Re: Tripods usage with DSLR
Your earlier response did surprise me. May be becuase you read too many PDML mails:-) Thanks Ramesh --- Lon Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ramesh, I think I misunderstood an earlier post > you made on this subject. I thought you were > talking > about film cameras when you said you could boost > ISO, > as if it were aperature or shutter, to continue to > handhold. My apologies. > > If every dumb post I've made on PDML were > emblazed on bronze, people would spit on me. > > PackToooye! (fer example).-Lon > > Ramesh Kumar wrote: > > > Predicting the light condition of the subject is > > difficult, so the deciding the ISO in advance. > > > > Assume, I have shot first frames(say 5) with rated > ISO > > and then increase ISO speed. In this case I need > to > > push frames 5 to 35. > > Can I instruct the lab to push only 5 to 35? > > Pls let me know if its possible. > > > > In case of DSLR we can change the ISO speed per > frame. > > > > > > I will agree that high ISO will introduce noise > and > > usage of tripod is recommended. > > > > When tripod is not available, given a choice b/w > not > > shooting and shooting with slight noise, latter > seems > > to decent choice. > > > > Thanks > > Ramesh > > > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site > design software > > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: Tripods usage with DSLR
On 18/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >When tripod is not available, given a choice b/w not >shooting and shooting with slight noise, latter seems >to decent choice. Yeah Bill, some of us *like* noise ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Tripods usage with DSLR
--- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The same can be said with film. You can put a faster > film in the camera (or > dial up the ISO with the intention of "push > processing") until you get a > shutter speed you think you can hand hold. Predicting the light condition of the subject is difficult, so the deciding the ISO in advance. Assume, I have shot first frames(say 5) with rated ISO and then increase ISO speed. In this case I need to push frames 5 to 35. Can I instruct the lab to push only 5 to 35? Pls let me know if its possible. In case of DSLR we can change the ISO speed per frame. I will agree that high ISO will introduce noise and usage of tripod is recommended. When tripod is not available, given a choice b/w not shooting and shooting with slight noise, latter seems to decent choice. Thanks Ramesh __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: Tripods usage with DSLR
> > Carry a good quality tripod, and learn how to use it to your advantage. > > William Robb > > When I first started out in photography and bought a book by John Shaw on nature photography those were almost his exact words. Christian
Re: Tripods usage with DSLR
- Original Message - From: "Ramesh Kumar" Subject: Re: Tripods usage with DSLR > Say I am using 100mm lens and I also want aperture to > be f8. With this setting shutter speed is too low to > take handheld shots, in such cases i can just > increase the ISO till shutter speed becomes more than > 1/200sec. Thus I can avoid tripod. > > Yes, if you deliberately want a long exposure then you > need a tripod. Same goes to night photography The same can be said with film. You can put a faster film in the camera (or dial up the ISO with the intention of "push processing") until you get a shutter speed you think you can hand hold. Of course, you are compromising image quality by not shooting the optimal speed, and are still not getting as good an image as if you had used a good tripod in the first place. A good tripod will improve image quality, regardless of shutter speed or lens. I am constantly amazed that people will go out and spend many thousands of dollars on the finest cameras and lenses and then take enough technical shortcuts that they may as well have bought a broken Holga for what they are going to get back from the lab. It amazed me when I was selling this stuff, it amazed me when I was teaching this stuff, it amazed me when I was earning my living with this stuff, and it still amazes me now that I am photofinishing. For some reason, people think there is a free lunch to be had out there. Tanstafl. Carry a good quality tripod, and learn how to use it to your advantage. William Robb
Re: Tripods usage with DSLR
On 17/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >istD or any equivalent DSLR seems to reproduce decent >outputs at higher ISO(say 400+) speeds. > >In outdoor photography, for an amature photographer, >if the focal length of the lens is less than 135mm, I >think tripod may not be a real necessicity. > >This comes as big relief for me because I need not >have to carry my 3KG tripod for hiking. > >I agree tripod is needed for long teles like 300mm/2.8 >because their weight makes it difficult to do handheld >photography. > >I would like hear other opinion on this. > >Thanks >Ramesh Au contraire mon frere. In fact because the effective focal length is increased on each lens due to the smaller sensor size (on less than 'full-frame' sensor cameras), a tripod may become more essential, depending on the type of photography done. So a 50mm lens acts like a 75 or 80mm lens, and the old yard stick of 1/ 50th of a second handheld on this lens would not apply. It would be 1/ 75th or so. I shoot landscapes on a DSLR and just as with film, a tripod is pretty much essential kit. The difference is, when I stop for a pint, I can switch to 800 ISO on the same camera / lens and shoot available light characters supping beer. To be honest, I find the same photographic principles apply to digital as they do to film in practice. Which makes the transition on the ground much easier... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Tripods usage with DSLR
and get more image noise and other things that come along with that increase in ISO. if there wasn't any penalty, they wouldn't have set the default ISO to 200. highest quality means lowest ISO for any given camera. Herb - Original Message - From: "Ramesh Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 5:10 PM Subject: Re: Tripods usage with DSLR > Let me make it clear.. > Say I am using 100mm lens and I also want aperture to > be f8. With this setting shutter speed is too low to > take handheld shots, in such cases i can just > increase the ISO till shutter speed becomes more than > 1/200sec. Thus I can avoid tripod.
Re: Tripods usage with DSLR
Nope. Boosting ISO to get the shutter speed you want causes underexposure, all else being equal. You should not, repeat: NOT adjust ISO to boost your shutter speed just to keep hand-holding. Really. -Lon Ramesh Kumar wrote: Let me make it clear.. Say I am using 100mm lens and I also want aperture to be f8. With this setting shutter speed is too low to take handheld shots, in such cases i can just increase the ISO till shutter speed becomes more than 1/200sec. Thus I can avoid tripod. Yes, if you deliberately want a long exposure then you need a tripod. Same goes to night photography Thanks Ramesh --- Herb Chong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: amateur or pro has nothing to do with it. depends on what you do. i shoot many exposures in the 10 second range. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Ramesh Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:43 PM Subject: Tripods usage with DSLR In outdoor photography, for an amature photographer, if the focal length of the lens is less than 135mm, I think tripod may not be a real necessicity. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: Tripods usage with DSLR
I shoot sporting type of events with my DSLR and i use a sturdy monopod for most of it.Unless i really need to move around a lot then i hand hold.Its not bad to do at 1/1000 or 1/1250. I sometimes shoot pictures for work related things and then i use a tripod,Manfotto 028 as we tend to take a series of shots in a panoramic setting. The noise on the D1 is poor past iso 400-800 and time is really bad.I hear the D2H takes care of this much better. Dave > amateur or pro has nothing to do with it. depends on what you do. i shoot > many exposures in the 10 second range. > > Herb... > - Original Message - > From: "Ramesh Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:43 PM > Subject: Tripods usage with DSLR > > > > In outdoor photography, for an amature photographer, > > if the focal length of the lens is less than 135mm, I > > think tripod may not be a real necessicity. > >
Re: Tripods usage with DSLR
amateur or pro has nothing to do with it. depends on what you do. i shoot many exposures in the 10 second range. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Ramesh Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:43 PM Subject: Tripods usage with DSLR > In outdoor photography, for an amature photographer, > if the focal length of the lens is less than 135mm, I > think tripod may not be a real necessicity.
Tripods usage with DSLR
*istD or any equivalent DSLR seems to reproduce decent outputs at higher ISO(say 400+) speeds. In outdoor photography, for an amature photographer, if the focal length of the lens is less than 135mm, I think tripod may not be a real necessicity. This comes as big relief for me because I need not have to carry my 3KG tripod for hiking. I agree tripod is needed for long teles like 300mm/2.8 because their weight makes it difficult to do handheld photography. I would like hear other opinion on this. Thanks Ramesh __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
