RE: right angle finder

2005-02-14 Thread John Whittingham
Ah, different converter. Mine is the later one, picture courtesy of Boz's 
site:

http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/focusing/refconverter-II.jpg

Best of luck if you do decide to do it.

Best regards,

John


-- Original Message ---
From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 07:19:59 +0100
Subject: RE: right angle finder

> I see.
> My refcoverter has the internal screw threads in the converter, not the
> flange.
> So, I must only bore new holes in the flange, then screw on the new flange.
> I may be wrong, though. We'll see.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/4773833/
> 
> Jens Bladt
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt: 14. februar 2005 01:02
> Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Emne: RE: right angle finder
> 
> Hi Jens
> 
> Unfortunately IIRC the screws do not line up from one to another,
>  buying a tap to cut new threads was quite expensive and quite a 
> delicate operation. I got the mating surfaces so good that when I 
> glued them they stuck instantly... sh*t ever so slightly out :)
> 
> John
> 
> -- Original Message ---
> From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 00:56:24 +0100
> Subject: RE: right angle finder
> 
> > Thanks, John.
> > That sounds a little difficult. On my refconverter there's a metal
> > mount, fitted with small screws. I was imgining I could screw on a
> > wider one - from an eyepiece - using the original screws.
> > Alternativly I'll just cut of a little of the flanges (it's a matter
> > on 1-2mm at eachs side, I believe). I really should do this, since
> > I'll never use the K1000 for macro or repro photography anyway. I
> > want TTL flash option, which to me means using the Super A or the
> > *ist D.
> >
> > Jens Bladt
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
> >
> > -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> > Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sendt: 13. februar 2005 22:18
> > Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Emne: RE: right angle finder
> >
> > Before I found the refconverter A at a reasonble price I superglued the
> > fitting from the eyecup M to the refconverter II (K). The biggest problem
> > was
> > removing the ring from the eyecup and getting it perfectly level to mate
> > with
> > the converter, took a little of my workshop skills and a fine file.
> However
> > if you place it correctly it works very well even on the A series bodies
> > allowing full view of the viewfinder/metering. It looks a bit
> > unsightly but I've kept mine as a spare.
> >
> > John
> >
> > -- Original Message ---
> > From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:24:17 +0100
> > Subject: RE: right angle finder
> >
> > > I have an old one - for M or K kameras (fits my K1000).
> > > I believe I can make it fit both A and D bodies if I kill a couple of
> > > eye-cups to make exchangeable eyepiece-flanges/-mounts.
> > > I just haven't done this yet. Has anybody tried this?
> > > All the best
> > >
> > > Jens Bladt
> > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
> > >
> > > -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> > > Fra: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sendt: 12. februar 2005 03:18
> > > Til: Godfrey DiGiorgi
> > > Emne: Re: right angle finder
> > >
> > > > Does anyone know whether there is a Pentax right angle finder
> attachment
> > > > that works with the *ist DS? I've seen a couple of Pentax RAFs on Ebay
> > > > but only for older generation cameras.
> > >
> > > I would think that both the Refconverter-M and the Refconverter-A would
> > > work on the *ist DS.
> > >
> > > Fred
> > --- End of Original Message ---
> --- End of Original Message ---
--- End of Original Message ---



RE: right angle finder

2005-02-13 Thread Jens Bladt
I see.
My refcoverter has the internal screw threads in the converter, not the
flange.
So, I must only bore new holes in the flange, then screw on the new flange.
I may be wrong, though. We'll see.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/4773833/

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 14. februar 2005 01:02
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: right angle finder


Hi Jens

Unfortunately IIRC the screws do not line up from one to another, buying a
tap to cut new threads was quite expensive and quite a delicate operation. I
got the mating surfaces so good that when I glued them they stuck
instantly... sh*t ever so slightly out :)

John


-- Original Message ---
From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 00:56:24 +0100
Subject: RE: right angle finder

> Thanks, John.
> That sounds a little difficult. On my refconverter there's a metal
> mount, fitted with small screws. I was imgining I could screw on a
> wider one - from an eyepiece - using the original screws.
> Alternativly I'll just cut of a little of the flanges (it's a matter
> on 1-2mm at eachs side, I believe). I really should do this, since
> I'll never use the K1000 for macro or repro photography anyway. I
> want TTL flash option, which to me means using the Super A or the
> *ist D.
>
> Jens Bladt
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
>
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt: 13. februar 2005 22:18
> Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Emne: RE: right angle finder
>
> Before I found the refconverter A at a reasonble price I superglued the
> fitting from the eyecup M to the refconverter II (K). The biggest problem
> was
> removing the ring from the eyecup and getting it perfectly level to mate
> with
> the converter, took a little of my workshop skills and a fine file.
However
> if you place it correctly it works very well even on the A series bodies
> allowing full view of the viewfinder/metering. It looks a bit
> unsightly but I've kept mine as a spare.
>
> John
>
> ------ Original Message ---
> From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:24:17 +0100
> Subject: RE: right angle finder
>
> > I have an old one - for M or K kameras (fits my K1000).
> > I believe I can make it fit both A and D bodies if I kill a couple of
> > eye-cups to make exchangeable eyepiece-flanges/-mounts.
> > I just haven't done this yet. Has anybody tried this?
> > All the best
> >
> > Jens Bladt
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
> >
> > -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> > Fra: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sendt: 12. februar 2005 03:18
> > Til: Godfrey DiGiorgi
> > Emne: Re: right angle finder
> >
> > > Does anyone know whether there is a Pentax right angle finder
attachment
> > > that works with the *ist DS? I've seen a couple of Pentax RAFs on Ebay
> > > but only for older generation cameras.
> >
> > I would think that both the Refconverter-M and the Refconverter-A would
> > work on the *ist DS.
> >
> > Fred
> --- End of Original Message ---
--- End of Original Message ---




RE: right angle finder

2005-02-13 Thread John Whittingham
Hi Jens

Unfortunately IIRC the screws do not line up from one to another, buying a 
tap to cut new threads was quite expensive and quite a delicate operation. I 
got the mating surfaces so good that when I glued them they stuck 
instantly... sh*t ever so slightly out :)

John


-- Original Message ---
From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 00:56:24 +0100
Subject: RE: right angle finder

> Thanks, John.
> That sounds a little difficult. On my refconverter there's a metal 
> mount, fitted with small screws. I was imgining I could screw on a 
> wider one - from an eyepiece - using the original screws. 
> Alternativly I'll just cut of a little of the flanges (it's a matter 
> on 1-2mm at eachs side, I believe). I really should do this, since 
> I'll never use the K1000 for macro or repro photography anyway. I 
> want TTL flash option, which to me means using the Super A or the 
> *ist D.
> 
> Jens Bladt
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt: 13. februar 2005 22:18
> Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Emne: RE: right angle finder
> 
> Before I found the refconverter A at a reasonble price I superglued the
> fitting from the eyecup M to the refconverter II (K). The biggest problem
> was
> removing the ring from the eyecup and getting it perfectly level to mate
> with
> the converter, took a little of my workshop skills and a fine file. However
> if you place it correctly it works very well even on the A series bodies
> allowing full view of the viewfinder/metering. It looks a bit 
> unsightly but I've kept mine as a spare.
> 
> John
> 
> ------ Original Message ---
> From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:24:17 +0100
> Subject: RE: right angle finder
> 
> > I have an old one - for M or K kameras (fits my K1000).
> > I believe I can make it fit both A and D bodies if I kill a couple of
> > eye-cups to make exchangeable eyepiece-flanges/-mounts.
> > I just haven't done this yet. Has anybody tried this?
> > All the best
> >
> > Jens Bladt
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
> >
> > -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> > Fra: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sendt: 12. februar 2005 03:18
> > Til: Godfrey DiGiorgi
> > Emne: Re: right angle finder
> >
> > > Does anyone know whether there is a Pentax right angle finder attachment
> > > that works with the *ist DS? I've seen a couple of Pentax RAFs on Ebay
> > > but only for older generation cameras.
> >
> > I would think that both the Refconverter-M and the Refconverter-A would
> > work on the *ist DS.
> >
> > Fred
> --- End of Original Message ---
--- End of Original Message ---



RE: right angle finder

2005-02-13 Thread Jens Bladt
Thanks, John.
That sounds a little difficult. On my refconverter there's a metal mount,
fitted with small screws. I was imgining I could screw on a wider one - from
an eyepiece - using the original screws. Alternativly I'll just cut of a
little of the flanges (it's a matter on 1-2mm at eachs side, I believe). I
really should do this, since I'll never use the K1000 for macro or repro
photography anyway. I want TTL flash option, which to me means using the
Super A or the *ist D.

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 13. februar 2005 22:18
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: RE: right angle finder


Before I found the refconverter A at a reasonble price I superglued the
fitting from the eyecup M to the refconverter II (K). The biggest problem
was
removing the ring from the eyecup and getting it perfectly level to mate
with
the converter, took a little of my workshop skills and a fine file. However
if you place it correctly it works very well even on the A series bodies
allowing full view of the viewfinder/metering. It looks a bit unsightly but
I've kept mine as a spare.

John


-- Original Message ---
From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:24:17 +0100
Subject: RE: right angle finder

> I have an old one - for M or K kameras (fits my K1000).
> I believe I can make it fit both A and D bodies if I kill a couple of
> eye-cups to make exchangeable eyepiece-flanges/-mounts.
> I just haven't done this yet. Has anybody tried this?
> All the best
>
> Jens Bladt
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
>
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt: 12. februar 2005 03:18
> Til: Godfrey DiGiorgi
> Emne: Re: right angle finder
>
> > Does anyone know whether there is a Pentax right angle finder attachment
> > that works with the *ist DS? I've seen a couple of Pentax RAFs on Ebay
> > but only for older generation cameras.
>
> I would think that both the Refconverter-M and the Refconverter-A would
> work on the *ist DS.
>
> Fred
--- End of Original Message ---




RE: right angle finder

2005-02-13 Thread John Whittingham
Before I found the refconverter A at a reasonble price I superglued the 
fitting from the eyecup M to the refconverter II (K). The biggest problem was 
removing the ring from the eyecup and getting it perfectly level to mate with 
the converter, took a little of my workshop skills and a fine file. However 
if you place it correctly it works very well even on the A series bodies 
allowing full view of the viewfinder/metering. It looks a bit unsightly but 
I've kept mine as a spare.

John


-- Original Message ---
From: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 21:24:17 +0100
Subject: RE: right angle finder

> I have an old one - for M or K kameras (fits my K1000).
> I believe I can make it fit both A and D bodies if I kill a couple of
> eye-cups to make exchangeable eyepiece-flanges/-mounts.
> I just haven't done this yet. Has anybody tried this?
> All the best
> 
> Jens Bladt
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt: 12. februar 2005 03:18
> Til: Godfrey DiGiorgi
> Emne: Re: right angle finder
> 
> > Does anyone know whether there is a Pentax right angle finder attachment
> > that works with the *ist DS? I've seen a couple of Pentax RAFs on Ebay
> > but only for older generation cameras.
> 
> I would think that both the Refconverter-M and the Refconverter-A would
> work on the *ist DS.
> 
> Fred
--- End of Original Message ---



RE: right angle finder

2005-02-13 Thread Jens Bladt
I have an old one - for M or K kameras (fits my K1000).
I believe I can make it fit both A and D bodies if I kill a couple of
eye-cups to make exchangeable eyepiece-flanges/-mounts.
I just haven't done this yet. Has anybody tried this?
All the best

Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 12. februar 2005 03:18
Til: Godfrey DiGiorgi
Emne: Re: right angle finder


> Does anyone know whether there is a Pentax right angle finder attachment
> that works with the *ist DS? I've seen a couple of Pentax RAFs on Ebay
> but only for older generation cameras.

I would think that both the Refconverter-M and the Refconverter-A would
work on the *ist DS.

Fred





Re: right angle finder

2005-02-13 Thread Nick Clark
The A and M Refconverters will fit on the earlier cameras, but are a bit loose 
- slight lateral movement. They stay on fine but you have to make sure they're 
upright.

The older refconverters won’t fit the M and later cameras as the viewfinder 
mount is slightly larger.

Nick

-Original Message-
From: "Fred"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  
> For the old angle finder for Pentax K or earlier bodies, you need to file
> it to fit, if you don't mind.

I'm not clear on what it meant by that.  Just what would you file?  (The
mount end of a K or older Refconverter would be decidedly sloppy when
slipped onto the finder window of an M or newer body, wouldn't it?  It
seems to me that you'd want to shim it somehow, nor file it.  (I apologize,
Alan, if I am totally missing the gist of the statement.)

Fred






Re: right angle finder

2005-02-12 Thread Rob Studdert
On 12 Feb 2005 at 11:37, Fred wrote:

> Just one other comment on Pentax Ref-M and Ref-A usage:  I prefer to use
> either of them (I have a Ref-A) instead of the LX's FE-1 Magni-Finder on an LX
> body, given the choice.

Wow, I tried the Ref-A (only option on the *ist D) and couldn't stand it (picky 
eye position and like looking though a long dark tube). I still have the full 
set of LX finders and I find the FE-1 Magni-Finder both optically and 
functionally excellent, it's just a pity it won't fit my *ist D :-(


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
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Re: right angle finder

2005-02-12 Thread Fred
Just one other comment on Pentax Ref-M and Ref-A usage:  I prefer to use
either of them (I have a Ref-A) instead of the LX's FE-1 Magni-Finder on an
LX body, given the choice.

Fred




Re: right angle finder

2005-02-12 Thread Fred
> The Olympus OM Varimagni finder is much more accessible, I'll likely pick
> up one of those.

Yeah, ~that~ is what it's called - .

As I said, it's a bit "tighter" to put on and take off a Pentax M or later
finder window, but it'll work fine otherwise.

Also (from memory, so I certainly could be wrong), I think that the "high
power" position on the OM gadget is 2.5X as opposed the the Pentax 2X.

Fred




Re: right angle finder

2005-02-12 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thanks for the information. I've done a search for the Pentax
Refconverters ... wow, they're expensive new ($300 plus from
B&H) and virtually unfindable used. 

The Olympus OM Varimagni finder is much more accessible, I'll
likely pick up one of those. 

Godfrey

--- Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I do know from experience that the OM finder (I don't know its
> "official"
> model number, but there was only one of 'em) will fit on M and
> later Pentax
> bodies, although it does fit rather snugly (compared to the
> Ref-M and
> Ref-A) (i.e., the OM doesn't go on or come off quite as easily
> as do the
> jen-you-wine Pentax finders).




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Re: right angle finder

2005-02-12 Thread Fred
> Some said Minolta & Olympus (OM series) angle finders fit too, but I have
> not tried.

I do know from experience that the OM finder (I don't know its "official"
model number, but there was only one of 'em) will fit on M and later Pentax
bodies, although it does fit rather snugly (compared to the Ref-M and
Ref-A) (i.e., the OM doesn't go on or come off quite as easily as do the
jen-you-wine Pentax finders).

> For the old angle finder for Pentax K or earlier bodies, you need to file
> it to fit, if you don't mind.

I'm not clear on what it meant by that.  Just what would you file?  (The
mount end of a K or older Refconverter would be decidedly sloppy when
slipped onto the finder window of an M or newer body, wouldn't it?  It
seems to me that you'd want to shim it somehow, nor file it.  (I apologize,
Alan, if I am totally missing the gist of the statement.)

Fred




Re: right angle finder

2005-02-12 Thread Carlos Royo
Godfrey DiGiorgi escribió:
Does anyone know whether there is a Pentax right angle finder
attachment that works with the *ist DS? I've seen a couple of
Pentax RAFs on Ebay but only for older generation cameras. 

 You can use Refconverter A or M, both of them will work with your *ist DS.
Carlos


Re: right angle finder

2005-02-11 Thread Alan Chan
--- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know whether there is a Pentax right angle finder
> attachment that works with the *ist DS? I've seen a couple of
> Pentax RAFs on Ebay but only for older generation cameras. 

Refconverter M & A work on all Pentax 135 bodies from M to current series. Some 
said
Minolta & Olympus (OM series) angle finders fit too, but I have not tried. For 
the
old angle finder for Pentax K or earlier bodies, you need to file it to fit, if 
you
don't mind.  :-)

=
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Re: right angle finder

2005-02-11 Thread Fred
> Does anyone know whether there is a Pentax right angle finder attachment
> that works with the *ist DS? I've seen a couple of Pentax RAFs on Ebay
> but only for older generation cameras.

I would think that both the Refconverter-M and the Refconverter-A would
work on the *ist DS.

Fred



Re: right angle finder

2005-02-11 Thread John Whittingham
Refconverter 'A'.

John



-- Original Message ---
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:21:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: right angle finder

> Does anyone know whether there is a Pentax right angle finder
> attachment that works with the *ist DS? I've seen a couple of
> Pentax RAFs on Ebay but only for older generation cameras.
> 
> thanks
> Godfrey
> 
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right angle finder

2005-02-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Does anyone know whether there is a Pentax right angle finder
attachment that works with the *ist DS? I've seen a couple of
Pentax RAFs on Ebay but only for older generation cameras. 

thanks
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AW: right angle finder

2004-04-16 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi
The M right angle finder does not fit the Pentax Super A and Program A very
well, you will not see
Aperture and time settings through the viewfinder, because they are on the
bottom (ME Super on the left)
greetings
Markus Maurer



> I know for sure that the M and A ref converters fit everything from the ME
to the LX to PZ-1p... you say the *ist D too.
Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>





Re: right angle finder

2004-04-15 Thread William M Kane
Frits,

   Just 'won' one on ebay for 120, after bidding upwards of 200 on 
another just a few days before.  I'd say that Bob's prices below fall 
in to the expected range.

IL Bill
On Tuesday, April 13, 2004, at 07:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Frits,
Prices for the Spotmatic/K1000 finders are cheap ($30-$50?).
For an M or A finder (the ones with the 1X-2X switch),
I'd say anything under $70 is cheap and over $150 expensive.
$110 to $130 is a real bargain on the new price of $200+.
Regards,  Bob S.
What is a reasonable price for a right angle finder on eBay?
--
Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>





Re: right angle finder

2004-04-14 Thread Frits Wüthrich
Thanks, I now did look at Boz's site.
The II has a prism in it, the M and A have magnification on top of the
prism, the model without the designation has a mirror. 

On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 14:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Frits,
> 
> You will have to check Boz's site.  I have catalogues with the Ref Converter II 
> listed, but have never personally seen one.  I believe it has a mirror rather than 
> prisms which is why the objects in the viewfinder are laterally reversed.
> 
> I know for sure that the M and A ref converters fit everything from the ME to the LX 
> to PZ-1p... you say the *ist D too.  All of the earlier ref converters from the 
> model II and earlier are said to fit the viewfinder on the K1000 (KM, KX, K2) and 
> spotmatic era cameras.  I have never owned one of them, but this is what everyone 
> has said.  
> 
> In the archives from about 5 years ago, somebody talked about custom modifying a 
> magnifier by widening the viewfinder opening with a grinder.  I suppose you could do 
> this on the older ref converters too... if I have the sizes right.
> 
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> Frits writes:
> 
> > So there is a model for the M42 camera's
> > a model M, A and II?
> > 
> > I understand the M and A will fit a PZ-1 and *ist D. how 
> > about the other two?
-- 
Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Re: right angle finder

2004-04-14 Thread Rfsindg
Frits,

You will have to check Boz's site.  I have catalogues with the Ref Converter II 
listed, but have never personally seen one.  I believe it has a mirror rather than 
prisms which is why the objects in the viewfinder are laterally reversed.

I know for sure that the M and A ref converters fit everything from the ME to the LX 
to PZ-1p... you say the *ist D too.  All of the earlier ref converters from the model 
II and earlier are said to fit the viewfinder on the K1000 (KM, KX, K2) and spotmatic 
era cameras.  I have never owned one of them, but this is what everyone has said.  

In the archives from about 5 years ago, somebody talked about custom modifying a 
magnifier by widening the viewfinder opening with a grinder.  I suppose you could do 
this on the older ref converters too... if I have the sizes right.

Regards,  Bob S.

Frits writes:

> So there is a model for the M42 camera's
> a model M, A and II?
> 
> I understand the M and A will fit a PZ-1 and *ist D. how 
> about the other two?



Re: right angle finder

2004-04-14 Thread Frits Wüthrich
Thanks for all the responses.
So there is a model for the M42 camera's
a model M, A and II?

I understand the M and A will fit a PZ-1 and *ist D. how about the other
two?

On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 02:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Frits,
> Prices for the Spotmatic/K1000 finders are cheap ($30-$50?).
> For an M or A finder (the ones with the 1X-2X switch),
> I'd say anything under $70 is cheap and over $150 expensive.
> $110 to $130 is a real bargain on the new price of $200+.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> > What is a reasonable price for a right angle finder on eBay?
> > --
> > Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
-- 
Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Re: right angle finder

2004-04-13 Thread Rfsindg
Frits,
Prices for the Spotmatic/K1000 finders are cheap ($30-$50?).
For an M or A finder (the ones with the 1X-2X switch),
I'd say anything under $70 is cheap and over $150 expensive.
$110 to $130 is a real bargain on the new price of $200+.
Regards,  Bob S.

> What is a reasonable price for a right angle finder on eBay?
> --
> Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Re: right angle finder

2004-04-13 Thread Hal & Sandra Davis
For M42 bodies, $30, refconverter M, $100, ref A, $115.
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To: "Pentax-Discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 6:48 AM
Subject: right angle finder


> What is a reasonable price for a right angle finder on eBay?
> -- 
> Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>



right angle finder

2004-04-13 Thread Frits Wüthrich
What is a reasonable price for a right angle finder on eBay?
-- 
Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



FS: Refconverter (Right angle finder) M or A

2001-11-28 Thread Rfsindg

For anyone looking for the above, I've noticed it again in this week's 'New 
Arrivals' from Cameta Camera at $69.  Seems like a good price if the 
condition is OK and it is a handy piece.  They don't indicate if it is an A 
or M, but these are the only ones with 1X-2X and fit everything from the ME 
thru Super Program, LX, and PZ-1 viewfinders.  The A vs M is labeled as such 
on the bottom/back.

Regards,  Bob S.

PS.  Call them, not me!
Cameta Camera
253 Broadway
Amityville, NY 11701
Phone: 800-991-3350
Phone: 631-691-1190
Phone: 631-598-3350
Fax: 631-691-1019
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Re.FS: Pentax Right angle finder

2001-08-10 Thread Jim Commins



The finder is the "M' version.  Thank 
you.


Re: FS: Right angle finder

2001-08-09 Thread Michael Perham



Jim Commins wrote:

I
have listed a Pentax Right-Angle Finder on EBay at http://cgi.ca.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1262479504
This item fits any Pentax SLR camera
from the last 20 years (back as far as the MX at least).  I don't
know about before that.  It has 1X and 2X magnification and is in
very good, not mint, condition.  The paint is not perfect in a couple
of spots.
But which model is it?  The Refconverter A or M?
Mike.




Re: FS: Right angle finder

2001-08-08 Thread Shel Belinkoff

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] announced:
> I have listed a Pentax Right-Angle Finder 
> on EBay at 

> http://cgi.ca.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1262479504 

> This item fits any Pentax SLR camera from 
> the last 20 years (back as far as the MX at least).

Your description leaves a bit to be desired.  There are two
refconverters (right angle finders) that fit your description,
refconverter M and refconverter A.  While similar, they offer a
somewhat different field of view, and one may be preferred for certain
cameras.  It would be nice to know which you're offering.
-- 
Shel Belinkoff
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"Why should I use a meter?  What if the darn thing broke on me
when I was out making a photograph? Then what would I do?"
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Re: FS: Right angle finder

2001-08-08 Thread Dave Evans

if it's the model I have, it is quite expensive--- not sure, maybe $200 or so new.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/08/01 02:16PM >>>
I have listed a Pentax Right-Angle Finder on EBay at 
http://cgi.ca.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1262479504 

This item fits any Pentax SLR camera from the last 20 years (back as far as the MX at 
least).  I don't know about before that.  It has 1X and 2X magnification and is in 
very good, not mint, condition.  The paint is not perfect in a couple of spots.

It really saves your back if you are photographing something low down, like flowers or 
really short people, because you are looking down not horizontally through the regular 
viewfinder.  To install, you slide the rubber eyepiece off your camera and slide the 
right angle finder on.

Any questions, please EMail me direct at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Thanks, Jim Commins, Ottawa, Canada.

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FS: Right angle finder

2001-08-08 Thread Jim Commins



I have listed a Pentax Right-Angle Finder on EBay 
at http://cgi.ca.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1262479504This 
item fits any Pentax SLR camera from the last 20 years (back as far as the MX at 
least).  I don't know about before that.  It has 1X and 2X 
magnification and is in very good, not mint, condition.  The paint is not 
perfect in a couple of spots.
 
It really saves your back if you are photographing 
something low down, like flowers or really short people, because you are looking 
down not horizontally through the regular viewfinder.  To install, you 
slide the rubber eyepiece off your camera and slide the right angle finder 
on.
 
Any questions, please EMail me direct at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Thanks, Jim Commins, Ottawa, 
Canada.


Re: Right-angle finder again

2001-07-20 Thread Rfsindg

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< I'm still pondering right-angle finders, but don't want to pay 1/3 the
 price of an MZ-S.
 
 Will a right-angle finder that fits the K1000 also fit the PZ-1p? >>

NO - different size viewfinder windows!

Regards,  Bob S.
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Right-angle finder again

2001-07-20 Thread Joseph Tainter

I'm still pondering right-angle finders, but don't want to pay 1/3 the
price of an MZ-S.

Will a right-angle finder that fits the K1000 also fit the PZ-1p?

Thanks again,

Joe
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Re: Right-angle Finder?

2001-07-14 Thread Alan Chan

>That is why us Olympus users are out looking for Refconverters which might
>also account for their rarity. The Refconverters don't reverse the image.

Perhaps that's the reason it's so expensive.

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Re: Right Angle Finder

2001-07-14 Thread Camdir

In a message dated 13/07/01 19:09:26 GMT Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< I read in an astrophotography book I have that the Olympus Vari-Magni 
finder
 will fit the K1000.  If this is the case, then I believe it would not fit
 the PZ-1p.  >>

We have a K series right angle finder here. It does not fit the later mf 
bodies. The Olympus varimag can still be ordered new from Japan. 

Kind regards

Peter
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Re: Right-angle Finder?

2001-07-14 Thread WKato

In a message dated 7/14/01 12:14:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 08:35:57 +0530
>  From: RK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Subject: Re: Right-angle Finder?
>  
>  Yup; the [Olympus] Varimagni fits perfectly.
>  I suggest you try out a demo before buying one; this finder creates an 
> inverted
>  image which is a little disturbing at first.
>  Or do all right-angled finders do this?
>  RK

That is why us Olympus users are out looking for Refconverters which might 
also account for their rarity. The Refconverters don't reverse the image.

Warren
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Re: Right-angle Finder?

2001-07-13 Thread RK

Yup; the Varimagni fits perfectly.
I suggest you try out a demo before buying one; this finder creates an inverted
image which is a little disturbing at first.
Or do all right-angled finders do this?
RK

"Peifer, William [OCDUS]" wrote:

> I read in an astrophotography book I have that the Olympus Vari-Magni finder
> will fit the K1000.  If this is the case, then I believe it would not fit
> the PZ-1p.  Perhaps if one could find a scale drawing (or photo) of the back
> of an Olympus OM-1 body, one could then determine the viewfinder window
> dimensions and compare to corresponding Pentax K or M and later viewfinder
> windows?  Or perhaps someone on the list has an OM-1?

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Re: Right-angle Finder?

2001-07-12 Thread John Mustarde

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:22:16 -0600, you wrote:

>Does any manufacturer have one that will fit the (P)Z-1p?
>
I've been told the Olympus Vari-Magnifier will fit the
PZ1p, but I haven't tried it for myself. There's one on
Ebay now at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1254311778

And of course the Pentax Refconverters (M and A) will
fit.
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Right-angle Finder?

2001-07-12 Thread Joseph Tainter

Does any manufacturer have one that will fit the (P)Z-1p?

Thanks,

Joe
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RE: WTB: Right-angle finder A

2001-03-23 Thread Dan Scott

Hi Kevin,

I can't speak from experience as the only Pentax I have is my ZX-5n, but I
think the M refconverter will fit most of the rectangular Pentax
viewfinders. Boz's K-mount page says it will fit all the K-mount bodies
except the early ones (which ones aren't specified). Maybe if you readdress
the subject line some of the people with refconverter M's will read it and
answer specifically.

Good luck,
Dan Scott

Kevin wrote:
>Do you know which right angle finders other than the M will fit the
>eyepiece of the ZX-5n?  I really want a right angle finder but don't want
>to buy something that won't fit.
>


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SV: WTB: Right-angle finder A

2001-03-22 Thread Jens Bladt

Hi Alistair
I reasently asked Pentax Denmark about the price for new right-angle
A-finder. As fare as I remember they wanted approx. 1000$ for it!!
I bought an older version (K1000) at ebay for less than 100$. It's quite
nice. I'm going to alter the mount to fit my Super A. It can be done by
cutting off a little. Or even better, I could make a new mount (changeable)
for the Super A.
Best Regards
Jens

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RE: WTB: Right-angle finder A

2001-03-22 Thread Kevin Thornsberry

Do you know which right angle finders other than the M will fit the eyepiece of the 
ZX-5n?  I really want a right angle finder but don't want to buy something that won't 
fit.

-Original Message-
From:   Dan Scott [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, March 22, 2001 9:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:    Re: WTB: Right-angle finder A

 
>Hi
>
>I am after a right-angle finder for my super program.  Ideally it should be
>the A-type that allows the LCD panel to be viewed. Anybody willing to sell
>me one for a reasonable price?
>
>Cheers
>Alastair
>
>
>
>Dr Alastair W. Robertson, Senior Lecturer
>Ecology, Institute of Natural Resources
>Massey University, Private Bag 11222
>Palmerston North, NEW ZEALAND
>Tel +64 6 350 5799 ext 7965Fax +64 6 350 5623
>Mobile +64 21 416 020  email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.massey.ac.nz/~ARoberts/
>-

Hi Alastair,

I think the pursuit of a reasonably priced, used, Refconverter A  is a bit
like a Grail quest. Best of luck. 

While you search, however, you might want to see if some of the other, more
common and more affordable refconverters will work for you. I picked up a
Refconverter M, very similar to an A, for about $70 new, last fall, which I
use on my ZX-5n. The place I got it from actually had 4 in stock at that
price (all gone now, I'm afraid) and a couple of other used, refconverters
at quite reasonable prices.

Dan Scott
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Re: Right Angle Finder for ZX-5n (was RE: Right-angle finder A)

2001-03-22 Thread RK



Kevin Thornsberry wrote:

> I recall someone recently saying there is an Olympus right angle finder that will 
>work on a ZX-5n.  Can anyone verify my memory on this and maybe even give me a model 
>or part number.

You're looking for an Olympus Varimagnifinder- slots in perfectly on my MZ5 and PZ1-p
RK



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Re: WTB: Right-angle finder A

2001-03-22 Thread Alan Chan

>Add my name to anyone trying to sell one...  but I am becoming resigned to 
>the
>fact that I may have to spring for a new one.

This babe is even rarer than the A*135/1.8 or F*300/4.5. All I can say is - 
good luck (I know I was). 8-)

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Right Angle Finder for ZX-5n (was RE: Right-angle finder A)

2001-03-21 Thread Paul . Stregevsky

Kevin,

The Olympus Mailing List discussion archives can be found at
http://zuiko.sls.bc.ca/swright/archives/.

--

Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 23:17:55 -0600
From: Kevin Thornsberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Right Angle Finder for ZX-5n  (was RE: Right-angle finder A)

I recall someone recently saying there is an Olympus right angle finder
that will work on a ZX-5n.  Can anyone verify my memory on this and maybe
even give me a model or part number.



Paul Franklin Stregevsky
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Re: WTB: Right-angle finder A

2001-03-21 Thread Michael Perham

"Robertson, Alastair" wrote:

> Hi
>
> I am after a right-angle finder for my super program.  Ideally it should be
> the A-type that allows the LCD panel to be viewed. Anybody willing to sell
> me one for a reasonable price?
>

I have been trying to pick one up on e-bay for some time.  Haven't seen an
A-type, but the "M" shows up from time to time.  A new (A-type) sells for about
$500 cdn. and the B-types have been going on e-bay for about $385 cdn. (last
week one went for $249 US)  add shipping etc. you would be well over $400.  Not
a bargain by any means.

Add my name to anyone trying to sell one...  but I am becoming resigned to the
fact that I may have to spring for a new one.

Cheers,  Mike.


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Right Angle Finder for ZX-5n (was RE: Right-angle finder A)

2001-03-20 Thread Kevin Thornsberry

I recall someone recently saying there is an Olympus right angle finder that will work 
on a ZX-5n.  Can anyone verify my memory on this and maybe even give me a model or 
part number.

-Original Message-
From:   Robertson, Alastair [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, March 20, 2001 10:58 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss (E-mail)
Subject:WTB: Right-angle finder A

 
Hi

I am after a right-angle finder for my super program.  Ideally it should be
the A-type that allows the LCD panel to be viewed. Anybody willing to sell
me one for a reasonable price?

Cheers
Alastair



Dr Alastair W. Robertson, Senior Lecturer
Ecology, Institute of Natural Resources
Massey University, Private Bag 11222
Palmerston North, NEW ZEALAND
Tel +64 6 350 5799 ext 7965 Fax +64 6 350 5623
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WTB: Right-angle finder A

2001-03-20 Thread Robertson, Alastair

Hi

I am after a right-angle finder for my super program.  Ideally it should be
the A-type that allows the LCD panel to be viewed. Anybody willing to sell
me one for a reasonable price?  

Cheers
Alastair



Dr Alastair W. Robertson, Senior Lecturer
Ecology, Institute of Natural Resources
Massey University, Private Bag 11222
Palmerston North, NEW ZEALAND
Tel +64 6 350 5799 ext 7965 Fax +64 6 350 5623
Mobile +64 21 416 020   email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Recall: WTB: Right-angle finder A

2001-03-20 Thread Robertson, Alastair

Robertson, Alastair would like to recall the message, "WTB: Right-angle
finder A".
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WTB: Right-angle finder A

2001-03-20 Thread Robertson, Alastair

Hi

I am after a right-angle finder for my super program.  Ideally it should be
the A-type that allows the LCD panel to be viewed. Anybody willing to sell
me one for a reasonable price?

Cheers
Alastair



Dr Alastair W. Robertson, Senior Lecturer
Ecology, Institute of Natural Resources
Massey University, Private Bag 11222
Palmerston North, NEW ZEALAND
Tel +64 6 350 5799 ext 7965 Fax +64 6 350 5623
Mobile +64 21 416 020   email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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