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2010/7/9 Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com: I thought George figured out it was Haydon. You better stop accusing our composers there, buster! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bob W wrote: [...] Did anyone ask if he was a Soviet mole? I'm sure I'm not the only one who was thinking about it, but no - nobody asked. Personally I don't think he was a mole. He left the party in 1939 over the von Ribbentrop pact, had an honourable war record, and could never have been Minister of Defence if there had been any serious doubts about him (unless MI6 were playing a very risky game indeed). Incidentally, at 93 he is almost unrecognisably different from the jolly silly billy of the 70s. Still, he (almost) singlehandedly stopped the TSR2 programme that was acknowledged to put us at least 25 years ahead of the game at the time. Could have had Ronnie's Star Wars effect 30 year earlier. Can't help but be suspicious and I really don't know if I could resist asking, given the opportunity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/7/9 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: Still, he (almost) singlehandedly stopped the TSR2 programme that was acknowledged to put us at least 25 years ahead of the game at the time. Could have had Ronnie's Star Wars effect 30 year earlier. Can't help but be suspicious and I really don't know if I could resist asking, given the opportunity. Of course he wouldn't lie about it either *duckrun* -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Did anyone ask if he was a Soviet mole? I'm sure I'm not the only one who was thinking about it, but no - nobody asked. Personally I don't think he was a mole. He left the party in 1939 over the von Ribbentrop pact, had an honourable war record, and could never have been Minister of Defence if there had been any serious doubts about him (unless MI6 were playing a very risky game indeed). Incidentally, at 93 he is almost unrecognisably different from the jolly silly billy of the 70s. Still, he (almost) singlehandedly stopped the TSR2 programme that was acknowledged to put us at least 25 years ahead of the game at the time. Could have had Ronnie's Star Wars effect 30 year earlier. Can't help but be suspicious and I really don't know if I could resist asking, given the opportunity. Pointless - even if he'd heard you, there's only one answer he would have given. There were a few farcical elements to the evening. He didn't want to hold a microphone so it was put on a stand that was too far from him to pick up his speech properly, so few people could hear what he was saying, and because of the size of the hall he couldn't hear what people were asking. This meant a lot of shouting and misunderstanding. One of the guests was the curator from the IWM who gave a talk a few weeks ago (she curated the McCullin exhibition in Manchester). She was asking him about photos he took during the war, when he illegally and riskily carried a camera, and wanted to come to his house to see them. He didn't appear to have the foggiest idea who she was, and seemed distinctly nonplussed by her inviting herself like that. He was showing slides, using a remote control which the RPS had provided to change. Unforunately, the hall we were in had remote controlled window blinds, so every time Healey clicked to change a slide, the window blinds went up and down. He didn't seem to notice, and rambled on regardless while the people in charge used their remote to try and get the blinds down again, which changed the slide as well... It was like Dad's Army. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bob W wrote: Did anyone ask if he was a Soviet mole? I'm sure I'm not the only one who was thinking about it, but no - nobody asked. Personally I don't think he was a mole. He left the party in 1939 over the von Ribbentrop pact, had an honourable war record, and could never have been Minister of Defence if there had been any serious doubts about him (unless MI6 were playing a very risky game indeed). Incidentally, at 93 he is almost unrecognisably different from the jolly silly billy of the 70s. Still, he (almost) singlehandedly stopped the TSR2 programme that was acknowledged to put us at least 25 years ahead of the game at the time. Could have had Ronnie's Star Wars effect 30 year earlier. Can't help but be suspicious and I really don't know if I could resist asking, given the opportunity. Pointless - even if he'd heard you, there's only one answer he would have given. There were a few farcical elements to the evening. He didn't want to hold a microphone so it was put on a stand that was too far from him to pick up his speech properly, so few people could hear what he was saying, and because of the size of the hall he couldn't hear what people were asking. This meant a lot of shouting and misunderstanding. One of the guests was the curator from the IWM who gave a talk a few weeks ago (she curated the McCullin exhibition in Manchester). She was asking him about photos he took during the war, when he illegally and riskily carried a camera, and wanted to come to his house to see them. He didn't appear to have the foggiest idea who she was, and seemed distinctly nonplussed by her inviting herself like that. He was showing slides, using a remote control which the RPS had provided to change. Unforunately, the hall we were in had remote controlled window blinds, so every time Healey clicked to change a slide, the window blinds went up and down. He didn't seem to notice, and rambled on regardless while the people in charge used their remote to try and get the blinds down again, which changed the slide as well... It was like Dad's Army. Sounds like his time in government but with laughs. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bob W wrote: within the next few years, defacto illegal to use an SLR in public. William Robb it's up to us to resist it as often as we can The problem is, we don't resist. We let the bullies have their way, and the next time they are more empowered, more confident in their righteousness and more aggressive in their methods. I'm reminded of dogs running a fence every time I read of a photographer being harassed for having a large camera. They will never pick on a group of photographers, so the people who go out en masse and feel empowered because they weren't harassed are doing no good whatsoever. William Robb it's up to us individually to resist it. Earlier this evening I went to an event organised by the Royal Photographic Society Visual Journalism Group, in which Lord (Dennis) Healey showed his photos and answered questions. He's 93 now, but he is one of the most senior British politicians of the 2nd half of the 20th century, having held many of the great offices of state, including Defence Secretary and Chancellor of the Exchequer (Finance Minister) during most of the Vietnam era and the height of the troubles in Northern Ireland. One of the questions was along the lines of 'as a photographer and former Defence Secretary, do you think the current state of security justifies stopping and arresting photographers in Central London?' His answer was 'No - it's absolute rubbish'. Did anyone ask if he was a Soviet mole? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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[...] Did anyone ask if he was a Soviet mole? I'm sure I'm not the only one who was thinking about it, but no - nobody asked. Personally I don't think he was a mole. He left the party in 1939 over the von Ribbentrop pact, had an honourable war record, and could never have been Minister of Defence if there had been any serious doubts about him (unless MI6 were playing a very risky game indeed). Incidentally, at 93 he is almost unrecognisably different from the jolly silly billy of the 70s. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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mike wilson wrote: Did anyone ask if he was a Soviet mole? I thought George figured out it was Haydon. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 22:49 -0600, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: -- From: Anthony Farr Subject: Re: Testing photography rules in Miami metrorail system http://www.funnyplace.org/stream.php?id=8257 frakkin hilarious. Yeah - pity they stopped filming. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I don't understand why people get so uptight about photography filming, or why they can't grasp the simple idea of it being a legitmate thing to do. Somebody should test the same thing with a sketchpad and pencil. http://reason.com/blog/2010/07/02/ignorance-of-the-law-is-no-exc (for more detail read each of the linked blogs. Ledford's blog is actually a funny read.) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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-- From: Bob W Subject: RE: Testing photography rules in Miami metrorail system I don't understand why people get so uptight about photography filming, or why they can't grasp the simple idea of it being a legitmate thing to do. Give small minds small authority and this is what happens. Given the degree of spread that this phenomena has, I anticipate that it will be, within the next few years, defacto illegal to use an SLR in public. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/7/6 Bob W p...@web-options.com: I don't understand why people get so uptight about photography filming, or why they can't grasp the simple idea of it being a legitmate thing to do. Somebody should test the same thing with a sketchpad and pencil. It seems to me after the 9-11 attacks instilling the public with a deeply set paranoia to keep the sheep going Bh was topmost priority... and it still shows... Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 06:25 -0600, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: -- From: Bob W Subject: RE: Testing photography rules in Miami metrorail system I don't understand why people get so uptight about photography filming, or why they can't grasp the simple idea of it being a legitmate thing to do. Give small minds small authority and this is what happens. Given the degree of spread that this phenomena has, I anticipate that it will be, within the next few years, defacto illegal to use an SLR in public. Just this afternoon I wanted to take a few photos at the local railway station. I had no sooner lifted the camera to my eye when the station attendant appeared saying You can't take photos here. I didn't push it because I was on railway property and maybe she was within her rights, but it's getting to the stage where people think that anyone carrying a 'real' camera is a terrorist or a child molester. Cheers Brian Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/7/6 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm: Just this afternoon I wanted to take a few photos at the local railway station. I had no sooner lifted the camera to my eye when the station attendant appeared saying You can't take photos here. I didn't push it because I was on railway property and maybe she was within her rights, but it's getting to the stage where people think that anyone carrying a 'real' camera is a terrorist or a child molester. OK over to another topic, why is the work of journalists covering the BP spill obstructed in such a way? Doesn't the public have a right to know? They can't be claiming it is to prevent al Quaeda from preparing to steal all that oil, can they? What sorry excuse for a blatant lie is there now? Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The public has every right to know, but the current administration
doesn't think so. Those with standing to sue, the press, are in the
pocket of this Administration so don't expect lawsuits or even much in
the way of complaints anytime soon.
On 7/6/2010 9:07 AM, eckinator wrote:
2010/7/6 Brian Walterssupera1...@fastmail.fm:
Just this afternoon I wanted to take a few photos at the local railway
station. I had no sooner lifted the camera to my eye when the station
attendant appeared saying You can't take photos here. I didn't push
it because I was on railway property and maybe she was within her
rights, but it's getting to the stage where people think that anyone
carrying a 'real' camera is a terrorist or a child molester.
OK over to another topic, why is the work of journalists covering the
BP spill obstructed in such a way? Doesn't the public have a right to
know? They can't be claiming it is to prevent al Quaeda from preparing
to steal all that oil, can they? What sorry excuse for a blatant lie
is there now?
Ecke
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I don't understand why people get so uptight about photography filming, or why they can't grasp the simple idea of it being a legitmate thing to do. Give small minds small authority and this is what happens. Given the degree of spread that this phenomena has, I anticipate that it will be, within the next few years, defacto illegal to use an SLR in public. William Robb it's up to us to resist it as often as we can -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 7:51 AM Subject: Re: Testing photography rules in Miami metrorail system On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 06:25 -0600, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: -- From: Bob W Subject: RE: Testing photography rules in Miami metrorail system I don't understand why people get so uptight about photography filming, or why they can't grasp the simple idea of it being a legitmate thing to do. Give small minds small authority and this is what happens. Given the degree of spread that this phenomena has, I anticipate that it will be, within the next few years, defacto illegal to use an SLR in public. Just this afternoon I wanted to take a few photos at the local railway station. I had no sooner lifted the camera to my eye when the station attendant appeared saying You can't take photos here. I didn't push it because I was on railway property and maybe she was within her rights, but it's getting to the stage where people think that anyone carrying a 'real' camera is a terrorist or a child molester. Interestingly, I had a CTA worker tell me at the Chicago and State subway stop that I could take pictures but just NOT of the tracks. No pictures of the tracks. At the Brown Line Rockwell stop, however, I was warned off from taking pictures anywhere. You can't take pictures without a permit, I was told. Chicago and State gets heavy tourist traffic the Rockwell stop does not. Aside from public transportation stops, I've never had any other problems in busy public places, though I was warned off by a woman from photographing her tulips in her front lawn. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 7/6/2010 11:44 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
- Original Message - From: Brian Walters
supera1...@fastmail.fm
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Subject: Re: Testing photography rules in Miami metrorail system
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 06:25 -0600, William Robb war...@gmail.com
wrote:
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From: Bob W
Subject: RE: Testing photography rules in Miami metrorail system
I don't understand why people get so uptight about photography
filming,
or
why they can't grasp the simple idea of it being a legitmate thing
to do.
Give small minds small authority and this is what happens.
Given the degree of spread that this phenomena has, I anticipate
that it
will be, within the next few years, defacto illegal to use an SLR in
public.
Just this afternoon I wanted to take a few photos at the local railway
station. I had no sooner lifted the camera to my eye when the station
attendant appeared saying You can't take photos here. I didn't push
it because I was on railway property and maybe she was within her
rights, but it's getting to the stage where people think that anyone
carrying a 'real' camera is a terrorist or a child molester.
Interestingly, I had a CTA worker tell me at the Chicago and State
subway stop that I could take pictures but just NOT of the tracks. No
pictures of the tracks. At the Brown Line Rockwell stop, however, I
was warned off from taking pictures anywhere. You can't take
pictures without a permit, I was told. Chicago and State gets heavy
tourist traffic the Rockwell stop does not. Aside from public
transportation stops, I've never had any other problems in busy public
places, though I was warned off by a woman from photographing her
tulips in her front lawn. Cheers, Christine
What, did she think she owned a copyright on the plants?
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On 7/5/2010 6:56 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
http://reason.com/blog/2010/07/02/ignorance-of-the-law-is-no-exc
(for more detail read each of the linked blogs.
Ledford's blog is actually a funny read.)
Igor
The only time I've ever been told I couldn't take photographs recently
was when a Gofer, (probably an Associate Producer), got in my face
about about photographing a movie crew shooting in front of the local
coffee shop for the movie Harvest. My response was a bit heated but
polite. I pointed out that they were filming in a public space and that
I was shooting from a public space, and that I could pretty much take
any photos I wanted. His next tack was to say Well, you can't use them
for anything! So I explained using small simple words that under fair
use, I could publish them as Art, use them to advertise my skills or
sell them to the local newspaper along with my story. Which by the way
was becoming more and more interesting the longer he was giving me
shit. I then asked his name and took his picture, at which time he
evaporated in a whiff of acrid smoke. I guess not all publicity is good
publicity.
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-- From: Bob W Subject: RE: Testing photography rules in Miami metrorail system within the next few years, defacto illegal to use an SLR in public. William Robb it's up to us to resist it as often as we can The problem is, we don't resist. We let the bullies have their way, and the next time they are more empowered, more confident in their righteousness and more aggressive in their methods. I'm reminded of dogs running a fence every time I read of a photographer being harassed for having a large camera. They will never pick on a group of photographers, so the people who go out en masse and feel empowered because they weren't harassed are doing no good whatsoever. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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-- From: eckinator Subject: Re: Testing photography rules in Miami metrorail system It seems to me after the 9-11 attacks instilling the public with a deeply set paranoia to keep the sheep going Bh was topmost priority... and it still shows... Bush and Blair couldn't have asked for a better friend than Bin Laden for consolidating power and authority. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 6/7/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: it's up to us to resist it as often as we can Resistance is futile. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/7/6 Cotty cotty...@mac.com: Resistance is futile. Yo' ass is 'imilated, foo' =) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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within the next few years, defacto illegal to use an SLR in public. William Robb it's up to us to resist it as often as we can The problem is, we don't resist. We let the bullies have their way, and the next time they are more empowered, more confident in their righteousness and more aggressive in their methods. I'm reminded of dogs running a fence every time I read of a photographer being harassed for having a large camera. They will never pick on a group of photographers, so the people who go out en masse and feel empowered because they weren't harassed are doing no good whatsoever. William Robb it's up to us individually to resist it. Earlier this evening I went to an event organised by the Royal Photographic Society Visual Journalism Group, in which Lord (Dennis) Healey showed his photos and answered questions. He's 93 now, but he is one of the most senior British politicians of the 2nd half of the 20th century, having held many of the great offices of state, including Defence Secretary and Chancellor of the Exchequer (Finance Minister) during most of the Vietnam era and the height of the troubles in Northern Ireland. One of the questions was along the lines of 'as a photographer and former Defence Secretary, do you think the current state of security justifies stopping and arresting photographers in Central London?' His answer was 'No - it's absolute rubbish'. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/7/6 Cotty cotty...@mac.com: Resistance is futile. Yo' ass is 'imilated, foo' =) Go clean your tertiary adjunct! http://languageisavirus.com/startrek/layouts/startrek/seven-of-nine-2.jpg this one? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/7/6 Bob W p...@web-options.com: Earlier this evening I went to an event organised by the Royal Photographic Society Visual Journalism Group, in which Lord (Dennis) Healey showed his photos and answered questions. He's 93 now, but he is one of the most senior British politicians of the 2nd half of the 20th century, having held many of the great offices of state, including Defence Secretary and Chancellor of the Exchequer (Finance Minister) during most of the Vietnam era and the height of the troubles in Northern Ireland. One of the questions was along the lines of 'as a photographer and former Defence Secretary, do you think the current state of security justifies stopping and arresting photographers in Central London?' His answer was 'No - it's absolute rubbish'. Spoken with the wisdom of age and of one from a different generation of politicians... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 7 July 2010 04:56, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: I'm reminded of dogs running a fence every time I read of a photographer being harassed for having a large camera. When Bill Robb talks of dogs running fences my thoughts turn to this old video: http://www.funnyplace.org/stream.php?id=8257 regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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-- From: Anthony Farr Subject: Re: Testing photography rules in Miami metrorail system http://www.funnyplace.org/stream.php?id=8257 frakkin hilarious. thanks bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
