Re: [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill

[William Zucca via Phono-L]

Thanks again. Sure glad I found our emails about it. It's a sweet little
machine.
Bill

On Oct 19, 2017 11:04 AM, "John Selph via Phono-L" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Yes, I sent you the tracing.  Hope it is of use.  As far as $, no
> worries.  Just paying it forward for the help I’ve received from this forum.
>
> John
>
>
>
> *From:* Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] *On Behalf Of *William
> Zucca via Phono-L
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 19, 2017 4:56 AM
> *To:* Antique Phonograph List
> *Cc:* William Zucca
> *Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill
>
>
>
> John: Did send me the grill tracing? I received one but it was not clear
> who sent it. If so, thank you very much for your effort. Can I send you
> postage/supply money?
>
>
>
> BillZ
>
>
>
> On Jun 29, 2017 3:22 PM, "John Selph via Phono-L" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> USPS finally delivered my order for boxes.  Put the drawing in the mail
> today.  Priority Mail with tracking number:  9114 9014 9645 1122 8222 36
>
> Sorry to take so long.
>
> John
>
>
>
> *From:* Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] *On Behalf Of *William
> Zucca via Phono-L
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 11, 2017 5:19 PM
> *To:* Antique Phonograph List
> *Cc:* William Zucca
> *Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill
>
>
>
> William Zucca
> P.O. box 266
> Rochester, Vermont 05767
>
> Thank you John
>
> On Apr 11, 2017 5:16 PM, "John Selph via Phono-L" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> wrote:
>
> Sorry to take so long to respond.  Have been trying to get the garage
> cleaned up a bit so I can work on things.  Unless its an emergency, I
> should be able to get the tracing done early next week and I’ll mail it to
> you.  Just give me your mailing address.
>
> John
>
>
>
> *From:* Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] *On Behalf Of *William
> Zucca via Phono-L
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 6, 2017 11:38 AM
> *To:* Antique Phonograph List
> *Cc:* William Zucca
> *Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill
>
>
>
> John: That is a very kind offer.  Yes, I would like to have a tracing. Let
>  me know the details.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> BillZ
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 11:31 AM, John Selph via Phono-L <
> phono-l@oldcrank.org> wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I have a 601 that I am working on and although I don’t have a grill to
> sell, I am currently getting ready to recover mine, so it would not be
> difficult for me to trace out a pattern on heavy paper for you.
>
> John
>
>
>
> *From:* Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] *On Behalf Of *William
> Zucca via Phono-L
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:45 PM
> *To:* Antique Phonograph List
> *Cc:* William Zucca
> *Subject:* [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill
>
>
>
> Hello All: I need a grill for my little Columbia 611 VivaTonal phonograph.
> Please write if you have one available.
>
> Regards, BillZ
>
>
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Re: [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill

[William Zucca via Phono-L]

John: Did send me the grill tracing? I received one but it was not clear
who sent it. If so, thank you very much for your effort. Can I send you
postage/supply money?

BillZ

On Jun 29, 2017 3:22 PM, "John Selph via Phono-L" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
wrote:

> Bill,
>
> USPS finally delivered my order for boxes.  Put the drawing in the mail
> today.  Priority Mail with tracking number:  9114 9014 9645 1122 8222 36
>
> Sorry to take so long.
>
> John
>
>
>
> *From:* Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] *On Behalf Of *William
> Zucca via Phono-L
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 11, 2017 5:19 PM
> *To:* Antique Phonograph List
> *Cc:* William Zucca
> *Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill
>
>
>
> William Zucca
> P.O. box 266
> Rochester, Vermont 05767
>
> Thank you John
>
> On Apr 11, 2017 5:16 PM, "John Selph via Phono-L" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> wrote:
>
> Sorry to take so long to respond.  Have been trying to get the garage
> cleaned up a bit so I can work on things.  Unless its an emergency, I
> should be able to get the tracing done early next week and I’ll mail it to
> you.  Just give me your mailing address.
>
> John
>
>
>
> *From:* Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] *On Behalf Of *William
> Zucca via Phono-L
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 6, 2017 11:38 AM
> *To:* Antique Phonograph List
> *Cc:* William Zucca
> *Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill
>
>
>
> John: That is a very kind offer.  Yes, I would like to have a tracing. Let
>  me know the details.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> BillZ
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 11:31 AM, John Selph via Phono-L <
> phono-l@oldcrank.org> wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I have a 601 that I am working on and although I don’t have a grill to
> sell, I am currently getting ready to recover mine, so it would not be
> difficult for me to trace out a pattern on heavy paper for you.
>
> John
>
>
>
> *From:* Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] *On Behalf Of *William
> Zucca via Phono-L
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:45 PM
> *To:* Antique Phonograph List
> *Cc:* William Zucca
> *Subject:* [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill
>
>
>
> Hello All: I need a grill for my little Columbia 611 VivaTonal phonograph.
> Please write if you have one available.
>
> Regards, BillZ
>
>
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Re: [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill

[William Zucca via Phono-L]

John: thank you very much.

Bill

On Jun 29, 2017 3:22 PM, "John Selph via Phono-L" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
wrote:

Bill,

USPS finally delivered my order for boxes.  Put the drawing in the mail
today.  Priority Mail with tracking number:  9114 9014 9645 1122 8222 36

Sorry to take so long.

John



*From:* Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] *On Behalf Of *William
Zucca via Phono-L
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 11, 2017 5:19 PM
*To:* Antique Phonograph List
*Cc:* William Zucca
*Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill



William Zucca
P.O. box 266
Rochester, Vermont 05767

Thank you John

On Apr 11, 2017 5:16 PM, "John Selph via Phono-L" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
wrote:

Sorry to take so long to respond.  Have been trying to get the garage
cleaned up a bit so I can work on things.  Unless its an emergency, I
should be able to get the tracing done early next week and I’ll mail it to
you.  Just give me your mailing address.

John



*From:* Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] *On Behalf Of *William
Zucca via Phono-L
*Sent:* Thursday, April 6, 2017 11:38 AM
*To:* Antique Phonograph List
*Cc:* William Zucca
*Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill



John: That is a very kind offer.  Yes, I would like to have a tracing. Let
 me know the details.



Regards,

BillZ



On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 11:31 AM, John Selph via Phono-L <
phono-l@oldcrank.org> wrote:

Bill,

I have a 601 that I am working on and although I don’t have a grill to
sell, I am currently getting ready to recover mine, so it would not be
difficult for me to trace out a pattern on heavy paper for you.

John



*From:* Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] *On Behalf Of *William
Zucca via Phono-L
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:45 PM
*To:* Antique Phonograph List
*Cc:* William Zucca
*Subject:* [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill



Hello All: I need a grill for my little Columbia 611 VivaTonal phonograph.
Please write if you have one available.

Regards, BillZ


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Re: [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill

[William Zucca via Phono-L]

William Zucca
P.O. box 266
Rochester, Vermont 05767

Thank you John
On Apr 11, 2017 5:16 PM, "John Selph via Phono-L" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
wrote:

> Sorry to take so long to respond.  Have been trying to get the garage
> cleaned up a bit so I can work on things.  Unless its an emergency, I
> should be able to get the tracing done early next week and I’ll mail it to
> you.  Just give me your mailing address.
>
> John
>
>
>
> *From:* Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] *On Behalf Of *William
> Zucca via Phono-L
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 6, 2017 11:38 AM
> *To:* Antique Phonograph List
> *Cc:* William Zucca
> *Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill
>
>
>
> John: That is a very kind offer.  Yes, I would like to have a tracing. Let
>  me know the details.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> BillZ
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 11:31 AM, John Selph via Phono-L <
> phono-l@oldcrank.org> wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I have a 601 that I am working on and although I don’t have a grill to
> sell, I am currently getting ready to recover mine, so it would not be
> difficult for me to trace out a pattern on heavy paper for you.
>
> John
>
>
>
> *From:* Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] *On Behalf Of *William
> Zucca via Phono-L
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:45 PM
> *To:* Antique Phonograph List
> *Cc:* William Zucca
> *Subject:* [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill
>
>
>
> Hello All: I need a grill for my little Columbia 611 VivaTonal phonograph.
> Please write if you have one available.
>
> Regards, BillZ
>
>
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Re: [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill

[William Zucca via Phono-L]

John: That is a very kind offer.  Yes, I would like to have a tracing. Let
 me know the details.

Regards,
BillZ

On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 11:31 AM, John Selph via Phono-L <
phono-l@oldcrank.org> wrote:

> Bill,
>
> I have a 601 that I am working on and although I don’t have a grill to
> sell, I am currently getting ready to recover mine, so it would not be
> difficult for me to trace out a pattern on heavy paper for you.
>
> John
>
>
>
> *From:* Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] *On Behalf Of *William
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:45 PM
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> *Subject:* [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill
>
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> Hello All: I need a grill for my little Columbia 611 VivaTonal phonograph.
> Please write if you have one available.
>
> Regards, BillZ
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Re: [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill

[William Zucca via Phono-L]

Ron: I will ask George sooner or later but am advertising first. I mean
actually a woodworker myself but always like original parts. It's early
days yet so I will be patient.

Regards,
BillZ
On Mar 15, 2017 9:38 AM, "Ron L'Herault via Phono-L" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
wrote:

> Hi Bill,
>
>
>
> I really don't want to part the machine out.  It's a big hassle.  Have you
> talked to George Vollema about the grill or investigated having one made?
> I know there are people out there who do make them but for the life of me
> can't dredge up a name.
>
>
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> *From:* Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] *On Behalf Of *William
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 10:32 PM
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> *Cc:* William Zucca
> *Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill
>
>
>
> Dear Ron: I am afraid that I don't have room for another whole machine.
> Can I talk you out of just the grill for, say $50? I could drive down for
> it this weekend if we make the deal.
>
> Thanks for writing.
> BillZ
>
> On Mar 14, 2017 9:13 PM, "Ron L'Herault via Phono-L" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
> wrote:
>
> I've got an entire functioning 611 with a somewhat rough cabinet you can
> have for $150.  Grill looks fine.  Mechanically it is great.
>
>
>
>
>
> Ron L  in North Attleboro, MA.
>
>
>
> *From:* Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] *On Behalf Of *William
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 8:45 PM
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> *Subject:* [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill
>
>
>
> Hello All: I need a grill for my little Columbia 611 VivaTonal phonograph.
> Please write if you have one available.
>
> Regards, BillZ
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Re: [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill

[William Zucca via Phono-L]

Dear Ron: I am afraid that I don't have room for another whole machine. Can
I talk you out of just the grill for, say $50? I could drive down for it
this weekend if we make the deal.

Thanks for writing.
BillZ
On Mar 14, 2017 9:13 PM, "Ron L'Herault via Phono-L" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
wrote:

> I've got an entire functioning 611 with a somewhat rough cabinet you can
> have for $150.  Grill looks fine.  Mechanically it is great.
>
>
>
>
>
> Ron L  in North Attleboro, MA.
>
>
>
> *From:* Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] *On Behalf Of *William
> Zucca via Phono-L
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 8:45 PM
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> *Cc:* William Zucca
> *Subject:* [Phono-L] Wanted: Columbia 611 grill
>
>
>
> Hello All: I need a grill for my little Columbia 611 VivaTonal phonograph.
> Please write if you have one available.
>
> Regards, BillZ
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Re: [Phono-L] Reproduction Orthophonic Reproducer shells?

[William Zucca via Phono-L]

Dear Ron: I don't think Mr. Sitco will have all the parts you need with him
at the show unless you call him ahead of time to ask for them. He couldn't
possibly take all his available parts to the show and the first time I
walked up to his table and asked for Orthophonic parts, he told me that he
doesn't usually have them at the MME. Better give him a call.

Regards, BillZ

On Oct 3, 2016 5:52 PM, "Ron L'Herault via Phono-L" 
wrote:

> Thanks.  Should be seeing him Sunday at the Mechanical Music Extravaganza!
>
> Ron L
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Ken
> Brekke
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> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 3:16 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Reproduction Orthophonic Reproducer shells?
>
> I believe Ron Sitko sells these parts.
>
>
> On 10/3/2016 10:06 AM, Ron L'Herault via Phono-L wrote:
> > Does anyone sell parts to re-make a disintegrating Orthophonic
> > reproducer, such as the front shell and the threaded ring for the back?
> Price?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
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Re: [Phono-L] Diamond Disc Stylus Rebuild

[William Zucca via Phono-L]

Would someone send me Steve's email address?

BillZ at the following personal address:

rochr...@gmail.com

On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 1:01 PM,  wrote:

> Thankyou all.  Ive reached out by email to Steve.  Thx again.  robert
>
>
> -- Original message--
>
> *From: *Melissa Ricci via Phono-L
>
> *Date: *Thu, Dec 31, 2015 2:25 PM
>
> *To: *Antique Phonograph List;
>
> *Cc: *Melissa Ricci;
>
> *Subject:*Re: [Phono-L] Diamond Disc Stylus Rebuild
>
>
> I would also like to chime in to recommend Steve. He is the only person we
> would send our reproducers and recorders to. He does fantastic work, is a
> joy to work with and is very reasonably priced. He has worked on countless
> reproducers for us and two Edison recorders as well. They all come
> back looking and working like new. You could not find a nicer, more
> talented person to rebuild your reproducer.
>
> Melissa
>
>
>
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> *From:* charles smith via Phono-L > <%3cphon...@oldcrank.org>
> *To:* Antique Phonograph List > <%3cphon...@oldcrank.org>
> *Cc:* charles smith > <%3cc.l.smith5...@sbcglobal.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 31, 2015 5:10 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Diamond Disc Stylus Rebuild
>
> Hi- And I would sincerely add to the comments of John Robles. I have known
> Steve Medved since 2007.He has rebuilt at least four Edison reproducers for
> me. In every rebuild, the reproducer came back cleaner and sounded MUCH
> better than before Steve worked on it. Steve is one of those rare people
> that repairs someone else's items just as good as if it were his. That is
> beyond my opinion, that is a fact.His goal is to have the reproducer look
> and sound it's best.He is my first choice, and I would recommend him to
> anyone.
>  Charlie.
>
>
> On Thursday, December 31, 2015 2:26 PM, John Robles via Phono-L > wrote:
> <%3cphon...@oldcrank.org>
>
>
> Hi!
>
> Steve Medved in Kissimmee, Florida is the number one reproducer rebuilder,
> and his prices are reasonable. I send him a lot of work and always get the
> reproducers back sounding (and in many cases looking) like new.  Send me a
> private email and I will give you his email address.
>
> John Robles
>
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> *Subject:* [Phono-L] Diamond Disc Stylus Rebuild
>
> I have a saphire stylus for a Diamond Disk W19.  I think the saphire is
> worn down becuase it seems to cause a lot of drag when playing a record.
> In anycase its close to 100 years old and Id like to have someone rebuild
> it.
>
> Do you have recommendations where I can send the head for a rebuild and
> saphire replacement?
>
> Thank you for the input.
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[Phono-L] Victor VE-9-40E sidearm

[William Zucca]

Dear Fellow Phono-Listers:



I am restoring a Victor VE-9-40E and have found that the weakest part of
this magnificent machine to be the side arm which holds the electric
pick-up. As you probably know, it is made of an alloy of low-melting point
metals such as zinc, lead, copper, and tin and is commonly known as “white
metal,” “die cast zinc,” and especially “POT METAL.”  As a result, this
piece is most often found to be misshapen, swollen, and/or cracked.  I have
searched, without positive result, for a replacement for the side arm on my
VE-9-40E.



But, there is a solution to this problem that will solve it
once-and-for-all and is the result of a new technology that has the
potential of making spare parts available for historic devices where none
now exists.  The process is called “rapid prototyping” or “3-D printing.”  The
process begins with a non-destructive scan of an original part (or computer
drawing of the part).  Next, a duplicate of the part is created by a
3-printer in plastic (or newer metalized plastic composite) which is used
as a prototype.  The prototype is checked for accuracy and similarity to
the original part and the drawing created from the scan of the original
part is tweaked to fix any inaccuracies found in the duplicate part.  Finally,
a fully-functional duplicate part is made from the updated drawing file.  The
resulting part may be painted or plated and then would need to have an
original electric reproducer socket installed from one of the many broken
side arms available.



This long explanation is the introduction to a request that I am making
here on the ANTIQUE PHONOGRAPH LIST.  I would like to borrow a good,
original side arm from a Victor VE-9-40E to use as a pattern for the
process described above.  As I have already mentioned, it is a
non-destructive process and I can guarantee the safety of your precious
part during the effort.



If you have such a side-arm that might be available for this purpose,
please contact me at rochr...@gmail.com.



Best Regards,

William Zucca

Rochester, Vermont



NOTES:

--The side arm used on the Victor Borgia I and II are NOT the same as the
one used on the VE-9-40E and are not suitable for this project.



--I have photos of the VE-9-40E tone arm and side arms available upon
request.
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Re: [Phono-L] Victor VE-9-40E sidearm

[William Zucca]

Mark: I have not calculated a cost estimate but have only begun to put the
various pieces the process together.  I will keep you informed and hope you
will do the same for me.

Regards,
BillZ


On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Mark markely...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Bill,

 Glad you are still focused on fixing that 9-40! Additive manufacturing,
 the generic term for 3D printing might be the answer. I have one to use as
 a pattern but think I will try the conventional investment cast process in
 bronze of brass rather than the resin 3D printed part. Investment casting
 maintains tight tolerances and requires less final finishing than most
 other casting methods plus you will end up with a metal part more similar
 to the original. I had some 10-50 shift levers made this way and the
 results were very good. I'll let you know what the estimated cost would be.
 The last time I pursued the project, in 2002, I was thinking final
 finishing and gold plating but the cost was high, this time I'll ask for a
 less finished and un plated. If it still looks out of range I'll send you
 the sample. What kind of prices do you expect?

 Mark

 Sent from my iPad

 On Apr 18, 2014, at 6:00 PM, William Zucca rochr...@gmail.com wrote:

  Dear Fellow Phono-Listers:
 
 
 
  I am restoring a Victor VE-9-40E and have found that the weakest part of
  this magnificent machine to be the side arm which holds the electric
  pick-up. As you probably know, it is made of an alloy of low-melting
 point
  metals such as zinc, lead, copper, and tin and is commonly known as
 “white
  metal,” “die cast zinc,” and especially “POT METAL.”  As a result, this
  piece is most often found to be misshapen, swollen, and/or cracked.  I
 have
  searched, without positive result, for a replacement for the side arm on
 my
  VE-9-40E.
 
 
 
  But, there is a solution to this problem that will solve it
  once-and-for-all and is the result of a new technology that has the
  potential of making spare parts available for historic devices where none
  now exists.  The process is called “rapid prototyping” or “3-D
 printing.”  The
  process begins with a non-destructive scan of an original part (or
 computer
  drawing of the part).  Next, a duplicate of the part is created by a
  3-printer in plastic (or newer metalized plastic composite) which is used
  as a prototype.  The prototype is checked for accuracy and similarity to
  the original part and the drawing created from the scan of the original
  part is tweaked to fix any inaccuracies found in the duplicate part.
  Finally,
  a fully-functional duplicate part is made from the updated drawing file.
  The
  resulting part may be painted or plated and then would need to have an
  original electric reproducer socket installed from one of the many broken
  side arms available.
 
 
 
  This long explanation is the introduction to a request that I am making
  here on the ANTIQUE PHONOGRAPH LIST.  I would like to borrow a good,
  original side arm from a Victor VE-9-40E to use as a pattern for the
  process described above.  As I have already mentioned, it is a
  non-destructive process and I can guarantee the safety of your precious
  part during the effort.
 
 
 
  If you have such a side-arm that might be available for this purpose,
  please contact me at rochr...@gmail.com.
 
 
 
  Best Regards,
 
  William Zucca
 
  Rochester, Vermont
 
 
 
  NOTES:
 
  --The side arm used on the Victor Borgia I and II are NOT the same as the
  one used on the VE-9-40E and are not suitable for this project.
 
 
 
  --I have photos of the VE-9-40E tone arm and side arms available upon
  request.
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Re: [Phono-L] Orthophonic vs. Electric?

[William Zucca]

Richard: I think so.  I have owned three Credenzas as well as a 10-50 and
9-40 and all needed a little horn resealing.  I don't remember where I read
this tip but since it works well, I will pass it along.  One can put a
light bulb inside and then outside of a Credenza horn while in a dark room
and look for light leaks through the horn.  I then use a black silicone
putty to seal any light leaks and for good measure, do a little seam
sealing as well.  New thick felt between the end of cast iron horn neck and
the bottom of the tone arm base is a good idea too.  Grease below and above
the new felt seals well.  Probably modern rubber could be cut into a donut
too but I have not tried that.  With a good reproducer rebuild, the air
path will be well sealed.

I have a stock of original Tungs-tone needles and use them exclusively (in
several volume ratings) but perhaps someone else on the list has another
alternative to this that plays well and gives good service.

Regards, BillZ


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Richard richard_ru...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, Bill.  It sounds like there's definitely a go big or go home
 school when it comes to orthophonics.  Since I probably only have room for
 one machine, I suspect many out there would advise me to hold out for a
 Credenza.  Do you think most 80+ year-old orthophonic horns need to be
 re-sealed?

  Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2014 21:38:41 -0400
  From: rochr...@gmail.com
  To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Orthophonic vs. Electric?
 
  For years I poo-pooed listening to electric records on an Orthophonic
  machine, always playing them instead on a modern turntable with a
 collector
  noise reduction unit.  But I discovered that I had never heard a properly
  restored Orthophonic machine playing a Victor Orthophonic record.  By
  properly restored I mean a Credenza that has had the horn resealed, the
  felt gasket between horn neck and tone arm replaced and sealed, and which
  used a good rebuilt Orthophonic reproducer.  This type of machine plays
  magnificently!  The warmth and depth of tone is wonderful.  While dance
  records are great played on a restored Credenza, some of the 12 Victor
  Gems records offer the best way to hear the machine because you can
  hear wonderful voices, a full orchestra as well as great 1920s tunes.
  The
  same record played on a modern system does not have the same quality.
  Perhaps if I were an engineer or musician I could express more clearly
 what
  the difference is.  But I have been converted.
 
  Since that first experience I have bought and restored my own Credenza
 and
  then later a 10-50 and a 9-40.  I must say that in the 9-40, one has the
  chance of hearing an Orthophonic record played with both an Orthophonic
  reproducer and an early electric reproducer/amp, as the machine has one
 of
  each.  While they both play through the biggest Orthophonic horn
 available
  from Victor, the Orthophonic reproducer sounds the best.  All things
 being
  equal in this machine (restored acoustical as well as electric
 components),
  the early electric reproducer, amp, and WE designed driver doesn't match
  (IMHO) the tonal quality of the Orthophonic reproducer. These machines
 were
  the apex of acoustical playback.  I continue to be amazed at how much air
  these machines can move.
 
  I must admit that I play the bulk of my collection on a modern turntable
  but I have a much smaller collection of 1920s electrically-recorded
 records
  that I play only on my big Orthophonic and/or early electric machines.
  If
  you have the room, buy a Cradenza and restore it.  They haven't been as
  cheap as they are now in years.
 
  Regards,
  Bill Zucca
 
 
  On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 7:48 PM, George Glastris glast...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
   Well, I for one am a HUGE fan of the 8-9.  The sound is excellent, the
   machine has a great look to it (and beautifully blends in with my Arts
 
   Crafts furniture), and it's not so big as to take over the room.  They
   don't have that 1920s walnut dining room look to them which looks out
 of
   place anywhere besides a 1920s movie set.  I see them offered for
 around
   $800-1,500 at Union, but usually quite a bit less at auction.
  
   Also, they have a metal horn like the English Re-Entrant models which
 some
   believe gives a better sound.
  
   Besides, Victor told it's dealers that they would appeal to Americans
 of
   foreign extraction and owners of lunch rooms and confectioner shops
 so I
   guess my Grandfather George Dimpapas and my Grandfather Apostolos
 Glastris
   would have had them in their respective diners and candy shops in the
 1920s.
  
   -Original Message- From: Richard
   Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 6:03 PM
   To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
   Subject: [Phono-L] Orthophonic vs. Electric?
  
  
   I've never owned an orthophonic machine, but have recently been offered
   the chance to buy one (see other post), and I'm wondering if I should.
 My
   main 

Re: [Phono-L] Orthophonic vs. Electric?

[William Zucca]

For years I poo-pooed listening to electric records on an Orthophonic
machine, always playing them instead on a modern turntable with a collector
noise reduction unit.  But I discovered that I had never heard a properly
restored Orthophonic machine playing a Victor Orthophonic record.  By
properly restored I mean a Credenza that has had the horn resealed, the
felt gasket between horn neck and tone arm replaced and sealed, and which
used a good rebuilt Orthophonic reproducer.  This type of machine plays
magnificently!  The warmth and depth of tone is wonderful.  While dance
records are great played on a restored Credenza, some of the 12 Victor
Gems records offer the best way to hear the machine because you can
hear wonderful voices, a full orchestra as well as great 1920s tunes.  The
same record played on a modern system does not have the same quality.
Perhaps if I were an engineer or musician I could express more clearly what
the difference is.  But I have been converted.

Since that first experience I have bought and restored my own Credenza and
then later a 10-50 and a 9-40.  I must say that in the 9-40, one has the
chance of hearing an Orthophonic record played with both an Orthophonic
reproducer and an early electric reproducer/amp, as the machine has one of
each.  While they both play through the biggest Orthophonic horn available
from Victor, the Orthophonic reproducer sounds the best.  All things being
equal in this machine (restored acoustical as well as electric components),
the early electric reproducer, amp, and WE designed driver doesn't match
(IMHO) the tonal quality of the Orthophonic reproducer. These machines were
the apex of acoustical playback.  I continue to be amazed at how much air
these machines can move.

I must admit that I play the bulk of my collection on a modern turntable
but I have a much smaller collection of 1920s electrically-recorded records
that I play only on my big Orthophonic and/or early electric machines.  If
you have the room, buy a Cradenza and restore it.  They haven't been as
cheap as they are now in years.

Regards,
Bill Zucca


On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 7:48 PM, George Glastris glast...@comcast.netwrote:

 Well, I for one am a HUGE fan of the 8-9.  The sound is excellent, the
 machine has a great look to it (and beautifully blends in with my Arts 
 Crafts furniture), and it's not so big as to take over the room.  They
 don't have that 1920s walnut dining room look to them which looks out of
 place anywhere besides a 1920s movie set.  I see them offered for around
 $800-1,500 at Union, but usually quite a bit less at auction.

 Also, they have a metal horn like the English Re-Entrant models which some
 believe gives a better sound.

 Besides, Victor told it's dealers that they would appeal to Americans of
 foreign extraction and owners of lunch rooms and confectioner shops so I
 guess my Grandfather George Dimpapas and my Grandfather Apostolos Glastris
 would have had them in their respective diners and candy shops in the 1920s.

 -Original Message- From: Richard
 Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 6:03 PM
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: [Phono-L] Orthophonic vs. Electric?


 I've never owned an orthophonic machine, but have recently been offered
 the chance to buy one (see other post), and I'm wondering if I should. My
 main concern has been one of sound quality; I've always suspected that
 acoustic records sound better on older, acoustic machines, and
 orthophonic/electric records sound best on electric machines. But this
 opportunity has me wondering: How do orthophonic/electric records sound
 when played on an orthophonic machine sound compared to when they're played
 on an electric machine (say, from the late 1920's or early 1930's)? All
 opinions are welcome, but what I'm really looking for is a comparison --
 not just better or worse, but how they're different. And how do older
 acoustic records sound on an orthophonic machine? (In my humble opinion,
 they don't sound all that great on an electrical machine.) Finally, if I
 were to add one orthophonic machine to my collection someday, which one
 would you recommend if my top consideration is sound q
 uality?

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Re: [Phono-L] No reports of Wayne show?

[William Zucca]

OK Steve:

The parking lot on Saturday morning was the biggest I remember, perhaps
because the weather was so nice.  It was a preview of the Sunday but there
were some people with stuff to sell that were not among the vendors on
Sunday. I bought about 40 records including two electric Diamond Discs for
$5 each.

The show on Sunday was, as far as I can tell, well attended .  My sales of
low-end machines and records were the best ever.  My daughter was at my
table and did most of the record sales.  I think she probably gets the
prize for the youngest sales clerk. There were few floor machines offered
for sale which seems to continue the trend of the past few years.  The
usual vendors set up at the usual tables.

Perhaps others can give different perspectives of the show.

Regards,
Bill Zucca



On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 8:29 PM, srsel...@aol.com wrote:




 It's over a week since the Wayne show and there usually a couple of
 reports on attendence, new items (like the repro berliners last time and
 the
 Phonograph Conversations DVD. So any reports would be welcome.

 Steve Ramm

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Re: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part.

[William Zucca]

I just have to make a comment about
collectors...WE are the weirdest bunch of folks
around.  Over the years of collecting phonos, radios, and records, I have
met paranoids, cheapskates, grumpy old guys, loony right-wingers, guys with
guns and/or big rolls of hundred dollar bills, hoarders, religious
fanatics, liars, cultists, shut-ins, guys with rats and roaches in their
houses, boasters, know-it-alls, snobs, and a bunch of really nice guys who
just love old stuff.

Hey, wait a minute!  That sounds a lot like the rest of the population!

Regards,
GreenMountainBill


On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Arvin Casas it...@arvincasas.com wrote:

 I considered hosting a video on my website in a password protected
 directory but then I thought it's a long way to go to prove I exist.

 I fully understand not wanting to get ripped off because it's incredibly
 easy these days, but at some point you have to take that Indiana Jones
 leap of faith.

 What struck me as odd was that even a cleared check was not enough.
 YouTube ergo Sum. :)

 Part of me is just sad it's come to this.  I've met some great phono pholk
 here and on other virtual meeting grounds and at no time did I really
 question who folks said they were (maybe some iffy advice, but not their
 existence!).  That's why I was wondering If this odd little war story of
 mine has any corollary or precedence with the good fellows here.  It's a
 bit more than just promising to mow your grumpy neighbor's lawn for a
 summer just to get a peek at his 78's, lol.

 C'est La Vie

 Arvin


 On 5/8/13 5:09 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote:

 Boy, this Gary guy seems a bit paranoid.  He could always wait for the
 check
 to clear before sending the speaker.   OTOH, I think you can post private
 video to Youtube.   You'd send the link to Gary and tell him to let you
 know
 when he'd seen it.  Then you could remove it, I would think.
 
 Ron L
 
 -Original Message-
 From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Arvin Casas
 Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 2:58 PM
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: [Phono-L] Weird things to do just for a part.
 
 Hi All,
 
 I have a weird question.  In the process of restoring or acquiring pieces
 for your phonographs, have sellers asked you to do odd things beyond
 cutting a check?
 
 I'm trying to restore my Columbia-Kolster Viva-Tonal 950 and found a guy
 on
 youtube who has a speaker that matches what my 950 used to have.
 
 I contacted the seller, we negotiated a price.  I tried to send him
 payment
 through my bank's electronic system (kinda like Paypal but not so many
 fees)
 but he said he had been ripped off that way and refused payment.
 
 Complying with his wishes, I was in the midst of cutting him a paper check
 (this time written by my bank and delivered by courier) when he backed out
 saying the whole thing was fishy.
 
 This seller, Gary in Wisconsin, now wants me to shoot my own youtube video
 showing me and my 950 to prove that I exist. It's a little more than I'm
 comfortable doing.
 
 (Despite the fact that I'm often compared to Cary Grant, I'm not
 particularly fond of videoing myself and posting them publicly.)
 
 Gary says all the radio people do it, so I should too.
 
 Has anybody else been put through the wringer like this just for a part?
 Those of you who cross dabble with Radios, do you often video yourself on
 youtube?
 
 My faith in humanity was sucker punched by this weirdness.  Just wondering
 what others think and what other stories people might like to share, odd,
 weird, or otherwise.
 
 Best Wishes from Massachusetts!
 
 Arvin
 
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Columbia-Kolster 950 - Radio Phonograph Combination

[William Zucca]

Dear Arvin:

I have a Columbia-Kolster 940 and have taken pictures of it for you.  Are
pictures allowed on this list?  I don't think so.  So if you send me your
personal e-mail address, I will attach the pictures.

Regards,
Green Mountain Bill


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Arvin Casas it...@arvincasas.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 I recently picked up a Columbia-Kolster 950, a Radio - Phonograph
 Combination piece embedded inside a secretary (i.e., a desk - not a
 human!).  It seems to have been bouncing about for some time in my region
 (New England) before I rescued it from an oddly forgetful seller's
 disgruntled girlfriend (a very unnecessarily long story).

 The desk as furniture is rather nice - it's a traditional secretary with a
 built in hutch above.  The secret of this secretary is the main drawer
 which actually holds the phonograph.  From what I can gather the
 industrial looking GE motor is intact, as well as all the wires -
 involving the motor and the electric pickup (with its volume knob in
 place).  I only brought it home Saturday evening and have yet to truly get
 inside things.

 Sadly the phonograph is all that remains of this unit.  All during the
 courtship process of buying, the seller insisted that everything was
 intact including the amplifier and speaker, yet admitted that I don't
 know anything about these things.  As you would predict with such kinds
 of hyperbolic, bi-polar sales pitches, this was not the case.  I noticed
 quite loudly upon inspecting the piece in the freezer-cold room of the
 storage facility, that these two key components were nowhere to be found.
 The disgruntled girlfriend, who had been roused from sleep to meet us
 after the appointment had been forgotten by the seller, was happy to let
 us cart it away for a fair, adjusted sum.

 If I can get the phonograph working again on its own, I may try connecting
 the pickup wires to an amplifier.   Ideally, but perhaps with less
 probability of success, I would love to restore this to something close to
 the original (if not the original itself).  Does anyone here know what
 once lived north of the phonograph in these late 1920's hybrids ?  All I
 have is an empty cupboard, so to speak, so I don't even have a visual
 reference of what was once there.  Is it possible to approximate the
 original via Kolster radio components of the same specifications?  If so,
 what might those specs be?

 Even if it sits idle as a desk I'm happy to have it.  I feel like it's a
 nice bridge piece to have in my Columbia collection, between the worlds
 of mechanical and electric.

 Thanks,

 Arvin


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Re: [Phono-L] Columbia-Kolster 950 - Radio Phonograph Combination

[William Zucca]

ba...@barrykasindorf.com ba...@barrykasindorf.com
viahttp://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=enctx=mailanswer=1311182
 oldcrank.org
10:09 AM (4 hours ago)
to Antique
Hi
I have a 950 that is complete for sale. And Roman in CT has one he got from
me.


Arvin: This is the info he sent.  Bill


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Arvin Casas it...@arvincasas.com wrote:

 Thanks Ron - Can you shoot me his info off list?


 On 4/8/13 11:22 AM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote:

 And I know a fellow in Georgia who does a great job restoring the pickups.
 He's done a Vic and a Columbia for me.
 
 Ronald L'Herault
 
 Lab Supervisor, Biomaterials Division
 B.U. School of Dental Medicine
 801 Albany Street S203
 Roxbury, MA 02119
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
 On
 Behalf Of ba...@barrykasindorf.com
 Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 10:10 AM
 To: Antique Phonograph List
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Columbia-Kolster 950 - Radio Phonograph Combination
 
 Hi
 I have a 950 that is complete for sale. And Roman in CT has one he got
 from
 me.
 
 -Barry
 
 
 - Reply message -
 From: Arvin Casas it...@arvincasas.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia-Kolster 950 - Radio Phonograph Combination
 Date: Mon, Apr 8, 2013 8:46 am
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 I recently picked up a Columbia-Kolster 950, a Radio - Phonograph
 Combination piece embedded inside a secretary (i.e., a desk - not a
 human!).  It seems to have been bouncing about for some time in my region
 (New England) before I rescued it from an oddly forgetful seller's
 disgruntled girlfriend (a very unnecessarily long story).
 
 The desk as furniture is rather nice - it's a traditional secretary with a
 built in hutch above.  The secret of this secretary is the main drawer
 which
 actually holds the phonograph.  From what I can gather the industrial
 looking GE motor is intact, as well as all the wires - involving the motor
 and the electric pickup (with its volume knob in place).  I only brought
 it
 home Saturday evening and have yet to truly get inside things.
 
 Sadly the phonograph is all that remains of this unit.  All during the
 courtship process of buying, the seller insisted that everything was
 intact including the amplifier and speaker, yet admitted that I don't
 know
 anything about these things.  As you would predict with such kinds of
 hyperbolic, bi-polar sales pitches, this was not the case.  I noticed
 quite
 loudly upon inspecting the piece in the freezer-cold room of the storage
 facility, that these two key components were nowhere to be found.
 The disgruntled girlfriend, who had been roused from sleep to meet us
 after
 the appointment had been forgotten by the seller, was happy to let us cart
 it away for a fair, adjusted sum.
 
 If I can get the phonograph working again on its own, I may try connecting
 the pickup wires to an amplifier.   Ideally, but perhaps with less
 probability of success, I would love to restore this to something close to
 the original (if not the original itself).  Does anyone here know what
 once
 lived north of the phonograph in these late 1920's hybrids ?  All I have
 is
 an empty cupboard, so to speak, so I don't even have a visual reference of
 what was once there.  Is it possible to approximate the original via
 Kolster
 radio components of the same specifications?  If so, what might those
 specs
 be?
 
 Even if it sits idle as a desk I'm happy to have it.  I feel like it's a
 nice bridge piece to have in my Columbia collection, between the worlds
 of
 mechanical and electric.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Arvin
 
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Columbia-Kolster 950 - Radio Phonograph Combination

[William Zucca]

Barry: Can you send pics of the 950 for sale to:

rochr...@gmail.com

Thanks, Green Mountain Bill


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:09 AM, ba...@barrykasindorf.com 
ba...@barrykasindorf.com wrote:

 Hi
 I have a 950 that is complete for sale. And Roman in CT has one he got
 from me.

 -Barry


 - Reply message -
 From: Arvin Casas it...@arvincasas.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia-Kolster 950 - Radio Phonograph Combination
 Date: Mon, Apr 8, 2013 8:46 am


 Hi All,

 I recently picked up a Columbia-Kolster 950, a Radio - Phonograph
 Combination piece embedded inside a secretary (i.e., a desk - not a
 human!).  It seems to have been bouncing about for some time in my region
 (New England) before I rescued it from an oddly forgetful seller's
 disgruntled girlfriend (a very unnecessarily long story).

 The desk as furniture is rather nice - it's a traditional secretary with a
 built in hutch above.  The secret of this secretary is the main drawer
 which actually holds the phonograph.  From what I can gather the
 industrial looking GE motor is intact, as well as all the wires -
 involving the motor and the electric pickup (with its volume knob in
 place).  I only brought it home Saturday evening and have yet to truly get
 inside things.

 Sadly the phonograph is all that remains of this unit.  All during the
 courtship process of buying, the seller insisted that everything was
 intact including the amplifier and speaker, yet admitted that I don't
 know anything about these things.  As you would predict with such kinds
 of hyperbolic, bi-polar sales pitches, this was not the case.  I noticed
 quite loudly upon inspecting the piece in the freezer-cold room of the
 storage facility, that these two key components were nowhere to be found.
 The disgruntled girlfriend, who had been roused from sleep to meet us
 after the appointment had been forgotten by the seller, was happy to let
 us cart it away for a fair, adjusted sum.

 If I can get the phonograph working again on its own, I may try connecting
 the pickup wires to an amplifier.   Ideally, but perhaps with less
 probability of success, I would love to restore this to something close to
 the original (if not the original itself).  Does anyone here know what
 once lived north of the phonograph in these late 1920's hybrids ?  All I
 have is an empty cupboard, so to speak, so I don't even have a visual
 reference of what was once there.  Is it possible to approximate the
 original via Kolster radio components of the same specifications?  If so,
 what might those specs be?

 Even if it sits idle as a desk I'm happy to have it.  I feel like it's a
 nice bridge piece to have in my Columbia collection, between the worlds
 of mechanical and electric.

 Thanks,

 Arvin


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Re: [Phono-L] Diamond Disc 250 Mystery

[William Zucca]

Well, I am satisfied that I know what the heck it is and how it operated.
Only one question remains in my mind about it..WHY?  The
manual autostop works fine.  Why install a more complex device that
requires electricity to do the same thing?

Thanks for all the information.

Green Mountain Bill

On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:07 AM, DanKj ediso...@verizon.net wrote:

  It was offered in new DD machines, so it can be called 'genuine', yes.  I
 don't think there's any special indication on the ID tag.  About 1.5 volts
 is needed to operate, and that was originally provided by a tall ignition
 cell -  you could use a couple of D cells in parallel, today.  My 250 has a
 square metal battery bracket in the rear-left corner, behind the horn -
 I've always used cheap 6volt lantern batteries which haven't hurt anything
 yet (25+ years and thousands of plays)


 - Original Message - From: William Zucca rochr...@gmail.com

 To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Diamond Disc 250 Mystery



  OK everyone.  Thanks.  Questions:

 Was this a genuine Edison option?  and if so...
 Should this this accessory be designated in some special way on the ID
 tag?
 was the power source-what type of battery?  Should there be a special
 place
 below the motorboard to put the battery?


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Re: [Phono-L] Charlie Hummel on TV

[William Zucca]

Well, I saw it.  It was nice to see Charlie on TV, his house and his
collection.  Two coin-ops were featured and Charlie did a great job
demonstrating his enthusiasm for everything Edison.  He didn't, however,
fit in with the other weird stuff shown on the show.  His hobby is clean
and sensible and not bizarre like the girl who picks up dead animals and
stuffs them or the creepy host..  Or is it my prejudice coming out as
another collector of phonographs and records?

Green Mountain Bill

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:21 PM, bruce78...@comcast.net wrote:

 Unfortunately, that is not an option here. We do get the discovery channel.

 - Original Message -
 From: tomj33 tom...@msn.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:13:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charlie Hummel on TV

 the Science Channel


 Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

  Original message 
 From: bruce78...@comcast.net
 Date:
 To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charlie Hummel on TV

 What Network was it on ?

 - Original Message -
 From: Tom Jordan tom...@msn.com
 To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 1:13:11 AM
 Subject: [Phono-L] Charlie Hummel on TV

 I happened to catch a new show called Odd Folks Home tonight that
 features
 a segment starring Charlie Hummel talking about his Edison collection. FYI
 It's a spin-off from the show Oddities.
 Tom

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[Phono-L] corner columns for Standard model A needed

[William Zucca]

I recently acquired a little Standard model A phonograph and the case came
with only one of its 4 corner columns.  Before I consider reproducing the
missing columns, I thought I would ask here if any of you have a parts
cabinet for this machine who would be willing to sell me the three I need.

Photos available upon request.

Thanks, GrnMountainBill

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[Phono-L] Electrola reproducer?

[William Zucca]

Hello All:

I am looking for an Electrola reproducer and/or small side arm for my
Electrola VE9-40E.  Please write me at rochr...@gmail.com if you can help.

Thanks, GrnMountainBill

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Re: [Phono-L] Victor Tone-Arm assistance needed

[William Zucca]

I always put lots of grease to keep the bearings in while putting the arm
back together AND I also put lots of grease on both surfaces of the felt
donut below the arm where it contacts the iron casting elbow to order to
make a good seal.

GrnMountainBill

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote:

 I wonder if you could even tell the difference if the grease were there or
 not, given the fact that you are supposed to grease joints to make them
 air-tight.

 Ron L

 -Original Message-
 From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Rich
 Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 12:16 PM
 To: Antique Phonograph List
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Tone-Arm assistance needed

 That will not  remove all of it unless you make a project of it, and you
 only want a very light coat of a pure synthetic oil on them anyway.
 Grease is not what belongs in there.

 On 08/02/2012 08:48 AM, Ron L'Herault wrote:
  Why would you want to clean the grease off?  The bearings need to be
  lubed and I'm pretty sure there was grease in there originally.
 
  Ron L
 
  -Original Message-
  From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
  [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Rich
  Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 8:08 AM
  To: Antique Phonograph List
  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Tone-Arm assistance needed
 
  Grease to hold them in place and good electrical contact cleaner to
  clean it out after assembled.
 
  On 08/02/2012 02:26 AM, DanKj wrote:
  I took apart the base of an Orthophonic arm (the kind without bracket
  and pivot pin) and am having a frustrating time getting it together
  again! I just don't see how to get the 5 ball-bearings to stay put
  while the 3 screws are replaced. Tried holding it upside-down in one
  hand, but it was impossible to keep every part in place. Also tried
  assembling right in the Victrola, which almost works - until I try to
  put the black cover on.
 
  I might have done this with a Granada, long ago, but maybe I looked
  at how it was put together  changed my mind!
 
  Any suggestions will be received with gratitude. :)
 
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[Phono-L] WTD: Lid Switch for Victrola VV-9-40E

[William Zucca]

Hello All:

I am in need of a lid switch for my Victor VV-9-40E.  This switch fits
below the motor board on the the top of the dashpot and is activated when
the lid is raised.  I believe that it is the same switch that is used on
the Borgia I and Borgia II.  I have photos available of the switch I need.
If you would like to see it, please send me a message at rochr...@gmail.com

If you know of a possible source for this switch but do now have one
yourself, please e-mail me.

Best Regards,
GrnMountainBill
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[Phono-L] Victor double reproducer tonearm wanted

[William Zucca]

Hello Phonolisters:

I am in need of a new working tonearm for my Victor VE 9-40E Electrola
radio/phono or replacement parts for the electrical pickup swivel arm.  As
you probably know, these parts were potmetal and are frequently swollen
and/or cracked.

Please see the following link to see a similar tonearm on the Borgia model
Victrola.

All assistance will be gratefully accepted.

Regard,
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Re: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller

[William Zucca]

It isn't phono related but I bought a 1909-S V.D.B. cent at a flea market
some years ago for a bargain price ant when I sent it in to a
certification service it turned out to be an added S mint mark to a
plain, old 1909 V.D.B. cent.

On one hand, bargains do turn up in attics, yard sales, and flea markets
but on the other, if it seems too good to be true, it probably is.  Only
the smart collector and wheeler-dealers seem to know which is which.  And I
ain't one of them!

Regards,
Green Mountain Bill

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Randy Larson ra...@cityprayz.com wrote:

 Have you ever heard those stories of a guy responding to a Chevrolet for
 sale in a barn somewhere for $100.  Turned out to be a 67 corvette, I think
 there was even a song about it. I always wondered if that would happen on
 ebay.  A week ago Sunday, A Victor I was posted on ebay for $330.00 but it
 now.  As my heart began to pound, I couldn't believe I was the first, and
 those who snooze loose motto popped in my head. I checked out the photo's
 and the unit was in mint condition.  I immediately purchased it which began
 a roller coaster of emotions.  The other motto of if its too good to be
 true, it usually it also reared it truth of  reality.  I checked his ebay
 and history and there was none.  A tracking number was given and DPD (out
 of Germany) had no record of this number.  The person was also from
 Lithuania!  The phone number given was also bogus.  I sent four emails
 asking for verification and to no avail, no response!
 The good news was that I alerted paypal. They said that they agreed that
 this most likely was a fraudulent sale, and I would be guaranteed that I
 would receive a full refund.  We have to wait, there's a 1% chance he might
 still send it, but paypal has to wait 30 days (time limit for the seller to
 send the package).
 I made a huge mistake and let my emotions get the best of common sense.  I
 hope my mistake will be of help to my phono friends.
 Best Regards
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Re: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller

[William Zucca]

Well maybe on eBay there is a guarantee but not from a guy with a
velvet-covered tray on a pickup truck tailgate in a parking lot in New
Hampshire.

Bill

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:54 PM, zonophone2...@aol.com wrote:

 hi bill et all
 i had the same on ebay but it was the penny that was plain
 you have caveat emptor on ebay too
 zono



 -Original Message-
 From: William Zucca rochr...@gmail.com
 To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Mon, Apr 30, 2012 1:56 pm
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] ebay fraudlent seller


 It isn't phono related but I bought a 1909-S V.D.B. cent at a flea market
 some years ago for a bargain price ant when I sent it in to a
 certification service it turned out to be an added S mint mark to a
 plain, old 1909 V.D.B. cent.

 On one hand, bargains do turn up in attics, yard sales, and flea markets
 but on the other, if it seems too good to be true, it probably is.  Only
 the smart collector and wheeler-dealers seem to know which is which.  And I
 ain't one of them!

 Regards,
 Green Mountain Bill

 On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Randy Larson ra...@cityprayz.com wrote:

  Have you ever heard those stories of a guy responding to a Chevrolet for
  sale in a barn somewhere for $100.  Turned out to be a 67 corvette, I
 think
  there was even a song about it. I always wondered if that would happen on
  ebay.  A week ago Sunday, A Victor I was posted on ebay for $330.00 but
 it
  now.  As my heart began to pound, I couldn't believe I was the first, and
  those who snooze loose motto popped in my head. I checked out the
 photo's
  and the unit was in mint condition.  I immediately purchased it which
 began
  a roller coaster of emotions.  The other motto of if its too good to be
  true, it usually it also reared it truth of  reality.  I checked his
 ebay
  and history and there was none.  A tracking number was given and DPD (out
  of Germany) had no record of this number.  The person was also from
  Lithuania!  The phone number given was also bogus.  I sent four emails
  asking for verification and to no avail, no response!
  The good news was that I alerted paypal. They said that they agreed that
  this most likely was a fraudulent sale, and I would be guaranteed that I
  would receive a full refund.  We have to wait, there's a 1% chance he
 might
  still send it, but paypal has to wait 30 days (time limit for the seller
 to
  send the package).
  I made a huge mistake and let my emotions get the best of common sense.
  I
  hope my mistake will be of help to my phono friends.
  Best Regards
  Randy Larson
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Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question

[William Zucca]

Yes, this is helpful information for me too but I wonder what kind of cloth
is most like original.  That are many nice, rich looking 1920s radio
speaker cloths available but other than that, I wouldn't have a clue what
to use.  My Amberola 50 has some sort of faded ribbed paisley cloth on it
that surely wasn't original- or was it?

Green Mountain Bill

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 5:17 AM, bruce78...@comcast.net wrote:

 Here is a very early Amberola Ad, depicting the seldom seen ill fated
 earliest style Rococo Grill Amberola 1A Cabinet that was made by Herzog.
 Note there is no Grill Cloth shown.

 http://www.atticpaper.com/proddetail.php?prod=1910-edison-amberola-ad

 Bruce

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 From: clockworkh...@aol.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:53:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills  cloth question

 One quick and easy way to tell if the Amberola had a grille cloth or not
 is to see if the horn is wood grained. The Amberola IA, IB, III, IV, V, IV,
 VIII, and X series of Diamond Amberolas had wood grained horns so they did
 not need to have grille cloth to disguise the internal horn. When the
 Amberola 30, 50, 75, and later 60 and 80 came along it was determined that
 a quickly glued in grille cloth would be less expensive than the wood
 grained paint process. So you have an ugly black horn hidden behind the
 cloth.
 Along the way people have added grille cloth to the earlier Amberolas (to
 keep the dust out) and taken the cloth out of the later ones (to let the
 sound out); thus, there is confusion today.
 I hope this helps,
 Al Sefl
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[Phono-L] 1920s recording heads

[William Zucca]

Greetings All in Phonograph Land:

I have several very interesting recording heads that have been in my
collection for over 40 years and which were described to me at the time of
purchase as being from the 1920s.  Two of them are electrical and one is
acoustical.  I have always thought that the electric units (one WE and the
other GE) were professional type used in mastering, but I am not sure (and
anyway, Shure was not around back then- ha).

I would like to find out more about them and wonder if any of you are
especially knowledgeable about such things and would be willing to help
with the identification.  If not, perhaps one of you could suggest whom I
might contact for more information.

Too bad Phono-L doesn't allow attached pictures.

Regards,
GrnMountainBill
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Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist

[William Zucca]

Yes, I think it is.  When I first started listing stuff on craigslist,
nearly every single item resulted in some sort of stupid message like that
along with some really dumb ones in bad English saying something like they
would be sending their representative to pick up the item and would pay with
some sort of check or phooba wire thing.  HA!  Not likely.

I have to add that on some occasions as a buyer, I have offered to pay using
Paypal (if seller has an account) when I couldn't get to the sales location
right away.  That has happened successfully more than once.

GrnMountainBill

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.comwrote:


 You are right, anyone with an interest would include a phone number or
 email address... this is weird. It sounds like some type of phishing scam
 to get your info.

  From: g...@usfamily.net
  To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
  Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 23:44:40 -0500
  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist
 
  Yes.  Here's the complete message I received for something I'm selling on
  Craigslist right now:  I won't bother responding to it. If 'Liz' was
 really
  interested she'd include her phone # or say a little more to let me know
 she
  actually wants it.
 
 
  Hi! Is this still for sale?!
  Liz
 
 
  -- Greg
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com
  To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
  Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist
 
 
  
   I should clarify: when I ask if the item is still available, I at least
   describe the item that I am inquiring about. Are you guys saying that
   people just send out random inquiries for no reason?
  
   From: g...@usfamily.net
   To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
   Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:51:46 -0500
   Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist
  
   When selling on Craigslist, I never bother replying to anyone who just
   asks
   if it is still available. I used to do that and never sold anything to
   any
   of those people anyway. They need to also include SOMETHING that
   indicates
   they actually read my for sale posting and know what the item is that
   they
   are asking about.
  
   -- Greg
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com
   To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
   Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 1:57 PM
   Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist
  
  
   
Hi Rick,
I always ask the question: Is the item still available? - first. I
don't
trust the sellers any more than the buyers and there is absolutely
 no
point asking other questions about the item if it is not
 available...
so,
not all short questions are from scammers. If I was selling
 something,
I'm
not sure that I would necessarily trust someone who didn't ask that
question. Just another thought for what it's worth...
   
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
From: phonofo...@aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:54:14 -0400
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on
 Craigslist
   
   
When the question is short like Is the  item still available?
 always
raised a red flag with me from the beginning. Most inquirers would
 ask

I see the vicotrola ad on craigslist. The victrola looks very nice
 to
me
and I am very intereted, but I have a couple questions about the
 item.
What alpha character after the serial numbbers appear on the id
plate?
My point is the sincere inquirer would not provide a sort abrupt
questio
and he or she will use terms foundin your description and then
elaborate
with their questions. Conartists want to be brief and to the point
before
going off an scamming others.  Just my thougts.
   
   
   
-Original Message-
From: bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wed, Oct 19, 2011 11:46 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on
 Craigslist
   
   
Yes, I can imagine that given the multitude of scammers and con
artists
who now
ppear to taking over Craigslist, more and more people will be
discouraged
from
sing it, and the degree of distrust of anyone making inquiries will
continue to
ise and rise. Is there a solution ? probably not. There are a 100
times
as many
s them, as there are those to track them down and stop this
 nonsense.
- Original Message -
rom: William Zucca rochr...@gmail.com
o: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
ent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:50:23 AM
ubject: Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on
 Craigslist
What a load of crap. I hate those guys. I was confused the first
 time
they
ried it with me and I only wonder how many less sophisticated,
first-time
raigslist sellers give

Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist

[William Zucca]

Sure, but what's the point of engaging in discussion with a scam artist.
Not knowing what was going on the first time this happened to me I did just
that and got a lot of double-talk back from the scammer.

GrnMountainMill

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com wrote:

 If someone sends you an e-mail question regarding your Craigslist For Sale
 item you have their e-mail address already, just hit reply, type your
 answer, and hit send.


 On 10/22/2011 07:38 AM, Vinyl Visions wrote:


 You are right, anyone with an interest would include a phone number or
 email address... this is weird. It sounds like some type of phishing scam
 to get your info.

 From: g...@usfamily.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 23:44:40 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist

 Yes.  Here's the complete message I received for something I'm selling on
 Craigslist right now:  I won't bother responding to it. If 'Liz' was
 really
 interested she'd include her phone # or say a little more to let me know
 she
 actually wants it.


 Hi! Is this still for sale?!
 Liz


 -- Greg


 - Original Message -
 From: Vinyl Visionsvinyl.visions@live.**com vinyl.visi...@live.com
 To:phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist



 I should clarify: when I ask if the item is still available, I at least
 describe the item that I am inquiring about. Are you guys saying that
 people just send out random inquiries for no reason?

 From: g...@usfamily.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:51:46 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist

 When selling on Craigslist, I never bother replying to anyone who just
 asks
 if it is still available. I used to do that and never sold anything to
 any
 of those people anyway. They need to also include SOMETHING that
 indicates
 they actually read my for sale posting and know what the item is that
 they
 are asking about.

 -- Greg


 - Original Message -
 From: Vinyl Visionsvinyl.visions@live.**comvinyl.visi...@live.com
 
 To:phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 1:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist



 Hi Rick,
 I always ask the question: Is the item still available? - first. I
 don't
 trust the sellers any more than the buyers and there is absolutely no
 point asking other questions about the item if it is not available...
 so,
 not all short questions are from scammers. If I was selling something,
 I'm
 not sure that I would necessarily trust someone who didn't ask that
 question. Just another thought for what it's worth...

 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 From: phonofo...@aol.com
 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:54:14 -0400
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist


 When the question is short like Is the  item still available?
 always
 raised a red flag with me from the beginning. Most inquirers would
 ask
 
 I see the vicotrola ad on craigslist. The victrola looks very nice to
 me
 and I am very intereted, but I have a couple questions about the
 item.
 What alpha character after the serial numbbers appear on the id
 plate?
 My point is the sincere inquirer would not provide a sort abrupt
 questio
 and he or she will use terms foundin your description and then
 elaborate
 with their questions. Conartists want to be brief and to the point
 before
 going off an scamming others.  Just my thougts.



 -Original Message-
 From: bruce78rpmbruce78rpm@comcast.**net bruce78...@comcast.net
 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Wed, Oct 19, 2011 11:46 am
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist


 Yes, I can imagine that given the multitude of scammers and con
 artists
 who now
 ppear to taking over Craigslist, more and more people will be
 discouraged
 from
 sing it, and the degree of distrust of anyone making inquiries will
 continue to
 ise and rise. Is there a solution ? probably not. There are a 100
 times
 as many
 s them, as there are those to track them down and stop this nonsense.
 - Original Message -
 rom: William Zuccarochr...@gmail.com
 o: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 ent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:50:23 AM
 ubject: Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist
 What a load of crap. I hate those guys. I was confused the first time
 they
 ried it with me and I only wonder how many less sophisticated,
 first-time
 raigslist sellers give up after not being able to figure out what the
 hell
 s going on with these messages.
 Some sellers ask for a phone number from anyone writing to inquire
 about
 an
 tem and say they won't respond without one. I always give my phone
 number
 hen inquiring about a sale.
 These idiots make it harder to buy and sell on craigslist and make
 raigslist users mistrust everyone 

Re: [Phono-L] Fraud Artists and Crooks descend on Craigslist

[William Zucca]

What a load of crap.  I hate those guys.  I was confused the first time they
tried it with me and I only wonder how many less sophisticated, first-time
craigslist sellers give up after not being able to figure out what the hell
is going on with these messages.

Some sellers ask for a phone number from anyone writing to inquire about an
item and say they won't respond without one.  I always give my phone number
when inquiring about a sale.

These idiots make it harder to buy and sell on craigslist and make
craigslist users mistrust everyone else who uses it.  Damn them.

GrnMountainBill

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 8:43 AM, bruce78...@comcast.net wrote:

 I placed a Victrola for sale on Craigslist today, and almost immediately I
 was contacted by two crooks/scammers.

 Here is one of the bizarre email I received. I am assuming that a certain %
 of Sellers actually fall for this lunacy, otherwise these con artists would
 not be trying it.


 Hello,

 I'm making an immediate purchasing on behalf of my client and you will
 receive check payment in excess over the item price. The check is
 already signed, authorized and ready to be cashed. You are receiving
 over payment because it includes shipper's fee, commission along side
 due payments.

 So, expect pickup because you are not expected to ship. I understand
 that you will only allow the shipping company to pickup from your
 location after you might have received the check.

 In addition, the check will be sent as soon as you agree with me to
 deduct your earnings and send the balance through western union office
 or location. Kindly get back to me ASAP with your full name, address
 and phone# as it will be written on the check. Kindly have the item
 removed off advertisement as it is deemed sold and inform me once
 done.

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[Phono-L] WTB: Victrola 1050

[William Zucca]

Dear Phonolisters:

I am looking for a Victrola 1050 changer to add to my collection.  If you
have one for know of one for sale, please contact me at:

rochr...@gmail.com

Regards,
GrnMountainBill
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[Phono-L] Wanted: Rubber needle cup for portable Victrola

[William Zucca]

Hello All:

I am in need of at least one (possible two) rubber needle/reproducer cup for
a Victor VV-2-35 portable Victrola.  If you have such a thing available,
please contact me at:

rochr...@gmail.com

Regards,
Green Mountain Bill
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[Phono-L] WTB: Victor horn speaker driver and knob for Victrola R-20

[William Zucca]

Dear Phonolisters:

I am still looking for a Victor horn speaker driver and a tiny knob that
goes on the battery compartment door on my Victrola R-20.  This model
Victrola is a small floor cabinet similar to that used on the Consolette
model Victrola but has under its lid an RCA model 20 battery radio. The horn
speaker has a bayonet flange on its end on which the driver unit attaches.
Below the horn is a compartment for the storage of the batteries that ran
the set and this compartment is supposed to have a removable access door.  I
am reproducing this missing door but would very much like to have the very
small metal knob that is used to pull open the door.

Pictures of the knob and the driver are available from me upon your
request.  Just send me your e-mail address.

Please let me know if you have either of these parts for sale or know who
might.

Thanks and best regards,
GrnMountainBill (Getting ready for the arrival of Irene)
rochr...@gmail.com
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[Phono-L] R-20 Victrola and some parts needed

[William Zucca]

Dear Phonolisters:



I recently acquired a Victrola R-20 which resembles a Victrola Consolette
model in appearance but which has only an RCA Radio model 20 under its top
lid.  Like the Consolette has two door in the front  which when open show a
cloth horn cover and below that a compartment for battery storage.  This
cover is missing from my machine.  I would like to get in touch with someone
who has this same unit so I can get a picture of what the compartment cover
looks like.



Presumable I will need a small knob and two round, metal air vents.  Also
missing from my R-20 is the horn driver.  Unlike earlier round, horn driver
used in Victor phono/radio combination machines which were round and made of
potmetal, this one measures 4-3/8” x 3-1/16”, has a black-painted metal
frame and an unpainted rear metal cover, and an internal coil and horseshoe
magnet.  The bottom end is square to the sides and the top end is radiused
like the top of a cathedral radio.  The driver is held on to the end of the
horn speaker by a bayonet flange.  Actually, the flange on the driver is
exactly like that of an Orthophonic reproducer and driver even uses an
Orthophonic diaphragm.



If you have any of the parts available for sale, or if you know where I can
find them elsewhere, please contact me.  I have pictures of the machine and
parts I need upon request.



Thanks and best regards,

Green Mountain Bill

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Re: [Phono-L] Panel Mount Radiola for Sale

[William Zucca]

Greg:  Did you get my message of last night saying that I would like to buy
the Radiola Panel?

Bill in Vermont
rochr...@gmail.com

On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Greg Acker gack...@earthlink.net wrote:

 I just bought a panel mount Radiola V111 battery radio - around 1924,  and
 I wanted to see if anyone on the list could use it before I put it on ebay.
 This is a 13 x 13 1/2 panel. I think it was used by Brunswick but maybe
 Victor or some other brands as well. $65 or best offer.

 Greg Acker - Mercer PA
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Re: [Phono-L] Panel Mount Radiola for Sale

[William Zucca]

Dear Greg:  I would like to buy the Radiola you mention below.  Do you have
a paypal account?

Bill Zucca
Rochester, VT

On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Greg Acker gack...@earthlink.net wrote:

 I just bought a panel mount Radiola V111 battery radio - around 1924,  and
 I wanted to see if anyone on the list could use it before I put it on ebay.
 This is a 13 x 13 1/2 panel. I think it was used by Brunswick but maybe
 Victor or some other brands as well. $65 or best offer.

 Greg Acker - Mercer PA
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Re: [Phono-L] WTB: door pulls for Radiola-Electrola RE-57

[William Zucca]

Do you mean the back plates from my machine?  No, I didn't photograph them
because they look just like those in the knob picture I found on the
Internet that I attached to a previous message.

Bill

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:09 AM, George victr...@triton.net wrote:

 Not attached to the email though?
 Thank you,
 George Vollema
 Great Lakes Antique Phonograph
 5092 Muskego Dr.
 Newaygo MI 49337-8556
 231-652-5753
 www.victroladoctor.com
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  From: William Zucca
  To: Antique Phonograph List
   Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 11:48 AM
  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] WTB: door pulls for Radiola-Electrola RE-57


  George:  I found a picture of the whole front of the cabinet and also did
 a
  crop to show just the pulls.  Attached.  Thanks, Bill

  On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 10:59 AM, George victr...@triton.net wrote:

   If you come up with a picture forward it to me please so I can check for
   you.
   Thank you,
   George Vollema
   Great Lakes Antique Phonograph
   Newaygo MI 49337-8556
   www.victroladoctor.com
 - Original Message -
From: William Zucca
To: Antique Phonograph List
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 7:29 AM
Subject: [Phono-L] WTB: door pulls for Radiola-Electrola RE-57
  
  
Hello All:
I am in need of a couple of door pulls for my Radiola-Electrola RE-57.
 The
back plates are present but the dangly fobs are missing. I don't have a
picture to send you showing what I need but I will continue to look on
 the
Internet for a view of the cabinet showing the front of the doors with
 the
pulls in place. Contact me if you have any available.
  
Thanks,
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Re: [Phono-L] Off Topic - Radio Conversion

[William Zucca]

I did the same thing since poor AM reception and terrible programming does
not lend itself to quality listening time on my old radios.  The transmitter
works very well and covers my whole house and part of the yard.

I am most fond of early radio/phono combination machines like the Brunswick
Radiola 160 and III and the Victor 7-11, Victor V V-7-30S, and Electrola
RE-57.  They are big but they are beautiful.

Regards,
GrnMountainBill

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Abe Feder abefed...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well-I just went the old radio route myself and found a low wattage AM
 transmitter that puts out a signal that you tune to a dead spot on the AM
 dial. I hooked it up to my CD player and you should see the look on friends
 faces when I turn it on and you hear The Shadow knows
 It works really well and having a couple of hundred old radio programs on
 CD
 I really enjoy listening to it-and while it might be these old ears it
 sounds better on this big ol' Zenith than on my up-to-date system.
 Abe

 On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com
 wrote:

 
  A guy was recently throwing this old radio in the trash... it was under a
  house for years, muddy, rusted guts, black plastic painted with white
 house
  paint... trash!!! So, I did what any normal scavenging collector would
 do,
  I recycled it. I made it into a retro iPod dock which charges my iTouch
 and
  plays wonderful old radio music on Radio Dismuke or whatever source. I
 never
  got into radios like phonos, because I didn't want to listen to current
  music on an old radio... part of the nostalgia of phonographs is the
 actual
  music played just like it once was. Now it's the best of both worlds.
  Curt
 
 
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Off Topic - Radio Conversion

[William Zucca]

Abe: I think I happen to live in a good location (New England) for this type
of machine.  Many of the earliest broadcasting stations were in the
Northeast and I believe that once AC-powered radios were practical and on
the market, folks put their battery sets in the attic and forgot about
them.  They were a pain in the butt to power and use.  Some of the combo
machines stayed in the house for the phonograph but today these are often
found without the radio.  I bought two without radios out of barns but found
sets to go into them elsewhere to make a complete set.

The early AC radio-phonograph (Panatrope, Electrola) are fantastic devices
built like tanks, heavy as hell, and fantastically laid out with beautiful
wood, brass or gold hardware, interesting compartments and configurations,
and some even have mechanical devices to change records.  They are
magnificent machines and if I had the money and the space, I would fill a
building with them.  No table-top, Art Deco, Bakelite sets for me!

Nothing like listening to old music and radio shows through a combo machine
with an Orthophonic horn.

GrnMountainBill

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Abe Feder abefed...@gmail.com wrote:

 GmMountainBill,
 You are very lucky, I have been into the antique phonograph hobby about 4
 years and have not had a chance to come across any of the radio/phonograph
 combo's that you list in the wilds of Arizona.  While I have gone to the
 CAPS show the last 3 years I have not seen any of them there either. But
 one
 day...
 Abe

 On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:44 AM, William Zucca rochr...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I did the same thing since poor AM reception and terrible programming
 does
  not lend itself to quality listening time on my old radios.  The
  transmitter
  works very well and covers my whole house and part of the yard.
 
  I am most fond of early radio/phono combination machines like the
 Brunswick
  Radiola 160 and III and the Victor 7-11, Victor V V-7-30S, and Electrola
  RE-57.  They are big but they are beautiful.
 
  Regards,
  GrnMountainBill
  
  On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Abe Feder abefed...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Well-I just went the old radio route myself and found a low wattage AM
   transmitter that puts out a signal that you tune to a dead spot on the
 AM
   dial. I hooked it up to my CD player and you should see the look on
  friends
   faces when I turn it on and you hear The Shadow knows
   It works really well and having a couple of hundred old radio programs
 on
   CD
   I really enjoy listening to it-and while it might be these old ears it
   sounds better on this big ol' Zenith than on my up-to-date system.
   Abe
  
   On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Vinyl Visions 
 vinyl.visi...@live.com
   wrote:
  
   
A guy was recently throwing this old radio in the trash... it was
 under
  a
house for years, muddy, rusted guts, black plastic painted with white
   house
paint... trash!!! So, I did what any normal scavenging collector
  would
   do,
I recycled it. I made it into a retro iPod dock which charges my
 iTouch
   and
plays wonderful old radio music on Radio Dismuke or whatever source.
 I
   never
got into radios like phonos, because I didn't want to listen to
 current
music on an old radio... part of the nostalgia of phonographs is the
   actual
music played just like it once was. Now it's the best of both worlds.
Curt
   
   
   
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Re: [Phono-L] radio transmitter

[William Zucca]

I have owned a TH-5.0 for several months and it works great!  It is very
simple to set up and use and they have an optional outside antenna that
increases the transmission range dramatically if you want to be a
neighborhood DJ or live on a farm.  I bought it directly from Talking House
(www.talkinghouse.com) and the model 5.0 seems to still be on sale for $99.

GranMountainBill

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 6:47 PM, jerry f bacon artemp...@sbcglobal.netwrote:

 You can find these on EBAY or here is the place to get one
 http://www.sstran.com/

 I have one and it is terriffic, there is also one called Talking House but
 be
 careful which model you get, I think the #5 might be OK.

 Jerry F Bacon - Dallas,Tx
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Re: [Phono-L] WTB: door pulls for Radiola-Electrola RE-57

[William Zucca]

Yes, I guess that explains why I have the backing plates but no fobs.

Thanks, Bill

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, cdh...@earthlink.net
cdh...@earthlink.netwrote:

 I'll look, but don't hold your breath. I'm junking an RE-57, and there
 could be door pulls on it. The stupid little things are frail as a shadow,
 and are missing more often than not.

 Original Message:
 -
 From: George victr...@triton.net
 Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 10:59:29 -0400
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] WTB: door pulls for Radiola-Electrola RE-57


 If you come up with a picture forward it to me please so I can check for
 you.
 Thank you,
 George Vollema
 Great Lakes Antique Phonograph
 Newaygo MI 49337-8556
 www.victroladoctor.com
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  From: William Zucca
  To: Antique Phonograph List
  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 7:29 AM
  Subject: [Phono-L] WTB: door pulls for Radiola-Electrola RE-57


  Hello All:
  I am in need of a couple of door pulls for my Radiola-Electrola RE-57. The
  back plates are present but the dangly fobs are missing. I don't have a
  picture to send you showing what I need but I will continue to look on the
  Internet for a view of the cabinet showing the front of the doors with the
  pulls in place. Contact me if you have any available.

  Thanks,
  GrnMountainBill
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Re: [Phono-L] Orthophonic Tonearm ballbearing info

[William Zucca]

Thanks, Ron. Do you have any idea where I can buy ONE ball bearing of the
correct size?  Have you ever seen on the Internet a procedure for rebuilding
Orthophonic tonearms?  I want to check my work.

Thanks,
GrnMountainBill

On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote:

 As far as I know, they should all be the same. If one was bigger it is
 because it is a poor replacement.

 Ron L

 -Original Message-
 From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
 On
 Behalf Of William Zucca
 Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 10:56 PM
 To: Antique Phonograph List
 Subject: [Phono-L] Orthophonic Tonearm ballbearing info

 Hello All:

 I am working on an Orthophonic Victrola V V-4-40 and have cleaned out the
 old grease at the base of the tonearm as it attaches to the bracket bolted
 to the rear of the turntable deck.  I find 5 small ball bearings there; one
 per divot in the cup on the bottom of the bracket.  Am I nuts or is one of
 the ball bearings larger than the rest?  If this is as it is supposed to
 be,
 what is the purpose  of the larger ball and in which divot does it belong?

 Always wanting to move smoothly towards restoration,
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[Phono-L] Orthophonic Tonearm ballbearing info

[William Zucca]

Hello All:

I am working on an Orthophonic Victrola V V-4-40 and have cleaned out the
old grease at the base of the tonearm as it attaches to the bracket bolted
to the rear of the turntable deck.  I find 5 small ball bearings there; one
per divot in the cup on the bottom of the bracket.  Am I nuts or is one of
the ball bearings larger than the rest?  If this is as it is supposed to be,
what is the purpose  of the larger ball and in which divot does it belong?

Always wanting to move smoothly towards restoration,
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Re: [Phono-L] Help with Columbia phono ID

[William Zucca]

Ron: Should I send you a picture?

GrnMountainBill

On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote:

 Possibly a 150?

 Ron L

 -Original Message-
 From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
 On
 Behalf Of William Zucca
 Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 3:32 PM
 To: Antique Phonograph List
 Subject: [Phono-L] Help with Columbia phono ID

  Dear Members:  I have a Columbia floor model phonograph that I cannot
 identify.  It has short legs, two doors in front with 4- pivot out record
 wooden boxes with knobs, a drawer under the record boxes, and two
 horizontal
 slats for the volume control.  Also unusual is that the motorboard under
 the
 lid is raised with radiused edges and corners.  All the controls are
 obviously Columbia as is the arm/reproducer.

 I have a picture I can send you upon request to help with I.D.

 Thanks,
 GrnMountainBill
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[Phono-L] Help with Columbia phono ID

[William Zucca]

Dear Members:  I have a Columbia floor model phonograph that I cannot
identify.  It has short legs, two doors in front with 4- pivot out record
wooden boxes with knobs, a drawer under the record boxes, and two horizontal
slats for the volume control.  Also unusual is that the motorboard under the
lid is raised with radiused edges and corners.  All the controls are
obviously Columbia as is the arm/reproducer.

I have a picture I can send you upon request to help with I.D.

Thanks,
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[Phono-L] No luck yet getting mica diaphragm

[William Zucca]

Hello Phonolisters:

Despite suggestions from some of you, I have not been able to find a
1-15/16 mica diaphragm for my Claxtonola table model phonograph.  Maybe
someone else on the list who did not contact me with a suggestion could
suggest a source?

Thanks,
GrnMountainBill
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[Phono-L] Black Swan-2

[William Zucca]

Dear Phonolisters:

All the talk of Pattis and Swans in recent Phonolist postings makes me think
of one of my big fish that got away stories.

When I was in high school and living in Orlando, I made contact with an old
collector who invited me over to trade some stuff.  I brought with me a
spare Radiola III and Balanced Amp and a small Victor Orthophonic Victrola
as he expressed interest in when I listed the items I had for trade over the
phone.

I made a deal to trade my items for several other Radiolas and as I walked
through his garage to take the sets to my car, I saw shelves of records up
against the wall.  Since I considered myself to be primarily a collector of
1920s jazz records with phonographs and radios only a side interest, I
stopped to take a look at what was there.  Every record I pulled off the
shelves at random were Black Swans!  I tried several shelves and all were
Swans with multiple copies of some records.  I was taken aback as I tried to
figure out the right way to discuss this discovery with him.

After mentioning the records in the garage to him, he told me that he
didn't really collect records but years before had bought out the contents
of an old furniture store on Church Street (in the heart of the Black
neighborhood of Orlando) and the records came with the other stuff.  I told
him of my interest and he said that maybe we could do some more trading.

I called him many times after that but he never seemed interested in what I
had for trade.

Once when I was home from college I called his phone number to find it
disconnected. I drove by his house to discover it empty and for sale.  I
have always wondered what happened to those records.  Are they now on the
shelves of some other record collector or did his wife or children just put
them out for the trash men.

Regards,
Green Mountain Bill

PS: Speaking of Orlando, do any of you remember a husband and wife
phonograph collectors named Coffee?  With my dad waiting in the car, I
traded cylinders for radio items to them several times before I was able to
drive myself around.
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[Phono-L] 1-15/16 mica diaphragm

[William Zucca]

Dear Phonolisters:

I am restoring a very nice little Claxtonia table model phonograph and need
to replace the reproducer diaphragm.  It measures exactly 1-15/16 in
diameter and has the usual small hole in the center. A snap ring holds it in
place but spread in a narrow channel beneath the diaphragm in the body of
the reproducer is a rubbery grey sealant that came out with the diaphragm.
It reminds me of some kind of modern window sealant.

Can anyone tell me where to get a replacement diaphragm in that size and
what material should be used to replace the sticky, grey sealant?

Thanks,
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Re: [Phono-L] 1-15/16 mica diaphragm

[William Zucca]

Is his a business or is he an individual?  Do you have contact info?

Thanks,
GrnMountainBill

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:35 PM, phono...@aol.com wrote:

 Brian Krapes in Golden Co has these.  Perfectly fashioned.





 -Original Message-
 From: William Zucca rochr...@gmail.com
 To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Wed, Feb 9, 2011 10:17 pm
 Subject: [Phono-L] 1-15/16 mica diaphragm


 Dear Phonolisters:
 I am restoring a very nice little Claxtonia table model phonograph and need
 o replace the reproducer diaphragm.  It measures exactly 1-15/16 in
 iameter and has the usual small hole in the center. A snap ring holds it in
 lace but spread in a narrow channel beneath the diaphragm in the body of
 he reproducer is a rubbery grey sealant that came out with the diaphragm.
 t reminds me of some kind of modern window sealant.
 Can anyone tell me where to get a replacement diaphragm in that size and
 hat material should be used to replace the sticky, grey sealant?
 Thanks,
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Re: [Phono-L] Timing your cylinder phonograph the Dazer way works great on disc machines

[William Zucca]

Steven:

All four of my old machines were off (three cylinder machines and a DD) but
I tend to like records played a little slower than some people because, in
particular, I think the voices sound more natural at slower speeds.  I
recently got a little support for my theory when I read the story 1920s
Jazz at 78rpm? in Sandy Brown Jazz (
http://www.sandybrownjazz.co.uk/whatsnew.html).  I may not be nuts after
all.

I cut a tiny piece of white sticky paper to attach to the mandrels and
turntable for the device to read.  I also checked my modern electric
turntables just to see if they are running at the correct speeds.  They were
pretty close at their fixed speeds; even my old broadcast table on which I
play 16 transcriptions. One additional benefit of this device is that the
Numark turntable, with which I play most of my 78s, has a variable speed
control but it is marked in percentage, not rpm.  So it is now easy for me
to find 76 rpm and 80rpm.  I still think that these standard speeds are too
fast for some records, particularly those made before about 1912.

GrnMountianBill

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote:


 GrnMountainBill

 You are 100% correct, I saw this one on amazon but I did not realize it was
 the same as the one on eBay.  Thanks for the post.  Have you used yours and
 how far off was your machines?

 On the cylinder machines I set the device on the rail and I use one record
 with the sticker on it.  Whiteout works, I have one DD record with a crack,
 I marked the end of the crack with whiteout to protect my needle and it
 picked it up.

 Thanks,

 Steve

  Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:02:44 -0500
  From: rochr...@gmail.com
  To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Timing your cylinder phonograph the Dazer way
 works great on disc machines
  
  Steve: I found mine on Amazon for much less:
 
 
 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001N4QY66/ref=asc_df_B001N4QY661415145?smid=AFLT987H7WA7Gtag=dealtmp4800-20linkCode=asncreative=395105creativeASIN=B001N4QY66
 
  GrnMountainBill
 
  On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
 wrote:
 
  
   Hello Cylinder Phono owners,
  
   Are you tired of using those hard to read strobes for your cylinder
 player
   or the dreaded count the piece of paper hitting your finger? If so you
 can
   measure the RPM's with the:
   Wood/Metal Lathe Digital LCD Tachometer RPM Tool/Guage (how the eBay
   seller spelled it)
   Neither Dave or I are selling them but they work incredibly well. Dave
   told me about them and I am sharing them with you. Up until now I used
 my
   ear to time my cylinder phonos. My triumph was right on, my standard
 was
   1.5 rpm high and my DD was low. Those of you with hundreds of machines
 can
   have hours of fun.
  
  
  
 http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40_trksid=m570_nkw=Wood%2FMetal+Lathe+Digital+LCD+Tachometer+RPM+Tool%2FGuage
  
   http://tinyurl.com/632kqad
  
   Steve
  
  
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Re: [Phono-L] Timing your cylinder phonograph the Dazer way works great on disc machines

[William Zucca]

Steve: I found mine on Amazon for much less:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001N4QY66/ref=asc_df_B001N4QY661415145?smid=AFLT987H7WA7Gtag=dealtmp4800-20linkCode=asncreative=395105creativeASIN=B001N4QY66

GrnMountainBill

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote:


 Hello Cylinder Phono owners,

 Are you tired of using those hard to read strobes for your cylinder player
 or the dreaded count the piece of paper hitting your finger?  If so you can
 measure the RPM's with the:
 Wood/Metal Lathe Digital LCD Tachometer RPM Tool/Guage  (how the eBay
 seller spelled it)
 Neither Dave or I are selling them but they work incredibly well.  Dave
 told me about them and I am sharing them with you.  Up until now I used my
 ear to time my cylinder phonos.  My triumph was right on, my standard was
 1.5 rpm high and my DD was low.  Those of  you with hundreds of machines can
 have hours of fun.


 http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40_trksid=m570_nkw=Wood%2FMetal+Lathe+Digital+LCD+Tachometer+RPM+Tool%2FGuage

 http://tinyurl.com/632kqad

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Re: [Phono-L] Timing your cylinder phonograph the Dazer way works great on disc machines

[William Zucca]

This is indeed an interesting topic.

There is a related topic that concerns early motion picture speeds.  It
seems that early directors and cameramen were not that steady in the hand
cranking of film cameras but audiences didn't seem to notice.  Speeding up
and slowing down the film during projection was also done.  I became
interested in this topic because I was told in film class that TV film chain
projectors could only project at 24fps and so silent films always looked
comically fast when seen today.  I was incredulous that film restorers would
allow classic silent films to be seen incorrectly in this way. But later I
learned that there was no standard film speed until sound films started
being made and that audiences in the 1920s didn't seem to mind the actors
walking fast in some parts and normally in others.

So, maybe record buyers in the early days didn't notice the difference
between one recording of Billy Murray and the next one where his voice was
higher or lower when played at the speed where their Victrola or Standard
was set.  BTW, it is with his records (and many vocal quartets) that I
usually slow down the speed so he doesn't sound so much like a woman.  His
singing seems more natural to me that way.  I am not a musician and don't
have perfect pitch so I have no way of knowing if the music is being played
in the correct key.

GrnMountainBill in the midst of a big snowstorm

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Mike Stitt smst...@gmail.com wrote:

 An interesting thread. We know that brown wax speeds vary considerably.
 Even
 early discs varied. Later production cylinders settled in to a standard
 speed but how consistent would that be..? Some manufacturers may have been
 more diligent than others trying to achieve such consistency.

 It all may be a moot point really that you have the speed dialed in to such
 accuracy but it is an interesting topic.
 Mike
 Oldcranky

 On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
 wrote:

 
  GrnMountianBill,
 
  Thanks, disc machines are nice to time that way, I like having the tool.
 
  Steve
 
 
   Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:53:42 -0500
   From: rochr...@gmail.com
   To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
   Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Timing your cylinder phonograph the Dazer way
  works great on disc machines
  
   Steven:
  
   All four of my old machines were off (three cylinder machines and a DD)
  but
   I tend to like records played a little slower than some people because,
  in
   particular, I think the voices sound more natural at slower speeds. I
   recently got a little support for my theory when I read the story
 1920s
   Jazz at 78rpm? in Sandy Brown Jazz (
   http://www.sandybrownjazz.co.uk/whatsnew.html). I may not be nuts
 after
   all.
  
   I cut a tiny piece of white sticky paper to attach to the mandrels and
   turntable for the device to read. I also checked my modern electric
   turntables just to see if they are running at the correct speeds. They
  were
   pretty close at their fixed speeds; even my old broadcast table on
 which
  I
   play 16 transcriptions. One additional benefit of this device is that
  the
   Numark turntable, with which I play most of my 78s, has a variable
 speed
   control but it is marked in percentage, not rpm. So it is now easy for
 me
   to find 76 rpm and 80rpm. I still think that these standard speeds are
  too
   fast for some records, particularly those made before about 1912.
  
   GrnMountianBill
  
   On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
  wrote:
  
   
GrnMountainBill
   
You are 100% correct, I saw this one on amazon but I did not realize
 it
  was
the same as the one on eBay. Thanks for the post. Have you used yours
  and
how far off was your machines?
   
On the cylinder machines I set the device on the rail and I use one
  record
with the sticker on it. Whiteout works, I have one DD record with a
  crack,
I marked the end of the crack with whiteout to protect my needle and
 it
picked it up.
   
Thanks,
   
Steve
   
 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:02:44 -0500
 From: rochr...@gmail.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Timing your cylinder phonograph the Dazer
 way
works great on disc machines

 Steve: I found mine on Amazon for much less:


   
 
 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001N4QY66/ref=asc_df_B001N4QY661415145?smid=AFLT987H7WA7Gtag=dealtmp4800-20linkCode=asncreative=395105creativeASIN=B001N4QY66

 GrnMountainBill

 On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Steven Medved 
 steve_nor...@msn.com
wrote:

 
  Hello Cylinder Phono owners,
 
  Are you tired of using those hard to read strobes for your
 cylinder
player
  or the dreaded count the piece of paper hitting your finger? If
 so
  you
can
  measure the RPM's with the:
  Wood/Metal Lathe Digital LCD Tachometer RPM Tool/Guage (how the
  eBay
  seller spelled it)
  

[Phono-L] Victor Suitcase rubber reproducer receptacle

[William Zucca]

Dear Phonolisters:

I haven't seen any reply to my query about whether anyone has reproduced a
Victor Suitcase rubber reproducer/used needle receptacle.  Perhaps no one
has, but I am worried that my posting never made it out to the list for
everyone to see.

Has anyone seen such a thing offered for sale?

Regards,
GrnMountainBill

PS: Happy Deepsnow Day!  Here in the mountains there is about 25 of
beautiful white snow on the ground with sparkling airborne silver flakes
glistening in the midwinter sunshine.
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Re: [Phono-L] [Phono-L) MIND the subject line PLEASE

[William Zucca]

Sorry, my fault.  I told the joke about the English phonograph industry
which everyone realized was a thinly-veiled jab and British cars of the '30s
- '60s.  Mea Culpa.  It won't happen again; at least not by me.

GrnMountain Bill

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 5:37 PM, srsel...@aol.com wrote:

 I looked today and there were 14 messages with thwe subject The New
 Phonogram so I selected one there's something about foreign cars. So I
 click
 another... same thing. SOMEWHERE there must have been something about New
 Phonograms, right? C'mon guys. Don't be so fast to just hit reply. If
 changing  the subject, please change the subject line. ;-)

 Steve
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Re: [Phono-L] Victor Suitcase rubber reproducer receptacle

[William Zucca]

Ron: The rubber cup is a friction fit into a concave depression needle
cup (applied metal cup?).  Any that I have seen is not round on the top rim
but elongated so that the reproducer will be cradled securely while the
machine is moved.  On the outside edge of the rubber cup is a depression w/
small center hole to allow the disposal of used needles.  They fall through
and collect under the rubber cup in the metal needle cup onto which the
rubber cup is attached.

I have a picture I can send to your personal address to verify that we are
talking about the same thing.

Issues I wonder about:
1. Was the rubber cup originally round rather than elongated?
2. Have you tried soaking your nice but hardened example in brake fluid?
That liquid has worked wonders on hardened rubber parts from my old cars and
electric fans.
3. If someone wanted to reproduce this item (at high mold making cost),
would there be a market for it knowing that it would cost about as much as
the whole machine is worth?

Regards,
GrnMountain Bill

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote:

 I saw the original post.  Are you talking about the metal banded thing with
 the depression on one side (where the needle bar would go?) and which sat
 in
 a flat-bottomed, cup-like depression in the portable's motorboard?  I've
 got
 one that I think is still the right size and shape but it has hardened up
 with age.   I'd love to see a repro as well.

 Ron L

 -Original Message-
 From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
 On
 Behalf Of William Zucca
 Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:40 PM
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Suitcase rubber reproducer receptacle

 Dear Phonolisters:

 I haven't seen any reply to my query about whether anyone has reproduced a
 Victor Suitcase rubber reproducer/used needle receptacle.  Perhaps no one
 has, but I am worried that my posting never made it out to the list for
 everyone to see.

 Has anyone seen such a thing offered for sale?

 Regards,
 GrnMountainBill

 PS: Happy Deepsnow Day!  Here in the mountains there is about 25 of
 beautiful white snow on the ground with sparkling airborne silver flakes
 glistening in the midwinter sunshine.
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Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay

[William Zucca]

Personally, I never liked the Whiteman version because of the lame try at
scat singing.  I understand that there is a Whiteman version without vocal,
but I have never heard it.

Grnmountain Bill

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:38 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote:

 I still have a copy of the Whiteman version but I am not that impressed by
 it. I might sell it too.
 John
 --Original Message--
 From: jim...@earthlink.net
 Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
 To: phonolist
 ReplyTo: phonolist
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay
  Sent: Jan 19, 2011 11:18 AM

 My favorite record of The Charleston is that by the Golden Gate Orchestra
 on Edison diamond disc - Adrian Rollini's bass sax solo is marvelous.

 Jim Cartwright
 Immortal Performances, Inc.

 jim...@earthlink.net


  [Original Message]
  From: Douglas Houston cdh...@earthlink.net
  To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
  Date: 19-Jan-2011 12:43:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay
 
  I missed a lot of the messages about the Charleston record. was really
  cxurious, too. Could somebody fill me in on which performance/artist (and
  possibly label) that was? I've had one on Brunswick for a long time, and
  feel that it must be about as authentic an arrangement as ever there was.
  Nice record.
 
  Thanks.
 
 
   [Original Message]
   From: john9...@pacbell.net
   To: phonolist phono-l@oldcrank.org
   Date: 1/18/2011 11:32:30 PM
   Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay
  
   Yeah, I was expecting maybe $40 to $50...
   --Original Message--
   From: Vinyl Visions
   Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
   To: phonolist
   ReplyTo: phonolist
   Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay
   Sent: Jan 18, 2011 7:25 PM
  
  
  
   Hey John, congratulations - that was a home run...
   Curt
  
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Re: [Phono-L] Charleston by Whiteman's O

[William Zucca]

Well, a friend once told me that it was actually BILLY MURRAY, but I can't
verify this.

Thank you very much for the chance to hear the non-vocal version.  What is
the source of that recording?  Did Victor release this alternate take under
the same catalog number?

GrnMountainBill

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 6:32 PM, DanKj ediso...@verizon.net wrote:

 The same voice made a four syllable reappearance on Charlestonette, 4
 months later. I assume he was a band member.

 Here's Charleston, take 5, which has no vocal effects.  There are a couple
 of overmodulated moments, so maybe that's why this take wasn't used.

 http://www.box.net/shared/m8niz5c5ml



 - Original Message - From: john9...@pacbell.net


 Yeah that is actually funny!
 -Original Message-
 From: William Zucca rochr...@gmail.com

 Personally, I never liked the Whiteman version because of the lame try at
 scat singing.  I understand that there is a Whiteman version without
 vocal,
 but I have never heard it.

 Grnmountain Bill

 On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:38 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote:

 I still have a copy of the Whiteman version but I am not that impressed by
 it. I might sell it too.


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[Phono-L] Victor Suitcase Rubber Cradle

[William Zucca]

Dear PhonoListers:

For Victor portable suitcase machines, has anyone reproduced the rubber
reproducer cradle/needle disposal cup?  I would think that almost every one
of these machine would now need one.

Regards,
GrnMountain Bill
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Re: [Phono-L] Stuck Motor Board

[William Zucca]

Bob:  The back panel is still stuck fast but you can see in my earlier reply
to this thread that I used suggestions of several members to get the motor
board open.  Next I will be giving the back panel a whack from the
inside with my trustee rubber mallet by putting in the motor board hole.

Thanks for writing.

GrnMountain Bill

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net wrote:

 William:

 If the cabinet has a back removable panel, Can you remove the back panel to
 the upper portion of the cabinet? If so, you may be able to inspect or tap
 from underneath.

 I am not familiar with the XI in terms of how it is constructed. On some
 models, this is the way to remove the horn, out the rear.

 You may have already eliminated this, given this is not a design feature of
 your phono.

 Later

 Bob

 -Original Message-
 From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
 On
 Behalf Of William Zucca
  Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 10:01 PM
 To: Antique Phonograph List
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Stuck Motor Board

 If I could verify that the motor board is on a swivel then I would place a
 board lined with a felt strip on it across the BACK of the motor board and
 give a few swift blows with the mallet to see if I can loosen it.  Perhaps
 someone who owns an XVII can verify that the motor board swivels on a pivot
 just to the rear of its center so I don't do any damage.

 GrnMountain Bill

 On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:54 PM, john robles john9...@pacbell.net
 wrote:

  SOunds like a case of simple warpage and wood swelling then...
 
  --- On Mon, 1/10/11, William Zucca rochr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  From: William Zucca rochr...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Stuck Motor Board
  To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
  Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 8:52 PM
 
  John:  Yes, everything have been removed from the motor board and frame.
  Only the motor screws remain. I even tried tapping with rubber mallet to
  see
  if there would be any movement.  But there is none.
 
  Thanks for the picture.
 
  GrnMountain Bill
 
  On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:35 PM, john robles john9...@pacbell.net
  wrote:
 
   Did you remove the turntable and reposition the automatic stop yoke?
 This
   is often the culprit, because the two arms of the stop yoke overlap
 form
  the
   motorboard to the motorboard frame. Check this link to a photo of what
 I
   mean. The yoke is circled in white.
   http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/
   John Robles
  
   --- On Mon, 1/10/11, William Zucca rochr...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   From: William Zucca rochr...@gmail.com
   Subject: [Phono-L] Stuck Motor Board
   To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
   Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 8:04 PM
  
   Dear Phono-Lers:
  
   I recently acquired a Victrola VV-XVII.  It is pretty nice machine but
 is
   missing the crank, needle cup, motor board knob, and one large storage
  door
   knob.
  
   ANYWAY...
  
   After removing the screws that hold down the motor board (two in the
  front
   and perhaps a third in the rear center just in from the tonearm
 bracket),
  I
   have been unable to get the board to either swivel on a pivot or come
 up
   out
   of the top of the machine!  What am I doing wrong?  There is no
 movement
  of
   the motor board in any direction.  It is stuck tight.  Any suggestions
   about
   how to remove it?
  
  
   On the back of the machine there is a panel that seems to be held in
 with
   two brass screws on its bottom edge and also has two acorn wooden
 plugs
   at
   the top.  I removed all of these and this panel too is stuck fast!
  What
  is
   going on?
  
   Regards,
   GrnMountain Bill
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[Phono-L] Stuck Motor Board

[William Zucca]

Dear Phono-Lers:

I recently acquired a Victrola VV-XVII.  It is pretty nice machine but is
missing the crank, needle cup, motor board knob, and one large storage door
knob.

ANYWAY...

After removing the screws that hold down the motor board (two in the front
and perhaps a third in the rear center just in from the tonearm bracket), I
have been unable to get the board to either swivel on a pivot or come up out
of the top of the machine!  What am I doing wrong?  There is no movement of
the motor board in any direction.  It is stuck tight.  Any suggestions about
how to remove it?


On the back of the machine there is a panel that seems to be held in with
two brass screws on its bottom edge and also has two acorn wooden plugs at
the top.  I removed all of these and this panel too is stuck fast!  What is
going on?

Regards,
GrnMountain Bill
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Re: [Phono-L] Stuck Motor Board

[William Zucca]

John:  Yes, everything have been removed from the motor board and frame.
Only the motor screws remain. I even tried tapping with rubber mallet to see
if there would be any movement.  But there is none.

Thanks for the picture.

GrnMountain Bill

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:35 PM, john robles john9...@pacbell.net wrote:

 Did you remove the turntable and reposition the automatic stop yoke? This
 is often the culprit, because the two arms of the stop yoke overlap form the
 motorboard to the motorboard frame. Check this link to a photo of what I
 mean. The yoke is circled in white.
 http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/
 John Robles

 --- On Mon, 1/10/11, William Zucca rochr...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: William Zucca rochr...@gmail.com
 Subject: [Phono-L] Stuck Motor Board
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 8:04 PM

 Dear Phono-Lers:

 I recently acquired a Victrola VV-XVII.  It is pretty nice machine but is
 missing the crank, needle cup, motor board knob, and one large storage door
 knob.

 ANYWAY...

 After removing the screws that hold down the motor board (two in the front
 and perhaps a third in the rear center just in from the tonearm bracket), I
 have been unable to get the board to either swivel on a pivot or come up
 out
 of the top of the machine!  What am I doing wrong?  There is no movement of
 the motor board in any direction.  It is stuck tight.  Any suggestions
 about
 how to remove it?


 On the back of the machine there is a panel that seems to be held in with
 two brass screws on its bottom edge and also has two acorn wooden plugs
 at
 the top.  I removed all of these and this panel too is stuck fast!  What is
 going on?

 Regards,
 GrnMountain Bill
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