[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: Fishbone, MusicIP (MusicMagic) Mixer, and playlists
Hi Siduhe - thanks for your continuing interest! Here are some answers to your Qs, and some results: I have the music and playlist folders on the same drive (in the PC - not networked or external) that SS and MIP run on. They're in two separate folders - C:\Our Music, and C:\Our Playlists. (I've just had a thought - are SS or MIP twitchy about folder names with spaces in them? Time for another test!) Both folders are in the MIP 'Watch Folders' preferences (no other folders are referenced there). I emptied the playlist folder, as you suggested... Now the experiments: I placed the above paths in the appropriate Music Folder and Playlist Folder settings in SS, and then stopped SS, deleted the Cache, and restarted SS, which did the automatic rescan. Result: No duplicates; but many tracks and whole albums that MIP showed as mixable were not marked (mm) in SS. I then removed the path from the Music Folder setting in SS, leaving it blank. Did a 'Clear and Rescan'. Result: all albums and tracks now correctly displayed in SS (no dulplicates; all mixable). Next, I created and saved a test playlist containing one track, into the empty playlists folder. Did a 'Clear and Rescan'. Result: no duplicates, not even of the single track in the test playlist. Bingo! Well, a bit. Your suggestion for playlists is successful, and I can now go back to Fishbone Tan (Great!) There is still an issue about setting the music folder in SS, which you say works for you and others, and clearly doesn't for me. Wouldn't it be nice to understand why?! But we also need to get a life. Many thanks for all your help - and for converting me to MIP! I hope the record of this bit of troubleshooting will help others. Best wishes -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31518 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: Fishbone, MusicIP (MusicMagic) Mixer, and playlists
Siduhe Thanks for the further research; you're right - the bug report is very similar to what's happening on my system. I'll have a go at the logging procedure you suggest at the weekend. I've removed my playlist folder form MIP Watched Folders as you advise. Many thanks, and best wishes. -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31518 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] MusicIP and adding new music
After much archaeology on the forum archives, I have manged to get MusicIP working with SS/SB. (Thanks for detailed explanations by Siduhe and others in several threads). I'm finding MIP's playlists fascinating! But I'd be grateful for some advice about adding new music. I've set SS to allow MusicIP to manage the music files (by having server basic settings with 'Use MusicMagic' checked and music folder location blank). So when I come to add new music, I assume I put the files into the appropriate directories on the drive, and first ask MusicIP to rescan its library. What next? Do I need to make SS do a rescan? Or will it just update itself from MusicIP automatically? (In the server MusicMagic settings, there's a MusicMagic Reload interval (currently set to 60 sec) that says SlimServer will 'automatically reload your MusicMagic Database again'.) (Sorry if this seems a stupid question, but I'm struggling to understand the relationship between the SS library/cache, the MusicIP library and the file structure and tags of the actual FLAC files on the drive, and how they are all now working together.) -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
Wow! Great! But that sounds suspiciously easy. We are talking about SS and MIP here. So your 'um or something' worries me! Have you actually *seen* this happen? ;-) Best wishes -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
Siduhe Thanks for yet another really helpful bit of advice (I got a lot of help from your posts to this forum about MM/MIP). I'll certainly make the change you suggest to the settings; but its good to know that a 'clear and rescan' is still there as a failsafe. On a point that seemed to come up a lot in the threads I read about the right order for starting MIP and SS - I've done as MeSue suggested in http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23320highlight=slimappend She said... MeSue;109072 Wrote: The only thing special I've had to do is add -slim -slimappend to the command line parameters in my startup shortcut for MusicIP Mixer. It has always worked. Seems to work fine for me - SS service starts automatically; I just start the MIP GUI with these parameters and the programs see each other. (Has some one done some work with SS6.5.1 to improve this issue?) Many thanks, and best wishes. -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
I did think of trying this solution, and I'm glad to hear it works and is straightforward to do. For the time being, I'm going to use the MIP GUI, to get a better idea of what the software does. I haven't yet worked out whether it's possible to set up a mix with the GUI and then pass it to Slim, or whether Slim can only work with MIP from the SS web interface and the SB player. Do you know? (And, BTW, is it possible to (a) delete an ordinary playlist with the remote; (b) delete a playlist that's been marked 'mm' from the web interface (as the 'mm' seems to go where [x] used to be)? I can't for the life of me work out how do to either of these!) Best wishes. -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
snarlydwarf;167047 Wrote: ...I still use a music folder... Snarlydwarf I tried checking 'Use MusicMagic' and having a web interface entry for a music folder too. The library stats showed double values for everything - songs, albums and artists. Removing the pointer to the music files and doing a 'clear and rescan' sorted the numbers out. Have you noticed this problem? -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
Snarlydwarf I've been experimenting with this, and you're right on several counts. If I set SS to use MusicMagic and also set a music folder, the scan takes 40 minutes; if I don't have a music folder set in SS, it takes 17 minutes. If I set only 'use MM', the song count is 3364. If I also set a music folder, the song count is twice that. But I have always used an UNC path to the networked music drive in SS (\\drive-alias\public\musicfolder); whereas MIP only lets you select an assigned drive name (Y:\musicfolder). When I use the same assigned drive name format in SS as in MIP, the song count matches: 3363. And one final idiosyncrasy I've discovered (probably everyone else knew this already!): when I've got SS and MIP agreeing about the number of songs (as per my last paragraph) MIP reports 752 Artists; but the SS library stats on the home page report only 444. (SS agrees with MIP on number of albums and of songs). However, when I browse in SS through, say, All Artists to All Albums to All Songs, SS displays the number of artists on that page as 752. What I think is happening here is that whenever SS is looking at All Songs, it counts how many artist names there are, including all multiple instances (i.e. individual tokens); but whenever it is summarising a higher level (albums; artists) it counts only how many *different* artists there are (i.e. types rather than tokens). MIP only reports tokens. This may be boringly obvious to most people; but it comes as a great relief to my orderly mind to understand the discrepancies between what I had assumed would be counts of the same things. To see the unaccountable discrepancies was an irritating puzzle! Best wishes -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: MusicIP and adding new music
Diana;167058 Wrote: ...I haven't yet worked out whether it's possible to set up a mix with the GUI and then pass it to Slim, or whether Slim can only work with MIP from the SS web interface and the SB player. Do you know? Siduhe I have now! You just press 'SEND TO' in the MIP GUI. Doh! -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31265 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: More AlienBBC problems
kwijibo;166474 Wrote: ...Anyone help? I got this to listen to Radio 4 and I can't access it at the moment...Paul Paul If you're in the UK, you could try tuning slimserver to http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/wm_asx/aod/radio4.asx On the server Home page, got to Tune in URL (last item in the Internet Radio section). Paste the URL into the box and click Tune In; then press Play on your player. (This may not work if you're outside UK - just try it and see.) -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31193 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: Alien BBC poor radio 4 FM performance
DickSpittle;165048 Wrote: ...It all works beautifully... except, for Radio 4 FM listen now, which suffers from annoying clicks and pops and short drop outs. Try tuning SS directly to http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/wm_asx/aod/radio4.asx This is a WMA stream for BBC Radio 4 (FM) which seems to work very well (at least in the UK). Refer to bpa's very helpful posts in http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30387 I'm not sure whether the streams referred to now work outside the UK. (Anyone had any luck?) Best wishes -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30983 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: Alien BBC poor radio 4 FM performance
The BBC URLs in the thread I just cited resolve into mms streams. Squeezenetwork does not accept the http:// URLs, but it does work with the mms streams, which, for Radio 2, Radio 3 and Radio 4 are as follows: BBC Radio 2: mms://wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/radio2/radio2_nb_e1s1 mms://wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/radio2/radio2_nb_e1s2 mms://wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/radio2/radio2_nb_e2s1 mms://wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/radio2/radio2_nb_e2s2 BBC Radio 3: mms://wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/radio3/radio3_nb_e1s1 mms://wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/radio3/radio3_nb_e1s2 mms://wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/radio3/radio3_nb_e2s1 mms://wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/radio3/radio3_nb_e2s2 BBC Radio 4: mms://wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/radio4/radio4_nb_e1s1 mms://wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/radio4/radio4_nb_e1s2 mms://wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/radio4/radio4_nb_e2s1 mms://wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/radio4/radio4_nb_e2s2 Have fun! -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30983 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: Announce: Lazy Search Music Plugin v2.3 Released
I've been ripping a lot of CDs to FLAC, and rescanning the library. After I installed LSv2.3 the rescans seemed not to terminate - the web page persisted in reporting the scan still in progress, even after closing, say IE, and opening SS in Firefox. But Windows Taskmanager showed no activity for scanner.exe or slim.exe, and only system idle use of CPU. Whichever browser I was using would then hang, still saying the rescan was in progress; and then Windows would hang, locking up the machine completely. Only option was to power down the PC. I've now reverted to Lazy Search v2.2 (the 3/10/06 build). Rescan seemed to work fine again just now, with no system crash (though still needed a hard refresh of the web page to get rid of the 'still scanning' message and reveal the stats report about the library contents. I'm using an SB3 with SS 6.5.1 - 10541 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Perl Version: 5.8.8 MSWin32-x86-multi-thread MySQL Version: 5.0.22-community-nt on a Dell Dimension 5150 running Win XP Pro. Music library is on a network drive. Has anyone else experienced this sort of issue; and is there an explanation? BTW, all the time I've been running SS, whatever version, the web interface has never seemed to update automatically to tell me when a rescan has ended - I always have to force a hard refresh of the window. How I'd love an indicator showing rescan progress, or at least a reliable 'Finished' message! Any ideas about how I might fix this? -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29551 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: Announce: Lazy Search Music Plugin v2.3 Released
Diana;154013 Wrote: I've been ripping a lot of CDs to FLAC, and rescanning the library. After I installed LSv2.3 the rescans seemed not to terminate... I've now reverted to Lazy Search v2.2 (the 3/10/06 build). Rescan seemed to work fine again... Stuart Many apologies - I don't think this is a Lazy Search issue, as SS has stalled again while rescanning. I now suspect there's a corrupted file in the library somewhere. I'll take this up in another forum if need be. Apologies again for my mistake. Best wishes -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29551 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: AlienBBC - works but starts to stutter
bpa In the interests of science, I did some further tests: Removed the SB from the network, then, using shared folders on the PC and a laptop (PC cabled to network; laptop wirless to network)... 1. Copied a c. 7 Mb file from PC to laptop. Netstat showed 4912 retransmits 2. Copied the same file back from laptop to PC. Netstat on laptop showed 1 retransmit Should I be worried about the PC network card? -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: AlienBBC - works but starts to stutter
bpa / triode Update: I just put the SB back in its place downstairs (PC router are upstairs). SB picked up the wireless network instantly. But I got odd results with the Network Test plugin. For the first time ever, I could not get 100% above 1000kbps; and even at 1000kbps, there was some fluctuation down to 97%. I tried again a bit later, and got 100% at 2000kbps, with slight fluctuations. Never gone below 100% at 2500 before. I am now seriously suspicious about the router, which may have been getting hotter than usual during my experiments tonight. -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: AlienBBC - works but starts to stutter
bpa;145124 Wrote: ...I suggest 1. Using Softsqueeze or AlienBBC mplayer test to set up a RealAudio session between PC and BBC (i.e. no WIfi). Check TCP stats at start and end. 2. With no other internet traffic to/from PC. Play an audio file on SB and look at TCP stats at the beginning and end of song - this will give TCP stats mainly for the Wifi link. bpa Here are the results: 1. mplayer/RealAudio - 7 resets; no retransmists (in about 5 mins) 2. Audio file on SB - 8 resets; 3891 retransmits (in about 4 mins) Does this tell you anything usesful? I'm beginning to have doubts about my Linksys WAG54G modem/wireless router. SB reports wireless signal strength 80-85% (in the Information section); but the wireless network has stopped several times since I installed the SB (it did stop occasionally before, but it seems to happen more now). And quite often the SB - which I leave plugged in all the time - does not find the wireless network when the PC powers up in the morning until I switch the SB off and on again (sometimes more than once). I've changed the wireless router to channel 11 (it was on 1), which seemed to help a bit. But searches of linksys forums suggest a number of owners are unenthusiastic about the WAG54G's wireless. Have you - or has anyone else - had any experience of problems with Linksys WAG54G? And are there any recommendations for a modem/wireless router powerful and reliable enought for SB (using Win XP Pro)? -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: AlienBBC - works but starts to stutter
bpa;144409 Wrote: The significant ones in terms of quality would be connection resets and packets retransmitted. A connection is reset usually after timeouts and basically unrecoverable error in communications. If a packet is lost due to error, network load etc, then it has to be retransmitted. The Reset and Retransmitted counters should not change frequently. You might do a comparison between listening using a Media player and listening using SB/mplayer. bpa thought I'd update you on my test results.I tried the BBC stream mms://wmlivegeo.bbc.net.uk/wms/radio4/radio4_nb_e2s2 with WinAMP and with SS. In a period of 60sec with WinAMP, resets went from 217 to 219; retransmits didn't change from 503. In a period of 60sec with SB, resets went from 172 to 233; retransmits from 2472 to 5900. I'm not entirely sure what, if anything, to say to my ISP. -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: AlienBBC - works but starts to stutter
bpa;145058 Wrote: Interesting results but to interpret them correctly I need to know: 1. What version of Slimserver are you running ? 2. The SB uses wireless to the router ? 3. The PC uses wireless or wired to the router ? bpa SS = 6.3.1 8468 SB uses wireless to router PC is wired to router -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: AlienBBC - works but starts to stutter
I forgot to say that with 'listen again' streams from AlienBBC Radio4 retransmits are c. 9/sec as compared with 50+/sec with live streams. -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: AlienBBC - works but starts to stutter
bpa Thanks for your helpful reply. As it's a bit late now, I'll try the tests you suggest tomorrow. -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: AlienBBC - works but starts to stutter
bpa Thanks for this. I tried the URLs (using Radio Tune In): the buffer filled up, but the stream did not start (I waited 15 mins at first!). But putting a URL in Firefox starts Media Player, and the stream plays beautifully. And I can play them fine in WinAmp. Any idea why SS/SB won't play them? -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: AlienBBC - works but starts to stutter
bpa You're a star! The last URL works with the built-in windows media turned off. I'm going to leave it running for a while to see how it holds up. Do you have similar URL information for the other BBC channels? Thanks ever so much for all your help with this. -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: AlienBBC - works but starts to stutter
bpa Sadly, the URLs you sent are showing the same phenomena as the AlienBBC ones. The live streams work fine with media players on the PC itself - they play for hours; but mplayer shows buffer depletion with RealPlayer streams; and the wma streams playing through SS/SB also fall over after no more than about 15 mins. If the problem for SS/SB is packet loss due to network congestion, is it a stupid question to wonder why, say, WinAMP on the PC keeps going? I guess (and it is a naive guess) that the problem is something to do with the extra layer of processing by SS and its wireless communication to the SB??? (But if this thread feels as though it's turning into an individual tutorial on radio streaming, rather than an on-topic exchange about 3rd Party Plugins, please feel free to call a halt!) Thanks and best wishes. -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: AlienBBC - works but starts to stutter
bpa;144367 Wrote: ...In your situation, I think you should monitor your network connectons for errors and resets... If you have significant number of errors, talk to your ISP. bpa Thanks for your advice. I'm afraid I really am a novice at this, so I hope it won't try your patience after all the help you've given me if I ask you to advise how I can monitor the network connections for errors and resets. Does Windows log this somewhere; or do I need to use a particular program? Thanks again for all your help. If I discover the kind of network issue you describe, I'll certainly talk to my ISP. Very best wishes. -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: AlienBBC - works but starts to stutter
Thanks. Will do as you suggest. Very best wishes -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: AlienBBC - works but starts to stutter
bpa 'Choppy' covers a few things. First, listening to BBC4FM, there are little pops and clicks in the stream - tiny breaks that clip off a consonant or a syllable in a word; but not enough to interfere seriously with intelligibility. Then there are much rarer breaks of a few seconds, when the stream stops and restarts - this might happen once or twice in half an hour, and then not at all for ages. But eventually, the stream just stops, and does not restart spontaneously. Pressing 'play' restarts the stream, as if from scratch. Such losses of connection happen at unpredictable intervals: 4m35s; 22m04s; 6m44s; 11m46s; 7m12s; 30m17s... The above issues seem to apply only to AlienBBC live streams. 'Listen Again' seems much better. And other internet radio (e.g. ClassicFM-London,UK) seems fine, as does wireless playing of my own MP3 files. After you raised the matter of signal strength, I had a look at the wireless signal in the Player section of 'Information' on the SB. I found that this was very sensitive to position and orientation of the SB (in the conservatory downstairs) and of the wireless modem/router aerial (3m-4m directly above in my office upstairs). Altering these even slightly could change the reported wireless signal strength from around 65% to nearer 90% (so I went for the latter!). I'm very grateful for all the thought and time you have put into this. Perhaps I just need to experiment for a while, and not take up any more of your time. (I may finish up just moving a digital radio into the conservatory!) Very best wishes. -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: AlienBBC - works but starts to stutter
bpa I've done the test as you suggested with mplayer direct, and it performed just as you described, as the buffer gradually depleted. This was with BBC Radio 4 at about midnight (so very off-peak!). As I understand what you said, this is a characteristic of local network servers, and I guess I am therefore stuck with it. So using my digital radio looks like the best bet! Thanks very much for the painstaking diagnostics on this - I'm glad to have a convincing account of the phenomena, even if it's not a fix. Very best wishes. -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: AlienBBC - works but starts to stutter
bpa;143428 Wrote: ...However before doing that _ I would suggest doing a network test and find out what the data rate to your player are as I suspect your choppy BBC may be due to something else. bpa Thanks for your help, and all the time you're spending on helping a newbie! I ran the 'server network health' in SS while playing an AlienBBC steam. (If you had something else in mind by 'network test' I'd be grateful if you could explain a bit more.) The reports all looked good, apart from persistent low buffer fullness (avg 0.24; max 3.9-ish). And player signal strength was: max 88.00; min 66.00; avg 81.48. The stream stopped completely sometimes - but no particular pattern: 30min, 140min, 5min, 10min. Pressing 'play' re-established connection. Does this indicate the sort of network issue you suspected? -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: AlienBBC - works but starts to stutter
Triode;143598 Wrote: Re Network test - Easiest way is to navigate via the player (remote control) interface to Plugins - Network Test. When in this screen find the highest data rate which shows 100% - this is the fastest rate that the server is able to send to the player at. What do you see? Triode Thanks for this. I'm running SS6.3.1, so didn't have the plugin; but after installing it, I ran the test for about 15 mins, at which point the wireless network went down - something that doesn't normally happen (???). But just before it did, the test was showing 3000kbps at avg 99% and 2500kbps at avg 100%. -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: AlienBBC - works but starts to stutter
bpa;143218 Wrote: ... Under Player Settings/Audio - there is the Bit rate Limiting setting which will force streams from the Slimserver not to exceed the limit. bpa Sorry for being thick about this (not very technical, I fear), but are you saying that setting the bit rate limiting to a lower value (e.g. 192 kbps, say) will help make the BBC stream (now being converted to MP3) less choppy? Supposing this works for BBC radio, will it mess up the quality of normal MP3 files being played on the SB? bpa / marthaF Thanks, both, for confirmation of correct directory for lame.exe Best wishes -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
[SlimDevices: Plugins] Re: AlienBBC - works but starts to stutter
A test and possible cure would be to use MP3 instead of FLAC. Make sure lame is installed. Go to Server Setting/Filetype and uncheck RTSP-WAV and RTSP-FLAC and press change. This should only leave RTSP-MP3 as the only RTSP option checked. Now try to listen to BBC. bpa More very helpful advice! I too had this problem, and changing to MP3 has helped. BTW, I installed lame.exe in C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread rather than just ...\server\Bin as the Wiki suggests. Is this OK? -- Diana -- Diana Diana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28257 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/plugins
