preview, PC jack, and a little window in the pentaprism to let you see the aperture setting (like the MX and LX.) It also has a needle meter display, and the analog info is great. - MCC At 07:45 PM 2/24/02 -0500, you wrote: >speaking of quality cameras by lesser popular brands, the ricoh k-mount >cameras are amazing. The performance/price ratio one can hit on them due >to low demand is really cool. They are my preffered manual focus k-mount >bodies. - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Switching to Pentax
speaking of quality cameras by lesser popular brands, the ricoh k-mount cameras are amazing. The performance/price ratio one can hit on them due to low demand is really cool. They are my preffered manual focus k-mount bodies. cheers, nitin On Sun, Feb 24, 2002 at 07:19:55PM -0500, T Rittenhouse wrote: > At one time the was the Nikon F. It was the only SLR Nikon made. The made > two RFs back in those days but the difference was features, not quality. > Nikon meant quality. Then Marketing looked around and said, Nikon means > quality, we will produce junk cameras with the Nikon name on them, the > unwashed will not know the difference. An behold, they were right, the > unwashed show you their EM and said it's a Nikon! Then all the other Makers, > said this is good! And proceed to make all kinds of cameras with their names > on them. Most were cheap junk, but a few who were known for cheap junk > actually made quality cameras and put their names on them. The fell by the > wayside for the unwashed said, look how much they want for that cheap junk > camer when I can get a Nikon for half the price. > > The moral of this story? The unwashed get what they deserve, screwed. > > Ciao, > Graywolf > > > > - Original Message - > From: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 2:51 PM > Subject: Re: Switching to Pentax > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Ed Mathews" > > Subject: RE: Switching to Pentax > > > > > > > All AF Nikkors have always had an aperture lock. And Nikon > > has great > > > compatibility amongst most of their bodies. I can use all my > > current AF > > > lenses on my 20 year old F3 with full function, and old AI > > lenses from > > > the 70's work fine on my F100. Sure, they have some issues > > with their > > > amateur line cameras, but the people that buy those are by and > > large not > > > looking for complete compatibility with old stuff anyway. And > > Pentax > > > has some issues with some of their cheapest AF bodies also. I > > think > > > both Pentax and Nikon need to be commended on their > > compatibility > > > between most bodies for older and newer items working > > together, > > > especially comparing AF and non AF items. They are in a > > different > > > league than Canon and Minolta in this regard. > > > > My old non AI Nikkors would not mount on my FM or FM2. I could > > mount them on my FE, but I lost open aperture metering. These > > were not bottom of the range cameras, BTW. The cure was to send > > the lenses in for new and ugly plastic aperture rings, and they > > only did this for a couple of years, and it wasn't cheap. After > > they stopped putting aperture tabs on the AI lenses, they would > > no longer meter couple to my F2. > > Then there was an entire range of camera bodies that didn't have > > the flip up aperture coupler tab, so you couldn't mount a non > > AI'd lens, no matter what. > > The cure was to remove the aperture ring and grind (file) away a > > chunk of it so that the lens would mount. If you were off by a > > bit, so what? It just meant you couldn't trust your light meter > > with that lens anymore. > > And there was an entire range of cameras that just simply would > > not work at all with anything other than an AF lens > > Nikon forced their users to make expensive equipment upgrades to > > continue using their equipment in the cross platform way that we > > take for granted with Pentax. > > At the time, I didn't really see why I should have to buy 3 F3 > > bodies, just to have reasonable redundancy WRT backup cameras, > > and be able to use all my available lenses. > > They are still playing the same game, by forcing people to buy > > either their top tier cameras to get complete compatability with > > their older lenses. > > Pentax has dropped full compatability on their cheapest AF > > camera body, recently. > > This may indicate a trend, but I hope not. If it does, they are, > > at least, 20 years behind Nikon in this respect, which is, IMO, > > a good thing. > > > > William Robb > > - > > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Switching to Pentax
At one time the was the Nikon F. It was the only SLR Nikon made. The made two RFs back in those days but the difference was features, not quality. Nikon meant quality. Then Marketing looked around and said, Nikon means quality, we will produce junk cameras with the Nikon name on them, the unwashed will not know the difference. An behold, they were right, the unwashed show you their EM and said it's a Nikon! Then all the other Makers, said this is good! And proceed to make all kinds of cameras with their names on them. Most were cheap junk, but a few who were known for cheap junk actually made quality cameras and put their names on them. The fell by the wayside for the unwashed said, look how much they want for that cheap junk camer when I can get a Nikon for half the price. The moral of this story? The unwashed get what they deserve, screwed. Ciao, Graywolf - Original Message - From: William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 2:51 PM Subject: Re: Switching to Pentax > - Original Message - > From: "Ed Mathews" > Subject: RE: Switching to Pentax > > > > All AF Nikkors have always had an aperture lock. And Nikon > has great > > compatibility amongst most of their bodies. I can use all my > current AF > > lenses on my 20 year old F3 with full function, and old AI > lenses from > > the 70's work fine on my F100. Sure, they have some issues > with their > > amateur line cameras, but the people that buy those are by and > large not > > looking for complete compatibility with old stuff anyway. And > Pentax > > has some issues with some of their cheapest AF bodies also. I > think > > both Pentax and Nikon need to be commended on their > compatibility > > between most bodies for older and newer items working > together, > > especially comparing AF and non AF items. They are in a > different > > league than Canon and Minolta in this regard. > > My old non AI Nikkors would not mount on my FM or FM2. I could > mount them on my FE, but I lost open aperture metering. These > were not bottom of the range cameras, BTW. The cure was to send > the lenses in for new and ugly plastic aperture rings, and they > only did this for a couple of years, and it wasn't cheap. After > they stopped putting aperture tabs on the AI lenses, they would > no longer meter couple to my F2. > Then there was an entire range of camera bodies that didn't have > the flip up aperture coupler tab, so you couldn't mount a non > AI'd lens, no matter what. > The cure was to remove the aperture ring and grind (file) away a > chunk of it so that the lens would mount. If you were off by a > bit, so what? It just meant you couldn't trust your light meter > with that lens anymore. > And there was an entire range of cameras that just simply would > not work at all with anything other than an AF lens > Nikon forced their users to make expensive equipment upgrades to > continue using their equipment in the cross platform way that we > take for granted with Pentax. > At the time, I didn't really see why I should have to buy 3 F3 > bodies, just to have reasonable redundancy WRT backup cameras, > and be able to use all my available lenses. > They are still playing the same game, by forcing people to buy > either their top tier cameras to get complete compatability with > their older lenses. > Pentax has dropped full compatability on their cheapest AF > camera body, recently. > This may indicate a trend, but I hope not. If it does, they are, > at least, 20 years behind Nikon in this respect, which is, IMO, > a good thing. > > William Robb > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Switching to Pentax
- Original Message - From: "Chris Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 12:35 PM Subject: Re: Switching to Pentax > On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, William Robb wrote: > > > That was one of those things I never did figure out. Minolta MD > > lenses had an aperture lock, as did Canon FD lenses, and of > > course Pentax A lenses. > > Nikon, in their wisdom, never added this to their lenses. > > Uh... yeah, they did. :) Here's a pic: > > http://www.aiconversions.com/images/VGA242.8AFTop.jpg > > The switch on the right lets you lock or unlock the aperture ring at the > auto/f22 setting. You know, when I was writing that posting, I was thinking I had seen an aperture lock on some of their lenses from the mid to late 80's. I take it this was a short term experiment? William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Switching to Pentax
All AF Nikkors have always had an aperture lock. And Nikon has great compatibility amongst most of their bodies. I can use all my current AF lenses on my 20 year old F3 with full function, and old AI lenses from the 70's work fine on my F100. Sure, they have some issues with their amateur line cameras, but the people that buy those are by and large not looking for complete compatibility with old stuff anyway. And Pentax has some issues with some of their cheapest AF bodies also. I think both Pentax and Nikon need to be commended on their compatibility between most bodies for older and newer items working together, especially comparing AF and non AF items. They are in a different league than Canon and Minolta in this regard. Thanks, Ed http://lightandsilver.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of William Robb > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 10:22 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Switching to Pentax > That was one of those things I never did figure out. Minolta > MD lenses had an aperture lock, as did Canon FD lenses, and > of course Pentax A lenses. Nikon, in their wisdom, never > added this to their lenses. Interestingly, it has been the > aperture coupling that has buggered up Nikons lens/body > intercompatability, which is very Hoover like, with entire > lens series being unusable on most bodies since the advent of > the AI lenses. It was this incompatability issue that helped > drive me from Nikon to Pentax in the first place. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Switching to Pentax
On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, William Robb wrote: > That was one of those things I never did figure out. Minolta MD > lenses had an aperture lock, as did Canon FD lenses, and of > course Pentax A lenses. > Nikon, in their wisdom, never added this to their lenses. Uh... yeah, they did. :) Here's a pic: http://www.aiconversions.com/images/VGA242.8AFTop.jpg The switch on the right lets you lock or unlock the aperture ring at the auto/f22 setting. chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Switching to Pentax
- Original Message - From: "Pål Audun Jensen" Subject: Re: Switching to Pentax > Peter wrote: > > > >Being also on the Nikon lists, I can offer another perspective here. Pros are > >welcoming this change as it means that they can no longer make occasional > >errors with > >the aperture ring (current Nikon AF lenses must be set to minimum aperture > >for f-stop > >control thru the control dial on the rear of the body). > > > If that is the only reason wouldn't it be easier to just put a locket "A" > setting on the aperture ring like Pentax does? That was one of those things I never did figure out. Minolta MD lenses had an aperture lock, as did Canon FD lenses, and of course Pentax A lenses. Nikon, in their wisdom, never added this to their lenses. Interestingly, it has been the aperture coupling that has buggered up Nikons lens/body intercompatability, which is very Hoover like, with entire lens series being unusable on most bodies since the advent of the AI lenses. It was this incompatability issue that helped drive me from Nikon to Pentax in the first place. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Switching to Pentax
Andreas Wirtz wrote: > Unfortunately it is not gonig ahead, too... > Andreas Wirtz > Raul Lithgo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am switching to Pentax which is not going backwards. If it is not going backwards or ahead, it must be going nowhere. Not very confidence building. :) Bob - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Switching to Pentax
Unfortunately it is not gonig ahead, too... Andreas Wirtz Raul Lithgo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am switching to Pentax which is not going backwards. Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Switching to Pentax
Peter wrote: >Being also on the Nikon lists, I can offer another perspective here. Pros are >welcoming this change as it means that they can no longer make occasional >errors with >the aperture ring (current Nikon AF lenses must be set to minimum aperture >for f-stop >control thru the control dial on the rear of the body). If that is the only reason wouldn't it be easier to just put a locket "A" setting on the aperture ring like Pentax does? Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Switching to Pentax
Peter wrote: >It is conceivable that Pentax might choose to go the same way without a >lens with >aperture ring as an option as they now have no manual focus old tech >SLR in the >35mm range. I don't think they will since most of their cameras currently sold is dependent on an aperture ring. The lack of aperture ring is for one reason only; save cost. It may not make much difference on an expensive lens as the VR 70-200 Nikkor but it make great deal over a whole lens line. This probably signalize that Nikon will gradually phase out the aperture ring on their lenses becoming more like Canon. This could probably be understood in the light of digital. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Switching to Pentax
<> Being also on the Nikon lists, I can offer another perspective here. Pros are welcoming this change as it means that they can no longer make occasional errors with the aperture ring (current Nikon AF lenses must be set to minimum aperture for f-stop control thru the control dial on the rear of the body). That is simple to understand from my perspective, as a one-time fumbling pap and sports pj. The new lens will not exist for quite a while, being simply "jam tomorrow" spoiler to attempt to plug the drain to EOS. It is a VR lens, a feature which is not available to FM3 etc users, - they currently offer 2 types of 80-200mm F2.8 lens - an AFS fast AF type, and another AF lens at 30% lower price. Both have conventional aperture rings. It is conceivable that Pentax might choose to go the same way without a lens with aperture ring as an option as they now have no manual focus old tech SLR in the 35mm range. What do you think? Kind regards from sunny Brighton Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
