peso plane and clouds

2010-09-30 Thread Larry Colen
This is more a case of wondering what the plane is, rather than look at the 
pretty picture...

I was meeting some friends for dinner the other night, and while waiting for 
some of the group to show up, I wasted some bits on the pretty sunset. I 
noticed that the plane in the background was a turboprop.  Unfortunately I had 
my fast/sharp 16-50 rather than the versatile 18-250 lens on the camera, so the 
plane isn't as clear as it might be. Even so, just curious if anyone can ID it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039082245/
close crop here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039703650/

It isn't by any chance the same type as the plane in this photo is it?
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100929.html
No, the APOD is not mine, I wasn't even in the same hemisphere, but it's still 
a cool shot.

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Re: peso plane and clouds

2010-09-30 Thread Bill Owens
Looks like a Bomardier Dash-7 (originally Dehaviland)

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 This is more a case of wondering what the plane is, rather than look at the 
 pretty picture...

 I was meeting some friends for dinner the other night, and while waiting for 
 some of the group to show up, I wasted some bits on the pretty sunset. I 
 noticed that the plane in the background was a turboprop.  Unfortunately I 
 had my fast/sharp 16-50 rather than the versatile 18-250 lens on the camera, 
 so the plane isn't as clear as it might be. Even so, just curious if anyone 
 can ID it:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039082245/
 close crop here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039703650/

 It isn't by any chance the same type as the plane in this photo is it?
 http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100929.html
 No, the APOD is not mine, I wasn't even in the same hemisphere, but it's 
 still a cool shot.

 --
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Re: peso plane and clouds

2010-09-30 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 30, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Bill Owens wrote:

 Looks like a Bomardier Dash-7 (originally Dehaviland)

Thanks.  A friend on another list guessed it as a Dash-8.


 
 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 This is more a case of wondering what the plane is, rather than look at the 
 pretty picture...
 
 I was meeting some friends for dinner the other night, and while waiting for 
 some of the group to show up, I wasted some bits on the pretty sunset. I 
 noticed that the plane in the background was a turboprop.  Unfortunately I 
 had my fast/sharp 16-50 rather than the versatile 18-250 lens on the camera, 
 so the plane isn't as clear as it might be. Even so, just curious if anyone 
 can ID it:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039082245/
 close crop here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039703650/
 
 It isn't by any chance the same type as the plane in this photo is it?
 http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100929.html
 No, the APOD is not mine, I wasn't even in the same hemisphere, but it's 
 still a cool shot.
 
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Re: peso plane and clouds

2010-09-30 Thread Bill Owens
Dash 8 has four engines, the Dash-8 has two.

Bill

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Sep 30, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Bill Owens wrote:

 Looks like a Bomardier Dash-7 (originally Dehaviland)

 Thanks.  A friend on another list guessed it as a Dash-8.



 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 This is more a case of wondering what the plane is, rather than look at the 
 pretty picture...

 I was meeting some friends for dinner the other night, and while waiting 
 for some of the group to show up, I wasted some bits on the pretty sunset. 
 I noticed that the plane in the background was a turboprop.  Unfortunately 
 I had my fast/sharp 16-50 rather than the versatile 18-250 lens on the 
 camera, so the plane isn't as clear as it might be. Even so, just curious 
 if anyone can ID it:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039082245/
 close crop here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039703650/

 It isn't by any chance the same type as the plane in this photo is it?
 http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100929.html
 No, the APOD is not mine, I wasn't even in the same hemisphere, but it's 
 still a cool shot.

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Re: peso plane and clouds

2010-09-30 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 30, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Bill Owens wrote:

 Dash 8 has four engines, the Dash-8 has two.

using my wiki-fu I think you mean that the Dash 7 has four engines.

 
 Bill
 
 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 On Sep 30, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Bill Owens wrote:
 
 Looks like a Bomardier Dash-7 (originally Dehaviland)
 
 Thanks.  A friend on another list guessed it as a Dash-8.
 
 
 
 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 This is more a case of wondering what the plane is, rather than look at 
 the pretty picture...
 
 I was meeting some friends for dinner the other night, and while waiting 
 for some of the group to show up, I wasted some bits on the pretty sunset. 
 I noticed that the plane in the background was a turboprop.  Unfortunately 
 I had my fast/sharp 16-50 rather than the versatile 18-250 lens on the 
 camera, so the plane isn't as clear as it might be. Even so, just curious 
 if anyone can ID it:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039082245/
 close crop here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039703650/
 
 It isn't by any chance the same type as the plane in this photo is it?
 http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100929.html
 No, the APOD is not mine, I wasn't even in the same hemisphere, but it's 
 still a cool shot.
 
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Re: peso plane and clouds

2010-09-30 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Bill Owens wmbow...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dash 8 has four engines, the Dash-8 has two.

Bob, this damned airplane has two engines.
Oh.  You wanted me to order the one without the hyphen.  Sorry, boss.

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Re: peso plane and clouds

2010-09-30 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 30, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Bill Owens wmbow...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dash 8 has four engines, the Dash-8 has two.
 
 Bob, this damned airplane has two engines.
 Oh.  You wanted me to order the one without the hyphen.  Sorry, boss.

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Re: peso plane and clouds

2010-09-30 Thread Bill Owens
Nope, your wiki-fu is wrong.  The Dash 7's I loaded and unloaded were
2 engines,Now I'm thoroughly confused.  Back in the late 70's and
early 80's Dehaviland Canada built a four engine Dash-9.  The Dash 7's
I worked the the 90's had 2 engines.  Now I understand the are 4
engined Dash-7s.

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Sep 30, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Bill Owens wrote:

 Dash 8 has four engines, the Dash-8 has two.

 using my wiki-fu I think you mean that the Dash 7 has four engines.


 Bill

 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Sep 30, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Bill Owens wrote:

 Looks like a Bomardier Dash-7 (originally Dehaviland)

 Thanks.  A friend on another list guessed it as a Dash-8.



 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 This is more a case of wondering what the plane is, rather than look at 
 the pretty picture...

 I was meeting some friends for dinner the other night, and while waiting 
 for some of the group to show up, I wasted some bits on the pretty 
 sunset. I noticed that the plane in the background was a turboprop.  
 Unfortunately I had my fast/sharp 16-50 rather than the versatile 18-250 
 lens on the camera, so the plane isn't as clear as it might be. Even so, 
 just curious if anyone can ID it:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039082245/
 close crop here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039703650/

 It isn't by any chance the same type as the plane in this photo is it?
 http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100929.html
 No, the APOD is not mine, I wasn't even in the same hemisphere, but it's 
 still a cool shot.

 --
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Re: peso plane and clouds

2010-09-30 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 30, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Bill Owens wrote:

 Nope, your wiki-fu is wrong.  The Dash 7's I loaded and unloaded were
 2 engines,Now I'm thoroughly confused.  Back in the late 70's and
 early 80's Dehaviland Canada built a four engine Dash-9.  The Dash 7's
 I worked the the 90's had 2 engines.  Now I understand the are 4
 engined Dash-7s.

Turning this into the Plane Discussion Mailing List:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Canada_Dash_7
describes the Dash-7 as a four engined version of the Dash-6 twin otter.

Could you be confusing the 6 with the 7, or possibly the 8?


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Re: peso plane and clouds

2010-09-30 Thread Steven Desjardins
To answer the original question, it sure looks liken the same plane.
BTW, I hate Dash 8's with or without the hyphen.  They fly low and
bounce around.

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Bill Owens wmbow...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nope, your wiki-fu is wrong.  The Dash 7's I loaded and unloaded were
 2 engines,Now I'm thoroughly confused.  Back in the late 70's and
 early 80's Dehaviland Canada built a four engine Dash-9.  The Dash 7's
 I worked the the 90's had 2 engines.  Now I understand the are 4
 engined Dash-7s.

 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Sep 30, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Bill Owens wrote:

 Dash 8 has four engines, the Dash-8 has two.

 using my wiki-fu I think you mean that the Dash 7 has four engines.


 Bill

 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Sep 30, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Bill Owens wrote:

 Looks like a Bomardier Dash-7 (originally Dehaviland)

 Thanks.  A friend on another list guessed it as a Dash-8.



 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 This is more a case of wondering what the plane is, rather than look at 
 the pretty picture...

 I was meeting some friends for dinner the other night, and while waiting 
 for some of the group to show up, I wasted some bits on the pretty 
 sunset. I noticed that the plane in the background was a turboprop.  
 Unfortunately I had my fast/sharp 16-50 rather than the versatile 18-250 
 lens on the camera, so the plane isn't as clear as it might be. Even so, 
 just curious if anyone can ID it:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039082245/
 close crop here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039703650/

 It isn't by any chance the same type as the plane in this photo is it?
 http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100929.html
 No, the APOD is not mine, I wasn't even in the same hemisphere, but it's 
 still a cool shot.

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Re: peso plane and clouds

2010-09-30 Thread Bill Owens
OOPS!. I had my Dashes mixed up.  Yes the -8 has 2 engines and the -7 has 4

Bill

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Sep 30, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Bill Owens wrote:

 Dash 8 has four engines, the Dash-8 has two.

 using my wiki-fu I think you mean that the Dash 7 has four engines.


 Bill

 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Sep 30, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Bill Owens wrote:

 Looks like a Bomardier Dash-7 (originally Dehaviland)

 Thanks.  A friend on another list guessed it as a Dash-8.



 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 This is more a case of wondering what the plane is, rather than look at 
 the pretty picture...

 I was meeting some friends for dinner the other night, and while waiting 
 for some of the group to show up, I wasted some bits on the pretty 
 sunset. I noticed that the plane in the background was a turboprop.  
 Unfortunately I had my fast/sharp 16-50 rather than the versatile 18-250 
 lens on the camera, so the plane isn't as clear as it might be. Even so, 
 just curious if anyone can ID it:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039082245/
 close crop here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039703650/

 It isn't by any chance the same type as the plane in this photo is it?
 http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100929.html
 No, the APOD is not mine, I wasn't even in the same hemisphere, but it's 
 still a cool shot.

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Re: peso plane and clouds

2010-09-30 Thread Bill Owens
The Dashes are great compared to the Shorts 330 and 360



On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 To answer the original question, it sure looks liken the same plane.
 BTW, I hate Dash 8's with or without the hyphen.  They fly low and
 bounce around.

 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Bill Owens wmbow...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nope, your wiki-fu is wrong.  The Dash 7's I loaded and unloaded were
 2 engines,Now I'm thoroughly confused.  Back in the late 70's and
 early 80's Dehaviland Canada built a four engine Dash-9.  The Dash 7's
 I worked the the 90's had 2 engines.  Now I understand the are 4
 engined Dash-7s.

 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Sep 30, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Bill Owens wrote:

 Dash 8 has four engines, the Dash-8 has two.

 using my wiki-fu I think you mean that the Dash 7 has four engines.


 Bill

 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 On Sep 30, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Bill Owens wrote:

 Looks like a Bomardier Dash-7 (originally Dehaviland)

 Thanks.  A friend on another list guessed it as a Dash-8.



 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 This is more a case of wondering what the plane is, rather than look at 
 the pretty picture...

 I was meeting some friends for dinner the other night, and while 
 waiting for some of the group to show up, I wasted some bits on the 
 pretty sunset. I noticed that the plane in the background was a 
 turboprop.  Unfortunately I had my fast/sharp 16-50 rather than the 
 versatile 18-250 lens on the camera, so the plane isn't as clear as it 
 might be. Even so, just curious if anyone can ID it:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039082245/
 close crop here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039703650/

 It isn't by any chance the same type as the plane in this photo is it?
 http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100929.html
 No, the APOD is not mine, I wasn't even in the same hemisphere, but 
 it's still a cool shot.

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RE: peso plane and clouds

2010-09-30 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen

This is more a case of wondering what the plane is, rather than look
at the pretty picture...

I was meeting some friends for dinner the other night, and while
waiting for some of the group to show up, I wasted some bits on the
pretty sunset. I noticed that the plane in the background was a
turboprop.  Unfortunately I had my fast/sharp 16-50 rather than the
versatile 18-250 lens on the camera, so the plane isn't as clear as
it might be. Even so, just curious if anyone can ID it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039082245/
close crop here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039703650/

It isn't by any chance the same type as the plane in this photo is
it?
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100929.html
No, the APOD is not mine, I wasn't even in the same hemisphere, but it's
still a cool shot


Got a brain-flash and Googled regional turboprop - it's a Bombardier 
Q300 or Q400


http://www.plane-mad.com/photos/5/5293.jpg

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Re: peso plane and clouds

2010-09-30 Thread Bill Owens
Dash 8 in Quantas livery

http://www.airliners.net/photo/0100963/



On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 3:31 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Larry Colen

 This is more a case of wondering what the plane is, rather than look
 at the pretty picture...

 I was meeting some friends for dinner the other night, and while
 waiting for some of the group to show up, I wasted some bits on the
 pretty sunset. I noticed that the plane in the background was a
 turboprop.  Unfortunately I had my fast/sharp 16-50 rather than the
 versatile 18-250 lens on the camera, so the plane isn't as clear as
 it might be. Even so, just curious if anyone can ID it:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039082245/
 close crop here:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039703650/

 It isn't by any chance the same type as the plane in this photo is
 it?
 http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100929.html
 No, the APOD is not mine, I wasn't even in the same hemisphere, but it's
 still a cool shot

 Got a brain-flash and Googled regional turboprop - it's a Bombardier Q300
 or Q400

 http://www.plane-mad.com/photos/5/5293.jpg

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Re: peso plane and clouds

2010-09-30 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen

On Sep 30, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Bill Owens wrote:


 Nope, your wiki-fu is wrong.  The Dash 7's I loaded and unloaded were
 2 engines,Now I'm thoroughly confused.  Back in the late 70's and
 early 80's Dehaviland Canada built a four engine Dash-9.  The Dash 7's
 I worked the the 90's had 2 engines.  Now I understand the are 4
 engined Dash-7s.

Turning this into the Plane Discussion Mailing List:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Canada_Dash_7
describes the Dash-7 as a four engined version of the Dash-6 twin otter.

Could you be confusing the 6 with the 7, or possibly the 8?


Dash 7 (DHC-7) is four engines, Dash 8 (DHC-8)is two engines.

Dash 8 is much narrower and has a higher aspect ratio wing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dash_8_in_planform_arp_rotated_03.jpg

That may not be Larry's photo, but it's definitely the one in the APOD - 
different carrier of course.


I think Larry's is the Q300 50–56 passenger version and the APOD is the 
Q400 70–78 passenger version.


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Re: peso plane and clouds

2010-09-30 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:49 -0400, Bill Owens wmbow...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Dash 8 in Quantas livery
 
 http://www.airliners.net/photo/0100963/
 



No! No! No!

I was going to say that Qantas is the only word in the English language
where 'Q' isn't followed by 'u'.  But, then again, Qantas isn't a word -
it's an acronym

Anyway - there is no 'u' in 'Qantas'  :-)

As to the identity of the plane in Larry's photo - I haven't a clue!



Cheers

Brian

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 On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 3:31 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
 wrote:
  From: Larry Colen
 
  This is more a case of wondering what the plane is, rather than look
  at the pretty picture...
 
  I was meeting some friends for dinner the other night, and while
  waiting for some of the group to show up, I wasted some bits on the
  pretty sunset. I noticed that the plane in the background was a
  turboprop.  Unfortunately I had my fast/sharp 16-50 rather than the
  versatile 18-250 lens on the camera, so the plane isn't as clear as
  it might be. Even so, just curious if anyone can ID it:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039082245/
  close crop here:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5039703650/
 
  It isn't by any chance the same type as the plane in this photo is
  it?
  http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap100929.html
  No, the APOD is not mine, I wasn't even in the same hemisphere, but it's
  still a cool shot
 
  Got a brain-flash and Googled regional turboprop - it's a Bombardier Q300
  or Q400
 
  http://www.plane-mad.com/photos/5/5293.jpg
 
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Re: peso - plane

2010-04-27 Thread Sasha Sobol
Thanks for everyone for looking and commenting.
Bruce, the tilt was intentional.

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 I have just never been able to get my head around the heavy
 tilted shots - [...]


 Stand on a slope.


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Re: peso - plane

2010-04-27 Thread eckinator
2010/4/26 Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4553112455/

A fun shot and well executed. Proud dad, anyone? =)
Cheers
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Re: peso - plane

2010-04-26 Thread paul stenquist
Fun stuff. I think the tilt woks here. Adds to the adventure.
Paul
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 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4553112455/
 
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Re: peso - plane

2010-04-26 Thread Jack Davis
You nicely captured the young pilot's delight, Sasha. Great moment!

Jack

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Re: peso - plane

2010-04-26 Thread Bruce Dayton
I have just never been able to get my head around the heavy tilted
shots - my daughters shoot them on occasion and I see them in wedding
work quite often.  Other than that, this is a nice shot.

-- 
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Tilted shots: was Re: peso - plane

2010-04-26 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Dayton

Subject: Re: peso - plane



I have just never been able to get my head around the heavy tilted
shots - my daughters shoot them on occasion and I see them in wedding
work quite often.


We just had a discussion about this very thing over on ForumsNeurotica. 
SOmeone got called on crooked shots by a bride who wasn't very happy with 
her album.
It's like any other style. In small doses it's OK, but an entire album of 
it would be a train wreck.


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RE Tilted shots: was Re: peso - plane

2010-04-26 Thread John Sessoms

From: William Robb

From: Bruce Dayton


I have just never been able to get my head around the heavy tilted
 shots - my daughters shoot them on occasion and I see them in wedding
 work quite often.


We just had a discussion about this very thing over on ForumsNeurotica. 
SOmeone got called on crooked shots by a bride who wasn't very happy with 
her album.
It's like any other style. In small doses it's OK, but an entire album of 
it would be a train wreck.


One thing I'd question is whether the bride looked at the photographer's 
previous work, and whether that work presaged what the album was going 
to look like.


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Re: RE Tilted shots: was Re: peso - plane

2010-04-26 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:10 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 One thing I'd question is whether the bride looked at the photographer's
 previous work, and whether that work presaged what the album was going to
 look like.

When we were hiring a wedding photographer (in 2005) about 90% of the
online portfolios were tilty.  We hired a non-tilty one (paying extra
travel expenses, etc.) and thereby got non-tilty photos.

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RE: peso - plane

2010-04-26 Thread Bob W

 
 I have just never been able to get my head around the heavy 
 tilted shots - [...]
 

Stand on a slope.


 SS http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4553112455/
 
 SS Comments and critique welcome.
 



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Re: RE Tilted shots: was Re: peso - plane

2010-04-26 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: John Sessoms

Subject: RE Tilted shots: was Re: peso - plane



We just had a discussion about this very thing over on ForumsNeurotica. 
SOmeone got called on crooked shots by a bride who wasn't very happy with 
her album.
It's like any other style. In small doses it's OK, but an entire album 
of it would be a train wreck.


One thing I'd question is whether the bride looked at the photographer's 
previous work, and whether that work presaged what the album was going to 
look like.




Doesn't matter what the bride thinks, she isn't the person the photographer 
has to make happy.


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peso - plane

2010-04-25 Thread Sasha Sobol
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4553112455/

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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-07-06 Thread Derby Chang

Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:

A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some 
morning rush hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  
My husband hates when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.


It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments 
welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white 
balance used here.  Cheers, Christine



http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/airplane_tall_grass_8_large.html 





Been away for a while, so just catching up, but WOW

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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-07-06 Thread Christine Aguila

Thanks, Derby.  Much appreciated.  Cheers, Christine.



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Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:

A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some morning 
rush hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  My husband 
hates when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.


It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments 
welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white balance 
used here.  Cheers, Christine



http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/airplane_tall_grass_8_large.html



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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-29 Thread Tim Bray
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Christine  Aguilacagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Everyone:

 A real Hail Mary shot here

Full of grace, that one.  Mmmm thanks. -T

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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-29 Thread Mark Roberts
Tim Bray wrote:

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Christine  Aguilacagu...@earthlink.net 
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 Hi Everyone:

 A real Hail Mary shot here

Full of grace, that one.

Be careful, you may incur the wrath of Pope Bob...

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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-29 Thread P. J. Alling

Mark Roberts wrote:

Tim Bray wrote:

  

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Christine  Aguilacagu...@earthlink.net wrote:


Hi Everyone:

A real Hail Mary shot here
  

Full of grace, that one.



Be careful, you may incur the wrath of Pope Bob...
  

I'll answer for his Holiness

That's Pope Bob /the/ /XXVII/ to you *knave* !


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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-29 Thread Christine Aguila

Thanks Sash and Tim.  Much appreciated.  Cheers, Christine



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What can I say?
Nice, nice, nice!

--Sasha

On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Christine  Aguilacagu...@earthlink.net 
wrote:

Big thanks, Jostein, John, and Dan. Much appreciated. Cheers, Christine


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oooh that's delicious, Christine.
My wife would have killed me if I tried something like that... :-)

Jostein

2009/6/27 Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net:


Hi Everyone:

A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some morning
rush
hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph. My husband 
hates

when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.

It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it. Comments
welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white balance
used here. Cheers, Christine



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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-28 Thread Sasha Sobol
What can I say?
Nice, nice, nice!

--Sasha

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 oooh that's delicious, Christine.
 My wife would have killed me if I tried something like that... :-)

 Jostein

 2009/6/27 Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net:

 Hi Everyone:

 A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some morning
 rush
 hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph. My husband hates
 when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.

 It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it. Comments
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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread gldnbearz
Hi Christine,

Thanks for sharing such an incredibly gorgeous shot.  It should
inspire hubby to drive you more often.  =)

-Pat

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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread Joseph McAllister

I like it a lot. Morning sun is yellowish. That looks right.

Nice and sharp.

No problem doing it until you hit something. Then, it's a problem.  
Removing a K20D from your face.


:-)


On Jun 26, 2009, at 15:44 , Christine Aguila wrote:


Hi Everyone:

A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some  
morning rush hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40  
mph. My husband hates when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.


It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.   
Comments welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the  
white balance used here.  Cheers, Christine



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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread Boris Liberman

Mark Roberts wrote:

Christine  Aguila wrote:

A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some morning rush 
hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  My husband hates 
when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.


It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments 
welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white balance 
used here.  Cheers, Christine


http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/airplane_tall_grass_8_large.html 


Tell your husband to shut up because shots like this are worth it!
Stunning!


Christine, I'd rather you called the air traffic control and politely 
asked them to fix the flight schedule for your advantage ;-).


Seriously however, this is terrific shot. Well worth the big print and all.

Boris


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RE: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread Chris Mitchell
What a good shot Christine!

I know women are renowned for the ability to multi-task so I assume you were
also on your phone and eating a sandwich at the same time...

Chris

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 Big thanks to Mark, Brian, Gaydon, Dave, Ann, Bob W., Rob, Bob S.,
 Larry,
 Paul, Jack, and Subash.  A few points:
 
 The shot is a deep crop with hefty recovery of highlights in Lightroom
 (recovery slider).  The camera was set to Auto WB (5100K), and I bumped
 it
 up to 8005K in Lightroom..  I wanted feedback to see if it was too
 much/not
 enough, whatever. So, Rob, yes, I was unsure ;-).  The camera was also
 set
 to +EV 7, so I brought down the exposure in Lightroom to -.75, and then
 added strong contrast and bumped saturation up from 0 to 10.  Then I
 was
 done.
 
 I was, in fact, driving, and I never put my nose behind the camera; I
 just
 held on to the steering wheel and tried to aim it in the right
 direction. I
 had no idea what my camera was set to, so like I said, it's a real Hail
 Mary
 shot--saved by a bit of post-processing.
 
 Yes, Brian, I thought I might be able to sneak this into the PUG, but
 it's
 ok that I can't.
 
 Hey, Bob S. want to go photodriving with me along I-90? ;-)
 
 Big cheers everyone, Christine
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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread Cotty
On 26/6/09, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

Hi Everyone:

A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some morning rush
hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  My husband hates
when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.

It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments
welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white balance
used here.  Cheers, Christine


http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/
airplane_tall_grass_8_large.html


Excellent shot Trubbs - very sexy ;-)

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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread P. J. Alling

I just wanted to let you know that I hate very much.

Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:

A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some 
morning rush hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  
My husband hates when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.


It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments 
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balance used here.  Cheers, Christine



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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread Anthony Farr
The right place, at the right time, and with the right camera/lens
combo at hand.  You really scored the trifecta here, Christine.

But what matters most is that you nailed the composition and the
technicalities.  Well done indeed.

regards, Anthony

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2009/6/27 Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net:
 Hi Everyone:

 A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some morning rush
 hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  My husband hates
 when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.

 It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments
 welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white balance
 used here.  Cheers, Christine


 http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/airplane_tall_grass_8_large.html



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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread Beaker


Fly to the Light!!
Nicely done- Looks like a frame from an X-Files movie...

Cheers
Mike


On Jun 26, 2009, at 6:44 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:


Hi Everyone:

A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some  
morning rush hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40  
mph.  My husband hates when I do this; I probably should stop doing  
it.


It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.   
Comments welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the  
white balance used here.  Cheers, Christine



http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/ 
airplane_tall_grass_8_large.html



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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread John Celio
Holy crap that's amazing!  Makes me imagine that's Farrah  Michael's 
private jet to heaven (and I'm not even religious).


Extremely well done.

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Hi Everyone:

A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some morning 
rush

hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  My husband hates
when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.

It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments
welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white balance
used here.  Cheers, Christine


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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread P. J. Alling

Something tells me that one of them would probably not going to heaven...

John Celio wrote:
Holy crap that's amazing!  Makes me imagine that's Farrah  Michael's 
private jet to heaven (and I'm not even religious).


Extremely well done.

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Subject: PESO plane and cloud



Hi Everyone:

A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some 
morning rush
hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  My husband 
hates

when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.

It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments
welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white balance
used here.  Cheers, Christine


http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/airplane_tall_grass_8_large.html 









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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread John Celio

Holy crap that's amazing!  Makes me imagine that's Farrah  Michael's
private jet to heaven (and I'm not even religious).


Something tells me that one of them would probably not going to heaven...



Good point.  Perhaps then it's Ed McMahon  Michael's private jet to heaven.

XD  :D  ;D

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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread P. J. Alling

John Celio wrote:

Holy crap that's amazing!  Makes me imagine that's Farrah  Michael's
private jet to heaven (and I'm not even religious).


Something tells me that one of them would probably not going to 
heaven...



Good point.  Perhaps then it's Ed McMahon  Michael's private jet to 
heaven.


XD  :D  ;D

John
(Heyooo!)


Ed's too old for Michael...

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RE: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread Bob W
which one, and why not?

Bob 

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 Something tells me that one of them would probably not going 
 to heaven...
 
 John Celio wrote:
  Holy crap that's amazing!  Makes me imagine that's Farrah  
 Michael's 
  private jet to heaven (and I'm not even religious).
 
  Extremely well done.
 
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  To: pdml@pdml.net
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  Subject: PESO plane and cloud
 
 
  Hi Everyone:
 
  A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some 
  morning rush
  hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  
 My husband 
  hates
  when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.
 
  It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of 
 it.  Comments
  welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the 
 white balance
  used here.  Cheers, Christine
 
 
  
 http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/airplane_tall_gr
 ass_8_large.html 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he 
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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread P. J. Alling
The fact that Michael Jackson was quite possibly a pedophile, (if you 
have enough money you can pay anybody off, just ask Ted Kennedy), would 
probably make him ineligible for admission.  .


Bob W wrote:

which one, and why not?

Bob 

  

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Something tells me that one of them would probably not going 
to heaven...


John Celio wrote:

Holy crap that's amazing!  Makes me imagine that's Farrah  
  
Michael's 


private jet to heaven (and I'm not even religious).

Extremely well done.

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Subject: PESO plane and cloud


  

Hi Everyone:

A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some 
morning rush
hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  

My husband 


hates
when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.

It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of 


it.  Comments

welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the 


white balance


used here.  Cheers, Christine





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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread mike wilson

P. J. Alling wrote:

The fact that Michael Jackson was quite possibly 


Yer elastic's a bit overstretched there, Peter.

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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread P. J. Alling
Being acquitted in a court of law doesn't make you innocent of a crime.  
The admonition of being innocent until proven guilty is a sanction on 
the government, not a requirement that you check your common sense at 
the door.  I  wouldn't let him play with any of my nephews.  But as my 
grandmother always said you shouldn't speak ill of the dead so I'll say 
something nice, he really could sing, before his voice changed and he 
became a over produced hack.


mike wilson wrote:

P. J. Alling wrote:

The fact that Michael Jackson was quite possibly 


Yer elastic's a bit overstretched there, Peter.

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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread AlunFoto
oooh that's delicious, Christine.
My wife would have killed me if I tried something like that... :-)

Jostein

2009/6/27 Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net:
 Hi Everyone:

 A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some morning rush
 hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  My husband hates
 when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.

 It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments
 welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white balance
 used here.  Cheers, Christine


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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread Christine Aguila
Big thanks, John, Mike, Anthony, P.J., Cotty, Chris, Boris, Joe, Pat, Dave 
S., and William.  Very kind of you all, but just remember that this was a 
real lucky Hail Mary.  The original RAW frame was impressively unremarkable. 
Earlier, I posted some post-processing tech stuff, so refer to that, and I 
want to make a correction: I mistakenly said I shot this in early morning 
rush hour, which is wrong; I meant to write early evening rush hour (about 
5:15p).  Still, I want the WB to be on the more yellowy side.


Also, I shot this with the DA 21mm lens, so the plane was pretty small in 
the frame, but what's amazing is that if I zoom in on the plane (in 
Lightroom) I can make out 1 of 2 words on the plane.  I can't make out the 
1st grouping of 3 letters, but the second grouping of letters spells out 
Alliance.  Isn't that amazing!


Anyway, big thanks to you all.  Cheers, Christine






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Holy crap that's amazing!  Makes me imagine that's Farrah  Michael's 
private jet to heaven (and I'm not even religious).


Extremely well done.

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Subject: PESO plane and cloud



Hi Everyone:

A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some morning 
rush
hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  My husband 
hates

when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.

It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments
welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white balance
used here.  Cheers, Christine


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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread AlunFoto
2009/6/27 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
 Being acquitted in a court of law doesn't make you innocent of a crime.  The
 admonition of being innocent until proven guilty is a sanction on the
 government, not a requirement that you check your common sense at the door.
  I  wouldn't let him play with any of my nephews.

Prejudice ox-testicles.

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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread P. J. Alling

AlunFoto wrote:

2009/6/27 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
  

Being acquitted in a court of law doesn't make you innocent of a crime.  The
admonition of being innocent until proven guilty is a sanction on the
government, not a requirement that you check your common sense at the door.
 I  wouldn't let him play with any of my nephews.



Prejudice ox-testicles.

Jostein
  
He's dead now, but when he was alive you were welcome to let your young 
relatives have sleep overs at Neverland.  I think you'd be crazy, and 
and I think calling caution, prejudice, is just politically correct 
idiocy.  Listen to yourself for a second and really think about what 
you've just said. 

Look at the facts: Two different DA's tried to get convictions for child 
molestation, there were multiple complaints, out of court settlements, 
payoffs recanted testamony. 

Geez, Maybe the DA's were being over zealous,  maybe all of the 
complainants were just trying to get on the gravy train, and the 
guardians of those children were trying to set him up, but it would be 
very difficult to convince me that I should leave a child in the care of 
someone who was so obviously disturbed, even granted that he wasn't 
dangerous and I won't grant that.  A lot of children are more heavily 
protected against less likely dangers.


Jackson was gifted as a child and he lost his gift when he hit 
puberty.   If you doubt me just listen to /I'll/ /be/ /there/  vs 
/Thriller/, as a child he had a natural 3 octave range,  after puberty 
barely 1 and 1/2, which he augmented by singing falsetto.  I can't 
imagine what it would be like to have such a gift taken away. 

His father apparently beat him and his brothers, maybe his sisters as 
well, I find it interesting that a lot of people who give Michael the 
benefit of doubt on his alleged crimes won't give do the same for 
Michael's father.  For the sake of argument I won't give Michael's 
father that benefit.


I'll grant he had a bad childhood, despite the fame, and that he lost a 
great gift, for those things he had my sympathy.  That doesn't mean I'll 
trust him with children given his history.


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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread AlunFoto
Take it somewhere else, P.J.
You began by saying you shouldn't speak bad about the dead.
Stick to your words. :-)

Jostein
Who isn't particularly fond of mr. Jacksons music.

2009/6/27 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:

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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm tired of the adulation, a post was made about celebritys going to 
heaven, now I don't much believe in any kind of heaven, (I guess that 
means I'm not a particularly good Christian), but if there were one the 
average, celebrity has less chance of getting in than my current dog,. 
who objectively speaking as dogs go, is not the best dog in the world.


Now check the thread, I made an oblique reference and someone else 
seemed to think it needed further explanation.  So I gave it.


I will say no more on that subject. 


AlunFoto wrote:

Take it somewhere else, P.J.
You began by saying you shouldn't speak bad about the dead.
Stick to your words. :-)

Jostein
Who isn't particularly fond of mr. Jacksons music.

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RE: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread John Sessoms

From: Christine  Aguila

Hi Everyone:

A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some morning rush 
hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  My husband hates 
when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.


It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments 
welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white balance 
used here.  Cheers, Christine



http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/airplane_tall_grass_8_large.html 


No problem shooting while moving along at about 30 - 40 mph as long as 
 someone else is at the wheel.


If you're doing the driving, yes, you should stop doing it that way. 
Your attention should be on the road ahead and the rush hour traffic, 
lest you be caught un-awares by a sudden stop.


If it's possible to bring down the exposure in the area of the hole in 
the clouds to where they're not so blown out it might add a little more 3-D.


The white balance seems fine to me. Kind of gives the light a sepia tone.

Overall, an enjoyable image.

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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Wonderful image!

Dan

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Christine  Aguilacagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Everyone:

 A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some morning rush
 hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  My husband hates
 when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.

 It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments
 welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white balance
 used here.  Cheers, Christine


 http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/airplane_tall_grass_8_large.html


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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-27 Thread Christine Aguila

Big thanks, Jostein, John, and Dan.  Much appreciated.  Cheers, Christine


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oooh that's delicious, Christine.
My wife would have killed me if I tried something like that... :-)

Jostein

2009/6/27 Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net:

Hi Everyone:

A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some morning 
rush

hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph. My husband hates
when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.

It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it. Comments
welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white balance
used here. Cheers, Christine


http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/airplane_tall_grass_8_large.html


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PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-26 Thread Christine Aguila

Hi Everyone:

A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some morning rush 
hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  My husband hates 
when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.


It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments 
welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white balance 
used here.  Cheers, Christine



http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/airplane_tall_grass_8_large.html 




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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-26 Thread Mark Roberts
Christine  Aguila wrote:

A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some morning rush 
hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  My husband hates 
when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.

It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments 
welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white balance 
used here.  Cheers, Christine

http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/airplane_tall_grass_8_large.html 

Tell your husband to shut up because shots like this are worth it!
Stunning!

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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-26 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:53 -0400, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com
wrote:

 Christine  Aguila wrote:
 
 A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some morning rush 
 hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  My husband hates 
 when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.
 
 It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments 
 welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white balance 
 used here.  Cheers, Christine
 
 http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/airplane_tall_grass_8_large.html
  
 
 Tell your husband to shut up because shots like this are worth it!


Agreed!!!

That's bloody amazing.  I like the way the plane seems to be heading for
the hole in the clouds. White balance looks fine to me.

I take it this was the shot that you wanted to include in the Aviation
PUG.



Cheers

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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-26 Thread Graydon
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 06:53:12PM -0400, Mark Roberts scripsit:
 Christine  Aguila wrote:
 A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some morning rush 
 hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  My husband hates 
 when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.
 
 It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments 
 welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white balance 
 used here.  Cheers, Christine
 
 http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/airplane_tall_grass_8_large.html
  
 
 Tell your husband to shut up because shots like this are worth it!
 Stunning!

It kinda depends on which one of them was doing the driving...

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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-26 Thread David J Brooks
Has a Terry Gilliam feel to it.:-0

Great shot Christine. \

Most of my pilot car series of pictures were taken through the front
windshield or side window of a pick up truck. Its do able.:-)

Dave

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Christine  Aguilacagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Everyone:

 A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some morning rush
 hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  My husband hates
 when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.

 It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments
 welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white balance
 used here.  Cheers, Christine


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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-26 Thread ann sanfedele



Christine Aguila wrote:


Hi Everyone:

A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some 
morning rush hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  
My husband hates when I do this; I probably should stop doing it. 


You could suggest he does all the driving... I confess, Ive done it too...



It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments 
welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white 
balance used here.  Cheers, Christine



http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/airplane_tall_grass_8_large.html 



Well I'm glad you got it and survived ... really striking shot... great 
for ad copy, too...
Well done!  


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RE: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-26 Thread Bob W
Wow!


 
  Hi Everyone:
 
  A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some 
  morning rush hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 
 - 40 mph.  
  My husband hates when I do this; I probably should stop doing it. 
 
 You could suggest he does all the driving... I confess, Ive 
 done it too...
 
 
  It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it. 
  Comments 
  welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white 
  balance used here.  Cheers, Christine
 
 
  
 http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/airplane_tall_gr
 ass_8_large.html 
 
 
 Well I'm glad you got it and survived ... really striking 
 shot... great 
 for ad copy, too...
 Well done!  
 
 ann



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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27/06/2009, Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Everyone:

 A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some morning rush
 hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  My husband hates
 when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.

 It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments
 welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white balance
 used here.  Cheers, Christine


 http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/airplane_tall_grass_8_large.html

Super shot, Christine, I'm certainly glad that you put good driving
practice aside in order to grab this shot, you would have been angry
with yourself if you hadn't I bet?

The white balance seems to suite the shot, were you unsure?

Cheers,

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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-26 Thread Bob Sullivan
Christine,
Great shot.
Remind me to stay off of I-90 when your around.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Christine  Aguilacagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Everyone:

 A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some morning rush
 hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  My husband hates
 when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.

 It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments
 welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white balance
 used here.  Cheers, Christine


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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-26 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 05:44:31PM -0500, Christine  Aguila wrote:
 Hi Everyone:
 
 A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some morning 
 rush hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  My husband 
 hates when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.
 
 It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments 
 welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white balance 
 used here.  Cheers, Christine

It looks nice to me.


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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-26 Thread paul stenquist


Nice shot! Great God rays! You nailed the exposure.
Paul

On Jun 26, 2009, at 6:44 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:


Hi Everyone:

A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some  
morning rush hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40  
mph.  My husband hates when I do this; I probably should stop doing  
it.


It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.   
Comments welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the  
white balance used here.  Cheers, Christine



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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-26 Thread Jack Davis

Love it, Christine! 

Jack

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 From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com
 Subject: Re: PESO plane and cloud
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 3:53 PM
 Christine  Aguila wrote:
 
 A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90
 in some morning rush 
 hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40
 mph.  My husband hates 
 when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.
 
 It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of
 it.  Comments 
 welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on
 the white balance 
 used here.  Cheers, Christine
 
 http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/airplane_tall_grass_8_large.html
 
 
 Tell your husband to shut up because shots like this are
 worth it!
 Stunning!
 
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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-26 Thread Subash
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:44:31 -0500
Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:


 http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/airplane_tall_grass_8_large.html
  

that's a striking shot christine. WB looks fine here
regards, subash

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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-26 Thread Christine Aguila
Big thanks to Mark, Brian, Gaydon, Dave, Ann, Bob W., Rob, Bob S., Larry, 
Paul, Jack, and Subash.  A few points:


The shot is a deep crop with hefty recovery of highlights in Lightroom 
(recovery slider).  The camera was set to Auto WB (5100K), and I bumped it 
up to 8005K in Lightroom..  I wanted feedback to see if it was too much/not 
enough, whatever. So, Rob, yes, I was unsure ;-).  The camera was also set 
to +EV 7, so I brought down the exposure in Lightroom to -.75, and then 
added strong contrast and bumped saturation up from 0 to 10.  Then I was 
done.


I was, in fact, driving, and I never put my nose behind the camera; I just 
held on to the steering wheel and tried to aim it in the right direction. I 
had no idea what my camera was set to, so like I said, it's a real Hail Mary 
shot--saved by a bit of post-processing.


Yes, Brian, I thought I might be able to sneak this into the PUG, but it's 
ok that I can't.


Hey, Bob S. want to go photodriving with me along I-90? ;-)

Big cheers everyone, Christine



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Christine  Aguila wrote:

A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some morning 
rush

hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  My husband hates
when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.

It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments
welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white balance
used here.  Cheers, Christine

http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/airplane_tall_grass_8_large.html


Tell your husband to shut up because shots like this are worth it!
Stunning!

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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-26 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Christine Aguila

Subject: PESO plane and cloud




http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/airplane_tall_grass_8_large.html


Wow.
That is an incredibly powerful image.

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Re: PESO plane and cloud

2009-06-26 Thread David Savage
2009/6/27 Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com:
 Christine  Aguila wrote:

A real Hail Mary shot here--taken while driving on I-90 in some morning rush
hour traffic that was moving along at about 30 - 40 mph.  My husband hates
when I do this; I probably should stop doing it.

It's 1024 pixels on the long end to give you a sense of it.  Comments
welcome, and I'd especially like to know your views on the white balance
used here.  Cheers, Christine

http://caguila.com/caguila/planecloud/content/airplane_tall_grass_8_large.html

 Tell your husband to shut up because shots like this are worth it!
 Stunning!

Ditto wot Mark said.

DS

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PESO - Plane Surfing

2005-03-25 Thread Cotty
Not all will like this - my Mrs doesn't  :-)

Laying in some warm spring UK sunshine, looking straight up, Canon 1D +
A*85mm

http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/reportage/images/pic32.html


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Re: PESO - Plane Surfing

2005-03-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like it. Nicely composed. Now what kind of plane is it? It would 
appear to be a business jet of some sort. Or is it a small commuter 
jet?
On Mar 25, 2005, at 2:13 PM, Cotty wrote:

Not all will like this - my Mrs doesn't  :-)
Laying in some warm spring UK sunshine, looking straight up, Canon 1D +
A*85mm
http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/reportage/images/pic32.html
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Re: PESO - Plane Surfing

2005-03-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/3/05, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

I like it. Nicely composed. Now what kind of plane is it? It would 
appear to be a business jet of some sort. Or is it a small commuter 
jet?

Thanks Paul. Lockheed Tri-Star run by the RAF. There are several based at
nearby RAF Brize Norton. Some are fitted with huge tanks inside and used
to re-fuel other aircraft in-flight. Others are used as transport and
passenger aircraft for our troops overseas. Other types based at Brize
are very noisy VC-10s (re-fuelers) and 4 new Boeing C17 transports.
Not a plane geek, but have been up in all the above filming. 

You *did* ask ;-)


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