BLS Daily Report

2002-01-16 Thread Richardson_D

BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, DAILY REPORT, TUESDAY, JANUARY 15, 2002:

Weakness in labor markets across the country will dampen wage increases this
year, holding private industry pay gains below 4 percent, according to the
latest Bureau of National Affairs Wage Trend Indicator report. The WTI's
final reading for the fourth quarter 2001 is 99.78, down from 100.34 in the
third quarter (second quarter 1976=100).  The final reading is unchanged
from the revised figure reported in December.  Joel Popkin, of the economic
consulting firm Joel Popkin  Co., the company who devised the Wage Trend
Indicator, says the four consecutive declines in the WTI suggest that the
next report of the BLS Employment Cost Index will show a 12-month change of
about 3.5 percent in private industry wages.  The ECI is the government's
most comprehensive measure of compensation.  The Labor Department's Bureau
of Labor Statistics is scheduled to release the fourth quarter ECI figures
on January 31 (Daily Labor Report, page D-1).

First year wage and benefit increases negotiated in construction collective
bargaining agreements during 2001 averaged $1.37 per hour or 4.5 percent
above the 2000 level, according to data compiled by the Construction Labor
Research Council. Robert Gasperow, CLRC's executive director, says that an
unusually low inflation rate means that real increases negotiated in new
construction contracts last year are relatively large compared with recent
years, indicating that union workers are making gains against inflation. He
estimated that the seasonally adjusted consumer price indexes could come in
under 2 percent for 2001 (Daily Labor Report, page A-5).

In the fourth quarter of 2001, only 77.6 percent of job seekers won
equivalent or better salaries -- the lowest level since Chicago outplacement
firm Challenger, Gray  Christmas, Inc. started to follow such data in 1986,
the firm announced Jan. 14. Furthermore, according to the firm's Job Market
Index, in the third quarter, the median job search time increased by almost
30 days to 3 months, then increased another 12 percent in the fourth quarter
to 3.4 months. Job seekers are fearful, according to John Challenger, chief
executive officer of Challenger, Gray  Christmas.  This, he said, leads to
job seekers feeling they must take the first job offered or risk a prolonged
period of unemployment.  The end result, Challenger pointed out, is likely a
substantial reduction in pay (Daily Labor Report, page A-8).

The Service Employers International Union, one of a minority of growing
unions, says it added 80,000 members last year and has more than 1.5 million
members (Work Week feature of The Wall Street Journal, page A1).

About 57 percent of 629 white-collar workers surveyed by Steelcase, Inc.,
Grand Rapids, Mich., say that companies expect increased productivity to
make up for staff reductions (Work Week feature of The Wall Street
Journal, page A1).

According to Federal data, nonmetro workers had a slightly higher adjusted
unemployment rate than workers in metro areas in the third quarter of 2001,
says Karen Hamrick, a U.S. Department of Agriculture economist. The rate
includes discouraged workers, certain part-time workers and others.  They
also have less chance of finding new jobs, are less likely to be covered by
protective legislation, and a larger share drop out of the labor force
entirely, according to Ms. Hamrick (work Week feature, The Wall Street
Journal, page A1).

DUE OUT TOMORROW:  Consumer Price Index, December 2001; Real Earnings,
December 2001


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LMD on neoliberal strategy: today Mont Pelerin; tomorrow the world

2002-01-16 Thread Rob Schaap

G'day all,

The history of the war on social democracy , as per the latest LMD.
http://MondeDiplo.com/2002/01/11alternative

 United States neo-liberalism seems to have
triumphed: the US now dominates military and
 diplomatic affairs; Europe is on its way to

being a mere free-trade zone. In December the US
 House of Representatives (narrowly) granted

President George Bush increased powers to negotiate
 trade agreements (fast track) — the same
powers it had denied President Clinton in 1997. And
 the anti-globalisation movement is on the
defensive, just as neo-liberals were 30 years ago.

 After financial crises in Russia, Southeast

Asia and Latin America in 1998, a rightwing pundit
 gloomily said: Global capitalism, whose
triumph once seemed inevitable, is now in full retreat,
 perhaps for many years. Business Week
asked: Is the American model of free-market
 capitalism, the de facto ideology of the
post-cold war period, in retreat? Countries are opting out of
 a free-market system everyone took for
granted (1). Japan's finance minister described himself as
 an outdated Keynesian (2).

 Capitalism's decline proved illusory:
events, and commerce, resumed their course. Yet the
 prevailing economic system, based on
beliefs that validated public policy, had once been
 overthrown. This was neither a fluke, nor
the predictable result of social or historical shifts. Rick
 Perlstein's new book on Barry Goldwater,
the 1964 Republican presidential candidate, reminds us
 of the power of politics; it recalls an era

when the losers unexpectedly rewrote the history books
 thanks to their ability to mobilise,
popularise ideas and found movements. They went on to win the
 bigger war (3).

 Contrary to the beliefs of most pollsters
and journalists, charting the best course of action does not
 automatically mean accepting current trends

and the prevailing spirit of the times, or acquiescing to
 the media. At times political activists try

to modify trends before reversing them. This calls for
 patience and tenacity, and may involve
battling advocates of fashionable ideas. Ideological labour,
 political will and activism may create
demand for new political agendas.

 In 1964 Goldwater, with the support of only

38% of the US electorate, lost to Lyndon Johnson.

 Commentators were quick to write Goldwater
off and proclaim the triumph of the Democrats'
 centrist, Keynesian ideology. Radical
conservatism was finished. Goldwater's famous call to arms
 — Extremism in the defence of liberty is
no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue
 — offered voters a counter-revolutionary
message grounded in social divisiveness. The
 Republicans supposedly learned their lesson

in defeat. The 1964 elections were won in the
 centre-ground: radicalism was too
frightening, progress was assured and the New Deal appeared
 invincible. Ideologies were converging,
technology was paramount and thinking was monolithic:
 there was no alternative (4).

 In 1958 the Republican president, Dwight
Eisenhower, had acknowledged that the gradually
 expanding federal government was the
price of rapidly expanding national growth. In 1960 the
 Democratic party declared that the final
eradication of poverty was in reach. Johnson devoted
 himself to this task, secure in the
knowledge that we can do it all. We have the wherewithal (5).
 Once in Washington, he launched his war on

poverty by increased taxation and a vastly
 expanded civil service. Although his war on

poverty did achieve some of its social objectives (6),
 in political terms it was the Keynesians'
swansong. In Goldwater's words, it was a war on your
 pocketbooks.

 No longer monolithic

 The political ground was already starting
to shift. The New Deal's durability was not guaranteed
 

Turkish conditions

2002-01-16 Thread Michael Perelman

Forwarded from Sabri

Bush-Ecevit to discuss economy, Turkish-Greek ties and Cyprus

US dubs Turkey excellent model for Islam

The United States has labelled overwhelmingly Muslim but secular
Turkey as an excellent model for Islam amid its ongoing
campaign
against terrorism in a statement that illustrated a boosted
Washington backing for Ankara.


The official statement came at the start of Prime Minister Bulent
Ecevit's key visit to the United States this week during which
the
premier and a top-level Turkish delegation would seek U.S.
reinforcement in a series of issues ranging from economy to
Turkish-Greek
relations and Afghanistan. Ecevit earlier said he would also try
to persuade Washington not to launch a military strike on Iraq as
part of
its anti-terrorism war triggered by the September 11, attacks.

The aerial attacks on the U.S.' financial and security heartlands
has brought close-U.S. ally Turkey under the spotlights as the
only
Muslim NATO member which could play a bridge role between the
Christian west and Muslim East while Washington has insisted that

its anti-terrorism drive did not target the Islamic world.
Turkey's secular establishment was also viewed successful in its
own campaign
against Islamic fundamentalism at home.

Turkey is an excellent model, Anatolian news agency quoted the
assistant to President George Bush for national security affairs,

Condoleezza Rice, as telling Turkish reporters based in
Washington in a news briefing. The Turkey model has a great
importance as an
alternative to radical Islam, the agency quoted her as saying.
Turkey's secular constitution separates religion and state
affairs strictly one
from the other.

U.S. Senator Joseph Lieberman was among those who view Turkey as
an example of moderate Islam. Lieberman, a potential contender
for the 2004 Democratic presidential
nomination, has compared Turkey with the Sharia-ruled Saudi
Arabia and said Turkish women enjoy a large freedom in many
fields
including work and education while driving even is illegal for
women in the Saudi Arabia.

Turkey's willingness to actively play such a role is another
matter. But its increasing significance brought Ankara certain
advantages.
Bush's national security adviser Rice revealed that modern
Turkey's stability and improvement was important for Washington
and the
west since the country's role as a model for Islam, according to
Anatolia.

ECONOMIC NEEDS

Turkey, still suffering from last year's financial crisis,
largely depends on loans granted by international lenders and
Washington to
correct its economic balances. Ecevit is expected to ask
President Bush's help for the continuation of IMF and World Bank
financing
which were stipulated as key to economic reforms: Reforms should
be maintained. The fund transfers will continue as long as the
reforms continue, Rice said.

Ahead of his Washington trip Ecevit strengthened his hand by
pushing nine key reform bills through Parliament. Flanked by his
Economy Minister Kemal Dervis, the Turkish premier is scheduled
to meet IMF Director Horst Kohler and World Bank President James
Wolfensohn. The IMF has already committed $19 billion to Turkey's
recovery and is expected to sign a new standby agreement with
another $10 billion attached to it later this year. Ecevit also
seeks trade privileges along with a relief in its $5 billion
military debt to
Washington in his negotiations.

AFGHANISTAN MISSION

Probably the first test of a new Turkish role and Ankara's
ability to deal with its economic woes will be seen in the
Turkish efforts to
help restructuring Afghanistan after the U.S. military actions
toppled the radical Islamic Taleban rulers there in an initial
response to the
September 11, attacks.

Turkey is sending troops to Afghanistan for the multinational
peacekeeping force, and has offered to eventually take over the
force's
leadership from Britain. But Ecevit has said he would ask U.S.
financial aid for the Afghanistan mission as Turkey was not
capable of
meeting its entire cost, Washington, however, was reported to
have granted some $20 million to Ankara for the mission and may
not be
warm to the idea of extending extra sums.

The U.S. Administration either know or will know how important
our role to bring stability to Afghanistan, Ecevit said on his
way to
Washington: This problem will probably be resolved. Otherwise it
will be too costly (for Turkey), he said.

TURKISH WORRIES ON IRAQ

Ankara was quick to announce full support for Washington's
campaign against terrorism in retaliation to the September 11
attacks and
tried to raise its profile during the U.S. operations in
Afghanistan. But Turkey is now worried about whether the
U.S.campaign could
target its southern neighbour Iraq.

Rice said Washington has not made a decision on Iraq yet although
Iraqi President Saddam Hussein was seen as a threat to the
regional
stability and neighboring countries: No advise on the means of
coping with Iraq was given to the president. Iraq was a 

query: Marx on fraud

2002-01-16 Thread Devine, James

Where is it, in volume III of CAPITAL, that Marx talks about how financial
fraud becomes common in a financial bubble and is revealed when the bubble
pops (or something like that)?

BTW, thinking about the current melt-down of Arthur Anderson accounting, it
seems a symptom of market failure: auditors compete for the dollars of those
who pay them (companies like Enron). There is thus a bias (also seen with
economic forecasters) toward telling the client what he or she wants to hear
rather than rocking the boat. Auditors seem to fail all the time, as in
Orange County (CA) back in 1994. 

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




Re: query: Marx on fraud

2002-01-16 Thread Michael Perelman

Here is a brief snippet from my Marx's Crises Theories

 Moreover, the corporate form of business, wherein ownership and management
are separated, allows those who control firms to use their position to their
own advantage (Marx 1967; 3, pp. 441, 466, and 407; also see Marx and Engels
1859, pp. 490-91).  When a crises appears, such peculations come to light.
Commenting on this phenomenon, Marx wrote:
 The English railway system rolls on the same incline plane as the European
 Public Debt system.  The ruling magnates amongst the different
 railway-nets directors contract not only -- progressively -- new loans in
 order to enlarge their network, i.e., the territory, where they rule as
 absolute monarchs, but they enlarge their respective networks in order to
 have new pretexts for engaging in new loans which enable them to pay the
 interest due to the holders of obligations, preferential shares, etc., and
 also from time to time to throw a sop to the much ill-used common
 share-holders in the shape of somewhat increased dividends.  This pleasant
 method must one day or another terminate in an ugly catastrophe.  [Marx to
 Danielson, 19 February 1881; in Marx and Engels 1975, pp. 316-17]
[

Devine, James wrote:

 Where is it, in volume III of CAPITAL, that Marx talks about how financial
 fraud becomes common in a financial bubble and is revealed when the bubble
 pops (or something like that)?

 BTW, thinking about the current melt-down of Arthur Anderson accounting, it
 seems a symptom of market failure: auditors compete for the dollars of those
 who pay them (companies like Enron). There is thus a bias (also seen with
 economic forecasters) toward telling the client what he or she wants to hear
 rather than rocking the boat. Auditors seem to fail all the time, as in
 Orange County (CA) back in 1994.

 Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine

--

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: Re: Sweden

2002-01-16 Thread Doug Henwood

Rakesh Bhandari wrote:


This brings us back to the discussion that set off the thread on
crises.  Capitalism has proven resilient and has withstood a number of
shocks over the centuries.

yes, michael, but the question is how are crises overcome? jim's 
theory leads to one conclusion--raising consumption and/or prices 
should work to restore a crisis of overaccumulation as jim d defines 
it ; grossman's, mattick's, yaffe's and cogoy's, shoul's, 
dunayevskaya's, daum's and moseley's present another diagnosis of 
the crisis, which implies that it will be cured in a different way.

the historic evidence and theoretical reasoning are  clearly in 
favor of the latter school of thought (which by the way has its 
origins in Grossman's recovery of the essence of Marx's crisis 
theory).

Wouldn't many bourgeois economists and executives agree? Liquidate, 
said Mellon; creative destruction, said Schumpeter; Enron's just the 
say things work, said Paul O'Neill just the other day. What's 
specifically Marxist about the notion? It's the Keynesians who are 
the odd ones out.

Doug




Re: social democracy

2002-01-16 Thread Bill Burgess

According to a 1998 NBER paper by Morck, the Wallenberg family controls 
corporate assets equal to 40% of the market value of all corporations on 
the Swedish stock exchange.

Statistics Canada tells us that 25 enterprises in Canada control 41% of all 
corporate assets in the country.

Ownership concentration is lower in the US, e.g., 85% of Standard and Poor 
corporations were widely held, while in Canada only 22% of TSE corporations 
were widely held (data from the late 1980s; widely held=ownership positions 
under 20%).

The Morck paper (cited by Michael P. on Pen-L a couple of years ago) does 
an absurd regression between inherited wealth and variables like the level 
of public debt and social assistance in various countries, but the data 
they collect is generally consistent with a connection between ownership 
concentration and social democracy.

Bill Burgess


At 07:06 PM 15/01/02 -0500, you wrote:
Michael Perelman wrote:

Another Swedish question.  Doesn't Sweden have one of the most
concentrated industrial structures in the world?

Yup, think it does. The Wallenberg family's Investor trust controls some 
enormous portion of Swedish industry. Such structures are good for social 
democracy; dispersed stockowner structures like the U.S.'s are its enemy.

Doug




Beijing's public servants lose free medical

2002-01-16 Thread Ulhas Joglekar

The Economic Times

Sunday, January 13, 2002

Beijing's public servants lose free medical

PTI SATURDAY, JANUARY 12, 2002  1:55:39 AM

BEIJING: With China embracing market-oriented reforms, some 9,90,000 public
employees in the Chinese capital will have to bid farewell to free medical
service, a privilege for civil servants and a large number of employees at
non-profit-making organisations over the past decades, a report said on
Friday.

Medical insurance and a fixed amount of subsidy will replace the traditional
government-funded medicare for civil servants before July one, Beijing
Morning Post quoted a source from the municipal labour and social security
bureau as saying.

The ministry of finance and the ministry of labour and social security are
working on a set of detailed rules on the issue, it quoted Zhang Dave, an
official in charge of Medicare at the Bureau.

Statistics show that some 2.16 million people in Beijing have got medical
insurance by the end of last year, and the figure is expected to rise to 3.5
or four million by the end of this year and six million by the end of 2003.
The report said the bureau will double its efforts this year to ensure full
coverage of medical insurance among all in-service employees and retirees of
Beijing-based government offices, non-profit-making bodies and all types of
enterprises.

Free medicare and housing were among the major privileges for public
servants in China, who were known as having iron rice bowls. - PTI

Copyright © 2001 Times Internet Limited. All rights reserved.






Re: Two, three many geniuses

2002-01-16 Thread Eugene Coyle




Tom Walker wrote:

As
of 10:20 p.m pacific time, January 15, a google search on genius of capitalism
and enron returned 453 hits. Following the below news item from AFP, I've
added a few more pre-enron allusions to the genius. I do believe Secretary
O'Neill has spoken the phrase that will someday appear in his obituary.
snip>
 Speaking on the CBS show "Face
the Nation", Senator Joseph Lieberman, a former Democratic vice-presidential
candidate, described O'Neill's comments as "outrageous".
"With all respect to Secretary O'Neill,
those statements are outrageous. I hope that they're - they sound more
cold-blooded than he means them to be," he said.
"Those are statements that might have
been made by the secretary of the treasury in the 18th century, but not
in the 21st century."
"The death that Enron experienced was
not a natural death. We know enough to know that now," he added. "This
was not capitalism as we want it to be."
 snip>




In my dreams I imagine that an alert CBS journalist immediately asked
Lieberman "Just how DO you want capitalism to be?" And in my nightmares
I can hear his answer.
Gene Coyle








Re: Re: Two, three many geniuses

2002-01-16 Thread Ian Murray





  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Eugene 
  Coyle 
  
  In my dreams I imagine that an alert CBS 
  journalist immediately asked Lieberman "Just how DO you want capitalism to 
  be?" And in my nightmares I can hear his answer. 
  
  Gene Coyle 
  
  http://www.nightmareanalysis.org 
  
  
  Ian


Re: Re: Re: Sweden

2002-01-16 Thread Rakesh Bhandari

Rakesh Bhandari wrote:


This brings us back to the discussion that set off the thread on
crises.  Capitalism has proven resilient and has withstood a number of
shocks over the centuries.

yes, michael, but the question is how are crises overcome? jim's 
theory leads to one conclusion--raising consumption and/or prices 
should work to restore a crisis of overaccumulation as jim d 
defines it ; grossman's, mattick's, yaffe's and cogoy's, shoul's, 
dunayevskaya's, daum's and moseley's present another diagnosis of 
the crisis, which implies that it will be cured in a different way.

the historic evidence and theoretical reasoning are  clearly in 
favor of the latter school of thought (which by the way has its 
origins in Grossman's recovery of the essence of Marx's crisis 
theory).

Wouldn't many bourgeois economists and executives agree? Liquidate, 
said Mellon; creative destruction, said Schumpeter; Enron's just the 
say things work, said Paul O'Neill just the other day. What's 
specifically Marxist about the notion? It's the Keynesians who are 
the odd ones out.

Doug


well the so called orthodox marxist answer here is the Keynesians 
were not the odd ones out (Samuelson was king) until the mixed 
economy went up in staglationary ashes and its limits thereby exposed.
as michael p has underlined elsewhere, while schumpeter thought 
recessions, bouts of liquidation, periodic douches are in fact an 
intrinsic moment in the capitalist development process, he argued 
that the descent to full scale depression was the result of bad govt 
policy. I can't remember where I read that a one Smithies (a 
prominent economist who may have been Schumpeter's student) 
thoroughly criticized Schumpeter's explanation for the Depression.
That is, Marxists argue that bourgeois economists and actors alike 
are boxed in by their ultimate belief in the equilibriating 
properties of the system--this is revealed, as Christopher Freeman 
points out, in Schumpeter's failed attempt to keep his vision and 
Walras' vision together. Schumpeter was scathingly critical however 
of purely monetary theories of disequilibrium presented by von Mises, 
Hayek and their popularizer today Mark Skousen.
rb






the Corps.

2002-01-16 Thread Ian Murray

[link below]

American Corporations: the New Sovereigns
  By LAWRENCE E. MITCHELL
  Chronice of Higher Education, 2.1.18

One of the most striking yet overlooked aspects of
the
  current globalization debate is the quiet retreat of
sovereign
  power -- including that of the United States -- in
the face of
  imperial conquests by modern American corporations.
At least
  until the recent downturns in the stock market --
both the
  general one in 2000 and the sharper one following the
attacks
  of September 11 -- a number of these companies,
including
  Wal-Mart, Microsoft, Intel, General Electric, and
  Hewlett-Packard, have had market capitalizations
larger than
  the gross national products of a number of developed
and
  developing countries, including Spain, Kuwait,
Argentina,
  Greece, Poland, and Thailand. The statistics
overwhelmingly
  demonstrate that such corporations and American
capital are
  increasingly dominant throughout the world. At last
count,
  American institutional assets constituted an
aggregate 66.8
  percent of the total in five major foreign economies,
  including those of France and Germany.

  Modern democracies are built to ensure the restraint
of power
  and the pursuit of public will by forgoing efficiency
for
  patience and consensus. In contrast, the modern
American
  corporation, with its centralized control and
absolute power
  in the board, is brilliantly and devastatingly built
for
  economic efficiency -- the ability to amass huge
resources and
  deploy them instantly. No socialist economy has ever
had the
  command-and-control capacities of the American
corporation.

  The scary thing is that we have come to see these
corporations
  as built for a single purpose, to maximize
stockholder wealth,
  and we have created them in a manner that exempts
them from
  any of the normal moral constraints we expect from
governments
  or individuals.

  It has not always been so. Several factors led to the
  development of this new ethic over the last couple of
decades.
  Among them were deregulation beginning during the
Reagan era,
  together with an increased emphasis on wealth
maximization as
  a social goal; the expectations created in
stockholders by the
  quick money made in hostile takeovers, especially
during the
  1980s; and the charging bull market of the 1990s.
Those
  phenomena have instilled stockholder expectations of
large and
  immediate returns.

  American corporations and their managers are thus
increasingly
  driven by the faceless, soulless capital markets --
markets
  composed of individuals with consciences but creating
a
  collective that lacks one. Moreover, pressure on
corporations
  to show higher stock prices fast has been increased
by the
  enormous growth in institutional investors, which now
own
  about half of the equity market in the United States.

  They also dominate institutional investing in foreign
markets
  like those of Western Europe. Institutional investors
  compensate their managers on the basis of their
ability to
  raise the values of their portfolios immediately, so
those
  managers have every incentive to push for short-term
  stock-price maximization over long-term gain and
corporate
  stability.

  In addition to the pressure of institutional
investors,
  American investment banks, and consulting companies,
markets
  are  driven by nongovernmental organizations like the
World
  Bank and the International Monetary Fund. Those
players have
  implicitly, and sometimes explicitly, conditioned the
supply
  of American capital (and in the case of the
nongovernmental
  organizations, largely Western capital) to overseas
markets on
  those markets' adoption of American-style,
  stockholder-centered, corporate capitalism.

  To be sure, American corporations have brought the
world great
  benefits: increased travel, communication, health,
nutrition,
  and production capabilities. They have also brought
Americans
  a higher material standard of living. But it is, in
large
  part, the stockholder-centered nature of the
corporation that
  leads it to behave in ways that no thoughtful person
really
  wants, ways that most of us would consider to be
  irresponsible.

  Although no legal doctrine requires it, American
capitalist
  culture has adopted the view that maximizing stock
price is
  the purpose of the corporation, its reason for being.
Capital
  markets demand that maximization, and punish those
  corporations that fail to meet short-term
expectations -- just
  look at the stock price of any corporation that
reports
  disappointing quarterly earnings. Corporate structure
implies
  stock-price maximization: Only stockholders vote for
  directors, only stockholders have the right to sue,
and only
  stockholders have the ability to sell the company out
from
  under the directors.

  Coupled with the maximization goal is the limited
liability
  that shields the corporation. While corporations can
be sued
  for causing harm, and sometimes 

WB loans or grants?

2002-01-16 Thread Ian Murray


U.S.-Europe Clash Stalls World Bank Aid Plan
Bush Seeks Grants, Not Loans, for Poor

By Paul Blustein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, January 16, 2002; Page E01



A plan to increase World Bank aid to poor countries has
stalled because of a dispute between the United States
and European countries over a Bush administration
proposal to convert many of the bank's loans to grants.

Officials familiar with the dispute predicted that it
will end in compromise. But that would require
concessions from two strong-willed antagonists -- Paul
H. O'Neill, the U.S. Treasury secretary, and Clare
Short, the British development minister.

In the meantime, the rift is dimming the hopes of aid
advocates who have intensified calls for major boosts
in funding for poor countries in the aftermath of the
Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. World Bank President James
D. Wolfensohn, among others, has argued that the
attacks underscore the need for a huge effort to reduce
global poverty and eradicate the root causes of
terrorism. But O'Neill has voiced skepticism about
whether such an initiative would work, and the latest
U.S.-European discord suggests that aid officials will
have to scramble just to ensure that previously planned
increases come through.

Under the plan that has been put on hold, the world's
rich countries would contribute $12.5 billion to help
fund the next three years' worth of aid by the
International Development Association (IDA), the arm of
the World Bank that assists very poor nations such as
Bangladesh, Honduras and Malawi. That would be a 16
percent increase over the amount that was contributed
for the three-year period ending June 30.

In contrast with World Bank loans to middle income
countries such as Brazil and Thailand, which are made
at terms roughly comparable to those available from
private lenders, the bank's IDA loans are extended on
easy, concessional terms -- typically a 40-year
repayment schedule, with no payments for the first 10
years and no interest charges other than a 0.75 percent
service fee.

A meeting in Switzerland last month among
representatives of rich countries aimed at finalizing
the details concerning the next round of IDA funding.
It ended with the U.S. delegation in sharp disagreement
with the British and other Europeans, according to
participants.

The main bone of contention concerned a Bush proposal
for the IDA to provide up to half of its aid to the
poorest countries as grants rather than as concessional
loans. Treasury officials contend that it doesn't make
sense to heap additional debt on such countries and
that the proposal wouldn't cost the World Bank much,
especially in the early years, since countries don't
start repaying IDA loans for 10 years anyway.

But the British and several northern European countries
are vehemently opposed. Part of their reasoning is that
poor countries are less likely to squander World Bank
aid if they know they have to repay it someday. Some
also suspect that the O'Neill Treasury, which has been
critical of the World Bank, is plotting to undermine
the bank's finances. Also opposed to the U.S. plan,
though less strongly, are countries such as France,
which has said it favors converting about 10 percent of
IDA loans to grants.

We will have to meet again, and we will either have to
convince the others or compromise, or we won't have an
agreement, a Treasury official said yesterday. Most
countries said the amount they will put on the table
[for new IDA funding] will depend on resolution of the
grants issue. I think there's an attitude to reach a
compromise, but the U.K. is the most difficult of the
group.

Before the lower-level officials who attended the
Switzerland meeting can work something out, O'Neill
will have to bridge his differences with Short and with
Gordon Brown, the British chancellor of the exchequer.
The next major opportunity to narrow the gap is a Feb.
8-9 meeting of the Group of Seven finance ministers in
Canada.

Until they do, it will be hard to get to resolution,
said John Donaldson, the World Bank's adviser for U.S.
affairs. When you have the U.S. starting at 50 percent
and some at zero and the French struggling to get to
10, that's a big gap. Everybody knows it's going to end
up somewhere in the middle, but they haven't gotten to
that point yet.

Another source of friction, though less serious than
the grant issue, was a U.S. proposal to make the amount
of contributions to IDA contingent on the World Bank
and poor countries meeting certain performance targets.
The administration is planning to contribute a base
amount of $850 million annually to IDA for the next
three years, up from the current level of $803 million,
and provide more -- $950 million in 2003 and $1.05
billion in 2004 -- if the performance targets are met.

The proposal reflects O'Neill's oft-expressed concern
that much of the money flowing to poor countries is
ineffective in boosting growth and productivity, so aid
agencies must be more rigorous in 

Mark Skousen.

2002-01-16 Thread michael pugliese


   I'm curious. Son of W. Cleon Skousen? Author of one of the
nuttier anti-communist classics, The Naked Communist,  which
cribs from Clinton's  mentor at Georgetown, 
Michael Pugliese




capitalism as we want it to be

2002-01-16 Thread Tom Walker



Gene Coyle wrote,

In my dreams I imagine that an alert CBS journalist immediately asked 
Lieberman "Just how DO you want capitalism to be?" And in my 
nightmares I can hear his answer.

Wouldn't that just be where the Enronsgive 
70% of their campaign contributions to the Demos? Or am I 
cynical?


Talking points for TV appearance on Four-day work week

2002-01-16 Thread Tom Walker



The show is on a CTV specialty cable channel and 
the segment airs at 7:40 p.m. Eastern time this evening.

A House of Cards

The way we work in North America is a HOUSE OF 
CARDS and most of us know it at some level or other. When I tell people about 
the research I do on shorter work time one of the comments I frequently hear is 
"Oh, thats such a sensible idea -- IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN."

As a culture, we seem to be transfixed by the 
notion that the house of cards cannot fall and the sensible solution cannot be 
enacted. Why?

-- Social policy in North America is highly 
leveraged by a fixation on "labour force attachment"

(unemployment insurance, pensions, health premiums, 
paid holidays and vacations)

This means that although amount of benefit is only 
loosely tied to labour output, eligibility for benefit is highly restricted and 
biased against irregular labour force attachment (part time, on call, contract 
"self-employment")

The way that governments finance social benefit 
programs creates financial incentives for employers to either overwork employees 
or marginalize them in benefit-lite, contigent work.

Eligibility for out-of-work benefits, such as EI 
and social assistance, are, of course, increasingly restricted by job search 
requirements. The rhetoric of 'personal responsibility' cuts against the grain 
both of the original philosophy of social insurance and the bald fact that 
government anti-inflation policy for decades has relied on deliberately 
maintaining a certain level of unemployment. The 

-- Job creation has become the new sorcerers 
apprentice

People used to be afraid that machines, then 
automation, then computers would destroy jobs. "Oh no," the economists reassured 
us, "in the long run technology creates more jobs than it destroys." 
Unfortunately, the economists were both right and irrelevant. In order to create 
those jobs, jobs, jobs an ever greater proportion of our previously non-economic 
life and world has to be handed over to economic activity. 

As Keynes said in the long run were all dead. The 
steady encroachment of economic values into all aspects of our lives will see to 
that.

A substantial proportion of work being done in 
North America can only be described as zero-sum 'gate-keeping', 'enabling' 
'enticing' and 'healing'. The gate keepers job is to keep you out. The 
enablers job is to get you in. You can see that the two work somewhat at cross 
purposes. Similarly, the enticers job is to whittle away at your self-esteem so 
that youll buy something you dont need. The healers job is to tell you youre 
O.K. even if you can't afford that new digi-vice.

So-called education is the biggest industry in the 
world. That industry defines itself increasingly by its role in preparing people 
for the labour force. Ironically, the less effectively it actually performs that 
function, the more in demand its services are (and the less can education 
spending be "wasted" on frills like arts and philosophy, except to the extent 
that those activities are professionalized) and the more actual work is created 
within the industry. 

Job training and placement are undoubtedly the 
biggest make work projects going. The dirty secret is that for the most part 
such training and placement does little more than place restrictions on job 
entry and then "train" people to overcome them.

A further large amount of productive work goes into 
supplying the core unproductive services. So even this productive work is 
ultimately unproductive.

-- Unemployment has become the leading leisure 
activity in North America

There are more varieties of unemployment today than 
the standard definition of being out of work and seeking employment. Many people 
are underemployed, which means that either some of their skills are not utilized 
or that for some of their time they are, in effect, unemployed. Many people who 
have full-time jobs are idle and bored during their non-employment hours because 
they have nothing better to do. During their free time they vegetate rather than 
recreate.

One consequence of this is that having more free 
time has little appeal for those whose free time is already unfulfilling. 
Another is the segregation of non-work social (and asocial) life along lines 
drawn by employment. Those who are looking for work have fewer opportunities to 
casually mix with the regularly employed and thus are denied social exposure 
that could make looking for work unnecessary.

-- One thing a House of Cards is not: 
flexible.What we see instead is the need for greater adaptability 
from the parts precisely because the whole is so brittle. In a past life 
contracting on government social policy research, by far the greatest 
requirement for flexibility from the work force came from the monolithic 
inflexibility of calendars generated by the divinely ordained fiscal year. 
Private industry too has their fiscal periods, their product development, 
retooling, marketing and launch 

RE: Re: Re: Two, three many geniuses

2002-01-16 Thread Max Sawicky

I would like to announce that there is no way in Hell that I
would ever support J. Lieberman for president.  Where
have you gone, Monica Moorehead?

mbs




In my dreams I imagine that an alert CBS journalist immediately asked
Lieberman Just how DO you want capitalism to be?  And in my nightmares I
can hear his answer.

Gene Coyle

http://www.nightmareanalysis.org

Ian






managerialism and elimination of the relative surplus population

2002-01-16 Thread Forstater, Mathew

In addition to the piece quoted by Rakesh and cited by me previously
from An American Dilemma Revisited, there are:

Racial Inequality in the Managerial Age: An Alternative Vision to the
NRC Report (in The National Research Council's Report on the Status of
Black Americans, 1940-85) by William A. Darity Jr. The American
Economic Review, Vol. 80, No. 2, Papers and Proceedings of the Hundred
and Second Annual Meeting of the American Economic Association. (May,
1990), pp. 247-251.

The Managerial Class and Industrial Policy by William A. Darity, Jr.
Industrial Relations, Spring, 1986, 25, pp. 212-227.

Darity also cites Ehrenreich and Ehrenreich The Professional Managerial
Class in Pat Walker, ed.: Between Labor and Capital, Boston: South End
Press, 1979.

Some of the issued are also discussed in Darity and Myers, The Black
Underclass: Critical Essays on Race and Unwantedness, and in an article
by Darity in the Journal of Economic Issues June 1999 I believe.

Social management policies are used to eliminate the relative surplus
population no longer functioning even as a reserve army of labor:
increased incarceration, institutionalization, population control
policies, etc.

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I don't know if anyone is familiar with Darity's thesis about
managerial
society or the managerial mode of production, which he believes has
developed out of capitalism. I am not sure if I agree that managerial
society is a distinct mode of production that had superceded
capitalism,
but I think the thesis that managerial capitalism is another stage of
capitalism has something to it. In the managerial society, experts
run
things and the system is based on credentialism. I can find the cites
if
anyone';s interested. mat

Mathew, I am not familiar with this thesis (though I recall you bringing
it 
up on this list earlier) but I am very interested in it.  The thesis
appears 
to have some surface cogency, especially with regards to credentialism,
the 
explosion in jail population in the U.S., populist authoritarianism in 
politics on the rise since 1980, etc.
I would appreciate those citations.

-Frank G.

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combating misrepresentation

2002-01-16 Thread Devine, James

Rakesh Bhandari wrote:... the question is how are crises overcome? jim's
theory leads to one conclusion--raising consumption and/or prices should
work to restore a crisis of overaccumulation as jim d defines it ...

This is a misrepresentation of my viewpoint. It would be like saying that
Fred Moseley advocates higher unemployment and wage cuts as a way of solving
the current crisis. Both assertions are wrong. 

Rather, as I said, I believe that crisis tendencies are inherent in
capitalism, so that to abolish them it is necessary to replace it with
another mode of production (though that mode may have its own crises, as the
old USSR did). 

In the case of over-accumulation relative to consumer demand (one topic of
my 1994 RESEARCH IN POLITICAL ECONOMY article and the specific form of my
crisis theory being criticized by Bhandari), raising consumption does help
deal with the immediate problem, but that is an abstract and superficial
solution. It's the kind of thing that makes sense only within the halls of
academe or some other equally isolated location. 

That is, it isn't a solution _at all_, since in the real world of today's
capitalism you can't raise consumption without changing the concrete way in
which capitalism operates, i.e., what I've been calling the regime.
(Similarly, you can't simply raise prices -- to avoid a Fisherian debt
deflation -- without changing the regime.) Specifically, that means a very
difficult transition from a weak labor regime to a strong labor one. 

By the names I give the regimes, it should be very clear -- except to those
who refuse to understand -- that the transition would involve _massive class
struggles_. I said this before, but maybe this time it will sink in...
Frankly, given the globalized nature of capitalism these days, it is very
hard to imagine that a transition to a strong labor era would arrive in
the near future (i.e., during the next few decades).

Even with this kind of transition, there would be crises. But -- and this is
a major point of my theory -- the form of these crises would be different
from that of a weak labor era.  

BTW, if anyone wants to characterize my views of crisis theory, here's a
very abstract summary: if the orthodoxy among macroeconomists (e.g., Brad
deLong) can be described as short-term Keynesian/long-term classical, I
would say that I'm a short-term Keynesian/long-term Marxist. That is,
Keynes (and sometimes even modern orthodox economists) can provide important
insights on the nature of capitalist dynamics in the short run, especially
when it concerns financial issues.  (Even when these folks do not have
anything to contribute, it's important to take them seriously rather than
simply dismissing them.) But in the long run (roughly, a decade or more),
the dynamics of capitalism are those of accumulation driven by the rate of
profit, with the system driving itself into a crisis of one sort or another
(ecological, economic, etc.) 

How this works in practice depends on concrete circumstances. For example,
the North moderated serious crises for decades by dumping many of their
costs on the South and on nature. 

I know that this is heresy to some, but I only want to hear how it is
illogical, contrary to specific data, one-sided (leaving out important parts
of the societal totality), etc. Giving vague references to empirical data,
worshiping Big Name thinkers, misrepresenting my opinions, or accusing me of
lacking theoretical purity simply prove such critics to be shallow or
dogmatic. 
Jim Devine




Re: combating misrepresentation

2002-01-16 Thread Rakesh Bhandari

now, now, Jim, who's becoming unhinged?

Rakesh Bhandari wrote:... the question is how are crises overcome? jim's
theory leads to one conclusion--raising consumption and/or prices should
work to restore a crisis of overaccumulation as jim d defines it ...

This is a misrepresentation of my viewpoint.


at least it was not said behind your back; moreover, it is the same 
idea that Fred got from your argument.


  It would be like saying that
Fred Moseley advocates higher unemployment and wage cuts as a way of solving
the current crisis. Both assertions are wrong.

Situation is not parallel at all. You say that increased consumption 
would stabilize capitalism at least in the short term. Marxian theory 
says that this is false but Marxian theory also says that accepting 
wage cuts will not stabilize capitalism in the long run anyway--as 
you rightly said massive devaluation and destruction of capital is 
also needed; so therefore instead of attempting to help capitalists 
solve their problem of profitability at the workers' expense, workers 
should protect themselves and in organizing to do so should prepare 
themselves to overthrow this mode of production that visits 
oppressions and barbarity on humanity.



Rather, as I said, I believe that crisis tendencies are inherent in
capitalism, so that to abolish them it is necessary to replace it with
another mode of production (though that mode may have its own crises, as the
old USSR did).

It does not matter whether we phrase monger about the contradictions 
of capitalism; it matters how those contradictions are explained in 
systematic theory. Grossman's presentation remains the key event in 
the history of Marxian economic thought, but he has been developed in 
fruitful ways by, say, Carchedi--who's another of one those really 
big name thinkers whom I worship.



In the case of over-accumulation relative to consumer demand (one topic of
my 1994 RESEARCH IN POLITICAL ECONOMY article and the specific form of my
crisis theory being criticized by Bhandari), raising consumption does help
deal with the immediate problem, but that is an abstract and superficial
solution.

well according to marxian theory it's no solution at all to the 
problem of crisis, and it is not a solution either.


It's the kind of thing that makes sense only within the halls of
academe or some other equally isolated location.

you're going to have make a clear point to ensure that it's not misrepresented.





That is, it isn't a solution _at all_,

so what does in fact deal with the immediate problem is not a 
solution at all. it seems to me that you're playing with words.


  since in the real world of today's
capitalism you can't raise consumption without changing the concrete way in
which capitalism operates, i.e., what I've been calling the regime.

yes this is Marx's critique of Mill. But I also doubt that changing 
the regime--that is installing a social democratic one--would heal 
capitalism of its crises.


(Similarly, you can't simply raise prices -- to avoid a Fisherian debt
deflation -- without changing the regime.) Specifically, that means a very
difficult transition from a weak labor regime to a strong labor one.

but that regime shift--which would leave the relations of production 
in tact--would not remove the cause of crises.




By the names I give the regimes, it should be very clear -- except to those
who refuse to understand -- that the transition would involve _massive class
struggles_. I said this before, but maybe this time it will sink in...

you are advocating class struggles to better the distribution of 
income, not to abolish the commodity-, money-, capital- and 
wage-forms themselves which are the root causes of the crisis.


Frankly, given the globalized nature of capitalism these days, it is very
hard to imagine that a transition to a strong labor era would arrive in
the near future (i.e., during the next few decades).

but this is a matter of hypothetical reasoning; even if there were 
such a shift, the problem would not be solved. That's the Marxian 
argument.



Even with this kind of transition, there would be crises. But -- and this is
a major point of my theory -- the form of these crises would be different
from that of a weak labor era.

so you seem to be saying--and I must guess because you are hardly 
clear here at all--there could be crises if your strong labor regime 
were not coupled with some kind of planning; that is, you are saying 
the anarchy of production would still result in departures from 
equilibrium growth.

But then a strong labor/high consumption regime with state guidance 
of investments would only solve underconsumption and 
disproportionality crises, but the cause of general crises is not in 
maldistribution of value between workers and capitalists or among 
capitalists.

It is in the production of surplus value itself. Overcoming crises 
then requires an abolition of the vertical exploitative relations of 
production, that is 

Re: Re: combating misrepresentation

2002-01-16 Thread Michael Perelman

Come on now. I am not concentrating on e-mail, trying to finish Mirowski's
new book -- but first you characterize Jim repeatedly and then say he is
coming unhinged.  You have too much to contribute to get into all this
personal stuff.

This discussion has been for the most part very useful.  Let's keep it
that way.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 03:46:55PM -0800, Rakesh Bhandari wrote:
 now, now, Jim, who's becoming unhinged?
 
 Rakesh Bhandari wrote:... the question is how are crises overcome? jim's
 theory leads to one conclusion--raising consumption and/or prices should
 work to restore a crisis of overaccumulation as jim d defines it ...
 
 This is a misrepresentation of my viewpoint.
 
 
 at least it was not said behind your back; moreover, it is the same 
 idea that Fred got from your argument.
 
 
   It would be like saying that
 Fred Moseley advocates higher unemployment and wage cuts as a way of solving
 the current crisis. Both assertions are wrong.
 
 Situation is not parallel at all. You say that increased consumption 
 would stabilize capitalism at least in the short term. Marxian theory 
 says that this is false but Marxian theory also says that accepting 
 wage cuts will not stabilize capitalism in the long run anyway--as 
 you rightly said massive devaluation and destruction of capital is 
 also needed; so therefore instead of attempting to help capitalists 
 solve their problem of profitability at the workers' expense, workers 
 should protect themselves and in organizing to do so should prepare 
 themselves to overthrow this mode of production that visits 
 oppressions and barbarity on humanity.
 
 
 
 Rather, as I said, I believe that crisis tendencies are inherent in
 capitalism, so that to abolish them it is necessary to replace it with
 another mode of production (though that mode may have its own crises, as the
 old USSR did).
 
 It does not matter whether we phrase monger about the contradictions 
 of capitalism; it matters how those contradictions are explained in 
 systematic theory. Grossman's presentation remains the key event in 
 the history of Marxian economic thought, but he has been developed in 
 fruitful ways by, say, Carchedi--who's another of one those really 
 big name thinkers whom I worship.
 
 
 
 In the case of over-accumulation relative to consumer demand (one topic of
 my 1994 RESEARCH IN POLITICAL ECONOMY article and the specific form of my
 crisis theory being criticized by Bhandari), raising consumption does help
 deal with the immediate problem, but that is an abstract and superficial
 solution.
 
 well according to marxian theory it's no solution at all to the 
 problem of crisis, and it is not a solution either.
 
 
 It's the kind of thing that makes sense only within the halls of
 academe or some other equally isolated location.
 
 you're going to have make a clear point to ensure that it's not misrepresented.
 
 
 
 
 
 That is, it isn't a solution _at all_,
 
 so what does in fact deal with the immediate problem is not a 
 solution at all. it seems to me that you're playing with words.
 
 
   since in the real world of today's
 capitalism you can't raise consumption without changing the concrete way in
 which capitalism operates, i.e., what I've been calling the regime.
 
 yes this is Marx's critique of Mill. But I also doubt that changing 
 the regime--that is installing a social democratic one--would heal 
 capitalism of its crises.
 
 
 (Similarly, you can't simply raise prices -- to avoid a Fisherian debt
 deflation -- without changing the regime.) Specifically, that means a very
 difficult transition from a weak labor regime to a strong labor one.
 
 but that regime shift--which would leave the relations of production 
 in tact--would not remove the cause of crises.
 
 
 
 
 By the names I give the regimes, it should be very clear -- except to those
 who refuse to understand -- that the transition would involve _massive class
 struggles_. I said this before, but maybe this time it will sink in...
 
 you are advocating class struggles to better the distribution of 
 income, not to abolish the commodity-, money-, capital- and 
 wage-forms themselves which are the root causes of the crisis.
 
 
 Frankly, given the globalized nature of capitalism these days, it is very
 hard to imagine that a transition to a strong labor era would arrive in
 the near future (i.e., during the next few decades).
 
 but this is a matter of hypothetical reasoning; even if there were 
 such a shift, the problem would not be solved. That's the Marxian 
 argument.
 
 
 
 Even with this kind of transition, there would be crises. But -- and this is
 a major point of my theory -- the form of these crises would be different
 from that of a weak labor era.
 
 so you seem to be saying--and I must guess because you are hardly 
 clear here at all--there could be crises if your strong labor regime 
 were not coupled with some kind of planning; that is, you are saying 
 the anarchy of 

Re: Re: Re: combating misrepresentation

2002-01-16 Thread Rakesh Bhandari

Come on now. I am not concentrating on e-mail, trying to finish Mirowski's
new book -- but first you characterize Jim repeatedly and then say he is
coming unhinged.

I characterized Jim as a social democrat after he himself spoke 
favorably of such a regime in terms of doing good for the capitalist 
class itself. And I drew the same implication from his theorizing 
that Fred did. Now Jim's mad because I don't understand what he means 
when he says by solution he did not mean 'solution'.
Rakesh




up next; the globalization of accounting standards

2002-01-16 Thread Ian Murray

The International Herald Tribune | www.iht.com

Accounting for Enron: Global Ripple Effects
Eric Pfanner International Herald Tribune
Thursday, January 17, 2002

Failure Brings Call for Tougher Standards

LONDON The collapse of Enron, the giant energy trading
company, has challenged the notion that U.S. companies'
accounting is the most reliable and transparent in the
world, some experts say, potentially taking a bit of
the shine off the U.S. financial markets' appeal to
international investors.

While analysts question whether any rules could have
prevented the failure of Enron, they say the
spectacular downfall of what was once the world's
seventh-most valuable company could also heighten the
push for international accounting and auditing
standards to replace the patchwork of
country-by-country guide lines that exist today.

Because of the collapse of Enron - and the seeming
inability of its auditor, Arthur Andersen, to head off
trouble - many international investors are taking a
more critical look at other U.S. shareholdings,
analysts say.

One of the fundamental strengths of the U.S. stock
market, even in the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist
attacks, has been the idea that American companies
offer the most reliable earnings streams. But a series
of accounting scandals, culminating with Enron, and the
increased use of questionable ways companies report
their financial results, appear to have shaken that
notion somewhat.

There is no sign yet that people have lost confidence
in corporate America, said David Bowers, chief
investment strategist at Merrill Lynch. But this will
be something to watch. If you can't figure out what a
company is earning, how can you value it?

Some analysts say international accounting and auditing
standards, being put forth by several industry groups,
could make that task easier, at least for cross-border
investors. The new standards could also force
accounting firms to more rigorously separate their
auditing operations from the lucrative consulting work
that they often do for the same clients.

European regulators have been in the vanguard in
adopting rules proposed by the London-based
International Accounting Standards Board, aimed at
creating uniform standards around the world. By 2005,
any company whose stock is traded on a European
exchange will have to adhere to this code.

American regulators have been seen as more reluctant to
adopt these rules, in part because of lobbying from
U.S. companies that object to how stock options would
have to be accounted for under those guidelines. One
expert, who insisted he not be named, said the
attention generated by the Enron case was likely to
lead to some sort of compromise under which U.S. and
international regulations would move more closely
together, leading to their adoption in the United
States, too.

There has been a perception for years that U.S.
standards were the best in the world, said John
Collier, secretary-general of the Institute of
Chartered Accountants of England and Wales. Now that
notion has been at least challenged.

American accounting standards have long been seen as
the strictest. In part because U.S. companies face a
greater threat of shareholder lawsuits, U.S. rules are
more detailed than those in Europe, which are based
more on broad principles than on specific guidelines.

That kind of flexibility has benefits, Mr. Collier
said. He said that an Enron-style disaster would have
been less likely to occur in Britain, where accounting
standards more closely mirror the international
guidelines, because the company would have been unable
to keep the special partnerships, which are the focus
of the company's demise, off its balance sheet.

Another expert on international accounting rules
disagreed, saying that the problem with Enron was not
the rules but whether they were followed properly by
the company and its auditor, Andersen.

Some experts predict that new international
restrictions are likely to deal with what they see as
inherent conflicts between auditing and consulting
work. Critics contend that these arrangements -
highlighted by the Enron case - lead auditors to give
less careful scrutiny to company's books for fear of
losing the consulting contracts.

The European Commission, for example, is currently
drafting new guidelines on the auditing industry, and
the Enron collapse could prompt regulators to call for
greater separation of consulting and auditing work,
said Michael Bromwich, a professor at the London School
of Economics.

There's a very strong view in Continental Europe that
consulting and auditing should be separated, he said.
This will give impetus to that.

Bush Advisers Reviewed Enron

President George W. Bush's economic team, led by
Lawrence Lindsey, a former Enron adviser, conducted an
internal review of whether the company's collapse would
hurt the overall economy and concluded there was little
risk, Reuters reported from Washington.

Mr. Lindsey and other aides were doing their jobs by

Mommy what's a catfish?

2002-01-16 Thread Ian Murray

The International Herald Tribune | www.iht.com

Catfish Are Catfish, Unless They're Caught in a Trade
War
Elizabeth Becker New York Times Service
Thursday, January 17, 2002



BALCH, Arkansas With blue herons circling overhead as
fishermen pull in the day's catch, Joey Lowery explains
why he is doing battle with the Vietnamese to save his
own and other Mississippi Delta catfish farms.

To him, the issue is simple. Vietnam should stop
labeling imported basa fish as catfish and thereby end
what he calls its unfair piggybacking on an industry
built from scratch by farmers in Arkansas, Alabama,
Louisiana and Mississippi.

We're not protectionists. I've never been against the
Vietnamese selling their fish in this country - I just
want them to label them properly and call a spade a
spade, said Mr. Lowery, 38, a farmer who carved out 55
ponds on a farm he inherited from his father.

To Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona and a
celebrated prisoner of war in Vietnam, the issue is
equally clear.

Just when the United States finally reached a trade
agreement with its old and bitter enemy, a clutch of
Mississippi Delta farmers got Congress to erect an
offensive trade barrier.

No doubt, Mr. McCain said, on behalf of several
large, wealthy U.S. agribusinesses that will handsomely
profit by killing competition from Vietnamese catfish
imports.

In the bruising tug of war over how to manage global
trade, few issues cut closer to the bone than
agriculture and its cousin aquaculture. On one side are
industrial nations that use farm policy not only to
promote their agribusinesses overseas but to protect
their markets and farmers at home. European countries
have also used their agricultural subsidies to defend
the pastoral countryside from the onslaught of
urbanization.

Working against them are developing countries like
Vietnam that are trying to raise their standard of
living by breaking into those very markets with less
expensive products like catfish.

By translating the name of its tra fish as catfish
rather than basa, the common English name of that
species, the Vietnamese have captured 20 percent of the
U.S. catfish market. Tra looks like catfish; tra tastes
like catfish.

Since Americans consume 120 million pounds (55 million
kilograms) of catfish fillets, that is a lucrative
niche.

In Arkansas alone, the catfish industry brought in $750
million last year, according to Ted McNulty, the
Arkansas state official who oversees aquaculture.

This fall Congress sided with the delta farmers and
temporarily forbade the Vietnamese from using catfish
in their labels. Now, as the Senate prepares to take up
the farm bill when it returns later this month, it is
debating whether to make that a permanent ban.

Understandably, the Vietnamese do not want to give up
their market.

We're totally against changing our name, said Pham
Binh Ninh, deputy chief of mission at the embassy of
Vietnam in Washington.

On its Web site, the Vietnamese Embassy takes more
direct aim at American catfish farmers.

More than 20 years after their failure during the
Vietnam War, they opt to launch a new war, as they
declare, not to fight communism, but to combat
Vietnamese tra and basa catfish.

To their frustration, American catfish farmers complain
that they are being penalized for doing exactly what
the Agriculture Department claims is needed in rural
America. They have created a new agricultural industry
for faltering farmers who turned their rice and soybean
fields into profitable fish farms in one of the poorest
regions of the country.

By giving up crop farming, these catfish farmers also
gave up heavy use of chemical fertilizers and
pesticides, a plus for the environment. And they gave
up farm subsidies - another important goal for
lawmakers looking to get the government out of farming.

Above all, the catfish farmers say, they have preserved
an important part of the sportfishing culture of the
South, as well as a culinary staple.

We've done what we were supposed to do, said Mr.
Lowery. When I stopped plowing and built the fish
ponds, I stopped using the chemical pesticides and
fertilizers that cause the pollution.

In his farm in the northeastern corner of Arkansas, Mr.
Lowery overseas 460 acres (185 hectares) of ponds where
he raises catfish along with large carp, which eat much
of the algae and help keep the water clean. On a recent
morning his crew of six fishermen threw out a large
seine, or net, and harvested 10,000 pounds of carp to
be shipped live to several Chinese restaurants in New
York City the next day.

That's good, tighten the seine, Mr. Lowery shouts to
the fishermen who are clothed in wetsuits on this windy
winter day.

Agriculture inspectors have checked the ponds, and the
fish are checked routinely at the processing plants for
any traces of contaminants.

Mr. Lowery says he knows that his counterparts in
Vietnam are not put through the same rigorous
inspections.

He also said he doubts they are the ones making money

from the Right

2002-01-16 Thread Ian Murray

Off and on over the years, a few capitalists have done
more to de-legitimize capitalism than America's
impotent socialist critics ever did or today's moribund
left could hope to. It is the Republicans' special
responsibility to punish such capitalists.

George Will


http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/54559_will16.shtm
l 





one take on the FSC decision

2002-01-16 Thread Ian Murray

 http://economictimes.indiatimes.com 
WTO vindicated
EDITORIAL
[ THURSDAY, JANUARY 17, 2002  12:09:05 AM ]

The ruling of the WTO's appellate body on tax treatment of
Foreign Sales Corporations in the United States could well
mark a significant milestone in the development of the
World Trade Organisation.

This not just because of the specifics of this case, though
they are undoubtedly interesting in themselves. The
distinction the American tax system makes between sales
abroad and at home has been found by the WTO to hide export
subsidies.

The tax benefits offered to those using domestically
produced inputs have also been found to go against WTO
norms. These findings can cause substantial pain to the US
economy, which is already in the midst of a recession.

If the US changes its tax laws, several major American
companies would be seriously hurt. And if it doesn't,
Europe will have an opportunity to impose trade sanctions
against the US of a magnitude that will be the largest in
the history of the WTO.

It is, of course, possible that Europe may opt to make a
deal with the United States rather than go in for
sanctions. And with India having joined the European Union
in the case against the United States, it is also possible
that India could claim a share in any compromise.

However, the real lessons may well be on the functioning of
the WTO itself. The dominance of a few major economic
powers in WTO negotiations has often been taken to mean
that countries of the South cannot expect to gain from the
emerging WTO regime.

Indeed, the minimalist strategy that Indian governments
have tended to adopt is based on the feeling that there is
little to gain from actively working towards strengthening
and expanding the WTO.

But the Appellate Body's report on Foreign Sales
Corporations reiterates the fact that no country is immune
to adverse rulings from the WTO. The task before countries
like India is to build an effective challenge.

This task is, to a considerable extent, dependent on the
quality of argumentation. But it is also a matter of
gaining prominent and effective allies.

And the FSC case once again demonstrates that India's most
effective allies need not always be from the South. The
sooner we realise that, the better we will be able to
defend our case.




Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: social democracy

2002-01-16 Thread phillp2

Date sent:  Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:06:39 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From:   Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[PEN-L:21439] Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: social democracy
Send reply to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This whole discussion about social democracy and marxist 
economics disturbs me (disgusts me?) on two levels.  First, on the 
practical level, if it weren't for SD I would never have had the chance 
to arrive above the level of the working class.  My grand parents 
were miners, my parents were able to become school teachers, 
and I and my wife could become professionals --all on the basis of 
social democratic party politics. ( My grandparents and parents 
were both active in labour/social democratic politcal parties 
politics.)  so the kind of sh.. that we get from the rigid marxists is 
not something I have much respect for.  My grandparents and 
parents were deeply involved with the Winnipeg General Strike and 
the basic strikes and social strugles for human, racial and political 
rights during the 1930s through the 1960s so this kind of academic 
shit I don't want to hear about.

I have done research in Sweden, Britain, Yugoslavia, Australia, and 
eastern Europe (and published in acceptable academic (including 
Marxist economic journals such as Monthly Review and Canadian 
Dimension.) The level of discussion of soci al democratic 
economics on this list is appalling.  I would not accept it as 
acceptable at a second year  university level.  If we are so ignorant 
of social democratic theory and practice we would be better off not 
to advertise the fact.  The same should be said of institutional 
theory from Berles and Meanes, Galbraith, Darity and all the other 
institutionalists.

Pen-L should not parade its ignorance of alternative economic 
paradigms.

Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba
 Michael Perelman wrote:
 
 Another Swedish question.  Doesn't Sweden have one of the most
 concentrated industrial structures in the world?
 
 Yup, think it does. The Wallenberg family's Investor trust controls 
 some enormous portion of Swedish industry. Such structures are good 
 for social democracy; dispersed stockowner structures like the U.S.'s 
 are its enemy.
 
 Doug
 




Smithies/Schumpter

2002-01-16 Thread Michael Perelman

The American Economy in the Thirties (in The American Economy in the
Interwar Period) Arthur Smithies The American Economic Review, Vol. 36,
No. 2, Papers and Proceedings of the Fifty-eighth Annual Meeting of the
American Economic Association. (May, 1946), pp. 11-27.

--

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901




canadian concentration

2002-01-16 Thread Michael Perelman

an earlier version of the paper is at
http://eres.bus.umich.edu/docs/dwpname.html

Inherited Wealth, Corporate Control and Economic
 Growth: The Canadian Disease

   RANDALL MORCK
University of Alberta ; Harvard University ;
National Bureau of
Economic Research (NBER)
DAVID A. STANGELAND
  University of Manitoba
 BERNARD YIN YEUNG
   New York University


  November 1998

 NBER Working Paper No. W6814

 Abstract:
 Countries in which billionaire heirs' wealth is
large relative to G.D.P.
 grow more slowly, show signs of more political
rent-seeking, and spend
 less on innovation than do other countries at
similar levels of
 development. In contrast, countries in which
self-made entrepreneur
 billionaire wealth is large relative to G.D.P.
grow more rapidly and show
 fewer signs of rent seeking. We argue that this
is consistent with
 wealthy entrenched families' having objectives
other than creating public
 shareholder value. Also, the control pyramids
through which they are
 entrenched give wealthy families preferential
access to capital and
 enhanced lobbying power. Entrenched families
also have vested interest
 in preserving the value of existing capital. To
investigate these
 arguments, we use firm-level Canadian data.
Heir-controlled Canadian
 firms show low industry-adjusted financial
performance, labor capital
 ratios, and RD spending relative to other
firms the same ages and
 sizes. We argue that concentrated, inherited
corporate control impedes
 growth, and dub this the Canadian disease.'
Further research is needed
 to determine the international incidence of
this condition. Finally,
 heir-controlled Canadian firms' share prices
fell relative to those of
 comparable firms on the news that the
Canada-U.S. free trade
 agreement would be ratified. A key provision of
that treaty is capital
 market openness. Under the treaty,
heir-controlled Canadian firms'
 labor capital ratios rose, while the incidence
of heir-control fell. We
 suggest that openness, especially of capital
markets, may mitigate the ill
 effects of concentrated inherited control. If
so, capital market openness
 matters for reasons not captured by standard
international trade and
 finance models.

--

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901




pen-l archives moving??

2002-01-16 Thread Michael Perelman

The pen-l archives will probably be moved fairly soon.  I will keep you
posted.

--

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901




Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: social democracy

2002-01-16 Thread Rakesh Bhandari

Date sent: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:06:39 -0500
To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From:  Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:   [PEN-L:21439] Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: 
social democracy
Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This whole discussion about social democracy and marxist
economics disturbs me (disgusts me?) on two levels.  First, on the
practical level, if it weren't for SD I would never have had the chance
to arrive above the level of the working class.  My grand parents
were miners, my parents were able to become school teachers,
and I and my wife could become professionals --all on the basis of
social democratic party politics. ( My grandparents and parents
were both active in labour/social democratic politcal parties
politics.)  so the kind of sh.. that we get from the rigid marxists is
not something I have much respect for.  My grandparents and
parents were deeply involved with the Winnipeg General Strike and
the basic strikes and social strugles for human, racial and political
rights during the 1930s through the 1960s so this kind of academic
shit I don't want to hear about.

who has said anything against strikes? the criticism has not been of 
social democratic gains and worker actions; it has been of the 
inability of the capitalist system to be reformed or to allow for the 
maintainence of the hard won fought gains of the past.  by the way, 
Jim Devine has himself agreed to that though I find the theoretical 
reasoning for his conclusion to be inadequate.




I have done research in Sweden, Britain, Yugoslavia, Australia, and
eastern Europe (and published in acceptable academic (including
Marxist economic journals such as Monthly Review and Canadian
Dimension.)

obviously you wrote in a different manner for those publications than 
you write here.



The level of discussion of social democratic
economics on this list is appalling.

the discussion here is not of social democratic economics but the 
root causes of capitalist crises and whether Keynesian demand 
management can solve the underlying problems with the capitalist 
system.

Now yes my sophistication may be appalling to someone who may well 
know more quite a bit more than me. But you seem to have missed what 
the debate is about.


  I would not accept it as
acceptable at a second year  university level.

i have actually received one paper back in my life as not 
satsifactory; it was for a Harvard graduate seminar in which I tried 
to answer the question of why the US had supplied repressive 
technology to various tottering tyrannies.


  If we are so ignorant
of social democratic theory and practice we would be better off not
to advertise the fact.

Professor Phillips, I think you are ignorant of the basic schools in 
Marxist crisis theory. Jim D is trying to develop the 
underconsumption strand into an overinvestment one which makes more 
room for fixed capital investment and credit operations. This is a 
respectable tradition. In it stand Bauer, Lederer, Sweezy and Devine. 
Jim D also wants to add a disproportionality strand. In that strand 
stands Lenin (an argument can be made). I am subscribing (and 
doubtless not adequately defending) the falling rate/mass of profit 
strand. In this tradition stands Grossman, Mattick, Moseley and some 
others I have mentioned.

There are clear political implications to each school of thought.

And as someone who touts himself as an expert, I think you should not 
advertise your obvious ignorance of the most basic questions in 
Marxian economic crisis theory.

Rakesh






Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: social democracy

2002-01-16 Thread Michael Perelman

Rakesh, please stop calling people ignorant and please stop informing the
list about how incorrect Jim D.'s ideas are -- even though he keeps saying
that you are mischaracterizing him.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 06:55:40PM -0800, Rakesh Bhandari wrote:
 Date sent:   Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:06:39 -0500
 To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From:Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [PEN-L:21439] Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: 
 social democracy
 Send reply to:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 This whole discussion about social democracy and marxist
 economics disturbs me (disgusts me?) on two levels.  First, on the
 practical level, if it weren't for SD I would never have had the chance
 to arrive above the level of the working class.  My grand parents
 were miners, my parents were able to become school teachers,
 and I and my wife could become professionals --all on the basis of
 social democratic party politics. ( My grandparents and parents
 were both active in labour/social democratic politcal parties
 politics.)  so the kind of sh.. that we get from the rigid marxists is
 not something I have much respect for.  My grandparents and
 parents were deeply involved with the Winnipeg General Strike and
 the basic strikes and social strugles for human, racial and political
 rights during the 1930s through the 1960s so this kind of academic
 shit I don't want to hear about.
 
 who has said anything against strikes? the criticism has not been of 
 social democratic gains and worker actions; it has been of the 
 inability of the capitalist system to be reformed or to allow for the 
 maintainence of the hard won fought gains of the past.  by the way, 
 Jim Devine has himself agreed to that though I find the theoretical 
 reasoning for his conclusion to be inadequate.
 
 
 
 
 I have done research in Sweden, Britain, Yugoslavia, Australia, and
 eastern Europe (and published in acceptable academic (including
 Marxist economic journals such as Monthly Review and Canadian
 Dimension.)
 
 obviously you wrote in a different manner for those publications than 
 you write here.
 
 
 
 The level of discussion of soci  al democratic
 economics on this list is appalling.
 
 the discussion here is not of social democratic economics but the 
 root causes of capitalist crises and whether Keynesian demand 
 management can solve the underlying problems with the capitalist 
 system.
 
 Now yes my sophistication may be appalling to someone who may well 
 know more quite a bit more than me. But you seem to have missed what 
 the debate is about.
 
 
   I would not accept it as
 acceptable at a second year  university level.
 
 i have actually received one paper back in my life as not 
 satsifactory; it was for a Harvard graduate seminar in which I tried 
 to answer the question of why the US had supplied repressive 
 technology to various tottering tyrannies.
 
 
   If we are so ignorant
 of social democratic theory and practice we would be better off not
 to advertise the fact.
 
 Professor Phillips, I think you are ignorant of the basic schools in 
 Marxist crisis theory. Jim D is trying to develop the 
 underconsumption strand into an overinvestment one which makes more 
 room for fixed capital investment and credit operations. This is a 
 respectable tradition. In it stand Bauer, Lederer, Sweezy and Devine. 
 Jim D also wants to add a disproportionality strand. In that strand 
 stands Lenin (an argument can be made). I am subscribing (and 
 doubtless not adequately defending) the falling rate/mass of profit 
 strand. In this tradition stands Grossman, Mattick, Moseley and some 
 others I have mentioned.
 
 There are clear political implications to each school of thought.
 
 And as someone who touts himself as an expert, I think you should not 
 advertise your obvious ignorance of the most basic questions in 
 Marxian economic crisis theory.
 
 Rakesh
 
 
 

-- 
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: socialdemocracy

2002-01-16 Thread Rakesh Bhandari

Rakesh, please stop calling people ignorant and please stop informing the
list about how incorrect Jim D.'s ideas are -- even though he keeps saying
that you are mischaracterizing him.

Michael, you're joking right! Paul Phillips went bonkers against me. 
He called me ignorant of social democratic economics (though my guess 
is I know galbraith's and darity's work better than he does) and 
expressed moral repulsion against me; i just replied that he was 
ignorant of marxian crisis theory.

As for Jim D, he has--AS I UNDERSTAND HIM--two major pieces of 
evidence against the falling profit theory: (1)profit rates had shown 
no falling trend before investment demand collapsed (2)the 
explanation for FROP is a rising OCC the proxy for which also has 
shown no upward trend.

I responded
(1)there is now evidence (anecdotal yes) that books had been cooked, 
exaggerating the profit trend going into this recession. I think for 
example it is certain that investment demand for software companies 
was not as strong as reported profits indicated, and we have this 
mess of offbook accounts as Gretchen Morgenson (sp?) has been 
reporting in the NYT.
(2)whether the existing capital was being valorized, *new* 
investments were not proving profitable, leading firms to instead buy 
back their own stock  as  inventories were thus building up in dept 
I; this inventory build up then led to steep price competition and 
steep profit rate declines, e.g., Intel vs. AMD.
(3)the recession insofar as it is ending is not ending due to 
stronger prices or consumption (though these can result from a pick 
up in investment activity) but the restoration of profitability in 
production due (for example) to the cheapening of constant capital.

Now when Fred finds the time he will give another and doubtless more 
empirically rich answer to Jim D's important challenges.

I have given no answer to Jim D's point 2 yet, in part because I am 
trying to understand whether the proxy is adequate.

RB




Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: social democracy

2002-01-16 Thread Michael Perelman

As everybody else on the list know, I am not joking.  Why is it Jim,
Carrol, and, you add, Paul get into arguments with you?  I think that
abrasiveness detracts from the exchanges.  Give us your information, but
spare us your disputatious approach.

Thanks.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 07:28:04PM -0800, Rakesh Bhandari wrote:
 Rakesh, please stop calling people ignorant and please stop informing the
 list about how incorrect Jim D.'s ideas are -- even though he keeps saying
 that you are mischaracterizing him.
 
 Michael, you're joking right! Paul Phillips went bonkers against me. 
 He called me ignorant of social democratic economics (though my guess 
 is I know galbraith's and darity's work better than he does) and 
 expressed moral repulsion against me; i just replied that he was 
 ignorant of marxian crisis theory.
 
 As for Jim D, he has--AS I UNDERSTAND HIM--two major pieces of 
 evidence against the falling profit theory: (1)profit rates had shown 
 no falling trend before investment demand collapsed (2)the 
 explanation for FROP is a rising OCC the proxy for which also has 
 shown no upward trend.
 
 I responded
 (1)there is now evidence (anecdotal yes) that books had been cooked, 
 exaggerating the profit trend going into this recession. I think for 
 example it is certain that investment demand for software companies 
 was not as strong as reported profits indicated, and we have this 
 mess of offbook accounts as Gretchen Morgenson (sp?) has been 
 reporting in the NYT.
 (2)whether the existing capital was being valorized, *new* 
 investments were not proving profitable, leading firms to instead buy 
 back their own stock  as  inventories were thus building up in dept 
 I; this inventory build up then led to steep price competition and 
 steep profit rate declines, e.g., Intel vs. AMD.
 (3)the recession insofar as it is ending is not ending due to 
 stronger prices or consumption (though these can result from a pick 
 up in investment activity) but the restoration of profitability in 
 production due (for example) to the cheapening of constant capital.
 
 Now when Fred finds the time he will give another and doubtless more 
 empirically rich answer to Jim D's important challenges.
 
 I have given no answer to Jim D's point 2 yet, in part because I am 
 trying to understand whether the proxy is adequate.
 
 RB
 

-- 
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Re: Re: Sweden

2002-01-16 Thread Michael Perelman

Doug, Schumpeter's creative destruction does not occur in the context of
weak demand.  It is a theory of investment-led aggregate demand, followed
by an overshooting, and then a crash.  Mellon's scheme might work, but it
sure took a long time for the economy to get going.  Without World War II,
how much longer.

Prior to Keynes, there was a contingent of US economists who wrote about
underconsumption and secular stagnation.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 12:28:38PM -0500, Doug Henwood wrote:
 
 Wouldn't many bourgeois economists and executives agree? Liquidate, 
 said Mellon; creative destruction, said Schumpeter; Enron's just the 
 say things work, said Paul O'Neill just the other day. What's 
 specifically Marxist about the notion? It's the Keynesians who are 
 the odd ones out.
 
 Doug
 

-- 
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: social democracy

2002-01-16 Thread Ian Murray


- Original Message -
From: Rakesh Bhandari [EMAIL PROTECTED]


No thanks, Kick me off the list anytime you want. I shall
continue to
respond in the style that I respond. I am not here to share
information as if I am an information processing machine
but to
discuss and debate and learn. I of course have my own
explanation for
why Marxists such as Carrol, Jim D,  and Paul Phillips get
into
arguments with me and themselves resort freely to ad
hominem
arguments. At any rate, I certainly can't be accused of
laying into
Phillips first! And the whole idea that debates among
Marxists should
not be disputatious is just--well--so not like Marx
himself.
Rakesh

===
Disputing and discussing ideas and strategies is one thing
but you *still* aren't winning friends and influencing
people.

Ian




Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re:social democracy

2002-01-16 Thread Rakesh Bhandari

As everybody else on the list know, I am not joking.  Why is it Jim,
Carrol, and, you add, Paul get into arguments with you?  I think that
abrasiveness detracts from the exchanges.  Give us your information, but
spare us your disputatious approach.

Thanks.

No thanks, Kick me off the list anytime you want. I shall continue to 
respond in the style that I respond. I am not here to share 
information as if I am an information processing machine but to 
discuss and debate and learn. I of course have my own explanation for 
why Marxists such as Carrol, Jim D,  and Paul Phillips get into 
arguments with me and themselves resort freely to ad hominem 
arguments. At any rate, I certainly can't be accused of laying into 
Phillips first! And the whole idea that debates among Marxists should 
not be disputatious is just--well--so not like Marx himself.
Rakesh




RE: Re: combating misrepresentation

2002-01-16 Thread michael pugliese


  Oy vey, fellow cmrdes!
  William J. Blake mentioned. Married to Christina Stead, the
novelist. http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=+Christina+Stead+William+J.+Blake+
Michael Pugliese

--- Original Message ---
From: Rakesh Bhandari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 1/16/02 3:46:55 PM


now, now, Jim, who's becoming unhinged?

Rakesh Bhandari wrote:... the question is how are crises
overcome? jim's
theory leads to one conclusion--raising consumption and/or
prices should
work to restore a crisis of overaccumulation as jim d defines
it ...

This is a misrepresentation of my viewpoint.


at least it was not said behind your back; moreover, it is the
same 
idea that Fred got from your argument.


  It would be like saying that
Fred Moseley advocates higher unemployment and wage cuts as
a way of solving
the current crisis. Both assertions are wrong.

Situation is not parallel at all. You say that increased consumption

would stabilize capitalism at least in the short term. Marxian
theory 
says that this is false but Marxian theory also says that accepting

wage cuts will not stabilize capitalism in the long run anyway--as

you rightly said massive devaluation and destruction of capital
is 
also needed; so therefore instead of attempting to help capitalists

solve their problem of profitability at the workers' expense,
workers 
should protect themselves and in organizing to do so should
prepare 
themselves to overthrow this mode of production that visits

oppressions and barbarity on humanity.



Rather, as I said, I believe that crisis tendencies are inherent
in
capitalism, so that to abolish them it is necessary to replace
it with
another mode of production (though that mode may have its own
crises, as the
old USSR did).

It does not matter whether we phrase monger about the contradictions

of capitalism; it matters how those contradictions are explained
in 
systematic theory. Grossman's presentation remains the key event
in 
the history of Marxian economic thought, but he has been developed
in 
fruitful ways by, say, Carchedi--who's another of one those
really 
big name thinkers whom I worship.



In the case of over-accumulation relative to consumer demand
(one topic of
my 1994 RESEARCH IN POLITICAL ECONOMY article and the specific
form of my
crisis theory being criticized by Bhandari), raising consumption
does help
deal with the immediate problem, but that is an abstract and
superficial
solution.

well according to marxian theory it's no solution at all to
the 
problem of crisis, and it is not a solution either.


It's the kind of thing that makes sense only within the halls
of
academe or some other equally isolated location.

you're going to have make a clear point to ensure that it's
not misrepresented.





That is, it isn't a solution _at all_,

so what does in fact deal with the immediate problem is not
a 
solution at all. it seems to me that you're playing with words.


  since in the real world of today's
capitalism you can't raise consumption without changing the
concrete way in
which capitalism operates, i.e., what I've been calling the
regime.

yes this is Marx's critique of Mill. But I also doubt that changing

the regime--that is installing a social democratic one--would
heal 
capitalism of its crises.


(Similarly, you can't simply raise prices -- to avoid a Fisherian
debt
deflation -- without changing the regime.) Specifically, that
means a very
difficult transition from a weak labor regime to a strong
labor one.

but that regime shift--which would leave the relations of production

in tact--would not remove the cause of crises.




By the names I give the regimes, it should be very clear --
except to those
who refuse to understand -- that the transition would involve
_massive class
struggles_. I said this before, but maybe this time it will
sink in...

you are advocating class struggles to better the distribution
of 
income, not to abolish the commodity-, money-, capital- and

wage-forms themselves which are the root causes of the crisis.


Frankly, given the globalized nature of capitalism these days,
it is very
hard to imagine that a transition to a strong labor era would
arrive in
the near future (i.e., during the next few decades).

but this is a matter of hypothetical reasoning; even if there
were 
such a shift, the problem would not be solved. That's the Marxian

argument.



Even with this kind of transition, there would be crises. But
-- and this is
a major point of my theory -- the form of these crises would
be different
from that of a weak labor era.

so you seem to be saying--and I must guess because you are hardly

clear here at all--there could be crises if your strong labor
regime 
were not coupled with some kind of planning; that is, you are
saying 
the anarchy of production would still result in departures from

equilibrium growth.

But then a strong labor/high consumption regime with state guidance

of investments would only solve underconsumption and 

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2002-01-16 Thread Michael Perelman

Debating and learning are at the core of what we are trying to do.
Personal attacks get in the way.

 
 No thanks, Kick me off the list anytime you want. I shall continue to 
 respond in the style that I respond. I am not here to share 
 information as if I am an information processing machine but to 
 discuss and debate and learn. I of course have my own explanation for 
 why Marxists such as Carrol, Jim D,  and Paul Phillips get into 
 arguments with me and themselves resort freely to ad hominem 
 arguments. At any rate, I certainly can't be accused of laying into 
 Phillips first! And the whole idea that debates among Marxists should 
 not be disputatious is just--well--so not like Marx himself.
 Rakesh
 

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Economics Department
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Tariq Ali on Saudi Arabia

2002-01-16 Thread Michael Pugliese

 http://www.indexonline.org/news/401_20011018_ali.shtml




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2002-01-16 Thread Rakesh Bhandari

Debating and learning are at the core of what we are trying to do.
Personal attacks get in the way.

As I said, Phillips laid into me first. So, Michael, you have to ask 
yourself why you said something to me. I said nothing to him. I don't 
even know who he is.
rb




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2002-01-16 Thread Rakesh Bhandari
Title: Re: [PEN-L:21509] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
Re:



===
Disputing and discussing ideas and strategies is one thing
but you *still* aren't winning friends and influencing
people.

ian, isn't it a bit pretentious for you to think that you know
what every-one who reads this list is thinking? and that you are
implicitly suggesting that i should approach discussion and debate in
the mendacious way that dale carnegie recommends suggests a deep
commitment to the values of a salesman.

How to Win Friends  Influence
People

Dale Carnegie


One of the best-selling books of all time,
for over 60 years the rock-solid, time-tested advice in this program
has carried thousands of people up the ladder of success in their
business and personal lives. Learn the six ways to make people like
you, the twelve ways to win people to your way of thinking, etc.
There is room at the top, when you know


How radical indeed are these anti globalization activists!

rb



delicate times for the left

2002-01-16 Thread Ian Murray

Did the left lose the war?

Kabul fell in five weeks. The Islamic world has not
erupted. So did the left get it all wrong - and does it
matter?

Andy Beckett
Thursday January 17, 2002
The Guardian

Guy Taylor is a political activist of great height and
confidence. He used to be an organiser for the Socialist
Workers Party. Nowadays he is a prominent member of
Globalise Resistance, a loose network of British
anti-capitalists. Since it was set up last February, he has
loomed at demonstrations outside arms fairs and meetings of
international leaders with his appropriately cropped hair
and small, intense glasses. He talks in a clear, level
voice, loud and relentless as a stand-up comedian, always
optimistic, never stuck for an argument, throwing in the
odd joke but without a flicker of self-doubt. In
anti-capitalist circles, Taylor and his organisation have
become so ubiquitous some rival groups call them
Monopolise Resistance.

Since September 11, however, Taylor has felt the need to
adjust his political behaviour in a small way. A few months
before the attacks on America, while taking part in the
protests against last summer's European Union summit in
Gothenburg, he bought a new T-shirt. It said terrorist
across the front. He says he wasn't trying to look
menacing - political violence in his view achieves very
little - but he thought the T-shirt was a neat statement
against the official tendency, then just becoming apparent,
to brand all anti-globalisation activists as potential
bombers and gunmen. He wore it on and off for the rest of
the summer. Then, in mid-September, it stopped feeling so
clever.

He can't quite explain why. It just seemed... He pauses.
Inappropriate? He smiles a little. You don't want to...
pick arguments... offend people unnecessarily. His office
is in Mile End, after all, not Hampstead. After several
more pauses, enough time for him, usually, to summarise the
entire workings of contemporary capitalism, he finally
arrives at a position. I just thought I should be a bit
more careful.

These are delicate times for the left, in Britain and
elsewhere. First, two of its traditional enemies, the
Pentagon and New York's financial district, were bloodily
assaulted. Then, the leaders of this revolt against
American dominance of the world were revealed, almost
certainly, to be religious radicals of considerable
ideological ambiguousness. Then the traditional instruments
of American oppression in the eyes of its critics - bombing
and the use of dubious allies - were deployed in response,
with apparent success. And a solid majority of the British
public approved, as did the great majority of
left-of-centre politicians in Britain and abroad.

Immediately before September 11, the outlook had seemed
reasonably favourable for the left. Around the world, the
long business boom of the past decade seemed to be
collapsing under the weight of its own contradictions.

In America, George Bush's government of tycoons and missile
enthusiasts had just lost its senate majority and its
momentum. In Britain, Tony Blair's attempt to convert the
Labour party and the public to free-market thinking
appeared to be struggling. Then there were the failings of
Railtrack and the Private Finance Initiative, the swelling
profile of anti-corporate protests since Seattle, the
polemics against international trade and sweatshops selling
well in high street book shops, the apparent revival of
militancy in some unions - Anglo-Saxon capitalism was in a
state, says Tariq Ali, the veteran leftwinger and critic
of America. Bush was virtually on the floor. Now they've
been able to cover it up. From every progressive point of
view, September 11 has been a disaster.

In November, an editorial in the British leftwing magazine
Red Pepper spoke of a widespread feeling of powerlessness,
even paralysis. The daily news makes you want to retreat
back under the sheets. In a new book rushed out since the
autumn's events, simply titled 9-11, Noam Chomsky, the
dissident American academic who is probably the biggest
influence on modern anti-capitalists, writes gloomily: It
is certainly a setback... Terrorist atrocities are a gift
to the harshest and most repressive elements on all sides,
and are sure to be exploited to accelerate the agenda of
militarisation, regimentation, reversal of social
democratic programmes, transfer of wealth to narrow
sectors, and undermining democracy. Taylor puts it more
plainly: Standing protesting outside Gap is a bloody
strange thing to do when civilians are being killed in
Afghanistan.

Other people have been less polite. Within days of the
deaths in New York and Washington, anyone, it seemed, who
had ever been publicly critical of America or globalisation
suddenly found themselves accused of complicity with Osama
bin Laden - and worse. In the British press alone, they
have been described as defeatist and unpatriotic,
nihilist and masochistic, and both Stalinist and
fascist; as a Prada-Meinhof gang, the handmaidens 

Re: social democracy

2002-01-16 Thread Michael Perelman

I am sorry if i missed Paul's attack.  I lost about a week of e-mail when
our system crashed at CSU.  I only looked at some posts on the archives.

Rakesh Bhandari wrote:

 .

 As I said, Phillips laid into me first. So, Michael, you have to ask
 yourself why you said something to me. I said nothing to him. I don't
 even know who he is.
 rb

--

Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
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Re: : Re: social democracy

2002-01-16 Thread Ian Murray
Title: Re: [PEN-L:21509] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:





  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Rakesh 
  Bhandari 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 8:36 
  PM
  Subject: [PEN-L:21512] Re: Re: Re: Re: 
  Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: social democracy
  
  ===Disputing and discussing 
ideas and strategies is one thingbut you *still* aren't winning friends 
and influencing
  people.
  
  ian, isn't it a bit pretentious for you to think that you know what 
  every-one who reads this list is thinking? and that you are implicitly 
  suggesting that i should approach discussion and debate in the mendacious way 
  that dale carnegie recommends suggests a deep commitment to the values of a 
  salesman.
  
  How to Win Friends  Influence 
  People
  
  Dale Carnegie 
  
  
  One of the best-selling books of all time, for over 
  60 years the rock-solid, time-tested advice in this program has carried 
  thousands of people up the ladder of success in their business and personal 
  lives. Learn the six ways to make people like you, the twelve ways to win 
  people to your way of thinking, etc. There is room at the top, when you 
  know
  
  
  How radical indeed are these anti globalization activists!
  
  rb
  
  
  When did you lose your sense of humor 
  Rakesh?
  
  What's anti-globalization?
  
  Ian


Tue., Jan. 22: Randall Robinson, The Debt'

2002-01-16 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi

The topic of the next President and Provost's Diversity Lecture 
Series at the Ohio State University is The Debt: What America Owes 
Blacks, featuring Randall Robinson, president of TransAfrica and the 
TransAfrica Forum.  Robinson is the author of _The Debt_, a social 
and political text about the crime of slavery and its impact on 
persons of African descent.  In it, he calls for the U.S. government 
and corporations to pay African Americans reparations for the damages 
caused by slavery and oppression.  He will speak at 9 a.m. on 
Tuesday, January 22 in the Ohio Union Ballrooms on the first floor of 
the Ohio Union (here's the floor plan of the Ohio Union: 
http://www.ohiounion.com/meeting.html).  The Ohio Union is located 
at 1739 North High St., at the corner of 12th Ave. and High St. in 
Columbus, OH.

Cf.  Randall Robinson on the Net: 
http://past.thenation.com/issue/000313/0313robinson.shtml; 
http://www.afrst.uiuc.edu/randallrobinson.html; and 
http://www.webactive.com/pacifica/demnow/dn20010830.html.

TransAfrica Forum: http://www.transafricaforum.org/
-- 
Yoshie

* Calendar of Events in Columbus: 
http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/calendar.html
* Anti-War Activist Resources: http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/activist.html
* Student International Forum: http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/
* Committee for Justice in Palestine: http://www.osu.edu/students/CJP/