Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
Thanks. > Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:06:50 -0600 > From: rich-m...@octoxol.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > If memory serves there is a tizit that has the ball joint but straight > ends. I have Triumph B with a horizontal carriage on it and a Cygnet > horn and there is indeed a slip connector but As I have not used it for > 10+ years I am at a loss how I had it setup. It was touchy with the > spring suspension and I suspect it will be even a larger pain with the > solid hanger. > > On 11/11/2012 10:16 PM, Steven Medved wrote: > > > > I assume the large horizontal carriage would need a straight metal tizit > > when used with the cygnet horn without the spring. Steve > > > >> Hello, On the early cygnet horns without the springs in the suspension for > >> the small carriage you need the metal tizit. Is this the same for the > >> horizontal carriage? Thanks, Steve > >> ___ > >> Phono-L mailing list > >> http://phono-l.org > > > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.org > > > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
If memory serves there is a tizit that has the ball joint but straight ends. I have Triumph B with a horizontal carriage on it and a Cygnet horn and there is indeed a slip connector but As I have not used it for 10+ years I am at a loss how I had it setup. It was touchy with the spring suspension and I suspect it will be even a larger pain with the solid hanger. On 11/11/2012 10:16 PM, Steven Medved wrote: I assume the large horizontal carriage would need a straight metal tizit when used with the cygnet horn without the spring. Steve Hello, On the early cygnet horns without the springs in the suspension for the small carriage you need the metal tizit. Is this the same for the horizontal carriage? Thanks, Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
You need some type of slip connector/connection as the lower end of the horn will travel through an arc. On 11/11/2012 09:31 PM, Steven Medved wrote: Hello, On the early cygnet horns without the springs in the suspension for the small carriage you need the metal tizit. Is this the same for the horizontal carriage? Thanks, Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
I assume the large horizontal carriage would need a straight metal tizit when used with the cygnet horn without the spring. Steve > Hello, On the early cygnet horns without the springs in the suspension for > the small carriage you need the metal tizit. Is this the same for the > horizontal carriage? Thanks, Steve > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
Hello, On the early cygnet horns without the springs in the suspension for the small carriage you need the metal tizit. Is this the same for the horizontal carriage? Thanks, Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] ( Early cygnet horn without the spring )Isn't there a subject line?
Yeesh I saw there 28 messages.. looked at subject. But 90% were comments about someone wanted to be off the list. EVERY one of you just hit reply and left the Cygnet Horn subject line. Suggestion. READ the subject line before you hit reply. Take a moment and make sure the subject line is relevant to your reply. If you want to be "funny", that's fine too but on 78-L we use a carat (^) after the subject which mean;s it's off topic and really means "If you don't have time to read an off topic or attempt at humor, just delete this post." It works pretty well there. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
I think the gentleman's first language is not English and maybe he is wishing to be unsubscribed from the list. Darren On 10 nov 2010, at 15.57, Jean-Charles Leblanc wrote: > > thanks for understand me and please dont send any more E-MAIL. > >> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 20:15:51 -0800 >> From: lo...@oldcrank.com >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring >> >> Jean-Charles, ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
I agree, a whanr one to but don'get smarrt. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Vinyl Visions Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 08:23:44 To: Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring I whant as many of dose gramophones as you will send... I whill accept em all. > From: pjfra...@mac.com > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 19:46:40 -0800 > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > I'm actually loving this. Rant on, Johnny-Chuck! > > On Nov 9, 2010, at 7:39 PM, Jean-Charles Leblanc > wrote: > > > > > i told you people whaht i had to tell you ,now dont get smart,what is my > > bunesse is not yours,and be calm AND I DONT WHANT ANY OF YOUR PRODUCT. > > > >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > >> From: john9...@pacbell.net > >> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:01:54 + > >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >> > >> Jean-Charles- > >> Who are you trying to communicate with??? If you have a problem with a > >> seller on this board you need to take it up with them privately and off > >> the public list. > >> John Robles > >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Jean-Charles Leblanc > >> Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > >> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:42:23 > >> To: > >> Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List > >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >> > >> > >> hello,i made up my mind now that evry it clear,i guest i wont buy any of > >> your products,PS.dont send me any of dose gramophones i whont accept any > >> of them so every that is clear for you,forget about evrey thing once again > >> i dont whant to order any of your product. > >> > >>> From: ander...@tampabay.rr.com > >>> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:07:27 -0500 > >>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >>> > >>> Folks, > >>> Again, This is what is required to make it work and what was originally > >>> supplied with the early style Edison Cygnet horn cranes. You dont need > >>> the spring as long as you have the older style crane. > >>> > >>> http://cgi.ebay.com/HORN-CONNECTOR-EDISON-COLUMBIA-CYLINDER-PHONOGRAPH-/320611493258?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa5ef258a > >>> > >>> > >>> Steve > >>> > >>> On Nov 9, 2010, at 12:57 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: > >>> > >>>> WTF is that all about??? > >>>> John Robles > >>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > >>>> > >>>> -Original Message- > >>>> From: Jean-Charles Leblanc > >>>> Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > >>>> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:51:17 > >>>> To: > >>>> Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List > >>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> what do tou mein by no spring,that not new product,your suppose to sell > >>>> it complete,and what is the price you never told me your price i am > >>>> having trouble to get the price out of you people PS.and dose > >>>> gramophomes is not miniature,and before shipping any thing i whant to be > >>>> clear about everyting the price the shipping price and the description > >>>> of any items is that clear,your shipping nothing before my autorisation > >>>> is that clear. > >>>> > >>>>> From: steve_nor...@msn.com > >>>>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > >>>>> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:14:49 -0500 > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> People I know have one and it lifts up the reproducer one the one end > >>>>> of the record, on the other is it way too heavy on a fireside. My idea > >>>>> is to convert it to the new style. Thanks for the reply, I never gave > >>>>> this any thought until they had the problem. > >>>>> > >>>>>> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:11:36 -0800 > >>>>>>
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
please dont send any more E-MAIL. > From: kathal...@gmail.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 20:44:49 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > >From the wording, it looks like someone in Nigeria has hacked his email. > > > > >From the Desk of > Kat Hall > Executive Assistant to Ms. Smith (Publisher) > Review Coordinator > Author Liaison > www.champagnebooks.com > www.carnalpassions.com > www.thewritersvineyard.com > -Original Message- > From: Jean-Charles Leblanc > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 8:39 PM > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > i told you people whaht i had to tell you ,now dont get smart,what is my > bunesse is not yours,and be calm AND I DONT WHANT ANY OF YOUR PRODUCT. > > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > From: john9...@pacbell.net > > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:01:54 + > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > Jean-Charles- > > Who are you trying to communicate with??? If you have a problem with a > > seller on this board you need to take it up with them privately and off > > the public list. > > John Robles > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jean-Charles Leblanc > > Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:42:23 > > To: > > Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > hello,i made up my mind now that evry it clear,i guest i wont buy any of > > your products,PS.dont send me any of dose gramophones i whont accept any > > of them so every that is clear for you,forget about evrey thing once again > > i dont whant to order any of your product. > > > > > From: ander...@tampabay.rr.com > > > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:07:27 -0500 > > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > Folks, > > > Again, This is what is required to make it work and what was originally > > > supplied with the early style Edison Cygnet horn cranes. You dont need > > > the spring as long as you have the older style crane. > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/HORN-CONNECTOR-EDISON-COLUMBIA-CYLINDER-PHONOGRAPH-/320611493258?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa5ef258a > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > On Nov 9, 2010, at 12:57 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: > > > > > > > WTF is that all about??? > > > > John Robles > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Jean-Charles Leblanc > > > > Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > > > > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:51:17 > > > > To: > > > > Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List > > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > > > > > > > what do tou mein by no spring,that not new product,your suppose to > > > > sell it complete,and what is the price you never told me your price i > > > > am having trouble to get the price out of you people PS.and dose > > > > gramophomes is not miniature,and before shipping any thing i whant to > > > > be clear about everyting the price the shipping price and the > > > > description of any items is that clear,your shipping nothing before my > > > > autorisation is that clear. > > > > > > > >> From: steve_nor...@msn.com > > > >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > >> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:14:49 -0500 > > > >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> People I know have one and it lifts up the reproducer one the one end > > > >> of the record, on the other is it way too heavy on a fireside. My > > > >> idea is to convert it to the new style. Thanks for the reply, I never > > > >> gave this any thought until they had the problem. > > > >> > > > >>> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:11:36 -0800 > > > >>> From: john9...@pacbell.net > > > >>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > >>> > > > >>
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
please dont send any more E-MAIL thanks. > From: pjfra...@mac.com > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 19:46:40 -0800 > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > I'm actually loving this. Rant on, Johnny-Chuck! > > On Nov 9, 2010, at 7:39 PM, Jean-Charles Leblanc > wrote: > > > > > i told you people whaht i had to tell you ,now dont get smart,what is my > > bunesse is not yours,and be calm AND I DONT WHANT ANY OF YOUR PRODUCT. > > > >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > >> From: john9...@pacbell.net > >> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:01:54 + > >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >> > >> Jean-Charles- > >> Who are you trying to communicate with??? If you have a problem with a > >> seller on this board you need to take it up with them privately and off > >> the public list. > >> John Robles > >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Jean-Charles Leblanc > >> Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > >> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:42:23 > >> To: > >> Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List > >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >> > >> > >> hello,i made up my mind now that evry it clear,i guest i wont buy any of > >> your products,PS.dont send me any of dose gramophones i whont accept any > >> of them so every that is clear for you,forget about evrey thing once again > >> i dont whant to order any of your product. > >> > >>> From: ander...@tampabay.rr.com > >>> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:07:27 -0500 > >>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >>> > >>> Folks, > >>> Again, This is what is required to make it work and what was originally > >>> supplied with the early style Edison Cygnet horn cranes. You dont need > >>> the spring as long as you have the older style crane. > >>> > >>> http://cgi.ebay.com/HORN-CONNECTOR-EDISON-COLUMBIA-CYLINDER-PHONOGRAPH-/320611493258?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa5ef258a > >>> > >>> > >>> Steve > >>> > >>> On Nov 9, 2010, at 12:57 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: > >>> > >>>> WTF is that all about??? > >>>> John Robles > >>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > >>>> > >>>> -Original Message- > >>>> From: Jean-Charles Leblanc > >>>> Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > >>>> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:51:17 > >>>> To: > >>>> Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List > >>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> what do tou mein by no spring,that not new product,your suppose to sell > >>>> it complete,and what is the price you never told me your price i am > >>>> having trouble to get the price out of you people PS.and dose > >>>> gramophomes is not miniature,and before shipping any thing i whant to be > >>>> clear about everyting the price the shipping price and the description > >>>> of any items is that clear,your shipping nothing before my autorisation > >>>> is that clear. > >>>> > >>>>> From: steve_nor...@msn.com > >>>>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > >>>>> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:14:49 -0500 > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> People I know have one and it lifts up the reproducer one the one end > >>>>> of the record, on the other is it way too heavy on a fireside. My idea > >>>>> is to convert it to the new style. Thanks for the reply, I never gave > >>>>> this any thought until they had the problem. > >>>>> > >>>>>> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:11:36 -0800 > >>>>>> From: john9...@pacbell.net > >>>>>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I would not think that they would track well, without the 'give&#
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
thanks for understand me and please dont send any more E-MAIL. > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 20:15:51 -0800 > From: lo...@oldcrank.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > Jean-Charles, > > Please be civil. Nobody is trying to sell you anything. If you do not > wish to receive emails from Phono-L, I will be happy to unsubscribe > you. > > Best, > Loran > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Jean-Charles Leblanc > wrote: > > > > i told you people whaht i had to tell you ,now dont get smart,what is my > > bunesse is not yours,and be calm AND I DONT WHANT ANY OF YOUR PRODUCT. > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
Hey Jean Charles, wtf is up with you? I think you need to up your meds and get a reality check... this is NOT an internet scam site where strangers are attempting to send you stuff and charge you for it. If you "don't whant any product", please don't buy it and quit sending messages... As for dose gramophones, I'm ABSOLUTELY sure that no one will send you one. > From: jeancharle...@hotmail.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 22:39:56 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > i told you people whaht i had to tell you ,now dont get smart,what is my > bunesse is not yours,and be calm AND I DONT WHANT ANY OF YOUR PRODUCT. > > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > From: john9...@pacbell.net > > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:01:54 + > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > Jean-Charles- > > Who are you trying to communicate with??? If you have a problem with a > > seller on this board you need to take it up with them privately and off the > > public list. > > John Robles > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jean-Charles Leblanc > > Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:42:23 > > To: > > Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > hello,i made up my mind now that evry it clear,i guest i wont buy any of > > your products,PS.dont send me any of dose gramophones i whont accept any of > > them so every that is clear for you,forget about evrey thing once again i > > dont whant to order any of your product. > > > > > From: ander...@tampabay.rr.com > > > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:07:27 -0500 > > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > Folks, > > > Again, This is what is required to make it work and what was originally > > > supplied with the early style Edison Cygnet horn cranes. You dont need > > > the spring as long as you have the older style crane. > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/HORN-CONNECTOR-EDISON-COLUMBIA-CYLINDER-PHONOGRAPH-/320611493258?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa5ef258a > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > On Nov 9, 2010, at 12:57 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: > > > > > > > WTF is that all about??? > > > > John Robles > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Jean-Charles Leblanc > > > > Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > > > > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:51:17 > > > > To: > > > > Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List > > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > > > > > > > what do tou mein by no spring,that not new product,your suppose to sell > > > > it complete,and what is the price you never told me your price i am > > > > having trouble to get the price out of you people PS.and dose > > > > gramophomes is not miniature,and before shipping any thing i whant to > > > > be clear about everyting the price the shipping price and the > > > > description of any items is that clear,your shipping nothing before my > > > > autorisation is that clear. > > > > > > > >> From: steve_nor...@msn.com > > > >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > >> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:14:49 -0500 > > > >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> People I know have one and it lifts up the reproducer one the one end > > > >> of the record, on the other is it way too heavy on a fireside. My idea > > > >> is to convert it to the new style. Thanks for the reply, I never gave > > > >> this any thought until they had the problem. > > > >> > > > >>> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:11:36 -0800 > > > >>> From: john9...@pacbell.net > > > >>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > >>> > > > >>> I would not think that they would track well, without the 'give' of > > > &
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
I whant as many of dose gramophones as you will send... I whill accept em all. > From: pjfra...@mac.com > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 19:46:40 -0800 > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > I'm actually loving this. Rant on, Johnny-Chuck! > > On Nov 9, 2010, at 7:39 PM, Jean-Charles Leblanc > wrote: > > > > > i told you people whaht i had to tell you ,now dont get smart,what is my > > bunesse is not yours,and be calm AND I DONT WHANT ANY OF YOUR PRODUCT. > > > >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > >> From: john9...@pacbell.net > >> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:01:54 + > >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >> > >> Jean-Charles- > >> Who are you trying to communicate with??? If you have a problem with a > >> seller on this board you need to take it up with them privately and off > >> the public list. > >> John Robles > >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Jean-Charles Leblanc > >> Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > >> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:42:23 > >> To: > >> Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List > >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >> > >> > >> hello,i made up my mind now that evry it clear,i guest i wont buy any of > >> your products,PS.dont send me any of dose gramophones i whont accept any > >> of them so every that is clear for you,forget about evrey thing once again > >> i dont whant to order any of your product. > >> > >>> From: ander...@tampabay.rr.com > >>> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:07:27 -0500 > >>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >>> > >>> Folks, > >>> Again, This is what is required to make it work and what was originally > >>> supplied with the early style Edison Cygnet horn cranes. You dont need > >>> the spring as long as you have the older style crane. > >>> > >>> http://cgi.ebay.com/HORN-CONNECTOR-EDISON-COLUMBIA-CYLINDER-PHONOGRAPH-/320611493258?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa5ef258a > >>> > >>> > >>> Steve > >>> > >>> On Nov 9, 2010, at 12:57 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: > >>> > >>>> WTF is that all about??? > >>>> John Robles > >>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > >>>> > >>>> -Original Message- > >>>> From: Jean-Charles Leblanc > >>>> Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > >>>> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:51:17 > >>>> To: > >>>> Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List > >>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> what do tou mein by no spring,that not new product,your suppose to sell > >>>> it complete,and what is the price you never told me your price i am > >>>> having trouble to get the price out of you people PS.and dose > >>>> gramophomes is not miniature,and before shipping any thing i whant to be > >>>> clear about everyting the price the shipping price and the description > >>>> of any items is that clear,your shipping nothing before my autorisation > >>>> is that clear. > >>>> > >>>>> From: steve_nor...@msn.com > >>>>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > >>>>> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:14:49 -0500 > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> People I know have one and it lifts up the reproducer one the one end > >>>>> of the record, on the other is it way too heavy on a fireside. My idea > >>>>> is to convert it to the new style. Thanks for the reply, I never gave > >>>>> this any thought until they had the problem. > >>>>> > >>>>>> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:11:36 -0800 > >>>>>> From: john9...@pacbell.net > >>>>>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I would not think that they would track well, without the 'give&#
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
Jean-Charles, Please be civil. Nobody is trying to sell you anything. If you do not wish to receive emails from Phono-L, I will be happy to unsubscribe you. Best, Loran On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Jean-Charles Leblanc wrote: > > i told you people whaht i had to tell you ,now dont get smart,what is my > bunesse is not yours,and be calm AND I DONT WHANT ANY OF YOUR PRODUCT. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
I'm actually loving this. Rant on, Johnny-Chuck! On Nov 9, 2010, at 7:39 PM, Jean-Charles Leblanc wrote: > > i told you people whaht i had to tell you ,now dont get smart,what is my > bunesse is not yours,and be calm AND I DONT WHANT ANY OF YOUR PRODUCT. > >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org >> From: john9...@pacbell.net >> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:01:54 +0000 >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring >> >> Jean-Charles- >> Who are you trying to communicate with??? If you have a problem with a >> seller on this board you need to take it up with them privately and off the >> public list. >> John Robles >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Jean-Charles Leblanc >> Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org >> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:42:23 >> To: >> Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring >> >> >> hello,i made up my mind now that evry it clear,i guest i wont buy any of >> your products,PS.dont send me any of dose gramophones i whont accept any of >> them so every that is clear for you,forget about evrey thing once again i >> dont whant to order any of your product. >> >>> From: ander...@tampabay.rr.com >>> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:07:27 -0500 >>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring >>> >>> Folks, >>> Again, This is what is required to make it work and what was originally >>> supplied with the early style Edison Cygnet horn cranes. You dont need the >>> spring as long as you have the older style crane. >>> >>> http://cgi.ebay.com/HORN-CONNECTOR-EDISON-COLUMBIA-CYLINDER-PHONOGRAPH-/320611493258?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa5ef258a >>> >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> On Nov 9, 2010, at 12:57 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: >>> >>>> WTF is that all about??? >>>> John Robles >>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Jean-Charles Leblanc >>>> Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org >>>> Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:51:17 >>>> To: >>>> Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List >>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring >>>> >>>> >>>> what do tou mein by no spring,that not new product,your suppose to sell it >>>> complete,and what is the price you never told me your price i am having >>>> trouble to get the price out of you people PS.and dose gramophomes is not >>>> miniature,and before shipping any thing i whant to be clear about >>>> everyting the price the shipping price and the description of any items is >>>> that clear,your shipping nothing before my autorisation is that clear. >>>> >>>>> From: steve_nor...@msn.com >>>>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org >>>>> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:14:49 -0500 >>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> People I know have one and it lifts up the reproducer one the one end of >>>>> the record, on the other is it way too heavy on a fireside. My idea is to >>>>> convert it to the new style. Thanks for the reply, I never gave this any >>>>> thought until they had the problem. >>>>> >>>>>> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:11:36 -0800 >>>>>> From: john9...@pacbell.net >>>>>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring >>>>>> >>>>>> I would not think that they would track well, without the 'give' of the >>>>>> spring. The rigid bolt connection seems as if it would be very stiff. >>>>>> For those who are unfamiliar with this early horn, I have posted a >>>>>> picture of the horn and crane and the suspension bolt at this link: >>>>>> http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Early%20Cygnet%20Horn/ >>>>>> John Robles >>>>>> >>>>>> --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Steven Medved wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Steven Medved >>>>>> Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring >>>>>
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
From the wording, it looks like someone in Nigeria has hacked his email. From the Desk of Kat Hall Executive Assistant to Ms. Smith (Publisher) Review Coordinator Author Liaison www.champagnebooks.com www.carnalpassions.com www.thewritersvineyard.com -Original Message- From: Jean-Charles Leblanc Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 8:39 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring i told you people whaht i had to tell you ,now dont get smart,what is my bunesse is not yours,and be calm AND I DONT WHANT ANY OF YOUR PRODUCT. To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: john9...@pacbell.net Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:01:54 + Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring Jean-Charles- Who are you trying to communicate with??? If you have a problem with a seller on this board you need to take it up with them privately and off the public list. John Robles Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jean-Charles Leblanc Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:42:23 To: Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring hello,i made up my mind now that evry it clear,i guest i wont buy any of your products,PS.dont send me any of dose gramophones i whont accept any of them so every that is clear for you,forget about evrey thing once again i dont whant to order any of your product. > From: ander...@tampabay.rr.com > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:07:27 -0500 > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > Folks, > Again, This is what is required to make it work and what was originally > supplied with the early style Edison Cygnet horn cranes. You dont need > the spring as long as you have the older style crane. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/HORN-CONNECTOR-EDISON-COLUMBIA-CYLINDER-PHONOGRAPH-/320611493258?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa5ef258a > > > Steve > > On Nov 9, 2010, at 12:57 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: > > > WTF is that all about??? > > John Robles > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jean-Charles Leblanc > > Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:51:17 > > To: > > Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > what do tou mein by no spring,that not new product,your suppose to > > sell it complete,and what is the price you never told me your price i > > am having trouble to get the price out of you people PS.and dose > > gramophomes is not miniature,and before shipping any thing i whant to > > be clear about everyting the price the shipping price and the > > description of any items is that clear,your shipping nothing before my > > autorisation is that clear. > > > >> From: steve_nor...@msn.com > >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > >> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:14:49 -0500 > >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >> > >> > >> People I know have one and it lifts up the reproducer one the one end > >> of the record, on the other is it way too heavy on a fireside. My > >> idea is to convert it to the new style. Thanks for the reply, I never > >> gave this any thought until they had the problem. > >> > >>> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:11:36 -0800 > >>> From: john9...@pacbell.net > >>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >>> > >>> I would not think that they would track well, without the 'give' of > >>> the spring. The rigid bolt connection seems as if it would be very > >>> stiff. For those who are unfamiliar with this early horn, I have > >>> posted a picture of the horn and crane and the suspension bolt at > >>> this link: > >>> http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Early%20Cygnet%20Horn/ > >>> John Robles > >>> > >>> --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Steven Medved wrote: > >>> > >>> From: Steven Medved > >>> Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >>> To: "phonolist" , "Phono-l" > >>> > >>> Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 6:08 PM > >>> > >>> > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do > >>> these work without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not > >>
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
i told you people whaht i had to tell you ,now dont get smart,what is my bunesse is not yours,and be calm AND I DONT WHANT ANY OF YOUR PRODUCT. > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > From: john9...@pacbell.net > Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:01:54 + > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > Jean-Charles- > Who are you trying to communicate with??? If you have a problem with a seller > on this board you need to take it up with them privately and off the public > list. > John Robles > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Jean-Charles Leblanc > Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:42:23 > To: > Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > hello,i made up my mind now that evry it clear,i guest i wont buy any of your > products,PS.dont send me any of dose gramophones i whont accept any of them > so every that is clear for you,forget about evrey thing once again i dont > whant to order any of your product. > > > From: ander...@tampabay.rr.com > > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:07:27 -0500 > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > Folks, > > Again, This is what is required to make it work and what was originally > > supplied with the early style Edison Cygnet horn cranes. You dont need the > > spring as long as you have the older style crane. > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/HORN-CONNECTOR-EDISON-COLUMBIA-CYLINDER-PHONOGRAPH-/320611493258?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa5ef258a > > > > > > Steve > > > > On Nov 9, 2010, at 12:57 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: > > > > > WTF is that all about??? > > > John Robles > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > > > -Original Message----- > > > From: Jean-Charles Leblanc > > > Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > > > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:51:17 > > > To: > > > Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > > > > what do tou mein by no spring,that not new product,your suppose to sell > > > it complete,and what is the price you never told me your price i am > > > having trouble to get the price out of you people PS.and dose gramophomes > > > is not miniature,and before shipping any thing i whant to be clear about > > > everyting the price the shipping price and the description of any items > > > is that clear,your shipping nothing before my autorisation is that clear. > > > > > >> From: steve_nor...@msn.com > > >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > >> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:14:49 -0500 > > >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > >> > > >> > > >> People I know have one and it lifts up the reproducer one the one end of > > >> the record, on the other is it way too heavy on a fireside. My idea is > > >> to convert it to the new style. Thanks for the reply, I never gave this > > >> any thought until they had the problem. > > >> > > >>> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:11:36 -0800 > > >>> From: john9...@pacbell.net > > >>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > >>> > > >>> I would not think that they would track well, without the 'give' of the > > >>> spring. The rigid bolt connection seems as if it would be very stiff. > > >>> For those who are unfamiliar with this early horn, I have posted a > > >>> picture of the horn and crane and the suspension bolt at this link: > > >>> http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Early%20Cygnet%20Horn/ > > >>> John Robles > > >>> > > >>> --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Steven Medved wrote: > > >>> > > >>> From: Steven Medved > > >>> Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > >>> To: "phonolist" , "Phono-l" > > >>> > > >>> Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 6:08 PM > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Hello, > > >>> > > >>> Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these > > >>> work without the coil spring? I have seen them b
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
cue Rod Serling: " Letters from the edge of ... the Twilight Zhone ! " - Original Message - From: To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 7:01 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring Jean-Charles- Who are you trying to communicate with??? If you have a problem with a seller on this board you need to take it up with them privately and off the public list. John Robles Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jean-Charles Leblanc Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:42:23 To: Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring hello,i made up my mind now that evry it clear,i guest i wont buy any of your products,PS.dont send me any of dose gramophones i whont accept any of them so every that is clear for you,forget about evrey thing once again i dont whant to order any of your product. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
Jean-Charles- Who are you trying to communicate with??? If you have a problem with a seller on this board you need to take it up with them privately and off the public list. John Robles Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jean-Charles Leblanc Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:42:23 To: Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring hello,i made up my mind now that evry it clear,i guest i wont buy any of your products,PS.dont send me any of dose gramophones i whont accept any of them so every that is clear for you,forget about evrey thing once again i dont whant to order any of your product. > From: ander...@tampabay.rr.com > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:07:27 -0500 > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > Folks, > Again, This is what is required to make it work and what was originally > supplied with the early style Edison Cygnet horn cranes. You dont need the > spring as long as you have the older style crane. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/HORN-CONNECTOR-EDISON-COLUMBIA-CYLINDER-PHONOGRAPH-/320611493258?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa5ef258a > > > Steve > > On Nov 9, 2010, at 12:57 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: > > > WTF is that all about??? > > John Robles > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jean-Charles Leblanc > > Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:51:17 > > To: > > Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > what do tou mein by no spring,that not new product,your suppose to sell it > > complete,and what is the price you never told me your price i am having > > trouble to get the price out of you people PS.and dose gramophomes is not > > miniature,and before shipping any thing i whant to be clear about everyting > > the price the shipping price and the description of any items is that > > clear,your shipping nothing before my autorisation is that clear. > > > >> From: steve_nor...@msn.com > >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > >> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:14:49 -0500 > >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >> > >> > >> People I know have one and it lifts up the reproducer one the one end of > >> the record, on the other is it way too heavy on a fireside. My idea is to > >> convert it to the new style. Thanks for the reply, I never gave this any > >> thought until they had the problem. > >> > >>> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:11:36 -0800 > >>> From: john9...@pacbell.net > >>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >>> > >>> I would not think that they would track well, without the 'give' of the > >>> spring. The rigid bolt connection seems as if it would be very stiff. For > >>> those who are unfamiliar with this early horn, I have posted a picture of > >>> the horn and crane and the suspension bolt at this link: > >>> http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Early%20Cygnet%20Horn/ > >>> John Robles > >>> > >>> --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Steven Medved wrote: > >>> > >>> From: Steven Medved > >>> Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >>> To: "phonolist" , "Phono-l" > >>> > >>> Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 6:08 PM > >>> > >>> > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these > >>> work without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look like > >>> a workable system > >>> to me. > >>> > >>> Steve > >>> ___ > >>> Phono-L mailing list > >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > >>> ___ > >>> Phono-L mailing list > >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > >> > >> ___ > >> Phono-L mailing list > >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
hello,i made up my mind now that evry it clear,i guest i wont buy any of your products,PS.dont send me any of dose gramophones i whont accept any of them so every that is clear for you,forget about evrey thing once again i dont whant to order any of your product. > From: ander...@tampabay.rr.com > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:07:27 -0500 > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > Folks, > Again, This is what is required to make it work and what was originally > supplied with the early style Edison Cygnet horn cranes. You dont need the > spring as long as you have the older style crane. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/HORN-CONNECTOR-EDISON-COLUMBIA-CYLINDER-PHONOGRAPH-/320611493258?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa5ef258a > > > Steve > > On Nov 9, 2010, at 12:57 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: > > > WTF is that all about??? > > John Robles > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jean-Charles Leblanc > > Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:51:17 > > To: > > Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > what do tou mein by no spring,that not new product,your suppose to sell it > > complete,and what is the price you never told me your price i am having > > trouble to get the price out of you people PS.and dose gramophomes is not > > miniature,and before shipping any thing i whant to be clear about everyting > > the price the shipping price and the description of any items is that > > clear,your shipping nothing before my autorisation is that clear. > > > >> From: steve_nor...@msn.com > >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > >> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:14:49 -0500 > >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >> > >> > >> People I know have one and it lifts up the reproducer one the one end of > >> the record, on the other is it way too heavy on a fireside. My idea is to > >> convert it to the new style. Thanks for the reply, I never gave this any > >> thought until they had the problem. > >> > >>> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:11:36 -0800 > >>> From: john9...@pacbell.net > >>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >>> > >>> I would not think that they would track well, without the 'give' of the > >>> spring. The rigid bolt connection seems as if it would be very stiff. For > >>> those who are unfamiliar with this early horn, I have posted a picture of > >>> the horn and crane and the suspension bolt at this link: > >>> http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Early%20Cygnet%20Horn/ > >>> John Robles > >>> > >>> --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Steven Medved wrote: > >>> > >>> From: Steven Medved > >>> Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > >>> To: "phonolist" , "Phono-l" > >>> > >>> Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 6:08 PM > >>> > >>> > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these > >>> work without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look like > >>> a workable system > >>> to me. > >>> > >>> Steve > >>> ___ > >>> Phono-L mailing list > >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > >>> ___ > >>> Phono-L mailing list > >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > >> > >> ___ > >> Phono-L mailing list > >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
Folks, Again, This is what is required to make it work and what was originally supplied with the early style Edison Cygnet horn cranes. You dont need the spring as long as you have the older style crane. http://cgi.ebay.com/HORN-CONNECTOR-EDISON-COLUMBIA-CYLINDER-PHONOGRAPH-/320611493258?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa5ef258a Steve On Nov 9, 2010, at 12:57 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: > WTF is that all about??? > John Robles > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -Original Message- > From: Jean-Charles Leblanc > Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:51:17 > To: > Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > what do tou mein by no spring,that not new product,your suppose to sell it > complete,and what is the price you never told me your price i am having > trouble to get the price out of you people PS.and dose gramophomes is not > miniature,and before shipping any thing i whant to be clear about everyting > the price the shipping price and the description of any items is that > clear,your shipping nothing before my autorisation is that clear. > >> From: steve_nor...@msn.com >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org >> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:14:49 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring >> >> >> People I know have one and it lifts up the reproducer one the one end of the >> record, on the other is it way too heavy on a fireside. My idea is to >> convert it to the new style. Thanks for the reply, I never gave this any >> thought until they had the problem. >> >>> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:11:36 -0800 >>> From: john9...@pacbell.net >>> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring >>> >>> I would not think that they would track well, without the 'give' of the >>> spring. The rigid bolt connection seems as if it would be very stiff. For >>> those who are unfamiliar with this early horn, I have posted a picture of >>> the horn and crane and the suspension bolt at this link: >>> http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Early%20Cygnet%20Horn/ >>> John Robles >>> >>> --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Steven Medved wrote: >>> >>> From: Steven Medved >>> Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring >>> To: "phonolist" , "Phono-l" >>> >>> Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 6:08 PM >>> >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these work >>> without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look like a >>> workable system >>> to me. >>> >>> Steve >>> ___ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>> ___ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
That's pretty much my experience too. Can't tell you how long I fudged with the rubber coupler to get it to play a full record! Pretty interesting setup, none the less. Loran On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Greg Bogantz wrote: > I have an early 10 panel cygnet horn and springless crane on an Edison > Fireside. As you surmise, the system doesn't work very well as the force > placed on the carriage by the horn varies with the position of the carriage. > It happens to work on my particular example because the rubber coupling from > my reproducer to the horn is old and somewhat loose. This allows the rubber > coupler to move vertically a bit as the carriage moves which results in a > more uniform carriage pressure. But this original setup was not > satisfactory, I'm sure, and that's why the later versions use the spring to > suspend the horn from the crane. > > Greg Bogantz > ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
Thanks to all for the wonderful help and information. Steve > From: gbogan...@charter.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:30:29 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > I have an early 10 panel cygnet horn and springless crane on an Edison > Fireside. As you surmise, the system doesn't work very well as the force > placed on the carriage by the horn varies with the position of the carriage. > It happens to work on my particular example because the rubber coupling from > my reproducer to the horn is old and somewhat loose. This allows the rubber > coupler to move vertically a bit as the carriage moves which results in a > more uniform carriage pressure. But this original setup was not > satisfactory, I'm sure, and that's why the later versions use the spring to > suspend the horn from the crane. > > Greg Bogantz > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Steven Medved" > To: "phonolist" ; "Phono-l" > > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:08 PM > Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > Hello, > > > > Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these > > work without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look like > > a workable system to me. > > > > Steve > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
WTF is that all about??? John Robles Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jean-Charles Leblanc Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:51:17 To: Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring what do tou mein by no spring,that not new product,your suppose to sell it complete,and what is the price you never told me your price i am having trouble to get the price out of you people PS.and dose gramophomes is not miniature,and before shipping any thing i whant to be clear about everyting the price the shipping price and the description of any items is that clear,your shipping nothing before my autorisation is that clear. > From: steve_nor...@msn.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:14:49 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > People I know have one and it lifts up the reproducer one the one end of the > record, on the other is it way too heavy on a fireside. My idea is to convert > it to the new style. Thanks for the reply, I never gave this any thought > until they had the problem. > > > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:11:36 -0800 > > From: john9...@pacbell.net > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > I would not think that they would track well, without the 'give' of the > > spring. The rigid bolt connection seems as if it would be very stiff. For > > those who are unfamiliar with this early horn, I have posted a picture of > > the horn and crane and the suspension bolt at this link: > > http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Early%20Cygnet%20Horn/ > > John Robles > > > > --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Steven Medved wrote: > > > > From: Steven Medved > > Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > To: "phonolist" , "Phono-l" > > > > Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 6:08 PM > > > > > > Hello, > > > > Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these work > > without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look like a > > workable system > > to me. > > > > Steve > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
what do tou mein by no spring,that not new product,your suppose to sell it complete,and what is the price you never told me your price i am having trouble to get the price out of you people PS.and dose gramophomes is not miniature,and before shipping any thing i whant to be clear about everyting the price the shipping price and the description of any items is that clear,your shipping nothing before my autorisation is that clear. > From: steve_nor...@msn.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:14:49 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > People I know have one and it lifts up the reproducer one the one end of the > record, on the other is it way too heavy on a fireside. My idea is to convert > it to the new style. Thanks for the reply, I never gave this any thought > until they had the problem. > > > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:11:36 -0800 > > From: john9...@pacbell.net > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > I would not think that they would track well, without the 'give' of the > > spring. The rigid bolt connection seems as if it would be very stiff. For > > those who are unfamiliar with this early horn, I have posted a picture of > > the horn and crane and the suspension bolt at this link: > > http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Early%20Cygnet%20Horn/ > > John Robles > > > > --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Steven Medved wrote: > > > > From: Steven Medved > > Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > To: "phonolist" , "Phono-l" > > > > Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 6:08 PM > > > > > > Hello, > > > > Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these work > > without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look like a > > workable system > > to me. > > > > Steve > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
I can send it to you later if you'd like to see it. John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: John Maeder Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 10:05:05 To: Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring Sorry John. All I have is my phone right now and can't see the pics for some reason. > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 06:42:09 -0800 > From: john9...@pacbell.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > If you look at the pictures at the link I posted yesterday, you can see there > was no way a spring could have been inserted between the suspension and the > capture nut. The capture nut is molded as part of the suspension bolt. > John Robles > > --- On Tue, 11/9/10, John Maeder wrote: > > From: John Maeder > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 6:11 AM > > Is it certain that there was never a compression spring fitted over the > threaded post between the crane and capture nut that would have allowed the > weight of the horn to float upon the reproducer and carriage? It would seem > that a springless support would be a rather obvious design flaw to such a > compulsive over-engineer as Edison. A loose spring could easily be lost and > thus not evident in surviving examples. Are there any original parts sheets > for this type of horn support? > > > From: steve_nor...@msn.com > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 08:47:35 -0500 > > Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > > From: gbogan...@charter.net > > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:30:29 -0500 > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > I have an early 10 panel cygnet horn and springless crane on an > > > Edison > > > Fireside. As you surmise, the system doesn't work very well as the force > > > placed on the carriage by the horn varies with the position of the > > > carriage. > > > It happens to work on my particular example because the rubber coupling > > > from > > > my reproducer to the horn is old and somewhat loose. This allows the > > > rubber > > > coupler to move vertically a bit as the carriage moves which results in a > > > more uniform carriage pressure. But this original setup was not > > > satisfactory, I'm sure, and that's why the later versions use the spring > > > to > > > suspend the horn from the crane. > > > > > > Greg Bogantz > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Steven Medved" > > > To: "phonolist" ; "Phono-l" > > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:08 PM > > > Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these > > > > work without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look > > > > like > > > > a workable system to me. > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > ___ > > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
Sorry John. All I have is my phone right now and can't see the pics for some reason. > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 06:42:09 -0800 > From: john9...@pacbell.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > If you look at the pictures at the link I posted yesterday, you can see there > was no way a spring could have been inserted between the suspension and the > capture nut. The capture nut is molded as part of the suspension bolt. > John Robles > > --- On Tue, 11/9/10, John Maeder wrote: > > From: John Maeder > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 6:11 AM > > Is it certain that there was never a compression spring fitted over the > threaded post between the crane and capture nut that would have allowed the > weight of the horn to float upon the reproducer and carriage? It would seem > that a springless support would be a rather obvious design flaw to such a > compulsive over-engineer as Edison. A loose spring could easily be lost and > thus not evident in surviving examples. Are there any original parts sheets > for this type of horn support? > > > From: steve_nor...@msn.com > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 08:47:35 -0500 > > Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > > From: gbogan...@charter.net > > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:30:29 -0500 > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > I have an early 10 panel cygnet horn and springless crane on an > > > Edison > > > Fireside. As you surmise, the system doesn't work very well as the force > > > placed on the carriage by the horn varies with the position of the > > > carriage. > > > It happens to work on my particular example because the rubber coupling > > > from > > > my reproducer to the horn is old and somewhat loose. This allows the > > > rubber > > > coupler to move vertically a bit as the carriage moves which results in a > > > more uniform carriage pressure. But this original setup was not > > > satisfactory, I'm sure, and that's why the later versions use the spring > > > to > > > suspend the horn from the crane. > > > > > > Greg Bogantz > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Steven Medved" > > > To: "phonolist" ; "Phono-l" > > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:08 PM > > > Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these > > > > work without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look > > > > like > > > > a workable system to me. > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > ___ > > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
If you look at the pictures at the link I posted yesterday, you can see there was no way a spring could have been inserted between the suspension and the capture nut. The capture nut is molded as part of the suspension bolt. John Robles --- On Tue, 11/9/10, John Maeder wrote: From: John Maeder Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 6:11 AM Is it certain that there was never a compression spring fitted over the threaded post between the crane and capture nut that would have allowed the weight of the horn to float upon the reproducer and carriage? It would seem that a springless support would be a rather obvious design flaw to such a compulsive over-engineer as Edison. A loose spring could easily be lost and thus not evident in surviving examples. Are there any original parts sheets for this type of horn support? > From: steve_nor...@msn.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 08:47:35 -0500 > Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > From: gbogan...@charter.net > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:30:29 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > I have an early 10 panel cygnet horn and springless crane on an Edison > > Fireside. As you surmise, the system doesn't work very well as the force > > placed on the carriage by the horn varies with the position of the > > carriage. > > It happens to work on my particular example because the rubber coupling > > from > > my reproducer to the horn is old and somewhat loose. This allows the > > rubber > > coupler to move vertically a bit as the carriage moves which results in a > > more uniform carriage pressure. But this original setup was not > > satisfactory, I'm sure, and that's why the later versions use the spring to > > suspend the horn from the crane. > > > > Greg Bogantz > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message - > > From: "Steven Medved" > > To: "phonolist" ; "Phono-l" > > > > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:08 PM > > Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these > > > work without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look like > > > a workable system to me. > > > > > > Steve > > > ___ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
Is it certain that there was never a compression spring fitted over the threaded post between the crane and capture nut that would have allowed the weight of the horn to float upon the reproducer and carriage? It would seem that a springless support would be a rather obvious design flaw to such a compulsive over-engineer as Edison. A loose spring could easily be lost and thus not evident in surviving examples. Are there any original parts sheets for this type of horn support? > From: steve_nor...@msn.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 08:47:35 -0500 > Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > From: gbogan...@charter.net > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:30:29 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > I have an early 10 panel cygnet horn and springless crane on an Edison > > Fireside. As you surmise, the system doesn't work very well as the force > > placed on the carriage by the horn varies with the position of the > > carriage. > > It happens to work on my particular example because the rubber coupling > > from > > my reproducer to the horn is old and somewhat loose. This allows the > > rubber > > coupler to move vertically a bit as the carriage moves which results in a > > more uniform carriage pressure. But this original setup was not > > satisfactory, I'm sure, and that's why the later versions use the spring to > > suspend the horn from the crane. > > > > Greg Bogantz > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message - > > From: "Steven Medved" > > To: "phonolist" ; "Phono-l" > > > > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:08 PM > > Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these > > > work without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look like > > > a workable system to me. > > > > > > Steve > > > ___ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
> From: gbogan...@charter.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:30:29 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > I have an early 10 panel cygnet horn and springless crane on an Edison > Fireside. As you surmise, the system doesn't work very well as the force > placed on the carriage by the horn varies with the position of the carriage. > It happens to work on my particular example because the rubber coupling from > my reproducer to the horn is old and somewhat loose. This allows the rubber > coupler to move vertically a bit as the carriage moves which results in a > more uniform carriage pressure. But this original setup was not > satisfactory, I'm sure, and that's why the later versions use the spring to > suspend the horn from the crane. > > Greg Bogantz > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Steven Medved" > To: "phonolist" ; "Phono-l" > > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:08 PM > Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > Hello, > > > > Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these > > work without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look like > > a workable system to me. > > > > Steve > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
> From: gbogan...@charter.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:30:29 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > I have an early 10 panel cygnet horn and springless crane on an Edison > Fireside. As you surmise, the system doesn't work very well as the force > placed on the carriage by the horn varies with the position of the carriage. > It happens to work on my particular example because the rubber coupling from > my reproducer to the horn is old and somewhat loose. This allows the rubber > coupler to move vertically a bit as the carriage moves which results in a > more uniform carriage pressure. But this original setup was not > satisfactory, I'm sure, and that's why the later versions use the spring to > suspend the horn from the crane. > > Greg Bogantz > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Steven Medved" > To: "phonolist" ; "Phono-l" > > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:08 PM > Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > > > > > Hello, > > > > Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these > > work without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look like > > a workable system to me. > > > > Steve > > ___ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
Folks, This is what is required to make it work. http://cgi.ebay.com/HORN-CONNECTOR-EDISON-COLUMBIA-CYLINDER-PHONOGRAPH-/320611493258?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa5ef258a Steve On Nov 8, 2010, at 10:14 PM, Steven Medved wrote: > > People I know have one and it lifts up the reproducer one the one end of the > record, on the other is it way too heavy on a fireside. My idea is to > convert it to the new style. Thanks for the reply, I never gave this any > thought until they had the problem. > >> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:11:36 -0800 >> From: john9...@pacbell.net >> To: phono-l@oldcrank.org >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring >> >> I would not think that they would track well, without the 'give' of the >> spring. The rigid bolt connection seems as if it would be very stiff. For >> those who are unfamiliar with this early horn, I have posted a picture of >> the horn and crane and the suspension bolt at this link: >> http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Early%20Cygnet%20Horn/ >> John Robles >> >> --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Steven Medved wrote: >> >> From: Steven Medved >> Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring >> To: "phonolist" , "Phono-l" >> Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 6:08 PM >> >> >> Hello, >> >> Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these work >> without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look like a >> workable system >> to me. >> >> Steve >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> ___ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
It can do that with the spring model too. Gotta adjust the height, and a Tizit is a good idea. Weight on the reproducer from the horn has to be considered too. John Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Steven Medved Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:14:49 To: Phono-l Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring People I know have one and it lifts up the reproducer one the one end of the record, on the other is it way too heavy on a fireside. My idea is to convert it to the new style. Thanks for the reply, I never gave this any thought until they had the problem. > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:11:36 -0800 > From: john9...@pacbell.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > I would not think that they would track well, without the 'give' of the > spring. The rigid bolt connection seems as if it would be very stiff. For > those who are unfamiliar with this early horn, I have posted a picture of the > horn and crane and the suspension bolt at this link: > http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Early%20Cygnet%20Horn/ > John Robles > > --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Steven Medved wrote: > > From: Steven Medved > Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > To: "phonolist" , "Phono-l" > Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 6:08 PM > > > Hello, > > Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these work > without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look like a > workable system > to me. > > Steve > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
I have an early 10 panel cygnet horn and springless crane on an Edison Fireside. As you surmise, the system doesn't work very well as the force placed on the carriage by the horn varies with the position of the carriage. It happens to work on my particular example because the rubber coupling from my reproducer to the horn is old and somewhat loose. This allows the rubber coupler to move vertically a bit as the carriage moves which results in a more uniform carriage pressure. But this original setup was not satisfactory, I'm sure, and that's why the later versions use the spring to suspend the horn from the crane. Greg Bogantz - Original Message - From: "Steven Medved" To: "phonolist" ; "Phono-l" Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:08 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring Hello, Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these work without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look like a workable system to me. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
People I know have one and it lifts up the reproducer one the one end of the record, on the other is it way too heavy on a fireside. My idea is to convert it to the new style. Thanks for the reply, I never gave this any thought until they had the problem. > Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:11:36 -0800 > From: john9...@pacbell.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > > I would not think that they would track well, without the 'give' of the > spring. The rigid bolt connection seems as if it would be very stiff. For > those who are unfamiliar with this early horn, I have posted a picture of the > horn and crane and the suspension bolt at this link: > http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Early%20Cygnet%20Horn/ > John Robles > > --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Steven Medved wrote: > > From: Steven Medved > Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring > To: "phonolist" , "Phono-l" > Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 6:08 PM > > > Hello, > > Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these work > without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look like a > workable system > to me. > > Steve > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > ___ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
I would not think that they would track well, without the 'give' of the spring. The rigid bolt connection seems as if it would be very stiff. For those who are unfamiliar with this early horn, I have posted a picture of the horn and crane and the suspension bolt at this link: http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Early%20Cygnet%20Horn/ John Robles --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Steven Medved wrote: From: Steven Medved Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring To: "phonolist" , "Phono-l" Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 6:08 PM Hello, Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these work without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look like a workable system to me. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
Hello, Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these work without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look like a workable system to me. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
