Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images [FIXED]

2017-03-03 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:

> Starting yesterday morning firefox-45.7.0 did not display images on
> certain web pages,

   Well, I rebuilt the appearance and bookmarks from scratch. Will never know
what broke, but at least it now works.

   I learned, too, that the 'classic' appearance (e.g., text rather than
pictures for those of us who can read) are no longer supported; they'll be
totally gone in firefox-57 this coming autumn. That's too bad, IMO. Ah,
well.

Thanks to all who offered help,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

2017-03-03 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:

> I guess now my task is to disable individual add-ons and see which one
> broke. Now I have a plan ...

   Now I would appreciate suggestions for restoring firefox as it was before.
What I did:

   1. mv ~/.mozilla to ~/.backup.mozilla
   2. start a new firefox and check a couple of web sites.
   3. rm -rf ~/.mozilla
   4. mv ~/.backup.mozilla ~/.mozilla

   What I see now is a fresh firefox with no settings that were present in
the original display/

   5. Copied ~/.mozilla from the 14 February 2017 backup; this was when it
was all working.

   But, I still get a brand-new firefox that does not seem to find the
contents of ~/.mozilla: extensions/  firefox/  mozver.dat  plugins/.
The firefox/ subdirectory has the old contents: 83alcj6t.default/  Crash
Reports/  n2x90tve.default/  profiles.ini. And the 83alcj65.defaults/
subdirectory has all the bookmarks, display setup, etc.

   What might I have done incorrectly that the contents of ~/.mozilla appear
to not be seen and used?

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

2017-03-03 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017, Don Buchholz wrote:

> May you've got some settings/preferences or add-ins tweaked ...

Don,

   Well, they were not deliberately tweaked by me. But, a clean firefox
displays correctly. I don't think it was a settings difference; at least,
there was no setting I changed Tuesday or Wednesday.

   I guess now my task is to disable individual add-ons and see which one
broke. Now I have a plan ...

Thanks very much,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

2017-03-03 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017, Bill Barry wrote:

> There used to be a Refresh Firefox feature that resets the preferences to
> default levels and does some other cleanup.

Bill,

   I've tried a bunch of things, but none explain why some sites are
completely uneffected, some completely affected, and some partially
affected. This makes it really difficult to diagnose. And, this started only
at the first of March; never happened before. (NB: the ides of March aren't
until the 15th).

Thanks,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

2017-03-03 Thread Don Buchholz
May you've got some settings/preferences or add-ins tweaked ...


1)  Close Firefox (and check process table to make sure nothing is still 
lingering).

2)  Rename your $HOME/.mozilla to something like $HOME/.OFF.mozilla.

3)  Make sure there is no $HOME/.firefox folder ... if there is, rename it too.


... just a shot in the dark.


- Don



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Subject: Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:

> This morning I tested these sites from a different host and they all
> displayed and worked as expected. So the problem is on my desktop
> server/workstation.

> I rebooted the system but this does not fix the problem. I'm at a loss
> where to look for the source of this new issue as I've not before
> encountered anything like it.

   Today I re-installed firefox-45.7.0 but this made no difference. I'm
looking for suggestions for where to look for this problem. It's not
consistent (for example, some images on bbc.com and reuters.com display,
some do not; all images on other news sites display, none display on other
news sites) and affects only this desktop.

   Since rebooting the system and re-installing firefox did not fix the
problem where else should I look?

Puzzled,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

2017-03-03 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017, Dick Steffens wrote:

> Have you looked at the page source to see if it reveals anything?

Dick,

   I see nothing informative there. But, it gave me an idea: perhaps it's
because I use adblock-plus. So, I turned it off for that site and sure
enough -- the ads were not visible either. :-) Turned on adblock-plus
because that's not the issue.

Thanks,

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Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

2017-03-03 Thread Bill Barry
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Rich Shepard  wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Mar 2017, Bill Barry wrote:
>
>> Did you try Ctrl-Shift-R on the page in question. This loads a completely
>> new page, bypassing the cache.
>
> Bill,
>
>Just tried this but there's no difference. This is quite a challenge, and
> frustrating, too.
>
>Keep the suggestions coming!
>

There used to be a Refresh Firefox feature that resets the preferences
to default levels and does some other cleanup. I don't see it in my
current version, but you might still have it.

https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Procedures-to-diagnose-and-fix/Reset-Firefox-preferences-to-troubleshoot-and-fix-problems/ta-p/1340

There is also the choice of restarting Firefox with Add-Ons disabled
which you can get to by going to the url about:support  . This might
or might not apply to you.

Bill
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Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

2017-03-03 Thread Dick Steffens
On 03/03/2017 09:33 AM, Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Mar 2017, Bill Barry wrote:
>
>> Did you try Ctrl-Shift-R on the page in question. This loads a completely
>> new page, bypassing the cache.
> Bill,
>
> Just tried this but there's no difference. This is quite a challenge, and
> frustrating, too.
>
> Keep the suggestions coming!

Have you looked at the page source to see if it reveals anything? In my 
version of Firefox [51.0.5 (64 bit) Mozilla Firefox for Ubuntu] it's 
under Tools > Web Developer, or you can get it with U.

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Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

2017-03-03 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017, Bill Barry wrote:

> Did you try Ctrl-Shift-R on the page in question. This loads a completely
> new page, bypassing the cache.

Bill,

   Just tried this but there's no difference. This is quite a challenge, and
frustrating, too.

   Keep the suggestions coming!

Thanks,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

2017-03-03 Thread Bill Barry
On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 7:35 AM, Rich Shepard  wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:
>
>> This morning I tested these sites from a different host and they all
>> displayed and worked as expected. So the problem is on my desktop
>> server/workstation.
>
>> I rebooted the system but this does not fix the problem. I'm at a loss
>> where to look for the source of this new issue as I've not before
>> encountered anything like it.
>
>Today I re-installed firefox-45.7.0 but this made no difference. I'm
> looking for suggestions for where to look for this problem. It's not
> consistent (for example, some images on bbc.com and reuters.com display,
> some do not; all images on other news sites display, none display on other
> news sites) and affects only this desktop.
>
>Since rebooting the system and re-installing firefox did not fix the
> problem where else should I look?
>


Did you try Ctrl -Shift -R  on the page in question. This loads a
completely new page, bypassing the cache.

Bill
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Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

2017-03-03 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017, Chuck Hast wrote:

> I tested both sites and they both came up clean. I am no longer seeing
> this, not sure what to say about it. I at first thought it was my system
> too when I first saw it but like I said earlier it was on both my
> machines.

   Well, perhaps it has something to do with Frontier Communications or my
ISP. I'll ask tech support at the latter about this. But, it's an issue on
only one host here out of 3 currently up and running.

Thanks,

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Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

2017-03-03 Thread Chuck Hast
Rich,
I tested both sites and they both came up clean. I am no longer seeing this,
not sure what to say about it. I at first thought it was my system too when
I
first saw it but like I said earlier it was on both my machines.


On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 7:35 AM, Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:
>
> > This morning I tested these sites from a different host and they all
> > displayed and worked as expected. So the problem is on my desktop
> > server/workstation.
>
> > I rebooted the system but this does not fix the problem. I'm at a loss
> > where to look for the source of this new issue as I've not before
> > encountered anything like it.
>
>Today I re-installed firefox-45.7.0 but this made no difference. I'm
> looking for suggestions for where to look for this problem. It's not
> consistent (for example, some images on bbc.com and reuters.com display,
> some do not; all images on other news sites display, none display on other
> news sites) and affects only this desktop.
>
>Since rebooting the system and re-installing firefox did not fix the
> problem where else should I look?
>
> Puzzled,
>
> Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

2017-03-03 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:

> This morning I tested these sites from a different host and they all
> displayed and worked as expected. So the problem is on my desktop
> server/workstation.

> I rebooted the system but this does not fix the problem. I'm at a loss
> where to look for the source of this new issue as I've not before
> encountered anything like it.

   Today I re-installed firefox-45.7.0 but this made no difference. I'm
looking for suggestions for where to look for this problem. It's not
consistent (for example, some images on bbc.com and reuters.com display,
some do not; all images on other news sites display, none display on other
news sites) and affects only this desktop.

   Since rebooting the system and re-installing firefox did not fix the
problem where else should I look?

Puzzled,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

2017-03-03 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Chuck Hast wrote:

> I had I think it was linkdin got idiot for a bit this morning but it came
> back. I am doing job hunting, and was seeing those weird screens there for
> a while. It is bad enough dealing with Hughesnet that can not seem to get
> links to some sites that I am trying to reach, I have a wait a bit and
> THEN I can get there. I hope to soon find a job, and get moved to some
> place where we do not have to live with Hughesnet, whattapieaceofcrap...

Chuck,

   It's encouraging to read that I can expect things to clear up here, too.
What puzzles me is why I see issues on the desktop running
Slackware-14.1/32-bit but not on a laptop running Slackware-14.2/64-bit.
Both running the same version of firefox.

   Does Longview have coffee shops or a library with free WiFi access that
gives you better connections?

   Having been in the job market more than a few times many years ago I
understand your frustration and wish you the best in quickly finding a new
position.

Rich

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Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

2017-03-02 Thread Chuck Hast
I had I think it was linkdin got idiot for a bit this morning but it came
back. I am
doing job hunting, and was seeing those weird screens there for a while. It
is
bad enough dealing with Hughesnet that can not seem to get links to some
sites that I am trying to reach, I have a wait a bit and THEN I can get
there. I
hope to soon find a job, and get moved to some place where we do not have
to live with Hughesnet, whattapieaceofcrap...


On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Chuck Hast wrote:
>
> > I saw that also, did the usual close down, no joy, reboot, no joy, then I
> > tested from another machine and got the same thing so figured it was "out
> > yonder somewhere". I still have a couple that come up like that but most
> > of them are back to normal. This was on both FF and Chrome. Looks like WU
> > is back. I see it all correctly now.
>
>Thanks, Chuck. Still no improvements here. Guess I'll wait and see if
> things get better on the desktop. Can use firefox on the laptop if
> necessary.
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

2017-03-02 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Chuck Hast wrote:

> I saw that also, did the usual close down, no joy, reboot, no joy, then I
> tested from another machine and got the same thing so figured it was "out
> yonder somewhere". I still have a couple that come up like that but most
> of them are back to normal. This was on both FF and Chrome. Looks like WU
> is back. I see it all correctly now.

   Thanks, Chuck. Still no improvements here. Guess I'll wait and see if
things get better on the desktop. Can use firefox on the laptop if
necessary.

Thanks,

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Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

2017-03-02 Thread Chuck Hast
I saw that also, did the usual close down, no joy, reboot, no joy, then I
tested
from another machine and got the same thing so figured it was "out yonder
somewhere". I still have a couple that come up like that but most of them
are
back to normal. This was on both FF and Chrome. Looks like WU is back. I
see it all correctly now.

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Rich Shepard 
wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Larry Brigman wrote:
>
> > I saw a report on the AWS S3 outage. Lots of companies place their static
> > files in S3 storage. This is probably what hit you and a bunch of other
> > sites.
>
> Larry,
>
>I saw that report, too. That was on Tuesday, the last day sites
> displayed
> correctly here. If it's a cache issue (because these sites are still not
> correctly displaying on the desktop, but do on the laptop) that should have
> been cleared during the rebooting. No?
>
>Think I'll manually clear the cache and see if that makes a difference.
>
> Thanks again,
>
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Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

2017-03-02 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:

> Think I'll manually clear the cache and see if that makes a difference.

   Sigh. No joy.

   Other ideas welcome.

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Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

2017-03-02 Thread Rich Shepard
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017, Larry Brigman wrote:

> I saw a report on the AWS S3 outage. Lots of companies place their static
> files in S3 storage. This is probably what hit you and a bunch of other
> sites.

Larry,

   I saw that report, too. That was on Tuesday, the last day sites displayed
correctly here. If it's a cache issue (because these sites are still not
correctly displaying on the desktop, but do on the laptop) that should have
been cleared during the rebooting. No?

   Think I'll manually clear the cache and see if that makes a difference.

Thanks again,

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Re: [PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

2017-03-02 Thread Larry Brigman
I saw a report on the AWS S3 outage.  Lots of companies place their static
files in S3 storage.  This is probably what hit you and a bunch of other
sites.

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 7:54 AM, Rich Shepard 
wrote:

>Starting yesterday morning firefox-45.7.0 did not display images on
> certain web pages, for example, the radar on wunderground.com and all
> images
> on oregonlive.com. When I try to load those pages using
> chromium-54.0.2840.100 they won't load at all. Other web sites also have
> issues: linkedin.com displays no images and after I log in there's a
> 'busy'
> icon continuously displaying without end; amazon.com lets me log in but
> not
> log out.
>
>This morning I tested these sites from a different host and they all
> displayed and worked as expected. So the problem is on my desktop
> server/workstation.
>
>I rebooted the system but this does not fix the problem. I'm at a loss
> where to look for the source of this new issue as I've not before
> encountered anything like it.
>
>I'd like your thoughts on diagnosing the problem so I can resolve it.
>
> Rich
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[PLUG] Web browsers not displaying images

2017-03-02 Thread Rich Shepard
   Starting yesterday morning firefox-45.7.0 did not display images on
certain web pages, for example, the radar on wunderground.com and all images
on oregonlive.com. When I try to load those pages using
chromium-54.0.2840.100 they won't load at all. Other web sites also have
issues: linkedin.com displays no images and after I log in there's a 'busy'
icon continuously displaying without end; amazon.com lets me log in but not
log out.

   This morning I tested these sites from a different host and they all
displayed and worked as expected. So the problem is on my desktop
server/workstation.

   I rebooted the system but this does not fix the problem. I'm at a loss
where to look for the source of this new issue as I've not before
encountered anything like it.

   I'd like your thoughts on diagnosing the problem so I can resolve it.

Rich

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