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Dan, All fair points. I must add that I do rely on local dealers like Ron Haring to help out on occassion. He has some nice items I have looked for at fair prices. BUT, one last example (cuz this one's my favorite)just to prove my previous point based on my personal experienceI picked up a Hexaphone model 103 for $8000 that was proven to be in the hands of Clarence Ferguson at one time. These are always at the shows for at least $10,000. Not a killing, but a good deal. So, although things can seem "unlikely", dreams and a little patience (and perhps luck) do come true. Ron -Original Message- From: Daniel Melvin To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Wed, Aug 18, 2010 1:53 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS I can see Ron's point, but how many people actually see such buys locally? I have an extensive collection of advertising signs but have never even found one locally (well I have found a couple at a quarterly antique show full of out of town dealers in my city). And to find a $1500 lamp phonograph seems like a very unlikely occurance. But, things do come up occasionally for better deals at estate sales and such. I can't see how you could really fill out much of a collection with local buys. At least not in my area. Without knowing others that bring things to my attention and access to the quality that are at the shows, I wouldn't have much of anything. So, yes it would be wonderful to find everything locally for great prices. But, in my experience those deals are few and far between. Dan On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:40 AM, wrote: I attended the Union show and agree with the fact that there was some pretty nice stuff, but I don't necessarily agree that all the prices were all that great (at least not for the stuff I would purchase). I have been looking for a nice phonograph advertising sign for example. I saw one for around $900+. I could have purchased it, but my less spontanous half (my wife :) ) said I should hold off. Long story, short, I was able to find the exact sign from a local individual who new what he had, but charged me only $275. I also had been looking for a phonolamp. This is something the wife always wanted. Again, with a little patience and waiting for the right individual, I found one for $1500 in all original working condition! Not bad. Bottom line, I find more and more that the shows do not necessarily provide the best buys and things aren't that difficult to find if your patient. With the economy as it is, there are more and more people looking to free things up that they have held onto as they need the money. Thus, I go to the shows to look and talk with folks, but do my shopping elsewhere or person to person. just some personal experience...Ron -Original Message- From: Daniel Melvin To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Wed, Aug 18, 2010 11:16 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS I did not attend CAPS (even thought I did originaly plan to), but after reading the comments it appears to me that the expierience very much follows what was seen at the Union show in June. Tons of great stuff, some of it for terrific prices, but very little actually sold. It was a very slow show as far as selling went for many dealers. I really believe we are seeing the effects of the economy and fear of spending. I don't think it really had much at all to do with CAPS itself. I think it's just the way things are going right now and that it will turn around. So, it's been a slow year. That's all it is. It isn't an issue of the hobby or the shows that is keeping folks from buying. It's just fear of the unknown. My 2 cents... Dan On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:52 AM, DeeDee Blais wrote: I'm glad to have an open discussion about the sale and I think it's healthy. The club did a great job. There were plenty of sellers providing a variety of items at very good prices. It was simply a buyers market and buyers did not open their billfolds very often. I thought attendance was OK and I'm glad to read that it was a bit higher than last year. I noticed new faces late into the sale. I did close a couple of sales but it was difficult and probably not worth the effort. The sale of my Edison Standard B (2 min only) was a good example. I paid $175 for the machine, refinished the case (decal & materials about $20 plus several hours effort), repaired the belt tensioner (another hour), disassembled the top works to clean & oil (another hour), and provided a reproduction 14" horn ($20). My out of pocket cost was $215 with at least five hours of labor. I sold it for $280 very late in the sale. I attempted to sell a Vic I for a friend and it was priced at $725. It had a nice original finish, the parts were all original right down to the slotted crank and little brass bell horn. The nickel
Re: [Phono-L] CAPS
I can see Ron's point, but how many people actually see such buys locally? I have an extensive collection of advertising signs but have never even found one locally (well I have found a couple at a quarterly antique show full of out of town dealers in my city). And to find a $1500 lamp phonograph seems like a very unlikely occurance. But, things do come up occasionally for better deals at estate sales and such. I can't see how you could really fill out much of a collection with local buys. At least not in my area. Without knowing others that bring things to my attention and access to the quality that are at the shows, I wouldn't have much of anything. So, yes it would be wonderful to find everything locally for great prices. But, in my experience those deals are few and far between. Dan On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:40 AM, wrote: > I attended the Union show and agree with the fact that there was some pretty > nice stuff, but I don't necessarily agree that all the prices were all that > great (at least not for the stuff I would purchase). I have been looking > for a nice phonograph advertising sign for example. I saw one for around > $900+. I could have purchased it, but my less spontanous half (my wife :) ) > said I should hold off. Long story, short, I was able to find the exact > sign from a local individual who new what he had, but charged me only $275. > I also had been looking for a phonolamp. This is something the wife always > wanted. Again, with a little patience and waiting for the right individual, > I found one for $1500 in all original working condition! Not bad. Bottom > line, I find more and more that the shows do not necessarily provide the > best buys and things aren't that difficult to find if your patient. With > the economy as it is, there are more and more people looking to free things > up that they have held onto as they need the money. Thus, I go to the shows > to look and talk with folks, but do my shopping elsewhere or person to > person. > > just some personal experience...Ron > > -Original Message- > From: Daniel Melvin > To: Antique Phonograph List > Sent: Wed, Aug 18, 2010 11:16 am > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS > > I did not attend CAPS (even thought I did originaly plan to), but > after reading the comments it appears to me that the expierience very > much follows what was seen at the Union show in June. Tons of great > stuff, some of it for terrific prices, but very little actually sold. > It was a very slow show as far as selling went for many dealers. I > really believe we are seeing the effects of the economy and fear of > spending. I don't think it really had much at all to do with CAPS > itself. I think it's just the way things are going right now and that > it will turn around. So, it's been a slow year. That's all it is. It > isn't an issue of the hobby or the shows that is keeping folks from > buying. It's just fear of the unknown. > > My 2 cents... > > Dan > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:52 AM, DeeDee Blais wrote: >> >> I'm glad to have an open discussion about the sale and I think it's > > healthy. >> >> The club did a great job. There were plenty of sellers providing a > > variety of >> >> items at very good prices. It was simply a buyers market and buyers > > did not >> >> open their billfolds very often. I thought attendance was OK and I'm > > glad to >> >> read that it was a bit higher than last year. I noticed new faces > > late into the >> >> sale. I did close a couple of sales but it was difficult and > > probably not worth >> >> the effort. The sale of my Edison Standard B (2 min only) was a good > > example. I >> >> paid $175 for the machine, refinished the case (decal & materials > > about $20 plus >> >> several hours effort), repaired the belt tensioner (another hour), > > disassembled >> >> the top works to clean & oil (another hour), and provided a > > reproduction 14" >> >> horn ($20). My out of pocket cost was $215 with at least five hours > > of labor. I >> >> sold it for $280 very late in the sale. I attempted to sell a Vic I > > for a friend >> >> and it was priced at $725. It had a nice original finish, the parts > > were all >> >> original right down to the slotted crank and little brass bell horn. > > The nickel >> >> finish on the old elbow and tone arm were not great but at $725, the > > machine >> >> should have flown out of the sale. The price was prominently > > displayed but >> >> buyers did not eve
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I agree with your comments Abe. I am one of those "purpose" buyers and get very frustrated that items I seek are sometimes already sold when I get into the show. I don't get the early pass or anything, but I can briskly walk the aisles and find something I would have paid X amount more than it already sold for, but it was either traded or sold outright to one of the other dealers prior to opening the show to the general public. I'm not much of a fan of the "retail" part of the shows.Ron -Original Message- From: Abe Feder To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Wed, Aug 18, 2010 1:30 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS Hi All, While my view of the show was a short one-I drove in from Mesa Az. with my wife to pick up a machine that I had bought from CL in Portland that Jerry was kind enough to go look at and haul to the show-and turned around in an hour or so and drove back-I think it is just a reflection of what is taking place in the economy. While I do art restoration I do own a retail picture frame and art shop and I can tell you business stinks!. It has for 3 years and I think it will for at least 3 more. The "retail" side of this show is just Sunday and while some machines may change hands before and there may have been a lot of good ones at the show that is not a true indication of what has taken place. Sunday is. That is when someone who may have a casual interest in just getting a machine, or who has just gotten into the hobby is going to show up and "shop". I know that the dealers and hobbyists that I talked to at around 1:30 or so said that they had sold some small stuff and that makes sense it fits what is taking place on the street. Here in Az. CL has exploded with common machines that people have listed because they need to sell stuff to get some money or they are leaving to get work and they don't want to haul stuff that they do not use or need. I had some money to spend- that I had saved during the year but I was already tired and when we got the credenza loaded into my wife's Jeep Liberty there was no room anyway. There was a really nice-God Forbid Me-Zenith radio that I would have bought but I had no room. But what took place at the show is what is taking place at my shop. There are no "causal" buyers coming in anymore-but there are still "purpose" buyers out there and you just have to hope that one comes your way. Next year I will come again-maybe get a table but the show was a good one and we just have to keep at it. I really liked the fact that there were some good machines there and a fair number of them as well. But as I said before collectors and dealers selling to each other does not tell the story-the show is spot on to our economy. Abe Feder On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:01 AM, harvey kravitz wrote: I have been going to CAPS since 2002, and always had a blast there. I didn't attend CAPS this year. My friend had too many obligations. Yes, the economy is bad for sellers because people are unsure about their finances. I did poorly at the Salem show, and the recent show in Seattle. I did buy some great things there. As I see it, I'm not in this hobby for the money. I just enjoy working on phonographs and listening to records. I sell at fair prices, and I am not going to give them away. I'll wait until the economy gets better and try again. Like so many others mentioned before, I go to these shows for the fellowship, gaining knowledge, and passing knowledge. If I sell something, fine. If not, oh well. At least I had a good time being among old friends and making new ones. Harvey Kravitz From: Daniel Melvin To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Wed, August 18, 2010 9:15:57 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS I did not attend CAPS (even thought I did originaly plan to), but after reading the comments it appears to me that the expierience very much follows what was seen at the Union show in June. Tons of great stuff, some of it for terrific prices, but very little actually sold. It was a very slow show as far as selling went for many dealers. I really believe we are seeing the effects of the economy and fear of spending. I don't think it really had much at all to do with CAPS itself. I think it's just the way things are going right now and that it will turn around. So, it's been a slow year. That's all it is. It isn't an issue of the hobby or the shows that is keeping folks from buying. It's just fear of the unknown. My 2 cents... Dan On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:52 AM, DeeDee Blais wrote: > I'm glad to have an open discussion about the sale and I think it's healthy. > The club did a great job. There were plenty of sellers providing a variety of > items at very good prices. It was simply a buyers market and buyers did not > open their billfol
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I attended the Union show and agree with the fact that there was some pretty nice stuff, but I don't necessarily agree that all the prices were all that great (at least not for the stuff I would purchase). I have been looking for a nice phonograph advertising sign for example. I saw one for around $900+. I could have purchased it, but my less spontanous half (my wife :) ) said I should hold off. Long story, short, I was able to find the exact sign from a local individual who new what he had, but charged me only $275. I also had been looking for a phonolamp. This is something the wife always wanted. Again, with a little patience and waiting for the right individual, I found one for $1500 in all original working condition! Not bad. Bottom line, I find more and more that the shows do not necessarily provide the best buys and things aren't that difficult to find if your patient. With the economy as it is, there are more and more people looking to free things up that they have held onto as they need the money. Thus, I go to the shows to look and talk with folks, but do my shopping elsewhere or person to person. just some personal experience...Ron -Original Message- From: Daniel Melvin To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Wed, Aug 18, 2010 11:16 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS I did not attend CAPS (even thought I did originaly plan to), but after reading the comments it appears to me that the expierience very much follows what was seen at the Union show in June. Tons of great stuff, some of it for terrific prices, but very little actually sold. It was a very slow show as far as selling went for many dealers. I really believe we are seeing the effects of the economy and fear of spending. I don't think it really had much at all to do with CAPS itself. I think it's just the way things are going right now and that it will turn around. So, it's been a slow year. That's all it is. It isn't an issue of the hobby or the shows that is keeping folks from buying. It's just fear of the unknown. My 2 cents... Dan On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:52 AM, DeeDee Blais wrote: I'm glad to have an open discussion about the sale and I think it's healthy. The club did a great job. There were plenty of sellers providing a variety of items at very good prices. It was simply a buyers market and buyers did not open their billfolds very often. I thought attendance was OK and I'm glad to read that it was a bit higher than last year. I noticed new faces late into the sale. I did close a couple of sales but it was difficult and probably not worth the effort. The sale of my Edison Standard B (2 min only) was a good example. I paid $175 for the machine, refinished the case (decal & materials about $20 plus several hours effort), repaired the belt tensioner (another hour), disassembled the top works to clean & oil (another hour), and provided a reproduction 14" horn ($20). My out of pocket cost was $215 with at least five hours of labor. I sold it for $280 very late in the sale. I attempted to sell a Vic I for a friend and it was priced at $725. It had a nice original finish, the parts were all original right down to the slotted crank and little brass bell horn. The nickel finish on the old elbow and tone arm were not great but at $725, the machine should have flown out of the sale. The price was prominently displayed but buyers did not even make an offer. You can't close a sale if there's no sale. Is there anyone on this list with a nice Vic 1 that they'd sell for that amount? The buyers were just not buying. I'll be back next year and hope things are better. Thanks to CAPS for a great effort and thanks to the vendors for a good selection. Thanks to the buyers... well,thanks for nearly nothing! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
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Hi All, While my view of the show was a short one-I drove in from Mesa Az. with my wife to pick up a machine that I had bought from CL in Portland that Jerry was kind enough to go look at and haul to the show-and turned around in an hour or so and drove back-I think it is just a reflection of what is taking place in the economy. While I do art restoration I do own a retail picture frame and art shop and I can tell you business stinks!. It has for 3 years and I think it will for at least 3 more. The "retail" side of this show is just Sunday and while some machines may change hands before and there may have been a lot of good ones at the show that is not a true indication of what has taken place. Sunday is. That is when someone who may have a casual interest in just getting a machine, or who has just gotten into the hobby is going to show up and "shop". I know that the dealers and hobbyists that I talked to at around 1:30 or so said that they had sold some small stuff and that makes sense it fits what is taking place on the street. Here in Az. CL has exploded with common machines that people have listed because they need to sell stuff to get some money or they are leaving to get work and they don't want to haul stuff that they do not use or need. I had some money to spend- that I had saved during the year but I was already tired and when we got the credenza loaded into my wife's Jeep Liberty there was no room anyway. There was a really nice-God Forbid Me-Zenith radio that I would have bought but I had no room. But what took place at the show is what is taking place at my shop. There are no "causal" buyers coming in anymore-but there are still "purpose" buyers out there and you just have to hope that one comes your way. Next year I will come again-maybe get a table but the show was a good one and we just have to keep at it. I really liked the fact that there were some good machines there and a fair number of them as well. But as I said before collectors and dealers selling to each other does not tell the story-the show is spot on to our economy. Abe Feder On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:01 AM, harvey kravitz wrote: > I have been going to CAPS since 2002, and always had a blast there. I > didn't > attend CAPS this year. My friend had too many obligations. Yes, the > economy is > bad for sellers because people are unsure about their finances. I did > poorly at > the Salem show, and the recent show in Seattle. I did buy some great things > there. As I see it, I'm not in this hobby for the money. I just enjoy > working on > phonographs and listening to records. I sell at fair prices, and I am not > going > to give them away. I'll wait until the economy gets better and try again. > Like > so many others mentioned before, I go to these shows for the fellowship, > gaining > knowledge, and passing knowledge. If I sell something, fine. If not, oh > well. At > least I had a good time being among old friends and making new ones. > > Harvey Kravitz > > > > > ________ > From: Daniel Melvin > To: Antique Phonograph List > Sent: Wed, August 18, 2010 9:15:57 AM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS > > I did not attend CAPS (even thought I did originaly plan to), but > after reading the comments it appears to me that the expierience very > much follows what was seen at the Union show in June. Tons of great > stuff, some of it for terrific prices, but very little actually sold. > It was a very slow show as far as selling went for many dealers. I > really believe we are seeing the effects of the economy and fear of > spending. I don't think it really had much at all to do with CAPS > itself. I think it's just the way things are going right now and that > it will turn around. So, it's been a slow year. That's all it is. It > isn't an issue of the hobby or the shows that is keeping folks from > buying. It's just fear of the unknown. > > My 2 cents... > > Dan > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:52 AM, DeeDee Blais > wrote: > > I'm glad to have an open discussion about the sale and I think it's > healthy. > > The club did a great job. There were plenty of sellers providing a > variety of > > items at very good prices. It was simply a buyers market and buyers did > not > > open their billfolds very often. I thought attendance was OK and I'm > glad to > > read that it was a bit higher than last year. I noticed new faces late > into > the > > sale. I did close a couple of sales but it was difficult and probably > not > >worth > > the effort. The sale of my Edison Standard B (2 min only) was a good > example. > > I > > paid $175 for the machine, refinished the case (decal & mater
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I have been going to CAPS since 2002, and always had a blast there. I didn't attend CAPS this year. My friend had too many obligations. Yes, the economy is bad for sellers because people are unsure about their finances. I did poorly at the Salem show, and the recent show in Seattle. I did buy some great things there. As I see it, I'm not in this hobby for the money. I just enjoy working on phonographs and listening to records. I sell at fair prices, and I am not going to give them away. I'll wait until the economy gets better and try again. Like so many others mentioned before, I go to these shows for the fellowship, gaining knowledge, and passing knowledge. If I sell something, fine. If not, oh well. At least I had a good time being among old friends and making new ones. Harvey Kravitz From: Daniel Melvin To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Wed, August 18, 2010 9:15:57 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS I did not attend CAPS (even thought I did originaly plan to), but after reading the comments it appears to me that the expierience very much follows what was seen at the Union show in June. Tons of great stuff, some of it for terrific prices, but very little actually sold. It was a very slow show as far as selling went for many dealers. I really believe we are seeing the effects of the economy and fear of spending. I don't think it really had much at all to do with CAPS itself. I think it's just the way things are going right now and that it will turn around. So, it's been a slow year. That's all it is. It isn't an issue of the hobby or the shows that is keeping folks from buying. It's just fear of the unknown. My 2 cents... Dan On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:52 AM, DeeDee Blais wrote: > I'm glad to have an open discussion about the sale and I think it's healthy. > The club did a great job. There were plenty of sellers providing a variety of > items at very good prices. It was simply a buyers market and buyers did not > open their billfolds very often. I thought attendance was OK and I'm glad to > read that it was a bit higher than last year. I noticed new faces late into the > sale. I did close a couple of sales but it was difficult and probably not >worth > the effort. The sale of my Edison Standard B (2 min only) was a good example. > I > paid $175 for the machine, refinished the case (decal & materials about $20 >plus > several hours effort), repaired the belt tensioner (another hour), disassembled > the top works to clean & oil (another hour), and provided a reproduction 14" > horn ($20). My out of pocket cost was $215 with at least five hours of labor. > I > sold it for $280 very late in the sale. I attempted to sell a Vic I for a >friend > and it was priced at $725. It had a nice original finish, the parts were all > original right down to the slotted crank and little brass bell horn. The nickel > finish on the old elbow and tone arm were not great but at $725, the machine > should have flown out of the sale. The price was prominently displayed but > buyers did not even make an offer. You can't close a sale if there's no sale. > Is there anyone on this list with a nice Vic 1 that they'd sell for that > amount? The buyers were just not buying. I'll be back next year and hope things > are better. Thanks to CAPS for a great effort and thanks to the vendors for a > good selection. Thanks to the buyers... well,thanks for nearly nothing! > > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
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I did not attend CAPS (even thought I did originaly plan to), but after reading the comments it appears to me that the expierience very much follows what was seen at the Union show in June. Tons of great stuff, some of it for terrific prices, but very little actually sold. It was a very slow show as far as selling went for many dealers. I really believe we are seeing the effects of the economy and fear of spending. I don't think it really had much at all to do with CAPS itself. I think it's just the way things are going right now and that it will turn around. So, it's been a slow year. That's all it is. It isn't an issue of the hobby or the shows that is keeping folks from buying. It's just fear of the unknown. My 2 cents... Dan On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:52 AM, DeeDee Blais wrote: > I'm glad to have an open discussion about the sale and I think it's healthy. > The club did a great job. There were plenty of sellers providing a variety of > items at very good prices. It was simply a buyers market and buyers did not > open their billfolds very often. I thought attendance was OK and I'm glad to > read that it was a bit higher than last year. I noticed new faces late into > the > sale. I did close a couple of sales but it was difficult and probably not > worth > the effort. The sale of my Edison Standard B (2 min only) was a good example. > I > paid $175 for the machine, refinished the case (decal & materials about $20 > plus > several hours effort), repaired the belt tensioner (another hour), > disassembled > the top works to clean & oil (another hour), and provided a reproduction 14" > horn ($20). My out of pocket cost was $215 with at least five hours of labor. > I > sold it for $280 very late in the sale. I attempted to sell a Vic I for a > friend > and it was priced at $725. It had a nice original finish, the parts were all > original right down to the slotted crank and little brass bell horn. The > nickel > finish on the old elbow and tone arm were not great but at $725, the machine > should have flown out of the sale. The price was prominently displayed but > buyers did not even make an offer. You can't close a sale if there's no sale. > Is there anyone on this list with a nice Vic 1 that they'd sell for that > amount? The buyers were just not buying. I'll be back next year and hope > things > are better. Thanks to CAPS for a great effort and thanks to the vendors for a > good selection. Thanks to the buyers... well,thanks for nearly nothing! > > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
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It's called a depression. DeeDee Blais wrote: I'm glad to have an open discussion about the sale and I think it's healthy. The club did a great job. There were plenty of sellers providing a variety of items at very good prices. It was simply a buyers market and buyers did not open their billfolds very often. I thought attendance was OK and I'm glad to read that it was a bit higher than last year. I noticed new faces late into the sale. I did close a couple of sales but it was difficult and probably not worth the effort. The sale of my Edison Standard B (2 min only) was a good example. I paid $175 for the machine, refinished the case (decal & materials about $20 plus several hours effort), repaired the belt tensioner (another hour), disassembled the top works to clean & oil (another hour), and provided a reproduction 14" horn ($20). My out of pocket cost was $215 with at least five hours of labor. I sold it for $280 very late in the sale. I attempted to sell a Vic I for a friend and it was priced at $725. It had a nice original finish, the parts were all original right down to the slotted crank and little brass bell horn. The nickel finish on the old elbow and tone arm were not great but at $725, the machine should have flown out of the sale. The price was prominently displayed but buyers did not even make an offer. You can't close a sale if there's no sale. Is there anyone on this list with a nice Vic 1 that they'd sell for that amount? The buyers were just not buying. I'll be back next year and hope things are better. Thanks to CAPS for a great effort and thanks to the vendors for a good selection. Thanks to the buyers... well,thanks for nearly nothing! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
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I'm glad to have an open discussion about the sale and I think it's healthy. The club did a great job. There were plenty of sellers providing a variety of items at very good prices. It was simply a buyers market and buyers did not open their billfolds very often. I thought attendance was OK and I'm glad to read that it was a bit higher than last year. I noticed new faces late into the sale. I did close a couple of sales but it was difficult and probably not worth the effort. The sale of my Edison Standard B (2 min only) was a good example. I paid $175 for the machine, refinished the case (decal & materials about $20 plus several hours effort), repaired the belt tensioner (another hour), disassembled the top works to clean & oil (another hour), and provided a reproduction 14" horn ($20). My out of pocket cost was $215 with at least five hours of labor. I sold it for $280 very late in the sale. I attempted to sell a Vic I for a friend and it was priced at $725. It had a nice original finish, the parts were all original right down to the slotted crank and little brass bell horn. The nickel finish on the old elbow and tone arm were not great but at $725, the machine should have flown out of the sale. The price was prominently displayed but buyers did not even make an offer. You can't close a sale if there's no sale. Is there anyone on this list with a nice Vic 1 that they'd sell for that amount? The buyers were just not buying. I'll be back next year and hope things are better. Thanks to CAPS for a great effort and thanks to the vendors for a good selection. Thanks to the buyers... well,thanks for nearly nothing! ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
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Payment via Paypal may be sent to www.ca-ph...@mail.com or for faster service, payment can be sent to jl...@aol.com. Best to all, George P. -Original Message- From: Jack Whelan To: Phono-L Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 10:12 pm Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS membership via PayPal George, What e-mail should be used to make Payment to CAPS via PayPal? Thank you, Jack Whelan > Anyone wishing to subscribe to The Sound Box may do so my logging onto the website Steve provided: > > www.ca-phono.org. > > ...and pay online with Paypal. Otherwise, send a check to the address given > on the website. All back issues are still available as well. > > George P. > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Steven Medved > To: Phono-l > Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 7:19 pm > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Brass Mandrels... some idle thoughts... > > > > Hi Harvey, > > George must have read the The Edison "Home" Phonograph, 1896 - 1901 in the Sept > 2006 CAPS The Sound Box. This was a wonderful article well worth the price of > the annual subscription. I still refer to this article for the most valuable > information it provides. > > I cannot say enough about how enjoyable The Sound Box is to read. > > Steve > > > Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 16:01:02 -0700 > > From: harveykrav...@yahoo.com > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Brass Mandrels... some idle thoughts... > > > > Hi George, > > Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it. > > All the best. > > Harvey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "gpaul2...@aol.com" > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 2:00:14 PM > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Brass Mandrels... some idle thoughts... > > > > > > Harvey, > > > > An Edison "Home" numbered in the 3400 range would date from February 1898. As > I noted yesterday on the ATM board, "Homes" began appearing with > nickel-plated > mandrels in October/November 1898. Hope this helps - - > > > > George P. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: harvey kravitz > > To: Antique Phonograph List > > Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 3:09 pm > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Brass Mandrels... some idle thoughts... > > > > > > Hi Al, > > Thank you for all your help.I really learned a lot from you. I have an Edison > > suit case Home with a 3400's serial number. Do you know if it had a brass > > mandrel? It was converted into a 2/4 min. machine either by the original owner > > > or a collector. If this indeed had a brass mandrel, I'd love to get it back to > > > original. > > Thanks, > > Harvey Kravitz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "clockworkh...@aol.com" > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 4:04:46 AM > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Brass Mandrels... some idle thoughts... > > > > > > Greetings Harvey: > > > > The solid brass mandrels were on the early M and E electric machines. They > > were press fit onto the steel mandrel shaft. Even in those days solid brass > > of that diameter was expensive so few are found to be solid after 1896. As > > the M topworks was adapted for the Springmotor machines the brass mandrel > > became a hollow cylinder with brass ends pressed in. It was a thick wall > > brass which still carried some weight. The smaller diameter end was > > indented > > to allow for the needle bearing guard on the endgate. In 1901 the nickel > > plated thin walled drawn brass mandrel allowed for a drastic reduction in > brass > > costs and reduced the number of machining operations. The indented end > > continued for the M and E but the new Triumph line did not require it. For > the > > rest of the Triumph production the drawn brass mandrel continued to serve > > well. > > > > The Home phonograph had the thick walled hollow brass mandrel with end > > pieces almost from the earliest machines. Only the very lowest serial numbers > > > are occasionally found with a solid mandrel and the indented end. The Home > > had that thick walled brass mandrel for a long time but wall thickness was > > reduced as nickel plating was added. The draw
[Phono-L] CAPS membership via PayPal
George, What e-mail should be used to make Payment to CAPS via PayPal? Thank you, Jack Whelan > Anyone wishing to subscribe to The Sound Box may do so my logging onto the > website Steve provided: > > www.ca-phono.org. > > ...and pay online with Paypal. Otherwise, send a check to the address given > on the website. All back issues are still available as well. > > George P. > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Steven Medved > To: Phono-l > Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 7:19 pm > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Brass Mandrels... some idle thoughts... > > > > Hi Harvey, > > George must have read the The Edison "Home" Phonograph, 1896 - 1901 in the > Sept > 2006 CAPS The Sound Box. This was a wonderful article well worth the price of > the annual subscription. I still refer to this article for the most valuable > information it provides. > > I cannot say enough about how enjoyable The Sound Box is to read. > > Steve > > > Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 16:01:02 -0700 > > From: harveykrav...@yahoo.com > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Brass Mandrels... some idle thoughts... > > > > Hi George, > > Thanks for the help. I really appreciate it. > > All the best. > > Harvey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "gpaul2...@aol.com" > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 2:00:14 PM > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Brass Mandrels... some idle thoughts... > > > > > > Harvey, > > > > An Edison "Home" numbered in the 3400 range would date from February 1898. > > As > I noted yesterday on the ATM board, "Homes" began appearing with > nickel-plated > mandrels in October/November 1898. Hope this helps - - > > > > George P. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: harvey kravitz > > To: Antique Phonograph List > > Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 3:09 pm > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Brass Mandrels... some idle thoughts... > > > > > > Hi Al, > > Thank you for all your help.I really learned a lot from you. I have an > > Edison > > suit case Home with a 3400's serial number. Do you know if it had a brass > > mandrel? It was converted into a 2/4 min. machine either by the original > > owner > > > or a collector. If this indeed had a brass mandrel, I'd love to get it back > > to > > > original. > > Thanks, > > Harvey Kravitz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "clockworkh...@aol.com" > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 4:04:46 AM > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Brass Mandrels... some idle thoughts... > > > > > > Greetings Harvey: > > > > The solid brass mandrels were on the early M and E electric machines. They > > were press fit onto the steel mandrel shaft. Even in those days solid brass > > of that diameter was expensive so few are found to be solid after 1896. As > > the M topworks was adapted for the Springmotor machines the brass mandrel > > became a hollow cylinder with brass ends pressed in. It was a thick wall > > brass which still carried some weight. The smaller diameter end was > > indented > > to allow for the needle bearing guard on the endgate. In 1901 the nickel > > plated thin walled drawn brass mandrel allowed for a drastic reduction in > brass > > costs and reduced the number of machining operations. The indented end > > continued for the M and E but the new Triumph line did not require it. For > the > > rest of the Triumph production the drawn brass mandrel continued to serve > > well. > > > > The Home phonograph had the thick walled hollow brass mandrel with end > > pieces almost from the earliest machines. Only the very lowest serial > > numbers > > > are occasionally found with a solid mandrel and the indented end. The Home > > had that thick walled brass mandrel for a long time but wall thickness was > > reduced as nickel plating was added. The drawn thin brass mandrel was > > introduced before the 1901 new style cabinet change. The length of the > > mandrel > > > shaft remained the same until the Model B was introduced. > > > > SADLY, there are sellers who swap out the brass mandrel for a later thin > > walled nickeled mandrel. They then charge more for the brass mandrel than > > they paid for the whole phonograph. So, you can find a Home with a serial > > number below 9000 with a shiny nickeled mandrel that should not be there. > And > > further along there will be an eBay listing for the original brass mandrel > > for a higher price than the mutt machine. Gr ! ! ! > > > > I hope that helps. I am away from my research materials so I only > > guarantee the above to be 50% correct... > > > > Al > > > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > P
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Oh, thanks for reminding me!!! I need to make one for myself too. John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: harvey kravitz Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:46:46 To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show Hi John, We sure did speak. You were going to email me a copy of an Edison Lid Label, let Us Not Forget. I met and conversed with you in the past. I was working with Stan Stanford and Jerry Blais. Congrats on your Monarch. It's a nice machine I had a great time. Harvey P. Kravitz --- On Mon, 8/17/09, john robles wrote: From: john robles Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 10:31 PM Hi Harvey - did we speak? I was selling with Mike Sorter at the table to his right. We have been doing the show together for something like 8 or 9 years. I think you introduced yourself, did you not? Sorry to be so vague, I met a LOT of people at the show! John Robles --- On Mon, 8/17/09, harvey kravitz wrote: From: harvey kravitz Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 6:33 PM I had a really good time at the CAPS show.I saw a lot of old friends and met some new ones. I bought some parts and picked up a couple of machines. I did get that really cool Busy Bee Columbia Q client machine from Mike Sorter. It's an excellent machine at a good price. Thanks Mike. I really enjoyed the banquet and presentation. I've been involved wirh CAPS since 2002, and each year is always better than the previous year. Harvey P. Kravitz --- On Mon, 8/17/09, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: From: john9...@pacbell.net Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 2:21 PM Ok, I will wait to hear from you on it. John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Abe Feder Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:08:00 To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show I think that Pat was the person who brought in the Credenza case and had it in the lobby on Sat-$1000 and the top would have had to be reskined and a lot of touch up work to be done. I do art restoration for a living so I can do the work-but it would take a ton to bring it back. The leather was in good shape-but I don't have to have that. I just got a Amberola V with matching cabinet in mahogany from a client-I am not sure that I need 2 though my other is in oak. The pinstriping and paint is about the same on both80-85% but the mahogany needs to be redone as it has crazed to about 60 grit sandpaper. It my take a while but I can let you know what I am going to do after I restore the mahogany case and cabinet. Abe On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:07 PM, wrote: > I want an amberola V so bad...I once had one and should never have let it > go! > Pat is on the oposite end aisle from me, he has two tables usually..I think > he was to the right of Jerry Blais. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Abe Feder > > Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:52:30 > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > John, was Pat at the show? some one and I can never remember his name-I > bought an Ambrola V from him at my first CAPS show had a chroma leather > crendza case at the show and it was a mess.; He was asking a $1000 and > while > I could bring it back to life it would be a ton of work and I would still > need to find all the parts. If that was not him could you get me his phone# > or email address. > Thx in advance > Abe > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, wrote: > > > Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!! > > John > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Abe Feder > > > > Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:22:06 > > To: Antique Phonograph List > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > > > > John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more- I have bought > > cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will have > > to > > work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking for > a > > really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is selling > > one in driving distance from Az I am up for it. > > Thx sorry I missed you > > Abe > > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles > wrote: > > > > > Hi Abe > > > I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the snack > > > bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the smooth oak > > horn > > >
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Hi John, We sure did speak. You were going to email me a copy of an Edison Lid Label, let Us Not Forget. I met and conversed with you in the past. I was working with Stan Stanford and Jerry Blais. Congrats on your Monarch. It's a nice machine I had a great time. Harvey P. Kravitz --- On Mon, 8/17/09, john robles wrote: From: john robles Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 10:31 PM Hi Harvey - did we speak? I was selling with Mike Sorter at the table to his right. We have been doing the show together for something like 8 or 9 years. I think you introduced yourself, did you not? Sorry to be so vague, I met a LOT of people at the show! John Robles --- On Mon, 8/17/09, harvey kravitz wrote: From: harvey kravitz Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 6:33 PM I had a really good time at the CAPS show.I saw a lot of old friends and met some new ones. I bought some parts and picked up a couple of machines. I did get that really cool Busy Bee Columbia Q client machine from Mike Sorter. It's an excellent machine at a good price. Thanks Mike. I really enjoyed the banquet and presentation. I've been involved wirh CAPS since 2002, and each year is always better than the previous year. Harvey P. Kravitz --- On Mon, 8/17/09, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: From: john9...@pacbell.net Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 2:21 PM Ok, I will wait to hear from you on it. John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Abe Feder Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:08:00 To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show I think that Pat was the person who brought in the Credenza case and had it in the lobby on Sat-$1000 and the top would have had to be reskined and a lot of touch up work to be done. I do art restoration for a living so I can do the work-but it would take a ton to bring it back. The leather was in good shape-but I don't have to have that. I just got a Amberola V with matching cabinet in mahogany from a client-I am not sure that I need 2 though my other is in oak. The pinstriping and paint is about the same on both80-85% but the mahogany needs to be redone as it has crazed to about 60 grit sandpaper. It my take a while but I can let you know what I am going to do after I restore the mahogany case and cabinet. Abe On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:07 PM, wrote: > I want an amberola V so bad...I once had one and should never have let it > go! > Pat is on the oposite end aisle from me, he has two tables usually..I think > he was to the right of Jerry Blais. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Abe Feder > > Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:52:30 > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > John, was Pat at the show? some one and I can never remember his name-I > bought an Ambrola V from him at my first CAPS show had a chroma leather > crendza case at the show and it was a mess.; He was asking a $1000 and > while > I could bring it back to life it would be a ton of work and I would still > need to find all the parts. If that was not him could you get me his phone# > or email address. > Thx in advance > Abe > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, wrote: > > > Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!! > > John > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Abe Feder > > > > Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:22:06 > > To: Antique Phonograph List > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > > > > John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more- I have bought > > cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will have > > to > > work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking for > a > > really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is selling > > one in driving distance from Az I am up for it. > > Thx sorry I missed you > > Abe > > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles > wrote: > > > > > Hi Abe > > > I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the snack > > > bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the smooth oak > > horn > > > (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike > Sorter, > > he > > > was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two tables, > then > > > Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the
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Hi Harvey - did we speak? I was selling with Mike Sorter at the table to his right. We have been doing the show together for something like 8 or 9 years. I think you introduced yourself, did you not? Sorry to be so vague, I met a LOT of people at the show! John Robles --- On Mon, 8/17/09, harvey kravitz wrote: From: harvey kravitz Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 6:33 PM I had a really good time at the CAPS show.I saw a lot of old friends and met some new ones. I bought some parts and picked up a couple of machines. I did get that really cool Busy Bee Columbia Q client machine from Mike Sorter. It's an excellent machine at a good price. Thanks Mike. I really enjoyed the banquet and presentation. I've been involved wirh CAPS since 2002, and each year is always better than the previous year. Harvey P. Kravitz --- On Mon, 8/17/09, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: From: john9...@pacbell.net Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 2:21 PM Ok, I will wait to hear from you on it. John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Abe Feder Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:08:00 To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show I think that Pat was the person who brought in the Credenza case and had it in the lobby on Sat-$1000 and the top would have had to be reskined and a lot of touch up work to be done. I do art restoration for a living so I can do the work-but it would take a ton to bring it back. The leather was in good shape-but I don't have to have that. I just got a Amberola V with matching cabinet in mahogany from a client-I am not sure that I need 2 though my other is in oak. The pinstriping and paint is about the same on both80-85% but the mahogany needs to be redone as it has crazed to about 60 grit sandpaper. It my take a while but I can let you know what I am going to do after I restore the mahogany case and cabinet. Abe On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:07 PM, wrote: > I want an amberola V so bad...I once had one and should never have let it > go! > Pat is on the oposite end aisle from me, he has two tables usually..I think > he was to the right of Jerry Blais. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Abe Feder > > Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:52:30 > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > John, was Pat at the show? some one and I can never remember his name-I > bought an Ambrola V from him at my first CAPS show had a chroma leather > crendza case at the show and it was a mess.; He was asking a $1000 and > while > I could bring it back to life it would be a ton of work and I would still > need to find all the parts. If that was not him could you get me his phone# > or email address. > Thx in advance > Abe > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, wrote: > > > Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!! > > John > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Abe Feder > > > > Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:22:06 > > To: Antique Phonograph List > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > > > > John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more- I have bought > > cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will have > > to > > work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking for > a > > really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is selling > > one in driving distance from Az I am up for it. > > Thx sorry I missed you > > Abe > > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles > wrote: > > > > > Hi Abe > > > I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the snack > > > bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the smooth oak > > horn > > > (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike > Sorter, > > he > > > was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two tables, > then > > > Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the chairs > > and > > > tables). Were you next to Stan Spate? > > > I am sorry to have missed you! > > > John > > > > > > --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: Abe Feder > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > > > Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM > > > > > > >
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I had a really good time at the CAPS show.I saw a lot of old friends and met some new ones. I bought some parts and picked up a couple of machines. I did get that really cool Busy Bee Columbia Q client machine from Mike Sorter. It's an excellent machine at a good price. Thanks Mike. I really enjoyed the banquet and presentation. I've been involved wirh CAPS since 2002, and each year is always better than the previous year. Harvey P. Kravitz --- On Mon, 8/17/09, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: From: john9...@pacbell.net Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 2:21 PM Ok, I will wait to hear from you on it. John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Abe Feder Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:08:00 To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show I think that Pat was the person who brought in the Credenza case and had it in the lobby on Sat-$1000 and the top would have had to be reskined and a lot of touch up work to be done. I do art restoration for a living so I can do the work-but it would take a ton to bring it back. The leather was in good shape-but I don't have to have that. I just got a Amberola V with matching cabinet in mahogany from a client-I am not sure that I need 2 though my other is in oak. The pinstriping and paint is about the same on both80-85% but the mahogany needs to be redone as it has crazed to about 60 grit sandpaper. It my take a while but I can let you know what I am going to do after I restore the mahogany case and cabinet. Abe On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:07 PM, wrote: > I want an amberola V so bad...I once had one and should never have let it > go! > Pat is on the oposite end aisle from me, he has two tables usually..I think > he was to the right of Jerry Blais. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Abe Feder > > Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:52:30 > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > John, was Pat at the show? some one and I can never remember his name-I > bought an Ambrola V from him at my first CAPS show had a chroma leather > crendza case at the show and it was a mess.; He was asking a $1000 and > while > I could bring it back to life it would be a ton of work and I would still > need to find all the parts. If that was not him could you get me his phone# > or email address. > Thx in advance > Abe > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, wrote: > > > Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!! > > John > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Abe Feder > > > > Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:22:06 > > To: Antique Phonograph List > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > > > > John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more- I have bought > > cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will have > > to > > work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking for > a > > really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is selling > > one in driving distance from Az I am up for it. > > Thx sorry I missed you > > Abe > > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles > wrote: > > > > > Hi Abe > > > I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the snack > > > bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the smooth oak > > horn > > > (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike > Sorter, > > he > > > was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two tables, > then > > > Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the chairs > > and > > > tables). Were you next to Stan Spate? > > > I am sorry to have missed you! > > > John > > > > > > --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: Abe Feder > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > > > Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM > > > > > > > > > Hi John, > > > were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the > dealers > > > list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I > wanted > > > to > > > tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up with Dan > > > Reed > > > And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold some > > > stuff > > > -it was
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Ok, I will wait to hear from you on it. John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Abe Feder Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:08:00 To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show I think that Pat was the person who brought in the Credenza case and had it in the lobby on Sat-$1000 and the top would have had to be reskined and a lot of touch up work to be done. I do art restoration for a living so I can do the work-but it would take a ton to bring it back. The leather was in good shape-but I don't have to have that. I just got a Amberola V with matching cabinet in mahogany from a client-I am not sure that I need 2 though my other is in oak. The pinstriping and paint is about the same on both80-85% but the mahogany needs to be redone as it has crazed to about 60 grit sandpaper. It my take a while but I can let you know what I am going to do after I restore the mahogany case and cabinet. Abe On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:07 PM, wrote: > I want an amberola V so bad...I once had one and should never have let it > go! > Pat is on the oposite end aisle from me, he has two tables usually..I think > he was to the right of Jerry Blais. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Abe Feder > > Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:52:30 > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > John, was Pat at the show? some one and I can never remember his name-I > bought an Ambrola V from him at my first CAPS show had a chroma leather > crendza case at the show and it was a mess.; He was asking a $1000 and > while > I could bring it back to life it would be a ton of work and I would still > need to find all the parts. If that was not him could you get me his phone# > or email address. > Thx in advance > Abe > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, wrote: > > > Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!! > > John > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Abe Feder > > > > Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:22:06 > > To: Antique Phonograph List > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > > > > John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more- I have bought > > cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will have > > to > > work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking for > a > > really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is selling > > one in driving distance from Az I am up for it. > > Thx sorry I missed you > > Abe > > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles > wrote: > > > > > Hi Abe > > > I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the snack > > > bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the smooth oak > > horn > > > (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike > Sorter, > > he > > > was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two tables, > then > > > Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the chairs > > and > > > tables). Were you next to Stan Spate? > > > I am sorry to have missed you! > > > John > > > > > > --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: Abe Feder > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > > > Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM > > > > > > > > > Hi John, > > > were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the > dealers > > > list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I > wanted > > > to > > > tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up with Dan > > > Reed > > > And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold some > > > stuff > > > -it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot to > sell > > > but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year. > > > Thx Abe Feder > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles > > wrote: > > > > > > > I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's > show > > > was > > > > a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was in > > > marked > > > > contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy who I > > > sell > > > > with
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I think that Pat was the person who brought in the Credenza case and had it in the lobby on Sat-$1000 and the top would have had to be reskined and a lot of touch up work to be done. I do art restoration for a living so I can do the work-but it would take a ton to bring it back. The leather was in good shape-but I don't have to have that. I just got a Amberola V with matching cabinet in mahogany from a client-I am not sure that I need 2 though my other is in oak. The pinstriping and paint is about the same on both80-85% but the mahogany needs to be redone as it has crazed to about 60 grit sandpaper. It my take a while but I can let you know what I am going to do after I restore the mahogany case and cabinet. Abe On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:07 PM, wrote: > I want an amberola V so bad...I once had one and should never have let it > go! > Pat is on the oposite end aisle from me, he has two tables usually..I think > he was to the right of Jerry Blais. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Abe Feder > > Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:52:30 > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > John, was Pat at the show? some one and I can never remember his name-I > bought an Ambrola V from him at my first CAPS show had a chroma leather > crendza case at the show and it was a mess.; He was asking a $1000 and > while > I could bring it back to life it would be a ton of work and I would still > need to find all the parts. If that was not him could you get me his phone# > or email address. > Thx in advance > Abe > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, wrote: > > > Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!! > > John > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Abe Feder > > > > Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:22:06 > > To: Antique Phonograph List > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > > > > John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more- I have bought > > cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will have > > to > > work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking for > a > > really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is selling > > one in driving distance from Az I am up for it. > > Thx sorry I missed you > > Abe > > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles > wrote: > > > > > Hi Abe > > > I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the snack > > > bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the smooth oak > > horn > > > (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike > Sorter, > > he > > > was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two tables, > then > > > Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the chairs > > and > > > tables). Were you next to Stan Spate? > > > I am sorry to have missed you! > > > John > > > > > > --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: Abe Feder > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > > > Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM > > > > > > > > > Hi John, > > > were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the > dealers > > > list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I > wanted > > > to > > > tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up with Dan > > > Reed > > > And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold some > > > stuff > > > -it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot to > sell > > > but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year. > > > Thx Abe Feder > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles > > wrote: > > > > > > > I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's > show > > > was > > > > a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was in > > > marked > > > > contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy who I > > > sell > > > > with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to the > > > show > > > > for at least the past three or four years! > > > > I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M wi
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I want an amberola V so bad...I once had one and should never have let it go! Pat is on the oposite end aisle from me, he has two tables usually..I think he was to the right of Jerry Blais. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Abe Feder Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:52:30 To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show John, was Pat at the show? some one and I can never remember his name-I bought an Ambrola V from him at my first CAPS show had a chroma leather crendza case at the show and it was a mess.; He was asking a $1000 and while I could bring it back to life it would be a ton of work and I would still need to find all the parts. If that was not him could you get me his phone# or email address. Thx in advance Abe On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, wrote: > Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!! > John > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Abe Feder > > Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:22:06 > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more- I have bought > cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will have > to > work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking for a > really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is selling > one in driving distance from Az I am up for it. > Thx sorry I missed you > Abe > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles wrote: > > > Hi Abe > > I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the snack > > bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the smooth oak > horn > > (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike Sorter, > he > > was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two tables, then > > Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the chairs > and > > tables). Were you next to Stan Spate? > > I am sorry to have missed you! > > John > > > > --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder wrote: > > > > > > From: Abe Feder > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > > Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM > > > > > > Hi John, > > were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the dealers > > list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I wanted > > to > > tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up with Dan > > Reed > > And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold some > > stuff > > -it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot to sell > > but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year. > > Thx Abe Feder > > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles > wrote: > > > > > I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's show > > was > > > a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was in > > marked > > > contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy who I > > sell > > > with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to the > > show > > > for at least the past three or four years! > > > I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with brass > > > belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price. It now > > sits > > > on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty > picture, > > I > > > must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down. > > > John Robles > > > > > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: Stan Stanford > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > > > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM > > > > > > > > > Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual. There were > > interesting > > > machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6 > phonographs > > > and many related small items.The entertainment for the Banquet as > > Scott > > > and Denise have described was superbas good as any I have seen over > > the > > > past 10 or 12 years. Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running the > > > projector. The precision with which they worked was amazing, and the > > > pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours
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Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!! John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Abe Feder Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:22:06 To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more- I have bought cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will have to work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking for a really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is selling one in driving distance from Az I am up for it. Thx sorry I missed you Abe On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles wrote: > Hi Abe > I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the snack > bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the smooth oak horn > (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike Sorter, he > was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two tables, then > Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the chairs and > tables). Were you next to Stan Spate? > I am sorry to have missed you! > John > > --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder wrote: > > > From: Abe Feder > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM > > > Hi John, > were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the dealers > list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I wanted > to > tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up with Dan > Reed > And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold some > stuff > -it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot to sell > but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year. > Thx Abe Feder > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles wrote: > > > I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's show > was > > a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was in > marked > > contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy who I > sell > > with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to the > show > > for at least the past three or four years! > > I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with brass > > belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price. It now > sits > > on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty picture, > I > > must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down. > > John Robles > > > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford wrote: > > > > > > From: Stan Stanford > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM > > > > > > Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual. There were > interesting > > machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6 phonographs > > and many related small items.The entertainment for the Banquet as > Scott > > and Denise have described was superbas good as any I have seen over > the > > past 10 or 12 years. Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running the > > projector. The precision with which they worked was amazing, and the > > pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours. In addition to all this > we > > heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to David > > Giovannoni. Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!! > > > > Stan Stanford, President > > Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society > > > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" < > > sdcorb...@earthlink.net> > > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > > > > > For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern > > > California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the show > > has > > > been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus > > reproducer) > > > for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains. Rare > > > machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for > sale. > > > One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00 each. I > > > overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to get > > down > > > here now. You wo
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John, was Pat at the show? some one and I can never remember his name-I bought an Ambrola V from him at my first CAPS show had a chroma leather crendza case at the show and it was a mess.; He was asking a $1000 and while I could bring it back to life it would be a ton of work and I would still need to find all the parts. If that was not him could you get me his phone# or email address. Thx in advance Abe On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, wrote: > Try Pat Jones- he usually has Credenzas. Sorry I missed you too!! > John > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Abe Feder > > Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:22:06 > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more- I have bought > cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will have > to > work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking for a > really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is selling > one in driving distance from Az I am up for it. > Thx sorry I missed you > Abe > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles wrote: > > > Hi Abe > > I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the snack > > bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the smooth oak > horn > > (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike Sorter, > he > > was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two tables, then > > Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the chairs > and > > tables). Were you next to Stan Spate? > > I am sorry to have missed you! > > John > > > > --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder wrote: > > > > > > From: Abe Feder > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > > Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM > > > > > > Hi John, > > were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the dealers > > list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I wanted > > to > > tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up with Dan > > Reed > > And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold some > > stuff > > -it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot to sell > > but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year. > > Thx Abe Feder > > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles > wrote: > > > > > I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's show > > was > > > a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was in > > marked > > > contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy who I > > sell > > > with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to the > > show > > > for at least the past three or four years! > > > I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with brass > > > belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price. It now > > sits > > > on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty > picture, > > I > > > must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down. > > > John Robles > > > > > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: Stan Stanford > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > > > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM > > > > > > > > > Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual. There were > > interesting > > > machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6 > phonographs > > > and many related small items.The entertainment for the Banquet as > > Scott > > > and Denise have described was superbas good as any I have seen over > > the > > > past 10 or 12 years. Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running the > > > projector. The precision with which they worked was amazing, and the > > > pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours. In addition to all this > > we > > > heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to David > > > Giovannoni. Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!! > > > > > > Stan Stanford, President > > > Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society > > > > > > > > > > > > - Origi
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John I must have walked by you a dozen times or more- I have bought cylinders from Mike before. I was between Mike and Jerry Bias-I will have to work harder at hooking up with you next year. By the way I am looking for a really nice Victor crendza in walnut if you know of anyone who is selling one in driving distance from Az I am up for it. Thx sorry I missed you Abe On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, john robles wrote: > Hi Abe > I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the snack > bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the smooth oak horn > (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike Sorter, he > was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two tables, then > Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the chairs and > tables). Were you next to Stan Spate? > I am sorry to have missed you! > John > > --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder wrote: > > > From: Abe Feder > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM > > > Hi John, > were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the dealers > list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I wanted > to > tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up with Dan > Reed > And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold some > stuff > -it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot to sell > but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year. > Thx Abe Feder > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles wrote: > > > I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's show > was > > a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was in > marked > > contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy who I > sell > > with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to the > show > > for at least the past three or four years! > > I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with brass > > belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price. It now > sits > > on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty picture, > I > > must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down. > > John Robles > > > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford wrote: > > > > > > From: Stan Stanford > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM > > > > > > Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual. There were > interesting > > machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6 phonographs > > and many related small items.The entertainment for the Banquet as > Scott > > and Denise have described was superbas good as any I have seen over > the > > past 10 or 12 years. Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running the > > projector. The precision with which they worked was amazing, and the > > pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours. In addition to all this > we > > heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to David > > Giovannoni. Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!! > > > > Stan Stanford, President > > Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society > > > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" < > > sdcorb...@earthlink.net> > > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > > > > > For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern > > > California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the show > > has > > > been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus > > reproducer) > > > for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains. Rare > > > machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for > sale. > > > One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00 each. I > > > overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to get > > down > > > here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was just > the > > > show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with 200 > > lots, > > > and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo presented &g
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Hi Abe I was at the third table from the end on the back wall (near the snack bar). I was the one that had the Victor Schoolhouse with the smooth oak horn (still have it, unfortunately - it didn't sell). I sell with Mike Sorter, he was a tall guy with a lot of homes and standards. We had two tables, then Nestor Guzman was at the last table nearest the kitchen (by the chairs and tables). Were you next to Stan Spate? I am sorry to have missed you! John --- On Sat, 8/15/09, Abe Feder wrote: From: Abe Feder Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 11:15 AM Hi John, were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the dealers list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up with Dan Reed And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold some stuff -it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot to sell but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year. Thx Abe Feder On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles wrote: > I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's show was > a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was in marked > contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy who I sell > with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to the show > for at least the past three or four years! > I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with brass > belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price. It now sits > on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty picture, I > must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down. > John Robles > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford wrote: > > > From: Stan Stanford > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM > > > Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual. There were interesting > machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6 phonographs > and many related small items. The entertainment for the Banquet as Scott > and Denise have described was superbas good as any I have seen over the > past 10 or 12 years. Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running the > projector. The precision with which they worked was amazing, and the > pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours. In addition to all this we > heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to David > Giovannoni. Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!! > > Stan Stanford, President > Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society > > > > - Original Message - From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" < > sdcorb...@earthlink.net> > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > > For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern > > California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the show > has > > been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus > reproducer) > > for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains. Rare > > machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for sale. > > One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00 each. I > > overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to get > down > > here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was just the > > show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with 200 > lots, > > and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo presented a > > range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector. Original > > glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels were > > changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and Laurel & > Hardy's > > immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a difficult > > time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or watching > him > > crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano accompaniment. > > The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, we heard > a > > concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine. Wow, > what > > volume! > > Mark your calendars for next August! > > > > -Scott & Denise Corbett > > > > -Original Message- > > From: phono-l-
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Hi John, were the heck were you I kept looking and did not see you on the dealers list. I was right next to the "Mike-the Doctor is an and his son.I wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed the HMV I got from you-I hooked up with Dan Reed And talked a bit bith with Jerry Bias but did not see you. I sold some stuff -it was my first time doing that- but while I did not have a lot to sell but it paid for my table and gas from Mesa, Az. Maybe next year. Thx Abe Feder On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 8:34 AM, john robles wrote: > I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's show was > a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was in marked > contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy who I sell > with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to the show > for at least the past three or four years! > I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with brass > belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price. It now sits > on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty picture, I > must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down. > John Robles > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford wrote: > > > From: Stan Stanford > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM > > > Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual. There were interesting > machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6 phonographs > and many related small items.The entertainment for the Banquet as Scott > and Denise have described was superbas good as any I have seen over the > past 10 or 12 years. Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running the > projector. The precision with which they worked was amazing, and the > pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours. In addition to all this we > heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to David > Giovannoni. Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!! > > Stan Stanford, President > Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society > > > > - Original Message - From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" < > sdcorb...@earthlink.net> > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > > > > For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern > > California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the show > has > > been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus > reproducer) > > for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains. Rare > > machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for sale. > > One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00 each. I > > overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to get > down > > here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was just the > > show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with 200 > lots, > > and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo presented a > > range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector. Original > > glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels were > > changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and Laurel & > Hardy's > > immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a difficult > > time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or watching > him > > crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano accompaniment. > > The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, we heard > a > > concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine. Wow, > what > > volume! > > Mark your calendars for next August! > > > > -Scott & Denise Corbett > > > > -Original Message- > > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] > On > > Behalf Of rrocr...@aol.com > > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150 > > > > Any information of CAPS convention? > > > > > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
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I would have to agree, it was a great show. I thought last year's show was a bit slower in business and attendance, but this year's show was in marked contrast. I sold items I didn't think would sell, and may buddy who I sell with every year sold several machines that he has been carting to the show for at least the past three or four years! I was very happy with my main purchase,which was a Victor M with brass belled horn from Stan for what I thought was a very good price. It now sits on my formerly empty Herzog record cabinet and it makes a pretty picture, I must say! Thanks Stan and thanks to you and Jerry for coming down. John Robles --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Stan Stanford wrote: From: Stan Stanford Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:44 AM Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual. There were interesting machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6 phonographs and many related small items. The entertainment for the Banquet as Scott and Denise have described was superbas good as any I have seen over the past 10 or 12 years. Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running the projector. The precision with which they worked was amazing, and the pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours. In addition to all this we heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to David Giovannoni. Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!! Stan Stanford, President Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society - Original Message - From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show > For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern > California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the show has > been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus reproducer) > for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains. Rare > machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for sale. > One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00 each. I > overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to get down > here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was just the > show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with 200 lots, > and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo presented a > range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector. Original > glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels were > changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and Laurel & Hardy's > immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a difficult > time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or watching him > crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano accompaniment. > The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, we heard a > concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine. Wow, what > volume! > Mark your calendars for next August! > > -Scott & Denise Corbett > > -Original Message- > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On > Behalf Of rrocr...@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150 > > Any information of CAPS convention? > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
Jerry Blais and I drove to the CAPS Show as usual. There were interesting machines to buy and I sold most of what I brought including 6 phonographs and many related small items.The entertainment for the Banquet as Scott and Denise have described was superbas good as any I have seen over the past 10 or 12 years. Jerry and I sat next to the fellows running the projector. The precision with which they worked was amazing, and the pianist played non-stop for about 1 1/2 hours. In addition to all this we heard the world's oldest recorded sound from about 1857 thanks to David Giovannoni. Congrats CAPS for such a great Show!!! Stan Stanford, President Oregon Territory Antique Phonograph Society - Original Message - From: "Scott and Denise Corbett" To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the show has been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus reproducer) for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains. Rare machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for sale. One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00 each. I overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to get down here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was just the show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with 200 lots, and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo presented a range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector. Original glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels were changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and Laurel & Hardy's immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a difficult time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or watching him crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano accompaniment. The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, we heard a concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine. Wow, what volume! Mark your calendars for next August! -Scott & Denise Corbett -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of rrocr...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150 Any information of CAPS convention? ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] CAPS phonograph show
For those who could not make the CAPS phonograph show in Southern California, it was a great show! We have attended all 24 years the show has been held and it was the best show ever! A Busy Bee disc (minus reproducer) for $125 and a Columbia BF for $300 were among the many bargains. Rare machines like an Edison Schoolhouse (one of 27 known) were also for sale. One dealer offered 100's of playable cylinder for .75 to $2.00 each. I overheard one guy on his cell phone telling his friend "You need to get down here now. You won't believe what great stuff is here!" That was just the show. The banquet the night before included a silent auction with 200 lots, and a great dinner. The presentation was amazing. Joe Rinaudo presented a range of silent movies on his original hand cranked projector. Original glass slides were shown (including phonograph ads) while the reels were changed. "A Trip to the Moon" , Buster Keaton's "COPS", and Laurel & Hardy's immortal "Big Business" were among the classics shown. I had a difficult time deciding what was more interesting: Watching the movies or watching him crank and work the equipment! All the films had live piano accompaniment. The presenters wore period costumes to set the mood. As a bonus, we heard a concert cylinder played on a original Polyphone Concert machine. Wow, what volume! Mark your calendars for next August! -Scott & Denise Corbett -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of rrocr...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:44 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150 Any information of CAPS convention? ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] CAPS and "The Sound Box"
In a message dated 10/8/2006 12:30:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, john9...@pacbell.net writes: If I may insert my 2 cents here, MAPS has a California chapter, the Golden State Phonograph Society which also puts out a monthly newsletter with articles on many areas of collecting! Does OTAPS have a newsletter again? I know they used to, and just after I joined, it stopped! Perhaps the chapters can send each other their newsletters? John Robles There is also a Wisconsin Chapter of MAPS which publishes a quarterly newsletter edited by Joan and Robin Rolfs. I think their dues are $5.00/year if you are a MAPS member. Steve RAmm
[Phono-L] CAPS and "The Sound Box"
If I may insert my 2 cents here, MAPS has a California chapter, the Golden State Phonograph Society which also puts out a monthly newsletter with articles on many areas of collecting! Does OTAPS have a newsletter again? I know they used to, and just after I joined, it stopped! Perhaps the chapters can send each other their newsletters? John Robles DeeDee Blais wrote: >From some of the posting, I get the impression that some people are not aware of the more traditional resources available to the modern collector. "The Sound Box" is a publication offered quarterly from the California Antique Phonograph Society. It is a wonderful publication that is dedicated to the scholarly study of the talking machines and recordings. The other eagerly anticipated publication is "In The Grove", a monthly publication provided by the Michigan Antique Phonograph Society. Both publications are provided to members of the respective clubs. I highly recommend membership in both clubs. The cost is minimal and the benefits are huge. Both clubs have websites so check them out. Happy collecting, Jerry Blais __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org Phono-L Archive http://phono-l.oldcrank.org/archive/ Support Phono-L http://www.cafepress.com/oldcrank
[Phono-L] CAPS and "The Sound Box"
>From some of the posting, I get the impression that some people are not aware of the more traditional resources available to the modern collector. "The Sound Box" is a publication offered quarterly from the California Antique Phonograph Society. It is a wonderful publication that is dedicated to the scholarly study of the talking machines and recordings. The other eagerly anticipated publication is "In The Grove", a monthly publication provided by the Michigan Antique Phonograph Society. Both publications are provided to members of the respective clubs. I highly recommend membership in both clubs. The cost is minimal and the benefits are huge. Both clubs have websites so check them out. Happy collecting, Jerry Blais __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Phono-L] CAPS Show & Sale
I just returned from the CAPS show and wondered how other people enjoyed the sale. I thought it was the best CAPS event ever. The banquet with guest speakers Joan and Rob Rolf was very interesting. The sale had more machines and records than any prior California event. I had a good time and was glad I attended. Jerry Blais __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Phono-L] CAPS Show & Sale
Hi Jerry i had a great time too. I almost didn't go because I had such a heavy schedule this weekend, but I paid for a table and my friend Mike convinced me to come. I grabbed about one box worth of good cylinders, and a Columbia Grafonola, which was all I had ready to sell, and I ended up almost selling out! Comparing that to the last two years when I have taken several nice machines and only sold maybe one, and that makes this year's show great. I did hear from several that they thought it was slow, and I did see many dealers packing up early, but maybe the slower pace was what made it great. I only see some of these dealers and collectors once a year, so there's a lot of catching up to do. There were some very nice machines there this year; Pat Jones had made a haul and brought some really nice stuff in. Also the Oliphants had their usual mixture of stuff, and I noticed that their prices were especially good this year it seems. I bought an absolutely gorgeous Diamond Disc A-250 from them (the one that looks like an Amberola 1A for a fantastically low price. It is a real jewel of a machine. It also has the horn painted to look like mahogany, and it didn't have any grille cloth originally. I removed the new grille cloth that had been tacked onto the back, because the horn paint is extremely well preserved. There were lots of cylinders, 2 minte and 4; last year I don't remember there being many 2 minute wax at all. I bought about 15 or so, an some Diamond Discs. There weren't as many parts this year, I don't think, and the Wyatt's weren't there, unfortunately. Charley Hummel was there, and Tom Hawthorne, it is always nice to see them, and of course Jerry Blais! Good show all around. John Robles DeeDee Blais wrote: I just returned from the CAPS show and wondered how other people enjoyed the sale. I thought it was the best CAPS event ever. The banquet with guest speakers Joan and Rob Rolf was very interesting. The sale had more machines and records than any prior California event. I had a good time and was glad I attended. Jerry Blais __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org Phono-L Archive http://phono-l.oldcrank.org/archive/ Support Phono-L http://www.cafepress.com/oldcrank
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The CAPS show was the best California phonograph event ever. There was more merchandise, and more wonderful machines than ever. It certainly was a record collectors dream, and I think there were some real bargains. Everybody had a good time. Thank you CAPS for a great show. Al Menashe - Original Message - From: "DeeDee Blais" To: Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 5:41 PM Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS Show & Sale >I just returned from the CAPS show and wondered how > other people enjoyed the sale. I thought it was the > best CAPS event ever. The banquet with guest speakers > Joan and Rob Rolf was very interesting. The sale had > more machines and records than any prior California > event. I had a good time and was glad I attended. > Jerry Blais > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > Phono-L@oldcrank.org > > Phono-L Archive > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org/archive/ > > Support Phono-L > http://www.cafepress.com/oldcrank
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I've been attending for quite a few years and I felt this was one of the best. Lots of old friends and lots of old phonographs. The banquet on Saturday night was the biggest ever, with well over 100 people attending. Robin and Joan Rolfs came in from Wisconsin and gave a very amusing presentation on phonograph dolls and toys, and Nipper. In fact, their presentation intrigued me so much that when I stumbled upon a combination 'Ragtime Rastus' and 'the Boxers' phonograph toy in the original box early Sunday morning I immediately bought it. I blamed them for provoking me to spend money I hadn't planned on! But that's one of the things that makes these shows so much fun. You never know what small (or large) treasures may turn up, and it's always a treat to learn new things. All it all it was well worth the long drive and I'm already looking forward to next year. Best regards, Rene Rondeau
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Hi all! This was the busiest show I have ever had for restoration work. No end of cylinders to restore, reproducers to renew, and while you wait phono restoration to perform. As always I enjoyed great fellowship with so many dear friends like Joan and Robin Rolfs, Charley H., Tom and Virginia Hawthorn, John Levin...and on and on it goes. Outstanding banquet and presentation by Joan and Robin..only bummer was that the Moxie soda ran out too soon!! Best selection of great Phonos, records, smalls etc. that I ever remember at the CAPS show. Bravo! If you have never attended, what are you waiting for??!! Dr. K. (cylinder doctor)
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Ditto to what everyone has said about the CAPS show. What a great banquet and presentation as well. After hearing (and seeing) everything Joan and Robin Rolfs had to say, it convinced me that I too, like Rene, was intrigued enough that I am going to buy some phonograph toys--especially some dancers--for my 2 and 1/2 year old daughter. This will be her Christmas gift. She loves to dance in my phonograph room--listening to cylinders, music boxes, playing with the horns and winding up anything she can!! She will simply go wild over the dancing Rastus or anything else I can find! Mike Sorter PS...Happy Anniversary tomorrow to you and your wife Jerry!! -Original Message- From: deedeebl...@yahoo.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 5:41 PM Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS Show & Sale I just returned from the CAPS show and wondered how other people enjoyed the sale. I thought it was the best CAPS event ever. The banquet with guest speakers Joan and Rob Rolf was very interesting. The sale had more machines and records than any prior California event. I had a good time and was glad I attended. Jerry Blais __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org Phono-L Archive http://phono-l.oldcrank.org/archive/ Support Phono-L http://www.cafepress.com/oldcrank Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.
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Hi All I am sure many will submit a CAPS show report, so here is my 2 cents. I was a dealer again this year, for perhaps the 5th or 6th year in a row. I have been attending CAPS shows for about 15 years or so, since they were held in the first hotel in Fullerton. Crowds have come and gone every year, and this one was no different. What I did find odd was that there seemed not to be near as many people this time as last. Many other dealers shared that opinion. I don't know if there was competition for other large events, or what. I did see a lot of record and machine sales. though for the first time I only sold one machine and traded another. Normally I will sell 3 or 4 machines during the course of the show. There were a good number of very nice machines, disc and cylidner, most notably an Amberola 1, a Regina Hexaphone with oak horn, a couple of Victor VIs; a very nice Victor IV with mahogany speartip which went for $2400, I believe; a very nice Opera at $6500, three Credenzas, three maroon Gems (one of which I bought-no horn or lid, who can help me with this problem??); an Edison Diamond Disc B-80 with matching disc cabinet for $595; a very nice littl Columbia AT for only $450; a Columbia BE (which I bought); and many other machines which I am sure will be reproted on here. The pricing seemed to me to be within reason, with some high prices as usual. The star of the show in my opinion was Ekkehart WIlliams with a dearth of beautiful machines and parts. Notwithstanding my crappy hotel room and lack of sales of machiens, it was a fun show, and the best part is seeing all those friends who you only see once a year (Nice to see you, Jerry and Stan!). John Robles
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I just wanted to pass on a note about the CAPS (California Antique Phonograph Society) show last weekend. It was really a nice show. I found the people very accomodating and we had the opportunity to see a couple of nice private collections that were outstanding. Hospitality abounded. I believe all the out of towners were made to feel very welcome. I was there with several folks from Oregon. The banquet was also really great. There was a slient auction, a great dinner and then a talk by Renee Rondeau about Tinfoil machines with a really outstanding demo of a real edison tinfoil machine! What a rare thing to experience. The show was not huge, but there were a lot of machines and related things available. I got a late Vic 1 and a late Vic 2 both for what I thought were very reasonable prices. Another in our party bought a really nice Columbia BJ with a matching wood horn. Another bought a really nice Trademark Berliner. Really nice machines. Just thought I would pass my thoughts of the show along. Dan
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I am starting to recover from the two thousand mile round trip from Oregon to southern California and the CAPS sale. I sold three out of the five machines that I took and the group from Oregon purchased some very fine machines including a Columbia BJ with mahogany horn, Berliner, Victor I (big case), Victor II, an unusual European machine, and a small tin machine. My big purchase was two original Victor posters. While there, we were invited to see two terrific collections and the experience was wonderful. The banquet was exceptional and featured a talk on tinfoil machines by Rene Rondeau. The CAPS sale was dealer friendly and my overall experience was very positive. Jerry Blais
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The show was about par. A few rarities, a handful large machines, tons of records and one movie star. The banquet was great, as the speaker was well versed in Edison's life history, focusing specifically on personality traits. Extremely interesting and worth the price. >From: Peter Fraser >Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List >To: Antique Phonograph List >Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS show report wanted! >Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:35:27 -0700 > >Gang - > >Remarkably, not one posting has arrived telling us how wonderful, or >crappy, or whatever-in-between, the CAPS show of a couple weekends ago may >have been. > >So what gives? did anybody go? If you did, please share your >observations, complaints and brags with us! > > >-- Peter >pjfra...@alamedanet.net > >"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that >we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only >unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American >public." >-- Theodore Roosevelt, speaking on President Wilson's crackdown on dissent >after the U.S. entered W.W.I > >___ >Phono-L mailing list >Phono-L@oldcrank.org >http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
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Hi James Was it Matt Dillon that attended again? John James Burtnett wrote: The show was about par. A few rarities, a handful large machines, tons of records and one movie star. The banquet was great, as the speaker was well versed in Edison's life history, focusing specifically on personality traits. Extremely interesting and worth the price. >From: Peter Fraser >Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List >To: Antique Phonograph List >Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS show report wanted! >Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:35:27 -0700 > >Gang - > >Remarkably, not one posting has arrived telling us how wonderful, or >crappy, or whatever-in-between, the CAPS show of a couple weekends ago may >have been. > >So what gives? did anybody go? If you did, please share your >observations, complaints and brags with us! > > >-- Peter >pjfra...@alamedanet.net > >"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that >we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only >unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American >public." >-- Theodore Roosevelt, speaking on President Wilson's crackdown on dissent >after the U.S. entered W.W.I > >___ >Phono-L mailing list >Phono-L@oldcrank.org >http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ Phono-L mailing list Phono-L@oldcrank.org http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20040824/bffb84bb/attachment.html From misterphonogr...@sbcglobal.net Tue Aug 24 14:25:40 2004 From: misterphonogr...@sbcglobal.net (Matt Brown) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:09:46 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Gotta get rid of some stuff Message-ID: <001c01c48a20$e90015e0$157af...@w2q9r0> I hope this is OK for me to post this here - we have a new baby on the way, and my wife isn't too keen on the idea of storing the baby and it's things in and/or on phonographs. So some things must go. Pay no attention to the tear-stains on this email 1.Edison B-80 (mahogany) Very nice condition $500.00 2.Edison LU-37 (mahogany)"London Upright" Some finish fading, but nice $250.00 3. Edison LC-38 (mahogany)"London Console" Very nice condition $275.00 4. Edison C-250 (mahogany)"Chippendale" Excellent condition $750.00 5. Edison B-200 (mahogany)"Queen Anne" AMAZING condition - all original $750.00 6. Edison C-200 (mahogany)"Adam" Excellent condition $500.00 7. Edison CC-32 (mahogany)"Chippendale Console" Very nice condition $500.00 8. Edison WMC-38 (mahogany)"William and Mary Console" Excellent condition - has been French polished $500.00 9. Edison WMC-38 (mahogany)"William and Mary Console" Very nice condition $350.00 10. Edison C-450"XVIII Century English (Adam)" Hard to find! Excellent condition $1800.00 11. Edison IU-19 (walnut)"Italian Umbrian" Hard to find - very nice condition $950.00 12. Edison H-19 (mahogany)"Hepplewhite" Fleur-de-lis grille - very nice condition $350.00 13. Edison H-19 (mahogany)"Hepplewhite" Shield grille - excellent condition $350.00 14. Edison C-150 (oak) Needs work $200.00 15. Victor VV 4-3"Consolette" Very nice condition $395.00 16. Columbia Grafonola K-5 Very nice condition $575.00 17. Dulcitone Upright BURLED WALNUT AND BIRD'S-EYE MAPLE - beautiful! $575.00 18. Puritan Plymouth Very nice condition $400.00 Pics of all are on my site - www.misterphonograph.com . I'd be happy to send additional photos/info to anyone interested. Going to go weep uncontrollably now :) Matt Brown -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20040824/6a86f817/attachment.html From lo...@oldcrank.com Tue Aug 24 14:46:32 2004 From: lo...@oldcrank.com (Loran Hughes) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:09:46 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] Gotta get rid of some stuff In-Reply-To: <001c01c48a20$e90015e0$157af...@w2q9r0> References: <001c01c48a20$e90015e0$157af...@w2q9r0> Message-ID: <200408241446.32409.lo...@oldcrank.com> On Tuesday 24 August 2004 02:25 pm, Matt Brown wrote: > I hope this is OK for me to post this here - we have a new baby on the way.. It's always appropriate to post your buy/sell/trade lists on Phono-L. Congrats on the new yung-un! Loran
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No, I think it was Festus.
- Original Message -
From: john robles
To: Antique Phonograph List
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [Phono-L] CAPS show report wanted!
Hi James
Was it Matt Dillon that attended again?
John
James Burtnett wrote:
The show was about par. A few rarities, a handful large machines, tons of
records and one movie star. The banquet was great, as the speaker was well
versed in Edison's life history, focusing specifically on personality
traits. Extremely interesting and worth the price.
>From: Peter Fraser
>Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List
>To: Antique Phonograph List
>Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS show report wanted!
>Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:35:27 -0700
>
>Gang -
>
>Remarkably, not one posting has arrived telling us how wonderful, or
>crappy, or whatever-in-between, the CAPS show of a couple weekends ago may
>have been.
>
>So what gives? did anybody go? If you did, please share your
>observations, complaints and brags wi th us!
>
>
>-- Peter
>pjfra...@alamedanet.net
>
>"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that
>we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only
>unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American
>public."
>-- Theodore Roosevelt, speaking on President Wilson's crackdown on dissent
>after the U.S. entered W.W.I
>
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From: talk78s.settlem...@sbcglobal.net (talk78s.settlem...@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sun Dec 24 13:09:46 2006
Subject: [Phono-L] Updated phono/record links, and updated me
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It's only taken 11 months! Yes indeed, the 78/phonograph links page has been
updated:
http://www.proaxis.com/~settlet/record/links.html
There are 22 new sites:
Vintage Phonograph Music
gram-o-phone.com
VIP Records
Fox auf 78
shellac-records.de
SchellackBoerse
The Phonoautograph
Mostly Big Bands
W.A.M.S Equalization Curves
Jazz Discography Project
Alan Cooperman Record Auctions
FGRA Transfer Service
The Olde Tyme Radio Network
The Berliner/Zonophone Registry Project (gets my cool site vote)
Roaring 1920s Tunes
Yiddish-American Digital Archive
Qu?b?coise Record Library
Blues Free Press links
Edison Commemorative Coin
Norbeck & Peters
The Database of Popular Music
Henry Burr in Concert
Many thanks to:
Dudley Delany
Cao Jiang, Ph.D.
J. E. Knox
Stephen Worth
Prof.Dr.Klaus Kr?ger
Germar Gr?ger
Richard Harrison
Dave Burnham
Bob Shirer
Alan Cooperman
Joe Salerno
Robert Plavzic
David W. Littlefield
Richard DeLombard
Nigel Burlinson
Dudley Delany
On a personal level, one of the reasons it took so long to update this time is
that my company has transferred me from Oregon to Dallas, TX. I had been
flying back and forth for awhile, then moved to a new house in Plano, Texas,
and then it took me a couple months to get online.
We drove across the country (which the company paid for) and all our stuff was
moved (paid for again by the company) including 1 records. 9994 of which
made it safely. The only loss of any significance was a Gene Ammons on Chess.
One benefit is that I finally have a "record room" and can truly organize my
records. But sorry Lennick, still haven't found the one you need.
The anti-benefit is that now I don't know any collectors in the immediate area.
I hope to be able to meet fellow record / phonograph collectors in the
Dallas/Fort Worth area soon. Are the any informal gatherings / trade shows in
the area?
All the best,
Ty
Tyrone Settlemier
talk78s.settlem...@sbcglobal.net
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Okay, maybe I'm biased since I'm now editing the CAPS journal, "The Sound Box," but in my opinion it was an excellent show in every respect. The CAPS show seems to be growing steadily, and it is now equivalent in size to the east coast shows (Union still dominates all of them). It is also attracting more and more out of state visitors every year. What makes the CAPS show so much more special than the others is the "early buyer" opening on Saturday afternoon during setup, and especially the banquet on Saturday night. No other group does such an entertaining and informative event. The banquet is a great opportunity to relax and chat with friends. The quality of the meal itself has improved significantly in the past couple of years with a new caterer handling it. It's pretty remarkable considering they serve 100 people! What really sets the banquet apart is that each year a speaker is invited to give an informative presentation. This year's guest speaker was Jack Stanley, director of the Menlo Park Museum in Edison, NJ. Jack is incredibly knowledgeable about Edison, and he gave a hugely entertaining talk about Edison -- the man versus the myth. I'm sure everyone in attendance will agree that it was a sensational presentation. The show itself, like others of its kind, offers something for everyone. There were huge amounts of records, all sorts of parts, and machines ranging from common fixer-uppers to gorgeous high-end showpieces. In short, it was a lot of fun. The CAPS board, and especially Bruce Peterson who handles most aspects of the show and banquet each year, deserve kudos for the great job they do. Best regards, Rene Rondeau -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20040823/800e8d37/attachment.html From s...@clarphon.com Mon Aug 23 20:13:03 2004 From: s...@clarphon.com (Stan Stanford) Date: Sun Dec 24 13:09:46 2006 Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS show report wanted! References: <7ebcb54b-f565-11d8-9fcd-000393c78...@alamedanet.net> Message-ID: <001501c48988$44f32700$0200a...@stan> I attended the CAPS show and had a great time. There were interesting machines for sale and I was able to sell a nice machine, extra parts, and smaller items. It was a great show for me. The CAPS leadership is very friendly and helpful. The banquet speaker from the Edison site was outstanding. I encourage all to put it on your calendar for next year!! It's always the second weekend in August. Stan Stanford Portland, OR - Original Message - From: "Peter Fraser" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 5:35 PM Subject: [Phono-L] CAPS show report wanted! > Gang - > > Remarkably, not one posting has arrived telling us how wonderful, or > crappy, or whatever-in-between, the CAPS show of a couple weekends ago > may have been. > > So what gives? did anybody go? If you did, please share your > observations, complaints and brags with us! > > > -- Peter > pjfra...@alamedanet.net > > "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that > we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only > unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American > public." > -- Theodore Roosevelt, speaking on President Wilson's crackdown on > dissent after the U.S. entered W.W.I > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > Phono-L@oldcrank.org > http://oldcrank.org/mailman/listinfo/phono-l
