Re: Two more PESOs from Boris
On 12/11/2010 6:24 PM, frank theriault wrote: Like 'em both, but especially the gelato case. But maybe I'm just a sucker for gelato (which I no longer eat). The colours and light make it a wonderful shot. Thank you, Frank! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/6/2010 9:04 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Which is why it's best to eat ice cream in the winter... Winter winteri lupus est... /big grin/ Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html Be brutal and honest. Like 'em both, but especially the gelato case. But maybe I'm just a sucker for gelato (which I no longer eat). The colours and light make it a wonderful shot. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I reluctantly :-) agree with your assessment, Dan. My photo is rather different than your due to its dark parts... Boris On 12/9/2010 7:09 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Boris, when I was going through some only travel images. I found the one where I tried to capture the varieties of color in the gelato case. Like you, I found too much dark around it. I also had some hardware for the door that block the left side. I wound up cropping severely, and this was the best I could do: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12063813 On the whole, I like your ice cream image better. Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html Be brutal and honest. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yes. IIRC, that is what a lot of folks complained about when you first posted that image. My image also had a lot of very dark areas, plus a door and a sign that got in the way from the right. Accordingly, I cropped the hell out of it to get rid of all of that, and just show the gelato with all the colors and the hand-written flavor label. My conclusion is that you were correct in not trying to eliminate the dark areas that bothered some. (besides that, you image of course was a better one than mine to begin with.) Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: I reluctantly :-) agree with your assessment, Dan. My photo is rather different than your due to its dark parts... Boris On 12/9/2010 7:09 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Boris, when I was going through some only travel images. I found the one where I tried to capture the varieties of color in the gelato case. Like you, I found too much dark around it. I also had some hardware for the door that block the left side. I wound up cropping severely, and this was the best I could do: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12063813 On the whole, I like your ice cream image better. Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html Be brutal and honest. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Two more PESOs from Boris
Boris, when I was going through some only travel images. I found the one where I tried to capture the varieties of color in the gelato case. Like you, I found too much dark around it. I also had some hardware for the door that block the left side. I wound up cropping severely, and this was the best I could do: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12063813 On the whole, I like your ice cream image better. Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html Be brutal and honest. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 7, 2010, at 12:55 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: I am in the process of learning the light and the way the streets are lit in the evening is entirely different than anything light related that is happening when the sun is out. So it is intriguing me. Over the years I've gotten pretty mystical about water, especially moving water. I might be getting that way about light. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 6, 2010, at 1:52 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: I am somewhat new to the low light photography After seeing what Ralf does it really intrigues me, too. I'll never get to his level, but I'd like to see what *is* possible. Absolutely no idea what the subject matter would be. And kinda have doubts about what the Atlanta area might offer in this regard, too. We'll have to see. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Boris Liberman On 12/5/2010 5:09 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Well, it melts doesn't it? ... little, gooey puddles and then it sort of just dries up and goes away. 8-D John, you're supposed to eat your ice cream and not let it go gooey and the dry up... /grin/ Yeah, I know. Around here in the summer it takes all of two seconds to melt as soon as you walk out the door of the ice cream store. Try to eat it before it melts and you're going to give yourself such a headache. What you wrote gave me an image in my mind, and I thank you for that. I can't produce a photograph right now, it's not really ice cream weather here, but I'll share it anyway ... just picture it in your imagination. Little child, toddler in a sun-suit/romper + double scoop ice cream cone + *BIG* dog ... St. Bernard or Great Dane at least. Go ahead and let your imagination use motor drive. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Eric Weir On Dec 6, 2010, at 1:52 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: I am somewhat new to the low light photography After seeing what Ralf does it really intrigues me, too. I'll never get to his level, but I'd like to see what *is* possible. Absolutely no idea what the subject matter would be. And kinda have doubts about what the Atlanta area might offer in this regard, too. We'll have to see. Ralf seems to specialize in photographing the play of artificial light on commercial/industrial/transportation infrastructure, so if you want to try imitating his style, those are the kinds of things you're going to have to look for. I do know a few good Ralf type subject matter in the NC/SC area, but Atlanta is a little far out from my normal stompin' grounds. Take a drive around at night in some of Atlanta's industrial areas. I know that kind of stuff is around there, I just don't know many specific locations to suggest. I'd start looking parallel to the I-85N, US-19N, I-75N corridors. See what lights up the sky on an overcast night. There's a really big rail yard NW of downtown in the triangle formed by I-285/I-75N/I-20W. I think the area is called Tilford. NW of the rail yard, there's something that looks like it might be a coal fired electrical generating plant. Plug this into Google Maps: 33.824064,-84.475589 It comes up as 5551 South Cobb Dr SE, Smyrna, GA Maybe you can find a vantage point where you could set up a tripod and capture the fly-overs where I-85 I-285 intersect on the north side of Atlanta. The south side interchange may be good too, but I don't remember. I haven't been that way since the late 70s - most always traveled I-85 to I-285 to I-20W in recent years. You could probably shoot it from the parking lot at Atlanta Silverbacks Park, but you're going to need either an ultra-wide or plan to stitch images together to take in the whole scope. Or just concentrate on details in a small area. The area where N Georgia/SW NC/SE Tennessee come together might offer some opportunities to photograph paper pulp mills mine head structures at dusk/night-time. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/6/2010 12:28 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Boris Liberman On 12/5/2010 5:09 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Well, it melts doesn't it? ... little, gooey puddles and then it sort of just dries up and goes away. 8-D John, you're supposed to eat your ice cream and not let it go gooey and the dry up... /grin/ Yeah, I know. Around here in the summer it takes all of two seconds to melt as soon as you walk out the door of the ice cream store. Try to eat it before it melts and you're going to give yourself such a headache. Which is why it's best to eat ice cream in the winter... What you wrote gave me an image in my mind, and I thank you for that. I can't produce a photograph right now, it's not really ice cream weather here, but I'll share it anyway ... just picture it in your imagination. Little child, toddler in a sun-suit/romper + double scoop ice cream cone + *BIG* dog ... St. Bernard or Great Dane at least. Go ahead and let your imagination use motor drive. -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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After seeing what Ralf does it really intrigues me, too. I'll never get to his level, but I'd like to see what *is* possible. Absolutely no idea what the subject matter would be. And kinda have doubts about what the Atlanta area might offer in this regard, too. We'll have to see. don't they have quite a few army bases around there? You could try wandering around outside one of those at dusk in the half light, with a camera. I'm sure you'd get plenty of good shooting opportunities. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 6, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Bob W wrote: After seeing what Ralf does it really intrigues me, too. I'll never get to his level, but I'd like to see what *is* possible. Absolutely no idea what the subject matter would be. And kinda have doubts about what the Atlanta area might offer in this regard, too. We'll have to see. don't they have quite a few army bases around there? You could try wandering around outside one of those at dusk in the half light, with a camera. I'm sure you'd get plenty of good shooting opportunities. Thanks, Bob. Yeah, I just need to get out and start lookin' around. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 6, 2010, at 1:50 PM, John Sessoms wrote: I do know a few good Ralf type subject matter in the NC/SC area, but Atlanta is a little far out from my normal stompin' grounds. Take a drive around at night in some of Atlanta's industrial areas. I know that kind of stuff is around there, I just don't know many specific locations to suggest. I'd start looking parallel to the I-85N, US-19N, I-75N corridors. See what lights up the sky on an overcast night. There's a really big rail yard NW of downtown in the triangle formed by I-285/I-75N/I-20W. I think the area is called Tilford. NW of the rail yard, there's something that looks like it might be a coal fired electrical generating plant. Plug this into Google Maps: 33.824064,-84.475589 It comes up as 5551 South Cobb Dr SE, Smyrna, GA Maybe you can find a vantage point where you could set up a tripod and capture the fly-overs where I-85 I-285 intersect on the north side of Atlanta. The south side interchange may be good too, but I don't remember. I haven't been that way since the late 70s - most always traveled I-85 to I-285 to I-20W in recent years. You could probably shoot it from the parking lot at Atlanta Silverbacks Park, but you're going to need either an ultra-wide or plan to stitch images together to take in the whole scope. Or just concentrate on details in a small area. The area where N Georgia/SW NC/SE Tennessee come together might offer some opportunities to photograph paper pulp mills mine head structures at dusk/night-time. Thanks, John. Good suggestions there for someone who doesn't know the area. I'll keep em in mind. I may already have gotten to the thing you say looks like a generating plant, though not in low light. In any case, back in October, a couple days before I left for Arizona, I drove up to KEH to pick up the smc m 135/3.5 I'd bought from them. On the way up I noticed the plant off to the right. I was intrigued that it looked unused. On the way back I pulled off Cobb Drive and drove back into the site. Turned out it was an incinerator that was no longer being used. However, they were hauling in truck loads of vegetation refuse -- leaves, tree branches, and such -- and loading it into a grinder. Looked like they were planning to compost the stuff or use it for mulch. Anyway, I hung out for a half hour or so trying out the new lens. I've uploaded the results to my flikr page. They're not all thqt sharp, and one's under-exposed. [I've done no editing.] Anyway, here they are: http://www.flickr.com/photos/eeweir/sets/72157625418376629/ I'll put Boris' usual comment when he posts photos a little differently: I'm open to learning. [Even if a little brutality is required.] -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Bob W After seeing what Ralf does it really intrigues me, too. I'll never get to his level, but I'd like to see what *is* possible. Absolutely no idea what the subject matter would be. And kinda have doubts about what the Atlanta area might offer in this regard, too. We'll have to see. don't they have quite a few army bases around there? You could try wandering around outside one of those at dusk in the half light, with a camera. I'm sure you'd get plenty of good shooting opportunities. Ft McPherson and Ft Gillem are in the Atlanta area. There's also a pretty big Air Force Base (Dobbins) in Smyrna that has a Lockheed-Martin factory on site. If you were to go wandering around there in the dark with a camera I'd say your chances of getting shot are pretty good. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 6, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Bob W wrote: don't they have quite a few army bases around there? You could try wandering around outside one of those at dusk in the half light, with a camera. I'm sure you'd get plenty of good shooting opportunities. On second thought, might cause security to take an interest in what I was up to. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 6, 2010, at 3:47 PM, John Sessoms wrote: If you were to go wandering around there in the dark with a camera I'd say your chances of getting shot are pretty good. Yeah, that's what occurred to me after I responded to Bob the first time. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Eric Weir I may already have gotten to the thing you say looks like a generating plant, though not in low light. In any case, back in October, a couple days before I left for Arizona, I drove up to KEH to pick up the smc m 135/3.5 I'd bought from them. On the way up I noticed the plant off to the right. I was intrigued that it looked unused. On the way back I pulled off Cobb Drive and drove back into the site. Turned out it was an incinerator that was no longer being used. However, they were hauling in truck loads of vegetation refuse -- leaves, tree branches, and such -- and loading it into a grinder. Looked like they were planning to compost the stuff or use it for mulch. Dropped into street view at the nearest point I could get to the site. Turns out to be the site entrance there's a sign that says Georgia Power. Looking at it from the Satellite view, you can see the transformer yards, the cooling water intake structure on the Chattahoochee and a mountain of coal on the north side of the plant. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Dec 6, 2010, at 4:22 PM, John Sessoms wrote: On the way back I pulled off Cobb Drive and drove back into the site. Turned out it was an incinerator that was no longer being used. However, they were hauling in truck loads of vegetation refuse -- leaves, tree branches, and such -- and loading it into a grinder. Looked like they were planning to compost the stuff or use it for mulch. Dropped into street view at the nearest point I could get to the site. Turns out to be the site entrance there's a sign that says Georgia Power. Looking at it from the Satellite view, you can see the transformer yards, the cooling water intake structure on the Chattahoochee and a mountain of coal on the north side of the plant. Yeah, I remember seeing that, too. Man, there's a lot of stuff there. Up river on the same side and across the river. Looks like it's all one huge generation complex. Tons of cooling towers. The incinerator is just downstream across the river right at Cobb Drive, east side. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I expect the army would have at least one shooting opportunity... On 12/6/2010 2:41 PM, Bob W wrote: After seeing what Ralf does it really intrigues me, too. I'll never get to his level, but I'd like to see what *is* possible. Absolutely no idea what the subject matter would be. And kinda have doubts about what the Atlanta area might offer in this regard, too. We'll have to see. don't they have quite a few army bases around there? You could try wandering around outside one of those at dusk in the half light, with a camera. I'm sure you'd get plenty of good shooting opportunities. B -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I like the street scene. You do seem to take a lot of food shots. Maybe you should eat more snacks. ;-) On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 9:12 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I expect the army would have at least one shooting opportunity... On 12/6/2010 2:41 PM, Bob W wrote: After seeing what Ralf does it really intrigues me, too. I'll never get to his level, but I'd like to see what *is* possible. Absolutely no idea what the subject matter would be. And kinda have doubts about what the Atlanta area might offer in this regard, too. We'll have to see. don't they have quite a few army bases around there? You could try wandering around outside one of those at dusk in the half light, with a camera. I'm sure you'd get plenty of good shooting opportunities. B -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/6/2010 6:56 PM, Eric Weir wrote: After seeing what Ralf does it really intrigues me, too. I'll never get to his level, but I'd like to see what *is* possible. Absolutely no idea what the subject matter would be. And kinda have doubts about what the Atlanta area might offer in this regard, too. We'll have to see. I think that there is more to low light photography than what Ralf does. No disrespect to him, 'cause he is truly excellent in his work. Presently, I am thinking that I am in the process of learning the light and the way the streets are lit in the evening is entirely different than anything light related that is happening when the sun is out. So it is intriguing me. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/7/2010 6:16 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I like the street scene. You do seem to take a lot of food shots. Maybe you should eat more snacks. ;-) I should eat less snacks as I need to loose weight. And in sooth, Steve, I am not taking as many food shots as certain guy living in Australia, coming by the name Derby /wink wink/. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Boris Liberman Thank you, Christine. But would you please elaborate as to why Ice cream does not hold your interest? Well, it melts doesn't it? ... little, gooey puddles and then it sort of just dries up and goes away. 8-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 12:01 AM Subject: Two more PESOs from Boris http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html Be brutal and honest. Might like ice cream if the image were larger. As it is shadow overwhelms detail. Love empty street, where shadow is a part of what appeals. -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 11:35 PM Subject: Re: Two more PESOs from Boris Thank you, Christine. But would you please elaborate as to why Ice cream does not hold your interest? http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html Be brutal and honest. The subject is worthy, Boris, so it's not that, but as shot it just doesn't draw me into the frame; the subject seems distant. Just my 2 cents. Ignore if it's not helpful. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/5/2010 6:16 PM, Eric Weir wrote: Might like ice cream if the image were larger. As it is shadow overwhelms detail. Love empty street, where shadow is a part of what appeals. Thank you, Eric. It seems to me now that your comment is the most valuable one in the whole low light series. I was told something similar with regard to one of the Empty street shots where the shadow on top was too heavy. I am somewhat new to the low light photography and your feedback is most useful. Thanks again! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/5/2010 5:09 PM, John Sessoms wrote: Well, it melts doesn't it? ... little, gooey puddles and then it sort of just dries up and goes away. 8-D John, you're supposed to eat your ice cream and not let it go gooey and the dry up... /grin/ Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/6/2010 6:54 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: The subject is worthy, Boris, so it's not that, but as shot it just doesn't draw me into the frame; the subject seems distant. Just my 2 cents. Ignore if it's not helpful. Cheers, Christine I see no reason to ignore any comments unless they are outright derogatory. Yours is also extremely valuable. I am learning the low light photography and although this shot came out exactly how I wanted, I might have or actually should have tried different executions. Your words only prove that. Thanks! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Boris: I much prefer Empty Street, an intriguing view. Ice cream doesn't hold my interest much. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 12:01 AM Subject: Two more PESOs from Boris Hi! http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html Be brutal and honest. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thank you, Christine. But would you please elaborate as to why Ice cream does not hold your interest? On 12/5/2010 1:17 AM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Boris: I much prefer Empty Street, an intriguing view. Ice cream doesn't hold my interest much. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 12:01 AM Subject: Two more PESOs from Boris Hi! http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html Be brutal and honest. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Boris Liberman wrote: Since I posted two pesos you can be brutal on one and honest on other. Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Ted. I am glad that my relatively simple ideas found their agreement with you and Paul. Boris On 11/30/2010 7:18 PM, Theodore Beilby wrote: Boris, I agree with Paul on his comments on both of these shots. The dark sky does not bother me. The unreal colors of the ice cream really pop and make the shot for me. Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11/30/2010 6:26 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: I like both of these. Love the warm lighting on the street shot and the empty feeling. I think you exposed the ice cream display perfectly, with the bright colors of the ice cream popping out from the dark environment. Paul Thanks, Paul. Histogram chimping can be a virtue, you know :-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 29 November 2010 01:01, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html Be brutal and honest. Boris I would stick to ice cream. M...ice cream... That said, I would have liked it straight on, not at an angle. But then I'm autistic like that. —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thank you, Dan. You're offering me some serious compliments here... Boris On 11/29/2010 4:59 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I like the empty street very much, Boris. As for the Gelato case, I have tried to take that very shot several times, with miserable results. Your image is just a perfect visualization of the scene! Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11/29/2010 5:39 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Boris, I like the street shot. Lighting and composition work well together. The first shot, Ice Cream, is a little problem for me. I can't really tell what the stuff in the case is. Is this Gelato as Dan says or are these vegetables in grocer's case? I need a closer or bigger image to really tell, or to sell the illusion. Regards, Bob S. Fascinating, Bob. You see, I thought that the sight of the refrigerator vitrine and the shadows of ice cream cups were hints good enough to eliminate other possibilities. But it could be I overestimated the value of these hints. I did add some saturation and vibrance to increase the effect of rather artificial colors of the ice cream, but again, you were confused. Thank you, as indeed I should be more careful about my presentations so as to make them less possible to be misread. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thank you, Ann and Ken. I see what you're saying, but I rather wanted to have asymmetrical lines of buildings on the left and on the right. If I crop off the top, the asymmetry will either go away completely or be seriously diminished... I will be more aware of the dark skies next time I am shooting in the dark. It is in fact, very fascinating, as the light and the shades and the textures are entirely different than during the light of day... Thanks again! Boris On 11/29/2010 7:32 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Ken Waller wrote: I like 'empty-street' but I'd try to minimize the dark section in the top middle by cropping a bit. It's a blank area and somewhat distracting to me. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller I agree with Ken on this... ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11/29/2010 8:54 PM, David J Brooks wrote: The empty street is well done. Great lighting Dave Thanks, Dave... I shoot RAW though /wink wink/. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Boris, That refrigerated cooler is unfamiliar to me as are the cups stacked above it. Cones are cones anywhere. This is probably why I need a closer look at the ice cream. (Weather is more conducive to ice cream by you. We are frozen here. The birdbaths are small ice skating ponds.) Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/29/2010 5:39 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Boris, I like the street shot. Lighting and composition work well together. The first shot, Ice Cream, is a little problem for me. I can't really tell what the stuff in the case is. Is this Gelato as Dan says or are these vegetables in grocer's case? I need a closer or bigger image to really tell, or to sell the illusion. Regards, Bob S. Fascinating, Bob. You see, I thought that the sight of the refrigerator vitrine and the shadows of ice cream cups were hints good enough to eliminate other possibilities. But it could be I overestimated the value of these hints. I did add some saturation and vibrance to increase the effect of rather artificial colors of the ice cream, but again, you were confused. Thank you, as indeed I should be more careful about my presentations so as to make them less possible to be misread. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I like both of these. Love the warm lighting on the street shot and the empty feeling. I think you exposed the ice cream display perfectly, with the bright colors of the ice cream popping out from the dark environment. Paul On Nov 30, 2010, at 12:15 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Since I posted two pesos you can be brutal on one and honest on other. You choose which is which though :-). On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 6:07 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman Hi! http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html Be brutal and honest. With these, I can be one or the other, but not both. You pick which it's going to be. ;-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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There is a little Asian-fusion kinda place in JErsey City whose ice cream / gelato display looks exactly like this... (aside to New JErsian Dan, it is in Pavornia-Newport... down toward the marina and it is called Bao Bao I think) anyway, I didnt have any problem recognizing it - and only am cursing Boris for making me wnat some now :-) ann Bob Sullivan wrote: Boris, That refrigerated cooler is unfamiliar to me as are the cups stacked above it. Cones are cones anywhere. This is probably why I need a closer look at the ice cream. (Weather is more conducive to ice cream by you. We are frozen here. The birdbaths are small ice skating ponds.) Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/29/2010 5:39 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Boris, I like the street shot. Lighting and composition work well together. The first shot, Ice Cream, is a little problem for me. I can't really tell what the stuff in the case is. Is this Gelato as Dan says or are these vegetables in grocer's case? I need a closer or bigger image to really tell, or to sell the illusion. Regards, Bob S. Fascinating, Bob. You see, I thought that the sight of the refrigerator vitrine and the shadows of ice cream cups were hints good enough to eliminate other possibilities. But it could be I overestimated the value of these hints. I did add some saturation and vibrance to increase the effect of rather artificial colors of the ice cream, but again, you were confused. Thank you, as indeed I should be more careful about my presentations so as to make them less possible to be misread. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Boris, I agree with Paul on his comments on both of these shots. The dark sky does not bother me. The unreal colors of the ice cream really pop and make the shot for me. Ted The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Asian Gelato? Do they have leechee flavor? Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: There is a little Asian-fusion kinda place in JErsey City whose ice cream / gelato display looks exactly like this... (aside to New JErsian Dan, it is in Pavornia-Newport... down toward the marina and it is called Bao Bao I think) anyway, I didnt have any problem recognizing it - and only am cursing Boris for making me wnat some now :-) ann Bob Sullivan wrote: Boris, That refrigerated cooler is unfamiliar to me as are the cups stacked above it. Cones are cones anywhere. This is probably why I need a closer look at the ice cream. (Weather is more conducive to ice cream by you. We are frozen here. The birdbaths are small ice skating ponds.) Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/29/2010 5:39 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Boris, I like the street shot. Lighting and composition work well together. The first shot, Ice Cream, is a little problem for me. I can't really tell what the stuff in the case is. Is this Gelato as Dan says or are these vegetables in grocer's case? I need a closer or bigger image to really tell, or to sell the illusion. Regards, Bob S. Fascinating, Bob. You see, I thought that the sight of the refrigerator vitrine and the shadows of ice cream cups were hints good enough to eliminate other possibilities. But it could be I overestimated the value of these hints. I did add some saturation and vibrance to increase the effect of rather artificial colors of the ice cream, but again, you were confused. Thank you, as indeed I should be more careful about my presentations so as to make them less possible to be misread. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I like the empty street very much, Boris. As for the Gelato case, I have tried to take that very shot several times, with miserable results. Your image is just a perfect visualization of the scene! Dan http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 1: 01 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html Be brutal and honest. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Boris, I like the street shot. Lighting and composition work well together. The first shot, Ice Cream, is a little problem for me. I can't really tell what the stuff in the case is. Is this Gelato as Dan says or are these vegetables in grocer's case? I need a closer or bigger image to really tell, or to sell the illusion. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html Be brutal and honest. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I like 'empty-street' but I'd try to minimize the dark section in the top middle by cropping a bit. It's a blank area and somewhat distracting to me. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Two more PESOs from Boris Hi! http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html Be brutal and honest. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ken Waller wrote: I like 'empty-street' but I'd try to minimize the dark section in the top middle by cropping a bit. It's a blank area and somewhat distracting to me. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller I agree with Ken on this... ann - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com Subject: Two more PESOs from Boris Hi! http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html Be brutal and honest. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The empty street is well done. Great lighting Dave On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html Be brutal and honest. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Since I posted two pesos you can be brutal on one and honest on other. You choose which is which though :-). On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 6:07 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Boris Liberman Hi! http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-55-ice-cream.html and http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2010/11/peso-2010-56-empty-street.html Be brutal and honest. With these, I can be one or the other, but not both. You pick which it's going to be. ;-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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