subject:"windows"

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On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 6:26 PM Michael  wrote:

> found it! it is keys .
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 1:40 PM Michael  wrote:
>
>> Could someone let me know where to go to get it?
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Re: I thought i saved the resource to get cheap Windows licenses

found it! it is keys .

On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 1:40 PM Michael  wrote:

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Re: will windows fit?

Thanks for the tip!

On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 4:13 PM  wrote:

> I asked Google "how much disk space is needed for windows 11",
> and it told me:
>
> ---
> 64 GB
> Storage: 64 GB or larger storage device. If your PC does not have a
> large enough storage drive, there are sometimes options for upgrading
> the drive.
> ---
>
> ChatGPT said :
>
> ---
> The disk space required for Windows 11 can vary depending on the
> specific version and any additional features or applications you may
> want to install. However, Microsoft has provided minimum system
> requirements for Windows 11, including disk space. As of my last update,
> Microsoft recommends a minimum of 64 GB of storage for Windows 11.
> However, it's advisable to have more space available, especially if you
> plan to install additional software, store files, or allow for system
> updates and temporary files.
> ---
>
> Makes me nostalgic for the box set of 4 or 5 micro floppies for RedHat
> 4.2 circa 1998 Yikes!!
>
> Don't forget you will need 8GB of RAM at a minimum.
>
>
> Keith
>
>
>
> On 2024-05-28 12:28, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > as I expected
> >
> > On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 2:28 PM rusty via PLUG-discuss
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> hmm.  I thought he was asking about WINDOWs fitting.  But while
> >> we're on the topic of Linux fitting, here's my Linux DF for / and
> >> /home:
> >>
> >> /dev/sda237G   26G  9.6G  73% /
> >> /dev/sdb2   1.8T  1.7T   18G  99% /home
> >>
> >> So, ignoring home, my laptop Linux Mint fits fine in 30G.  And I've
> >> got LOTS of 'junk' loaded.  At my last job, I allocated around 30G
> >> for the Linux partition, if I remember right, which was pretty much
> >> a default install of Linux Mint.
> >>
> >> That being said, here are some sizes for the virtual PCs I've
> >> created for the class I teach:
> >>
> >> Ubuntu2.2: 28.92 GB
> >> Ubuntu2.2: 25.85 GB.
> >> MicroOS: 34.46GB
> >> EdUbuntu: 24.0GB
> >> CentOS: 30.15GB
> >>
> >> Note that these were 'mostly' 'standard' installs, but obviously
> >> YMMV! (especially since MY mileage varied!)
> >>
> >> Now, I also did a Windows install, W11 or W10 I think, and I don't
> >> think I added much to it, and it took 50.0GB
> >>
> >> So, for Windows I agree that you're probably out of luck getting it
> >> in to 30GB! ;-)
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 14:02, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> z via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 28 May 2024 12:47:41 -0500 (CDT) May
> >> 28, 2024 12:42:39 Michael via PLUG-discuss
> >> : I got a 30 GB drive. Will windows
> >> fit on such a drive?
> >
> >> likely no
> >  It won't fit *my* Void Linux setup either. Here's the result of df -h
> > on my Void Linux computer: /dev/nvme0n1p1 1.4T 62G 1.2T 5% / I'm
> > pretty sure if I just installed a CLI Linux with no applications it
> > would fit in 32GB, but with modern browsers and X and the like, no.
> > SteveT Steve Litt Autumn 2023 featured book: Rapid Learning for the
> > 21st Century http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21
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Re: will windows fit?

2024-05-28 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss


I asked Google "how much disk space is needed for windows 11",
and it told me:

---
64 GB
Storage: 64 GB or larger storage device. If your PC does not have a 
large enough storage drive, there are sometimes options for upgrading 
the drive.

---

ChatGPT said :

---
The disk space required for Windows 11 can vary depending on the 
specific version and any additional features or applications you may 
want to install. However, Microsoft has provided minimum system 
requirements for Windows 11, including disk space. As of my last update, 
Microsoft recommends a minimum of 64 GB of storage for Windows 11. 
However, it's advisable to have more space available, especially if you 
plan to install additional software, store files, or allow for system 
updates and temporary files.

---

Makes me nostalgic for the box set of 4 or 5 micro floppies for RedHat 
4.2 circa 1998 Yikes!!


Don't forget you will need 8GB of RAM at a minimum.


Keith



On 2024-05-28 12:28, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:

as I expected

On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 2:28 PM rusty via PLUG-discuss
 wrote:


hmm.  I thought he was asking about WINDOWs fitting.  But while
we're on the topic of Linux fitting, here's my Linux DF for / and
/home:

/dev/sda237G   26G  9.6G  73% /
/dev/sdb2   1.8T  1.7T   18G  99% /home

So, ignoring home, my laptop Linux Mint fits fine in 30G.  And I've
got LOTS of 'junk' loaded.  At my last job, I allocated around 30G
for the Linux partition, if I remember right, which was pretty much
a default install of Linux Mint.

That being said, here are some sizes for the virtual PCs I've
created for the class I teach:

Ubuntu2.2: 28.92 GB
Ubuntu2.2: 25.85 GB.
MicroOS: 34.46GB
EdUbuntu: 24.0GB
CentOS: 30.15GB

Note that these were 'mostly' 'standard' installs, but obviously
YMMV! (especially since MY mileage varied!)

Now, I also did a Windows install, W11 or W10 I think, and I don't
think I added much to it, and it took 50.0GB

So, for Windows I agree that you're probably out of luck getting it
in to 30GB! ;-)

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z via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 28 May 2024 12:47:41 -0500 (CDT) May
28, 2024 12:42:39 Michael via PLUG-discuss
: I got a 30 GB drive. Will windows
fit on such a drive?



likely no

 It won't fit *my* Void Linux setup either. Here's the result of df -h
on my Void Linux computer: /dev/nvme0n1p1 1.4T 62G 1.2T 5% / I'm
pretty sure if I just installed a CLI Linux with no applications it
would fit in 32GB, but with modern browsers and X and the like, no.
SteveT Steve Litt Autumn 2023 featured book: Rapid Learning for the
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Re: will windows fit?

as I expected

On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 2:28 PM rusty via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> hmm.  I thought he was asking about WINDOWs fitting.  But while we're on
> the topic of Linux fitting, here's my Linux DF for / and /home:
>
> /dev/sda237G   26G  9.6G  73% /
> /dev/sdb2   1.8T  1.7T   18G  99% /home
>
> So, ignoring home, my laptop Linux Mint fits fine in 30G.  And I've got
> LOTS of 'junk' loaded.  At my last job, I allocated around 30G for the
> Linux partition, if I remember right, which was pretty much a default
> install of Linux Mint.
>
> That being said, here are some sizes for the virtual PCs I've created for
> the class I teach:
>
> Ubuntu2.2: 28.92 GB
> Ubuntu2.2: 25.85 GB.
> MicroOS: 34.46GB
> EdUbuntu: 24.0GB
> CentOS: 30.15GB
>
> Note that these were 'mostly' 'standard' installs, but obviously YMMV!
> (especially since MY mileage varied!)
>
> Now, I also did a Windows install, W11 or W10 I think, and I don't think I
> added much to it, and it took 50.0GB
>
> So, for Windows I agree that you're probably out of luck getting it in to
> 30GB! ;-)
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 14:02, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
> z via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 28 May 2024 12:47:41 -0500 (CDT)
>
> May 28, 2024 12:42:39 Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>:
>
> I got a 30 GB drive. Will windows fit on such a drive?
>
> likely no
>
> It won't fit *my* Void Linux setup either. Here's the result of df -h on
> my Void Linux computer: /dev/nvme0n1p1 1.4T 62G 1.2T 5% / I'm pretty sure
> if I just installed a CLI Linux with no applications it would fit in 32GB,
> but with modern browsers and X and the like, no. SteveT Steve Litt Autumn
> 2023 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21
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Re: will windows fit?

2024-05-28 Thread rusty via PLUG-discuss

hmm.  I thought he was asking about WINDOWs fitting.  But while we're 
on the topic of Linux fitting, here's my Linux DF for / and /home:


/dev/sda237G   26G  9.6G  73% /
/dev/sdb2   1.8T  1.7T   18G  99% /home

So, ignoring home, my laptop Linux Mint fits fine in 30G.  And I've got 
LOTS of 'junk' loaded.  At my last job, I allocated around 30G for the 
Linux partition, if I remember right, which was pretty much a default 
install of Linux Mint.


That being said, here are some sizes for the virtual PCs I've created 
for the class I teach:


Ubuntu2.2: 28.92 GB
Ubuntu2.2: 25.85 GB.
MicroOS: 34.46GB
EdUbuntu: 24.0GB
CentOS: 30.15GB

Note that these were 'mostly' 'standard' installs, but obviously YMMV! 
(especially since MY mileage varied!)


Now, I also did a Windows install, W11 or W10 I think, and I don't 
think I added much to it, and it took 50.0GB


So, for Windows I agree that you're probably out of luck getting it in 
to 30GB! ;-)




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z via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 28 May 2024 12:47:41 -0500 (CDT)




May 28, 2024 12:42:39 Michael via PLUG-discuss
<mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>>:



 I got a 30 GB drive. Will windows fit on such a drive?



likely no


It won't fit *my* Void Linux setup either. Here's the result of df -h
on my Void Linux computer:

/dev/nvme0n1p1  1.4T   62G  1.2T   5% /

I'm pretty sure if I just installed a CLI Linux with no applications 
it

would fit in 32GB, but with modern browsers and X and the like, no.

SteveT

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Re: will windows fit?

2024-05-28 Thread trent shipley via PLUG-discuss

I've got a Surface Pro 7 with 8Gbyte RAM and 128 GB SSD with Windows 11
beta.   You can browse the web, fill out forms. listen to music.   You
can't fit *365 on it.   Even if a modern Windows version fit, it would be
very constrained.

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> likely no
>
> May 28, 2024 12:42:39 Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>:
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> I got a 30 GB drive. Will windows fit on such a drive?
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Re: will windows fit?

2024-05-28 Thread z via PLUG-discuss

likely no

May 28, 2024 12:42:39 Michael via PLUG-discuss 
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> I got a 30 GB drive. Will windows fit on such a drive?
> 
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will windows fit?

I got a 30 GB drive. Will windows fit on such a drive?


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I thought i saved the resource to get cheap Windows licenses

Could someone let me know where to go to get it?

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windows keys

2023-09-13 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss

thanks for turning me on to
supp...@gkeys24.com
I made a mistake though. I didn't bookmark the page. Would someone provide
me with the home page to the windows keys?
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Re: windows

2023-09-05 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss



My wife's computer went from 10 Pro to 11 Pro for free.  I'm thinking 
free as in no license fee.  I did not spend much time on it however my 
take is somethings are rearranged and it is still Win 10 with a 
facelift.  I did not find anything significant. Maybe Google will say 
otherwise.




On 2023-09-05 03:42, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:

how cool. microsoft decided to upgrade my computer from windows10 home
to windows11 pro. whatever that means. so what benefits will I see on
my laptop?

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windows

2023-09-05 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss

how cool. microsoft decided to upgrade my computer from windows10 home to
windows11 pro. whatever that means. so what benefits will I see on my
laptop?

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Re: O/T : Windows WIFI not connecting

2023-08-31 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss


Thank you to all who replied and all your suggestions.

It is somewhat unclear what happened because I used no diagnostics to 
fix the issue.


As you might recall the computer in question is my wife's Dell that is 3 
or 4 years old.  Since it was new it has been slow.  I assumed it was 
the WiFi. Then it became extremely slow. After determining (PLUG help) 
it was a RAM issue (it only had 4Gb of RAM) I upgraded the computer to 
32Gb of RAM. I upgraded to 32Gb because at some point in the future I 
will inherit the box. The computer was peppy for about a month and then 
the computer would not "connect" to the Internet. It showed in my 
router's access control so it seems the router was seeing it.


At the same time the power buttons were showing that windows wanted to 
update the O/S.


Since I was unable access the Internet I moved the box into my office 
and connected it to the router via Ethernet.  I finally had access to 
the Internet and started what I thought was an update and turned out to 
be an upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 11. It took about an hour and a 
quarter.


I turned the computer on and off several times and it displayed it 
wanted to conduct an update.  About 45 minutes later is had completed 
the update process.


After some fumbling around I was able to get WIFI to work and returned 
the computer to my wife's office. She did what she always does all day 
yesterday without an issue.


Windows 11 does not seem to be all that different from Windows 10.

I assume what might have happened was due to the limited amount of RAM 
the updates were not applied or may not have been applied correctly.


In the end I got a free copy of Windows 11 and now my wife's computer is 
running well.


Any thought are much appreciated.

Keith







On 2023-08-28 17:48, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote:

see if you can run this command

netsh wlan show wlanreport

and find that report.
it should be in html form

 On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 05:46:44 PM MST, greg zegan via
PLUG-discuss  wrote:

Can you do a ipconfig /all and see if a wireless interface is listed
there?
what IP address is showing for that?

Device manager on that will show any conflicts with the drivers if at
all.
EventViewer may show something

 On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 08:41:29 PM EDT, JD Austin via
PLUG-discuss  wrote:

Not sure if I read this right but if it's a laptop many of them have a
switch that turns off Wi-Fi. I've had customers mistakenly put that
switch and no matter what they do in software could make it turn on. A
work around for that issue if it's a problem with it Wi-Fi hardware is
to get a USB dongle and connect using that.

On Mon, Aug 28, 2023, 5:13 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
 wrote:


Thanks!!  I've disabled the WIFI and enabled it several times.  I
hope I
do not have to replace the WIFI card.  However I am along for the
ride...

Moved box into my office and will fire up on Ethernet in a bit.
Have a
couple things to take care of first.

Thanks for your input!!

Keith

On 2023-08-28 17:04, Donald Cha. via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Your Wife's computer, turn off wifi, turn back on using management
properties. Could also be wifi card needs replaced.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android [1]


On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 6:53 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
 wrote:
Thanks for your reply!!

I have not tried Ethernet yet.  That would require me digging
through my
closet to find a long cable that might reach the other room or I
might
have to relocate the computer into my cluttered home office...

Was

hoping for some simple solution and if not I will connect via
Ethernet.

I'm reading I might have a corrupt driver that will require
Ethernet. or maybe a thumb drive.  At that point I will want

to

go
with Ethernet, which I think might make the fix easier.

On 2023-08-28 15:39, Andrew McRobb wrote:

Dumb question, but does it work when you connect via ethernet

cable or

is it only wifi?

On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 3:33 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
 wrote:


Hi,

Need some help.  My wife's computer again.  All was well until

she

tried
to surf the Internet this morning.  This computer has been
configured on
my network for over 3 years.

It is a Win 10 Pro box.

- I tried the windows troubleshooter and it said it was

resetting

the
driver.
- Checked my router and the computer shows up in the access

control

list.
- Changed the WIFI password and it says it authenticates and

then

says
there is no connection.
- I have a Windows laptop that is configured to use WIFI and it
works.
- I cannot ping my wife's computer from my Linux desktop.
- I've cycled everything multiple time.

In searching the Internet it basically tells me to do what I

have

already done.

Any words of wisdom are much appreciated.

Thanks!!
Keith
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Re: O/T : Windows WIFI not connecting

2023-08-28 Thread greg zegan via PLUG-discuss

 see if you can run this command
netsh wlan show wlanreport

and find that report.it should be in html formOn Monday, August 28, 2023 at 
05:46:44 PM MST, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss  
wrote:  
 
  Can you do a ipconfig /all and see if a wireless interface is listed 
there?what IP address is showing for that?
Device manager on that will show any conflicts with the drivers if at 
all.EventViewer may show something
On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 08:41:29 PM EDT, JD Austin via PLUG-discuss 
 wrote:  
 
 Not sure if I read this right but if it's a laptop many of them have a switch 
that turns off Wi-Fi. I've had customers mistakenly put that switch and no 
matter what they do in software could make it turn on. A work around for that 
issue if it's a problem with it Wi-Fi hardware is to get a USB dongle and 
connect using that.
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023, 5:13 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss 
 wrote:

Thanks!!  I've disabled the WIFI and enabled it several times.  I hope I 
do not have to replace the WIFI card.  However I am along for the 
ride...

Moved box into my office and will fire up on Ethernet in a bit.  Have a 
couple things to take care of first.

Thanks for your input!!

Keith


On 2023-08-28 17:04, Donald Cha. via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> Your Wife's computer, turn off wifi, turn back on using management
> properties. Could also be wifi card needs replaced.
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android [1]
> 
>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 6:53 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>>  wrote:
>> Thanks for your reply!!
>> 
>> I have not tried Ethernet yet.  That would require me digging
>> through my
>> closet to find a long cable that might reach the other room or I
>> might
>> have to relocate the computer into my cluttered home office... Was
>> hoping for some simple solution and if not I will connect via
>> Ethernet.
>> 
>> I'm reading I might have a corrupt driver that will require
>> Ethernet. or maybe a thumb drive.  At that point I will want to
>> go
>> with Ethernet, which I think might make the fix easier.
>> 
>> On 2023-08-28 15:39, Andrew McRobb wrote:
>>> Dumb question, but does it work when you connect via ethernet
>> cable or
>>> is it only wifi?
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 3:33 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Need some help.  My wife's computer again.  All was well until
>> she
>>>> tried
>>>> to surf the Internet this morning.  This computer has been
>>>> configured on
>>>> my network for over 3 years.
>>>> 
>>>> It is a Win 10 Pro box.
>>>> 
>>>> - I tried the windows troubleshooter and it said it was resetting
>>>> the
>>>> driver.
>>>> - Checked my router and the computer shows up in the access
>> control
>>>> list.
>>>> - Changed the WIFI password and it says it authenticates and then
>>>> says
>>>> there is no connection.
>>>> - I have a Windows laptop that is configured to use WIFI and it
>>>> works.
>>>> - I cannot ping my wife's computer from my Linux desktop.
>>>> - I've cycled everything multiple time.
>>>> 
>>>> In searching the Internet it basically tells me to do what I have
>>>> already done.
>>>> 
>>>> Any words of wisdom are much appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!!
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Re: O/T : Windows WIFI not connecting

2023-08-28 Thread greg zegan via PLUG-discuss

 Can you do a ipconfig /all and see if a wireless interface is listed 
there?what IP address is showing for that?
Device manager on that will show any conflicts with the drivers if at 
all.EventViewer may show something
On Monday, August 28, 2023 at 08:41:29 PM EDT, JD Austin via PLUG-discuss 
 wrote:  
 
 Not sure if I read this right but if it's a laptop many of them have a switch 
that turns off Wi-Fi. I've had customers mistakenly put that switch and no 
matter what they do in software could make it turn on. A work around for that 
issue if it's a problem with it Wi-Fi hardware is to get a USB dongle and 
connect using that.
On Mon, Aug 28, 2023, 5:13 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss 
 wrote:

Thanks!!  I've disabled the WIFI and enabled it several times.  I hope I 
do not have to replace the WIFI card.  However I am along for the 
ride...

Moved box into my office and will fire up on Ethernet in a bit.  Have a 
couple things to take care of first.

Thanks for your input!!

Keith


On 2023-08-28 17:04, Donald Cha. via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> Your Wife's computer, turn off wifi, turn back on using management
> properties. Could also be wifi card needs replaced.
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android [1]
> 
>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 6:53 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>>  wrote:
>> Thanks for your reply!!
>> 
>> I have not tried Ethernet yet.  That would require me digging
>> through my
>> closet to find a long cable that might reach the other room or I
>> might
>> have to relocate the computer into my cluttered home office... Was
>> hoping for some simple solution and if not I will connect via
>> Ethernet.
>> 
>> I'm reading I might have a corrupt driver that will require
>> Ethernet. or maybe a thumb drive.  At that point I will want to
>> go
>> with Ethernet, which I think might make the fix easier.
>> 
>> On 2023-08-28 15:39, Andrew McRobb wrote:
>>> Dumb question, but does it work when you connect via ethernet
>> cable or
>>> is it only wifi?
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 3:33 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Need some help.  My wife's computer again.  All was well until
>> she
>>>> tried
>>>> to surf the Internet this morning.  This computer has been
>>>> configured on
>>>> my network for over 3 years.
>>>> 
>>>> It is a Win 10 Pro box.
>>>> 
>>>> - I tried the windows troubleshooter and it said it was resetting
>>>> the
>>>> driver.
>>>> - Checked my router and the computer shows up in the access
>> control
>>>> list.
>>>> - Changed the WIFI password and it says it authenticates and then
>>>> says
>>>> there is no connection.
>>>> - I have a Windows laptop that is configured to use WIFI and it
>>>> works.
>>>> - I cannot ping my wife's computer from my Linux desktop.
>>>> - I've cycled everything multiple time.
>>>> 
>>>> In searching the Internet it basically tells me to do what I have
>>>> already done.
>>>> 
>>>> Any words of wisdom are much appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!!
>>>> Keith
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Re: O/T : Windows WIFI not connecting

2023-08-28 Thread JD Austin via PLUG-discuss

Not sure if I read this right but if it's a laptop many of them have a
switch that turns off Wi-Fi. I've had customers mistakenly put that switch
and no matter what they do in software could make it turn on. A work around
for that issue if it's a problem with it Wi-Fi hardware is to get a USB
dongle and connect using that.

On Mon, Aug 28, 2023, 5:13 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> Thanks!!  I've disabled the WIFI and enabled it several times.  I hope I
> do not have to replace the WIFI card.  However I am along for the
> ride...
>
> Moved box into my office and will fire up on Ethernet in a bit.  Have a
> couple things to take care of first.
>
> Thanks for your input!!
>
> Keith
>
>
> On 2023-08-28 17:04, Donald Cha. via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > Your Wife's computer, turn off wifi, turn back on using management
> > properties. Could also be wifi card needs replaced.
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android [1]
> >
> >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 6:53 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
> >>  wrote:
> >> Thanks for your reply!!
> >>
> >> I have not tried Ethernet yet.  That would require me digging
> >> through my
> >> closet to find a long cable that might reach the other room or I
> >> might
> >> have to relocate the computer into my cluttered home office... Was
> >> hoping for some simple solution and if not I will connect via
> >> Ethernet.
> >>
> >> I'm reading I might have a corrupt driver that will require
> >> Ethernet. or maybe a thumb drive.  At that point I will want to
> >> go
> >> with Ethernet, which I think might make the fix easier.
> >>
> >> On 2023-08-28 15:39, Andrew McRobb wrote:
> >>> Dumb question, but does it work when you connect via ethernet
> >> cable or
> >>> is it only wifi?
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 3:33 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> Need some help.  My wife's computer again.  All was well until
> >> she
> >>>> tried
> >>>> to surf the Internet this morning.  This computer has been
> >>>> configured on
> >>>> my network for over 3 years.
> >>>>
> >>>> It is a Win 10 Pro box.
> >>>>
> >>>> - I tried the windows troubleshooter and it said it was resetting
> >>>> the
> >>>> driver.
> >>>> - Checked my router and the computer shows up in the access
> >> control
> >>>> list.
> >>>> - Changed the WIFI password and it says it authenticates and then
> >>>> says
> >>>> there is no connection.
> >>>> - I have a Windows laptop that is configured to use WIFI and it
> >>>> works.
> >>>> - I cannot ping my wife's computer from my Linux desktop.
> >>>> - I've cycled everything multiple time.
> >>>>
> >>>> In searching the Internet it basically tells me to do what I have
> >>>> already done.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any words of wisdom are much appreciated.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks!!
> >>>> Keith
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Re: O/T : Windows WIFI not connecting

2023-08-28 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss

Thanks!! I've disabled the WIFI and enabled it several times. I hope I
do not have to replace the WIFI card. However I am along for the
ride...

Moved box into my office and will fire up on Ethernet in a bit. Have a
couple things to take care of first.

Thanks for your input!!

Keith

On 2023-08-28 17:04, Donald Cha. via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Your Wife's computer, turn off wifi, turn back on using management
properties. Could also be wifi card needs replaced.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android [1]

On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 6:53 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
wrote:
Thanks for your reply!!

I have not tried Ethernet yet. That would require me digging
through my
closet to find a long cable that might reach the other room or I
might
have to relocate the computer into my cluttered home office... Was
hoping for some simple solution and if not I will connect via
Ethernet.

I'm reading I might have a corrupt driver that will require
Ethernet. or maybe a thumb drive. At that point I will want to
go
with Ethernet, which I think might make the fix easier.

On 2023-08-28 15:39, Andrew McRobb wrote:

Dumb question, but does it work when you connect via ethernet

cable or

is it only wifi?

On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 3:33 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
wrote:

Hi,

Need some help. My wife's computer again. All was well until

she

tried
to surf the Internet this morning. This computer has been
configured on
my network for over 3 years.

It is a Win 10 Pro box.

- I tried the windows troubleshooter and it said it was resetting
the
driver.
- Checked my router and the computer shows up in the access

control

list.
- Changed the WIFI password and it says it authenticates and then
says
there is no connection.
- I have a Windows laptop that is configured to use WIFI and it
works.
- I cannot ping my wife's computer from my Linux desktop.
- I've cycled everything multiple time.

In searching the Internet it basically tells me to do what I have
already done.

Any words of wisdom are much appreciated.

Thanks!!
Keith
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Re: O/T : Windows WIFI not connecting

2023-08-28 Thread Donald Cha. via PLUG-discuss

Your Wife's computer, turn off wifi, turn back on using management properties. 
Could also be wifi card needs replaced. 

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 6:53 PM, Keith Smith via 
PLUG-discuss wrote:   Thanks for your reply!!

I have not tried Ethernet yet.  That would require me digging through my 
closet to find a long cable that might reach the other room or I might 
have to relocate the computer into my cluttered home office... Was 
hoping for some simple solution and if not I will connect via Ethernet.

I'm reading I might have a corrupt driver that will require 
Ethernet. or maybe a thumb drive.  At that point I will want to go 
with Ethernet, which I think might make the fix easier.





On 2023-08-28 15:39, Andrew McRobb wrote:
> Dumb question, but does it work when you connect via ethernet cable or
> is it only wifi?
> 
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 3:33 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Need some help.  My wife's computer again.  All was well until she
>> tried
>> to surf the Internet this morning.  This computer has been
>> configured on
>> my network for over 3 years.
>> 
>> It is a Win 10 Pro box.
>> 
>> - I tried the windows troubleshooter and it said it was resetting
>> the
>> driver.
>> - Checked my router and the computer shows up in the access control
>> list.
>> - Changed the WIFI password and it says it authenticates and then
>> says
>> there is no connection.
>> - I have a Windows laptop that is configured to use WIFI and it
>> works.
>> - I cannot ping my wife's computer from my Linux desktop.
>> - I've cycled everything multiple time.
>> 
>> In searching the Internet it basically tells me to do what I have
>> already done.
>> 
>> Any words of wisdom are much appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks!!
>> Keith
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Re: O/T : Windows WIFI not connecting

2023-08-28 Thread Andrew McRobb via PLUG-discuss

Ok, let me know. That will at least give some context if it IS a driver
issue or something else is wrong with Windows that it cant connect to the
internet. I know this is a Linux group so hopefully someone here with a
Windows background can chime in and give some better advice. Could also go
into Windows Device Manager and see if the board for wifi/ethernet shows up
properly.

On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 3:53 PM  wrote:

> Thanks for your reply!!
>
> I have not tried Ethernet yet.  That would require me digging through my
> closet to find a long cable that might reach the other room or I might
> have to relocate the computer into my cluttered home office... Was
> hoping for some simple solution and if not I will connect via Ethernet.
>
> I'm reading I might have a corrupt driver that will require
> Ethernet. or maybe a thumb drive.  At that point I will want to go
> with Ethernet, which I think might make the fix easier.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2023-08-28 15:39, Andrew McRobb wrote:
> > Dumb question, but does it work when you connect via ethernet cable or
> > is it only wifi?
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 3:33 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Need some help.  My wife's computer again.  All was well until she
> >> tried
> >> to surf the Internet this morning.  This computer has been
> >> configured on
> >> my network for over 3 years.
> >>
> >> It is a Win 10 Pro box.
> >>
> >> - I tried the windows troubleshooter and it said it was resetting
> >> the
> >> driver.
> >> - Checked my router and the computer shows up in the access control
> >> list.
> >> - Changed the WIFI password and it says it authenticates and then
> >> says
> >> there is no connection.
> >> - I have a Windows laptop that is configured to use WIFI and it
> >> works.
> >> - I cannot ping my wife's computer from my Linux desktop.
> >> - I've cycled everything multiple time.
> >>
> >> In searching the Internet it basically tells me to do what I have
> >> already done.
> >>
> >> Any words of wisdom are much appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks!!
> >> Keith
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Re: O/T : Windows WIFI not connecting

2023-08-28 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss


Thanks for your reply!!

I have not tried Ethernet yet.  That would require me digging through my 
closet to find a long cable that might reach the other room or I might 
have to relocate the computer into my cluttered home office... Was 
hoping for some simple solution and if not I will connect via Ethernet.


I'm reading I might have a corrupt driver that will require 
Ethernet. or maybe a thumb drive.  At that point I will want to go 
with Ethernet, which I think might make the fix easier.






On 2023-08-28 15:39, Andrew McRobb wrote:

Dumb question, but does it work when you connect via ethernet cable or
is it only wifi?

On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 3:33 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
 wrote:


Hi,

Need some help.  My wife's computer again.  All was well until she
tried
to surf the Internet this morning.  This computer has been
configured on
my network for over 3 years.

It is a Win 10 Pro box.

- I tried the windows troubleshooter and it said it was resetting
the
driver.
- Checked my router and the computer shows up in the access control
list.
- Changed the WIFI password and it says it authenticates and then
says
there is no connection.
- I have a Windows laptop that is configured to use WIFI and it
works.
- I cannot ping my wife's computer from my Linux desktop.
- I've cycled everything multiple time.

In searching the Internet it basically tells me to do what I have
already done.

Any words of wisdom are much appreciated.

Thanks!!
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Re: O/T : Windows WIFI not connecting

2023-08-28 Thread Andrew McRobb via PLUG-discuss

Dumb question, but does it work when you connect via ethernet cable or is
it only wifi?

On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 3:33 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Need some help.  My wife's computer again.  All was well until she tried
> to surf the Internet this morning.  This computer has been configured on
> my network for over 3 years.
>
> It is a Win 10 Pro box.
>
> - I tried the windows troubleshooter and it said it was resetting the
> driver.
> - Checked my router and the computer shows up in the access control
> list.
> - Changed the WIFI password and it says it authenticates and then says
> there is no connection.
> - I have a Windows laptop that is configured to use WIFI and it works.
> - I cannot ping my wife's computer from my Linux desktop.
> - I've cycled everything multiple time.
>
> In searching the Internet it basically tells me to do what I have
> already done.
>
> Any words of wisdom are much appreciated.
>
> Thanks!!
> Keith
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O/T : Windows WIFI not connecting

2023-08-28 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss


Hi,

Need some help.  My wife's computer again.  All was well until she tried 
to surf the Internet this morning.  This computer has been configured on 
my network for over 3 years.


It is a Win 10 Pro box.

- I tried the windows troubleshooter and it said it was resetting the 
driver.
- Checked my router and the computer shows up in the access control 
list.
- Changed the WIFI password and it says it authenticates and then says 
there is no connection.

- I have a Windows laptop that is configured to use WIFI and it works.
- I cannot ping my wife's computer from my Linux desktop.
- I've cycled everything multiple time.

In searching the Internet it basically tells me to do what I have 
already done.


Any words of wisdom are much appreciated.

Thanks!!
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Re: Slow Windows Box

2023-08-02 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss


Hi,

Okay this problem is resolved.

I contacted Dell to determine the type of RAM I should use because they 
had installed DDR4-2666 while the CPU called for DDR4-2400.  Also the 
CPU would handle 64 GB and Dell was saying the box could only address up 
to 32 GB.


I bought 32GB of RAM and it arrived yesterday afternoon.

This morning I upgraded the box and it remained slow.  Yikes!!  The box 
was pegging CPU usage at 100%.


Found a video from Dell.  Said to run the Support Assist.  I ran it and 
it said it optimized my box.  It also said I had 6 drivers that need to 
be upgraded.  Did the upgrades.


Still pegging CPU usage at 100%.

The Dell video said to change the power settings to a different setting 
and watch to see if the CPU usage went down.  Tried several settings and 
finally set it to power user and now CPU usage low.


The box is super fast!!

Thanks to everyone for your guidance!!

Keith





On 2023-07-13 19:43, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:

On 2023-07-13 18:38, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Ok, Thanks!!  I have an HP laptop running Win 10 Pro that I use to

make

videos.  It has 8GB of ram and an m.2.  It is about 6 years old.  It

is
 > using 41% of RAM... Yikes!!

I really have to wonder how the browsers work like that with so little
ram, they will tend to use as much or as little as you have, and
aren't shy about having their way with pagefiles if not.

I say this as with 128gb of ram, under linux (any) it's not uncommon
to see firefox and worse chrome when I'm busy with multiple customers
and browser profiles using 30-40gb of said ram.  I use a lot of
windows/tabs, I run for weeks or months between session restarts, and
various research professional or otherwise, I'll open dozens of tabs
on each easily.  To hear people use 4-8gb seems crazy to me.  My
system lets me know, and used to with *only* 64gb that "hey arsehole,
you need to upgrade!" with OOM's.



You are on the extreme.  On my laptop I may have one browser open with 
2 - 4 tabs max.  Add to that video edition software.


My wife uses one browser and I am not sure she knows about tabs.. 
maybe, if so she might have 2 to 4 tabs open at any given time.




My wife could get by with a netbook.


Never hurts to earn some points.  Maybe a special dessert for your
consideration.



I get it


Next go around I'm going to build anything I need except laptops.
Before 2005 I built everything.


Best desktop-ish I've had for a while now is a factory-built Dell
Precision T7910, dual xeon cpu, 128gb of ram, super silent, I use it
for proxmox now vs actual desktop, but used to.


I like Proxmox and think it would be cool to configure it like you are.


Not sure I'd build my
own vs. buy good bones and augment like I did this with good
ram/disks.  I've long used Dell Latitude, XPS, Precision, and as long
as you get good models, they're tight and work forever.  Get the cheap
Inspirons or others, you get what you pay for.


I'll bet your laptop cost a few grand.



If you want a laptop to "build" (or enhance), look at Framework, their
13" and soon 16" are pretty sweet, built to be serviceable/upgradable,
and will probably be my next purchase once the 16" is out.  My Lenovo
Thinkpad is pretty good hardware at the core, but things like their
TB4 dock and even their jank website annoy the hell out of me.  It
doesn't even work in firefox under linux.


I figure I will not upgrade for several more years.  I think things 
will change a lot. When I upgrade I want something(s) with lots of 
cores/threads and lots of RAM so I can have lots of options like 
Proxmox running multiple different things all at once.


I'm interested in the Rasberry PI also... would be interesting to build 
a home web server on multiple PIs.


Keith



-mb

On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 1:19 PM  wrote:


On 2023-07-13 10:03, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Well that's about what I was expecting you'd see...

First, start with getting her more memory, I'm amazed it'll even

run

and start a browser with only 4gb of ram.  Firefox/Chrome alone

uses a

good 8-20gb of ram at a time for my normal usage, anything else

will

just sit in swap/pagefile (which is why your disks are running
overtime).


Ok, Thanks!!  I have an HP laptop running Win 10 Pro that I use to
make
videos.  It has 8GB of ram and an m.2.  It is about 6 years old.  It
is
using 41% of RAM... Yikes!!


I'd say no less than 16gb for any reasonable modern use,

---

or if her I'd divorce you for less.


Funny!!



Second, get rid of the spinner disk, or at least move it to a role

as

a secondary drive for storage.  Putting the OS on any SSD will

make it

feel like lightning comparatively.  If you can, put an m.2

directly in

a pci-e slot with a slot adapter, that'll be your fastest choice,

or

any sata-based SSD as a fallback.

Between ram and new ssd, it should rip even with an older

processor.

Does not need to be fire breathing.  Seems quickest

Re: Slow Windows Box

2023-07-16 Thread Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss

Yeah, my only problem right now is that the insurance company is trying to lowball me and the other homeowner. I lost a couple of good pieces of equipment in that little flame fest. One of which was a $6000 braille display device! And that was a device. I was going to try and put Linux on so that I didn’t have to depend on the stupid Windows CE version that was already on there. I was just trying to figure out how to do it. oh well, such as life.– EricFrom the central offices of the Technomage guild, equipment, reclamation, and research department. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 16, 2023, at 4:04 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss  wrote:sorry to hear about your room.On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 12:01 AM Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:Keith,

Sorry for the late response, but have been in between living arrangements since a fire took out my room at home (you may have seen it on the news on 27 June).

There should be some system maintenance tools that will allow you to clear out old cruft files in the system folders, temporary internet files folders, etc. Not sure if MS kept them when they moved on Fromm Win7.

I am rather surprised you don’t install a basic linux bistro on your wife’s box, and then install VMware and have that run windows. About all you would need would be a lightweight DM for linux, a minimal installation with some dev tools and the VMWare package itself.

Some caveats if you do go this route, Windows 10 and 11 require easily 50 GB of disk space for the full installation and will want access to at least 16GB of ram. I am seriously considering this for my older win7 installation on my old dell laptop (which has developed a bad case of Alzheimers due to the RTC clock on the motherboard going south). My only difficulty right now is finding an affordable used laptop for cheap that has 32GB of ram or more, a 500GB HDD (rust or SSD) and a late generation intel CPU (core i5 10th or core i7 11th).

Anyway, check into the windows accessories/system maintenance tool menus to see what’s there. There are also some open source free tools on the web that can help clean up the system registry, get rid of junk files and even properly defrag the drive (mydefrag is an excellent product I use in place of the built-in version that MS offers).

Also, you might consider creating an antivirus rescue disk (linux based, of which avast has several versions) and boot from that to do a full scan of her drive. There might be a rogue binary or 2 operating in there and that can significantly impact performance. Then again, this is windows, the worlds largest security hole.

Anyway, hope this helps.

-Eric
From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Fire Reclamation Dept (currently at a new location for the duration).

> On Jul 7, 2023, at 2:29 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This is mostly off topic given this is a Linux List.
> 
> I have two separate work areas in my house.  I have my home office which is doing well.  I am using my Linux Ubuntu desktop to send this email.  My Linux machine is hardwired.  This is my main box.  I also have a Win 10 Pro laptop that I use to make and edit YouTube videos.  My editing software only works on Win and MAC.  This laptop is connected via WIFI.  No Problems.  The O/S loads reasonably fast.  My video editing software loads reasonably fast and the rendering process takes a bit but not too bad.  This is a 6 year old HP - nothing fancy and it works.
> 
> My wife's office in another spare bedroom and she has a Dell mini-tower Win 10 ... I want to say pro as well.
> 
> Here is where I need help. My wife's dell is very slow and has trouble with loading Firefox and it takes a while to load YouTube videos.  Even windows takes a while to load which make me think it is a local problem (the Dell box).
> 
> I am reaching out because I do not know how to troubleshoot this issue.
> 
> Any help much appreciated.
> 
> Keith
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Re: Slow Windows Box

2023-07-16 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss

sorry to hear about your room.

On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 12:01 AM Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> Keith,
>
> Sorry for the late response, but have been in between living arrangements
> since a fire took out my room at home (you may have seen it on the news on
> 27 June).
>
> There should be some system maintenance tools that will allow you to clear
> out old cruft files in the system folders, temporary internet files
> folders, etc. Not sure if MS kept them when they moved on Fromm Win7.
>
> I am rather surprised you don’t install a basic linux bistro on your
> wife’s box, and then install VMware and have that run windows. About all
> you would need would be a lightweight DM for linux, a minimal installation
> with some dev tools and the VMWare package itself.
>
> Some caveats if you do go this route, Windows 10 and 11 require easily 50
> GB of disk space for the full installation and will want access to at least
> 16GB of ram. I am seriously considering this for my older win7 installation
> on my old dell laptop (which has developed a bad case of Alzheimers due to
> the RTC clock on the motherboard going south). My only difficulty right now
> is finding an affordable used laptop for cheap that has 32GB of ram or
> more, a 500GB HDD (rust or SSD) and a late generation intel CPU (core i5
> 10th or core i7 11th).
>
> Anyway, check into the windows accessories/system maintenance tool menus
> to see what’s there. There are also some open source free tools on the web
> that can help clean up the system registry, get rid of junk files and even
> properly defrag the drive (mydefrag is an excellent product I use in place
> of the built-in version that MS offers).
>
> Also, you might consider creating an antivirus rescue disk (linux based,
> of which avast has several versions) and boot from that to do a full scan
> of her drive. There might be a rogue binary or 2 operating in there and
> that can significantly impact performance. Then again, this is windows, the
> worlds largest security hole.
>
> Anyway, hope this helps.
>
> -Eric
> From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Fire Reclamation Dept
> (currently at a new location for the duration).
>
>
> > On Jul 7, 2023, at 2:29 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is mostly off topic given this is a Linux List.
> >
> > I have two separate work areas in my house.  I have my home office which
> is doing well.  I am using my Linux Ubuntu desktop to send this email.  My
> Linux machine is hardwired.  This is my main box.  I also have a Win 10 Pro
> laptop that I use to make and edit YouTube videos.  My editing software
> only works on Win and MAC.  This laptop is connected via WIFI.  No
> Problems.  The O/S loads reasonably fast.  My video editing software loads
> reasonably fast and the rendering process takes a bit but not too bad.
> This is a 6 year old HP - nothing fancy and it works.
> >
> > My wife's office in another spare bedroom and she has a Dell mini-tower
> Win 10 ... I want to say pro as well.
> >
> > Here is where I need help. My wife's dell is very slow and has trouble
> with loading Firefox and it takes a while to load YouTube videos.  Even
> windows takes a while to load which make me think it is a local problem
> (the Dell box).
> >
> > I am reaching out because I do not know how to troubleshoot this issue.
> >
> > Any help much appreciated.
> >
> > Keith
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Re: Slow Windows Box

2023-07-15 Thread Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss

Keith,

Sorry for the late response, but have been in between living arrangements since 
a fire took out my room at home (you may have seen it on the news on 27 June).

There should be some system maintenance tools that will allow you to clear out 
old cruft files in the system folders, temporary internet files folders, etc. 
Not sure if MS kept them when they moved on Fromm Win7.

I am rather surprised you don’t install a basic linux bistro on your wife’s 
box, and then install VMware and have that run windows. About all you would 
need would be a lightweight DM for linux, a minimal installation with some dev 
tools and the VMWare package itself.

Some caveats if you do go this route, Windows 10 and 11 require easily 50 GB of 
disk space for the full installation and will want access to at least 16GB of 
ram. I am seriously considering this for my older win7 installation on my old 
dell laptop (which has developed a bad case of Alzheimers due to the RTC clock 
on the motherboard going south). My only difficulty right now is finding an 
affordable used laptop for cheap that has 32GB of ram or more, a 500GB HDD 
(rust or SSD) and a late generation intel CPU (core i5 10th or core i7 11th).

Anyway, check into the windows accessories/system maintenance tool menus to see 
what’s there. There are also some open source free tools on the web that can 
help clean up the system registry, get rid of junk files and even properly 
defrag the drive (mydefrag is an excellent product I use in place of the 
built-in version that MS offers).

Also, you might consider creating an antivirus rescue disk (linux based, of 
which avast has several versions) and boot from that to do a full scan of her 
drive. There might be a rogue binary or 2 operating in there and that can 
significantly impact performance. Then again, this is windows, the worlds 
largest security hole.

Anyway, hope this helps.

-Eric
From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Fire Reclamation Dept 
(currently at a new location for the duration).

> On Jul 7, 2023, at 2:29 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This is mostly off topic given this is a Linux List.
> 
> I have two separate work areas in my house.  I have my home office which is 
> doing well.  I am using my Linux Ubuntu desktop to send this email.  My Linux 
> machine is hardwired.  This is my main box.  I also have a Win 10 Pro laptop 
> that I use to make and edit YouTube videos.  My editing software only works 
> on Win and MAC.  This laptop is connected via WIFI.  No Problems.  The O/S 
> loads reasonably fast.  My video editing software loads reasonably fast and 
> the rendering process takes a bit but not too bad.  This is a 6 year old HP - 
> nothing fancy and it works.
> 
> My wife's office in another spare bedroom and she has a Dell mini-tower Win 
> 10 ... I want to say pro as well.
> 
> Here is where I need help. My wife's dell is very slow and has trouble with 
> loading Firefox and it takes a while to load YouTube videos.  Even windows 
> takes a while to load which make me think it is a local problem (the Dell 
> box).
> 
> I am reaching out because I do not know how to troubleshoot this issue.
> 
> Any help much appreciated.
> 
> Keith
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Re: Slow Windows Box

2023-07-13 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss


On 2023-07-13 18:38, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Ok, Thanks!!  I have an HP laptop running Win 10 Pro that I use to

make

videos.  It has 8GB of ram and an m.2.  It is about 6 years old.  It

is
 > using 41% of RAM... Yikes!!

I really have to wonder how the browsers work like that with so little
ram, they will tend to use as much or as little as you have, and
aren't shy about having their way with pagefiles if not.

I say this as with 128gb of ram, under linux (any) it's not uncommon
to see firefox and worse chrome when I'm busy with multiple customers
and browser profiles using 30-40gb of said ram.  I use a lot of
windows/tabs, I run for weeks or months between session restarts, and
various research professional or otherwise, I'll open dozens of tabs
on each easily.  To hear people use 4-8gb seems crazy to me.  My
system lets me know, and used to with *only* 64gb that "hey arsehole,
you need to upgrade!" with OOM's.



You are on the extreme.  On my laptop I may have one browser open with 2 
- 4 tabs max.  Add to that video edition software.


My wife uses one browser and I am not sure she knows about tabs.. maybe, 
if so she might have 2 to 4 tabs open at any given time.




My wife could get by with a netbook.


Never hurts to earn some points.  Maybe a special dessert for your
consideration.



I get it


Next go around I'm going to build anything I need except laptops.
Before 2005 I built everything.


Best desktop-ish I've had for a while now is a factory-built Dell
Precision T7910, dual xeon cpu, 128gb of ram, super silent, I use it
for proxmox now vs actual desktop, but used to.


I like Proxmox and think it would be cool to configure it like you are.


Not sure I'd build my
own vs. buy good bones and augment like I did this with good
ram/disks.  I've long used Dell Latitude, XPS, Precision, and as long
as you get good models, they're tight and work forever.  Get the cheap
Inspirons or others, you get what you pay for.


I'll bet your laptop cost a few grand.



If you want a laptop to "build" (or enhance), look at Framework, their
13" and soon 16" are pretty sweet, built to be serviceable/upgradable,
and will probably be my next purchase once the 16" is out.  My Lenovo
Thinkpad is pretty good hardware at the core, but things like their
TB4 dock and even their jank website annoy the hell out of me.  It
doesn't even work in firefox under linux.


I figure I will not upgrade for several more years.  I think things will 
change a lot. When I upgrade I want something(s) with lots of 
cores/threads and lots of RAM so I can have lots of options like Proxmox 
running multiple different things all at once.


I'm interested in the Rasberry PI also... would be interesting to build 
a home web server on multiple PIs.


Keith



-mb

On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 1:19 PM  wrote:


On 2023-07-13 10:03, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Well that's about what I was expecting you'd see...

First, start with getting her more memory, I'm amazed it'll even

run

and start a browser with only 4gb of ram.  Firefox/Chrome alone

uses a

good 8-20gb of ram at a time for my normal usage, anything else

will

just sit in swap/pagefile (which is why your disks are running
overtime).


Ok, Thanks!!  I have an HP laptop running Win 10 Pro that I use to
make
videos.  It has 8GB of ram and an m.2.  It is about 6 years old.  It
is
using 41% of RAM... Yikes!!


I'd say no less than 16gb for any reasonable modern use,

---

or if her I'd divorce you for less.


Funny!!



Second, get rid of the spinner disk, or at least move it to a role

as

a secondary drive for storage.  Putting the OS on any SSD will

make it

feel like lightning comparatively.  If you can, put an m.2

directly in

a pci-e slot with a slot adapter, that'll be your fastest choice,

or

any sata-based SSD as a fallback.

Between ram and new ssd, it should rip even with an older

processor.

Does not need to be fire breathing.  Seems quickest fix would be to
upgrade to 8GB of RAM based off of my HP's performance.

My wife could get by with a netbook.



You can probably reinstall the dell image clean downloading it

from

dell and keep using the oem key (they're baked into the hardware),

but

they're usually riddled with crapware and demos.. You're better

off

getting a clean win10 build for $7 bucks from gkeys.



I do not like all the add-ons they provide either!!

Next go around I'm going to build anything I need except laptops.
Before 2005 I built everything.

Thank you for all your help!!


-mb

On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 9:38 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
 wrote:


Thank you to all who replied.

I spent over an hour on trying to figure this out.

I opened the Event Viewer and discovered the system was using 94%

of


memory and 100% of the disk in idle mode.

This computer is running Windows 10 pro with 4GB of ram and and 4
cores
and 4 threads.  Is has a rust spinner.

This is my wife's computer an

Re: Slow Windows Box

2023-07-13 Thread Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss

> Ok, Thanks!!  I have an HP laptop running Win 10 Pro that I use to make
> videos.  It has 8GB of ram and an m.2.  It is about 6 years old.  It is
> using 41% of RAM... Yikes!!

I really have to wonder how the browsers work like that with so little ram,
they will tend to use as much or as little as you have, and aren't shy
about having their way with pagefiles if not.

I say this as with 128gb of ram, under linux (any) it's not uncommon to see
firefox and worse chrome when I'm busy with multiple customers and browser
profiles using 30-40gb of said ram.  I use a lot of windows/tabs, I run for
weeks or months between session restarts, and various research professional
or otherwise, I'll open dozens of tabs on each easily.  To hear people use
4-8gb seems crazy to me.  My system lets me know, and used to with *only*
64gb that "hey arsehole, you need to upgrade!" with OOM's.

> My wife could get by with a netbook.

Never hurts to earn some points.  Maybe a special dessert for your
consideration.

> Next go around I'm going to build anything I need except laptops.
> Before 2005 I built everything.

Best desktop-ish I've had for a while now is a factory-built Dell Precision
T7910, dual xeon cpu, 128gb of ram, super silent, I use it for proxmox now
vs actual desktop, but used to.  Not sure I'd build my own vs. buy good
bones and augment like I did this with good ram/disks.  I've long used Dell
Latitude, XPS, Precision, and as long as you get good models, they're tight
and work forever.  Get the cheap Inspirons or others, you get what you pay
for.

If you want a laptop to "build" (or enhance), look at Framework, their 13"
and soon 16" are pretty sweet, built to be serviceable/upgradable, and will
probably be my next purchase once the 16" is out.  My Lenovo Thinkpad is
pretty good hardware at the core, but things like their TB4 dock and even
their jank website annoy the hell out of me.  It doesn't even work in
firefox under linux.

-mb

On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 1:19 PM  wrote:

> On 2023-07-13 10:03, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > Well that's about what I was expecting you'd see...
> >
> > First, start with getting her more memory, I'm amazed it'll even run
> > and start a browser with only 4gb of ram.  Firefox/Chrome alone uses a
> > good 8-20gb of ram at a time for my normal usage, anything else will
> > just sit in swap/pagefile (which is why your disks are running
> > overtime).
>
>
> Ok, Thanks!!  I have an HP laptop running Win 10 Pro that I use to make
> videos.  It has 8GB of ram and an m.2.  It is about 6 years old.  It is
> using 41% of RAM... Yikes!!
>
>
> > I'd say no less than 16gb for any reasonable modern use,
> ---
> > or if her I'd divorce you for less.
>
> Funny!!
>
> >
> > Second, get rid of the spinner disk, or at least move it to a role as
> > a secondary drive for storage.  Putting the OS on any SSD will make it
> > feel like lightning comparatively.  If you can, put an m.2 directly in
> > a pci-e slot with a slot adapter, that'll be your fastest choice, or
> > any sata-based SSD as a fallback.
> >
> > Between ram and new ssd, it should rip even with an older processor.
>
> Does not need to be fire breathing.  Seems quickest fix would be to
> upgrade to 8GB of RAM based off of my HP's performance.
>
> My wife could get by with a netbook.
>
>
>
> >
> > You can probably reinstall the dell image clean downloading it from
> > dell and keep using the oem key (they're baked into the hardware), but
> > they're usually riddled with crapware and demos.. You're better off
> > getting a clean win10 build for $7 bucks from gkeys.
> >
>
> I do not like all the add-ons they provide either!!
>
> Next go around I'm going to build anything I need except laptops.
> Before 2005 I built everything.
>
> Thank you for all your help!!
>
>
> > -mb
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 9:38 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Thank you to all who replied.
> >>
> >> I spent over an hour on trying to figure this out.
> >>
> >> I opened the Event Viewer and discovered the system was using 94% of
> >>
> >> memory and 100% of the disk in idle mode.
> >>
> >> This computer is running Windows 10 pro with 4GB of ram and and 4
> >> cores
> >> and 4 threads.  Is has a rust spinner.
> >>
> >> This is my wife's computer and she uses it for limited email, some
> >> google searching, and mostly to watch YouTube.  This computer gets
> >> used
> >> very little.
> >>
> >> It has been slow from the beginning.
> >>
> >> One of

Re: Slow Windows Box

2023-07-13 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss


On 2023-07-13 10:03, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Well that's about what I was expecting you'd see...

First, start with getting her more memory, I'm amazed it'll even run
and start a browser with only 4gb of ram.  Firefox/Chrome alone uses a
good 8-20gb of ram at a time for my normal usage, anything else will
just sit in swap/pagefile (which is why your disks are running
overtime).



Ok, Thanks!!  I have an HP laptop running Win 10 Pro that I use to make 
videos.  It has 8GB of ram and an m.2.  It is about 6 years old.  It is 
using 41% of RAM... Yikes!!




I'd say no less than 16gb for any reasonable modern use,

---

or if her I'd divorce you for less.


Funny!!



Second, get rid of the spinner disk, or at least move it to a role as
a secondary drive for storage.  Putting the OS on any SSD will make it
feel like lightning comparatively.  If you can, put an m.2 directly in
a pci-e slot with a slot adapter, that'll be your fastest choice, or
any sata-based SSD as a fallback.

Between ram and new ssd, it should rip even with an older processor.


Does not need to be fire breathing.  Seems quickest fix would be to 
upgrade to 8GB of RAM based off of my HP's performance.


My wife could get by with a netbook.





You can probably reinstall the dell image clean downloading it from
dell and keep using the oem key (they're baked into the hardware), but
they're usually riddled with crapware and demos.. You're better off
getting a clean win10 build for $7 bucks from gkeys.



I do not like all the add-ons they provide either!!

Next go around I'm going to build anything I need except laptops.  
Before 2005 I built everything.


Thank you for all your help!!



-mb

On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 9:38 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
 wrote:


Thank you to all who replied.

I spent over an hour on trying to figure this out.

I opened the Event Viewer and discovered the system was using 94% of

memory and 100% of the disk in idle mode.

This computer is running Windows 10 pro with 4GB of ram and and 4
cores
and 4 threads.  Is has a rust spinner.

This is my wife's computer and she uses it for limited email, some
google searching, and mostly to watch YouTube.  This computer gets
used
very little.

It has been slow from the beginning.

One of the issues was once the computer went into sleep mode it
would
take forever to wake up so I turned off sleep mode.

What I found was hundreds of things running in the background.  Not
sure
why and it was unclear what was the memory hog.

I was puzzled what was going on with the HD.  Disk properties showed

825GB of 915GB free.  I tried to scan and it said the disk had
issues.
So I let it troubleshoot and it fixed it in about 10 minutes. It did
not
report what the actual issue was.

I monkeyed with the background processes and got the memory usage
down
to 86%.

I know next to nothing about managing windows so I do not want to
monkey
with it much more.

At this point I am thinking of creating a reinstall disk or USB and
while I'm at it instating a SSD.  Newegg has some really good deals
on
SSD.

Since this is a Dell computer I suspect the Win install will not
complain about the different HD.

Will an OEM install require a key?

Any thoughts are most welcome.

Keith

On 2023-07-07 17:06, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Thank you so much!!  Might be a couple days before I can work on

it

again.  I'll let you know how things go.


On 2023-07-07 15:40, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Task manager and/or Resource Manager should show you where your
bottlenecks lie, but sounds like either disk (spinner vs ssd),

memory,

or cpu is getting pegged.  This should show you what processes

are

using said cpu/memory/io, either kill them, or feed them more

hardware

resources.  The sysinternals tools like process explorer and such

are

also helpful in seeing applications and/or system processes

freaking

out, including more hidden ones.

If still a spinner disk, the best thing you could do is get her

any

SSD to run the OS and primary apps on alone.

Could be windoze is just trashed after a while with applications
coming and going, upgrading, breaking stuff, etc.  Might be worth
trying a clean restore of the system and/or wiping the disks with
zero's to reset state ala fragmentation or if ssd, needing a

reset

with secure erase.

-mb

On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 2:29 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
 wrote:


Hi,

This is mostly off topic given this is a Linux List.

I have two separate work areas in my house.  I have my home

office

which
is doing well.  I am using my Linux Ubuntu desktop to send this
email.
My Linux machine is hardwired.  This is my main box.  I also

have a

Win
10 Pro laptop that I use to make and edit YouTube videos.  My
editing
software only works on Win and MAC.  This laptop is connected

via

WIFI.
No Problems.  The O/S loads reasonably fast.  My video editing
software
loads reasonably fast and the rendering process takes a bit but

not

too
bad

Re: Slow Windows Box

2023-07-13 Thread Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss

Well that's about what I was expecting you'd see...

First, start with getting her more memory, I'm amazed it'll even run and
start a browser with only 4gb of ram.  Firefox/Chrome alone uses a good
8-20gb of ram at a time for my normal usage, anything else will just sit in
swap/pagefile (which is why your disks are running overtime).  I'd say no
less than 16gb for any reasonable modern use, or if her I'd divorce you for
less.

Second, get rid of the spinner disk, or at least move it to a role as a
secondary drive for storage.  Putting the OS on any SSD will make it feel
like lightning comparatively.  If you can, put an m.2 directly in a pci-e
slot with a slot adapter, that'll be your fastest choice, or any sata-based
SSD as a fallback.

Between ram and new ssd, it should rip even with an older processor.

You can probably reinstall the dell image clean downloading it from dell
and keep using the oem key (they're baked into the hardware), but they're
usually riddled with crapware and demos.. You're better off getting a clean
win10 build for $7 bucks from gkeys.

-mb



On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 9:38 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> Thank you to all who replied.
>
> I spent over an hour on trying to figure this out.
>
> I opened the Event Viewer and discovered the system was using 94% of
> memory and 100% of the disk in idle mode.
>
> This computer is running Windows 10 pro with 4GB of ram and and 4 cores
> and 4 threads.  Is has a rust spinner.
>
> This is my wife's computer and she uses it for limited email, some
> google searching, and mostly to watch YouTube.  This computer gets used
> very little.
>
> It has been slow from the beginning.
>
> One of the issues was once the computer went into sleep mode it would
> take forever to wake up so I turned off sleep mode.
>
> What I found was hundreds of things running in the background.  Not sure
> why and it was unclear what was the memory hog.
>
> I was puzzled what was going on with the HD.  Disk properties showed
> 825GB of 915GB free.  I tried to scan and it said the disk had issues.
> So I let it troubleshoot and it fixed it in about 10 minutes. It did not
> report what the actual issue was.
>
> I monkeyed with the background processes and got the memory usage down
> to 86%.
>
> I know next to nothing about managing windows so I do not want to monkey
> with it much more.
>
> At this point I am thinking of creating a reinstall disk or USB and
> while I'm at it instating a SSD.  Newegg has some really good deals on
> SSD.
>
> Since this is a Dell computer I suspect the Win install will not
> complain about the different HD.
>
> Will an OEM install require a key?
>
> Any thoughts are most welcome.
>
> Keith
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2023-07-07 17:06, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > Thank you so much!!  Might be a couple days before I can work on it
> > again.  I'll let you know how things go.
> >
> >
> > On 2023-07-07 15:40, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >> Task manager and/or Resource Manager should show you where your
> >> bottlenecks lie, but sounds like either disk (spinner vs ssd), memory,
> >> or cpu is getting pegged.  This should show you what processes are
> >> using said cpu/memory/io, either kill them, or feed them more hardware
> >> resources.  The sysinternals tools like process explorer and such are
> >> also helpful in seeing applications and/or system processes freaking
> >> out, including more hidden ones.
> >>
> >> If still a spinner disk, the best thing you could do is get her any
> >> SSD to run the OS and primary apps on alone.
> >>
> >> Could be windoze is just trashed after a while with applications
> >> coming and going, upgrading, breaking stuff, etc.  Might be worth
> >> trying a clean restore of the system and/or wiping the disks with
> >> zero's to reset state ala fragmentation or if ssd, needing a reset
> >> with secure erase.
> >>
> >> -mb
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 2:29 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> This is mostly off topic given this is a Linux List.
> >>>
> >>> I have two separate work areas in my house.  I have my home office
> >>> which
> >>> is doing well.  I am using my Linux Ubuntu desktop to send this
> >>> email.
> >>> My Linux machine is hardwired.  This is my main box.  I also have a
> >>> Win
> >>> 10 Pro laptop that I use to make and edit YouTube videos.  My
> >>> editing
> &

Re: Slow Windows Box

2023-07-13 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss


Thank you to all who replied.

I spent over an hour on trying to figure this out.

I opened the Event Viewer and discovered the system was using 94% of 
memory and 100% of the disk in idle mode.


This computer is running Windows 10 pro with 4GB of ram and and 4 cores 
and 4 threads.  Is has a rust spinner.


This is my wife's computer and she uses it for limited email, some 
google searching, and mostly to watch YouTube.  This computer gets used 
very little.


It has been slow from the beginning.

One of the issues was once the computer went into sleep mode it would 
take forever to wake up so I turned off sleep mode.


What I found was hundreds of things running in the background.  Not sure 
why and it was unclear what was the memory hog.


I was puzzled what was going on with the HD.  Disk properties showed 
825GB of 915GB free.  I tried to scan and it said the disk had issues.  
So I let it troubleshoot and it fixed it in about 10 minutes. It did not 
report what the actual issue was.


I monkeyed with the background processes and got the memory usage down 
to 86%.


I know next to nothing about managing windows so I do not want to monkey 
with it much more.


At this point I am thinking of creating a reinstall disk or USB and 
while I'm at it instating a SSD.  Newegg has some really good deals on 
SSD.


Since this is a Dell computer I suspect the Win install will not 
complain about the different HD.


Will an OEM install require a key?

Any thoughts are most welcome.

Keith






On 2023-07-07 17:06, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
Thank you so much!!  Might be a couple days before I can work on it 
again.  I'll let you know how things go.



On 2023-07-07 15:40, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Task manager and/or Resource Manager should show you where your
bottlenecks lie, but sounds like either disk (spinner vs ssd), memory,
or cpu is getting pegged.  This should show you what processes are
using said cpu/memory/io, either kill them, or feed them more hardware
resources.  The sysinternals tools like process explorer and such are
also helpful in seeing applications and/or system processes freaking
out, including more hidden ones.

If still a spinner disk, the best thing you could do is get her any
SSD to run the OS and primary apps on alone.

Could be windoze is just trashed after a while with applications
coming and going, upgrading, breaking stuff, etc.  Might be worth
trying a clean restore of the system and/or wiping the disks with
zero's to reset state ala fragmentation or if ssd, needing a reset
with secure erase.

-mb

On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 2:29 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
 wrote:


Hi,

This is mostly off topic given this is a Linux List.

I have two separate work areas in my house.  I have my home office
which
is doing well.  I am using my Linux Ubuntu desktop to send this
email.
My Linux machine is hardwired.  This is my main box.  I also have a
Win
10 Pro laptop that I use to make and edit YouTube videos.  My
editing
software only works on Win and MAC.  This laptop is connected via
WIFI.
No Problems.  The O/S loads reasonably fast.  My video editing
software
loads reasonably fast and the rendering process takes a bit but not
too
bad.  This is a 6 year old HP - nothing fancy and it works.

My wife's office in another spare bedroom and she has a Dell
mini-tower
Win 10 ... I want to say pro as well.

Here is where I need help. My wife's dell is very slow and has
trouble
with loading Firefox and it takes a while to load YouTube videos.
Even
windows takes a while to load which make me think it is a local
problem
(the Dell box).

I am reaching out because I do not know how to troubleshoot this
issue.

Any help much appreciated.

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Re: Slow Windows Box

2023-07-07 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss

Thank you so much!!  Might be a couple days before I can work on it 
again.  I'll let you know how things go.



On 2023-07-07 15:40, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Task manager and/or Resource Manager should show you where your
bottlenecks lie, but sounds like either disk (spinner vs ssd), memory,
or cpu is getting pegged.  This should show you what processes are
using said cpu/memory/io, either kill them, or feed them more hardware
resources.  The sysinternals tools like process explorer and such are
also helpful in seeing applications and/or system processes freaking
out, including more hidden ones.

If still a spinner disk, the best thing you could do is get her any
SSD to run the OS and primary apps on alone.

Could be windoze is just trashed after a while with applications
coming and going, upgrading, breaking stuff, etc.  Might be worth
trying a clean restore of the system and/or wiping the disks with
zero's to reset state ala fragmentation or if ssd, needing a reset
with secure erase.

-mb

On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 2:29 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
 wrote:


Hi,

This is mostly off topic given this is a Linux List.

I have two separate work areas in my house.  I have my home office
which
is doing well.  I am using my Linux Ubuntu desktop to send this
email.
My Linux machine is hardwired.  This is my main box.  I also have a
Win
10 Pro laptop that I use to make and edit YouTube videos.  My
editing
software only works on Win and MAC.  This laptop is connected via
WIFI.
No Problems.  The O/S loads reasonably fast.  My video editing
software
loads reasonably fast and the rendering process takes a bit but not
too
bad.  This is a 6 year old HP - nothing fancy and it works.

My wife's office in another spare bedroom and she has a Dell
mini-tower
Win 10 ... I want to say pro as well.

Here is where I need help. My wife's dell is very slow and has
trouble
with loading Firefox and it takes a while to load YouTube videos.
Even
windows takes a while to load which make me think it is a local
problem
(the Dell box).

I am reaching out because I do not know how to troubleshoot this
issue.

Any help much appreciated.

Keith
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Re: Slow Windows Box

2023-07-07 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss


Thanks!!


On 2023-07-07 14:43, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Event Viewer will show application issues

 On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 02:29:26 PM MST, Keith Smith via
PLUG-discuss  wrote:

Hi,

This is mostly off topic given this is a Linux List.

I have two separate work areas in my house.  I have my home office
which

is doing well.  I am using my Linux Ubuntu desktop to send this email.


My Linux machine is hardwired.  This is my main box.  I also have a
Win

10 Pro laptop that I use to make and edit YouTube videos.  My editing

software only works on Win and MAC.  This laptop is connected via
WIFI.

No Problems.  The O/S loads reasonably fast.  My video editing
software

loads reasonably fast and the rendering process takes a bit but not
too

bad.  This is a 6 year old HP - nothing fancy and it works.

My wife's office in another spare bedroom and she has a Dell
mini-tower

Win 10 ... I want to say pro as well.

Here is where I need help. My wife's dell is very slow and has trouble


with loading Firefox and it takes a while to load YouTube videos.
Even

windows takes a while to load which make me think it is a local
problem

(the Dell box).

I am reaching out because I do not know how to troubleshoot this
issue.

Any help much appreciated.

Keith

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Re: Slow Windows Box

2023-07-07 Thread Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss

Task manager and/or Resource Manager should show you where your bottlenecks
lie, but sounds like either disk (spinner vs ssd), memory, or cpu is
getting pegged.  This should show you what processes are using said
cpu/memory/io, either kill them, or feed them more hardware resources.  The
sysinternals tools like process explorer and such are also helpful in
seeing applications and/or system processes freaking out, including more
hidden ones.

If still a spinner disk, the best thing you could do is get her any SSD to
run the OS and primary apps on alone.

Could be windoze is just trashed after a while with applications coming and
going, upgrading, breaking stuff, etc.  Might be worth trying a clean
restore of the system and/or wiping the disks with zero's to reset state
ala fragmentation or if ssd, needing a reset with secure erase.

-mb

On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 2:29 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This is mostly off topic given this is a Linux List.
>
> I have two separate work areas in my house.  I have my home office which
> is doing well.  I am using my Linux Ubuntu desktop to send this email.
> My Linux machine is hardwired.  This is my main box.  I also have a Win
> 10 Pro laptop that I use to make and edit YouTube videos.  My editing
> software only works on Win and MAC.  This laptop is connected via WIFI.
> No Problems.  The O/S loads reasonably fast.  My video editing software
> loads reasonably fast and the rendering process takes a bit but not too
> bad.  This is a 6 year old HP - nothing fancy and it works.
>
> My wife's office in another spare bedroom and she has a Dell mini-tower
> Win 10 ... I want to say pro as well.
>
> Here is where I need help. My wife's dell is very slow and has trouble
> with loading Firefox and it takes a while to load YouTube videos.  Even
> windows takes a while to load which make me think it is a local problem
> (the Dell box).
>
> I am reaching out because I do not know how to troubleshoot this issue.
>
> Any help much appreciated.
>
> Keith
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Re: Slow Windows Box

2023-07-07 Thread greg zegan via PLUG-discuss

 Event Viewer will show application issues
On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 02:29:26 PM MST, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi,

This is mostly off topic given this is a Linux List.

I have two separate work areas in my house.  I have my home office which 
is doing well.  I am using my Linux Ubuntu desktop to send this email.  
My Linux machine is hardwired.  This is my main box.  I also have a Win 
10 Pro laptop that I use to make and edit YouTube videos.  My editing 
software only works on Win and MAC.  This laptop is connected via WIFI.  
No Problems.  The O/S loads reasonably fast.  My video editing software 
loads reasonably fast and the rendering process takes a bit but not too 
bad.  This is a 6 year old HP - nothing fancy and it works.

My wife's office in another spare bedroom and she has a Dell mini-tower 
Win 10 ... I want to say pro as well.

Here is where I need help. My wife's dell is very slow and has trouble 
with loading Firefox and it takes a while to load YouTube videos.  Even 
windows takes a while to load which make me think it is a local problem 
(the Dell box).

I am reaching out because I do not know how to troubleshoot this issue.

Any help much appreciated.

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Slow Windows Box

2023-07-07 Thread Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss


Hi,

This is mostly off topic given this is a Linux List.

I have two separate work areas in my house.  I have my home office which 
is doing well.  I am using my Linux Ubuntu desktop to send this email.  
My Linux machine is hardwired.  This is my main box.  I also have a Win 
10 Pro laptop that I use to make and edit YouTube videos.  My editing 
software only works on Win and MAC.  This laptop is connected via WIFI.  
No Problems.  The O/S loads reasonably fast.  My video editing software 
loads reasonably fast and the rendering process takes a bit but not too 
bad.  This is a 6 year old HP - nothing fancy and it works.


My wife's office in another spare bedroom and she has a Dell mini-tower 
Win 10 ... I want to say pro as well.


Here is where I need help. My wife's dell is very slow and has trouble 
with loading Firefox and it takes a while to load YouTube videos.  Even 
windows takes a while to load which make me think it is a local problem 
(the Dell box).


I am reaching out because I do not know how to troubleshoot this issue.

Any help much appreciated.

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Re: windows in a virtual machine

2023-07-06 Thread Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss

Checkout on gkeys24 seems to work for me, it should put you through a 3rd
party for payment, make sure you're not script blocking it or anything
(often a problem for me).  I'm using firefox here with noscript/adblock
origin just whitelisting the direct sites.

I just went "ew" as everything I've read or heard about win11 annoys me to
even want to try it.  They basically released an unfinished UI revamp
trying to do the "hey, we look like mac now, come back!" with the new
taskbar and such in the middle, breaking basic taskbar functionality in the
process, and seems just another experiment from bored developers.  Like
when they tried the silly full-screen start menu in win8 everyone
(including M$) tried to forget, just quit screwing with what works.

Joys of using it only as a guest os for windoze-only applications like
visio or project, I usually disable all advanced desktop options and
features so it's as close to XP as I can get it.  I just want to launch the
app I need, and use anything else about windoze as little as possible.
Then go back to using Linux for anything else.

-mb


On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 9:13 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> "I always get keys from gkeys24.com, win10 is like $7 bucks for a legit
> key, win11 a bit more (but ew)"
>
> Why 'ew'? is 11 garbage?
> also... I can't enter my payment information at http://gkeys24.com/
>
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 11:07 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> Agreed, use Virtualbox, get the windows 10/11 iso from microsoft's own
>> site, install windows in a VM just like you would another PC.  I've been
>> doing this for ~20 years, as long as I've used linux as a full-time system,
>> and the only way to run windoze.
>>
>> This also comes with the advantage of being able to leverage Snapshots.
>> As soon as your clean windoze vm is installed, registered all shiny and
>> unmolested, create a Snapshot of your image.  Should your Dad get infected
>> in any way, or even just suspects it, before any upgrade, anything dubious,
>> just restore to that Snapshot, and good as new again to a perfect state.
>>
>> I always get keys from gkeys24.com, win10 is like $7 bucks for a legit
>> key, win11 a bit more (but ew).  I can forward you a latest ad, they tend
>> to hide windoze licenses from the main site to avoid microsoft's lawyers (I
>> assume).
>>
>> -mb
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 7:41 AM Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Michael --
>>>
>>> Yes, you can install Linux and then additionally install VirtualBox.
>>> From there you can download the Windows 10 ISO
>>>
>>> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO
>>>
>>> and then install it. Obviously, you'll need a valid license key to
>>> install.
>>>
>>> There was a thread here recently about cheap and reliable windows keys
>>> recently.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alexander
>>>
>>> Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023, 04:21 Michael via PLUG-discuss <
>>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My father is interested in Linux but he needs Windows. I HEARD that you
>>>> can d/l the windows ISO to usb and that it will install to the computer if
>>>> it originally came with windows. If that is true my question is: what about
>>>> if I were to install linux and then put windows into a virtual machine;
>>>> Could I do that? Where would I go to get the windows ISO?
>>>>
>>>> --
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Re: windows in a virtual machine

2023-07-06 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss

"I always get keys from gkeys24.com, win10 is like $7 bucks for a legit
key, win11 a bit more (but ew)"

Why 'ew'? is 11 garbage?
also... I can't enter my payment information at http://gkeys24.com/

On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 11:07 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> Agreed, use Virtualbox, get the windows 10/11 iso from microsoft's own
> site, install windows in a VM just like you would another PC.  I've been
> doing this for ~20 years, as long as I've used linux as a full-time system,
> and the only way to run windoze.
>
> This also comes with the advantage of being able to leverage Snapshots.
> As soon as your clean windoze vm is installed, registered all shiny and
> unmolested, create a Snapshot of your image.  Should your Dad get infected
> in any way, or even just suspects it, before any upgrade, anything dubious,
> just restore to that Snapshot, and good as new again to a perfect state.
>
> I always get keys from gkeys24.com, win10 is like $7 bucks for a legit
> key, win11 a bit more (but ew).  I can forward you a latest ad, they tend
> to hide windoze licenses from the main site to avoid microsoft's lawyers (I
> assume).
>
> -mb
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 7:41 AM Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> Michael --
>>
>> Yes, you can install Linux and then additionally install VirtualBox. From
>> there you can download the Windows 10 ISO
>>
>> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO
>>
>> and then install it. Obviously, you'll need a valid license key to
>> install.
>>
>> There was a thread here recently about cheap and reliable windows keys
>> recently.
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Alexander
>>
>> Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023, 04:21 Michael via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> My father is interested in Linux but he needs Windows. I HEARD that you
>>> can d/l the windows ISO to usb and that it will install to the computer if
>>> it originally came with windows. If that is true my question is: what about
>>> if I were to install linux and then put windows into a virtual machine;
>>> Could I do that? Where would I go to get the windows ISO?
>>>
>>> --
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Re: windows in a virtual machine

2023-07-06 Thread David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss

Further exploration turned up Win 10 Home and Pro for ~$14 (1PC) and ~$24 (2PC).

Bundles: Win 10 + Office 2016 @ $65 Win 10  + Office 2019 @ $71 

Win Server 2019 Std @ $32

Office for Mac … not cheap at all.

-David Schwartz




> On Jul 6, 2023, at 3:24 AM, David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss 
>  wrote:
> 
> I used the Search function for “windows 10” I found a bunch of Windows and 
> Office stuff. Not $7, but around $50.
> 
> Is there a separate price list with lower prices?
> 
> -David Schwartz
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2023, at 2:40 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss 
>> mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> yes please, send me the ad.
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 11:07 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss 
>> mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I always get keys from gkeys24.com <http://gkeys24.com/>, win10 is like $7 
>> bucks for a legit key, win11 a bit more (but ew).  I can forward you a 
>> latest ad, they tend to hide windoze licenses from the main site to avoid 
>> microsoft's lawyers (I assume).
>> 
>> -mb
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 7:41 AM Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss 
>> mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> 
>> wrote:
>> Michael --
>> 
>> Yes, you can install Linux and then additionally install VirtualBox. From 
>> there you can download the Windows 10 ISO
>> 
>> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO 
>> <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO>
>> 
>> and then install it. Obviously, you'll need a valid license key to install.
>> 
>> There was a thread here recently about cheap and reliable windows keys 
>> recently.
>> 
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Alexander
>> 
>> Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023, 04:21 Michael via PLUG-discuss 
>> mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> 
>> wrote:
>> My father is interested in Linux but he needs Windows. I HEARD that you can 
>> d/l the windows ISO to usb and that it will install to the computer if it 
>> originally came with windows. If that is true my question is: what about if 
>> I were to install linux and then put windows into a virtual machine; Could I 
>> do that? Where would I go to get the windows ISO?
>> 
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Re: windows in a virtual machine

2023-07-06 Thread David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss

I used the Search function for “windows 10” I found a bunch of Windows and 
Office stuff. Not $7, but around $50.

Is there a separate price list with lower prices?

-David Schwartz




> On Jul 6, 2023, at 2:40 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss 
>  wrote:
> 
> yes please, send me the ad.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 11:07 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss 
> mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> 
> wrote:
> 
> I always get keys from gkeys24.com <http://gkeys24.com/>, win10 is like $7 
> bucks for a legit key, win11 a bit more (but ew).  I can forward you a latest 
> ad, they tend to hide windoze licenses from the main site to avoid 
> microsoft's lawyers (I assume).
> 
> -mb
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 7:41 AM Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss 
> mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> 
> wrote:
> Michael --
> 
> Yes, you can install Linux and then additionally install VirtualBox. From 
> there you can download the Windows 10 ISO
> 
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO 
> <https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO>
> 
> and then install it. Obviously, you'll need a valid license key to install.
> 
> There was a thread here recently about cheap and reliable windows keys 
> recently.
> 
> --
> Thanks,
> Alexander
> 
> Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro
> 
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023, 04:21 Michael via PLUG-discuss 
> mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> 
> wrote:
> My father is interested in Linux but he needs Windows. I HEARD that you can 
> d/l the windows ISO to usb and that it will install to the computer if it 
> originally came with windows. If that is true my question is: what about if I 
> were to install linux and then put windows into a virtual machine; Could I do 
> that? Where would I go to get the windows ISO?
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Re: windows in a virtual machine

2023-07-06 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss

yes please, send me the ad.

On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 11:07 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> Agreed, use Virtualbox, get the windows 10/11 iso from microsoft's own
> site, install windows in a VM just like you would another PC.  I've been
> doing this for ~20 years, as long as I've used linux as a full-time system,
> and the only way to run windoze.
>
> This also comes with the advantage of being able to leverage Snapshots.
> As soon as your clean windoze vm is installed, registered all shiny and
> unmolested, create a Snapshot of your image.  Should your Dad get infected
> in any way, or even just suspects it, before any upgrade, anything dubious,
> just restore to that Snapshot, and good as new again to a perfect state.
>
> I always get keys from gkeys24.com, win10 is like $7 bucks for a legit
> key, win11 a bit more (but ew).  I can forward you a latest ad, they tend
> to hide windoze licenses from the main site to avoid microsoft's lawyers (I
> assume).
>
> -mb
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 7:41 AM Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> Michael --
>>
>> Yes, you can install Linux and then additionally install VirtualBox. From
>> there you can download the Windows 10 ISO
>>
>> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO
>>
>> and then install it. Obviously, you'll need a valid license key to
>> install.
>>
>> There was a thread here recently about cheap and reliable windows keys
>> recently.
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Alexander
>>
>> Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023, 04:21 Michael via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> My father is interested in Linux but he needs Windows. I HEARD that you
>>> can d/l the windows ISO to usb and that it will install to the computer if
>>> it originally came with windows. If that is true my question is: what about
>>> if I were to install linux and then put windows into a virtual machine;
>>> Could I do that? Where would I go to get the windows ISO?
>>>
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Re: windows in a virtual machine

2023-07-05 Thread Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss

Of course, Microsoft wants you to go out and pay $200 a seat licenses as
"perceived value", but if you're broke (or just cheap or know better),
they'll take a few bucks too.  They're not choosy as they're printing money
for themselves anyways.

If you're the kind of person that likes overspending on an expensive purse
to feel better, feel free and spend that $200 for windoze, but I've paid
more than enough of the microsoft tax in my life on systems that only ran
linux, they can cough me up a cheap vm license to run visio in.

-mb


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plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> Thanks. 10 is only $7. And I thought it was so much more.
>
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 10:13 PM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> > Why not Qemu?
>>
>> Just a simple option for a desktop user really (consider the source
>> asking), much easier to learn and manage than qemu with virtmanager.
>> Virtualbox *is* Oracle though, and about the only thing more evil is
>> (maybe) Microsoft and Fakebook (Satan is down on the evil list these days).
>>
>> Only real trap with virtualbox (that I know) is to NOT use the extension
>> pack, as that puts you into their commercial licensing, and they have gone
>> out of their way to commit bored lawyers to actually sue organizations for
>> using it (meaning they likely have spyware built-in that phones home
>> reporting it).
>>
>> I'm all for qemu over virtualbox as a more advanced option when someone
>> is ready to get more into the weeds, but not on a desktop system, and at
>> that point might as well use proxmox with qemu if dedicated.
>>
>>
>> -mb
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 5:40 PM Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 4 Jul 2023 08:07:17 -0700
>>>
>>> >Agreed, use Virtualbox,
>>>
>>> Why not Qemu?
>>>
>>> SteveT
>>>
>>> Steve Litt
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Re: windows in a virtual machine

2023-07-05 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss

Thanks. 10 is only $7. And I thought it was so much more.

On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 10:13 PM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> > Why not Qemu?
>
> Just a simple option for a desktop user really (consider the source
> asking), much easier to learn and manage than qemu with virtmanager.
> Virtualbox *is* Oracle though, and about the only thing more evil is
> (maybe) Microsoft and Fakebook (Satan is down on the evil list these days).
>
> Only real trap with virtualbox (that I know) is to NOT use the extension
> pack, as that puts you into their commercial licensing, and they have gone
> out of their way to commit bored lawyers to actually sue organizations for
> using it (meaning they likely have spyware built-in that phones home
> reporting it).
>
> I'm all for qemu over virtualbox as a more advanced option when someone is
> ready to get more into the weeds, but not on a desktop system, and at that
> point might as well use proxmox with qemu if dedicated.
>
>
> -mb
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 5:40 PM Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 4 Jul 2023 08:07:17 -0700
>>
>> >Agreed, use Virtualbox,
>>
>> Why not Qemu?
>>
>> SteveT
>>
>> Steve Litt
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Re: windows in a virtual machine

2023-07-04 Thread Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss

> Why not Qemu?

Just a simple option for a desktop user really (consider the source
asking), much easier to learn and manage than qemu with virtmanager.
Virtualbox *is* Oracle though, and about the only thing more evil is
(maybe) Microsoft and Fakebook (Satan is down on the evil list these days).

Only real trap with virtualbox (that I know) is to NOT use the extension
pack, as that puts you into their commercial licensing, and they have gone
out of their way to commit bored lawyers to actually sue organizations for
using it (meaning they likely have spyware built-in that phones home
reporting it).

I'm all for qemu over virtualbox as a more advanced option when someone is
ready to get more into the weeds, but not on a desktop system, and at that
point might as well use proxmox with qemu if dedicated.

-mb

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> Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 4 Jul 2023 08:07:17 -0700
>
> >Agreed, use Virtualbox,
>
> Why not Qemu?
>
> SteveT
>
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Re: windows in a virtual machine

2023-07-04 Thread Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss

Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 4 Jul 2023 08:07:17 -0700

>Agreed, use Virtualbox, 

Why not Qemu?

SteveT

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Re: windows in a virtual machine

2023-07-04 Thread Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss

Agreed, use Virtualbox, get the windows 10/11 iso from microsoft's own
site, install windows in a VM just like you would another PC.  I've been
doing this for ~20 years, as long as I've used linux as a full-time system,
and the only way to run windoze.

This also comes with the advantage of being able to leverage Snapshots.  As
soon as your clean windoze vm is installed, registered all shiny and
unmolested, create a Snapshot of your image.  Should your Dad get infected
in any way, or even just suspects it, before any upgrade, anything dubious,
just restore to that Snapshot, and good as new again to a perfect state.

I always get keys from gkeys24.com, win10 is like $7 bucks for a legit key,
win11 a bit more (but ew).  I can forward you a latest ad, they tend to
hide windoze licenses from the main site to avoid microsoft's lawyers (I
assume).

-mb

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plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> Michael --
>
> Yes, you can install Linux and then additionally install VirtualBox. From
> there you can download the Windows 10 ISO
>
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO
>
> and then install it. Obviously, you'll need a valid license key to install.
>
> There was a thread here recently about cheap and reliable windows keys
> recently.
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Alexander
>
> Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro
>
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023, 04:21 Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> My father is interested in Linux but he needs Windows. I HEARD that you
>> can d/l the windows ISO to usb and that it will install to the computer if
>> it originally came with windows. If that is true my question is: what about
>> if I were to install linux and then put windows into a virtual machine;
>> Could I do that? Where would I go to get the windows ISO?
>>
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Re: windows in a virtual machine

2023-07-04 Thread Snyder, Alexander J via PLUG-discuss

Michael --

Yes, you can install Linux and then additionally install VirtualBox. From
there you can download the Windows 10 ISO

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO

and then install it. Obviously, you'll need a valid license key to install.

There was a thread here recently about cheap and reliable windows keys
recently.

--
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Alexander

Sent from my Google Pixel 7 Pro

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> My father is interested in Linux but he needs Windows. I HEARD that you
> can d/l the windows ISO to usb and that it will install to the computer if
> it originally came with windows. If that is true my question is: what about
> if I were to install linux and then put windows into a virtual machine;
> Could I do that? Where would I go to get the windows ISO?
>
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windows in a virtual machine

2023-07-04 Thread Michael via PLUG-discuss

My father is interested in Linux but he needs Windows. I HEARD that you can
d/l the windows ISO to usb and that it will install to the computer if it
originally came with windows. If that is true my question is: what about if
I were to install linux and then put windows into a virtual machine; Could
I do that? Where would I go to get the windows ISO?

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Change color in plasma message windows

2022-10-04 Thread Jim via PLUG-discuss

I have Kubuntu 22.04 installed.   I have one problem with the appearance 
of the text in the message windows that pop up.  The background is 
black.  The text is almost as black.  Here is an example.  Look below 
Copying and to the left of Home/desktop. There's some   very dark text 
that you might not be able to see. How do I change the color is it?  thanks


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Help reinstall Fedora 35 bootloader after Windows decided to remove it

2021-12-04 Thread Adam Mercer via PLUG-discuss

Hi

I dual boot Windows on my system with Fedora 35 and just did a Windows
update and it completely broke my bootloader, upon selecting Fedora in
the UEFI I just set the grub prompt filing the entire screen, i.e.

grub>
grub>
etc.

I booted in the Fedora Live CD, chrooted into my system and have been
trying to reinstall grub using the instructions here:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2#Instructions_for_UEFI-based_systems

When I try to reinstall the grub packages I get the following error:

  Running scriptlet: grub2-common-1:2.06-8.fc35.noarch   26/26
error: failed to exec scriptlet interpreter /bin/sh: Permission denied
warning: %posttrans(grub2-common-1:2.06-8.fc35.noarch) scriptlet
failed, exit status 127

Error in POSTTRANS scriptlet in rpm package grub2-common
  Running scriptlet: shim-unsigned-ia32-15.4-1.fc32.x86_64   26/26
error: failed to exec scriptlet interpreter /bin/sh: Permission denied
warning: %transfiletriggerin(glibc-common-2.34-8.fc35.x86_64)
scriptlet failed, exit status 127

Error in  scriptlet in rpm package shim-unsigned-ia32
error: failed to exec scriptlet interpreter /bin/sh: Permission denied
warning: %transfiletriggerpostun(glibc-common-2.34-8.fc35.x86_64)
scriptlet failed, exit status 127

Error in  scriptlet in rpm package shim-unsigned-ia32

Any idea what I'm doing wrong and how I can get back up and running?

Cheers

Adam
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windows font zero day

2020-03-23 Thread der.hans


moin moin,

yup, they implemented the Good Times virus (again).

Anyway, some of us have likely had to allow foreign windows systems
unbidden onto our network in the last couple weeks. If so, the remote
execution in a windows client environment might have negative impact for
the rest of your network.

Cue at least one person rightly reminding us about the importance of
network seperation :)

keep em seperated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P978QUsmyU

ciao,

der.hans
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Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux && Visual Studio Code

2019-12-31 Thread techlists

WOW Ok I discovered something or several things I did not know.   

Win 10 pro WSL / Ubuntu 16.04LTS LAMP configuration. 

Had created several vhosts using the format site.dev.   

Local host would work but not site.dev.  Drove me crazy... spent a lot
of time trying to figure it out.  Scoured the internet looking for what
was wrong.  Nothing worked until I happened upon an article that said
.dev is a legitimate TLD owned my Microsoft.  

The article suggested using site.localhost and by doing so the Windows
host file does not need to be updated.  It worked.  I assume this naming
convention will only work on the local machine.  

I assume if one wants to reach sites on your local network, one might
use the naming convention site.local  - I assume 

I am going to do more testing  

On 2019-12-30 22:41, James Dugger wrote:

> Have you tried going to the site using chrome incognito?  This will not use 
> cached settings in chrome.  If that works should just be clearing cache.
> 
> You can flush windows dns cache settings like this: 
> go to command shell in Windows and try 
> 
> ipconfig /release 
> ipconfig /all 
> ipconfig /flushdns 
> ipconfig /renew 
> netsh int ip set dns 
> netsh winsock reset 
> 
> restart Windows 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 5:12 PM Stephen Partington  
> wrote: 
> Chrome has its own DNS. That is meant to supplement the systems DNS.  
> 
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 8:05 PM  wrote: 
> 
> Ok,  
> 
> I failed to edit the Windows hosts file.  I edited the Linux hosts file.  So 
> I finally realized I needed to edit the Windows hosts file that is done.  
>  
> 
> Still unable to pull up the site.  Then I recalled the issue I had sometime 
> ago Chrome does not like this configuration for some reason.  
> 
> I am able to view the site in FireFox but not in Chrome. 
> 
> Not sure why... would like to understand why there is this problem. 
> 
> Anyone have any thoughts? 
> 
> I am running Win 10 Pro with the Windows Subsystem for Linux.  I'm running 
> Ubuntu 16.04LTS with a LAMP configuration. 
> 
> I've set the Windows Hosts file to 127.0.0.1 for each of the vhost on the 
> WSL. 
> 
> I can enter the IP in Chrome and see the site, however when I enter something 
> like MyFramework.dev in the browser URL I get  
> 
> THIS SITE CAN'T BE REACHED
> 
> However I can visit the dev site just fine in FireFox. 
> 
> Any thoughts? 
> 
> Thanks!! 
> 
> On 2019-12-30 16:46, James Dugger wrote: 
> What type of site.  If WordPress You may need to set AllowOveride directive 
> in the  section 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 1:43 PM James Dugger  wrote: 
> What does Apache error_log and access_log say 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 1:37 PM  wrote: 
> 
> chown -R www-data:www-data did not fix the problem.  
> 
> On 2019-12-30 15:50, James Dugger wrote: 
> Try setting chown -R www-data:www-data on the document root 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 12:48 PM Stephen Partington  
> wrote: 
> This might help. 
> 
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-install 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 3:41 PM  wrote: 
> 
> I've been trying to locate a command that will tell me which version of the 
> WSL I am running.  The best answer I read was the WSL is tied to the Windows 
> updates which I get regularly.   
> 
> I have a vhost in /etc/apache2/sites-available/myframework.dev.conf with the 
> following excerpt 
> 
> ... 
> 
> DocumentRoot /var/www/html/myframework.dev/public_html [1]
> ServerName www.myframework.dev [2] 
> 
> ... 
> 
> I enabled myframework.dev.conf and restarted apache... 
> 
> I edited /etc/hosts and added the following 2 lines :  
> 
> 127.0.0.1   www.myframework.dev [2] 
> 
> 127.0.0.1   myframework.dev [2] 
> 
> When I enter the url www.myframework.dev [2] into my browser, I get a 
> message: 
> 
> THIS SITE CAN'T BE REACHED
> 
> I set the file permissions : chmod 755 -R html/ and ownership : chown -R 
> myuser:myuser html  
> 
> I'm sure it much be something simple   
> 
> Note : If I go to localhost in the browser I see a page located at 
> /var/www/html/index.php 
> 
> Any help is much appreciated. 
> 
> Keith 
> 
> On 2019-12-19 02:07, James Dugger wrote: 
> 
> Are you on the latest version of Windows 10 with WSL2? If not there are huge 
> differences.  Prior to WSL2 and the latest Windows 10 developer mode, the WSL 
> sent linux system calls to an emulator that the Windows NT kernel could 
> understand.  However with the advent of the latest Windows 10 updates and 
> WSL2 (June 2019) Microsoft installs a full linux kernel with the WSL2 
> distribution you chose.  I think the latest for Ubuntu now i

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux && Visual Studio Code

Have you tried going to the site using chrome incognito?  This will not use
cached settings in chrome.  If that works should just be clearing cache.

You can flush windows dns cache settings like this:
go to command shell in Windows and try

ipconfig /release
ipconfig /all
ipconfig /flushdns
ipconfig /renew
netsh int ip set dns
netsh winsock reset

restart Windows

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 5:12 PM Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> Chrome has its own DNS. That is meant to supplement the systems DNS.
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 8:05 PM  wrote:
>
>>
>> Ok,
>>
>> I failed to edit the Windows hosts file.  I edited the Linux hosts file.
>> So I finally realized I needed to edit the Windows hosts file that
>> is done.
>>
>> Still unable to pull up the site.  Then I recalled the issue I had
>> sometime ago Chrome does not like this configuration for some reason.
>>
>> I am able to view the site in FireFox but not in Chrome.
>>
>> Not sure why... would like to understand why there is this problem.
>>
>> Anyone have any thoughts?
>>
>> I am running Win 10 Pro with the Windows Subsystem for Linux.  I'm
>> running Ubuntu 16.04LTS with a LAMP configuration.
>>
>> I've set the Windows Hosts file to 127.0.0.1 for each of the vhost on the
>> WSL.
>>
>> I can enter the IP in Chrome and see the site, however when I enter
>> something like MyFramework.dev in the browser URL I get
>> This site can’t be reached
>>
>> However I can visit the dev site just fine in FireFox.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2019-12-30 16:46, James Dugger wrote:
>>
>> What type of site.  If WordPress You may need to set AllowOveride
>> directive in the  section
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 1:43 PM James Dugger 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What does Apache error_log and access_log say
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 1:37 PM  wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> chown -R www-data:www-data did not fix the problem.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2019-12-30 15:50, James Dugger wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Try setting chown -R www-data:www-data on the document root
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 12:48 PM Stephen Partington 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This might help.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-install
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 3:41 PM  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been trying to locate a command that will tell me which version
>>>>>> of the WSL I am running.  The best answer I read was the WSL is tied to 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Windows updates which I get regularly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a vhost in /etc/apache2/sites-available/myframework.dev.conf
>>>>>> with the following excerpt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DocumentRoot /var/www/html/myframework.dev/public_html
>>>>>> ServerName www.myframework.dev
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I enabled myframework.dev.conf and restarted apache...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I edited /etc/hosts and added the following 2 lines :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 127.0.0.1   www.myframework.dev
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 127.0.0.1   myframework.dev <http://www.myframework.dev>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I enter the url www.myframework.dev into my browser, I get a
>>>>>> message:
>>>>>> This site can't be reached
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I set the file permissions : chmod 755 -R html/ and ownership : chown
>>>>>> -R myuser:myuser html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sure it much be something simple
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note : If I go to localhost in the browser I see a page located
>>>>>> at /var/www/html/index.php
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any help is much appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2019-12-19 02:07, James Dugger wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you on the latest version of Windows 10 with WSL2? If not there
&

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux && Visual Studio Code

2019-12-30 Thread Stephen Partington

Chrome has its own DNS. That is meant to supplement the systems DNS.

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 8:05 PM  wrote:

>
> Ok,
>
> I failed to edit the Windows hosts file.  I edited the Linux hosts file.
> So I finally realized I needed to edit the Windows hosts file that is
> done.
>
> Still unable to pull up the site.  Then I recalled the issue I had
> sometime ago Chrome does not like this configuration for some reason.
>
> I am able to view the site in FireFox but not in Chrome.
>
> Not sure why... would like to understand why there is this problem.
>
> Anyone have any thoughts?
>
> I am running Win 10 Pro with the Windows Subsystem for Linux.  I'm running
> Ubuntu 16.04LTS with a LAMP configuration.
>
> I've set the Windows Hosts file to 127.0.0.1 for each of the vhost on the
> WSL.
>
> I can enter the IP in Chrome and see the site, however when I enter
> something like MyFramework.dev in the browser URL I get
> This site can’t be reached
>
> However I can visit the dev site just fine in FireFox.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks!!
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2019-12-30 16:46, James Dugger wrote:
>
> What type of site.  If WordPress You may need to set AllowOveride
> directive in the  section
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 1:43 PM James Dugger  wrote:
>
>> What does Apache error_log and access_log say
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 1:37 PM  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> chown -R www-data:www-data did not fix the problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2019-12-30 15:50, James Dugger wrote:
>>>
>>> Try setting chown -R www-data:www-data on the document root
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 12:48 PM Stephen Partington 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This might help.
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-install
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 3:41 PM  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been trying to locate a command that will tell me which version
>>>>> of the WSL I am running.  The best answer I read was the WSL is tied to 
>>>>> the
>>>>> Windows updates which I get regularly.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a vhost in /etc/apache2/sites-available/myframework.dev.conf
>>>>> with the following excerpt
>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> DocumentRoot /var/www/html/myframework.dev/public_html
>>>>> ServerName www.myframework.dev
>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> I enabled myframework.dev.conf and restarted apache...
>>>>>
>>>>> I edited /etc/hosts and added the following 2 lines :
>>>>>
>>>>> 127.0.0.1   www.myframework.dev
>>>>>
>>>>> 127.0.0.1   myframework.dev <http://www.myframework.dev>
>>>>>
>>>>> When I enter the url www.myframework.dev into my browser, I get a
>>>>> message:
>>>>> This site can't be reached
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I set the file permissions : chmod 755 -R html/ and ownership : chown
>>>>> -R myuser:myuser html
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure it much be something simple
>>>>>
>>>>> Note : If I go to localhost in the browser I see a page located
>>>>> at /var/www/html/index.php
>>>>>
>>>>> Any help is much appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2019-12-19 02:07, James Dugger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you on the latest version of Windows 10 with WSL2? If not there
>>>>> are huge differences.  Prior to WSL2 and the latest Windows 10 developer
>>>>> mode, the WSL sent linux system calls to an emulator that the Windows NT
>>>>> kernel could understand.  However with the advent of the latest Windows 10
>>>>> updates and WSL2 (June 2019) Microsoft installs a full linux kernel with
>>>>> the WSL2 distribution you chose.  I think the latest for Ubuntu now is
>>>>> 18.04 on the Microsoft Store.  When launched for projects saved and 
>>>>> running
>>>>> in the WSL Visual Studio Code now knows the project is a Linux project 
>>>>> open
>>>>> with the Linux binaries enabled.  You can see this when the bottom left
>>>>> screen lights up in the highlighted text color and indicates WSL.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux && Visual Studio Code

Ok,  

I failed to edit the Windows hosts file.  I edited the Linux hosts file.
 So I finally realized I needed to edit the Windows hosts file that
is done.   

Still unable to pull up the site.  Then I recalled the issue I had
sometime ago Chrome does not like this configuration for some
reason.  

I am able to view the site in FireFox but not in Chrome. 

Not sure why... would like to understand why there is this problem. 

Anyone have any thoughts? 

I am running Win 10 Pro with the Windows Subsystem for Linux.  I'm
running Ubuntu 16.04LTS with a LAMP configuration. 

I've set the Windows Hosts file to 127.0.0.1 for each of the vhost on
the WSL. 

I can enter the IP in Chrome and see the site, however when I enter
something like MyFramework.dev in the browser URL I get  

THIS SITE CAN’T BE REACHED

However I can visit the dev site just fine in FireFox. 

Any thoughts? 

Thanks!! 

On 2019-12-30 16:46, James Dugger wrote:

> What type of site.  If WordPress You may need to set AllowOveride directive 
> in the  section 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 1:43 PM James Dugger  wrote: 
> What does Apache error_log and access_log say 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 1:37 PM  wrote: 
> 
> chown -R www-data:www-data did not fix the problem.  
> 
> On 2019-12-30 15:50, James Dugger wrote: 
> Try setting chown -R www-data:www-data on the document root 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 12:48 PM Stephen Partington  
> wrote: 
> This might help. 
> 
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-install 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 3:41 PM  wrote: 
> 
> I've been trying to locate a command that will tell me which version of the 
> WSL I am running.  The best answer I read was the WSL is tied to the Windows 
> updates which I get regularly.   
> 
> I have a vhost in /etc/apache2/sites-available/myframework.dev.conf with the 
> following excerpt 
> 
> ... 
> 
> DocumentRoot /var/www/html/myframework.dev/public_html [1]
> ServerName www.myframework.dev [2] 
> 
> ... 
> 
> I enabled myframework.dev.conf and restarted apache... 
> 
> I edited /etc/hosts and added the following 2 lines :  
> 
> 127.0.0.1   www.myframework.dev [2] 
> 
> 127.0.0.1   myframework.dev [2] 
> 
> When I enter the url www.myframework.dev [2] into my browser, I get a 
> message: 
> 
> THIS SITE CAN'T BE REACHED
> 
> I set the file permissions : chmod 755 -R html/ and ownership : chown -R 
> myuser:myuser html  
> 
> I'm sure it much be something simple   
> 
> Note : If I go to localhost in the browser I see a page located at 
> /var/www/html/index.php 
> 
> Any help is much appreciated. 
> 
> Keith 
> 
> On 2019-12-19 02:07, James Dugger wrote: 
> 
> Are you on the latest version of Windows 10 with WSL2? If not there are huge 
> differences.  Prior to WSL2 and the latest Windows 10 developer mode, the WSL 
> sent linux system calls to an emulator that the Windows NT kernel could 
> understand.  However with the advent of the latest Windows 10 updates and 
> WSL2 (June 2019) Microsoft installs a full linux kernel with the WSL2 
> distribution you chose.  I think the latest for Ubuntu now is 18.04 on the 
> Microsoft Store.  When launched for projects saved and running in the WSL 
> Visual Studio Code now knows the project is a Linux project open with the 
> Linux binaries enabled.  You can see this when the bottom left screen lights 
> up in the highlighted text color and indicates WSL. 
> 
> I have not noticed a lag in VS Code in on either Windows or Linux based 
> projects (lasts versions) . But my system is a core i7.  Haven't had to 
> reboot either.  
> I am running the latest Windows 10 Version.  with Hyper V shut down and 
> VirtualBox installed as a Hypervisor.  I don't use the native WSL as a native 
> webserver for PHP applications.  I use Vagrant and VirtualBox for building 
> guest machines to run/develop those apps.
> 
> Regarding Apache I assume you are setting up separate document root 
> directories for each site declared in different virtual hosts files or 
> section of code in the main apache conf file  or separate conf files.
> 
> Do you have corresponding settings in the /etc/hosts file that are correctly 
> resolving to your virtual host entries?  
> 
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 5:03 PM  wrote: 
> 
> Hi,  
> 
> AZ Pete mentioned the Windows Powershell and the Visual Studio Code editor.  
> I thought I would branch off of that. 
> 
> I'm not a Python developer. I'm a PHP developer. 
> 
> In the past I have always used an external LAMP server for development.  
> Currently I have an old i3 laptop that was upgraded to an SSD.  Does the job 
> just fine. 
> 
> A month or so ago I thought I would experiment with the Wind

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux && Visual Studio Code

What type of site.  If WordPress You may need to set AllowOveride directive
in the  section

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 1:43 PM James Dugger  wrote:

> What does Apache error_log and access_log say
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 1:37 PM  wrote:
>
>>
>> chown -R www-data:www-data did not fix the problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2019-12-30 15:50, James Dugger wrote:
>>
>> Try setting chown -R www-data:www-data on the document root
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 12:48 PM Stephen Partington 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This might help.
>>>
>>> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-install
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 3:41 PM  wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've been trying to locate a command that will tell me which version of
>>>> the WSL I am running.  The best answer I read was the WSL is tied to the
>>>> Windows updates which I get regularly.
>>>>
>>>> I have a vhost in /etc/apache2/sites-available/myframework.dev.conf
>>>> with the following excerpt
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> DocumentRoot /var/www/html/myframework.dev/public_html
>>>> ServerName www.myframework.dev
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> I enabled myframework.dev.conf and restarted apache...
>>>>
>>>> I edited /etc/hosts and added the following 2 lines :
>>>>
>>>> 127.0.0.1   www.myframework.dev
>>>>
>>>> 127.0.0.1   myframework.dev <http://www.myframework.dev>
>>>>
>>>> When I enter the url www.myframework.dev into my browser, I get a
>>>> message:
>>>> This site can't be reached
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I set the file permissions : chmod 755 -R html/ and ownership : chown
>>>> -R myuser:myuser html
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure it much be something simple
>>>>
>>>> Note : If I go to localhost in the browser I see a page located
>>>> at /var/www/html/index.php
>>>>
>>>> Any help is much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2019-12-19 02:07, James Dugger wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Are you on the latest version of Windows 10 with WSL2? If not there are
>>>> huge differences.  Prior to WSL2 and the latest Windows 10 developer mode,
>>>> the WSL sent linux system calls to an emulator that the Windows NT kernel
>>>> could understand.  However with the advent of the latest Windows 10 updates
>>>> and WSL2 (June 2019) Microsoft installs a full linux kernel with the WSL2
>>>> distribution you chose.  I think the latest for Ubuntu now is 18.04 on the
>>>> Microsoft Store.  When launched for projects saved and running in the WSL
>>>> Visual Studio Code now knows the project is a Linux project open with the
>>>> Linux binaries enabled.  You can see this when the bottom left screen
>>>> lights up in the highlighted text color and indicates WSL.
>>>>
>>>> I have not noticed a lag in VS Code in on either Windows or Linux based
>>>> projects (lasts versions) . But my system is a core i7.  Haven't had to
>>>> reboot either.
>>>> I am running the latest Windows 10 Version.  with Hyper V shut down and
>>>> VirtualBox installed as a Hypervisor.  I don't use the native WSL as a
>>>> native webserver for PHP applications.  I use Vagrant and VirtualBox for
>>>> building guest machines to run/develop those apps.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding Apache I assume you are setting up separate document root
>>>> directories for each site declared in different virtual hosts files or
>>>> section of code in the main apache conf file  or separate conf files.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have corresponding settings in the /etc/hosts file that are
>>>> correctly resolving to your virtual host entries?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 5:03 PM  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> AZ Pete mentioned the Windows Powershell and the Visual Studio Code
>>>>> editor.  I thought I would branch off of that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not a Python developer. I'm a PHP developer.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the past I have always used an external LAMP server for
>>>>> development.  Currently I have an old i3 laptop that was upgraded to an
>>>>>

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux && Visual Studio Code

What does Apache error_log and access_log say

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 1:37 PM  wrote:

>
> chown -R www-data:www-data did not fix the problem.
>
>
>
> On 2019-12-30 15:50, James Dugger wrote:
>
> Try setting chown -R www-data:www-data on the document root
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 12:48 PM Stephen Partington 
> wrote:
>
>> This might help.
>>
>> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-install
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 3:41 PM  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I've been trying to locate a command that will tell me which version of
>>> the WSL I am running.  The best answer I read was the WSL is tied to the
>>> Windows updates which I get regularly.
>>>
>>> I have a vhost in /etc/apache2/sites-available/myframework.dev.conf with
>>> the following excerpt
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> DocumentRoot /var/www/html/myframework.dev/public_html
>>> ServerName www.myframework.dev
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> I enabled myframework.dev.conf and restarted apache...
>>>
>>> I edited /etc/hosts and added the following 2 lines :
>>>
>>> 127.0.0.1   www.myframework.dev
>>>
>>> 127.0.0.1   myframework.dev <http://www.myframework.dev>
>>>
>>> When I enter the url www.myframework.dev into my browser, I get a
>>> message:
>>> This site can't be reached
>>>
>>>
>>> I set the file permissions : chmod 755 -R html/ and ownership : chown -R
>>> myuser:myuser html
>>>
>>> I'm sure it much be something simple
>>>
>>> Note : If I go to localhost in the browser I see a page located
>>> at /var/www/html/index.php
>>>
>>> Any help is much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2019-12-19 02:07, James Dugger wrote:
>>>
>>> Are you on the latest version of Windows 10 with WSL2? If not there are
>>> huge differences.  Prior to WSL2 and the latest Windows 10 developer mode,
>>> the WSL sent linux system calls to an emulator that the Windows NT kernel
>>> could understand.  However with the advent of the latest Windows 10 updates
>>> and WSL2 (June 2019) Microsoft installs a full linux kernel with the WSL2
>>> distribution you chose.  I think the latest for Ubuntu now is 18.04 on the
>>> Microsoft Store.  When launched for projects saved and running in the WSL
>>> Visual Studio Code now knows the project is a Linux project open with the
>>> Linux binaries enabled.  You can see this when the bottom left screen
>>> lights up in the highlighted text color and indicates WSL.
>>>
>>> I have not noticed a lag in VS Code in on either Windows or Linux based
>>> projects (lasts versions) . But my system is a core i7.  Haven't had to
>>> reboot either.
>>> I am running the latest Windows 10 Version.  with Hyper V shut down and
>>> VirtualBox installed as a Hypervisor.  I don't use the native WSL as a
>>> native webserver for PHP applications.  I use Vagrant and VirtualBox for
>>> building guest machines to run/develop those apps.
>>>
>>> Regarding Apache I assume you are setting up separate document root
>>> directories for each site declared in different virtual hosts files or
>>> section of code in the main apache conf file  or separate conf files.
>>>
>>> Do you have corresponding settings in the /etc/hosts file that are
>>> correctly resolving to your virtual host entries?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 5:03 PM  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> AZ Pete mentioned the Windows Powershell and the Visual Studio Code
>>>> editor.  I thought I would branch off of that.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not a Python developer. I'm a PHP developer.
>>>>
>>>> In the past I have always used an external LAMP server for
>>>> development.  Currently I have an old i3 laptop that was upgraded to an
>>>> SSD.  Does the job just fine.
>>>>
>>>> A month or so ago I thought I would experiment with the Windows
>>>> Subsystem for Linux by installing Apache, MySql, and PHP.  Worked well,
>>>> with two exceptions.
>>>>
>>>> I used Visual Studio Code to edit the code "remotely".
>>>>
>>>> I had two issues which I do not recall completely.  1) When I would
>>>> bring the computer out of screen

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux && Visual Studio Code

chown -R www-data:www-data did not fix the problem.  

On 2019-12-30 15:50, James Dugger wrote:

> Try setting chown -R www-data:www-data on the document root 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 12:48 PM Stephen Partington  
> wrote: 
> This might help. 
> 
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-install 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 3:41 PM  wrote: 
> 
> I've been trying to locate a command that will tell me which version of the 
> WSL I am running.  The best answer I read was the WSL is tied to the Windows 
> updates which I get regularly.   
> 
> I have a vhost in /etc/apache2/sites-available/myframework.dev.conf with the 
> following excerpt 
> 
> ... 
> 
> DocumentRoot /var/www/html/myframework.dev/public_html [1]
> ServerName www.myframework.dev [2] 
> 
> ... 
> 
> I enabled myframework.dev.conf and restarted apache... 
> 
> I edited /etc/hosts and added the following 2 lines :  
> 
> 127.0.0.1   www.myframework.dev [2] 
> 
> 127.0.0.1   myframework.dev [2] 
> 
> When I enter the url www.myframework.dev [2] into my browser, I get a 
> message: 
> 
> THIS SITE CAN'T BE REACHED
> 
> I set the file permissions : chmod 755 -R html/ and ownership : chown -R 
> myuser:myuser html  
> 
> I'm sure it much be something simple   
> 
> Note : If I go to localhost in the browser I see a page located at 
> /var/www/html/index.php 
> 
> Any help is much appreciated. 
> 
> Keith 
> 
> On 2019-12-19 02:07, James Dugger wrote: 
> 
> Are you on the latest version of Windows 10 with WSL2? If not there are huge 
> differences.  Prior to WSL2 and the latest Windows 10 developer mode, the WSL 
> sent linux system calls to an emulator that the Windows NT kernel could 
> understand.  However with the advent of the latest Windows 10 updates and 
> WSL2 (June 2019) Microsoft installs a full linux kernel with the WSL2 
> distribution you chose.  I think the latest for Ubuntu now is 18.04 on the 
> Microsoft Store.  When launched for projects saved and running in the WSL 
> Visual Studio Code now knows the project is a Linux project open with the 
> Linux binaries enabled.  You can see this when the bottom left screen lights 
> up in the highlighted text color and indicates WSL. 
> 
> I have not noticed a lag in VS Code in on either Windows or Linux based 
> projects (lasts versions) . But my system is a core i7.  Haven't had to 
> reboot either.  
> I am running the latest Windows 10 Version.  with Hyper V shut down and 
> VirtualBox installed as a Hypervisor.  I don't use the native WSL as a native 
> webserver for PHP applications.  I use Vagrant and VirtualBox for building 
> guest machines to run/develop those apps.
> 
> Regarding Apache I assume you are setting up separate document root 
> directories for each site declared in different virtual hosts files or 
> section of code in the main apache conf file  or separate conf files.
> 
> Do you have corresponding settings in the /etc/hosts file that are correctly 
> resolving to your virtual host entries?  
> 
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 5:03 PM  wrote: 
> 
> Hi,  
> 
> AZ Pete mentioned the Windows Powershell and the Visual Studio Code editor.  
> I thought I would branch off of that. 
> 
> I'm not a Python developer. I'm a PHP developer. 
> 
> In the past I have always used an external LAMP server for development.  
> Currently I have an old i3 laptop that was upgraded to an SSD.  Does the job 
> just fine. 
> 
> A month or so ago I thought I would experiment with the Windows Subsystem for 
> Linux by installing Apache, MySql, and PHP.  Worked well, with two 
> exceptions.   
> 
> I used Visual Studio Code to edit the code "remotely". 
> 
> I had two issues which I do not recall completely.  1) When I would bring the 
> computer out of screen saver mode it would run really slow and require a 
> reboot.  I'm guessing  the subsystem went to sleep and was not able to wake 
> up. 2) As I recall I configured a number of vhosts off of /var/www/html/ 
> which worked well except PHP reported the Docroot was the same as the 
> localhost for all three vhosts, even though they were configured with 
> different Docroots. I wonder if there might be a Apache setting that will 
> correct this? 
> 
> The subsystem reports its running Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS. 
> 
> I think it might be time to dig a little deeper.   
> 
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Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux && Visual Studio Code

Ok, looks like I'm not running WSL2. 

On 2019-12-30 15:48, Stephen Partington wrote:

> This might help. 
> 
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-install 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 3:41 PM  wrote: 
> 
> I've been trying to locate a command that will tell me which version of the 
> WSL I am running.  The best answer I read was the WSL is tied to the Windows 
> updates which I get regularly.   
> 
> I have a vhost in /etc/apache2/sites-available/myframework.dev.conf with the 
> following excerpt 
> 
> ... 
> 
> DocumentRoot /var/www/html/myframework.dev/public_html [1]
> ServerName www.myframework.dev [2] 
> 
> ... 
> 
> I enabled myframework.dev.conf and restarted apache... 
> 
> I edited /etc/hosts and added the following 2 lines :  
> 
> 127.0.0.1   www.myframework.dev [2] 
> 
> 127.0.0.1   myframework.dev [2] 
> 
> When I enter the url www.myframework.dev [2] into my browser, I get a 
> message: 
> 
> THIS SITE CAN'T BE REACHED
> 
> I set the file permissions : chmod 755 -R html/ and ownership : chown -R 
> myuser:myuser html  
> 
> I'm sure it much be something simple   
> 
> Note : If I go to localhost in the browser I see a page located at 
> /var/www/html/index.php 
> 
> Any help is much appreciated. 
> 
> Keith 
> 
> On 2019-12-19 02:07, James Dugger wrote: 
> 
> Are you on the latest version of Windows 10 with WSL2? If not there are huge 
> differences.  Prior to WSL2 and the latest Windows 10 developer mode, the WSL 
> sent linux system calls to an emulator that the Windows NT kernel could 
> understand.  However with the advent of the latest Windows 10 updates and 
> WSL2 (June 2019) Microsoft installs a full linux kernel with the WSL2 
> distribution you chose.  I think the latest for Ubuntu now is 18.04 on the 
> Microsoft Store.  When launched for projects saved and running in the WSL 
> Visual Studio Code now knows the project is a Linux project open with the 
> Linux binaries enabled.  You can see this when the bottom left screen lights 
> up in the highlighted text color and indicates WSL. 
> 
> I have not noticed a lag in VS Code in on either Windows or Linux based 
> projects (lasts versions) . But my system is a core i7.  Haven't had to 
> reboot either.  
> I am running the latest Windows 10 Version.  with Hyper V shut down and 
> VirtualBox installed as a Hypervisor.  I don't use the native WSL as a native 
> webserver for PHP applications.  I use Vagrant and VirtualBox for building 
> guest machines to run/develop those apps.
> 
> Regarding Apache I assume you are setting up separate document root 
> directories for each site declared in different virtual hosts files or 
> section of code in the main apache conf file  or separate conf files.
> 
> Do you have corresponding settings in the /etc/hosts file that are correctly 
> resolving to your virtual host entries?  
> 
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 5:03 PM  wrote: 
> 
> Hi,  
> 
> AZ Pete mentioned the Windows Powershell and the Visual Studio Code editor.  
> I thought I would branch off of that. 
> 
> I'm not a Python developer. I'm a PHP developer. 
> 
> In the past I have always used an external LAMP server for development.  
> Currently I have an old i3 laptop that was upgraded to an SSD.  Does the job 
> just fine. 
> 
> A month or so ago I thought I would experiment with the Windows Subsystem for 
> Linux by installing Apache, MySql, and PHP.  Worked well, with two 
> exceptions.   
> 
> I used Visual Studio Code to edit the code "remotely". 
> 
> I had two issues which I do not recall completely.  1) When I would bring the 
> computer out of screen saver mode it would run really slow and require a 
> reboot.  I'm guessing  the subsystem went to sleep and was not able to wake 
> up. 2) As I recall I configured a number of vhosts off of /var/www/html/ 
> which worked well except PHP reported the Docroot was the same as the 
> localhost for all three vhosts, even though they were configured with 
> different Docroots. I wonder if there might be a Apache setting that will 
> correct this? 
> 
> The subsystem reports its running Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS. 
> 
> I think it might be time to dig a little deeper.   
> 
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Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux && Visual Studio Code

Try setting chown -R www-data:www-data on the document root

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 12:48 PM Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> This might help.
>
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-install
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 3:41 PM  wrote:
>
>>
>> I've been trying to locate a command that will tell me which version of
>> the WSL I am running.  The best answer I read was the WSL is tied to the
>> Windows updates which I get regularly.
>>
>> I have a vhost in /etc/apache2/sites-available/myframework.dev.conf with
>> the following excerpt
>>
>> ...
>>
>> DocumentRoot /var/www/html/myframework.dev/public_html
>> ServerName www.myframework.dev
>>
>> ...
>>
>> I enabled myframework.dev.conf and restarted apache...
>>
>> I edited /etc/hosts and added the following 2 lines :
>>
>> 127.0.0.1   www.myframework.dev
>>
>> 127.0.0.1   myframework.dev <http://www.myframework.dev>
>>
>> When I enter the url www.myframework.dev into my browser, I get a
>> message:
>> This site can’t be reached
>>
>>
>> I set the file permissions : chmod 755 -R html/ and ownership : chown -R
>> myuser:myuser html
>>
>> I'm sure it much be something simple
>>
>> Note : If I go to localhost in the browser I see a page located
>> at /var/www/html/index.php
>>
>> Any help is much appreciated.
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>> On 2019-12-19 02:07, James Dugger wrote:
>>
>> Are you on the latest version of Windows 10 with WSL2? If not there are
>> huge differences.  Prior to WSL2 and the latest Windows 10 developer mode,
>> the WSL sent linux system calls to an emulator that the Windows NT kernel
>> could understand.  However with the advent of the latest Windows 10 updates
>> and WSL2 (June 2019) Microsoft installs a full linux kernel with the WSL2
>> distribution you chose.  I think the latest for Ubuntu now is 18.04 on the
>> Microsoft Store.  When launched for projects saved and running in the WSL
>> Visual Studio Code now knows the project is a Linux project open with the
>> Linux binaries enabled.  You can see this when the bottom left screen
>> lights up in the highlighted text color and indicates WSL.
>>
>> I have not noticed a lag in VS Code in on either Windows or Linux based
>> projects (lasts versions) . But my system is a core i7.  Haven't had to
>> reboot either.
>> I am running the latest Windows 10 Version.  with Hyper V shut down and
>> VirtualBox installed as a Hypervisor.  I don't use the native WSL as a
>> native webserver for PHP applications.  I use Vagrant and VirtualBox for
>> building guest machines to run/develop those apps.
>>
>> Regarding Apache I assume you are setting up separate document root
>> directories for each site declared in different virtual hosts files or
>> section of code in the main apache conf file  or separate conf files.
>>
>> Do you have corresponding settings in the /etc/hosts file that are
>> correctly resolving to your virtual host entries?
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 5:03 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> AZ Pete mentioned the Windows Powershell and the Visual Studio Code
>>> editor.  I thought I would branch off of that.
>>>
>>> I'm not a Python developer. I'm a PHP developer.
>>>
>>> In the past I have always used an external LAMP server for development.
>>> Currently I have an old i3 laptop that was upgraded to an SSD.  Does the
>>> job just fine.
>>>
>>> A month or so ago I thought I would experiment with the Windows
>>> Subsystem for Linux by installing Apache, MySql, and PHP.  Worked well,
>>> with two exceptions.
>>>
>>> I used Visual Studio Code to edit the code "remotely".
>>>
>>> I had two issues which I do not recall completely.  1) When I would
>>> bring the computer out of screen saver mode it would run really slow and
>>> require a reboot.  I'm guessing  the subsystem went to sleep and was not
>>> able to wake up. 2) As I recall I configured a number of vhosts off
>>> of /var/www/html/ which worked well except PHP reported the Docroot was the
>>> same as the localhost for all three vhosts, even though they
>>> were configured with different Docroots. I wonder if there might be a
>>> Apache setting that will correct this?
>>>
>>> The subsystem reports its running Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS.
>>>
>>> I think it might be time to dig a little deeper.
>>>
>&

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux && Visual Studio Code

2019-12-30 Thread Stephen Partington

This might help.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-install

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019, 3:41 PM  wrote:

>
> I've been trying to locate a command that will tell me which version of
> the WSL I am running.  The best answer I read was the WSL is tied to the
> Windows updates which I get regularly.
>
> I have a vhost in /etc/apache2/sites-available/myframework.dev.conf with
> the following excerpt
>
> ...
>
> DocumentRoot /var/www/html/myframework.dev/public_html
> ServerName www.myframework.dev
>
> ...
>
> I enabled myframework.dev.conf and restarted apache...
>
> I edited /etc/hosts and added the following 2 lines :
>
> 127.0.0.1   www.myframework.dev
>
> 127.0.0.1   myframework.dev <http://www.myframework.dev>
>
> When I enter the url www.myframework.dev into my browser, I get a message:
> This site can’t be reached
>
>
> I set the file permissions : chmod 755 -R html/ and ownership : chown -R
> myuser:myuser html
>
> I'm sure it much be something simple
>
> Note : If I go to localhost in the browser I see a page located
> at /var/www/html/index.php
>
> Any help is much appreciated.
>
> Keith
>
>
> On 2019-12-19 02:07, James Dugger wrote:
>
> Are you on the latest version of Windows 10 with WSL2? If not there are
> huge differences.  Prior to WSL2 and the latest Windows 10 developer mode,
> the WSL sent linux system calls to an emulator that the Windows NT kernel
> could understand.  However with the advent of the latest Windows 10 updates
> and WSL2 (June 2019) Microsoft installs a full linux kernel with the WSL2
> distribution you chose.  I think the latest for Ubuntu now is 18.04 on the
> Microsoft Store.  When launched for projects saved and running in the WSL
> Visual Studio Code now knows the project is a Linux project open with the
> Linux binaries enabled.  You can see this when the bottom left screen
> lights up in the highlighted text color and indicates WSL.
>
> I have not noticed a lag in VS Code in on either Windows or Linux based
> projects (lasts versions) . But my system is a core i7.  Haven't had to
> reboot either.
> I am running the latest Windows 10 Version.  with Hyper V shut down and
> VirtualBox installed as a Hypervisor.  I don't use the native WSL as a
> native webserver for PHP applications.  I use Vagrant and VirtualBox for
> building guest machines to run/develop those apps.
>
> Regarding Apache I assume you are setting up separate document root
> directories for each site declared in different virtual hosts files or
> section of code in the main apache conf file  or separate conf files.
>
> Do you have corresponding settings in the /etc/hosts file that are
> correctly resolving to your virtual host entries?
>
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 5:03 PM  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> AZ Pete mentioned the Windows Powershell and the Visual Studio Code
>> editor.  I thought I would branch off of that.
>>
>> I'm not a Python developer. I'm a PHP developer.
>>
>> In the past I have always used an external LAMP server for development.
>> Currently I have an old i3 laptop that was upgraded to an SSD.  Does the
>> job just fine.
>>
>> A month or so ago I thought I would experiment with the Windows
>> Subsystem for Linux by installing Apache, MySql, and PHP.  Worked well,
>> with two exceptions.
>>
>> I used Visual Studio Code to edit the code "remotely".
>>
>> I had two issues which I do not recall completely.  1) When I would bring
>> the computer out of screen saver mode it would run really slow and require
>> a reboot.  I'm guessing  the subsystem went to sleep and was not able to wake
>> up. 2) As I recall I configured a number of vhosts off of
>> /var/www/html/ which worked well except PHP reported the Docroot was the
>> same as the localhost for all three vhosts, even though they
>> were configured with different Docroots. I wonder if there might be a
>> Apache setting that will correct this?
>>
>> The subsystem reports its running Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS.
>>
>> I think it might be time to dig a little deeper.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux && Visual Studio Code

I've been trying to locate a command that will tell me which version of
the WSL I am running.  The best answer I read was the WSL is tied to the
Windows updates which I get regularly.   

I have a vhost in /etc/apache2/sites-available/myframework.dev.conf with
the following excerpt 

... 

DocumentRoot /var/www/html/myframework.dev/public_html
ServerName www.myframework.dev 

... 

I enabled myframework.dev.conf and restarted apache... 

I edited /etc/hosts and added the following 2 lines :  

127.0.0.1   www.myframework.dev [2] 

127.0.0.1   myframework.dev [2] 

When I enter the url www.myframework.dev [2] into my browser, I get a
message: 

THIS SITE CAN’T BE REACHED

I set the file permissions : chmod 755 -R html/ and ownership : chown -R
myuser:myuser html  

I'm sure it much be something simple   

Note : If I go to localhost in the browser I see a page located at
/var/www/html/index.php 

Any help is much appreciated. 

Keith 

On 2019-12-19 02:07, James Dugger wrote:

> Are you on the latest version of Windows 10 with WSL2? If not there are huge 
> differences.  Prior to WSL2 and the latest Windows 10 developer mode, the WSL 
> sent linux system calls to an emulator that the Windows NT kernel could 
> understand.  However with the advent of the latest Windows 10 updates and 
> WSL2 (June 2019) Microsoft installs a full linux kernel with the WSL2 
> distribution you chose.  I think the latest for Ubuntu now is 18.04 on the 
> Microsoft Store.  When launched for projects saved and running in the WSL 
> Visual Studio Code now knows the project is a Linux project open with the 
> Linux binaries enabled.  You can see this when the bottom left screen lights 
> up in the highlighted text color and indicates WSL. 
> 
> I have not noticed a lag in VS Code in on either Windows or Linux based 
> projects (lasts versions) . But my system is a core i7.  Haven't had to 
> reboot either.  
> I am running the latest Windows 10 Version.  with Hyper V shut down and 
> VirtualBox installed as a Hypervisor.  I don't use the native WSL as a native 
> webserver for PHP applications.  I use Vagrant and VirtualBox for building 
> guest machines to run/develop those apps.
> 
> Regarding Apache I assume you are setting up separate document root 
> directories for each site declared in different virtual hosts files or 
> section of code in the main apache conf file  or separate conf files.
> 
> Do you have corresponding settings in the /etc/hosts file that are correctly 
> resolving to your virtual host entries?  
> 
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 5:03 PM  wrote: 
> 
>> Hi,  
>> 
>> AZ Pete mentioned the Windows Powershell and the Visual Studio Code editor.  
>> I thought I would branch off of that. 
>> 
>> I'm not a Python developer. I'm a PHP developer. 
>> 
>> In the past I have always used an external LAMP server for development.  
>> Currently I have an old i3 laptop that was upgraded to an SSD.  Does the job 
>> just fine. 
>> 
>> A month or so ago I thought I would experiment with the Windows Subsystem 
>> for Linux by installing Apache, MySql, and PHP.  Worked well, with two 
>> exceptions.   
>> 
>> I used Visual Studio Code to edit the code "remotely". 
>> 
>> I had two issues which I do not recall completely.  1) When I would bring 
>> the computer out of screen saver mode it would run really slow and require a 
>> reboot.  I'm guessing  the subsystem went to sleep and was not able to wake 
>> up. 2) As I recall I configured a number of vhosts off of /var/www/html/ 
>> which worked well except PHP reported the Docroot was the same as the 
>> localhost for all three vhosts, even though they were configured with 
>> different Docroots. I wonder if there might be a Apache setting that will 
>> correct this? 
>> 
>> The subsystem reports its running Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS. 
>> 
>> I think it might be time to dig a little deeper.   
>> 
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Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux && Visual Studio Code

2019-12-19 Thread James Dugger

Are you on the latest version of Windows 10 with WSL2? If not there are
huge differences.  Prior to WSL2 and the latest Windows 10 developer mode,
the WSL sent linux system calls to an emulator that the Windows NT kernel
could understand.  However with the advent of the latest Windows 10 updates
and WSL2 (June 2019) Microsoft installs a full linux kernel with the WSL2
distribution you chose.  I think the latest for Ubuntu now is 18.04 on the
Microsoft Store.  When launched for projects saved and running in the WSL
Visual Studio Code now knows the project is a Linux project open with the
Linux binaries enabled.  You can see this when the bottom left screen
lights up in the highlighted text color and indicates WSL.

I have not noticed a lag in VS Code in on either Windows or Linux based
projects (lasts versions) . But my system is a core i7.  Haven't had to
reboot either.
I am running the latest Windows 10 Version.  with Hyper V shut down and
VirtualBox installed as a Hypervisor.  I don't use the native WSL as a
native webserver for PHP applications.  I use Vagrant and VirtualBox for
building guest machines to run/develop those apps.

Regarding Apache I assume you are setting up separate document root
directories for each site declared in different virtual hosts files or
section of code in the main apache conf file  or separate conf files.

Do you have corresponding settings in the /etc/hosts file that are
correctly resolving to your virtual host entries?

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 5:03 PM  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> AZ Pete mentioned the Windows Powershell and the Visual Studio Code
> editor.  I thought I would branch off of that.
>
> I'm not a Python developer. I'm a PHP developer.
>
> In the past I have always used an external LAMP server for development.
> Currently I have an old i3 laptop that was upgraded to an SSD.  Does the
> job just fine.
>
> A month or so ago I thought I would experiment with the Windows Subsystem
> for Linux by installing Apache, MySql, and PHP.  Worked well, with two
> exceptions.
>
> I used Visual Studio Code to edit the code "remotely".
>
> I had two issues which I do not recall completely.  1) When I would bring
> the computer out of screen saver mode it would run really slow and require
> a reboot.  I'm guessing  the subsystem went to sleep and was not able to wake
> up. 2) As I recall I configured a number of vhosts off of
> /var/www/html/ which worked well except PHP reported the Docroot was the
> same as the localhost for all three vhosts, even though they
> were configured with different Docroots. I wonder if there might be a
> Apache setting that will correct this?
>
> The subsystem reports its running Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS.
>
> I think it might be time to dig a little deeper.
>
>
>
>
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Windows Subsystem for Linux && Visual Studio Code

2019-12-16 Thread techlists

Hi,  

AZ Pete mentioned the Windows Powershell and the Visual Studio Code
editor.  I thought I would branch off of that. 

I'm not a Python developer. I'm a PHP developer. 

In the past I have always used an external LAMP server for development. 
Currently I have an old i3 laptop that was upgraded to an SSD.  Does the
job just fine. 

A month or so ago I thought I would experiment with the Windows
Subsystem for Linux by installing Apache, MySql, and PHP.  Worked well,
with two exceptions.   

I used Visual Studio Code to edit the code "remotely". 

I had two issues which I do not recall completely.  1) When I would
bring the computer out of screen saver mode it would run really slow and
require a reboot.  I'm guessing  the subsystem went to sleep and was not
able to wake up. 2) As I recall I configured a number of vhosts off
of /var/www/html/ which worked well except PHP reported the Docroot was
the same as the localhost for all three vhosts, even though they were
configured with different Docroots. I wonder if there might be a Apache
setting that will correct this? 

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no problem. I reset them. Let's see if it worked


On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 7:53 PM Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> there are 2 places to review and clean up cookies. I would have to go
> hunting to verify where.
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 4:20 PM Michael Butash  wrote:
>
>> Check out Vanilla Cookie Manager extension for chrome, it regularly dumps
>> cookies you don't whitelist, which I like.
>>
>> -mb
>>
>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 4:13 PM Harold Hartley 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m not sure where they are kept now as I haven’t bothered with the
>>> newer chrome browser. They use to be under privacy or security. I don’t
>>> remember.
>>> All I know is when I got rid of the ad cookies on other browsers
>>> recently, the pop up went away. The ad cookies are as good as tracking you
>>> from site to site.
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019, at 16:06, Michael wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 6:36 PM Harold Hartley 
>>> wrote:
>>> > __
>>> > Have you tried deleting the ad cookies.
>>> > no is there a special place for them?
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there are 2 places to review and clean up cookies. I would have to go
hunting to verify where.

On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 4:20 PM Michael Butash  wrote:

> Check out Vanilla Cookie Manager extension for chrome, it regularly dumps
> cookies you don't whitelist, which I like.
>
> -mb
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 4:13 PM Harold Hartley 
> wrote:
>
>> I’m not sure where they are kept now as I haven’t bothered with the newer
>> chrome browser. They use to be under privacy or security. I don’t remember.
>> All I know is when I got rid of the ad cookies on other browsers
>> recently, the pop up went away. The ad cookies are as good as tracking you
>> from site to site.
>>
>> On Wed, May 29, 2019, at 16:06, Michael wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 6:36 PM Harold Hartley 
>> wrote:
>> > __
>> > Have you tried deleting the ad cookies.
>> > no is there a special place for them?
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2019-05-29 Thread Michael Butash

Check out Vanilla Cookie Manager extension for chrome, it regularly dumps
cookies you don't whitelist, which I like.

-mb

On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 4:13 PM Harold Hartley 
wrote:

> I’m not sure where they are kept now as I haven’t bothered with the newer
> chrome browser. They use to be under privacy or security. I don’t remember.
> All I know is when I got rid of the ad cookies on other browsers recently,
> the pop up went away. The ad cookies are as good as tracking you from site
> to site.
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2019, at 16:06, Michael wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 6:36 PM Harold Hartley 
> wrote:
> > __
> > Have you tried deleting the ad cookies.
> > no is there a special place for them?
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2019-05-29 Thread Harold Hartley

I’m not sure where they are kept now as I haven’t bothered with the newer 
chrome browser. They use to be under privacy or security. I don’t remember.
All I know is when I got rid of the ad cookies on other browsers recently, the 
pop up went away. The ad cookies are as good as tracking you from site to site.

On Wed, May 29, 2019, at 16:06, Michael wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 6:36 PM Harold Hartley  wrote:
> > __
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> > no is there a special place for them?
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On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 6:36 PM Harold Hartley 
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> Have you tried deleting the ad cookies.
> no is there a special place for them?
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Re: ot notifications and windows

If there are no popups showing when the browser is 100% closed but they
show when it is active then it is something related to your browser.


On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 2:53 PM Michael  wrote:

> I don't think so
>
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:05 PM Stephen Partington 
> wrote:
>
>> And none of those sites are related to your advertizing popups?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 1:23 PM Michael  wrote:
>>
>>> yes I did. Here is what that page says.
>>> AllowAdd
>>> http://docs.google.com/*
>>> embedded on http://docs.google.com/*
>>> http://drive.google.com/*
>>> embedded on http://drive.google.com/*
>>> https://docs.google.com/*
>>> embedded on https://docs.google.com/*
>>> https://drive.google.com/*
>>> embedded on https://drive.google.com/*
>>> https://read.amazon.com/*
>>> embedded on https://read.amazon.com/*
>>> *://*.wordpress.com/*
>>> embedded on *://*.wordpress.com/*
>>> *://wordpress.com/*
>>> embedded on *://wordpress.com/*
>>> *://mail.google.com/mail*
>>> embedded on *://mail.google.com/mail*
>>> http://www.queondaspanish.com/*
>>> embedded on http://www.queondaspanish.com/*
>>> https://www.bhphotovideo.com:443
>>> https://www.facebook.com:443
>>> https://mail.google.com:443
>>> https://voice.google.com:443
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 4:19 PM Stephen Partington 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 There should not be any certificate related options in
 chrome://settings/content/notifications did you copy and paste that as
 is into the chrome/chromium browser?


 On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 11:35 AM Michael  wrote:

> well that didn't help any but there is a place for, 'certificates'.
> how do I delete those?
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 12:31 PM NA NA  wrote:
>
>> Helpfully this is something that came up recently with a coworker,
>> here's how you can both check to see who Chrome is allowing to sent 
>> alerts
>> and how to remove that permission:
>>
>> - In the address bar put in "chrome://settings" to go directly to the
>> settings page (you can also click the menu button in the upper right 
>> corner
>> and then choose settings)
>>
>> - On the settings page scroll down to the bottom and click on
>> Advanced to show more settings
>>
>> - In the new section that shows up, under Privacy and Security click
>> on Site Settings
>>
>> - In Site Settings click on Notifications, this will show the sites
>> allowed to send notifications as well as any which have been specifically
>> blocked from sending them.
>>
>> - For any of the listed sites click on the three dot button on the
>> right to bring up a context menu with actions you can take. The choose
>> Block, Edit, or Remove. Edit would be if you realized there was a typo in
>> the url, block is basically "No, I'll never, ever want notifications from
>> this site," while Remove simply removes it from the list.
>>
>> - You might also see a button that looks sort of like a jigsaw puzzle
>> piece. That shows up if a browser extension is allowing the notifications
>> to take place. There should be a small triangle button to the left of 
>> that
>> which will take you to the settings page for that extension.
>>
>>
>> On May 29, 2019 at 10:27 AM Stephen Partington 
>> wrote:
>>
>> This sounds like something was given notification access. Does it
>> happen when your browser is up and running? or anytime regardless of the
>> browser?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:49 AM Michael < bmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> How do I turn off notifications? It is very annoying every 5 minutes
>> the computer dings and then some pointless ad appears.
>>
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Re: ot notifications and windows

2019-05-29 Thread Harold Hartley

Have you tried deleting the ad cookies.

On Wed, May 29, 2019, at 14:53, Michael wrote:
> I don't think so
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:05 PM Stephen Partington  
> wrote:
> > And none of those sites are related to your advertizing popups?
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 1:23 PM Michael  wrote:
> >> yes I did. Here is what that page says.
> >> Allow
> 
> >> Add
> >> http://docs.google.com/*
> >> embedded on http://docs.google.com/*
> >> http://drive.google.com/*
> >> embedded on http://drive.google.com/*
> >> https://docs.google.com/*
> >> embedded on https://docs.google.com/*
> >> https://drive.google.com/*
> >> embedded on https://drive.google.com/*
> >> https://read.amazon.com/*
> >> embedded on https://read.amazon.com/*
> >> *://*.wordpress.com/*
> >> embedded on *://*.wordpress.com/*
> >> *://wordpress.com/*
> >> embedded on *://wordpress.com/*
> >> *://mail.google.com/mail*
> >> embedded on *://mail.google.com/mail*
> >> http://www.queondaspanish.com/*
> >> embedded on http://www.queondaspanish.com/*
> >> https://www.bhphotovideo.com:443
> >> https://www.facebook.com:443
> >> https://mail.google.com:443
> >> https://voice.google.com:443
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 4:19 PM Stephen Partington  
> >> wrote:
> >>> There should not be any certificate related options in 
> >>> chrome://settings/content/notifications did you copy and paste that as is 
> >>> into the chrome/chromium browser?
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 11:35 AM Michael  wrote:
>  well that didn't help any but there is a place for, 'certificates'. how 
>  do I delete those?
>  
>  On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 12:31 PM NA NA  wrote:
> > __ 
> > Helpfully this is something that came up recently with a coworker, 
> > here's how you can both check to see who Chrome is allowing to sent 
> > alerts and how to remove that permission:
> 
> > - In the address bar put in "chrome://settings" to go directly to the 
> > settings page (you can also click the menu button in the upper right 
> > corner and then choose settings)
> 
> > - On the settings page scroll down to the bottom and click on Advanced 
> > to show more settings
> 
> > - In the new section that shows up, under Privacy and Security click on 
> > Site Settings
> 
> > - In Site Settings click on Notifications, this will show the sites 
> > allowed to send notifications as well as any which have been 
> > specifically blocked from sending them.
> 
> > - For any of the listed sites click on the three dot button on the 
> > right to bring up a context menu with actions you can take. The choose 
> > Block, Edit, or Remove. Edit would be if you realized there was a typo 
> > in the url, block is basically "No, I'll never, ever want notifications 
> > from this site," while Remove simply removes it from the list.
> 
> > - You might also see a button that looks sort of like a jigsaw puzzle 
> > piece. That shows up if a browser extension is allowing the 
> > notifications to take place. There should be a small triangle button to 
> > the left of that which will take you to the settings page for that 
> > extension.
> 
> > 
> 
> >> On May 29, 2019 at 10:27 AM Stephen Partington  
> >> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> This sounds like something was given notification access. Does it 
> >> happen when your browser is up and running? or anytime regardless of 
> >> the browser?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:49 AM Michael < bmi...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> >>> How do I turn off notifications? It is very annoying every 5 minutes 
> >>> the computer dings and then some pointless ad appears. 
> >>> 
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I don't think so


On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:05 PM Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> And none of those sites are related to your advertizing popups?
>
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 1:23 PM Michael  wrote:
>
>> yes I did. Here is what that page says.
>> AllowAdd
>> http://docs.google.com/*
>> embedded on http://docs.google.com/*
>> http://drive.google.com/*
>> embedded on http://drive.google.com/*
>> https://docs.google.com/*
>> embedded on https://docs.google.com/*
>> https://drive.google.com/*
>> embedded on https://drive.google.com/*
>> https://read.amazon.com/*
>> embedded on https://read.amazon.com/*
>> *://*.wordpress.com/*
>> embedded on *://*.wordpress.com/*
>> *://wordpress.com/*
>> embedded on *://wordpress.com/*
>> *://mail.google.com/mail*
>> embedded on *://mail.google.com/mail*
>> http://www.queondaspanish.com/*
>> embedded on http://www.queondaspanish.com/*
>> https://www.bhphotovideo.com:443
>> https://www.facebook.com:443
>> https://mail.google.com:443
>> https://voice.google.com:443
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 4:19 PM Stephen Partington 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There should not be any certificate related options in
>>> chrome://settings/content/notifications did you copy and paste that as
>>> is into the chrome/chromium browser?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 11:35 AM Michael  wrote:
>>>
 well that didn't help any but there is a place for, 'certificates'. how
 do I delete those?

 On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 12:31 PM NA NA  wrote:

> Helpfully this is something that came up recently with a coworker,
> here's how you can both check to see who Chrome is allowing to sent alerts
> and how to remove that permission:
>
> - In the address bar put in "chrome://settings" to go directly to the
> settings page (you can also click the menu button in the upper right 
> corner
> and then choose settings)
>
> - On the settings page scroll down to the bottom and click on Advanced
> to show more settings
>
> - In the new section that shows up, under Privacy and Security click
> on Site Settings
>
> - In Site Settings click on Notifications, this will show the sites
> allowed to send notifications as well as any which have been specifically
> blocked from sending them.
>
> - For any of the listed sites click on the three dot button on the
> right to bring up a context menu with actions you can take. The choose
> Block, Edit, or Remove. Edit would be if you realized there was a typo in
> the url, block is basically "No, I'll never, ever want notifications from
> this site," while Remove simply removes it from the list.
>
> - You might also see a button that looks sort of like a jigsaw puzzle
> piece. That shows up if a browser extension is allowing the notifications
> to take place. There should be a small triangle button to the left of that
> which will take you to the settings page for that extension.
>
>
> On May 29, 2019 at 10:27 AM Stephen Partington 
> wrote:
>
> This sounds like something was given notification access. Does it
> happen when your browser is up and running? or anytime regardless of the
> browser?
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:49 AM Michael < bmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> How do I turn off notifications? It is very annoying every 5 minutes
> the computer dings and then some pointless ad appears.
>
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Re: ot notifications and windows

And none of those sites are related to your advertizing popups?


On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 1:23 PM Michael  wrote:

> yes I did. Here is what that page says.
> AllowAdd
> http://docs.google.com/*
> embedded on http://docs.google.com/*
> http://drive.google.com/*
> embedded on http://drive.google.com/*
> https://docs.google.com/*
> embedded on https://docs.google.com/*
> https://drive.google.com/*
> embedded on https://drive.google.com/*
> https://read.amazon.com/*
> embedded on https://read.amazon.com/*
> *://*.wordpress.com/*
> embedded on *://*.wordpress.com/*
> *://wordpress.com/*
> embedded on *://wordpress.com/*
> *://mail.google.com/mail*
> embedded on *://mail.google.com/mail*
> http://www.queondaspanish.com/*
> embedded on http://www.queondaspanish.com/*
> https://www.bhphotovideo.com:443
> https://www.facebook.com:443
> https://mail.google.com:443
> https://voice.google.com:443
>
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 4:19 PM Stephen Partington 
> wrote:
>
>> There should not be any certificate related options in
>> chrome://settings/content/notifications did you copy and paste that as
>> is into the chrome/chromium browser?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 11:35 AM Michael  wrote:
>>
>>> well that didn't help any but there is a place for, 'certificates'. how
>>> do I delete those?
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 12:31 PM NA NA  wrote:
>>>
 Helpfully this is something that came up recently with a coworker,
 here's how you can both check to see who Chrome is allowing to sent alerts
 and how to remove that permission:

 - In the address bar put in "chrome://settings" to go directly to the
 settings page (you can also click the menu button in the upper right corner
 and then choose settings)

 - On the settings page scroll down to the bottom and click on Advanced
 to show more settings

 - In the new section that shows up, under Privacy and Security click on
 Site Settings

 - In Site Settings click on Notifications, this will show the sites
 allowed to send notifications as well as any which have been specifically
 blocked from sending them.

 - For any of the listed sites click on the three dot button on the
 right to bring up a context menu with actions you can take. The choose
 Block, Edit, or Remove. Edit would be if you realized there was a typo in
 the url, block is basically "No, I'll never, ever want notifications from
 this site," while Remove simply removes it from the list.

 - You might also see a button that looks sort of like a jigsaw puzzle
 piece. That shows up if a browser extension is allowing the notifications
 to take place. There should be a small triangle button to the left of that
 which will take you to the settings page for that extension.


 On May 29, 2019 at 10:27 AM Stephen Partington 
 wrote:

 This sounds like something was given notification access. Does it
 happen when your browser is up and running? or anytime regardless of the
 browser?



 On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:49 AM Michael < bmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

 How do I turn off notifications? It is very annoying every 5 minutes
 the computer dings and then some pointless ad appears.

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Re: ot notifications and windows

yes I did. Here is what that page says.
AllowAdd
http://docs.google.com/*
embedded on http://docs.google.com/*
http://drive.google.com/*
embedded on http://drive.google.com/*
https://docs.google.com/*
embedded on https://docs.google.com/*
https://drive.google.com/*
embedded on https://drive.google.com/*
https://read.amazon.com/*
embedded on https://read.amazon.com/*
*://*.wordpress.com/*
embedded on *://*.wordpress.com/*
*://wordpress.com/*
embedded on *://wordpress.com/*
*://mail.google.com/mail*
embedded on *://mail.google.com/mail*
http://www.queondaspanish.com/*
embedded on http://www.queondaspanish.com/*
https://www.bhphotovideo.com:443
https://www.facebook.com:443
https://mail.google.com:443
https://voice.google.com:443


On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 4:19 PM Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> There should not be any certificate related options in
> chrome://settings/content/notifications did you copy and paste that as is
> into the chrome/chromium browser?
>
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 11:35 AM Michael  wrote:
>
>> well that didn't help any but there is a place for, 'certificates'. how
>> do I delete those?
>>
>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 12:31 PM NA NA  wrote:
>>
>>> Helpfully this is something that came up recently with a coworker,
>>> here's how you can both check to see who Chrome is allowing to sent alerts
>>> and how to remove that permission:
>>>
>>> - In the address bar put in "chrome://settings" to go directly to the
>>> settings page (you can also click the menu button in the upper right corner
>>> and then choose settings)
>>>
>>> - On the settings page scroll down to the bottom and click on Advanced
>>> to show more settings
>>>
>>> - In the new section that shows up, under Privacy and Security click on
>>> Site Settings
>>>
>>> - In Site Settings click on Notifications, this will show the sites
>>> allowed to send notifications as well as any which have been specifically
>>> blocked from sending them.
>>>
>>> - For any of the listed sites click on the three dot button on the right
>>> to bring up a context menu with actions you can take. The choose Block,
>>> Edit, or Remove. Edit would be if you realized there was a typo in the url,
>>> block is basically "No, I'll never, ever want notifications from this
>>> site," while Remove simply removes it from the list.
>>>
>>> - You might also see a button that looks sort of like a jigsaw puzzle
>>> piece. That shows up if a browser extension is allowing the notifications
>>> to take place. There should be a small triangle button to the left of that
>>> which will take you to the settings page for that extension.
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 29, 2019 at 10:27 AM Stephen Partington 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This sounds like something was given notification access. Does it happen
>>> when your browser is up and running? or anytime regardless of the browser?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:49 AM Michael < bmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> How do I turn off notifications? It is very annoying every 5 minutes the
>>> computer dings and then some pointless ad appears.
>>>
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Re: ot notifications and windows

There should not be any certificate related options in
chrome://settings/content/notifications did you copy and paste that as is
into the chrome/chromium browser?


On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 11:35 AM Michael  wrote:

> well that didn't help any but there is a place for, 'certificates'. how do
> I delete those?
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 12:31 PM NA NA  wrote:
>
>> Helpfully this is something that came up recently with a coworker, here's
>> how you can both check to see who Chrome is allowing to sent alerts and how
>> to remove that permission:
>>
>> - In the address bar put in "chrome://settings" to go directly to the
>> settings page (you can also click the menu button in the upper right corner
>> and then choose settings)
>>
>> - On the settings page scroll down to the bottom and click on Advanced to
>> show more settings
>>
>> - In the new section that shows up, under Privacy and Security click on
>> Site Settings
>>
>> - In Site Settings click on Notifications, this will show the sites
>> allowed to send notifications as well as any which have been specifically
>> blocked from sending them.
>>
>> - For any of the listed sites click on the three dot button on the right
>> to bring up a context menu with actions you can take. The choose Block,
>> Edit, or Remove. Edit would be if you realized there was a typo in the url,
>> block is basically "No, I'll never, ever want notifications from this
>> site," while Remove simply removes it from the list.
>>
>> - You might also see a button that looks sort of like a jigsaw puzzle
>> piece. That shows up if a browser extension is allowing the notifications
>> to take place. There should be a small triangle button to the left of that
>> which will take you to the settings page for that extension.
>>
>>
>> On May 29, 2019 at 10:27 AM Stephen Partington 
>> wrote:
>>
>> This sounds like something was given notification access. Does it happen
>> when your browser is up and running? or anytime regardless of the browser?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:49 AM Michael < bmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> How do I turn off notifications? It is very annoying every 5 minutes the
>> computer dings and then some pointless ad appears.
>>
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Re: ot notifications and windows

well that didn't help any but there is a place for, 'certificates'. how do
I delete those?

On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 12:31 PM NA NA  wrote:

> Helpfully this is something that came up recently with a coworker, here's
> how you can both check to see who Chrome is allowing to sent alerts and how
> to remove that permission:
>
> - In the address bar put in "chrome://settings" to go directly to the
> settings page (you can also click the menu button in the upper right corner
> and then choose settings)
>
> - On the settings page scroll down to the bottom and click on Advanced to
> show more settings
>
> - In the new section that shows up, under Privacy and Security click on
> Site Settings
>
> - In Site Settings click on Notifications, this will show the sites
> allowed to send notifications as well as any which have been specifically
> blocked from sending them.
>
> - For any of the listed sites click on the three dot button on the right
> to bring up a context menu with actions you can take. The choose Block,
> Edit, or Remove. Edit would be if you realized there was a typo in the url,
> block is basically "No, I'll never, ever want notifications from this
> site," while Remove simply removes it from the list.
>
> - You might also see a button that looks sort of like a jigsaw puzzle
> piece. That shows up if a browser extension is allowing the notifications
> to take place. There should be a small triangle button to the left of that
> which will take you to the settings page for that extension.
>
>
> On May 29, 2019 at 10:27 AM Stephen Partington 
> wrote:
>
> This sounds like something was given notification access. Does it happen
> when your browser is up and running? or anytime regardless of the browser?
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:49 AM Michael < bmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> How do I turn off notifications? It is very annoying every 5 minutes the
> computer dings and then some pointless ad appears.
>
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Re: ot notifications and windows

2019-05-29 Thread NA NA

Helpfully this is something that came up recently with a coworker, here's how 
you can both check to see who Chrome is allowing to sent alerts and how to 
remove that permission:

- In the address bar put in "chrome://settings" to go directly to the settings 
page (you can also click the menu button in the upper right corner and then 
choose settings)

- On the settings page scroll down to the bottom and click on Advanced to show 
more settings

- In the new section that shows up, under Privacy and Security click on Site 
Settings

- In Site Settings click on Notifications, this will show the sites allowed to 
send notifications as well as any which have been specifically blocked from 
sending them.

- For any of the listed sites click on the three dot button on the right to 
bring up a context menu with actions you can take. The choose Block, Edit, or 
Remove. Edit would be if you realized there was a typo in the url, block is 
basically "No, I'll never, ever want notifications from this site," while 
Remove simply removes it from the list.

- You might also see a button that looks sort of like a jigsaw puzzle piece. 
That shows up if a browser extension is allowing the notifications to take 
place. There should be a small triangle button to the left of that which will 
take you to the settings page for that extension.


> On May 29, 2019 at 10:27 AM Stephen Partington  wrote:
> 
> This sounds like something was given notification access. Does it happen 
> when your browser is up and running? or anytime regardless of the browser?
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:49 AM Michael < bmi...@gmail.com 
> mailto:bmi...@gmail.com > wrote:
> 
> > > How do I turn off notifications? It is very annoying 
> every 5 minutes the computer dings and then some pointless ad appears.
> > 
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Re: ot notifications and windows

This may be of interest then

chrome://settings/content/notifications

this is the settings area in chrome where your site content and
notifications settings are managed.

On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 8:14 AM Michael  wrote:

> it does have to do with the browser
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 10:56 AM Stephen Partington 
> wrote:
>
>> Try closing chrome and waiting. in win 10 notifications can be sent to
>> system notification.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 7:52 AM Michael  wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know. I always have chrome open but the notifications don't seem
>>> to have anything to do qwith chrome
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 10:28 AM Stephen Partington <
>>> cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 This sounds like something was given notification access. Does it
 happen when your browser is up and running? or anytime regardless of the
 browser?



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>
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Re: ot notifications and windows

it does have to do with the browser

On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 10:56 AM Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> Try closing chrome and waiting. in win 10 notifications can be sent to
> system notification.
>
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 7:52 AM Michael  wrote:
>
>> I don't know. I always have chrome open but the notifications don't seem
>> to have anything to do qwith chrome
>>
>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 10:28 AM Stephen Partington 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This sounds like something was given notification access. Does it happen
>>> when your browser is up and running? or anytime regardless of the browser?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:49 AM Michael  wrote:
>>>
 How do I turn off notifications? It is very annoying every 5 minutes
 the computer dings and then some pointless ad appears.

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>>>
>>>
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Re: ot notifications and windows

Try closing chrome and waiting. in win 10 notifications can be sent to
system notification.


On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 7:52 AM Michael  wrote:

> I don't know. I always have chrome open but the notifications don't seem
> to have anything to do qwith chrome
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 10:28 AM Stephen Partington 
> wrote:
>
>> This sounds like something was given notification access. Does it happen
>> when your browser is up and running? or anytime regardless of the browser?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:49 AM Michael  wrote:
>>
>>> How do I turn off notifications? It is very annoying every 5 minutes the
>>> computer dings and then some pointless ad appears.
>>>
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I don't know. I always have chrome open but the notifications don't seem to
have anything to do qwith chrome

On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 10:28 AM Stephen Partington 
wrote:

> This sounds like something was given notification access. Does it happen
> when your browser is up and running? or anytime regardless of the browser?
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 5:49 AM Michael  wrote:
>
>> How do I turn off notifications? It is very annoying every 5 minutes the
>> computer dings and then some pointless ad appears.
>>
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Re: ot notifications and windows

This sounds like something was given notification access. Does it happen
when your browser is up and running? or anytime regardless of the browser?



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>
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