Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-21 Thread webjanne


OK, yesterday I downloaded LMS and ran it from my NAS. Configured my
Touch to stream via proxy. Voila, it plays Tidal again!

Thanks guys for your kind help! 

//Janne :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-19 Thread Torfinn


No, no ip address to set. Under Settings/player/audio you can toggle
Direct and Proxied streaming. See screenshots earlier in thread.

I reverted back to direct streaming and it still worked. However later
today the problem started again, but a change to Proxied streaming
solved this. So it seems like your setting on Proxied "sticks" for some
time.

Oh well, I'm super happy again with my setup. Thanks to Michal and all
the rest keeping this product alive!

Sent fra min SM-G960F via Tapatalk





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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-19 Thread webjanne


Torfinn wrote: 
> Thanks for your help! Yes, I tried to switch to proxied streaming and
> now it works! :-) Great!
> But, then I tried to switch back to direct... and it still works! 
> Now I'm really confused, but at least it works. Maybe better put it back
> to proxied streaming anyway, I guess there are now big downside to that
> anyway?
> 
> Regards
> Torfinn

Am I supposed to enter the ip-address of the pc running LMS as the
Proxy?

Thanks,
Janne



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-19 Thread Michael Herger

But, then I tried to switch back to direct... and it still works!
Now I'm really confused, but at least it works. Maybe better put it back
to proxied streaming anyway, I guess there are now big downside to that
anyway?


No big downside except some more processing and bandwidth use on your 
LMS machine. If it was a WLAN only Pi Zero feeding a dozen other 
players, that would be a problem.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-19 Thread Torfinn


mherger wrote: 
> > It worked great earlier. Recently I changed from an Windows server
> > running LMS to Ubuntu 18.04, and after that I got this problem. Not
> sure
> > if it has anything to do with the server update though...
> 
> Can you try to enable proxied streaming for those players in 
> Settings/Player in LMS?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Thanks for your help! Yes, I tried to switch to proxied streaming and
now it works! :-) Great!
But, then I tried to switch back to direct... and it still works! 
Now I'm really confused, but at least it works. Maybe better put it back
to proxied streaming anyway, I guess there are now big downside to that
anyway?

Regards
Torfinn



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-18 Thread Michael Herger

It worked great earlier. Recently I changed from an Windows server
running LMS to Ubuntu 18.04, and after that I got this problem. Not sure
if it has anything to do with the server update though...


Can you try to enable proxied streaming for those players in 
Settings/Player in LMS?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-18 Thread Torfinn

Hi,
I have the same problem: I can brows the Tidal content, but when I try
to play, I get an «connection reset by host» displayed on my SBTouch
after 3=6 seconds.
It worked great earlier. Recently I changed from an Windows server
running LMS to Ubuntu 18.04, and after that I got this problem. Not sure
if it has anything to do with the server update though...

My SB Touch is connected to the LMS server and I play lossy. I live in
Norway.
I updated the LMS version today (7.9.2)


Regards
Torfinn



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-18 Thread webjanne


OK, maybe I have to connect with LMS instead of MSB.. This is what Tidal
says on their site:

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-18 Thread webjanne


I tried to ping MSB.com this morning via Settings/Advanced/Network...
and the ping failed. Thought this must be my problem but then I don't
understand why Deezer works perfectly well with the same configuration.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-18 Thread Michael Herger

OK... BUT how come my old SB Classic is able to play Tidal connecting to
MSB.com?


...and my Touch would, too? Yes, I don't really get it yet. If this is 
an ongoing issue, could you please ping Tidal to see whether there's a 
problem on their end?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-18 Thread webjanne


OK... BUT how come my old SB Classic is able to play Tidal connecting to
MSB.com?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread Michael Herger

With regard to what's changed and by whom, I have no clear idea. Maybe
(speculating) Tidal made a change to their streaming settings requiring
SSL/TLS encryption and the by now rather old SW in the Touch cannot cope
with that? (But pCp and LMS server SW can.)


That might very well be the case: the devices themselves can't do 
SSL/TLS. But LMS can. By proxying through LMS, the latter functions as 
the SSL endpoint, streaming http to the devices. Unfortunately this is 
not possible when streaming through mysb.com directly.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread Dodeth


I posted separately (but don't wish to upset Micheal) that I'm having
problems with Tidal. In my case I log onto Tidal, select a track, and
nothing happens other than a strange 'stuttering' where the track time
jumps between zero and a few seconds, then jumps back to zero again. If
I then log onto another app (such as Radio Paradise) for a few seconds,
then go back to Tidal, it works fine. Very strange.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread webjanne


Ok, thanks. I'll take a closer look on my Touches. Funny though this
problem isn't affecting my SB Classic which also connects to MSB.com and
plays Tidal with no problem at all.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread BosseJ


Zombie wrote: 
> Where do I change that setting?
> I found a choice under each player. Changed it and now Tidal works, but
> behaves strangely. It takes 8-10 secs before each track starts and the
> time goes back 5-6 seconds.
> Someone changed smth somewhere and it didn't get better than before, so
> either it was change for change's sake or for some reason we don't know.

I use a local LMS server on my home network, not the mysqueezebox.com
(although I believe you need to have Tidal enabled and credentials set
there) for streaming.
The setting I was referring to is on the local LMS server web page,
under Settings, tab Player, select player and the select "Sound" (I
think, I have a swedish version that says "Ljud" instead), There is a
setting for Streaming with two possible choices: Direct or Proxied.
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I do not know how you set that if your player is connected to
mysqueezebox.com instead. Somewhere in the settings directly on the
Touch probably.

With regard to what's changed and by whom, I have no clear idea. Maybe
(speculating) Tidal made a change to their streaming settings requiring
SSL/TLS encryption and the by now rather old SW in the Touch cannot cope
with that? (But pCp and LMS server SW can.)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread BosseJ


webjanne wrote: 
> I wanna try that too but how can I enter the proxy address when
> connecting to MSB.com?

If your player is connected to mysqueezebox.com you don't need to set
the proxy address- your player already knows :-)
But then I never use mysqueezebox.com directly, I always use a local LMS
server on my home network and all my players (2 Touch, 1 pCp) connect to
that. So when when I set proxied streaming for a player it uses my local
LMS.
BTW, my second Touch had the same problem so I changed to proxied
streaming for that one too. Worked fine, Tidal music streamed.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread webjanne


BosseJ wrote: 
> Thanks, that put me on the right track.
> I had Direct streaming set for the Touch and when I changed that to
> Proxied - no problem, nice music filled the room.
> 
> (I note that the piCoreplayer (ver 4.0.0) on my RPi 3B has played Tidal
> all along with Direct streaming set.)
> 
> Thank you for keeping this wonderful echo system alive! And thank you
> Logitech for continued funding for the basic infrastructure, appreciated
> :-)
> 
> /Bosse

I wanna try that too but how can I enter the proxy address when
connecting to MSB.com?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread Zombie


BosseJ wrote: 
> Thanks, that put me on the right track.
> I had Direct streaming set for the Touch and when I changed that to
> Proxied - no problem, nice music filled the room.
> /Bosse

Where do I change that setting?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread BosseJ


bpa wrote: 
> BBC main problems is due to an URL change nothing to do with SSL etc. 
> Other BBC problem with Extra is due to people having very old (2011)
> systems - nothing new/changed just people tried to revert to Extra and
> found their system is too old..

Thanks for the clarification! I read those posts badly and
insufficiently I think.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread BosseJ


mherger wrote: 
> >  [18-09-16 21:53:31.6518]
> Slim::Plugin::WiMP::ProtocolHandler::handleDirectError (95) Direct
> stream failed: [403] HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden
> 
> That's odd. I was able to play stuff on my Touch, as well as Radio or 
> Squeezeplay. Both, through LMS as well as mysb.com directly.
> 
> Also I don't understand how this could be a "new player only" problem, 
> as both mp3 (for lossy) as well as flac (lossless) would be well 
> supported by both.
> 
> Where are all of you living?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Thanks, that put me on the right track.
I had Direct streaming set for the Touch and when I changed that to
Proxied - no problem, nice music filled the room.

(I note that the piCoreplayer (ver 4.0.0) on my RPi 3B has played Tidal
all along with Direct streaming set.)

Thank you for keeping this wonderful echo system alive! And thank you
Logitech for continued funding for the basic infrastructure, appreciated
:-)

/Bosse



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread webjanne


Where are all of you living?

-- 

Michael

I live close to Stockholm in Sweden. 
I run a couple of pc's, 3 Bluesound devices + 3 SB's on the same network
(not at the same time though) and all devices except my SBT's run Tidal
OK.
And, to remind you, those SBT's also ran fine until about a week ago.

Thanks,
Janne



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread Michael Herger

BBC main problems is due to an URL change nothing to do with SSL etc.
Other BBC problem with Extra is due to people having very old (2011)
systems - nothing new/changed just people tried to revert to Extra and
found their system is too old..


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread bpa


BosseJ wrote: 
> Maybe it is similar to the BBC plugin woes? The stream suppliers
> have disallowed the use of non-SSL/TLS and SSL2/3 & TLS1 since all these
> are vulnerable to the Heartbleed exploit?

BBC main problems is due to an URL change nothing to do with SSL etc. 
Other BBC problem with Extra is due to people having very old (2011)
systems - nothing new/changed just people tried to revert to Extra and
found their system is too old..



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread Michael Herger

 [18-09-16 21:53:31.6518] 
Slim::Plugin::WiMP::ProtocolHandler::handleDirectError (95) Direct stream 
failed: [403] HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden


That's odd. I was able to play stuff on my Touch, as well as Radio or 
Squeezeplay. Both, through LMS as well as mysb.com directly.


Also I don't understand how this could be a "new player only" problem, 
as both mp3 (for lossy) as well as flac (lossless) would be well 
supported by both.


Where are all of you living?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread BosseJ


BosseJ wrote: 
> So am I.
> 
> I have noticed that Tidal refuses to stream to my Touch, but yesterday
> evening my pCp (ver 4.0.0) on RPi 3B worked, but with some delay (4-6
> seconds?). I have also noticed that my Bluesound streamer (NAD M50)
> plays Tdal okay, but also some delay before the stream starts.
> 
> My Touch says the same as everyone else (I think): "connection reset by
> local host", however I do not know if the local host refers to the Touch
> or to my LMS server (latest nightly, on Ubuntu 18.04.1). Just before the
> message about "connection reset" appears, a text briefly shows on the
> top of the Touch screen: first "Connecting" then "getting stream
> information" (my translation, it actually speaks swedish :-)).
> 
> Perhaps it is capacity or performance problem with tidal's servers?
> Perhaps it could be mitigated by extending som buffer on the Touch - is
> that possible?

To add to my own post ...

I found this in the server log from yesterday (Tidal plugin set to DEBUG
in logging):

Code:

[18-09-16 21:53:31.6518] 
Slim::Plugin::WiMP::ProtocolHandler::handleDirectError (95) Direct stream 
failed: [403] HTTP/1.0 403 Forbidden


(but only one occurrence strangely enough, I played many tracks)

Maybe it is similar to the BBC plugin woes? The stream suppliers
have disallowed the use of non-SSL/TLS and SSL2/3 & TLS1 since all these
are vulnerable to the Heartbleed exploit?

I'll attach my server log.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread BosseJ


webjanne wrote: 
> I'm playing FLAC (lossless)

So am I.

I have noticed that Tidal refuses to stream to my Touch, but yesterday
evening my pCp (ver 4.0.0) on RPi 3B worked, but with some delay (4-6
seconds?). I have also noticed that my Bluesound streamer (NAD M50)
plays Tdal okay, but also some delay before the stream starts.

My Touch says the same as everyone else (I think): "connection reset by
local host", however I do not know if the local host refers to the Touch
or to my LMS server (latest nightly, on Ubuntu 18.04.1). Just before the
message about "connection reset" appears, a text briefly shows on the
top of the Touch screen: first "Connecting" then "getting stream
information" (my translation, it actually speaks swedish :-)).

Perhaps it is capacity or performance problem with tidal's servers?
Perhaps it could be mitigated by extending som buffer on the Touch - is
that possible?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread webjanne


mherger wrote: 
> Are you guys trying to play lossless flac or lossy?

I'm playing FLAC



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread webjanne


Can anyone tell me: who is the local host thet resets my connection? My
SBT or MSB or even "someone else"?

//Janne



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread mherger


Are you guys trying to play lossless flac or lossy?



Michael

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread webjanne


Am I late to the party? Anybody checked their server.log? What LMS 
versions are you using?

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not my SBTs...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread Michael Herger

All have worked well until last week when suddenly Tidal refused to
play. I can get into Tidal, search for music but when I press Play the
playbar starts to move, no sound and after about 7 seconds I get a
message saying something like "connection was reset by local host".


Am I late to the party? Anybody checked their server.log? What LMS 
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread Zombie


I installed Ickstream (had an old account there) and Wimp (old name of
Tidal) works fine. Can't login to Tidal, though.
Even the Tidal PC client can't play songs, but Tidal on my Android TV
plays fine. Weird.
Ickstream refuses to accept my login to Tidal, so I tried removing Wimp
becausse it has the same login.
Tidal still doesn't want to login...no idea why. Reinstalled Wimp and it
works although it also give the reset error, but eventually starts
playing.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread webjanne


Hi there!

I've been using 3 Squeezeboxes for years now, 2 Touch and 1 Classic. I
mainly use them to stream Tidal HiFi.
All have worked well until last week when suddenly Tidal refused to
play. I can get into Tidal, search for music but when I press Play the
playbar starts to move, no sound and after about 7 seconds I get a
message saying something like "connection was reset by local host". Then
I'm moved to the next song in the playlist and the same thing happens
again. I looked into this a little further yesterday and noticed that it
only occurs on my Touch-devices, the Classic can play...
Any ideas how to solve this? If not, I have to switch to Deezer which
seems to work on all 3 boxes.

Thanks,
Janne



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread slartibartfast


Zombie wrote: 
> So, everybody else's Tidal is working fine then?Someone else with the same 
> issue. It would have made more sense if they
posted here.
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=920853

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-17 Thread Zombie


So, everybody else's Tidal is working fine then?



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[SlimDevices: Plugins] Tidal stopped working on LMS + SB Touch

2018-09-14 Thread Zombie


Suddenly Tidal doesn't work from SBT anymore. It shows track but every
track is reset and in jumps to the next track and so on.
Anyone else experienced this? 
Works fine from the Android TV app into my DAC, though, but not from LMS
in the web browser app on the TV. 
Any ideas?



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